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Also the braced feels legitimately useful on the graia brauto... which is why I feel like it's an outlier to the other brautos...
It's surprising that running 3 stamina curios didn't make me as squishy as I'd have thought
Its actually helpful for when I end up needing to tank a boss
cuz bracing the agripinaa or columnus is pure cancer
I legitimately feel like I am bashing my head willingly against a rock when I brace either of those 2 >.>
Also, do you still remember the old rashad? @royal vortex

That prioritized body hits over headshot hits
yeah
to be a lil controversial theyve overcorrected on head prio for at least a couple of weapons
but i think all of them are on ogryn and they have like 0.05 finesse or smth
I think 0.05 is a little generous for ogryn finesse
More like... 0.0005
or maybe that's just how it feels
I mean it would kinda be weird since they are supposed to not be the most intelligent of beings
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I will take my chances with the wolves, over the non-stop migraine the entire flight
So basically just update that Weapons Sheet
Hmm, I think it changed a little
I don't remember those descriptions
the omnissiah smiles upon me
hah! lame
can we get a mod in here
stan meal
The ingredients on a McDonald's quarter pounder scraped into a napkin
Lookit Mr moneybags moving up un the world
i think it's actually just a bunch of cut onions
positively DROWNING in ketchup and mustard
that or its teeth
stan would only eat those if slathered in a heaping portion of sour cream
Why even bother eith utensils
Fill up a squeezeable water bottle and carry it around with you everywhere
why even pretend to be human when you're holding that
Now every time is meal time
Psh hardly
stanimal
I love breathing the oxygen and walking with my legg
The tree?
your feeding noises
The napkin?
please do not subject the public to stanlike behavior
like a snarfing puppy
You should've seen the taco casserole I... "concocted" as a child. I was definitely feeling weird that day cause I added mustard, ketchup, tar tar sauce, salsa, and ranch dressing iirc
don't you insult tacos lumping them in with that cesspool
just admit you had a total mental break and they'll forgive you
I was a dumb child, what can you expect? lol
That mix was... not that good
okay but do you eat tacos vertically
thought not
No, I have some degree of sanity
The only taco I'm eating "vertically" is a soft shell taco...
which is more of a burito
i have a heavy chainsword that has all stats in the mid to high 70s except for cleave which is 55%, and i have a heavy chainsword that has all stats at 79-80% except for penetration which is 30%. Which one is better?
well chsword and evi are two completely different weapons
i mean eviscerator
but 30% pen is basically a deal breaker, that's all your armor damage out the window
Diced onions with ketchup and mustard? Ive made sandwiches with just those as a child
That's like, a lot of mustard tho
Whenever I see how Stan fucked up your name I think "Barbie", Bandit lol
cleave targets
it has tier 4 savage sweep on it anyway which makes up for the cleave so
That or stan has birds in his bars...
i think barber
not exactly
cleave targets is your base cleave and savage sweep scales off of it
is it mk2 or mk15
that's fine as long as you still got 4 cleave minimum
but you don't want sweep on mk15
you want rampage+ shred or Bloodthirsty
it has a hard cleave damage cap of 4 targets
after 4 targets it stops doing damage
rampage gives you power (tooltip lies) which is stagger, cleave and damage
It’ll still stagger things past 4 but it’s basically an ineffective slap
Whats the best way to farm for weapon blessings on the mk II thunder hammer?
I've been buying weps from armory and then consecrating to get the first blessing and then earning it, should i be consecrating to the second blessing?
check melk and brunts hourly shop
and basically what you are doing, tho if you are chasing t4 thrust specifically i'd only do it on 370 bases or higher, then go all the way to gold
Thrust and slaughterer/headtaker are the thammer blessings
t4 thrust is more important than t4 slaughterer/headtaker
so basically sweep on the mk15 is just unnecessary overkill
You're just slapping the enemies around
if anyone wants to take a crack at this mystery
only perfect strike does "something" for evi 15 but since crit cdr was nerfed i don't think going shred perfect strike is good combo, lets you swing into 4 maulers/4 scab ragers
I told my wife to tell her mom "the biggest asshole in the universe says 'hello'" lol
You can also armor slide shields with it right
@fleet zealot Btw what would you do, Bandit?
i'm jumping out the plane
Damn I should have thought of that xD
I said I was taking my chances with the wolves, over a 10 hour migraine
I am chasing t4 thrust are you saying i should only consecrate 370 base weapons to farm for it?
consecrate rng is weighted based on the base modifier score, 380 is considerably more likely (but not guaranteed) to roll t4s compared to 300
^
Except in brunt's credits store
then it will only roll t1-t3 for the 1st blessing
this only counts for upgrading with crafting
Thank you very much i didn't know that!
Hello bandit and darkpill
yes that's why i try specificy consecrating
stan redemption arc?

It's a doppleganger, we must destroy it!
HE EVEN GOT ICE'S NAME RIGHT?!
> literally you rn
He must be sick

ICE OMG

We're just giving you a hard time lol
This is what I currently have, what should I change to make it better
maniacs to flak, momentum to t4 thrust
That pen is sadge, tho
@fathom valley You know about jumping to hit elites in hordes, right?
Yes I quite enjoy doing that.
any level of thrust would be better than momentum
Momentum is just pure copium
also uhh use ironhelm tbh until thrust 4
at least momentum isn't the biggest of losses on the eviscerator... since you don't have thrust or slaughterer...
There are way better options, but, I'd take it over something like Hammerblow lol
I still is copium, tho...
dont make them have to roll another hammer, that way lies madness
Yeah... rolling thammer is god awful...
yea but ironhelm is more forgiving
especially with the terrible blessing pool

Hi dough how is your afternoon
ironhelm is still a pain in the fucking ass to roll!
it is ok
Just ok?
yea?
There, I got a smaller version of this lol
Look at this, stretch woman (elastic mom)*! @royal vortex
that is obviously stretch woman (elastic mom)
O_O
Btw, is this your spirit animal
keira knightley?
vague reference to stan thinking megan fox was her in my Michael J. Fox captcha
I've heard the name megan fox, but, I don't know what she's from/in
Transformers
what about jum cantorpe
stan will be most disappointed
transformers is the main on e
i think shes in 2 as well i forget
@hushed knoll Stan! Pet da doge!
And yeah... that's a ded bulletkin next to the hunter >.>'
How do we make it better

How man ferret photos do you have saved
manferret
So me dressing up as spider man would make your afternoon better? 
🤔
Stan ^
I mean... that would be entertaining
Also it might put you on a list...
Anyway, did you guys know: 3 is greater than 1?
Just found out, today, watching youtube
Blew My Mind

Nuh uh
Hows it bigger when lil uns call me numba 1?????

Why are you making the sexy face at that spider man...?

yes
What do you think of it ?
I heard the only thing that out damage it
For single target is the thunder hammers
What is so weird it actually
Out damages thunder hammers
On carapace enemies
It just straight up one that's them with thrust rev
Attack
chaxe12 just makes more sense on veteran for me
cool
Dodge distance tho
strong benefits from wepspec side
Not against unyeilding
push attack spam is quite strong against elites if you go for headshots
It doesn't need
Both chaxes have very high cara dmg
Does indignatus crusher share blessings with any other weapon? Like, is it part of a weapon family?
Shame it’s dodge distance is so abysmally dogshit
No
ok
Yeah I been complaining about it that should be 5 dodge weapon
Not 4
Yeah its the big bro of shock mauls

I'm gonna be honest
I think this is more of vet weapon
Unironically xD
I had so much more success with it on vet than my zealot
I run it with kantrael shotgun
Hey! Knife goblin looking to try out axes -- wondering which ones to roll for. Any insights?
Taxe or caxe
I'm honestly not sure what the difference is. Caxe better for armor?
The Rashad is one of the best weapons in the game
Caxe has higher single target
I assume for a "I can do everything" weapon, Caxe is probably the way to go?
Its also an actual bitch to roll
It is my brain off weapon
Sweet. Is there a list of breakpoints I want to reach?
Caxe with bromentum is good at basically everything
Not really
Rashad is the best weapon in the game
It just needs bromentum and headtaker
Like nothing comes close to how strong is rashad
Perfect, thank you.
Its entirely the blessings
If other two axes also had faster heavies they be as op too
And the zealot tree
For the perks, what do I go for? Flak/carapace?
Flak maniac
BM yes but even then there is not a single enemy type rashad doesn't destroy
20% good enough or do I want 25% minimum?
If you are taking purge the unclean
Good enough
Perfect, thanks.
Also I think chainaxe should have same dodge as normal axes
But that's just my opinion
how's the bolt pistol on zealot?
Seems good
It ticks off quite a few things zealot wants in a gun
You need to oneshot Bruisers with light attacks
And its downsides are minimized since your in peoples faces alot
bugged how?
@fallen drum I would wait until it is fixed
Since when
So basically its complicated to explain but the ads moves from centre line where it should settling basically
The ads moves from left to right
When it should be in centre what it means is it got same stability as moving
Honestly never noticed that and ive been playing almost exclusively bistol vet so it must be a small bug
Primary fire
Depends if you using ADS
As much
Ill go into meatgrinder real quick
what're we looking for blessing wise and perk
The bleed one and surgical
bleed? really?
Until it is fixed when I can start using deadly accurate xD
Bleed is sorta just ok
The headshot damage on crit blessing is far better especially if youre rocking surgical
bolt pistol is ass wdym
You will be boiled
It would be okay if it's ADS wasnt bugged !
already deep fried
You will be burnt
It got more ammo than revolver
Blacker than charcoal
I wana give it a shot but i have a godly revolver
Ok are you talking about the weapon sway while ads
Dont think thats a bug
The sway is actually bug
Youre holding up a giant slab of metal with explosives in it
Something that also happens on other weapons???
Also its same as your primary fire as you moving xD
I feel like im missing something
Not like this
You find it yet?
@spare talon
vowelless behavior
??!!??!!
do you have the smiling version as well?
EXHILLIOUS HI
Gotta pump does numbers up 
Well deserved rest
peak









we swiftly lost that game
like immediately after
yea
like i try not to have main character syndrome
but god fucking damn
these guys make it hard









cuz its been proven time and time again, the moment something happens that i have to rely on a teammate for, the match is lost
maybe he was a heretic
also wow what a tunnel vision
It would've taken 2 seconds for him to vault the rail and push the dog off. These are the types of people I always get queued with.
ironically, the song that was playing was this
which plays during a sequence in ghost trick in which someone is less than 1 minute from death
https://youtu.be/NbMzwB6TvN4?si=zNmJ6o4DL7Z1ganQ
First match I attempt playing and it's everybody down, I'm basically already out of ammo in my bolt pistol, and I'm under 1/4 hp with a bunch of ragers around me.
Bruisers laughed at you
Maximum effort.
(I died horribly btw)
Managed to kill off most of the ragers but then fatshark said, "woe, 3 flamers be upon ye."
I was doing a "drink every time someone goes down" challenge and all three of my teammates were running 3 wound and they all went down three times 😭
comfy
I swear flamer have an active camouflage that will entirely cloke themselves to your pub teammates up untill theyre the ones being cooked alive
some people just don't think to prio specials
it's someone else's job or they want their reflexes are that of an eldery paralyzed snail and don't want to juggle weapons
I love the weapon juggle on vet specialist
yea but if they swap to their ranged weapon, they can't possible swap back in time to kill the bruiser or poxwalker in front of them
Oh ye
Even playing with people in this discord I can’t rely on them
I just did a carnival match where we had a plogryn and twenty billion gunners appear at the same time.
My teammates were throwing a fit that "I wouldn't just kill the plogryn already."
All 3 died while I was busy juggling gunners so as to not get turned to swiss cheese.
We still wound up dying in the atrium because I got sniped and dogged at the same time.
peeper
Hey, look. It's a monkey ferret
Which came first the chicken or the egg the sniper or the dog?
Also: Randos are hopeless a lot of the time...
The queen of frog is back!

I am not a king or any kind of monarch ruling class to frogs
they are free beings
YOG
LEts GOOO
my friend is playing a grung/frogman in our saturday dnd sessions
I found this creature and i thought you would like it
had an idea if i ever got to play d&d to try a druid with a special for me giant toad wild shape
i already got sent this earlier
but thanks
in this very chat aswell
Is there a ferret you haven't seen
probably

Whats a sable
Sniper hit me and staggered me into dog pounce. Was out of stamina.
Noway
Frog!

better version
I love frogs
Frogs are one of my favorite animals on the planet.
They just chill and eat bugs.
Yeah, that's what my pfp is.
They're too fat to jump.
But they are excellent at burrowing.
They also scream as their method of defense.
i thought your pfp was a cow with like, photoshopped flag on it
ngl
i just checked and zoomed in
it's a rain frog
Squeaky toy
my life is changed
many frog gifs have lost their lives
I am now frogcast.
I like this name
Worth a buy from melk? Not tried the axe yet, but it seems like a really good roll
Theyre cute as long as they dont jump on me
That is a really good roll, yeah.
They are the most intelligent spider aren't they
yea
just for thrust 4
Also my preferred model of chaxe.
good stats too
You can change the rev it up to slaughterer/headtaker (pick your poison).
Not sure about perks, though.
Mine has cara and unyielding damage on it.
It's believed that jumping spiders are the most intelligent ones, yes.
They are able to communicate, in a roundabout sense, with their handlers.
Like, if you point at something, there's a pretty good chance they'll look at what you're pointing at.
Whether or not there's some form of higher order thinking at work, there, I can't say. I just want to believe they're smart enough to know what I'm telling them.

which weps get dodge out of defences
Is it bricked???
godroll
inject juice
nice on the pen
Slap bloodthirsty on it and kill Nurgle itself
after the 5th shot i would've just gave up and waited till the gunner resynced xd
if you could see yourself from 3rd person at all times (with no getting used to it you just intuitively can do it) but you're stuck that way for the rest of your life, do you do it? oh and "you" have collission like you cant see through walls with it
hell yea brother
heresy gaming
What does the blue arrow mean
how many times you could go from 1-30 with your total xp
Oh i thought it meant other characters at 30 and i was really worried

coke has 76 lvl 30 characters
darkpill actually has that number
Is that a stan quote in your name
yes 🙂
thats stan trying to say "arco"
Figured
he called me Jason first instead of arco
and then haut, so I was Jason haut
and then he fucked up calling me Jason bourne
and then he called me a asian instead of arco
I don't remember where sweatbomb came from
evolution of a language
brings a tear to every linguists' eyes
I still don't understand why he doesn't just edit his messages
But im glad he doesn't
hehe
the police would hunt him down for daring to backspace
his family would disown him
space lasers would target him
he does once in a great while and it rarely improves things
Mobility
All that’s left is finishing up blessing farming for the update
I wonder if I can reach 500k plasteel before the update
ratio
im also not earning as much xp per mission cuz im a freak and am willingly
queuing into normal heresy lmao
300-350 damnation speedruns before the update would be the fastest way
probably normal damnation if youre only going for plasteel
Can't believe cole is farming dockets when he should be earning hunt bucks
cant earn hunt bucks if i instantly die the moment i see a player
You can get some from the random lottery thing if you play enough!
i had a controller plugged in and i was bored so i picked it up and went to the meatgrinder
and was instantly reminded
how much it fucking sucks to play this game on controller
if it does, probably a heavy or rev'd light/rev'd heavy
yeah evisc 12 can with heavy. so sad
oh yeah what does all the hsword speciasl do, does a weird diagonal slash, any properties?
If it adds to the pain i play hunt on controller aswell and use hunter controls over gunslinger
Probably not without rev but rev does it free
Maybe with a bunch of buffs up plus crit or something
Stagger lets you loop h1
ah.
is evisc 12 really meta?
wow hunt so fun
spend 12 minutes doing fuck all only to instantly die to someone i couldnt see
i told u, sound knowledge check the game
there wasnt a single sound they were making
listen harder (im joking)
Some ppl will for sure sit in the exact same spot on the map the entire match on hunt
The most annoying by far is people that take bounty sit in the boss lair and all 3 of them bring concertina bombs throw at doors at sit the entire match
@spare talon cole pls
15
actually idk why i asked for clarification cuz i dont really know
i dont use either
@coarse birch yoshi pls
Evisc 15 meta?
Also does each rev proc critspam CDR?
Both are good
Idk how invested you are in getting good at hunt but youtubers racthaZ and hornet are extremely good and you might be able to gather info from their videos
Kinda just preference
Their both euro tho so funny accent warning
Wym does it proc cdr
It will if you crit after the cooldown as per usual
but but is it meta like caxe?
And and if you rev then the thing digs, then alot of hits right, does each hit count as like a "crit hit" so you would have 5 hits in one rev, something like that
No
Caxe is like
Top 3 weapons
Only think that competes with caxe is psword in terms of general use id say
Hsword is close
Way less cara damage tho
i see, then uh 15 go wound build or critspam?
also blessings i see the table all they cleave
I prefer momentum honestly
I barely notice honestly
i not as good as u or josho so unless there is a big horde its hard to stay at max stacks, or even achieve them
new mommentum gives me like uh 7-8 stacks usually only
As for this im not really sure i think it might just apply to final hit
Havent played around with them in a bit
you take these blessings?
@coarse birch
So whats the thoughts on tanner uncanny video sauced or schizo
If its 15 i take rampage/whatever
I took bloodthirsty personally since its fine and i got it on a great roll
Don't need to watch tanner to know it's probably stupid
And yeah i have little faith in tanner
Last i heard him say about uncanny was its bad for duelling swords which is just false unless you are really crit maxxing
And you arent zealot
Whole concept of the bideo was uncanny was waisted on knives as you dont keep stacks up long enough to do anything meaningful with them as opposed to i think it was riposte
Yeah getting consistent one shots is a bit finnicky
Needs like headshot crit + sustained assault
Mk15 requires a crit rev to kill
5 stack wound is enuf
Although i was testing that when p13 came out might be diff since then
awesome
another game where i go the entire game without seeing a player up until the death screen
And yeah martyrdom gives a lot of buffs
this time i knew he was after me after i heard an arrow wizz past my head
didnt help me actually find where he was though
genuinely stop playing the game if you don't like it
You gotta learn to move relatively quitely and listen for other players
literally all im doing the entire duration of a match is try to make as little noise as possible
what
and the only times i can actually tell that a player is near is if
- theyre shooting
- im not moving so i can hear their footsteps instead of my own drowning them out
the player voices are comstantly.fucking screaming at you
how can you not tell where they are???
Dont be afraid to move and make noise just know where youre going when you do decide to move and you have to commit to it hunts very unforgiving you mispositioning
what are you talking about
cuz im not talking about darktide or anything
i think hes sayijng htere is some idle sounds
even if you are not moving
made by the characters
what the fuck you talking about
There isn't
hunt showdown
We're talking hunt
the only idle character sounds ive heard are someone getting hurt, dying, or my own character being out of breath
They can cough also if they get hit by chokes
else, the only real advice is.
You learn how to check those campy spots / be more cautious after playing a bit more.
using a choke against them also requires me to both know theyre near me, and know in what direction
I'm talking generally
but yeah when i was playing with meow i was using the choke someone threw to my own advantage
cuz they kept fucking walking in it themselves lmao
Hunt is a harsh mistress, takes a bit to get the hang of
but like ive said in the past, even if i get the hang of the audio and stuff
that doesnt mean ill stand any change in any fights
cool i know which direction theyre in
wont stop them from one shotting me the moment they get LoS
Billy story and carter only acceptable gaming
I also played the hot lady skins (MOST OF THEM)
oh yeah when you light attack with evsic 15 the game adds 100 kg to your ankles
( i am not rashad pilled i am not rashad pilled i am not rashad pilled)
Winning a gun fight is also a learned set of skills
Or you could just use romero half slugs
The romero buckshot one shots to an insane range tho
wow the first fight that i actually got to engage in
too bad i had to constantly deal with a steady swarm of grunts and swarms so i never got to actually shoot more than twice
do the two revolver share blessingsas?
literally no idea where they came from considering they wasnt anything nearby prior to the engagement
yes
They're attracted by sound
i assumed they were
Have you used the bow and arrow yet?
they play dead
They'll come a running
it was also just on the border of an area that i had just already cleared out
wdym cleared out
and i killed everything on the half closest to the side the fight took place on
were u in the open/woods?
they probably just trickled in from the woods
i was in a deep brush and the other guy was in the woods
oh cool
a single room with 2 armored 2 hives and 5 grunts
and you can only swing enough times to kill 1/3rd of those
Throwing axes are your best tool theyll 1 tap armored and hives
Apparently the throwing spears are also rlly good idk tho
im currently playing soul survivor to get the hang of the thing that will kill me the most
that being other players
so loadout choices arent really an option
plus im not too keen on willingly playing 1v2s
Ill be real w you youre only going to run into vegetables or the absolute sweatiest mfrs in sole survivor no one rlly casually plays it compared to reg mode
And outside of general gunplay and maybe like basic postponing its not going to teach much how how people move around in main mode
It's ok for trying out weapons but yea it's rough stuff
throwing spears can kill a meat head in 4 hits
Also hunter one shots even on limbs i believe?
I haven't played since they were added
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Neenoh is a fun watch and you'll learn shit, he runs alot of meme loadouts
same thing
even in normal games
plus the game just didnt even let me use my necromancer trait
yah
more damage than a nitro lol
in
which mode
either
when u die
spend the entire game doing jack shit up until the moment i see a player then i instantly die from the first hit
it didnt let me do it to begin with
it just told me "go back to the menu idiot and lose the only character you have"
yes
hm
Weirdly specific message
yeah these games really have it out for me
tbf the exact same thing happened when i was with meow
almost every single time someone had line of sight with me, i was instantly down .2 seconds later
You're putting way too much pressure on yourself and you're at a point where there's very little to lose. And yea headshots are instant down
my time
ive just spent 2 hours playing a walking simulator
Could be dayz
i feel like im playing pubg western edition
yeah but id be having a better time doomscrolling reddit without an account
which is already not very enjoyable
Stop beating yourself up over every death, you're new to it
that implies im slowly improving though, which hasnt really been the case, theres not really been any opportunities to improve
I think you might be looking for improvement in the wrong places, you take break it down into smaller steps
Like even if you feel yourself recognizing footsteps/audio better, thats an improvement regardless of the outcome being death, the outcome not being death will come later
I like to look at the main goal being improvement and better results being a side effect
You've also barely started
Im not trying to dictate how you view improvement but if your just looking to be doing better on the scoreboard/more kills etc it will feel slow going
^
Your metric of improvement should be the very thing you are trying to improve, not your KD / win loss.
fighting games taught me that.
i mean
my metric of improvement so far has been whether ive been able to actually play it
thats wrong
you should have a clear area where you want to improve on
be it the audio ques reecognize, or 1v1 aim
etc etc
not i get killed by sometime i can't see.
or i still lost the 1v1 even though i heard him
= i bad
ofc thats if you want to improve on the game 100%, which can take abit of fun out of it
its actually very simple to imrpove at most games esp pvp ones but it just isn't very fun at least for most people
One of the reasons it's less enjoyable to become better at PvP is that the thing beating your ass is a real person taking joy in beating your ass
i don't agree.
That also implies the person beating your ass is enjoying you losing (at least the way its framed)
I mean
Yes because they're winning if you lose, so most of the time they will enjoy it 9x out of 10
for me its just in games like these
cuz it takes so much time for you to get to the point where youre in another engagement
only for the likelyhood for that engagment to end instantly
have you ever been in any fighting game communities?
a decent amt of people playing competitive games are assholes/have no sense of sportsmanship (this obv doesn't apply to everybody)
im much more fine with being one shot when i know its going to take 12 seconds till im back in it again and not 12 minutes
MK which isn't a good metric since They're pretty evil over there
online worse about it, irl people tend to be more reticent about being assholes (again, there are exceptions)
i said its not enjoyable because fundamentally you aren't really playing the game, you are doing checklists of stuff and monitoring your progress. Which most people would consider "homework".
Its very deliberate actions instead of enjoying the activity.
I mean you could say that about getting good at anything
I think that really depends on the person and game
i know i enjoy learning but i don't enjoy doing 100% to get good at a game
its very tedious
Yeah I get that, especially with games like hunt and tarkov
theres a reason why i never gave tarkov a single thought
i stopped tarkov because i realized im just playing the game to collect some currency.
And i thought about "what if i went the pvp route" then i was like nah, i don't want to play a game where its majority decided by your grind (pvp wwise)
for 2 months i went to learn routes, item values.
Then i ratted everywhere. did decent too.
i stopped tarkov because i realized im just playing the game to collect some currency.
like even in FGs with practical ToDs its not the same as "I wandered around an area for [X] minutes doing nothing then got randomly sniped"
which is just gonna be too much for some people
idk, are you referring to smash?
i only played tekken and strive
No? He was in the base game since old arcade version
wait really?
wasn't he DLC in 7?
Most people i played in smash were p chill although some people def got egos/were assholes
But i didnt play in tri state or anything
did he release on launch on later on?
idk i have this perception that he wasn't there until much later on
are you thinking geese or any of the other guest characters
i think i just assumed he was DLC because hes from SF. my bad :v
fair
anyway, its not like 50% of your fights are akumas online
i didn't even compete local
i only played tekken because i just wanted to try out FGs
it was sort of a period where i wanted to try new genres
Locals were chill, i used smash online for very specific things cause it's garbage
Didnt compete online much
Comparatively
i think the games that i to this day have no interest at all is point & click and VNs which to me aren't really "games" (esp VNs)
emphasis on the "to me"
visual novels need a level of engagement
zero escape as branching paths and escape rooms in them
ace attorney has investigation segments and cross examinations
just to name 2 off the top of my head
eh, that just feels like choose your story type thing, not exactly a game to me
but i understand its under a definition of a game.
Like i get choose your outcome + image (and maybe some animations) + voicework can identify as a game but thats not a game to me.
also doesn't help that most VNs on steam are H type games
i need to keep repeating the to me else someone joins in halfway and types something explaining that its actually a game.
for zero escape, the branching paths were part of the overall narrative
not just a "haha look this is the bad route!"
yeah so they show your consequences and then prob at the end have some super unique ending for your choice of actions that only for your choice of actions will be shown?
the branching paths are part of the plot itself
shouldn't this be the case? :v
the non-spoiler version is that you have to go down the non-true ending paths to unlock the true ending
you know in like 2012 or something, there was a short period of time where youtubers (iirc smosh did it)
the "choose your story" thing. Click this box to do this, click the second box to do this.
VN games basically just feels like this but in an application instead of youtube.
ahhh
yes
but the routes do not influence one another
in this, they do
im pretty sure you could have a hard working youtuber make it so the routes do influence each other
you just need a tracker for the links.
else you just have it as your own website/platform (e.g. a google doc online) , if its really hard to do it purely within youtube
lets search up the first game on youtube and see what comes up
oh wow
would you look at that
im saying, its possible to do it.
You are giving examples of what is already done.
Can you uh
be more on board with the conversation.
yeah my point was
visual novels are only actually interesting if they involve the player beyond what you could do with say a book
cuz you can do branching paths in a book too, but not to this level of interactivity
i can agree with that, i just don't recognize them as "games"
though 999/zero escape literally has escape room sections so its quite literally only half visual novel
but ace attorney is definitely a 100% visual novel that is also a true game
yeah i heard its quite good
btw irl horror escape rooms are so cool esp if there are actors (they call them NPCs)
have you played them?
irl horror escape rooms?
ive only done 2 irl ones
and they werent horror
one wasnt even set up right
damn
yeah the horror ones they scare you and chase you
i mean its hard to make it sound fun with 2 sentences xD
definitely have seen videos of the people doing them just absolutely trolling the npcs tho
i mean thats if you want to be asshole xD
depend on the person ofc
but the one i went to
it was so dark you couldnt see 2 meters
and there were "patrols"
so it was scary for me
Is it something genetic in you shouties that makes you really wanna run up ahead, blame the team when you die, and rage quit?
I swear to the emperor I have not seen a single other class do it
i was told by someone here that i should wait until level 30 to do any upgrades on weapons. is this true if i play like maybe 1 game a day?
yeah, stat increments will outdo your blessing upgrades
in terms of pub:
ogryn is too slow, gets chunked by gunners. Also alot of ogryn players role play as "protecting the lil uns"
Vets need to be in coherency for that toughness thing to work + VOC works on teammates, or they are playing ranged so they stay backline.
Most psyker pubbers don't know how to play frontline psyker.
Zealot is the only moderately tanky and fast class.
There you go, thats the reason.
Was this a joke? If it was I can’t tell.
how does this look like a joke
stat increments? meaning the weapons i get as i level up will make previously upgraded weapons obsolete?
You said zealot is the only moderately tanky and fun class
That sounds like a joke to me
i mistyped fast
my bad
lmao
sorry i was playing pictionary
theres alot of these messages so i put off replying to you for a bit
yeah correkt
every other regular here will disagree, personally i found darktide end game to be boring
For me its just trying out new weapons / builds that interest me.
Core gameplay is quite similar.
So just enjoy the game dude. Its a pretty casual game after all.
got it, ty
Ah makes sense lol, didn’t mean to be one of the many. Just seems silly that zealot catches a heft of the sweaty toxic players.
eh, you will get to a level where you hate (ep) smiters and voc vets more because they make the game braindead.
This game is very much so about playing as a team, so running up ahead is antithetical to the point.
Oh trust me I don’t like them, but they complain less.
i will be honest, there isn't much teamplay other than reviving and coherency for some builds.
ultimately it becomes a game of "lets kill stuff together"
which means there isn't any teamplay
I mean at a raw base you have a point, but the idea is for as a team to accomplish the objectives and survive. If your objective is just for you to survive, then sure, but idk why you wouldn’t just play solo then.
This ^
because some stuff is literally impossible to solo say the objectives that need you to stay there and interact.
Plus like i said, revives (i include trappers here)
I appreciate teamplay being largely limited to helping each other out instead of making wacky support builds
if the game didn't have any disablers and the interactive objectives i genuinely will just go solo
Either way, not trying to be argumentative here, it just irks me when people do that.
your teammate is literally just there to revive you
A lot of people in co-op games misunderstand teamplay as "I need to make a support build", but it can be something as simple as shooting an enemy behind a player
tbf darktide isn't really a team game anyway
Which actually kind of is the idea behind a tactical shooter
you get used to it i guess
or get good enough one guy running ahead doesn't affect you
It doesn’t affect me other than the whining and moaning I’m forced to listen to because I don’t have a chance to mute them lol
i thik you can disable chat yeah
or just vote to kick them
Like I said, can’t really do that while I’m in the middle of a mission usually. Anyway. Sounds like I’m not saying anything original anyway lol
i think you can vote to kick mid match. DT doesn't have lobbies anyway.
Just disable chat for real then. if you enjoy the social aspect, you have to deal with the negatives of course.
but yeah, nothing new
I don’t really even know what I was expecting to get from this lol, I guess I just wanted to talk about it. Get thoughts from the source
N e ways, have a good night or morning shouties
common complain is
vets soak ammo, or just full on meta but somehow can't dodge dogs. (stealth deaggro is less common)
Psykers explode too much or spam smite.
Zealot run ahead, or stealth deaggro
Ogryn block friendly bullet, don't know how to slide
I don’t even think Ogryns block bullets anymore
Maybe sightlines, but I don’t think they stop bullets now
i understand some guns have cleave, but im not sure either, haven't had a ogryn in awhile in a5mael
Psykers do explode a lot
Even in auric which is surprising, but everyone makes mistakes I suppose
Oh and yeah I like never see other ogryns sliding
I was talking abt that earlier
i play enough of the game to know, and i only have 400 hours 
point: i played too much DT
Especially if they combo surge staff and force sword
usually those meta guns have cleave @buoyant pewter
no nobody does
all weapons shoot thru teammates now
whioch update?
one of the recent updates
ok so i have two diff chainswords - one of them attacks purely left to right swipes and the other does both vertical and horizantal swipes. do the swipes make a difference for different types of playstyles? like would vertical attacks not be good for horde clear?
i didn't realize because i never used non cleave guns
secrets of the machine god
yes
thats like 2 patches ago isn't it
Thought so
goddam thats super recent.
which is why comboing is important
they're really just sidegrades imo, they can both do the same job just differently
the xiiig has better horde clear on lights
and the heavies are more for single target
and its kind of inverted for the iv
better single target lights
heavies for horde clear
as far as i know
i havent used the iv in a while so could be misremembering but @spare talon can correct me
so would a purely left to right swipe sword be better for horde clear and a horizontal and vertical swipe sword would be more versatile? like are vertical swipes better for direct damage?
i dont use chain weapons 
the main thing i know about them is their crit cleave damage quirk but tahts about it
overhead attacks usually deal more damage and more armor pierce
namely heavy sword 9
Still waiting for Ogryn to get a giant chain weapon
Not what I meant but that would be kinda sick
Like a ball and chain sort of deal like a flail from vt2
I also want thunder fist
thunder fist but its the fists from kf2
Let me actually fist fight monsters
Mmmm yea. Fist weapons in general would be nice.
uppercut rev
If anyone should get it, it’s Ogryns. Lemme run that with GG and it’s lights out for the enemies
They’re dusted
yeah, making ogryns not soak bullets is why i swapped agri8 for graia4 on my Vet alt
that was a healthy change
i kind of liked teammates soaking bullets but im not a gun player
it fucking sucked
\
peak
how do i get the convict role? i tried searching the diff channels for info but couldnt find anything (i want to be able to send screenshots)
also, for chainswords/eviscerators, does rating or light attack matter more? going for a horde clear sword
you gave them some more, smack that.
what
like uh Akon? :v
but in seriousness, you need to type X amount of messages / be a regular.
is there a certain amount of messages?
it happens pretty quickly
so what do you think about bussy
icl not being able to react to messages is moderately infuriating
bruh
so its really jus me not havign the convict role
dopeeee
consider moving to australia
fucking hell
i only have 400 hours in the game 
☠️ ☠️ ☠️
darktide end game is moving on to playing pictionary with the other regulars.
also curious ab this one
If the light attack is either the unarmored or infested value, then light attack is an okay measure
wdym unarmored or infested value
But ultimately you'd rather look at the values for stuff like maniac, flak and carapace
Groaners and poxwalkers are piss easy to kill with zealot bonuses
The armor types for the trash enemies
Flamer has some range, just not a ton of it. It only starts to matter when the enemies are out of your range that are hammering you and shredding you/your team


