#zealot-class
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I haven't gotten lucky with hammers yet. But I haven't been rolling them.
theres a pin with blessings, you just need blaze away on that and replace crit dmg with flak
if you happen to roll blaze naturally, change carapace too
damn must have missed that
sex swarched
am I clinically insane for using this combo
show us the blessings
id swap out sprint eff and all or nothing for flak and shred/decimator
the weapon combo is reasonable but the blessings and what not are insane
Ogryn Said I should ask what this is
a kazoo
To make more noise during sexo?
you should never try to defy me when i'm obviously wrong
this is a losing game for u buddy
i've been in an argument for like 4 years about how many walls a hypothetical room has
is it 6
1 to 10 in insanity rating
it's 1
whats your reasoning
Are you threathing me shouty?
well i guess its actually 4 walls 1 floor and 1 ceiling
they are all connected
why would your room have 1 wall
thats not how walls work
it is still 1 continuous object
the wall isnt just wrapped around
yeah except your wrapping one object with paper
with a wall you have seperate objects
they just become connected
is this what you meant by skill wall
because you put the walls together
the skill stairway to heaven
and they start seperate
you will never win
i will never lose

false
unless your hypothetical room uses different walls than the real world
I refuse to believe you have a Stan level take
i'm the master of summoning pointless arguments out of thin air
i just use my power sparingly
can't remember where I acquired the boltgun I currently use
if i was over the age of 40 i'd be doing a misogynist joke about now
my mind bets that I absentmindedly got it from melk but
wow
a loss for diversity
dont talk to me until ive had my coffee
i dont live in amerikamaland
you know the line
this is a vet weapon
It's from Milk man on my Zealot
My vet is still only level 20 or so.
I sleep for like 5 hours and I wake up to 7 pings here and half of them involve me preaching zealot gospel sometimes with an edit of me as a pastor
And one of them referring to me naked
I finally see zealot's value when a Psyker chased by a chaos spawn for three minutes straight.
ah so you took advantage of that backstab node then
no. I just go head-on with any monstrosities.
it's ok to admit that you hit a butt sometimes
I hope stealth zealot gets changed at some point. It’s so fun to play but so boring to have on your team
refering to most people who play stealth zealot
using shroud for the disengage and not the massive damage bonus
I have literally never run knife Zealot, but this just dropped as a gift of the Emperor and I figure fuck it why not give it a try. Is there anything I should change to make it work properly?
I'm not even using any right-side talent nodes.
change block eff to flak, you have a few choices to replace lacerate
I really like playing it and I think it’s strong but it’s just not enjoyable for the team quite often
Besides, The only monstrosities you want to do backstab is beast of nurgle
My stickerbook for the knife is pretty limited because I never use the thing
you can go riposte
wait no lmao
i would play the crafting rng to try to get riposte
or uncanny strike
then put it on there
it sucks because lacerate is actually dumb and useless
why would you ever not be hitting heads with the "hitting heads" weapon
I guess in theory it works well with Mercy Killer
Hit someone in the body with a quick light and then smack them in the head with an empowered heavy
crit rate so high on zealot that you'd probably just end up doing less damage overall because both hits could have been on weakspots
yeah scourge kind of invalidates lacerate because you can just ramp up with one crit attack on something stronger than a groaner
plus flesh tearer headshots do so much damage
gotta remember ur doing a weakspot crit AND 10 bleed stacks at the same time
it gets you real close to oneshotting maulers and shit
or maybe that's ogryn aura that helps me with that
Dang, there's a knife with Riposte 4 in my psyker's store but I lack the melkbucks for it
idk im not like a numbers guy i play the game entirely based on muscle memory and vibes
did you do your weeklies yet
Not yet, if I grind out for a few hours I should be able to get it before the store rolls over
™️
Stealth for disengage is fine if you really fuck up (which is what the people you're talking about do often) or repositioning to obliterate everything with a flamer
i hate stealth disengage unless im the last alive because 90% of the time it means you just get stuck in 20900000000 poxwalkers
they run past you and you gotta weave through the crowd
or even worse
1 single poxwalker
But ofc it's always best for the damage
yeah it kinda sucks in hordes but ive mastered the horde weave
love how fast the special heavy is on it
i can machine gun damage
The mk6 just is significantly deal with them much faster
until mixed horde then it becomes a whiff machine
unless you pushstab
(actually the best mk6 attack)
if it didn't have the stab it would actually suck poop
i hate the mk3's pushstab
it does damage yeah but it looks fucking dumb that attack would not do that much damage to anything but your wrist 😭
When I'm using the mk6 I find myself missing the consistent stabs
When I'm using the mk3 I find myself missing the vague idea of horde clear as I'm slowly whittling away a tiny group one by one with each light
So true
I felt like every enemy was on my ass in the last area.
This mission is brutal for no reason
I swear the ai are more evil on this map specifically
it was not even the shock troop condition
when i was on HISTG there today, it was like a full shotgun squad spawn every 10 seconds or so in the last phase, like wtf
variant 3 will fix it
One message removed from a suspended account.
is it just me or did they dramatically change how avoiding gunner shots via sprinting works?
This is why I'm self-sufficient
not even at least a krak user?
When they release it in 2038
game designers quit before releasing the variant that will fix this weapon class for real this time
the angle at which sprinting causes you to dodge has been dramatically tightened
that's why you don't buff your team fi you can't handle everything first
maybe? i don't remember seeing a fix for it but the intention was that you can sprint perpindicular from gunners and avoid fire
running directly away makes no sense as to suddenly making all their shots miss
I haven't noticed anything
you basically can't do the cute "i run at the gunner but don't look at him" thing anymore either
🤷
Just slide
go into the psykanarium and try to do the thing
pretty sure the reaper circling still works
you can't anymore
i don't think anyone noticed because no one actually uses that mechanic to dodge bullets
everyone just slides
but the mechanic works fundamentally differently than how it used to
and is much less effective now
idk what you mean tbh record a video
I thought they increased they angle somewhat recently
But you're right I don't notice cuz I'm sliding anyway
After playing the crafting RNG a bit I got Executor, which is at the very least better than Lacerate
the video would just be me running directly away from a reaper and getting shot, which didn't used to happen
remind me that there's a penance about dodging reaper magdumps by sprinting
and it seems barely possible to do so
you're right, it makes more sense this way, and i'm not unhappy about the nerf, i just think it's funny that a fundamental mechanic was changed and as far as i can tell no one noticed cause no one actually used it
a side effect from this change though means that even horizontal sprinting is much less effective
pretty sure any +3 stam curio user can do that as well
because you seem to easily dip out of what the game considers "horizontal"
Keep going for that riposte or uncanny
You will get it
Riposte 4 is sitting in my psyker's melkstore I just need the funny money
Should I get the Tigris Mk II or Mk XV
if you can get enough before reset, absolutely go for it
Riposte precog is a goated combo
The Mark II is stronger IIRC but the Mark XV has easier combos
I'm using the Crusher but it just doesn't feel remotely satisfying
I see
What's the combo for II
Mk 2 is a better generalist and mk15 is easier to use but only excels at single target
Alright, Mk II it is, ty
I personally don't know the combos for the mk2 tho sorry
sorey
The 2 has to combine its lights and heavies for its movesets while the 15 can spam lights for horde clear and heavies for single target. It's not hard to learn, but I sometimes have input lag with melee weapons so I prefer the 15 personally
im the one rare MkXV user
I'm a weirdo though, I've preferred the Mk4 chainaxe to basically every other melee in Zealot's arsenal since the game dropped
The crusher is a combo heavy weapon, but is still effective right out of the gate
It has good damage against basically everything, insane CC to the point that it's probably one of the most safe weapons to use in the game
The crusher's biggest "issue" IIRC is that it only has one good blessing
And despite appearances
It is a finesse weapon
So it deals significantly more damage to the head than you'd expect
Eh.... not as much. Back before Ogryn was THE heavy melee spammer, Paul was a decently strong light spam weapon
So Skull Crusher and Confident Strike were the go-to combo
What if it doesn't matter cause the crusher is good as hell
True
The crusher is pretty good but it'd be nice to have options other than "one single damage blessing and 3 useless Impact blessings that actually actively make the weapon worse"
The impact blessing isn't useless in this case, better stacks for sc
It's the same for Evi
What’s a good anti armour ranged weapon sorry? Boltgun or the revolver mostly?
Is it really? It has a few stinkers, and the dubious honor of having the weakest version of Bloodletter for god knows what reason, but the extra cleave is always welcome and Momentum is good for sustain.
Thinking of going heavy sword+something like that for my first legit build that imma invest in🤣
The Mark 2 revolver with Hand Cannon and either Surgical or Crucian Roulette is much better than the bolter
You mean handcannon and surgical
And are eviscerators rly that hot?😅 I feel like every other zealot I see plays em, with the FOTF build
Crucian isnt a contender
Crucian bad
Since when?
Since I said it 
Since the existence of surgical
A lot of people run it cuz giant chainsword is cool, and they aren't playing with anything else in mind
When will we get a proper deathcult assassin skin for the zealot?
Look at this pathetic strike down damage
I dunno I've had Crucian on my crit Zealot's revolver for so long that I guess I'm just used to it
Evisc has 3 good blessings, 4 if mk2
And yea surgical way better than crucian generally
With the pace I use surgical, I get 2 stacks each shot
I love low level pubs auto kicking for playing the mission lol
Actually, I don't think you can find another weapon that does lower strike down damage than Evi.
is the other Eviscerator the same?
No, Mk2 has big strike down damage
Which is better
20% crit chance on only the last shot
30% crit chance from aiming, 100% if you hold it a bit longer
I kinda feel like stuff like the chain sword or even the devils claw sword or even the heavy sword is less clunky to use and yknow
More general purpose
Even for FOTF builds
But I guess I can't exactly compare like that because Mk XV's strike down is sawing, but the sawing in this game really sucks.
And then you have the rev heavy 
It used be able to immediately stun-lock Crushers at least, now you can't even do that anymore
Honestly the reason why I want to switch off is that it just doesn't feel fun. I've figured out the combo but it isn't satisfying to use for me.
I agree, but I'm not those people lmao
I'm also partial to faster weapons anyway
My name might give away what my favorite weapon is
Best way I can put it is that the Crusher feels bland
Heresy 😭
What are good blessings for the Mk 2
IDK mate, it just isn't satisfying. It wacks things but it lacks a visceral "oomph" and a sense of power.
Like the Thunder Hammers are sadly not good I've realized, but when you manage to whack something for a full powered blast with the Crucis and it ragdolls for several feet doing flips which would make Tony Hawk proud it feels really good
just go for the Rashad axe
Also which blessing is better for the MK 2, Savage Sweep or Momentum, in fact which blessings are overall best for it
I kinda get what you’re saying with unpowered attacks
Not my style tbh, I like CCing
But the powered attack feels very similar in terms of sound and feel
To the thunder hammer powered attack
In terms of sound, yes, but it just doesn't have the same vibe IMO. It's the difference between seeing a Rager do his best impression of an origami art display and him just getting back up or not even being fazed
One feels great and looks funny as hell, the other is like, "oh, ok."
They need to make the Rev attack suppress enemies.
EXACTLY
Then I will say Evi is good
Seeing something that big act like it just got ported into GMod is both hilarious and makes you feel so powerful
Just sucks that the thammers feel like wet noodles for the other 99% of the mission
Using ironhelm mitigates it
mitigates what? compared to the crucis?
The special cleaves and kills
hammers are fine

Just completed a round with the Mk2 and holy shit yeah the Evi feels 900x better than the Crusher, it has that oomph and visceral impact
How's this lookin' just upgraded it all the way
Lmfao get bloodletter'd
Shred + Rampage/Savage Sweep
Okay, I'll try and grab that
No
Alright
Although Invocation has been nerfed
I'm assuming Rampage and Savage are good ones
if you can rev the monstrosities when you are in rampage, it's going to hit like a Thammer.
But enduring faith is still huge
And requires little investment if you're running shred
What’s the BIS for Rashad and the heavy swords? 😅
How do you inspect weapons like this
Deathblow/brutal momentum and headtaker
The former does the same in both just different names
press x
Wow how did I not know
Heavy swords are less blessing reliant but can only get better with them
But a Rashad is make or break depending on whether it has brutal momentum or not
it was never decent until it got buffs
Most gamers don't bother to look at the keyboard configuration.
it was always garbage in damnation outside of just, stunning everything near you
taking a dozen swings to kill a single trapper
After a bunch of plasteel sacrified to the RNG machine, I've got a decent second blessing
now? Pual is good and is actually usuable
ruthless is worse than executor
usable, sure. good? eh....
infact ruthless is just, bad
Even on backstab stealth zealot?
it isn't a sustained buff
yea what are you getting? 25% damage cause your crit adms in stealth are so high?
it doesn't buff bleed
Paul is so good now that you can go back to both strikedowns
it doesn't carry over to other swings
executor is better than that
the reason that uncanny is good is that it's a player buff so you and all your damage has rending for the duration
It’s shit uncanny
Uncanny does the same thing but isn't exclusive to the hit of the backstab
Thank you! Do yall have any like, personal preferences when it comes to the heavy swords? Are they all viable, and like, dependent on whether you personally like one variant over the other ?
Since uncanny is buff on yourself, it applies to outgoing damage including bleed
They're all a moveset preference
I like the mk9 though
like what meaningful BP can ruthless give you
if any?
mauler or crusher i'm not even sure of, as well as bulwark or reaper, but if you are going full backstab stealth, I don't think ruthless will make or break whether you get it or not
By the way, Cole. I made this in honor of you lol
I saw
Why the cowboy hat
Is that cuz I'm Texan or is he mocking me cuz I'm bad at hunt showdown lmao
@north sedge
I'm not sure why Dough wanted the cowboy hat, tbh
Also at least it's not as bad as some of the other things people on discord have made involving me
Cole have you seen the Reddit build
Which one
Yes
Cuz I was talking to him here
Did you explain build bad?
Cole
Leveling my zealot is so boring
Taking HP damage is never a good thing
I wish i waited to level my vet
i'm clicking on this
It’s uhh
despite my horror
Something
Click on my msg link to see me talking to the person who made it
Going down is never a good thing
They are building into martyrs purpose
Without martydom
tank build, no shield of contempt, no good balance'

triple gunner resistance when it's diminishing returns
Hey... they forgot me... :/
500 effective health just means you are going down too much
no toughness on curios at all, at least get 15% from minor perks, there has always been restoring faith HP stacking weirdos
TOUGHNESS DR CHORUS? WHyyy
I belong in that goddamn box as well...
just cause i don't use it and don't like it, there has been people who HP stack+ restoring faith to basically become a small ogryn
Also the worst part is posting low damage number scoreboards to validate your builds
i don't think it's useless, just niche and toughness is just better 9/10
Why wounds wth
Faith's Fortitude LMAOOO whhhyyy
Thats such a point waste
Cuz they're going to be going down a lot cuz they're building into martyrs purpose
Plus the idea is the more wounds = more total health for cdr
Just take marty at that point
They were spouting that 1 hp gave 1% cdr instead of 1% hp giving 1% cdr
and that the tooltip was wrong
I remember that much from the convo
I have never used the talent so I don't know
it bothered me so much
i had to make a "better" version
there you wanna HP stack tank
use this
You did remove 15 toughness from their build, technically speaking >.>
amogus
there
I've not used it myself
Cuz why would you
But I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and test it later
fuck
toughness gives more effective hp
you know what
YEs
i'm not doing it to be meta
i'md doing it cause fuck it was a terrible tank build
You can remove this talent to get it back
DPW here to tell me what i already know
you could
i'm not opneing up the builder again
Believe me I didn't like the build either
but I said "you do you"
If they have more fun with that build and do better, more power to em
That being said I'm a toughness zealot, and not converting away from that ever lol
Even my marty build has 171/172 toughness
bro u need to delete that
I was just telling you what they were spouting lol
I don't use it, nor do I want to use it
Delete what ?
I got the ping but discord don't let me get to the message lol
that build post
Try it dude, it is exactly that
let me help you
The tooltip says it's 1% health
It isn't : )
but in mission i get 1% cd by 1 health lost
Like I said, I was spouting what they were spouting. I am not saying I believed them
no thats not how that works bud
Here, i will show you
I did add that I did not test it, so I don't have any extra info about it
i have tested, how it works dude. its not like i havent played with it before. It doesnt work how you think it does
Oh and add 200s to the ability's base cd
Really drive it home lol
Man the Crusher vs Evi experience today is night and fucking day, the Evi actually feels powerful
Crusher feels good when you aren't bonking a crusher ogryn.
Everything just falls over.
I don't run hp or believe what the person was saying earlier, all I know is I haven't tested it so I don't have experience with it. I will not find a use for it on my toughness builds no matter what, and it's a wasted talent point that I can use elsewhere
Like i just used my ult, took roughly 120 dmg and got it imemdiately back up
I have 375 hp, it should only get me ~20 sec of cd
I honestly found it ultra-underwhelming
Need skullcrusher and hammerblow on it.
It's mainly from a visual standpoint though
It got me ~50 sec of it instead
Like it's got damage, sure, but visual and soundwise it just didn't feel fun
Maybe it's not 1 health = 1%, but it's DEFINITELY not 1% health = 1%CD
Skullcrusher makes for great damage (as it's the only damage blessing for the crusher) and hammerblow lets you knock ragers down mid combo.
Combo or not but it just didn't feel right
Evi feels like I'm actually slashing through people and dishing out damage
Here's a question: Are we sure it isn't 1% of base health = 1% cdr?
we shall see
If that was the case it could actually be worth the point investment.
Unfortunately it's not.
That's actually a good point
Either way, it's inconsistent as hell and you probably shouldn't be spending a point on it.
It seems to work how Kalenne says, however, taking a chunk of hp to get cooldown back is ech. I'd rather crit and get backstabs
base health is 200 on zealot right?
If youre worried about cdr you should take piety.
depends on tree but yeah
It should really be damage taken before damage reduction tbh
Dude, i just did a mission with it, I play all the time with it : I get back my ult CONSTANTLY and i NEVER take more than 100 dmg in one go
The only times i lose a ton of hp are crushers/maulers bonks
so 120/200 would be the amount of cdr you would get if it is 1% of base health
Regardless how it works
Health is a resource you should do everything within your power to avoid spending
And here i lose 100% health sure but that's super rare
This is true. Plan to lose mindset by taking that talent.
We're testing it here in the VC, it does give a bunch of CD back
Oh I agree, but, how far has our testing gone?
Like a bunch
Thank you
Fiknally
someone testing it
I'm at work, but on my lunch break
But it's still bleh imo
instead of repeating the thing they read somewhere
120 health if it was 1% of base health would be 60% cdr
Cuz you still have to spend your health, your most valuable resource
You are still taking a plan to lose talent instead of a plan to win talent.
mmhm
I'm fine with people thinking my build is not for them/bad etc, but i know basic math
And again, if you're worried about cdr, you take piety as your keystone.
or learn how to backstab 😄
Piety is bad when you use the 60 sec CD, i'd rather get 20% from backstabs
That talent would be great if fatshark had reliable backstab hitreg.
Which allows you to have 50% tdr with ease too
I do have the backstab one too
But piety is consistent
I am not saying the talent is worth it by any means, I am just saying that it could be not as terrible as we think it is for health builds specifically
Enjoying the hunt pain! I do not expect anyone to be good immediately though, it's a tough game
It's basically always chunking it down
Yeah, I'm just wondering if it works exactly as the tooltip says
I know, when i'm not using chorus i don't play my HP setup
I am wondering if it means 1% of base health, tbh
It works BECAUSE chorus is a perfect response to "i'm getting dunked on by ennemies rn"
Dough join the convo
We're discussing a build that plays into Martyrs purpose
Mhmm, especially because you're gonna want to take scourge up top as well. Might as well grab the good talents that are past it if you're already investing in it.
But i wouldn't recommend it for the other ults
Again: I do not support taking the talent, I am just stating a potential
Counterargument, don't get dunked on.
It's that easy.
does it work during until death
The ideal is to set up your build, and thus your personal skill, to do everything to prevent that
can i charge like 8 times during until death
I'm sure you have a 100% wr in maelstrom, not everyone does though : Sometimes, things get south
I don't, mainly because teammates are goofballs.
Nah, I'm sure even frog gets shit on
Making your build function only in a bad situation is setting yourself up for not being able to prevent that bad situation
But the advice is the same either way
It's the same advice all of us listen to
Don't get shit on
Another thing is it could be 1% of base health = 1s of cdr, but, I don't think it is that
Sadly no, you have to lose the health for it to proc : But 99% of the time, getting in until death require to lose some health anytway
Yeah I get destroyed just about every other game because I get overwhelmed when my teammates go down.
Mmhm
Could be, but it's clearly a lot more than 1% per 1% total hp
Sounds about right
Said teammates should NOT be queueing for anything above heresy.
troo
are we debating if it’s actually worth anything
actually it is killing them
and not taking 3.2k damage
I mean if you have 186% hp then you can get more value from it, if it is base hp
Indeed. Killing enemies prevents being dunked on 99.99% of the time.
I don't mind it because I can look cool in front of internet strangers by clutching
The best form of CC is killing them
Again: I do NOT support taking the talent, I am just stating a hypothetical
I dont like clutching because half the time I get some idiot screeching in my ear to hurry up.
or alternatively (and yes it’s less effective but) proactively using chorus to deal with certain threats
Yet we won
Like, I'm sorry I'm getting shot to pieces by 27 billion gunners while kiting a plogryn.
I'm gonna be awhile.
I prefer proactively not picking chorus
I use my chorus build exclusively when I feel like turning my brain off.
Martyrdom, chain axe, chorus, be a man.
Where are these people
Typically when I'm clutching people are saying "what in the actual fuck, how"
Honestly 3.2k was kind of a record for me, i usually have ~1k/1.Xk dmg taken
That's a more typical game for me
If only you got queued in my lobbies...
I get squeakers and neckbeards left and right in qp.
"Erm why did you waste your shroudfield on a mutant? That was very inefficient."
Maybe because I don't have infinite dodges!
i usually fuck with my friend by saying “dw he’s number one (class) player in the world” and then he dies like 10-20 seconds after i say it
it’s a curse
and it’s so funny
Genuinely, the nerve of some people enrages me.
Those damage numbers are so low
I have gotten to the point that I have turned off all in game sound and just put a 10hr track of the boss theme on in the background.
Same, this build is my build for when i don't want to tryhard and still get results
I can play meta builds too, i just prefer this one overall
I will NOT hear the patrol of ragers I'm walking up on and still kill them with ease due to how busted mk6 knife is.
Whackamole 40k edition
Martyr's Purpose
1% of Damage taken is converted to Ability Cooldown Reduction.
function: reduce_ability_cooldown_percentage
Reduces the remaining ability cooldown by 1% per health damage taken. Only procs on health damage; does not proc while downed. Procs additionally to Concentration Stimm's cooldown reduction effect of 3s per second.
For example, if Zealot has 55s of Chorus of Spiritual Fortitude's 60s cooldown remaining and takes 80 health damage, then the remaining 55s are reduced by 60x(80x0.01)=48 to 7 seconds. Indirectly interacts with Combat Ability Regeneration from curios: The curio stat reduces the maximum cooldown of the combat ability which then also decreases the flat amount of time reduced by the talent.
Nerves of fucking steel to be staring mutants down like that just poking their heads with a knife.
Oh also, i never got captured lol, even though i took 3k dmg (Or don't remmeber it at least)
me personally i wouldn’t have gotten grabbed by that mutant
Uh huh yeah sure yup totally
taking every single medicae, medstim, and medicate is NOT a good thing lmfao
i mean i DID out damage you…
cole did you run into any mutants that run?
I just took one medicae at every station, but that's it lmao
But like i said, 3k was way over my usual scores
you on rn?
A few
1k damage taken is still a lot
this is how it actually works btw
I never pretended i played well on this one
darn
Not really if you have 500 effective health and a 100hp regen from until death
i only really take 1k plus damage in situations that are going god awfully terribly
all health curios…..
explains a lot
It's the fact that you recieved that much damage to begin with
Not relative to your max hp
you should quit and become a darktide content creator ( totally the correct choice in life)
i have no good drip for zealot
i mean they all fucking suck lmfao
I mean, that's the whole point of my build : Taking dmg and be fine with it
I'm gonna be the new realasianrobot!
pygex is the only good one
I can play builds where i don't take dmg, i playerd martyrdom builds jsut fine
That's called martyrdom
Just this one stirve by taking dmg : That's jsut another approach
let’s play😈
Which is the keystone you didn't take
No, martyrdom your goal is to never take a big blow
You do'nt actually tank with martyrdom, you can't afford a real big mistake
martyrdom is just walk into hordes and don’t die
See talent: bleed for the emperor
Or be me and eat every crusher overhead
martyrdom is extremely tanky wdym
I know the talen, i've played Darktide quite a lot actually
just because
the build so far
yum!
it's not bcause i made a build you don't like that i can't play meta/clean or whatever
for what?
idk
lmfao
stealth flamer probably
people here run off meta builds all the time
I played martyrdom build and barely got hit the entire game
I played crit builds for cdr
Like i've said before: you do you. If it works for you then do it
I played knife stealth, TH stealth
zealot seems fun but idk if ill use him after im done leveling
we aren’t saying “oh you’re not running meta and you’re taking damage you suck” we’re saying “wow that is an absurd amount of damage taken”
No duelist instant death
My tank support build work : Idc if you don't like it, but stop pretending i'm bad because you don't like it
zealot is peak
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9a4fa304-0b88-4cf8-827a-d0435327a8c3/zealot-meta-no-stealth is this build still viable?
bloodletter
i dont know zealot perks
so immediately no
trash
The trees good
The weapons are ehhh
If it says meta and it's on gameslantern
It's probably not meta
I mean I'd take you any day over the vast amount of randos that are beyond hopeless, even if you take 1k damage lol
you want savage sweep with rampage/shred on assault chain swords
Thanks lmao
tree is meh
I pay attention to how you do, more than how much overall damage you take
I do look at the damage taken and I might cringe, but, if you do good then oh well
My history is like 2 loses on 15 games in maelstrom wsith my tank setup
Far left middle weakspot and crit dmg i think on dodge boost
i see
sure i take 1.5k dmg, but we win and it's not even close
ill grab that then
bread
Besides... I've seen 1k damage taken on people who don't have health curios many times...
troo!
on fucking psykers with no health curios...
do you play premades
or pugs
Full randos
You can run a bad build and do pretty well from skill alone
But that doesn't mean you're not running a bad build and could be doing much better with a good one
Sometimes i play with friends but like 1 or 2 misisons in the night over 10
i think you’re just getting lucky with teammates
I told you i played every meta build
wdym its pubs
your damage numbers really are low, and yes you are winning
Never heard it called pugs before
Sure, i've got the 200 auric misisons trophies and got Auric/maelstrom survivorwithout even trying to get them but i'm ofc just lucky
i see people call it that all the time
thought it was pick up groups
Thats for basketball isnt it
either way
idk
thats crazy
frame of me loading in
Dude just dodge
I'm not lucky on team mates lol, I've got the same than yall
:(
A support person can go a long way if they know what they are doing
the crusher wanted to properly greet u
If they don't... then they're like smite psykers
to be fair the ASS penances are not a good indicator of skill
I had this happen once but a voc vet saved me as it was coming down
Low damage dealt
i’ve seen so many people with auric storm survivor fucking suck
Massive damage taken
i don’t have auric storm survivor and i am pretty damn good at the game
Again: They are a support character
Support characters will do less
Yes being the big damage guy isn't the point of a "tank/ support build"
There’s no support in darktide
RIP the 3 runs ruined by being launched off the map
again: support in this game is minimal and usually not noticeable
There’s going damage and there’s dead weight
i am still upset by that
i was
SO CLOSE
Yeah because smite psykers lol
WIHT NO CHEESINGN
wight
I take less damage on duos with 1m damage per player lol
If they can play support right, then I don't care that they do less damage
also “tank” characters aren’t really a thing imo either except for maybe taunt ogryn, a character can be tanky, but can’t really actively draw aggression, a team is gonna have pretty widely spread aggro
u really do hate me….
I'll take a teammate who knows what they are doing over a rando that can do damage that sucks
Vet has that string of toughness nodes for teammates but the build is cooked for actual usability
Any tips for loadouts? Just started my first Zealot character
Ogryn doesn't have death immunity and and an ult that protect the whole team for 5 sec
That rando that can do damage that sucks has been the cause of me trying to solo clutch a ton of times lol
an ult that removes you from the fight and stops you from dealing any damage for 5 seconds as well
the ult can be useful yes
It’s also ultra trash
but a majority of the time it’s better to just stay in the fight
Sure, but your team can deal dmaage and the ennemies can't. Plus you deal dmg with these 5 sec with flames grenades if that's really needed
alternatively, melee them
or shoot them
the only time a chorus is needed from my experience is crusher/bulwark packs, or a shit ton of specials spawning
I'm done since I wanna go to bed since I couldn't sleep earlier... Like i've said: You do you, if you do good then do what you want
I do agree with this. If you aren't an active detriment to the team then it's whatever, you could just probably be doing more
So what when teammates dead whos doing the dmg
Listen, on(t play the build if yo udon't want to idc : But stop trying to find some way to convince me that it's bad, because it's not
I win most games without even getting downed more than once (if i get downed), I think that's more than enough proof for me that it works, at least for me
Yeah you can do more, but, if you aren't a detriment then it might not even be needed
I win 95% of games, I also actually do damage
alt f4 my beloved
for stealth knife which keystone should i go for
Why would the teammate die if they get their toughness back every 15 sec with an extra 100 gold toughness for 10 sec ?
Barrels
I hope they add class specific titles one day
inoxerable judgement
My teamates rarely die, because i'm constantly refilling their toughness up to max +100
thank you
It happens sometimes : But then i can jsut chorus my way through enemies anyway
yee, you should be going down mostly right side, while going to the left side in the middle for duelist and until death + holy revenant
Surprisingly, it's super easy to reach your downed mates when you can pause the game for 5 sec and lock ennemies in place
that’s my shoulder
this is what im at rn
only level 17
go down loner, loner itself is kinda ass but the pathing is huge
ok
Become swole
It’s super easy to play darktide when your spawn rate gives you less than 1 mil combined damage
3m total damage games my beloved
this better?
i still need to get a million damage game
My true solo was 2.7
thanks you
damn
All I did was post my fucking build and y’all went for my throat talking down on it like a bunch of toxic trolls you didn’t have to say anything if u don’t have anything nice to say then don’t say anything but naw y’all wanna be animals like every other troll and thru the safety of the internet you run your mouth and then talk smack about me it’s ridiculous and not fair of anyone to treat some one like that and u have the audacity to say I’m going thru somthing nah you and all the other trolls like you need to get over what your going thru and act right
LMFAO
hi red
i was thinking about that
Have you seen the smyker I made mad?
Is this a copypasta ?
i thought you were being serious for a sec but realized you're red
yes
gyatt
very old one
What?
i forgot about it lmao
||red y r u geh||
11111
the 1 1 1 1 1 build
Id drop good balance over the ult rn untill another lvl and put back into it tbh
youre german
So true
I feel like im missing a lot of context
got it!
and?
some guy posts terrible build, chat says it’s bad, he says that
damn you really got him with that one
Yo'rue*
you know, there is a point, in any discussion when you understand that discussing is pointless
Either because the other party is unable to understand your point, maybe because you are doing a bad job explaining it , or simply because they are in bad faith filled with dumb assumption
I assume this is a mix of the three with this sentence
I read that and understand " Damn ,if smite is removed you'll not be able to play the game at all, because you only use smite everywhere under the sun "
this is stupid 
Incredibly dumb point to make 
I am flabbergasted by the fact that you believe you made a point here
So before leaving this topic I'll gratify you of a simple answer
I will do what I have always done and use something else , because I am not tetered to a build like the metaslave I will assume you are considering that you never mentionned other weapon that voidstrike and probably assume that I use the DS4 sword as pointed out by the 2 shot Crusher (because the idea that I could run any other weapon did not entertain your mind and you never inquired about it )
And that is in the case where smite is unable to CC groups of ennemy , which would make it pointless as heck so an unlikely nerf to happen .
On that end, Good day Sir
, may you enjoy the meta in your auric maelstrom for the day to come
jesus
Chat link plsplspls🥺
damn why is it so long
guy posted...interesting... build. modder info was incorrect about the tooltip, got into an argument about it working, we tested it, it worked, it's still ass though
I told him to dodge
there's the context
ask someone else
i don’t have it
or just search it
n go to old
should i get perfectionist or master crafted
what’s this from
im guessing perfection
is it genuine
for knife i think the 6 second might be better
Yeah
master
I may have told a smyker to dodge
oh ok
And he may have gotten mad
You'll be 1-shotting most threats
got it
Sin of the highest degree
All smykers unbind dodge from principle
unironically the most help ive gotten with any build
Ye, The only thing it'll really effect is boss damage and killing the boss a little slower isn't a big deal, but with more uses of stealth to revive, take objectives, reposition, and having the time to skirt across the entire room to get the bombers that are in a shitty spot, 6s is good
zealot chat is the most helpful imo
Anyway I'm no longer on lunch break
Back to reading zealot chat while running the register (shoot me in the head)
support guy chatted a bit more but i think he left
not the server
just
gave up on us
I must play with him
bring him into a duo
See his dodge count in power di
He's prolly not too fond of us
LMAO
we’re right and that’s all we need to know
So I'm not the only one who sees that and goes "ah that explains it"
lmao
i need to download power DI
When mine is in the hundreds and theirs is single digit
Power DI fucks with my game
it’s better scoreboard right
I can't run it :/
unfortunate
Mine is in the thousands
It's pretty unstable
So you may or may not have issues
if no issues, great, use it
When I actually want to play to win
i wonder what my dodge count is
my dodge count is usually like
double everyone's lmao
I spam that shit
...gets me killed sometimes
Last I checked was when I was mainly running dclaw and not knife
I should re-enable power di
sometimes i dodge just cuz i got a bad feeling and it turns out there’s a silent mauler/crusher
scares the shit out of me
Cuz I haven't turned it back on since sotmg fucking with mods
God bless the broken keyboard and it getting me killed 
what happened
lmao, that reminds me when I was playing RE7 and I was in a looong narrow hallway and halfway through I was like "...I'd put an enemy behind me." and there it was.
My keyboard is old
didn't u wanna get a new one?
u was gonna join the blair gang
is the keyboard rotting like you
I've had the "office keyboard with a broken space bar" setup before
Very fun
My space bar is cooked
Take it out of the oven then idiot
Why would you even think to do that
well u need to at least heat it up for like
conduction
or something
idk funny joke here
Cold hands need warm keys
Whoever left my asocial ass in charge of customer service needs to be flogged
Put us on voice call we'll handle it
just shoot them
I've sent this to a previous manager of mine before
Directly in response to something they texted to me
awrsome
hell
She saw me fake hitting myself with it via the cameras from the office when nothing was going on
recorded posted on twitter
everyones laughing
only recourse now is death
There is a picture on my phone that is just me staring directly at the security camera
Sent from her
It looks like a jojo low quality screenshot
Yeah this is exactly what it looks like
is this one i need once im done with my line?
depends on the weapon
knife
it’s good on slower weapons like thammer
then no
ah ok
@sterile basalt found it was a very very marginal increase in DPS.
I had such a cool philosophy professor
The most amount of slurs in the shortest amount I've time I've heard from a person IRL was from him
did they kidnap an ancient greek to teach there?
so i was right?
No
Just an old guy who has a gremlin sense of humor that he incorporates in his classes
To clarify, the slurs were not what he found funny
But the context and history around that part of his lesson
tldr +melee atk speed is not actually +melee atk speed
on knife it's very small dps increase
main benefit is to make punch > L0 overhead > H2 faster & smoother to execute
This man was banned from giving his lesson that involved this part during his class, so he had to put it to the last day, and make us sign a form that acknowledges that class is no longer in session and we are there for a supplementary optional lesson, and thus not in class
We should train ai bot on all of your messages plus the guide
so what does that mean
is it less time between chains?
pawesome
Meowsome
what d owe think of shock maul melee wepaon?
is gud
whatb lessings?
Atks chain into other other attacks faster but because different attacks chain into other different attacks at different time values, +10% melee atk speed is almost never a flat +10% dps increase
however, faster animations IS safer
Yeah all the reasons attack speed was a super stacked stat in VT2 still apply here
(Getting interrupted at work) When he was given the notice he couldn't host that lesson, he asked for a more specific notice referring to what he wasn't allowed to do
He now proudly frames a notice in his office stating he's "not allowed to host your philosophy lesson on free speech in class"
Sounds like speech is not free at all
This old guy wears a nice suit when teaching community college courses solely to scare the people who think it's gonna be an easy A
Cuz he think that's hilarious
welcome back cole
sounds like a dingus tbh
He's the kinda old guy who has lectures that don't feel like lectures cuz they're too interesting and entertaining
Charisma=/=non-dingus
Kinda like youtube historians
Some of the most entertaining are the absolute fucken worst people on the planet
well
maybe a bit far, but lmao, a lot of them are awful
When he found out about ratemyprofessor he threw a bunch of fake negative reviews on himself cuz he thought it would be funny
Didn't outweigh all of the positive ones by any means tho
Also walked in every morning with one of those gigantic racetrac cups that's like almost a gallon
Filled with mountain dew
Bear in mind that this guy was the spitting image of "hardass mean old professor"
lmfao
Funny enough
He did use the Kennedys as an example when talking about the epicureans

🫡
damn
Bored so I'm scrolling through new on the reddit
"High voltage is great on the shock maul"
Oh thank good a normal person
"for psyker cuz you can smite them for the bonus damage"
hi stan
Reddit trying to formulate a vaguely normal opinion (literally impossible)
What if there was a shock maul blessing that had a 20-50% chance on crit to basically smite the target and 2 others nearby for 3 seconds
That sounds borderline useless on everyone but zealot
And the target cap is hell
I mean the moment you make it 100% and/or more than 3 targets
That blessing would be overpowered
Cuz crit zealot would just fucking lockdown everything with ease
Cole can you call in a bomb threat my place of employment so i can level my zealot even faster
Just light attack spam and disregard everything
Also FotF for force crits to just tell someone to sit down for 3 seconds while you abuse them
Also remember that opportunist exists
Not every blessing has to work for everyone
Or even work at all lmak
I mean
It's a finesse weapon
With absolutely 0 finesse related blessings
