#zealot-class

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frozen glen
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because youve only mentioned one instance

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cole

south folio
coarse birch
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man thats good

south folio
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three deranged messages in a row

drowsy steppe
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the most 'men' take I ever heard

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and its from EXHILIOUS

south folio
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of course it is

drowsy steppe
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men

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🙄

south folio
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m*n

nimble fiber
coarse birch
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its always m**

drowsy steppe
obsidian prairie
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What do I do with this?

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I'm assuming just switch perks

coarse birch
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BM to like

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HT probably

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uh perks take your pick

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taxe 4 cant use BM

obsidian prairie
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Why not?

visual stream
coarse birch
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its heavy is an uppercut into an overhead and the lights also dont really have an animation to proc BM

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and youd probably need to go out of your way to oneshot stuff

spare talon
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at some point ill need to use all my emperors gifts to add to my sticker book

obsidian prairie
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Also the heavies kind of look like shit

coarse birch
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its probably the worse melee weapon in the game

obsidian prairie
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Like light spamming a crusher is faster to kill

coarse birch
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it has quite literally nothing going for ut

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those overhead heavies are the exact same as every other taxe heavy with a worse animation

spare talon
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the one thing i just want to know is if the tiers matter
like if a tier 2 of a blessing counts as more than a tier 1
or if both the tier 1 and tier 2 both count as individuals and having both is better

modern lintel
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Maybe im odd for it but only tac axe i fuck w is the mk2

coarse birch
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its a sweep damage profile attached to a strikedown animation

nimble fiber
spare talon
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the taxe i fuck with is the evasion one

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uh

obsidian prairie
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Aight this is sad

nimble fiber
obsidian prairie
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WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS

coarse birch
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i like taxe 4 but i cant say i would use it

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its just bad

obsidian prairie
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Why do lights have better cara adm

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whatr the fuck

coarse birch
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the other ones are strictly better

drowsy steppe
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taxe 7 over that one

spare talon
obsidian prairie
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Ripping shred 4 this thing makes me sad

nimble fiber
obsidian prairie
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Its really fast and reaches 95% crit against single target

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but it also makes me sad

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Alright fuck it I'm rolling a rashad

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First roll

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So close

spare talon
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with this reactor

drowsy steppe
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bruiser breakpoints are important too

obsidian prairie
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Yeah I know what a rashad needs to work

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BM and bruiser oneshots

fleet zealot
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yea, zealot can skip unarmored and just pump from talents but def need flak

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taxes tho?

nimble fiber
maiden path
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I CANT KEEP MAKING THIS

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MSPAINT HURTS MY FUCKING HAND

blissful tundra
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Toughness regeneration speed, or health, or toughness for martyr.

nimble fiber
nimble fiber
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the feckin grappling hook mod

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that gives u more uses then usual

blissful tundra
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Curio secondary effect.

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One of them is gunners resitence.

fleet zealot
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for curio minors on martyrdom, you want flat toughness and flat hp, then a bit of gunner resistance, a sniper resistance if you feel like it,

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def not toughness regen speed

blissful tundra
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K.

fleet zealot
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that's just coherency regen and martyrdom gets most of it's toughness back from melee

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stam regen can be good depending on your push attack usage

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combat ability cdr is probably the least worst on martyrdom since you have no natural cdr option

visual stream
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Just take marty's purpose and damage-max with Until Death clueless

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I forget if damage taken during UD even counts for that

frozen glen
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it doesnt

maiden path
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ok my hand is cramping this is all I can do

blissful tundra
maiden path
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a new one too add to the collection

merry flume
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rather have brain rupture than purg staff

maiden path
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i couldnt think of a psyker that would be able to kill a crusher without someoen going down

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thats noti brain rupture

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should of just made it a vet plasma

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2 late now

merry flume
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i watched someone almost overheat from trying to m1 purg a dog earlier and i just alt f4

maiden path
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goated

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me af

merry flume
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being trolled by the ghost of happenstance

maiden path
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ive almost overheated trying to kill dogs

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cause THEY DONT FUCKING DIE FROM ONE UNCAHRGED SHOT

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ITS INSANE

merry flume
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it wasn't even on him

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😭

maiden path
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ITS A FUCKING DOG

merry flume
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dogs have crazy damage resist it seems

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at least during the pounce

maiden path
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they have like 500 fucking health

merry flume
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sometimes ive 2 shot a dog other times 20000000

maiden path
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i can 3 shot a mutant

merry flume
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prob high headshot modifier

maiden path
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why do I have to 2 shot a fucking dog 😭

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just let me obliterate it

merry flume
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only enemy i seriously have troubles with sometimes are scab gunners

visual stream
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This just in, worthless talent is even more worthless than it could've been

maiden path
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how u have trouble with scab gunners

merry flume
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or is it dreg

maiden path
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they got big heads

merry flume
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piss gunners

visual stream
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Really is a shame about MP not synergizing with UD though, could've at least been a fun gimmick

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Risk and reward

blissful tundra
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Sooo, i have 7 wounds at damnation.
133 toughness, 229 health.
In best case (1 wound) - i have:
50% toughness damage reduction.
+24% (martyr) +10% (Faithfull Frenzy) + 20% (Fury of the faithful) attack speed.
+48% (martyr) +20% (MaX Sustained assault) + 10% (small nodes) Attack damage.
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And yea, dont ask about bleed... i dont have metal to change it.

visual stream
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What was the image beb beb

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It didn't load

maiden path
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dont worry about it

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have a sparkle on friday

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🫡

storm elm
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Should I nab

visual stream
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of course you nab

maiden path
visual stream
maiden path
visual stream
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Shouldn't he be too busy dying for the tenth time

maiden path
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his name is soldier boy now..

visual stream
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Oh yeah

maiden path
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he smonk zaza

visual stream
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Shouldn't he be too busy being an evil doob waster

maiden path
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soldier boy smoked da evil doobie that makes u evil

south folio
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shrink your toughness and health bars or die

ripe quest
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why would I shrink them they're a neat 36x36p for health at 7 wounds and 16p tall toughness

south folio
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wipe these numbers from your memory

blissful tundra
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Why he fly so far? Mod?

ripe quest
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I even lowered the whole thing by 4 pixels just because of you

south folio
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i'm glad you think of me

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now, shrink them

south folio
south folio
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those corpse physics are going to reduce your frames by 1

ripe quest
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mod is already uninstalled and reported on Nexus thank you for your work Arco

polar nexus
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Narco

south folio
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lies and deceptions come natural to you

south folio
ripe quest
south folio
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i'm waiting for exhillious to drop a deranged paragraph on me

ripe quest
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What have I, a mere plebian, to hold against such a person as yourself? A man has no such need to rip flesh from a fellow, lest it be a bloodbath thy are willing to partake in.

blissful tundra
visual stream
blissful tundra
south folio
blissful tundra
south folio
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exhillious is hiding from the police and is thus unable to respond to you

coarse birch
south folio
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exhillious proclaimed ideals that are far above the person that he currently is

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he will be tarred and feathered

spare talon
fleet zealot
blissful tundra
acoustic dune
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just saw the q and a

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can someone dumb it for me?

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my brian is wack

drowsy steppe
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Crafting will still be in the game. But there's an accompanying grinding system that doesn't involve crafting

spare talon
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honestly
im glad crafting is still being alongside it

drowsy steppe
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No answers about what will plasteel and diamantine will be for

fleet zealot
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And maybe a fee for swapping perks/blessings

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All weapons have a potential of 380 mod score but the spread is rng, mostly helping the sub 330 mod score gear

acoustic dune
spare talon
# acoustic dune so how does the grind work?

based on what we read
using weapon of an X archetype (combat axe, infantry autoguns, etc) will earn you mastery when completing missions for them
you gain more blessing options to manually select as you rank up your mastery with that weapons archetype, this applies to all weapons for that archetype
you still earn, upgrade, etc weapons, but the mastery system is like a fallback

acoustic dune
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so hangron will now stop making me gamble?

drowsy steppe
# acoustic dune so how does the grind work?

You grind weapons, as in using them to progress towards that weapons Mastery. There's different weapon families (infantry autoguns, braced autoguns, etc) with their own individual Mastery progression. And each family of weapons has it's different marks. Weapon marks from a certain family of weapons will count towards that weapon family's mastery progression

spare talon
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thats not the entirety of it, but its probably the part most people care about

blissful tundra
# acoustic dune so how does the grind work?

So, the more you play, the more you get XP in weapon family (that you just take with you on mission), and it will have points, that you can spend on opening blessing and perks, that you can freely change and craft you weapon, using potential point (if i understand correctly) adding % to some stats of weapon, to a maximum of 80 in stat, and 380(?) in summary,
You still be able to find some weapon as head start.
Also, cross progression for classes with same weapon family...
Except for Ogryn... yea... its sucks...

acoustic dune
spare talon
drowsy steppe
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Our already currently existing weapons with the already existing blessings will not be lost. But they are making blessing adjustments

spare talon
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think of mastery as alternative route to getting the weapon you want

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replacing the rng for accumulated progress

acoustic dune
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so a pity pull

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in gacha term

spare talon
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that implies it gives you the weapon after rolling enough

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when you could just say "nah ill just grind it out thanks"

drowsy steppe
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They haven't decided on how long the progression will be. Though they did say about it being in a manageable timeframe

spare talon
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and not roll a single time

drowsy steppe
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Maybe on par with levelling a single character from 1-30

spare talon
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thats like
2-3 days if youre not an addict

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for basically free reign of blessings on a weapon

drowsy steppe
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Darktide cemented itself as a day job (still happy bout the update don't get me wrong)

spare talon
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do we know when the next part of the qna comes out

fleet zealot
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All blessings will have a t1-t4 versions, hard effect ones will be like BM where they add a minor stat that scales while main functionality stays the same

spare talon
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cuz i am curious about my blessing tier question

fleet zealot
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Just that it will

spare talon
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like for the retroactive mastery from the stickerbook

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if i were to use fake numbers

fleet zealot
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Imo i feel it will be like the penance update

drowsy steppe
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I am happy that I don't need to create a new character just to not grind a low tier blessing. But we are still far from the end of summer

spare talon
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if a tier 1 blessing is 5 progress
and a tier 2 blessing is 10 progress

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would that be 10 progress cuz the highest overrides

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or would that be 15

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or would it just not matter and its "ok you have one of this blessing" and thats the only critera for that portion of mastery

fleet zealot
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Having a small collection will get you into t1 range, having most/all of t3/t4s will put you into t2 range, and having every blessing t1-t4 saved will have you start breaking into t3

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But that is my speculation

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Based on the previous system change

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Basically, returning players get head start and existing inventory while new players have level 1-29 for the early grind progress

blissful tundra
fleet zealot
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Comfy cozy and gameslantern hates my mobile device

spare talon
spare talon
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they did say bloodletter is only on there cuz they dont have mats to change it at the moment

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yeah i have no major or even somewhat minor issues with that build
anything i would say is personal preferance tbh

still quartz
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^

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Tbh I'd even call it a pretty standard 7-wound Martyrdom build for Zealot

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The only thing it demands of you now is to not be absolutely braindead during melee combat

blissful tundra
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Thanks all for opinion.
(Still waiting from Amelia).

still quartz
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Nah I wouldn't trust Amelia Bedelia over there

blissful tundra
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?)

still quartz
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Last time I asked for a candle-lit dinner, she made a dinner entirely out of lit candles

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:C

spare talon
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no thoughts
head full of ferret

still quartz
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That too

fleet zealot
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The 🟢 kind

still quartz
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I can't believe you'd do this

fleet zealot
fleet zealot
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That im playing in

pastel glacier
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Do tactical and combat axes share blessings?

spare talon
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no

pastel glacier
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Ty!

spare talon
# pastel glacier Ty!

typically the word directly before the literal type of weapon it is (infantry lasgun, recon lasgun, braced autogun, headhunter autogun) denotes what archetype of weapon it is

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and those are the weapons that share blessings with that type of gun

spare talon
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red flavor

visual stream
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Decent enough

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Prefer ourple

blissful tundra
drowsy steppe
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Don't use martyrdom

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🙂

blissful tundra
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Its funny.

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And feels good.

ivory marlin
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Hi mal

rich remnant
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I don’t get it dude, played zealot for a long time have horrible luck rolling any weapons with blessings that I actually want the moment I decide to level up veteran I get first try get everything how in the f-

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Oh this isint your main character ? Here’s everything you could ever want

blissful tundra
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Random~

split canyon
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Hello, I haven't played in months. I forgot alot. Is this a good roll?
I have around 3,400 coins, this will run me 3,000

obsidian prairie
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Absolutely bricked

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Also wrong hammer

drowsy steppe
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Tragic perks and blessings

split canyon
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So hot garbage?

obsidian prairie
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There are no redeeming anythings

split canyon
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Thanks lads.

blissful tundra
obsidian prairie
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Softing bosses on the thing designed to kill them

blissful tundra
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Well, its how it looks right now.

delicate shadow
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that hammer isn't worth grabbing at all, no

rich remnant
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Is this a decent bolt pistol boys?

modern lintel
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No

obsidian prairie
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Rip surgical if you really want one

fleet zealot
drowsy steppe
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the beast slumbers

visual stream
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I wouldn't spend your only milk jugs on just a blessing tbh

prime ridge
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Praise be!

visual stream
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Does duellist apply to ranged weapons

prime ridge
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It doesn't specify melee so one would assume ranged

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But ofc fatshark

visual stream
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One can assume lots of things and one would assume wrong on at least half

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Exactly

maiden path
polar nexus
maiden path
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still insane that this is unreleased

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making unreleased music thats so good people remake the entire song is kookoo

fleet zealot
maiden path
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i wish kanye west wasnt bipolar

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and

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noral

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normal

fleet zealot
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Watching him fail social QTEs during interviews

maiden path
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mf had a bunch of yesmen telling him whatever he wanted to hear

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!!!

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insaneo!!!

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pete davidson hate justified though

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all im saying

visual stream
maiden path
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completly justified

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also saying the george bush thing

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it was like 4am in that fucking clip

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going to a dudes house to video him at 4 am to say good morning is stalker insaneo shit

fleet zealot
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I mean the george bush one was 100% true

visual stream
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Probably flashing cameras at him too

fleet zealot
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It’s the stuff in the last decade/5 years

maiden path
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i cant keep saying 'he made mbdtf'

visual stream
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I love that Tobey Maguire video where he laughs at a paparazzi "person" when they get softly hit by a car

fleet zealot
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Where he went full reich … and now i gotta end it cause rule 11

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Goodnight

maiden path
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tober maguire is in the right like 100% of the time

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tober

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toby

visual stream
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tober uwugryn

maiden path
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i think i'd puke if I had to go to any event with more then 100 people

maiden path
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jesus christ be praised

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enrys come to kill us

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D:

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i swear to god

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if kcd2

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just ends on another 'nothing happened' ending

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im going to cry

opaque island
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yo, boltgun ties into space marine, I thought things were pretty fucking similar playing them through at the same time

maiden path
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ik titus is canon

visual stream
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Even shock and awe with the -60% enemy hit mass stops on the first crusher?

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Trash blessing is even trashier

opaque island
# maiden path ik titus is canon

at the end of boltgun, you secure the warp device that the inquisitor wants you to find in space marine and leads to that whole game happening

acoustic dune
median steeple
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bros just being a cuman

misty nova
visual stream
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Still sadg

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Was holding out hope for the shitty stagger meme build but it is kill

misty nova
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Shock and Awe was kill

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Crushers have like
12 mass?

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So minus 60%

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5?

south folio
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carapace has a property that makes it stop all finite cleave unless you have something that also counters this property (perfect strike or sunder)

misty nova
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Yup

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And hammers have 10+ cleave

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On a world where carapace doesn't stop you

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You could hit two crushers with SaA

visual stream
keen silo
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Hi fellow zealots
ive not played since february
waht did i miss with the game's content??

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anything exciting?

maiden path
misty nova
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In fact

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Nerfs

drowsy steppe
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nwe map, new weapons, some news about the upcoming blessing rework

visual stream
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I like the new shotgun

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Recon lasguns got buffed too but that's not for us (yet hopefully)

drowsy steppe
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yall watched that hilariously absurd tf2 video about an attempt at 'fixing' the bad weapons

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the creator loves bleed and made a notable amount of the weapons have bleed

drowsy steppe
wispy crypt
drowsy steppe
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grab it for the hand cannon

maiden path
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i had to play as a janitor

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in ss13

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all I did was fucking clean

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for an hour

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that bitch was sparkling clean doe (it wasnt)

drifting wolf
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did anything eventful happen while cleaning

maiden path
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no

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there was a giant synthmeat that spread giant pools of blood

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i didnt clean it though

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also vampires

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i saw one but never interacted with it

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was just cleaning the area it was in

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oh

drifting wolf
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the kind of fella who cleans up after the super heros brawl it out

maiden path
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I got in trouble with security because I tried to break into a restricted area

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with a medical saw

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i broke a window and electrocuted myself

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on the steel paneling

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i become better at ss13 everyday

ivory marlin
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Guys my influence spreads

ivory marlin
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I got another friend darktide

ivory marlin
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Hi beb

ivory marlin
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Beb

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Do you by chance like music?

naive stirrup
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i am a firm believer in fury now. took a bit of just throwing myself against a wall and dying but after the maelstrom i just clutched 3 times with it
moar fury

spice flame
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what am I looking for?

ember yew
spice flame
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what about the stats

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these are good?

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bit low penetration but best overall so far

ember yew
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well not perfect, but good

spice flame
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I already have mercy killer 4 so I just need flesh tearer

spice flame
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like what stats must be good

ember yew
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all of them, aside from mobility

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so forget it

spice flame
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so first target must be good?

ember yew
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yeah ofc

spice flame
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might be best so far?

ember yew
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it's the same as first one, but worse

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dont waste your time and use the first one

spice flame
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unfortunate this is bad

ember yew
spice flame
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already spent 200k lol

ember yew
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its good

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Backstab -> Uncanny Strike or Riposte
Infested -> Unyelding or melee elites

spice flame
# ember yew you can use this

oh ok. What I was going for at first was melee crit, flak damage, flesh tearer, mercy killer, paired with throwing knife, flame thrower

ember yew
spice flame
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alrighty I will roll knives util I get uncanny 4

obsidian prairie
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You don’t even really need high tier uncanny

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With the knife’s adm’s it works with like t1 I think

spice flame
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Oh and why not mercy killer over uncany/ precog

obsidian prairie
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Mercy killer works better on vet, as their bleed isn’t reliant on crits

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Zealot has to crit to get value out of mercy killer, where as precog just requires a dodge and does the same thing

spice flame
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ye but 60% weak spot damage seems huge?

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oooo

obsidian prairie
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Vet has a talent that adds 1 bleed to every melee attack, meaning it is always active

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I would also recommend the mk6 knife over the mk3, it has a much better moveset for horde or groups of shooters and basically the same singletarget dps and movetech

spice flame
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But why is uncanny good?

obsidian prairie
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Do you know how Rending works?

spice flame
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no

obsidian prairie
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It is basically armor piercing

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Give me a second

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From vet guide

spice flame
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There is this youtuber guy who claims mercy killer+ flesh tearer is best and uncany kinda sucks. Idk what to believe anymore

spare talon
obsidian prairie
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I have a guess

spice flame
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Some autistic kid I think

spare talon
ember yew
obsidian prairie
ember yew
spice flame
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think so

ember yew
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damn

obsidian prairie
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If it is then ignore literally everything they say

ember yew
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you actually guessed right

obsidian prairie
ember yew
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facts

obsidian prairie
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Darktide YouTuber with utter shit takes

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Who could it be?

spare talon
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We could go down the laundry list of everything tanner thinks is that can easily be factually proved as terrible

obsidian prairie
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But going back to uncanny it’s one of the strongest blessings in the game I think

spare talon
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Ah yes weak spot damage is good actually
I would like to improve 10% of 30% of the total damage of my hit

obsidian prairie
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It’s good when it’s not like 10% and competing with 25% flak

spare talon
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With most weapons it's a laughably low increase

spice flame
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He did say that if you have flak damage on combat knife, your thowing knife will also have that

obsidian prairie
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That applies to uncanny btw

spare talon
obsidian prairie
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2 hits for a crusher

spare talon
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And active blessings

obsidian prairie
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Manstopper knives are a thing I need to do eventually

spare talon
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He's right about that one at least, I'm actually kinda shocked

obsidian prairie
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I have a well stat rolled agri shotgun on my zealot

spice flame
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alright it is decent now?

obsidian prairie
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I assume it’s like alt revolver combat role wise

spare talon
obsidian prairie
spice flame
vestal pine
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well ehhhh

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its not guaranteed

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so its never gonna replace a good revolver

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but you get a good horde clear potential, especially if you prepared and elites line up

obsidian prairie
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Yeah but revolver is boring and knives are like crack

vestal pine
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usually 2 or 3 shots

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basically if you go for manstopping

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aim center mass and spam

obsidian prairie
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I don’t actually mean to do it seriously, just as a funny

spice flame
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Alright so I flamer is good yes? What do I want on that. Stats/perks/blessings

vestal pine
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i think its actualy a serious consideration

spice flame
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to pair with knife

obsidian prairie
vestal pine
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cause you can lawbringer special spam and then when elite row comes you throw knives and they're dealt with

spare talon
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Flamer is a really good choice with knife when you have throwing knives to pair with it

obsidian prairie
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In an ideal world Overpressure but it’s bugged as hell

spare talon
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Flak+elites
Blaze away+quickflame or inspiring barrage

vestal pine
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Flamer is a really good choice~~ with knife when you have~~ throwing knives to pair with it

spare talon
#

Flamer really wants at least 76 burn

obsidian prairie
#

All six of my zealot builds use knives

vestal pine
#

11 out of 12 of mine uses one

#

i really need to do the stun nades

obsidian prairie
#

I am also in extreme poverty because I have decided to try for a Rashad like a dumbass

vestal pine
#

eh

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zealot can get away with bad rashad cause she has martydom

obsidian prairie
#

Oh neat autocorrect knows how to spell and capitalize Rashad now

vestal pine
#

you teached him

#

goodie

obsidian prairie
#

Yeah but I want one with shred and FotF

spare talon
#

Ammo is important cuz it doesn't have a great ammo pool and the more the better
Cloud radius is a deceptive name,that's your range so that's also important
Mobility and damage do not matter, damage is purely affecting the hit that applies the burn

vestal pine
spare talon
#

Which is negligible

vestal pine
#

uh

#

uh

#

idk

jolly scaffold
#

so how od "succesful" dodges get counted? Is it dodging when you hear the attack incoming noise? And how would that work for monstrosities

vestal pine
spare talon
obsidian prairie
#

More so if you have over 100% finesse mod

vestal pine
#

which is not fine for brutal momentum

spare talon
spice flame
#

Alright so damage, cloud radios and mobility is dump stats on flamer?

jolly scaffold
#

okay thanks

spice flame
#

Radios 📻

obsidian prairie
#

Damage and mobility

spare talon
#

That's range, so that's important

spice flame
#

Mhm ok

obsidian prairie
#

I would say damage is primary dump

#

Mobility is semi useful for flamer

spare talon
#

But the number 1 thing is getting at least 76% burn

vestal pine
#

burn and radius is priortiy

spare talon
#

As that reaches the highest maximum stacks of applicable burn

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And each stack has a bigger jump in tick damage than the last

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So that jump for 15 does end up making a difference

vestal pine
#

for every gun ever mobility is the sacrificial lamb once more

obsidian prairie
#

Unless it has collateral

vestal pine
#

forgot about that

spare talon
#

Ok I really gotta sleep now lmak

obsidian prairie
#

Collateral being desired at a low value is really funny

spare talon
obsidian prairie
#

Because it means you won’t stagger shit you want to headshot

jolly scaffold
obsidian prairie
#

I have full moon full life living rent free

obsidian prairie
#

Duelist is basically mandatory

spare talon
#

Important ones
Duellist
Scourge
Enduring faith

obsidian prairie
#

It can reach nearly 100% crit with piety and has very fast lights for crit cdr

vestal pine
obsidian prairie
#

It enables extreme FotF lunges at whatever you need dead this minute

jolly scaffold
#

okay thanks

spare talon
#

I personally use piety cuz I'm a crit goblin, and I also use stealth
But momentum and fotf also work for knife, any combo of these keystones and abilities

obsidian prairie
#

I should try martyrdom knife for the funny

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See how fucking overkill it is

obsidian prairie
#

That is mine now

vestal pine
#

coal was mad with me before

obsidian prairie
#

Why do we have marty knife

#

Hate

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Fuck off autowrong

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I rescind my praise over learning Rashad

spice flame
#

first roll

vestal pine
#

burn 75%

#

oof.

spice flame
#

I'll rip showstopper

spice flame
#

does cloud radius have to be above a certain percentage?

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this is good otherwise I think

#

running out of money now. Only 800k left

obsidian prairie
#

Cloud radius should just be as high as you can reasonably get it

spice flame
#

it should?

obsidian prairie
#

That can work

spice flame
#

whenever I get 76%+ burn, cloud radius and ammo gets dumped. Only a few turn out like this

obsidian prairie
#

Not perfect but take your pick of dropping either blessing and drop stamina

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Quickflame is nice for emergencies and I haven’t gotten enough use out of my flamer to see how effective inspiring barrage is

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But it cuts the chip you are taking from stuff attacking you while you dump with alt fire

obsidian prairie
vestal pine
#

dump mobility damage ammo in that order

obsidian prairie
#

Though Zealot builds around their melee mostly instead of their ranged

vestal pine
#

others need to be highest sadly

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inspiring barrage is good tho

stone fern
#

what if the bolter gun bash is removed and the special just changes it from auto to semi auto

obsidian prairie
#

I just replace bashes with a flashlight

vestal pine
#

bashes are decent with poxbursters at one point

stone fern
#

man im not risking it ranged weapons usually have worse dodges

spice flame
stone fern
#

no until death?

obsidian prairie
#

That is

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Interesting

spice flame
#

yes

obsidian prairie
#

Until death is one of zealots best talents

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Take it

spice flame
#

apparently until death is not good since you're not supposed to go down

stone fern
#

ok tanner

obsidian prairie
#

It lets you trade or revive someone free every 2 minutes

#

It straight up prevents me from downing ever some games

spice flame
#

his flamer is overpressure and blaze away

obsidian prairie
#

Overpressure is bugged as hell

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Also

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Do not listen to tanner

spice flame
#

fr

stone fern
#

there arent any other good blessings other than blaze away

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im locked to it currently if it ever gets fixed

obsidian prairie
#

I think crit cdr is also a really weird and extremely expensive choice for that build

stone fern
#

id take toughness on dodge and holy rev+until death

obsidian prairie
#

Your knife only has 20% crit I think so you aren’t getting that much value from that level of point expenditure

stone fern
#

and maybe move desperation somewhere else

spice flame
#

so what do I change in the build?

obsidian prairie
#

Desperation is pretty good on knife because PA spam is great damage

stone fern
#

people here dont like distain but i think its not bad tbh

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or maybe switch it out for swift certainty

spice flame
#

side note this might be nice

stone fern
#

nice

spice flame
#

should I buy? what to I modify

obsidian prairie
#

I didn’t touch keystone blitz ability or aura

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Just redistributed the points from crit cdr

spice flame
#

did you tkae retributor stance?

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I am missing a point

obsidian prairie
#

No

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Hold on

spice flame
#

A you took second wind

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I see

obsidian prairie
#

I guess you do have an extra

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Or not?

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Gameslantern being funny on me

spice flame
#

all good now

#

I didn't see you took SW

obsidian prairie
#

Unabbreviate

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Wait Nevermind misread

#

It is 4:30 am I my reading comprehension is not at its best

spice flame
#

bro take some sleep man

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thanks for the help also!

#

huh? I can change both?

obsidian prairie
#

Yeah, but I would recommend changing Quickflame or Inspiring to Blaze Away

stone fern
#

flamer is a lot like purge

spice flame
#

I know

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but what can I do

stone fern
#

blaze away

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thats it

vestal pine
spice flame
obsidian prairie
#

Either blessing

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Both are useful

spice flame
#

can't decide

stone fern
#

i cant say

obsidian prairie
#

I’d say drop Quickflame then

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If you later find something better than you can rip inspiring for the book

spice flame
#

made a new one

#

Better burn and cloud radius

obsidian prairie
#

Drop showstopper for blaze away and unarmored for flak

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Then that’s pretty good

spice flame
#

and it will be better than last one?

obsidian prairie
#

Probably

spice flame
#

huh

obsidian prairie
#

Better perks and cloud radius

spice flame
#

then it's a will be and not probably

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Need to know if my brokeness is worth it

obsidian prairie
#

I almost never say things with absolute conviction

spice flame
#

You almost never? So there are times when you do?

obsidian prairie
#

Yes

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It’s also a self defeating comment if I outright say never

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Because then I just said something with absolute conviction

spice flame
#

Alright folks on the server which one is best? The in-game rating system has a favourite it seems

obsidian prairie
#

Left

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Or 1st

#

Better perks and better stats despite the lower total

#

A 1% damage flamer is still good as long as its other stats are high

spice flame
#

what we doin here

obsidian prairie
#

I think just change thunderous

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I don’t know much about chaxes though

spice flame
#

@obsidian prairie if you're not gonna sleep, then what curios should I use for the knife flamer build?

obsidian prairie
#

Standard 1 hp 2 tough

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Or you could drop a toughness for stamina because PA spam is good damage

#

For perks straight hp/tough is always good

spice flame
#

maybe shouldn't have locked sprint eff

obsidian prairie
#

Stamina regen is quite nice

#

Gunners isn’t to terribly important here due to Swift Certainty

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You can just dead sprint at them as long as you have stamina

fleet zealot
obsidian prairie
#

Creature

obsidian prairie
#

I hate Fatshark talents

fleet zealot
#

Swift certainty merely extends the “sprint at an angle to evade gunfire” to work at 0 stamina

obsidian prairie
#

Nothing is allowed to have less than three atsrixes

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Oh shit I just misremembered what it did in this case

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It does happen to be 5am though

fleet zealot
#

Every other class can sprint to evade gunfire but it will stop working at 0 stam

#

Still need to sprint at an angle with the talent

obsidian prairie
#

Aight I am going to fuckin sleep

noble ingot
#

man, knife zealots with zoomies give the entire class a bad name angymorrow

#

why are 90% of those so toxic?

obsidian quail
#

biggest dps = best than everyone

#

classic

radiant token
#

Played with a zealot like that yesterday literally ran around me when I was down then he got knocked off the rail, in the middle of the dude clutching his way through a horde this mf puts in the chat “ get me up” lol dude had literally just took off and left everyone the whole time KEKW_ogryn KEKW_ogryn

noble ingot
#

yeah, I hate those kinds of players. now that I've completed all zealot penances, I stick with the group

civic basin
#

I do a lot of QP, been playing with the knife for penance reasons. Never seen so many players drop from the lobby as soon as I load in

ember yew
#

a something like Trauma Soulflare Psyker can shet on that easily

nimble fiber
#

dreams be strange at times

visual stream
spice flame
#

Even though

#

I have good knife, good flame thrower

#

I feel weaker than ever on zealot

#

It feels like playig psyker with purgator staff. Gunners will fk you up i seconds and there is nothing you can do

#

and idk how the combat knife works

stiff cargo
#

best talent tree for thunder hammer?

spice flame
#

It takes like 4 headshots on elite gunners

visual stream
ember yew
#

and in melee hit them with heavy attacks while dodging whatever comes your way

stiff cargo
north sedge
#

Not good on hammer

stiff cargo
#

which ones the best?

visual stream
stiff cargo
#

i dont really use the hammer so i dont know what to take

visual stream
#

I prefer IJ

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At least for Ironhelm

crisp furnace
#

Knife zealots not using their knife for boss dps

#

Fuck me

visual stream
#

IJ has backstab CDR on the way to it as well which is great

crisp furnace
#

Also didn’t pickup plasteel and took 1200 damage

#

Lol

stiff cargo
#

what about for aura

#

im assuming fury of the faithful is the best ability* to have with hammer

visual stream
visual stream
#

Shroudfield is good for meme boss one shots but that's not the most value you can extract with hammer for sure

ivory marlin
#

I saw a pink name that started with d and feared the worst

visual stream
#

Make sure you grab Thy Wrath Be Swift, that is near necessary on hammer

ivory marlin
#

Stan is awesome

visual stream
#

The C'thulu of this chat

ivory marlin
#

I panicked

north sedge
#

She ain't coming back

ember yew
#

She(he) can't stomach my christmas jokes anyway

left iron
ember yew
visual stream
frozen glen
#

never got the chance to play dt with her

rocky marsh
spice flame
#

heavy

rocky marsh
#

no way :v

#

i only have an okay cknife

#

and i could one tap with bleed, on crit

spice flame
rocky marsh
#

oh, i run critspam build,
My cknife has unarmoured, but it shouldn't take 4 heavies anyway

ivory marlin
rocky marsh
spice flame
#

?

rocky marsh
#

whats is your purple node

ivory marlin
#

Shout out to all the “you just got passed by q girl” bumper stickers i keep seeing at the junkyard

spice flame
rocky marsh
#

1 sec

ember yew
#

3 if we talk about absolutely nothing

#

so definitely not 4

#

onetap on crit ofc

rocky marsh
#

yeah, without any buffs i took out the gunner in like 3 hits

#

gimme 1 sec

#

mod order got replaced

#

so it sblank now

placid fiber
#

@ember yew What about if we're, for some stupid reason, talking about the Branx Pickaxe?

#

Just asking... you know... for a friend... >_>'

ember yew
#

im just using karsolan pickaxe

#

its a funny generalist

placid fiber
rocky marsh
#

just like evan says, 3 heavies

spice flame
#

I have the right red talent as well

rocky marsh
#

that doesn't matter

#

i didn't use the ability

#

coudl you

#

record yourself or something

#

or you could to strike party 5

#

and stream

nimble fiber
spice flame
#

Ah sorry don’t have the time atm

rocky marsh
spice flame
#

I'mma have a hamburgr

rocky marsh
#

never coming to zealot chat again

nimble fiber
rocky marsh
nimble fiber
ivory marlin
#

Ember heirloom goes crazy

#

I like mag heirloom more tho

#

Rarely play her tho (she is rank 0)

visual stream
merry flume
#

i cast flame resistance

#

im not immune but i just take very little damage

#

or however it goes lmao

#

87% fire and surrounded by 100% fire

ivory marlin
#

Bro what is that prex

merry flume
#

huh

ivory marlin
#

Look at the prex card

merry flume
#

they know what they were doing

ivory marlin
#

They cant just drop this after pregnancy frame

merry flume
#

goonframe

ivory marlin
#

I accept it as an apology but still

visual stream
#

WTF

#

Why did they dummy it up

ivory marlin
#

Yo

#

Bro she’s always been caked

golden whale
#

How often to zealots ask for private groups for the achievement on this discord? How often do they get responses?
I’m new to this discord and was told this is the easiest way to get it.

ivory marlin
#

Uh ive only seen it happen once but everyone is hella friendly

frozen glen
golden whale
#

Is he some kind of god at helping get this achievement?

stable cypress
#

its a joke, please don't do that and hit up lfg chan for penance help instead lol

frozen glen
#

he just helps alotta people when they ask for penance help here

ivory marlin
#

Hes pretty chill

#

Helped me get the class exotic in destiny 2

wispy crypt
#

They absoulutely know what they're doing with that portrait

mossy tulip
#

Is this any good

#

Or just a reddit build

maiden path
#

has any here read crossed

#

the garth ennis comic

ivory marlin
#

Im illiterate

maiden path
#

but its got pictures

ivory marlin
#

I cant wait until i start leveling my zealot and actually need this chat

faint cape
#

I'm blind and illiterate

ivory marlin
#

Real

maiden path
ivory marlin
#

Text to speech

maiden path
#

fair

#

this is me in real life

#

fr

ivory marlin
#

Me irl

raven crane
maiden path
#

but do u like them

ivory marlin
#

No beb they hate collect

raven crane
maiden path
hard nexus
#

it’s kinda goofy

#

all health no toughness curios

#

block efficiency

#

crit evis

#

jumpscare

mossy tulip
#

Good

hard nexus
#

it’s not as good anymore

#

the crit cdr was nerfed

#

to being on swing, not hit

#

so you can only get a little bit per swing now

mossy tulip
#

I see, was that recent?

hard nexus
#

yeah

#

if you want a crit cdr reduction build

#

use something that’s faster attacking

mossy tulip
#

Gotcha Ty

hard nexus
#

chainsword, knife, shock maul

raven crane
#

harsh language

mossy tulip
hard nexus
#

with chastise

#

on the original evis

idle wind
#

Just started leveling a zealot and I don't really get the class. Nothing really sticks out to me as far as strengths and weaknesses. What are good weapons to run?

hard nexus
#

i’m not too big of a fan of the new evis

idle wind
#

17

hard nexus
#

hm

#

yeah zealot takes some time to really shine

#

levels wise

#

but zealot’s best features are high mobility

#

high toughness regen

#

(especially with second wind (toughness on dodge))

#

and overall being a solid brawler

#

most weapons work pretty well on zealot

#

depends if you want to horde clear or armor clear or what

idle wind
#

I tried the flamer with a mk VII heavy sword and it seemed pretty awful lol. Wasn't sure when to use my charge. Just felt like a worse flame psyker

hard nexus
#

because both weapons do the same thing

#

horde clear

#

and charge is something you want to use for 2 things

bronze elm
#

anyone got some advice to complete there is nothing but the abyss penance?

hard nexus
#

or dealing a lot of damage to a single target, as your first hit from charge will be a crit with 100% rending, so it ignores armor

#

it’s also good for the attack speed buff during hordes

north sedge
#

and toughness regen

hard nexus
#

oh yeah that too

idle wind
#

Roger that, good to know. Any solid weapon combos if I'm running generic left tree?

hard nexus
#

can you send a picture of ur talents?

bronze elm
#

@idle wind theres a website

#

which helps with builds

hard nexus
#

gameslantern

bronze elm
#

yea

hard nexus
#

i wouldn’t trust their builds tbh

bronze elm
#

fair

hard nexus
#

i’ve seen some really bad ones lmfao

bronze elm
#

ik

#

especially

#

when they are all listed on damnation

#

but some of em workeed for me

idle wind
bronze elm
#

so your running pure left?

idle wind
#

Yessir

bronze elm
#

what level are you

#

acc holloon

#

17

idle wind
#

I'm cool with running any build to level, left just seemed the most straight forward

bronze elm
#

do you have the tigrus unlocked?

#

and it worked ouut for me so far

idle wind
bronze elm
#

alr

#

what diff

#

are you runnin?

idle wind
#

2 or 3 right now

bronze elm
#

uprisin or malice then alr

idle wind
#

usually 5s with my ogryn without much trouble

bronze elm
#

fair

#

mm

hard nexus
bronze elm
#

yea

hard nexus
#

zealot requires a lot more gamesense and overall like

bronze elm
#

second best option from tigrus is a hammer probs

#

or catatchan blade

hard nexus
#

or a chainsword

bronze elm
#

catachan*

idle wind
bronze elm
quaint verge
#

Crusher is good too

bronze elm
#

hadnt tried it yet

hard nexus
idle wind
#

Ill try the roguey tree with catachan blade

hard nexus
idle wind
#

ah

quaint verge
#

Push attack on headshot has a good DMG on caraspave

hard nexus
#

take benediction

hushed agate
#

Its a point tax, hopefully it gets removed and replaced

idle wind
#

what's a good ranged weapon to go with combat knife?

hard nexus
#

stealth works but its best with thunder hammer or knife

hard nexus
#

agripinna braced auto

idle wind
#

roger that

bronze elm
hard nexus
#

20 meters

hushed agate
#

I hope stealth gets a modifier that makes it better for fast attacking weapons. I use it with hsword and autogun and its badKEKW_ogryn

quaint verge
hushed agate
#

Which one is that

bronze elm
#

missing like

#

1

#

but yea

#

it is

quaint verge
#

I've got 100% when it was like pre-patch 13

north sedge
#

thunder hammer special, or a sweeping weapon into a big crowd

#

same as before

bronze elm
#

yea

#

i do that

#

but its always smt

#

i have too go into a priv game

#

buut it wont let me

#

since

#

i need someone else

#

😭

visual stream
#

I thought that one worked for public games too? That is the one for restoring health with HR, no?

mossy tulip
#

Any good alternatives to Rashad for a martyrdom build

#

I was thinking heavy sword

raven crane
#

pretty easy with a thammer frontlining a horde in a narrow space

mossy tulip
#

But then carapace is annoying

visual stream
#

Ironhelm absolutely carries you for that penance

#

Just activated thrust 4 into horde

bronze elm
#

but

#

the players

#

keep taking my shit