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but its not the end of the world if you dont get it to happen tbh
i should probably clean up my darktide video folder soon
that thread was stupid
100% a lacerate user
we already talked about this
lemme find it so you can read us fucking imploding
here
yeah, he said as much, I suspect he's padding the scoreboard by making everything bleed and having his mates clean up after him
"look at my DPS!"
he said he runs bleed knife
so im automatically assuming lacerate
with probs the lowest team damage
He runs lacerate (bad) and mercy killer (good)
my brother sat down next to me for a bit as i was playing to talk to me a bit and he read a few of those screenshots that were on my second screen and he went "...what?" as i was literally using the mk3 knife lmao
But he doesn’t use heavy so what’s the point
@royal vortex What do you think, can I swap Elite to +reload speed?
this is perfect already doesnt need reload speed
That is what I am also thinking
its for the vet btw
I mean use weapon spec if you want to never reload on shotguns, take volley adept if you have the spare points if you want
light attack weapon btw
#zealot-class message
light attack weapon
can we make this a new joke here
please god itd be so funny
I try and run an auric and first crash of night immediately pain
how do u feel about the mk3
im liking it just as much
but i definitely feel its lack of any hord clear whatsoever
but i am able to one shot things that a previously couldnt with a mk6
ive only used it today and i kinda autopilot so i cant be certain lmao
but im pretty sure gunners were one shot if it was a crit
but idk ill need to actual compare the two
put on lacerate, thatll fix it
Mk6 supremacy
oh yeah
i still like the mk6 push attack more
they deal the same damage but the stab just feels better to use
Omnissiah wills it, I have been told to fuckin LOVE CLEAVING
welp at least you got that Wrath III
Could have been more smh
Devastating strike could have been savage sweep
If they dont rework or dont change devastating strike with blessings rework and crafting update
im gonna be
Dude i was just about to say how fucking pathetic of a blessing it ks
im 190% sure that they will axe brutal momentum and deathblow
assuming what certain "influental" people here said and think about it
And in doing so they'll axe the axes
Yeah I mean combat ones
Like I like a good Rashad run every now and again for some brain off big damage
oh yeah I forgot I also have this knife of unending rending lmao
this is great knife
But if bromentum gets killed in not touching them agajn
Backstab -> Riposte/Precog/could be Mercy Killer
Weakspot -> Flak or Elites or Maniacs or Carapace
Ruthless to ft/precog/riposte
Weak spot to enemy type of your choice
I don't really vibe with mercy killer on zealot tbh

THIS BITCH BROKE
But either way it's good to keep in mind
and full of teeth or thunderous power
Its pretty good, as this is a constant DPS increase (assuming the situation with 75% crit up) that you can account in many situations, unlike precog, especially in those we're stupid enemies ignores you and you are freely hitting bosses/elites in the back
And I need my melee weapon to enable my goblin tendencies
oh this is less zealot-specific and more a general question for some wqeapon behaviour.
Does Full Bore work with the agripinaa's slug shot?
@spare taloni also been running riposte + mercy killer, with 95% crit it's the same as using that Vet passive
In higher difficulties it's very rare for not a single enemy to be attack you tbf
Plus precog scales higher, and can also work on the first hit, the only realistic way you're getting MK active is if you crit them, and most enemies would have died if precog was active by that point
I do get what you're saying but I simply think precog is just more universally applicable considering the kind of weapon knife is
Id basically swap BM to shred on combat axe if they nerf it
It'll probably still rock big time
Yes, that's why it's BiS for agrip
It really wouldn't honestly

then here's this monster I've been just falling in love with more and more
Like have you actually used a combat axe without it in damnation or auric
Yeah, precog is stronger no doubt, but mercy is not that far away as it has it's use too, just that people been using it wrong with shit like Lacerate + MK
Shits fucking miserable
I have thought about pairing both together, but riposte is a consistent 20% crit and basically never drops so lol
Not for ages but it wouldn't be so bad on Antax
BM/DB nerf?
Welp, we have plenty of weapons to use, tho every nerf decrease the opportunities to do so (like Chastise ranged nerf).
More people will switch to knifes or tactical axes in that case
Hsword probably will still be fine, though weaker with Headtaker + Rampage
I've still never used a db hsword
That's the combo I've used and it's literally still a heavy sword
Yeah, DB is not a requirement, just a bit stronger compared to Rampage
Agri shotty feels really nice, especially now that the spread on Kant is made a bit worse compared to its release.. but agri is so ammo hungry
Kant on release was something special
Sniping gunners from 70m away.. fire shot through walls to help teammates with their dog related issues
you need to get better at melkmaxxing
i dont even play knives aside from penances
Tbf I stopped playing for a while and got back in for secrets
its never too late to start gambling
Oh damn. No joke. Yeah I switched it over to uncanny for like a mission or so, and it actually felt worse, so I’m back to riposte and precog lol
Thats probably because for uncanny you need to actually hit the weak spot. Which you probably dont always do.
You should always aim for the weakspot
: /
Sure. But what I mean is, its sometimes hard, and that blessing only works if you hit the weakpsot. Kinda situational.
And it’s a reoccurring buff if you don’t get at least one weakspot hit during the timer (while in combat ofc) you are playing the weapon wrong
wguys
It’s not hard lmao
Just move your mouse up and down
I do typically. Just feels, as Cole and I had talked about before, less consistent.
Kant 12 isn’t worth using on zealot period
I play on Xbox lol
Thats what I mean, probably not hitting it when theres big clumps of enemies around you. I would guess.
No mouse
Use the mkia or las pistol
Move your stick up and down
Oh thats probably harder
It’s all vertical
It is, but it’s more comfortable to me anyway
One big thing I’ve had to work on is generally leaving my aim at head height, as I’m much quicker to aim center mass
That’s just my resting height
The height ranged difference for 95% of a match is groaner height to crusher height which isn’t even that much
Might just make my character taller
It would be if the weapon wasn’t specifically most optimal when hitting weakspots
Can someone send me the ideal crusher? Wanna know what I should be shooting for
And uncanny attacks fast
Well, some struggle with it, ya digg? Not every player is you, budd
High damage stats, skullcrusher, and 2 good perks
Oh okay
So like elites maniac flak unyielding?
Yea but that isn’t the blessing that’s the players
Yee
Yeah , no shit. But whats the point of a player taking a blessing he wont benefit from.
Whats the benefit of a player taking a blessing teaching them bad habits instead of learning?
To learn how to play the game
He can take a different blessing, and practice hitting the weakpoints. And until he hits them most of time, make the switch. DUH
This line of thinking just goes, well i’ll benefit most from haymaker since i spam heavies into chest
I don’t think purposefully bad players should be catered to, they should be encouraged to improve and get better, not have their playstyles validated
If you come into this chat, i recommend what is best
If you say you can’t make use of it, i’m going to tell you how to use it better
Damn how did this end up calling me bad 😭
End of story, if you want your own playstyle you can continue playing it
It’s not you
Specifically
I do know xbox has issues
I like to think I’m pretty decent for an Xbox player
I do know the best way to improve as an xbox controller is get a controller like the pros that compete against PC in tourneys have
Where you have gyro controls
Tho it’s unnecessary
And will take some money and time learning
Sorry, I’m playing a mission so my responses might be slow
The deadpool and wolverine controllers are better for competitive play tbh
Carried another team thru an auric, actually felt very flattered abt it cuz someone asked me for my build lol
Uhhhh how would I know which ones are better lol
I just use a standard one
Tbh it would definitely help to have one with like the pads on the back so I can use blades of faith with my index or middle rather than my thumb
Gyro controls i think is the term
Oh okay
Idk if xbox supports it officially even
But lets you physically move your controller to help with precise movements
Oh nice
What if vet explode like psychedelic every time he goes down
With unused grenade on him
is it an lsd grenade?
Should I go for bolt pistol or bolt gun? I rarely ever use my secondary weapon, I just want to pull it out every now and then to focus fire a big thing
Revolver if thats what you want it for
it’s meh
if u wanna use it ads more often than not then switch calvacade, or if you wanna hipfire switch surgical
zealot dance of death makes the hipfire very accurate
also swap ranged weakspot to
uhh
flak prolly
Oooo I'm torn
Still doing the Stealth penances so I'm not shooting a lot, but I'm ADS when I do
On the other hand, I'm not going to run the Stealth build when I'm done; I'm gonna go back to FotF berserker mode, so I'm tempted to plan ahead and switch Surgical out for Shattering Impact IV
Aaah it doesn't matter, locks are coming off anyway
is this josho's pfp
Yuppers
Th poster can be quick draw
Upgrade time
Anyone willing to share some good Zealot builds?
I have a cocain built
Wanna give it a gogo
?
yeah, sure
Thank you
Swag.
thanks
What blessings should i use on the hammer to 1 Tap a boss?
Very swag thank you
Y’all think the emperor is a yolo swag kinda dude
thrust
- headtaker or slaughterer
genuinely though, unelss you just murdered a pack of enemies headtaker is better for pure boss damage, and even then its marginal at times
thrust does the hardlift
tyvm
i assume trauma and hammerblow are crap in comparison
and the Mk2 is better right?
that build isn’t great, i wouldn’t use it lol
what would you use then?
hang on
@hollow coral
uncanny precognition knife
you can swap the chorus for charge or stealth
cole is here to correct my build
hi cole
Those only affect impact, stagger force
So they do nothing for dmg whatsoever
And yeah the crucis is the one you want if you're specifically going for boss one shots
I'm not a book man myself but considering knife is now the best ability spam weapon, I have no issues with it, everything looks good
ty
pulls out way too slow so i use double barreled shotgun
gives doom vibes 😎
anyone have a good hammer build?
martyrdom charge throwing knives
But yeah this can generally work with every ability
Or momentum
You're stinky
u cant be stinky when ur too fast to leave stink
too bad im already gone bye
what does it smell like
stink
u smell like the adventure time character?
yes that
you can’t one shot bosses anymore
Well I see a lack of 25% unyielding right there
also true
ok 2 shot or 3 shot or 4 shot
carapace isn’t good on hammer unless u run marytrdom and duelist
can it 2 shot bosses
it takes about 5 shots or more
do u have chastise on
yes
uhm
idk
are u hitting weak spots
ur damage stat is kinda low
probably a contributor
yes
Boss thammers are probably one of the most grueling things to make in the game
Cuz everything has to be perfect
seems like it
Every dip in a stat or perk dramatically affects the final number
Cuz it's literally just stacking so many big buffs that the number just becomes massive
i thought they would have fixed the hammers after all the patches
the last time i used one was a year ago
But the lower the starting number or lower the multipliers, the significantly lower the final result
im thinking of maybe now trying out a knife again
martydom or momentum? which is better for the knife?
your dmg is dumped on that hammer
Yeah I'm assuming that plus the lack of unyielding is anywhere from 30-40% damage they are missing against bosses
Rashad
That Antax’s 40% first target basically makes it unusable
The Rashad roll isn’t particularly great either
It's still a 3/4 with good stats tbh
TY for the input chads i am new to the true itemization endgame
Pretty sure Rashad needs maniac on zealot
I keep getting really shitty ones. Is this workable or a Womp Womp
its fine
def workable lol
Okay cool
that crusher is solid yea
activated attacks on crushers are just your opener to a fight or to clear shit off you,
Oh okay
Like I said, 3/4
It'll still do great in most situations
"Do you have this cat food in a sample bag?"
???????????
Ma'am you are holding a 6 dollar bag of the bottom of the barrel dirt cheap cat food
My shift just started, man
Not yet
Does Overpressure improve dot damage after the flamethrower buffs in the last patch? Or still just Blaze Away?
just blaze
general chat, I come bearing gifts
why are you rayman
The warp truly is perilous
What blessings do i want on the knife again?
I have finally achieved the status of sigmar male
pregoc or uncanny
avoid the flood
ty

Riposte and precog is pretty interesting for zealot due to the high crit chance you can get with scourge and piety, as well as stacking it with duelist
It does make you rely heavily on dodging attacks, but when it procs it's a lawnmower
Alternatively, uncanny strike and judgement is a solid alternative because it relies less on crits while still having them quite often through scourge and riposte
Chewing gum with shoes and headphones

its very good

Ew
i hate this
Why uncanny over ruthless on knife?
Uncanny is up all the time regardless of position, ruthless is backstab only
Uncanny also buffs throwing knives if you're using em
Ahhh right
As any knife does.
thoughts
very nice
need more plasteel but atleast got maniac damage?
either gonna rebless x2 into BM and HT
Good, but 2 of the important stats are a little low, but not enough to suddenly stop being good
Replying to this
Just don't know why discord didn't do that initially lol
would that be pen and finesse?

picked up 328 ammo
using a fucking
kickback
id see him shoot like
a single bruiser
constantly
kickback gungryn exists
yeah he fucking sucked though
ho2 do you suck with a singleshot shotgun that can usually 2shot anyrhing it points
By not pointing it center mass of entire packs but center mass of individual enemies
Was replying to the guy with the knife
Discord just hates me and removes my replies for no reason
He's prolly using it like a smol's shotgun
And the ammo 'cost'so to speak of how many shots he gets back for a tin of ammo vs how many another class or gun would get
or just shooting every single enemy even when he’s playing the class with some of the best melee options
Means he's super duper wasting ammo
I betcha he would've skated under the radar if the team had had a vet with ammo regen
But in a normal ammo economy yeah lol ^that shit is obnoxious
Vet ammo regen is bigly yuge for rumbler/kicky/gauntlet because the game has to give you at least one shot per regen
But on say a stubber the amount you gwt back is a lot less than the guns that only have 20 rounds total, by % of ammo given
doubt it
328 shots
on a what
58 shot gun?
Good god I came in late and missed that part
.
they changed the ammo return calculation on survivalist in patch 13 so that it stores the value of your ammo as a percentage when you get an elite/specialist kill with a weapon that has <100 reserve
The guy whose name is 3 squarss
it no longer disproportionately refunds higher ammo to low ammo reserve weapons
on top of the 5 second cooldown between activations
1 ammo on bolter
arguably survivalist was gutted so much its just useless
and used as the fastest way to get focus fire
still has its place, it's just event or map specific
it's still a godsend on twins for example
yeah
it takes its place among every other aura as being an insignificant stat buff
but 1 ammo on bolter its bleh
Whatd it used to give?
i thonk either 5 or 3 ammo
That's wild considering ammo is cemented at 95 rounds no matter what
so without the cooldown it stacked quite nicely
115
reserve is now 100 instead of 80
Derp u rite u rite
I'm still so high-school sweetheart about my sister of battle bolt pistol I haven't gone back to the workhorse yet
I know it could be better and the playerbase prolly hasn't had enough time to suss out universal blessing/perk combos for the pistol yet
But goddamn if they'd let me hold the bolt pistol in one hand and the assault chainsw9rd or chain axe in the other I would never use another loadout again
what if there was custom weapon specialist animations
for that
certain weapons would be held duel wielded

hate,
A vet on my team
Yikes
the rapier exists in vt2
so why cant the bolter chainsword combo
And he let me die, when he had his stealth ult ready
Right next to me
Fighting a singular bulwark

At least it's not lacerate
That's the bare minimum
This still sucks but God it's still better than 80% of what most knives you see out there
peak
Y'know
The weirdest part is that crit damage actually is bad for lacerate + flesh tearer
Because they're stacking bleed
Arthur 
And perks affect that
And if their goal is to deal bleed damage, they actually shouldn't be perking crit
anyway I shat your pants
So you're telling me the bad knife build is bad????????????
What???????
25% damage perks affect bleed damage 
No lacerate user would know that tho
They're too busy reveling in their less than mediocre damage
actually run n gun and terrifying barrage are the best combination for the zarona revolver, they give you more options on how to handle situations, either on the move to avoid damage as you are in combat, or by preventing them from from shooting to begin with
honestly quite true bestie honestly quite true bestie honestly quite true bestie honestly quite true bestie
bit low pen and no flak hurts but otherwise it's aight
He is lvl800
So it's worse when you think about it
dullest axe
it's actually a club
but shouty's belief makes it into an axe
because nobody wants to argue with her about it
so it's an axe
I pair that axe with these when I run jobs with people I don't like but are in the same friends orbit
Brick time
You couldn’t even piece skin with it that’s a squeaky hammer except axe
Ha
and the guns are actually nerf dart guns
I need to get a 0% thunder hammer now, thank you for my next unicorn buy
I'd be happy if the actually had 1h hammers for zealot
Let me unironically use a basic ass 🔨
Let the special be using the back part as a hook pull like the pickaxe for a combo starter
Like a weaker folding shovel donk and yank with 2 instances of damage, but it's also a pull with a unique attack after like the picks
Not as strong as both ofc but it does both and faster
That's be cool
perhaps a mace as well...
lil honker
Big head mode
sir your piglet is strangely shaped
Yes
Gee the best blessing in the game on Rashad? Hmm I wonder
I just spent 20 minutes painfully attempting to help someone reset their password for their account so they could login while running a register
This a decent bolt or is the rating too low?
Just aqquire a crippling disability and hope the American government actually decides to give you that money they promised
Does being a zealot main count as a disability
I think it does
The government does not sadly
Or is surgical not really that great to run on zealot
I've not played enough with bolt weapons to know what good stats and perks are
But surgical deadly accurate exists on the boltpistol
Surgical is fine on zealot
And that's 1 of the 2 good combos on it
Deadly accurate is a bit of a bonus
I rolled this bolt pistol with glory hunter and surgical and the stats seem good jw if it’s worth the ordo
If you want one yeah
Gloryhunter to DA and reload to whatever gives breakpoints
Mobility being low is always fine
I don't think collateral matters too much
be a speed freak and use run n gun/glory hunter or (meme pick) lethal proximity
Collateral is a dump stat always
You actually want it low on some weapons
I consider it a better dump than mobility
Which should I buy? Both seem REALLY tempting
I wouldn't buy either 
Unless you have DA 4 I would grab the Bistol and rip it
That's 1/4 for both, with goodish stats for both
Dumped stopping power on the shotgun is unfortunate
I have zero god rolls at this point, so even a good-ish means I can finally switch up my loadouts more
Tho the DB stopping is def a yikes
The main thing with melk bucks is you always want to have enough to buy a weapon, at all times
I would only consider the bolt pistol
pistol is seeming like the best option, since it's both good AND it has a highly desired blessing
yeah, I would get both except I do want to keep enough marks on hand
If you buy an okay weapon with your only currency, then the best godroll might show up on the next day and you're SOL
The great thing about rolling bolt pistols is that they only truly need 1 stat to work
I personally would only buy stuff from melk if it's insanely good or has a blessing you want
Reload speed is optional, your recoil is already fucking insane, collateral is worse than mobility
I think zealot could probably do 2-3 shot crusher with crits
No idea though
I run a crit build zealot, so the 90% crit weak spot bonus is most of why it's calling to me
Surgical will naturally round out the missing chance just by you naturally aiming
But yeah for that bistol swap Execution for Surgical and stamina for whatever gives important breakpoints (gunners/specials)
Since crit chance is additive
So the 1 second you spend aiming will give you 30-40% on top of you're like what 30% base with piety active
+5 base and +4 from that perk
Tho I will say
If you're going down this route
A revolver is just gonna do the job better
I have enough hours on revolver at this point
Yeah but Zarona is boring
And bolt pistol feels like it deserves it’s fucked damage
Jarvis play that clip of me hitting a dog 3 times wjth a boltpistol and it doesn't flinch
If you are unmodded I would recommend getting mods and Weapon Customization to stick a real optic on that thing because it’s irons suck
Pretty sure I've shot one quite a few times with a braced autopistol with the same results
Anything works for crusher
Just depends on what you wanna deal the most damage to
Hmmmm
There aren't any BPs that matter
I’m thinking either flakiac or flak unyielding
How good is crusher against monsters?
Okay, then probably maniac then.
Ok this is so true. I love these sandwiches
Thats doritos
no its a sandwich
Ok
Okokok
I will admit stan is half correct
Putting chips in a basic sandwich to give it a crunch sometimes goes hard as fuck
Dude cream cheese and Doritos on a roll slap
Ok but not that

I'd also love to know the context to this one
its from a show called Trailer Park Boys, its pretty cool
Cleave blessings do basically nothing so rampage and shred
Oh okay neat
Too bad my perks are duds
Well one of them at least
I’ll have to wait til the update to get rid of my…. shudder crit chance
Crit chance is kind of ok
Really?
Not the worst you could do
I mean yeah
Its better than block efficency
I could’ve gotten infested or groaners
You can hit 60% crit with t4 shred and +5 crit, just with shred stacks and piety
90% with scourge
sorry 55% and 85%
I can remember numbers
Automatically makes you smarter than an Ogryn
I was being sarcastic

What are some other weps I should go for that like, scream “zealot”. I’ll probably get most of them eventually anyway, but was curious if y’all had any ideas
Get a mk2 laspistol
Okay
Infernus Dum Dum Unyielding and whatever
Oh sweet okay
On any build where you take knives and have shitty boss damage, take the laspistol
It good against bosses?
Works best with FotF and full auto mod
The burn damage is
Worth it for melk bucks?
I can regularly pump 30k plus damage by just using FotF for the 25% fire rate and just holding left click for like 2-3 magazines
Naw you can roll a better pen stat yourself
Oh damn
You can totally make this work
Nice
you are 2/4 so just consecrate than swap whatever perk you get for Hand Cannon and Crit damage for whatever gives important breakpoints
Pen doesn't really matter with surgical hand cannon
Also melk has this sword. I can get one or the other?
rending goes brrrrrr
I guess it still probably non crit one shots trappers which is all you need
Bro r u fucking melk or something? He never has anything good for me
wait you're not giving sire milk the suck n fuck 
Get this
Wrath to Deathblow and stamina to Flak
Nah that’s a face only a mother could love
It's cause I don't play zealot XD
Heavy Swords are very good at horde and mixed horde, and postively mulch elites
Their only problem is carapace damage
Usually play ogryn or vet
oh I'm fine with chips on a sandwich, just not something fucked up like dortios on a sandwich lmao
Go for body shots on maulers or use FotF to break through with rending
The weapon special does more damage to cara than its heavies
this is chaotic evil
But if you get up against more than 2 crushers, your only real option is to fucking pray and start dancing your heart out
What ranged weapon pairs well with that melee weapon? And uh im guessing the charge ability?
^
the gif? trailer park boys
Generally anything that can snipe
alternatively if you take Blades of Faith, a mk2 laspistol
Built like this
It awaits in its abode... for an unsuspecting victim to happen upon it...
Or... u know... snack time...
So your typical revolver would be suitable
Yeah but I hate the Zarona
Kinda wanna try the bolt pistol for laughs but I know it’s uh… meh
I think its pretty good
A (fair) bit harder to aim, but more ammo, stagger, and supression
@quaint verge
I have tested and a no talents vet with Da 3 and 8% elites and 25% cara takes 5 fucking crits to kill a crusher
wtf is that laugh
Got 2 build related questions. Would a crusher build look similar to an evis build? Additionally, what should I do for a relic build? Thinking flamer and something else, but haven’t gotten that far.
Flamer is a good choice
Meta used to be fotf but range boost got removed
Invis works too ig but i dont think it really complements it like chorus does
But thats irrelevant
For crusher?
P much the same.
Crusher and evis? Or what
Ye crusher and evis
Oh okay bet
So I’ll make a build that can interchange those two, then I need to fine tune my relic build, then I should have all the builds I need, with a free slot for testing
Whats your build for evis look like?
Yeah I don’t have one lol
Oh
A build I mean
Rn I have a shroud field knife revolver build, the makings of a relic flamer build, and a thammer build
It's like in the midway of good and bad
Crit chance is pretty good in general
But at 5%? That's almost nothing
But that's still more crit chance
So it's better than like half of the perks
But the other half of perks just do more for you
Yeah I mean it’s pretty much just okay
At best
Disappointing at worst
Exactly
Just took a recording of my relic build just waiting for it to upload. While I wait I’m gonna start putting together a FOTF build for evis and crusher.
I find that I haven’t really used momentum for anything, and I wonder why tbh
Oh okay then, maybe I’ll use it for this build then.
Tbh if it's a finesse weapon I'm always on piety
If it's not, I use momentum
Crusher is an exception cuz it's kinda both but momentum just feels better for it as a two hander, plus the dodge dist/speed/regen buffs help it
Bricked?
Nah youre right thats pretty bad
I didn’t really know what else to take
Take off backstab and bleed on crit put it in to gun damage up close and infested/unyielding damage is what i would do
Hmmmmm
Probably not a bad idea
I have a lot of stam anyway
You'll regularly hit 0 with the crusher, and the damage bonus lasts 5 seconds from the moment you stop being at 0
second wind is generally a wasted point too
nothing beyond the abyss challenge is hard does anyone have any tips im 23/25 on it and just cant seem to do it
The coherency one in the top middle isn't that great for zealot cuz their coherency regen is paused during melee combat
Also martyrs retribution is freshly squirted shit, it's genuinely terrible, it's 1% if your ability restored per 1% of health lost, which basically means if you go from full hp to 1 health, that's 1 single ability
Nice joke
Yknow, bait used to be believable
Second wind is toughness on dodge
Wow... that is such bait lol
any tips for nothing beyond the abyss challange ?
Even the one that reduces spread by 75% on dodge isn't useless... I've had that talent come in clutch quite a few times
Really? Yikes. Any suggestions for its replacement? I have 2 free points now
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abyss should be pretty easy though it helps to proc it in the right situation
if you have a hordeclear melee, just proc it during a horde and whack them and so on
I mean I take twbs on my marty build, despite not having enough for second wind
Not getting stunned from melee hits alone comes in clutch so many times, it's not even funny
With the crusher it is mandatory
That's the most annoying thing about playing vet, even as an almost pure melee vet... you get stunned on melee hits
And honestly I would be happy if it was part of zealot as a class
It would help make zealot feel a lot more unique as a class if it was a base, but, it might be a bit powerful as a base though
It is my goblin mode enabler
I mean sure you got faster stamina regen and such... but no melee hit stuns is so fucking good
And I love it
There's always that 1 asshole that somehow gets through your dodge/pushes
Same with with suppression immunity on vet
Hell I could see that as a base
Vet has supression immunity extra ammo as a base kit
Zealot abyss and stun immunity
Gianni jumpscare
Hell give em an extra dodge as well to spice it up
So instead of these 2 I grabbed restoring faith and the toughness node above it
Should be even MORE survivability
Dodges once
Dance of Death 
I have a couple builds around that
I will, ideally, be unkillable
Falls off the ledge instantly
^
Me, all the time on my knife build
Just imagine them having 2 total extra dodges with it, tho
Wouldn't that give force swords 5 dodges? lol
I mean with how squishy psykers are when shit hits the fan... I could see them getting an extra dodge to help mitigate that
Even Veterans feel more tanky than psykers... :/
Well yeah
Tbf psykers have an insane kit to mitigate being put in a sticky situation
I mean it's true, but, it would just be a little bit nicer to reduce the pressure on the player a tiny bit extra
Fair
The pressure you feel under high duress feels much higher on the psyker, from my experience... but I main zealot
I mean I've pulled off clutches as the psyker, and the psyker's kit allows for some amazing clutching capabilities... but it is fairly specialized
That dueling sword mk 4 is spicy
Definitely is my favorite of the dueling swords
Saltzpyre gaming
Hello damp poll
Shapiro pack
God dammit
Dark poll
Pill
shapiro pack sounds fire
Shapiro pack
stan has gunned down an innocent
I was brutally murdered...
???
Me smoking the Shapiro pack
The hell

So why am I in a poll...?
It's a poll to decide on a method of execution

by food poisoning
Death by tummy hurt
How do you go from Dark pill to Shapiro pack
You know what, don't answer
death by a bullet with your name engraved on it (but the name has gone through several layers of misspelling and autocorrection)
lmfao
Lemme say his name with my eyes closed on my phone
spider toe stan
Dark pull wariorr
oh were doing him
Not stan enough
It needs to be worse
im on it
darkpullwarruir
dartjkouskllk warioir
Xark pull warrier
nailed it
Xark
perfect
chicolate milk
erm what the sigma
Why are you putting chics in your milk...?
To make the milk chocolate obviously
chicolate milk
i crave scab only melee
i need 1 million damage
does auric maelstrom have a higher tension rating than normal maelstrom
You just wanna feel better buy outdpsing my knife with a fucking voidstrike against crusher packs
ys
stan virus
But I wasn't too far behind
WITHOUT UNCANNY
Wh-what...?
300k damage behind
@hard nexus more meow systematic racism
💔
You had like 900k
i had 993k
I had 600k
someone buy me nitro
With a fucking KNIFE
epic xole parrt enthusiast
okay but like
i still out damaged u
with my balanced build
asbergers
um
Like being a psyker (mentally ill)
I knew what the creature was, but, I was not prepared for that video lol
or 1 reaper
wasted point for certain players* :)
Because dodging is so last century...
you're just so good you never take any toughness damage?
It's wasted if they never dodge
But no amount of talents can help a player like that
wasted point for the bottom amount of players
its overkill
Even constant autopistol inspiring barrage spamming couldn't save that player...
its the single best toughness gen talent in the game
Youre getting hit?
and its overkill
I'll take overkill over dying
I've had a customer come in asking about how their 8 year old son wanted an "enchilatel"
And I spend 10 fucking minutes trying to find out what the fuck she meant
id rather take the 10% AS for ability generation since they nerfed multihit crits
I'll take it every fucking day of the week
just dont get hit ^_^
safe toughness generation that doesnt depend on warp kills
wait
no
300 hour gamer
Easy mistake
Enchilada?
safe toughness gen that doesnt depend on any kills
Zealot, psyker? same difference
just kill things!
That's what i thought
But they meant axolotl
u dont get that much from killing though
freakachu
if you kill enough and are near teammates and dont get hit that much it works really well
Incoming martyrdom cringe left hand of the tree build
That thing is legit scarier than my dolphin gif...
but second wind does allow you to stray away from your team and play aggressively
i have martyrdom with second wind lol
Amazing toughness that
Doesn't require kills
Doesn't require melee hits
Doesn't require ranges hits
Doesn't require ammo
Doesn't require enemies to be nearby
Expect your team to die
second wind literally hard counters the trash shooters
oh you get tapped? just dodge the next volley
My teammates are usually vertical most of the time
advice for anyone in this game lmfao
i don't feel the need to take cover that much with second wind and can just play without a care for positioning
On malice perhaps
what difficulty do you play
that in itself is a lot of power
just hit them with blades or anything that causes suppression
This is the most pro advice ever given on this channel
auric maelstrom usually
Coherency regen is irrelevant
NOT THE SUPPRESSION GAMER
uh ho suppresion and not getting hit mentioned !!
you must have some of the luckiest pugs then
Letsss goo suppression gaming
I dont pug very often, I prefer to have fun
Braced autogun sweep
then thats why
Getting carried
brauto peak
i only pug when I play with my partner because 2 can carry 4 but 1 cannot carry 3 (most of the time)
you can't NOT take some toughness damage
i love how this chat tends to come together to shit on someone as a collective
I love having inconsistent CC at the cost of ammo so I don't have to run unnecessary things like amazing survivability
oh it's the premade opinion
plus it pairs with the DR on dodge option
hi meow
i said hi bandit
I take some toughness damage but gunners aren't all that scary once you start dodge sliding
hi mao
it's not gunners, it trash shooters who will just auto fire inbetween ass slides
? why would that make you happy, terminally online opinion fr
Do you know what dodge sliding also procs
isn't it fdsoijoire and aoifdsuoaidsf?
Second wind
its funny
thats all
You'll still get nicked every now and again with the quantity you find in auric
Oh wait but second wind instantly restores that
Come duo a 3veg
For the stanification
Lets play 😈
yea I jujst dont find it necessary
See how you stand out
also procs good balance
no its still somewhat readable its more like
hi kcol;ty and hi racote
coke
Tru
coke
Post scoreboards pixie
like, only EWEW even gets close in usefulness to second wind
sure
i havent actually run ewew since patch 13 dropped
well
SCOREBoard for a toughness regen on dodge talent
What is arco doing with himself in that bed...?
actively took it*
that's fair
can I add you, im about to watch a movie, or I can just tag you once im back
mermaiding
Sure...
i am become stan
I bet that's what you tell the police...
we're all always in the chat
EWEW doesn't have the 8% anymore but it still stops you from taking hits at true 0 toughness

