#zealot-class

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spare talon
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i did say before that it requires more finesse, to get it to work you need to be in a position where you can dodge, then use invis and get the hit immediately after
im replying to this now cuz i literally just did this so i have a clip for it kys

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but its not the end of the world if you dont get it to happen tbh

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i should probably clean up my darktide video folder soon

crisp furnace
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Op….

west trench
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that thread was stupid

frosty herald
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100% a lacerate user

nimble fiber
spare talon
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lemme find it so you can read us fucking imploding

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here

crisp furnace
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The delusion

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It’s

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Majestic?

west trench
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"look at my DPS!"

frosty herald
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so im automatically assuming lacerate

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with probs the lowest team damage

crisp furnace
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He runs lacerate (bad) and mercy killer (good)

spare talon
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my brother sat down next to me for a bit as i was playing to talk to me a bit and he read a few of those screenshots that were on my second screen and he went "...what?" as i was literally using the mk3 knife lmao

crisp furnace
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But he doesn’t use heavy so what’s the point

drowsy steppe
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what will I find here

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mama Im scared

glacial stratus
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@royal vortex What do you think, can I swap Elite to +reload speed?

drowsy steppe
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'this is clearly a light attack weapon'

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yea fuck this

drowsy steppe
glacial stratus
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its for the vet btw

spare talon
drowsy steppe
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I mean use weapon spec if you want to never reload on shotguns, take volley adept if you have the spare points if you want

drowsy steppe
spare talon
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can we make this a new joke here
please god itd be so funny

modern lintel
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I try and run an auric and first crash of night immediately pain

hard nexus
spare talon
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im liking it just as much
but i definitely feel its lack of any hord clear whatsoever

hard nexus
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yeah real

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one of these days i’ll make a mk6

spare talon
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but i am able to one shot things that a previously couldnt with a mk6

hard nexus
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really?

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what bps does it reach the 6 doesn’t?

spare talon
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ive only used it today and i kinda autopilot so i cant be certain lmao
but im pretty sure gunners were one shot if it was a crit

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but idk ill need to actual compare the two

hard nexus
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i think my mk3 misses the gunner one shot by like

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30 damage

spare talon
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put on lacerate, thatll fix it

hard nexus
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lmfao

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ur so right

modern lintel
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Mk6 supremacy

spare talon
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they deal the same damage but the stab just feels better to use

dark wing
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Omnissiah wills it, I have been told to fuckin LOVE CLEAVING

ember yew
spare talon
ember yew
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im gonna be

spare talon
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Dude i was just about to say how fucking pathetic of a blessing it ks

ember yew
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assuming what certain "influental" people here said and think about it

spare talon
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And in doing so they'll axe the axes

ember yew
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taxes will still work

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but combat axes

spare talon
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Yeah I mean combat ones

ember yew
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can go and eat dirt

spare talon
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Like I like a good Rashad run every now and again for some brain off big damage

dark wing
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oh yeah I forgot I also have this knife of unending rending lmao

ember yew
spare talon
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But if bromentum gets killed in not touching them agajn

ember yew
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Backstab -> Riposte/Precog/could be Mercy Killer
Weakspot -> Flak or Elites or Maniacs or Carapace

spare talon
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I don't really vibe with mercy killer on zealot tbh

dark wing
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about that lmao

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I got some work to do

ember yew
spare talon
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THIS BITCH BROKE

dark wing
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I don't like the knives!

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I need my melee weapons BIG AND MEATY

spare talon
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But either way it's good to keep in mind

dark wing
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and full of teeth or thunderous power

ember yew
spare talon
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And I need my melee weapon to enable my goblin tendencies

dark wing
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oh this is less zealot-specific and more a general question for some wqeapon behaviour.

Does Full Bore work with the agripinaa's slug shot?

ember yew
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@spare taloni also been running riposte + mercy killer, with 95% crit it's the same as using that Vet passive

spare talon
# ember yew Its pretty good, as this is a constant DPS increase (assuming the situation with...

In higher difficulties it's very rare for not a single enemy to be attack you tbf
Plus precog scales higher, and can also work on the first hit, the only realistic way you're getting MK active is if you crit them, and most enemies would have died if precog was active by that point
I do get what you're saying but I simply think precog is just more universally applicable considering the kind of weapon knife is

tight fog
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Id basically swap BM to shred on combat axe if they nerf it

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It'll probably still rock big time

spare talon
dark wing
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ohohohoh

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splendid

spare talon
tight fog
dark wing
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then here's this monster I've been just falling in love with more and more

spare talon
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Like have you actually used a combat axe without it in damnation or auric

ember yew
spare talon
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Shits fucking miserable

spare talon
tight fog
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Not for ages but it wouldn't be so bad on Antax

ember yew
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More people will switch to knifes or tactical axes in that case

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Hsword probably will still be fine, though weaker with Headtaker + Rampage

spare talon
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That's the combo I've used and it's literally still a heavy sword

ember yew
undone fulcrum
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LAST FUCKING SECOND

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17 %

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lets go

hollow dove
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Kant on release was something special

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Sniping gunners from 70m away.. fire shot through walls to help teammates with their dog related issues

dark wing
stone fern
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its never too late to start gambling

buoyant pewter
versed turtle
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Fuck mobility ig

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Dump stat anyways smh

royal flicker
fleet zealot
buoyant pewter
royal flicker
fleet zealot
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And it’s a reoccurring buff if you don’t get at least one weakspot hit during the timer (while in combat ofc) you are playing the weapon wrong

surreal shore
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wguys

fleet zealot
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It’s not hard lmao

surreal shore
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i got a question

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is ghost worth using

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on kantrael 12?

fleet zealot
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Just move your mouse up and down

buoyant pewter
surreal shore
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if so should i pair it with deadly accurate

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or headhunter?

fleet zealot
buoyant pewter
royal flicker
buoyant pewter
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No mouse

fleet zealot
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Use the mkia or las pistol

fleet zealot
royal flicker
fleet zealot
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It’s all vertical

buoyant pewter
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One big thing I’ve had to work on is generally leaving my aim at head height, as I’m much quicker to aim center mass

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That’s just my resting height

fleet zealot
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The height ranged difference for 95% of a match is groaner height to crusher height which isn’t even that much

buoyant pewter
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Might just make my character taller

fleet zealot
buoyant pewter
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Can someone send me the ideal crusher? Wanna know what I should be shooting for

fleet zealot
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And uncanny attacks fast

royal flicker
fleet zealot
buoyant pewter
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So like elites maniac flak unyielding?

fleet zealot
fleet zealot
royal flicker
left iron
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Whats the benefit of a player taking a blessing teaching them bad habits instead of learning?

royal flicker
fleet zealot
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This line of thinking just goes, well i’ll benefit most from haymaker since i spam heavies into chest

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I don’t think purposefully bad players should be catered to, they should be encouraged to improve and get better, not have their playstyles validated

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If you come into this chat, i recommend what is best

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If you say you can’t make use of it, i’m going to tell you how to use it better

buoyant pewter
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Damn how did this end up calling me bad 😭

fleet zealot
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End of story, if you want your own playstyle you can continue playing it

fleet zealot
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Specifically

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I do know xbox has issues

buoyant pewter
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I like to think I’m pretty decent for an Xbox player

fleet zealot
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Where you have gyro controls

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Tho it’s unnecessary

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And will take some money and time learning

buoyant pewter
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Sorry, I’m playing a mission so my responses might be slow

visual stream
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The deadpool and wolverine controllers are better for competitive play tbh

buoyant pewter
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Carried another team thru an auric, actually felt very flattered abt it cuz someone asked me for my build lol

buoyant pewter
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I just use a standard one

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Tbh it would definitely help to have one with like the pads on the back so I can use blades of faith with my index or middle rather than my thumb

fleet zealot
buoyant pewter
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Oh okay

fleet zealot
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Idk if xbox supports it officially even

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But lets you physically move your controller to help with precise movements

buoyant pewter
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Oh nice

acoustic dune
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What if vet explode like psychedelic every time he goes down

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With unused grenade on him

north sedge
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is it an lsd grenade?

polar trellis
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Should I go for bolt pistol or bolt gun? I rarely ever use my secondary weapon, I just want to pull it out every now and then to focus fire a big thing

faint cape
storm elm
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How're we feelin' about this

hard nexus
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if u wanna use it ads more often than not then switch calvacade, or if you wanna hipfire switch surgical

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zealot dance of death makes the hipfire very accurate

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also swap ranged weakspot to

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uhh

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flak prolly

storm elm
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Oooo I'm torn
Still doing the Stealth penances so I'm not shooting a lot, but I'm ADS when I do
On the other hand, I'm not going to run the Stealth build when I'm done; I'm gonna go back to FotF berserker mode, so I'm tempted to plan ahead and switch Surgical out for Shattering Impact IV

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Aaah it doesn't matter, locks are coming off anyway

rocky marsh
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is this josho's pfp

frosty herald
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Yuppers

buoyant pewter
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Upgrade time

hollow coral
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Anyone willing to share some good Zealot builds?

acoustic dune
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Wanna give it a gogo

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?

viral dagger
hollow coral
hollow coral
acoustic dune
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Here's my go to knife

tranquil pier
hollow coral
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thanks

vestal pine
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what did i miss

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lacerate it seems

shadow sleet
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What blessings should i use on the hammer to 1 Tap a boss?

buoyant pewter
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Y’all think the emperor is a yolo swag kinda dude

vestal pine
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  • headtaker or slaughterer
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genuinely though, unelss you just murdered a pack of enemies headtaker is better for pure boss damage, and even then its marginal at times

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thrust does the hardlift

shadow sleet
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tyvm

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i assume trauma and hammerblow are crap in comparison

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and the Mk2 is better right?

hard nexus
hollow coral
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what would you use then?

hard nexus
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hang on

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@hollow coral

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uncanny precognition knife

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you can swap the chorus for charge or stealth

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cole is here to correct my build

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hi cole

spare talon
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And yeah the crucis is the one you want if you're specifically going for boss one shots

spare talon
# hard nexus

I'm not a book man myself but considering knife is now the best ability spam weapon, I have no issues with it, everything looks good

hard nexus
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to be fair i haven’t run the build in forever

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and id probably swap for charge anyway

shadow sleet
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ty

coral rapids
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pulls out way too slow so i use double barreled shotgun
gives doom vibes 😎

shadow sleet
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anyone have a good hammer build?

hard nexus
spare talon
hard nexus
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yay

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approval

spare talon
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Or momentum

hard nexus
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momentum is stinky

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i like tank maxxing

spare talon
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You're stinky

hard nexus
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(i say when my hammer build has minimal TDR)

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i really should remake my hammer build

spare dome
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u cant be stinky when ur too fast to leave stink

hard nexus
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erm

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i smell u from here

spare dome
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too bad im already gone bye

drifting wolf
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what does it smell like

hard nexus
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stink

spare dome
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i think stan said i would smell of lemongrass

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i forget what herb

drifting wolf
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u smell like the adventure time character?

shadow sleet
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im still not able to 1 shot a boss even with thrust and headtaker

hard nexus
hard nexus
spare talon
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Well I see a lack of 25% unyielding right there

hard nexus
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also true

shadow sleet
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ok 2 shot or 3 shot or 4 shot

hard nexus
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carapace isn’t good on hammer unless u run marytrdom and duelist

drifting wolf
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can it 2 shot bosses

shadow sleet
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it takes about 5 shots or more

hard nexus
shadow sleet
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yes

hard nexus
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uhm

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idk

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are u hitting weak spots

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ur damage stat is kinda low

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probably a contributor

shadow sleet
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yes

hard nexus
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hrm

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idk

spare talon
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Boss thammers are probably one of the most grueling things to make in the game

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Cuz everything has to be perfect

shadow sleet
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seems like it

spare talon
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Every dip in a stat or perk dramatically affects the final number

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Cuz it's literally just stacking so many big buffs that the number just becomes massive

shadow sleet
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i thought they would have fixed the hammers after all the patches

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the last time i used one was a year ago

spare talon
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But the lower the starting number or lower the multipliers, the significantly lower the final result

shadow sleet
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im thinking of maybe now trying out a knife again

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martydom or momentum? which is better for the knife?

spare talon
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Momentum and piety

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I'm personally on the side of piety

north sedge
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your dmg is dumped on that hammer

spare talon
viral dagger
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antax or rashad?

sterile basalt
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That Antax’s 40% first target basically makes it unusable

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The Rashad roll isn’t particularly great either

buoyant pewter
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Bro these headphones

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They make this game sound like actual war

spare talon
viral dagger
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TY for the input chads i am new to the true itemization endgame

sterile basalt
buoyant pewter
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I keep getting really shitty ones. Is this workable or a Womp Womp

north sedge
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its fine

fleet zealot
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def workable lol

buoyant pewter
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Okay cool

north sedge
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that crusher is solid yea

fleet zealot
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activated attacks on crushers are just your opener to a fight or to clear shit off you,

buoyant pewter
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Oh okay

spare talon
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"Do you have this cat food in a sample bag?"
???????????
Ma'am you are holding a 6 dollar bag of the bottom of the barrel dirt cheap cat food

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My shift just started, man

hard nexus
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man

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kill her

misty nova
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Not yet

ivory marlin
arctic fiber
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Does Overpressure improve dot damage after the flamethrower buffs in the last patch? Or still just Blaze Away?

north sedge
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just blaze

ornate bone
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general chat, I come bearing gifts

north sedge
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why are you rayman

rough galleon
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The warp truly is perilous

shadow sleet
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What blessings do i want on the knife again?

ornate bone
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I have finally achieved the status of sigmar male

quaint verge
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avoid the flood

shadow sleet
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ty

nimble fiber
ornate bone
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Riposte and precog is pretty interesting for zealot due to the high crit chance you can get with scourge and piety, as well as stacking it with duelist

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It does make you rely heavily on dodging attacks, but when it procs it's a lawnmower

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Alternatively, uncanny strike and judgement is a solid alternative because it relies less on crits while still having them quite often through scourge and riposte

hushed knoll
hushed knoll
viral dagger
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do we like the crusher?

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weapon that is

north sedge
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its very good

hushed knoll
hushed knoll
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Ew

vestal pine
buoyant pewter
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Why uncanny over ruthless on knife?

north sedge
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Uncanny is up all the time regardless of position, ruthless is backstab only

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Uncanny also buffs throwing knives if you're using em

buoyant pewter
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Ahhh right

shadow sleet
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good or bad knife?

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just tried it in auric damnation

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pretty underwhelming

quaint verge
viral dagger
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thoughts

shadow sleet
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very nice

viral dagger
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need more plasteel but atleast got maniac damage?

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either gonna rebless x2 into BM and HT

spare talon
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Good, but 2 of the important stats are a little low, but not enough to suddenly stop being good

spare talon
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Just don't know why discord didn't do that initially lol

viral dagger
nimble fiber
hard nexus
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picked up 328 ammo

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using a fucking

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kickback

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id see him shoot like

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a single bruiser

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constantly

zinc talon
vestal pine
hard nexus
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yeah he fucking sucked though

zinc talon
vestal pine
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ho2 do you suck with a singleshot shotgun that can usually 2shot anyrhing it points

zinc talon
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By not pointing it center mass of entire packs but center mass of individual enemies

spare talon
zinc talon
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He's prolly using it like a smol's shotgun

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And the ammo 'cost'so to speak of how many shots he gets back for a tin of ammo vs how many another class or gun would get

hard nexus
zinc talon
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Means he's super duper wasting ammo

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I betcha he would've skated under the radar if the team had had a vet with ammo regen

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But in a normal ammo economy yeah lol ^that shit is obnoxious

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Vet ammo regen is bigly yuge for rumbler/kicky/gauntlet because the game has to give you at least one shot per regen

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But on say a stubber the amount you gwt back is a lot less than the guns that only have 20 rounds total, by % of ammo given

hard nexus
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328 shots

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on a what

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58 shot gun?

zinc talon
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Good god I came in late and missed that part

hard nexus
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yeah scroll up

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i posted the leaderboard

hard nexus
royal vortex
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they changed the ammo return calculation on survivalist in patch 13 so that it stores the value of your ammo as a percentage when you get an elite/specialist kill with a weapon that has <100 reserve

zinc talon
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Mister squares I assume?

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Christ

hard nexus
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wha

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oh

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yeah

zinc talon
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The guy whose name is 3 squarss

royal vortex
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it no longer disproportionately refunds higher ammo to low ammo reserve weapons

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on top of the 5 second cooldown between activations

frosty herald
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1 ammo on bolter

hard nexus
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(and i’m the one that did best obviously)

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hair flip

native cargo
frosty herald
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arguably survivalist was gutted so much its just useless

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and used as the fastest way to get focus fire

zinc talon
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still has its place, it's just event or map specific

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it's still a godsend on twins for example

frosty herald
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yeah

royal vortex
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it takes its place among every other aura as being an insignificant stat buff

frosty herald
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but 1 ammo on bolter its bleh

zinc talon
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Whatd it used to give?

frosty herald
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i thonk either 5 or 3 ammo

zinc talon
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That's wild considering ammo is cemented at 95 rounds no matter what

frosty herald
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so without the cooldown it stacked quite nicely

royal vortex
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reserve is now 100 instead of 80

zinc talon
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Derp u rite u rite

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I'm still so high-school sweetheart about my sister of battle bolt pistol I haven't gone back to the workhorse yet

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I know it could be better and the playerbase prolly hasn't had enough time to suss out universal blessing/perk combos for the pistol yet

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But goddamn if they'd let me hold the bolt pistol in one hand and the assault chainsw9rd or chain axe in the other I would never use another loadout again

hard nexus
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what if there was custom weapon specialist animations

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for that

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certain weapons would be held duel wielded

quaint verge
hard nexus
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hate,

quaint verge
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A vet on my team

vast basin
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Yikes

frosty herald
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so why cant the bolter chainsword combo

quaint verge
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And he let me die, when he had his stealth ult ready

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Right next to me

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Fighting a singular bulwark

spare talon
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That's the bare minimum

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This still sucks but God it's still better than 80% of what most knives you see out there

hard nexus
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peak

ornate bone
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Y'know

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The weirdest part is that crit damage actually is bad for lacerate + flesh tearer

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Because they're stacking bleed

tranquil pier
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Arthur pogryn

ornate bone
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And perks affect that

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And if their goal is to deal bleed damage, they actually shouldn't be perking crit

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anyway I shat your pants

fleet zealot
spare talon
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What???????

fleet zealot
spare talon
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No lacerate user would know that tho

spare talon
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They're too busy reveling in their less than mediocre damage

north sedge
spare talon
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actually run n gun and terrifying barrage are the best combination for the zarona revolver, they give you more options on how to handle situations, either on the move to avoid damage as you are in combat, or by preventing them from from shooting to begin with

ornate bone
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honestly quite true bestie honestly quite true bestie honestly quite true bestie honestly quite true bestie

viral dagger
fleet zealot
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bit low pen and no flak hurts but otherwise it's aight

zinc talon
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oh is penetration

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huh

quaint verge
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So it's worse when you think about it

fleet zealot
zinc talon
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but shouty's belief makes it into an axe

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because nobody wants to argue with her about it

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so it's an axe

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I pair that axe with these when I run jobs with people I don't like but are in the same friends orbit

rough galleon
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Brick time

shy onyx
# zinc talon

You couldn’t even piece skin with it that’s a squeaky hammer except axe

zinc talon
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Ha

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and the guns are actually nerf dart guns

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I need to get a 0% thunder hammer now, thank you for my next unicorn buy

spare talon
spare talon
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Let me unironically use a basic ass 🔨

spare talon
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Let the special be using the back part as a hook pull like the pickaxe for a combo starter

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Like a weaker folding shovel donk and yank with 2 instances of damage, but it's also a pull with a unique attack after like the picks

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Not as strong as both ofc but it does both and faster

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That's be cool

fleet zealot
humble orchid
fleet zealot
spare talon
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Big head mode

zinc talon
ivory marlin
median steeple
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the screamer

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no matter the timeline sektor is still smug

summer moth
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brutal momentun on rashad?

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or naw

modern lintel
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Yes

vast basin
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Gee the best blessing in the game on Rashad? Hmm I wonder

spare talon
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I just spent 20 minutes painfully attempting to help someone reset their password for their account so they could login while running a register

rich remnant
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This a decent bolt or is the rating too low?

spare talon
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Can I just quit working forever and become a neet

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That sounds much more preferable

obsidian prairie
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Just aqquire a crippling disability and hope the American government actually decides to give you that money they promised

spare talon
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I think it does

obsidian prairie
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The government does not sadly

spare talon
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How to develop schizophrenia real 2024 Punjabi no virus

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Wait this isn't google

rich remnant
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Or is surgical not really that great to run on zealot

spare talon
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I've not played enough with bolt weapons to know what good stats and perks are

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But surgical deadly accurate exists on the boltpistol

obsidian prairie
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Surgical is fine on zealot

spare talon
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And that's 1 of the 2 good combos on it

obsidian prairie
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Deadly accurate is a bit of a bonus

rich remnant
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I rolled this bolt pistol with glory hunter and surgical and the stats seem good jw if it’s worth the ordo

obsidian prairie
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If you want one yeah

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Gloryhunter to DA and reload to whatever gives breakpoints

spare talon
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Mobility being low is always fine
I don't think collateral matters too much

shy river
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be a speed freak and use run n gun/glory hunter or (meme pick) lethal proximity

obsidian prairie
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You actually want it low on some weapons

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I consider it a better dump than mobility

shrewd minnow
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Which should I buy? Both seem REALLY tempting

vast basin
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I wouldn't buy either KEKW_ogryn

obsidian prairie
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Unless you have DA 4 I would grab the Bistol and rip it

spare talon
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That's 1/4 for both, with goodish stats for both

obsidian prairie
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Dumped stopping power on the shotgun is unfortunate

shrewd minnow
#

I have zero god rolls at this point, so even a good-ish means I can finally switch up my loadouts more

spare talon
#

Tho the DB stopping is def a yikes

spare talon
obsidian prairie
#

I would only consider the bolt pistol

shrewd minnow
#

pistol is seeming like the best option, since it's both good AND it has a highly desired blessing

shrewd minnow
spare talon
#

If you buy an okay weapon with your only currency, then the best godroll might show up on the next day and you're SOL

obsidian prairie
#

The great thing about rolling bolt pistols is that they only truly need 1 stat to work

spare talon
#

I personally would only buy stuff from melk if it's insanely good or has a blessing you want

obsidian prairie
#

Reload speed is optional, your recoil is already fucking insane, collateral is worse than mobility

#

I think zealot could probably do 2-3 shot crusher with crits

#

No idea though

shrewd minnow
#

I run a crit build zealot, so the 90% crit weak spot bonus is most of why it's calling to me

spare talon
obsidian prairie
spare talon
#

Since crit chance is additive

#

So the 1 second you spend aiming will give you 30-40% on top of you're like what 30% base with piety active

obsidian prairie
#

+5 base and +4 from that perk

spare talon
#

Tho I will say
If you're going down this route

#

A revolver is just gonna do the job better

shrewd minnow
#

I have enough hours on revolver at this point

obsidian prairie
#

Yeah but Zarona is boring

#

And bolt pistol feels like it deserves it’s fucked damage

spare talon
#

Jarvis play that clip of me hitting a dog 3 times wjth a boltpistol and it doesn't flinch

obsidian prairie
#

If you are unmodded I would recommend getting mods and Weapon Customization to stick a real optic on that thing because it’s irons suck

buoyant pewter
#

Should I go flakiac for crusher

#

Or something else

placid fiber
buoyant pewter
#

2 down

#

2 to go that I will probably never do

spare talon
buoyant pewter
#

Hmmmm

spare talon
#

There aren't any BPs that matter

buoyant pewter
#

I’m thinking either flakiac or flak unyielding

#

How good is crusher against monsters?

vast basin
#

Not great. It will kill them, but its no TH or Caxe

#

And yes, flakiac for crusher

buoyant pewter
#

Okay, then probably maniac then.

hushed knoll
#

Ok this is so true. I love these sandwiches

delicate shadow
#

those better not be doritos

obsidian prairie
#

Thats doritos

spare dome
#

no its a sandwich

spare talon
#

Okokok

#

I will admit stan is half correct

#

Putting chips in a basic sandwich to give it a crunch sometimes goes hard as fuck

hushed knoll
spare talon
#

Ok but not that

obsidian prairie
buoyant pewter
#

Just noticed I only have 96 penances left until I’m 100%

#

Kinda wild

stable cypress
buoyant pewter
#

What are the preferred blessings on evis 15

#

Rn I have rampage and shred

obsidian prairie
#

Cleave blessings do basically nothing so rampage and shred

buoyant pewter
#

Oh okay neat

#

Too bad my perks are duds

#

Well one of them at least

#

I’ll have to wait til the update to get rid of my…. shudder crit chance

obsidian prairie
#

Crit chance is kind of ok

buoyant pewter
#

Really?

obsidian prairie
#

Not the worst you could do

buoyant pewter
#

I mean yeah

obsidian prairie
#

Its better than block efficency

buoyant pewter
#

I could’ve gotten infested or groaners

obsidian prairie
#

You can hit 60% crit with t4 shred and +5 crit, just with shred stacks and piety

#

90% with scourge

#

sorry 55% and 85%

#

I can remember numbers

buoyant pewter
obsidian prairie
#

I was being sarcastic

buoyant pewter
#

What are some other weps I should go for that like, scream “zealot”. I’ll probably get most of them eventually anyway, but was curious if y’all had any ideas

obsidian prairie
#

Get a mk2 laspistol

buoyant pewter
#

Okay

obsidian prairie
#

Infernus Dum Dum Unyielding and whatever

buoyant pewter
#

Oh sweet okay

obsidian prairie
#

On any build where you take knives and have shitty boss damage, take the laspistol

buoyant pewter
#

It good against bosses?

obsidian prairie
#

Works best with FotF and full auto mod

obsidian prairie
grizzled wave
#

Worth it for melk bucks?

obsidian prairie
#

I can regularly pump 30k plus damage by just using FotF for the 25% fire rate and just holding left click for like 2-3 magazines

austere grail
#

Naw you can roll a better pen stat yourself

obsidian prairie
buoyant pewter
obsidian prairie
#

you are 2/4 so just consecrate than swap whatever perk you get for Hand Cannon and Crit damage for whatever gives important breakpoints

#

Pen doesn't really matter with surgical hand cannon

grizzled wave
#

Also melk has this sword. I can get one or the other?

obsidian prairie
#

rending goes brrrrrr

austere grail
#

I guess it still probably non crit one shots trappers which is all you need

buoyant pewter
stable cypress
#

wait you're not giving sire milk the suck n fuck wtfgryn

obsidian prairie
#

Wrath to Deathblow and stamina to Flak

buoyant pewter
grizzled wave
obsidian prairie
#

Heavy Swords are very good at horde and mixed horde, and postively mulch elites

#

Their only problem is carapace damage

grizzled wave
#

Usually play ogryn or vet

delicate shadow
obsidian prairie
#

The weapon special does more damage to cara than its heavies

delicate shadow
obsidian prairie
#

But if you get up against more than 2 crushers, your only real option is to fucking pray and start dancing your heart out

grizzled wave
#

What ranged weapon pairs well with that melee weapon? And uh im guessing the charge ability?

delicate shadow
obsidian prairie
#

Generally anything that can snipe

fleet zealot
obsidian prairie
#

alternatively if you take Blades of Faith, a mk2 laspistol

obsidian prairie
placid fiber
# fleet zealot

It awaits in its abode... for an unsuspecting victim to happen upon it...

#

Or... u know... snack time...

grizzled wave
obsidian prairie
#

Yeah but I hate the Zarona

grizzled wave
#

Kinda wanna try the bolt pistol for laughs but I know it’s uh… meh

obsidian prairie
#

I think its pretty good

#

A (fair) bit harder to aim, but more ammo, stagger, and supression

left iron
obsidian prairie
acoustic dune
buoyant pewter
#

Got 2 build related questions. Would a crusher build look similar to an evis build? Additionally, what should I do for a relic build? Thinking flamer and something else, but haven’t gotten that far.

hushed agate
#

Meta used to be fotf but range boost got removed

#

Invis works too ig but i dont think it really complements it like chorus does

#

But thats irrelevant

#

For crusher?

#

P much the same.

buoyant pewter
hushed agate
#

Ye crusher and evis

buoyant pewter
#

Oh okay bet

#

So I’ll make a build that can interchange those two, then I need to fine tune my relic build, then I should have all the builds I need, with a free slot for testing

hushed agate
#

Whats your build for evis look like?

buoyant pewter
hushed agate
#

OhKEKW_ogryn

buoyant pewter
#

A build I mean

#

Rn I have a shroud field knife revolver build, the makings of a relic flamer build, and a thammer build

spare talon
# buoyant pewter Really?

It's like in the midway of good and bad
Crit chance is pretty good in general
But at 5%? That's almost nothing

#

But that's still more crit chance
So it's better than like half of the perks
But the other half of perks just do more for you

buoyant pewter
#

At best

#

Disappointing at worst

spare talon
#

Exactly

buoyant pewter
#

Just took a recording of my relic build just waiting for it to upload. While I wait I’m gonna start putting together a FOTF build for evis and crusher.

#

I find that I haven’t really used momentum for anything, and I wonder why tbh

spare talon
#

I personally like momentum for crusher

#

Just feels right

buoyant pewter
#

Oh okay then, maybe I’ll use it for this build then.

spare talon
#

Tbh if it's a finesse weapon I'm always on piety
If it's not, I use momentum
Crusher is an exception cuz it's kinda both but momentum just feels better for it as a two hander, plus the dodge dist/speed/regen buffs help it

buoyant pewter
#

For relic

#

Essentially my “forgive my teammates for how bad they suck” build

grizzled wave
#

Bricked?

buoyant pewter
#

Imo

#

But don’t listen to me

hushed agate
#

Nah youre right thats pretty bad

ivory marlin
buoyant pewter
#

Pls give tips

hushed agate
#

Bleed on crit?

#

Why

buoyant pewter
#

I didn’t really know what else to take

obsidian prairie
#

Desperation

#

Crusher has good PA spam

buoyant pewter
#

Oh okay

#

Done

hushed agate
#

Take off backstab and bleed on crit put it in to gun damage up close and infested/unyielding damage is what i would do

buoyant pewter
#

Probably not a bad idea

#

I have a lot of stam anyway

spare talon
#

You'll regularly hit 0 with the crusher, and the damage bonus lasts 5 seconds from the moment you stop being at 0

crisp furnace
#

Why waste points getting immos

#

No second wind no twbs

uneven horizon
#

second wind is generally a wasted point too

limber kayak
#

nothing beyond the abyss challenge is hard does anyone have any tips im 23/25 on it and just cant seem to do it

spare talon
# buoyant pewter

The coherency one in the top middle isn't that great for zealot cuz their coherency regen is paused during melee combat
Also martyrs retribution is freshly squirted shit, it's genuinely terrible, it's 1% if your ability restored per 1% of health lost, which basically means if you go from full hp to 1 health, that's 1 single ability

crisp furnace
spare talon
placid fiber
#

^

#

Is that the one above twbs?

#

I can't remember for sure, cuz I'm dumb

spare talon
#

Second wind is toughness on dodge

placid fiber
#

Wow... that is such bait lol

limber kayak
#

any tips for nothing beyond the abyss challange ?

placid fiber
#

Even the one that reduces spread by 75% on dodge isn't useless... I've had that talent come in clutch quite a few times

buoyant pewter
crisp furnace
south folio
#

abyss should be pretty easy though it helps to proc it in the right situation
if you have a hordeclear melee, just proc it during a horde and whack them and so on

placid fiber
# crisp furnace .

I mean I take twbs on my marty build, despite not having enough for second wind

#

Not getting stunned from melee hits alone comes in clutch so many times, it's not even funny

crisp furnace
#

With the crusher it is mandatory

placid fiber
#

That's the most annoying thing about playing vet, even as an almost pure melee vet... you get stunned on melee hits

crisp furnace
#

And honestly I would be happy if it was part of zealot as a class

placid fiber
#

It would help make zealot feel a lot more unique as a class if it was a base, but, it might be a bit powerful as a base though

spare talon
placid fiber
#

I mean sure you got faster stamina regen and such... but no melee hit stuns is so fucking good

spare talon
#

And I love it

placid fiber
#

There's always that 1 asshole that somehow gets through your dodge/pushes

crisp furnace
#

Same with with suppression immunity on vet

placid fiber
frosty herald
#

Vet has supression immunity extra ammo as a base kit

#

Zealot abyss and stun immunity

spare talon
frosty herald
#

Ogryn stun immunity stagger boost

#

Psyker dodge distance and movement speed

placid fiber
buoyant pewter
#

Should be even MORE survivability

frosty herald
#

Dodges once

misty nova
buoyant pewter
#

I will, ideally, be unkillable

frosty herald
#

Falls off the ledge instantly

placid fiber
#

^

buoyant pewter
placid fiber
#

Wouldn't that give force swords 5 dodges? lol

#

I mean with how squishy psykers are when shit hits the fan... I could see them getting an extra dodge to help mitigate that

#

Even Veterans feel more tanky than psykers... :/

obsidian prairie
#

Well yeah

buoyant pewter
#

Tbf psykers have an insane kit to mitigate being put in a sticky situation

obsidian prairie
#

Iron will

#

Veterans have access to the single highest source of TDR in the game

placid fiber
placid fiber
#

The pressure you feel under high duress feels much higher on the psyker, from my experience... but I main zealot

#

I mean I've pulled off clutches as the psyker, and the psyker's kit allows for some amazing clutching capabilities... but it is fairly specialized

#

That dueling sword mk 4 is spicy

#

Definitely is my favorite of the dueling swords

obsidian prairie
hushed knoll
#

Shapiro pack

#

God dammit

#

Dark poll

#

Pill

nimble fiber
#

shapiro pack sounds fire

north sedge
#

Shapiro pack

south folio
#

stan has gunned down an innocent

placid fiber
placid fiber
hushed knoll
spare talon
hushed knoll
placid fiber
spare talon
quaint verge
#

by food poisoning

spare talon
#

Death by tummy hurt

misty nova
#

How do you go from Dark pill to Shapiro pack
You know what, don't answer

hard nexus
#

death by sex

#

!

south folio
#

death by a bullet with your name engraved on it (but the name has gone through several layers of misspelling and autocorrection)

hard nexus
#

lmfao

spare talon
#

Lemme say his name with my eyes closed on my phone

hard nexus
#

spider toe stan

placid fiber
#

x.x

spare talon
#

Dark pull wariorr

hard nexus
#

oh were doing him

spare talon
#

Not stan enough

hard nexus
#

darkpollwarrioer

#

darkpollwarrior

spare talon
#

It needs to be worse

hard nexus
#

im on it

nimble fiber
#

darkpullwarruir

hard nexus
#

dartjkouskllk warioir

spare talon
#

Xark pull warrier

hard nexus
#

poerfect

#

pers

placid fiber
hard nexus
#

prect

#

perefec

#

pretrfx

#

percct

spare talon
#

Xark

hard nexus
#

perfect

nimble fiber
#

chicolate milk

hard nexus
#

erm what the sigma

placid fiber
spare talon
placid fiber
hard nexus
#

i crave scab only melee

#

i need 1 million damage

#

does auric maelstrom have a higher tension rating than normal maelstrom

fleet zealot
spare talon
#

You just wanna feel better buy outdpsing my knife with a fucking voidstrike against crusher packs

hard nexus
#

ys

hard nexus
#

exactly that

#

hi banit

#

bndi

#

ghadnit

#

badnti

#

bgandit

#

bandit

fleet zealot
spare talon
#

But I wasn't too far behind
WITHOUT UNCANNY

placid fiber
hard nexus
spare talon
#

@hard nexus more meow systematic racism

hard nexus
#

💔

spare talon
hard nexus
#

i had 993k

spare talon
#

I had 600k

hard nexus
#

someone buy me nitro

spare talon
#

With a fucking KNIFE

nimble fiber
#

epic xole parrt enthusiast

hard nexus
#

i still out damaged u

#

with my balanced build

south folio
#

asbergers

hard nexus
#

thats totally not busted whatsoever

#

my build that totally has weaknesses

#

like

#

uh

hard nexus
#

um

spare talon
hard nexus
#

no

#

the weakness is

#

2 gunners will kill me

placid fiber
hard nexus
#

or 1 reaper

uneven horizon
placid fiber
#

Because dodging is so last century...

hard nexus
spare talon
fleet zealot
uneven horizon
placid fiber
hard nexus
#

its the single best toughness gen talent in the game

hushed agate
uneven horizon
placid fiber
#

I'll take overkill over dying

spare talon
uneven horizon
placid fiber
uneven horizon
hard nexus
#

wait

#

no

crisp furnace
#

300 hour gamer

hard nexus
#

im stupid

#

getting mixed with psyker sry

#

but

placid fiber
#

Easy mistake

hard nexus
#

safe toughness gen that doesnt depend on any kills

placid fiber
uneven horizon
spare talon
hard nexus
uneven horizon
crisp furnace
placid fiber
south folio
#

but second wind does allow you to stray away from your team and play aggressively

hard nexus
#

i have martyrdom with second wind lol

spare talon
fleet zealot
#

second wind literally hard counters the trash shooters

#

oh you get tapped? just dodge the next volley

uneven horizon
hard nexus
south folio
#

i don't feel the need to take cover that much with second wind and can just play without a care for positioning

crisp furnace
hard nexus
south folio
#

that in itself is a lot of power

uneven horizon
placid fiber
uneven horizon
crisp furnace
#

Coherency regen is irrelevant

fleet zealot
uneven horizon
hard nexus
hushed agate
#

Letsss goo suppression gaming

uneven horizon
hard nexus
#

oh

#

yeah

hushed agate
#

Braced autogun sweep

hard nexus
#

then thats why

crisp furnace
#

Getting carried

hard nexus
uneven horizon
#

i only pug when I play with my partner because 2 can carry 4 but 1 cannot carry 3 (most of the time)

fleet zealot
hard nexus
spare talon
#

I love having inconsistent CC at the cost of ammo so I don't have to run unnecessary things like amazing survivability

south folio
#

oh it's the premade opinion

fleet zealot
#

plus it pairs with the DR on dodge option

hard nexus
#

oih i forgot to say hi

#

hi cole

#

hi arco

south folio
#

hi meow

hard nexus
#

i said hi bandit

uneven horizon
fleet zealot
hard nexus
#

i said hi 2 u earlier n u didnt say it back

#

u HATEEE me

fleet zealot
#

it's not gunners, it trash shooters who will just auto fire inbetween ass slides

uneven horizon
crisp furnace
#

Do you know what dodge sliding also procs

placid fiber
crisp furnace
#

Second wind

hard nexus
#

thats all

spare talon
crisp furnace
#

Come duo a 3veg

placid fiber
hard nexus
#

Lets play 😈

uneven horizon
crisp furnace
#

See how you stand out

fleet zealot
#

also procs good balance

hard nexus
spare talon
hard nexus
#

hi kcol;ty and hi racote

south folio
#

coke

placid fiber
south folio
#

coke

crisp furnace
#

Post scoreboards pixie

fleet zealot
#

like, only EWEW even gets close in usefulness to second wind

uneven horizon
#

sure

hard nexus
#

well

fleet zealot
#

SCOREBoard for a toughness regen on dodge talent

placid fiber
hard nexus
#

actively took it*

fleet zealot
uneven horizon
#

can I add you, im about to watch a movie, or I can just tag you once im back

south folio
placid fiber
south folio
#

i am become stan

placid fiber
#

I bet that's what you tell the police...

hard nexus
fleet zealot
#

EWEW doesn't have the 8% anymore but it still stops you from taking hits at true 0 toughness