the crit is more than enough to offset the lack of a +%damage perk
#zealot-class
grave robin
ember yew
but you'l just stagger them, with rampage it will still hit a decent amount of targets
unless
there's many elites mixed in
grave robin
hmm
ember yew
you are basically trading 36% damage, 36% cleave and 36% stagger for 200% cleave
rocky marsh
no it's from twisted metal
is that the game that never came out?
median steeple
no it's a very old game that got a show
median steeple
I remember playing it a couple of times while growing up
rocky marsh
how did you think it was AI
it looked to me like it oculd be.
median steeple
shit I remember playing the fucking JAWS game
rocky marsh
with caxe.
RIP mommentum nerf
grave robin
caxe has to be one of my favourite aesthetic weapons so far
i wish it wasn't so niche
rocky marsh
https://tenor.com/view/keyboard-hyperx-rgb-hyperx-family-hyperx-gaming-gif-17743...
one shot reaper from the front. 
ember yew
its actually not niche, both chax4 and chax12 are strong
rocky marsh
i wish it wasn't so niche
its pretty generalist
maiden path
i aint clownin around no more
rocky marsh
i aint clownin around no more
is this with mods?
maiden path
is this with mods?
yes
i think fatshark would go out of buisness if they made a clown set
uses my fucking clown mind powers to throw a pie in your face
grave robin
they can erase hordes, bosses and elites
i thought caxe horde clear was AWFUL?
that's why i avoided it
ember yew
i thought caxe horde clear was AWFUL?
chax4 use heavies and chax12 normals for that and it's decent
better than knife as example
just not as smooth as rashad
chax4 stacks slaughterer and headtaker
reaching enormous amount of damage, stagger and cleave
and chax12 goes with crushers oneshots (or any elite) with Thrust and then either Headtaker or Slaughterer
south folio
caxe vs chaxe confusion noises intensify
drowsy steppe
chaixe
drowsy steppe
goddammit evan gaslighting players
grave robin
oh i actually meant the chaxe, i forgot there was also a "caxe"
so im glad u yapped about it
thx
anything-canceling is awful
grave robin
grave robin
that's the bad shock maul
drowsy steppe
indig this
drowsy steppe
its the one with the looping strikedowns
grave robin
the other one has better combo
viral ravine
bonk side to side fast
grave robin
i think the spiky one is just variations of L -> H -> repeat
like vice versa for different outcomes (horde or single target)
but yes, boss dmg poopoo
that one blessing that makes it ignore stagger resistance on weakspot sounds monstrous
im just imagining bonking a crusher and them falling to their ass, lol
lean lark
It's not really a bias because until death+holy rev are the best survivability perk in the game
rich remnant
I have airport detail tomorrow, I think before I go to bed I’m gonna have a nice relaxing game of dark tide
I will report back soon on how it goes
maiden path
we need a space station 13 darktide server
rocky marsh
It's not really a bias because until death+holy rev are the best survivability p...
if i took 2nd life, i would have been out of 4 perk points, the entire build wouldn't work.
this is what it looks like.
I had a few ideas, and most of the time people just said "where 2nd life"
obviously i take it on wound build
rich remnant
Not gonna lie I thought it would be kind of memeable. I’d be back in like two minutes, but I actually had a decent game.
I don’t know much about the Saul’s but this looks pretty ass
polar nexus
the other one has better combo
Source Psyker Guide
south folio
i like the agni more for the sole reason that it has strikedown move as a first attack in the combo
frozen glen
i hate the agni because its the one arco likes
polar nexus
I want quick and easy access to bonk not doing a PhD in Bonkiness
frozen glen
you are an impertinent organism
south folio
being able to smack a random bruiser chilling in a corner right out of a sprint
south folio
you are an impertinent organism
your existence itself is a stain upon humanity
frozen glen
there is no humanity left to stain
drowsy steppe
if i took 2nd life, i would have been out of 4 perk points, the entire build wou...
no holy rev and until death is based
I shed those 2 stuff away because theyre crutches
🤮
polar nexus
zealot is too squishy to play without it!!!
grave robin
Source Psyker Guide
Hahaha imagine doing all that bottom shit when you could just do the top
polar nexus
also, i tend to take much more risks with those 2 crutches
rocky marsh
zealot is too squishy to play without it!!!
its not :v
i liked pre nerf mommentum stealth caxe more than wound caxe
drowsy steppe
you let yourself stay too comfortable with the crutch
grave robin
you let yourself stay too comfortable with the crutch
Nobody cares how ethical you are
polar nexus
its not :v
i liked pre nerf mommentum stealth caxe more than wound caxe
you can still use caxes... i am a momentum taxe user
ember yew
you let yourself stay too comfortable with the crutch
basically me
faceroll till until death procs
rich remnant
I just be swinging man
polar nexus
you let yourself stay too comfortable with the crutch
probably, considering i play 4 classes
rich remnant
I’m dumb and I’m gonna just assume that heavy one is like the short hold and heavy two is the long hold
Because I just be swinging based on the situation, I guess
polar nexus
yeah like Evan, i tend to push thinkgs further and further until i am caught by a trapper
rocky marsh
you can still use caxes... i am a momentum taxe user
you can bnut it doesn't feel as good (for me)
harder to hit 2 tap bp with mommentum
rich remnant
Am i cursed ? I have three pickax ogryns on my team now.
ember yew
yeah like Evan, i tend to push thinkgs further and further until i am caught by ...
You see those 30 gunners or 6 crusher, 5 zerks and 4 maulers?
Play safe? Stay with your team?
Yeah
no
CHAAAAAAAARGE
polar nexus
My experience is that the bp are easier to reach on vet
more stable base dmg, recipro, desperado and precision strikes
polar nexus
You see those 30 gunners or 6 crusher, 5 zerks and 4 maulers?
Play safe? Stay wi...
it's like the middle event of relay station in sycorax
drowsy steppe
zealot is too squishy to play without it!!!
second wind
aka the node every zealot take
for survivability
ember yew
if they nerf second wind and dont nerf ogryns free Momentum on both single and multiple targets (its actually much stronger than momentum)
then we need to have a talk with FS
crisp furnace
if they nerf second wind and dont nerf ogryns free Momentum on both single and m...
Those talents should be combined to begin with tbh
lean lark
if i took 2nd life, i would have been out of 4 perk points, the entire build wou...
you can easily take 2nd life in this, but you could also get shield of contempt insteadof that and not change much
zinc talon
rocky marsh
you can easily take 2nd life in this, but you could also get shield of contempt ...
giving up 3 stack? >:O
Also, taking soc is what i did in my original build :v
lean lark
3stack overrated
zinc talon
keep in mind I'm a mission or two from finishing okri's out so I 'll have enoughs hortly
rocky marsh
with caxe.
RIP mommentum nerf
^
lean lark
never used it
zinc talon
grabass or pass gas
drowsy steppe
throwing knives are pog
cinder roost
I feel crazy saying this, did they change the amount of time between thunderhammer activation and when the weapon can be swung? Could just be that I've been away to long and nothings changed.
cinder roost
aint got nothiin on that front, so far i haven't felt that the pickaxes are my thing
polar nexus
I feel crazy saying this, did they change the amount of time between thunderhamm...
nothing changed, also ironhelm has a shorter stun
cinder roost
I figured nothing had changed, just gotta get re-used to everything heh
i used to have it down so well that i pretty much powered up for every swing in most cases
on the ironhelm that is
zinc talon
cuz I posted the 380 obscurus to absolutely zero fanfare whatsoe ver
also
YALL
NO
SPECIALISTS
acoustic dune
Class traitor
he is a honourable zealot
zinc talon
I don't think I've ever once seen an auric maelstrom without specialist waves
it's surreal goin through it
yeah there's a ton of gunners and whatnot sure
but it's just hordes and that's it
acoustic dune
sound like a nightmare
zinc talon
nyone know the name of the mod that lets you replay missions for 24 hours after they cycle
I'd like to save this one because of the rarity of no specialist waves
it's called Many More Tries
spare talon
Many more try yeah
rocky marsh
how does bolt pistol compare to the older bolter?
obsidian prairie
Bolt pistol somehow does more singletarget damage (because deadly accurate) but has zero pen and no magdump capability
Also an expected amount of recoil
rocky marsh
zero pen means against cara its just dink?
obsidian prairie
zero pen means against cara its just dink?
It can oneshot crushers
open pollen
how does bolt pistol compare to the older bolter?
Its also more mobile with a faster weapon switch, I think.
fierce dew
Hello zealot friends. Whats a good talent path for leveling?
rocky marsh
hows the draw time?
one shot crushers with chastise?
what about bulwarks
obsidian prairie
Oh yeah swap time is very good
obsidian prairie
~~hows the draw time?~~
one shot crushers with chastise?
what about bulwarks
That’s for vet
Forgor we in zealot chat
Also thing that like nobody cares about but it has big supression
rocky marsh
fopr zealot, how many shto to kill crusher? o.o
rocky marsh
currently? cknife 3
obsidian prairie
Oh don’t even bother shooting crushers
You have a knife
Sadly the wrong knife but it will still be way better for crusher hunting
obsidian prairie
Yes
Has horde capability with heavy 1 and 2 (perfect horizontals) and basically the same move tech and single target
I also find it’s easier to aim the heavies
rocky marsh
surely theres some benefits for mk3 right?
hushed knoll
Man, why do I always get the urge to play Darktide at 3 am
Are you Patrick
rocky marsh
oh ity doesn't pierce bulwarks
obsidian prairie
It has slightly higher singletarget (slightly, both have absurd push attack spam) and slightly better movetech
open pollen
Are you Patrick
No, this is the Krusty Krab.
hushed knoll
Nice one
rocky marsh
It has slightly higher singletarget (slightly, both have absurd push attack spam...
the high single target is on ly for push attack? or for heavies
obsidian prairie
Push attacks are faster than heavies for pure dps but I think the mk3 heavies do a bit more damage
But the mk6 is way more versatile at the cost of a small amount of dps against single targets
rocky marsh
then yeah i would prefer mk3
i need the damage
i want to one shot gunners
and crusher bps go down by 1 if i have a god roll knife
obsidian prairie
Oh you can absolutely hit basically the same breakpoints
spare talon
spare talon
I need a better one though, mine has dumped finesse
This is mine, same one in that video
spare talon
I skip uncanny cuz I've gotten to the point where I am able to proc both duellist and precog so often with basically ensured crits, that I'm only dealing slightly less damage to crushers, and much more damage to everything else
true kindle
This is mine, same one in that video
without rending? damn
true kindle
I skip uncanny cuz I've gotten to the point where I am able to proc both duellis...
adds to list of reasons for pseudorending on crit to die
spare talon
I love my mk6 knife
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046913589614747719...
@true kindle I mean it visibly works
true kindle
oh yeah, I know. that's concerning
spare talon
*adds to list of reasons for pseudorending on crit to die*
Tho tbf most people are still better off taking uncanny cuz of its ease of use
It's just too good right out the gate
You don't need x y z nodes and blessings to make it incredibly good
It just is
rocky marsh
Oh you can absolutely hit basically the same breakpoints
yeh but the requirements are higher correct
obsidian prairie
Ask Cole, they know more
It is also 4:30 on the morning where I’m at and am about to pass out
spare talon
Ask Cole, they know more
And it's 6:30 for me
I was about to do the sa.e
spare talon
And it's 6:30 for me
I was about to do the sa.e
Case in point I guess
But I really don't know much about the difference in breakpoints between the knives
I used the mk3 as a uncanny flesh tearer knife a long time ago, and when I returned to knife I only used the mk6
placid fiber
Know what's great, in Hades 2? When you can almost fully upgrade your lunar Hex ability like I have done this run. <.<
What the total amount of things I get are: +60% damage while the hex is active, +3 seconds to the hex duration(8 seconds in total), +20% attack speed while the hex is active, the hex acts as if I am spending 3 mana/sec when it is on cooldown(using mana is how you get your hex off cooldown), and uh... w/e tf this means <.<
This is my favorite hex, in hades 2, as well
blissful tundra
Know what's great, in Hades 2? When you can almost fully upgrade your lunar Hex ...
Wrong chat?
placid fiber
Sorry I was just talking about my hades 2 experience here cuz I was feeling chatty x.x
I blame, uh, obamacare >_>'
dreamy quail
Wrong chat?
recently this chat has more non darktide content than expected
dreamy quail
Know what's great, in Hades 2? When you can almost fully upgrade your lunar Hex ...
we care why?
blissful tundra
Huh, thats explain why we dont have guide like ogryns and why some one think, that we cant reed.
ornate bone
my brainrot is so high that I'm trying to slide in the Mourningstar
rocky marsh
my brainrot is so high that I'm trying to slide in the Mourningstar
l33t gamer
misty nova
Crazy frog on it
stable frigate
the last 24 hours have been suspiciously fantastic for gear pickups
Extremely spicy pick-ups damn
Jealous cuz most of my drops are the brickiest bricks to ever brick 
wispy crypt
What should I consider when picking between the mk6 and mk3 knife?
wispy crypt
Hmm yes, I haven't quite thought about that 
rocky marsh
playing knife for clear
austere grail
I guess mk6 has better trash clear because the light spam is all sweeps
nimble fiber
rocky marsh
austere grail
The one stab on the mk3 is so fast tho I dont think it matters much
rocky marsh
Just make sure to have Uncanny Strike
i tried all and i actually prefer riposte FT, because then i actually have a chance to one hit gunners
if i have to 2 hit gunners i might as well play caxe
misty nova
As long as you're having fun I guess
rocky marsh
As long as you're having fun I guess
i mean you can run precog uncanny, but good luck getting using 2 seconds on dodge against gunner mob :v
wispy crypt
I'm all bout dem crits 
austere grail
As long as you're having fun I guess
Real. Ive seen a guy use a lacerate knife clutch vs full horde density, elite spawns and special spawns. Just use orange item be good at the end of the day
rocky marsh
Real. Ive seen a guy use a lacerate knife clutch vs full horde density, elite sp...
i mean with FT riposte i still three hit crushers
i just don't have the uncanny tknives
don't think its nice to put me down like that.
Maybe you can explain why its worse / yours is better, but just saying that is pretty eh.
( im referring to higui saying that, although i did reply to you first salmon)
austere grail
Are you using momentum build with that knife?
rocky marsh
no, critspam
austere grail
I think riposte might be redundant with critspam build
Iirc you get to 85% crit rate without it
misty nova
don't think its nice to put me down like that.
Maybe you can explain why its wo...
It's just rending bypassing armor mitigation and knife having finesse shenanigans
But it doesn't seem like you're struggling without Uncanny, so I thought I'd save time and not lecture or whatever the term
nimble fiber
And it's 6:30 for me
I was about to do the sa.e
nooo cole, u awake yet?
coarse birch
Its been 3 hours 😭
austere grail
100% is better than 80% of course, but consider that with uncanny your bleed dot will actually do significant damage to crushers
rocky marsh
Iirc you get to 85% crit rate without it
hmm, its that high?
someoen confirm please >.>
austere grail
When I played with the show crit chance mod and a +5% knife thats what I saw
rocky marsh
It's just rending bypassing armor mitigation and knife having finesse shenanigan...
lemme go test with just uncanny, and uncanny + precog against crushers
what i remember was that the bp (esp without precog) was the same
coarse birch
Ive been mildly tempted
rocky marsh
When I played with the show crit chance mod and a +5% knife thats what I saw
i see, i jsut found the "sometimes no one hit" very annoying
coarse birch
I dont mind grind
nimble fiber
be an alpha and ignore the horny
coarse birch
I play granblue relink lmao
nimble fiber
this is the way
rocky marsh
I dont mind grind
look at the steam reviews
rocky marsh
I play granblue relink lmao
i quit after i fought lucil and got my terminus
coarse birch
I am 100 hours in and just now grinding terminus weapons
nimble fiber
and the players are pretty cool ( mostly, dont look in the world chat )
coarse birch
And i play multiple characters so uh
frosty herald
coarse birch
Yeah this will take a while
frosty herald
istg
rocky marsh
I am 100 hours in and just now grinding terminus weapons
i played i think around 40 hours only (iirc)
You need to grind smarter
coarse birch
I mean it takes a while to get all the sigils and i didnt save scum till recently
I don't even have all the sigils actually but most of them
rocky marsh
you don't need all, but yeah savescum.
coarse birch
And like 5 hours of that was slamming overmastery
Cause i just could not get what i wanted
rocky marsh
join their discord and find out how to build
coarse birch
it can be quite grindy
If the gameplays fun idc
rocky marsh
for overmastery you just need 20% crit tbh
nimble fiber
it is imo
coarse birch
join their discord and find out how to build
I am literally making a build from the discord lol
Its just taking forever
rocky marsh
I am literally making a build from the discord lol
ooo
coarse birch
And i don't play online
rocky marsh
yeah same
coarse birch
So i gotta build AI to some degree
rocky marsh
well except for like 3 matches to get the online only ticket, to buy sigil from the girl
coarse birch
At this point i mostly need terminus weapon + some of the sigil + i am missing
Namely good damage caps and warpath +
With not garbage on it
Then i do it again for all the characters i like
Surely this will not take 1000 hours
nimble fiber
coarse birch
Yeah rn im waiting for it to drop for cagliostro or narmaya
Any of my characters work though
So far no luck
rocky marsh
Then i do it again for all the characters i like
and yeah for sigils as well
rocky marsh
i remember theres a quest where you can grind damage caps
but i forgot if its normal or +
rocky marsh
ya
coarse birch
Its an annoying quest but not too hard thankfully
I do have like 15 damage caps just gotta actually get the right sub sigil
Or w/e its called
nimble fiber
If the gameplays fun idc
uh another nice thing, it tells u where something drops and how high the chances are
rocky marsh
I do have like 15 damage caps just gotta actually get the right sub sigil
savescum bro
coarse birch
Ill look into the game i was somewhat interested
Well i can save scum but i also just need the other stuff to drop
Like if i want damage cap V/cascade i gotta find both
Or get really lucky
Finding both is what prob takes the longest atm quick cooldown eludes me
Doesnt help i didnt save scum for the first 80ish hours
So i was actually in the trenches
rocky marsh
It's just rending bypassing armor mitigation and knife having finesse shenanigan...
ya, with just uncanny, i need 4 hits
i managed to get a 2 hit ONCe but~~ i couldn't replicate it.~~ was very hard to replicate
Just to clarify, a crit hit headshot that isn't a kiull will be a double line orange hit marker correct?
rocky marsh
Well i can save scum but i also just need the other stuff to drop
btw, if you have something with V+ and the subtrait is cascade, you can use the new feature, which is also savescummable
"sigil synthesis"
coarse birch
Yeah thats what ive been save scumming
Recently
I dont like save scumming but id actually be here for an eternity if i dont
rocky marsh
@austere grail assuming its additive right.
scourge 3 stacks - 30%
piety - 15%
righteous warrior - 10%
Thats 55%
Assume base crit chance is like 10%
Thats 65%
rocky marsh
Yeah thats what ive been save scumming
you can savescum that and the tickets thing
Go find out what has good trade ratio for the tickets
austere grail
Zealot base is 5 and knife base is 15
coarse birch
you can savescum that and the tickets thing
Go find out what has good trade rati...
Like the transmutations?
I should probably start save scumming that
rocky marsh
Zealot base is 5 and knife base is 15
iirc someone said knife base is fucked so its not actually that high
but even if we consider that thats uh, 75%.
hmmm, actually i might just consider running uncanny FT. (still hate precog tho :v)
thanks alot.
rocky marsh
Like the transmutations?
idk what its called, you buy like the best grade of the tickets to sigil thing, then spending X amount grant you one roll at a "super roll"
so i just save up till 30 "super rolls" and save scum those.
rocky marsh
no wonder you taking so long
coarse birch
Cause i was using it a ton but not save scumming it
I had a good method of getting tickets at least but yeah still takes forever
Without really good luck
I got a good portion of build made that way so it wasnt the worst thing but it did also take 100 hours lol
rocky marsh
thanks alot.
@austere grail oh ya, would FT3 work?
work as in
does ft3 and ft4 change bps
austere grail
Is 3 just 1 less stack
rocky marsh
ya
austere grail
Flesh tearer isnt about bps so ur good
rocky marsh
do i need +cara as well
currently running unarmoured and elite
austere grail
Play a game with the healthbar mod(cheat) and look at all the elites running around with a sliver of health, FT means they die
I always pick +cara
I dont really need unarmored, i just spam bruisers until they die
Knife is great for fightining bosses (even 1v1) so I put unyielding on there as my second option
Elite is probably just as good or better than +cara tho if you can only pick one perk
rocky marsh
ahh
ok i also get why
it felt as though ripost crit way more now
its because scourge only last 3 seconds, likewise for uncanny (though i don't think in the context where i need uncanny, it will be hard to keep it up).
But for scourge, if i move from one cluster of gunners to another, i will lose the 30%
rocky marsh
also dumb question how come ulti doesn't proc scourge
Doesn't ulti auto crit on melee
rocky marsh
Do u know push attack spam tech
from waht i understand, as long as you don't dodge you can spam it. is this what you meant?
austere grail
Yeah just that push attack spam is highest dps
One shotting gunners isnt really a big deal when you can PA follow up in a split second
austere grail
also dumb question how come ulti doesn't proc scourge
Doesn't ulti auto crit on ...
I didnt know it doesnt lol
rocky marsh
One shotting gunners isnt really a big deal when you can PA follow up in a split...
tried in psk like uncanny + riposte
doesn't feel good either, really need FT for them to die in 1 hit
btw, uncanny has no effect on unarmoured right? (just to clarify)
rocky marsh
ah, i will prob continue to run FT riposte then
The -1 bp on crushers not really worth it esp when the window is so tight and i don't get to 1 hit gunners
austere grail
Uncanny is p much constant damage bonus
It will make bleed do real damage to crusher
rocky marsh
if im 1v3 crusher, i miss a headshot, uncanny would be gone :v
plus atm its just -1 bp
austere grail
I dont think it drops?
rocky marsh
if you dont hit a wweakspot for 3 seconds the whole stack drops./
austere grail
Thats a big window for how fast knife attacks
rocky marsh
wait wouldn't you heavy the crusher
austere grail
Yes PA spam
rocky marsh
yeah thats like 2 attacks
and since i need to dodge as well, sometimes dodge back
thats really 1 attack
austere grail
Id say 2-3 with a dodge in there
rocky marsh
game crashed hold on let me test
austere grail
Mostly the big thing is the bleed dot
Its not doing anything to crushers without uncanny
rocky marsh
ah, so its more of
do i want to kill the crusher faster
or 1 tap the gunner
its like 1-3 bps faster, with uncanny
vast basin
I mean uncanny at max stacks is a minimum 25% damage increase against valid targets, and knife being a weakspot weapon anyway it's going to be easy to keep up
rocky marsh
because my problem is that if i don't run riposte scourge runs out easily, meaning no 1tap on gunners\
yeah, keeping uncanny up isn't that hard
esp when its relevant
rocky marsh
yeah, i don't have a god roll cknife, just a decent one
but i remember god roll can't 1 tap gunner anywayh, let me test it now
vast basin
I know that I can one tap gunners, maybe that's with duellist active tho?
rocky marsh
oh god roll can, but you are somewaht right
ith duelsit they die instantly, without they die to bleed
its jsut that i don't have god roll :v
vast basin
Rip
rocky marsh
i mean i have this, i can change the belssings, but then no +cara
:v thats god roll but somehow it doesn't 1 tap anymore
im going isnane
vast basin
Well I wouldn't call a lacerate knife a godroll but you do you 
rocky marsh
Well I wouldn't call a lacerate knife a godroll but you do you <:KEKW_ogryn:1022...
i meant base stats...
obviouslyt im changing the blessings to test
:v
marsh hill
i mean i have this, i can change the belssings, but then no +cara
you bear holy weapons literally
flesh tearer to uncanny and then unarmored to flak/cara
rocky marsh
anyway, yeah its most likely duelist
marsh hill
keep lacerate for the extra 30% crit chance after your first 3 hits
rocky marsh
i meant base stats...
where apology 
vast basin
Do not keep lacerate it's shit
rocky marsh
im not.
atm im just pissed at somehow i got gunner to die to bleed with the riposte + uncanny without duelist which i cannot replicate.
im assuming somewhere after is tabbed him, i procced some buff again and the bleed increased in damage enough to kill him, or something.
quiet turret
Flesh tearer is better in 90% of situations I agree
rocky marsh
welp, for the momment due to my subpar weapon im still going to run riposte + FT
marsh hill
welp, for the momment due to my subpar weapon im still going to run riposte + FT
wait tho if you run that with crit build after 3 shots u get 75% crit chance
but u need damage, aka rending
quiet turret
Yeah I prefer precog as well but FT is decent
coarse birch
Although riposte FT isnt awful if your maintaing high crit chance
Cause crits are p close to uncanny
Makes it less needed at least
rocky marsh
wait tho if you run that with crit build after 3 shots u get 75% crit chance
that sassuming you have scourge on.
which, when im running from gunner cluster to other its most likely will be gone, so now my crit chance is 45%
my priority is to 1 tap gunners
marsh hill
that sassuming you have scourge on.
which, when im running from gunner cluster t...
people dont run scourge for catachan? damn
marsh hill
yeah u wanna focus on 1 type of enemy XD
rocky marsh
marsh hill
it will still help with palgue ogryns but at that point just run a hammer build
and 1 shot them
nimble fiber
rocky marsh
wrong channel
hushed agate
wrong channel
*right
frosty herald
https://tenor.com/view/monkey-coke-ocean-jumping-monkey-gif-18866609
How i feel trying to rage mode on trepang²
fleet zealot
warning loud
nimble fiber
warning loud
omg its @violet hornet
stable cypress
more comfortable than most US anti-homeless benches tbh
open pollen
In the same way a child selling lemonade to get their friends out of crippling debt is cute
hushed agate
wispy crypt
Uhh which one should I go for?
hushed agate
If you had to choose take the second
But id go for a better roll if you have the money
Mobility is your dump stat
wispy crypt
I'll just use all my money then and hope for the best
hushed agate
I'll just use all my money then and hope for the best
If you cant afford to 2nd isnt horrible
Its alright
wispy crypt
Now this is aboslute bonkers
hushed agate
Now this is aboslute bonkers
Groll
rocky marsh
Pretty much anything below like 355 you can ignore
hushed agate
Hope hadron puts lacerate on that bad boy🙏
stable cypress
I hope its BiS perks and blessings just as an insult
wispy crypt
I'd totally run it for the shits and giggles
Anyways is this any better than the 2nd one previously shown?
violet hornet
omg its <@265021145953206272>
Shit y'all just postin my only fans on here
ember yew
Anyways is this any better than the 2nd one previously shown?
Just go and ruin all of them
wispy crypt
Sure
hushed agate
Anyways is this any better than the 2nd one previously shown?
Id say 2 from original three is slightly better
ember yew
then stamina and sprint procs
hushed agate
Yeah just roll two its no groll but its not bad
wispy crypt
ember yew
you won
hushed agate
then stamina and sprint procs
Just as the great omnishia intended
ember yew
mercy killer/uncanny is pretty good, just go piety talent route
hushed agate
What level are you?
wispy crypt
30
hushed agate
Oof
wispy crypt
Yep
wispy crypt
I'll just stick with this for now
ember yew
I'll just stick with this for now <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
use new one
replace 8% damage with melee elites and buff unyelding to 25%
hushed agate
replace 8% damage with melee elites and buff unyelding to 25%
Hows he supposed to proq bleed
wispy crypt
Hmm, what if my zealot build focuses on the bleed and crit so I can lower the cd for my holy chantings
hushed agate
He has mercy and uncanny
Not playing vet
Theres no way to proq bleed without a different weapon
@ember yew
north sedge
scourge?
wispy crypt
Yeah
north sedge
Plus knife inherent crit
wispy crypt
It's always been a perk
hushed agate
Im having my first dementia moment
wispy crypt
I was just afraid it wouldn't still be enough 💀
hushed agate
Its so joever
stable cypress
since uhh, the beginning of the game
fierce dew
Which heavy eviscerator is better?
coarse birch
P even
hushed agate
Which heavy eviscerator is better?
I think it's generally considered that the green is a but better
Theyre very even tho yeah
coarse birch
Mk 15 has better single target mk2 has better horde clear
Mk2 is a bit more versatile
hushed agate
Up to preference
nimble fiber
Shit y'all just postin my only fans on here
fierce dew
Cool, thanks!
misty nova
Which heavy eviscerator is better?
There's no such thing
it's the mk15 with bloodthirsty
The best one is the one you have fun with
remember to rev heavy for maximum shredding
ivory marlin
why does the bitch at the free cosmetic store swtich between a woman and robot
misty nova
misty nova
What a very important and remarkable character huh
hushed agate
im so stupid
Nah you good
There isn't anything that pops out about her as a character
I didnt realize either
misty nova
I also noticed at the last second
The only thing I remember from her is that she had an accent
That's why Rannick shot her
Definitely not because she was present on 90% of the cutscenes
wispy crypt
So she got shot cuz she had an accent? Wild 
hushed agate
I thought she got shot because she had red hair?
frank night
No soul == cultist
fleet zealot
misty nova
I thought she got shot because she had red hair?
An accent and red hair? I'm surprised Rannick didn't shoot twice
pine tartan
What should i change?
it has 20% vs maniacs, 20%% vs flaks
shred 4
wrath 4
coarse birch
Wrath to rampage
stone fern
WELL BUNNY MAYBE I WONT GO AFK IF YOU DIDNT JUST WIPE EVERY WAVE IN A MICRO SECOND
royal vortex
i love how "don't show again" is "don't show again today"
stone fern
whats even better is dont show again has a bigger hitbox than the x
steep flame
quack 🔛🔝
ancient brook
An accent and red hair? I'm surprised Rannick didn't shoot twice
A scouse accent
He was mostly just confused
ivory marlin
Scouse accent and red head? Im afraid thats my type
acoustic dune
WELL BUNNY MAYBE I WONT GO AFK IF YOU DIDNT JUST WIPE EVERY WAVE IN A MICRO SEC...
are they saying no mods?
that's wack
tight fog
we did end up with a scouse servitor though which is pretty incredible
spare talon
are they saying no mods?
its talking about people who load into an instanced matchmade activity to just afk in the corner while everyone else does the activity, so they can get the rewards without doing anything
a lot of people are finding this stupid cuz you get a character literally 30 minutes into the game that completely trivializes any sort of group clear, and if they actually are modded properly, basically instantly kill entire groups of enemies the moment they spawn
why would you try at that point, theyre already doing everything instantly
nimble fiber
real
there are instances where its fine imo, like the one farming mission in the sterile lands
spare talon
anyway
time to continue investing in said character 
nimble fiber
but the mission in the swamp I could hold my own against 3 bunnys so that was no excuse
but I def understand the frustration
spare talon
yeah cuz that mission has stronger enemies
and most bunnies cant actually nuke them like they can with the desert one
nimble fiber
been on both sides
spare talon
unless youre me
nimble fiber
u feckin druggo 
nimble fiber
anyway
time to continue investing in said character <:smiles:892895987364950057>
feel kinda burned out from farming with blair rn
spare talon
im missing the augment that limits how many enemies it can hit
but massively buffs its damage to the point where the damage cap doesnt matter
everything it does hit instantly dies anyway
nimble fiber
I need that for blair
or actually just more speed and range
so I can fuckin snipe everything with my flamethrower
maiden path
spare talon
look at these numbies
maiden path
look at these numbies
nimble fiber
look at these numbies
hm yeah huge numbies
spare talon
https://tenor.com/view/floppa-floppa-scare-big-floppa-gif-22874242
yeah seeing numbers for the first time can be scary beb, but youll get use to them
maiden path
yeah seeing numbers for the first time can be scary beb, but youll get use to th...
nope
scared of booty.......
nimble fiber
real
spare talon
scared of booty.......
no way, im scared of women too!
maiden path
even a billion
astral hound
What should i change?
it has 20% vs maniacs, 20%% vs flaks
shred 4
wrath 4
ENEMIGOS CON ARMADURA ANTIMETRELLA JAJAJAJA
nimble fiber
thats why I wear the dino suit when playing bunny
maiden path
JAJAJAJAJA
nimble fiber
just feel uncomfortable without
spare talon
thats why I wear the dino suit when playing bunny
thats not a bad idea
but that costs money and ehhhhhhh
astral hound
armadura is armor?
pine tartan
armadura is armor?
Yes
ivory marlin
https://tenor.com/view/bully-bullying-go-away-3d-gifs-artist-monkey-gif-17541617
Why he got him pinenits out
astral hound
Spanish is just Latin...
maiden path
Spanish is just Latin...
maiden path
i dont think anyone in here speaks spanish
raven crane
uma delicia* , but close enough.
astral hound
Of the game, silly
maiden path
monkey soup./.................
astral hound
a delicacy
spare talon
i dont think anyone in here speaks spanish
no hablo pantalones
maiden path
no hablo pantalones
la madre un puta para PANTALONES
i remember watching the avatar in spanish class
nimble fiber
w
raven crane
tengo un gato verde en mis pantalones de los chaos lads wiv da spikes.
maiden path
tengo un gato verde en mis pantalones de los chaos lads wiv da spikes.
why he speakin jamican
spare talon
i learned a much more valuable skill in spanish
how to speak in such plain english such that google translate cannot possibly fuck it up
maiden path
i came done dere in dis one tang to taste da goobley goo -jamican alien coming down to taste coke
misty nova
tengo un gato verde en mis pantalones de los chaos lads wiv da spikes.
Hermano changed language mid sentence
💀
astral hound
I'm in lanzarote surfing rn so i'm teaching myself a bit of spanglish
#1 skill acquired so far is determining who speaks the most english on eyesight alone
open pollen
spare talon
borozis are just greyhounds with a +25% length modifier
open pollen
Luv me Shimp
hushed knoll
open pollen
borozis are just greyhounds with a +25% length modifier
You ever consider that greyhounds are just sawn-off borozis?
misty nova
They have 2 frames while running
pulsar zinc
how are chainswords (not evisc) performing these days anyway
also hiii Amelia 💜
i ask because while it might still be gimped, i do see this beauty sitting in requisitions
hard nexus
how *are* chainswords (not evisc) performing these days anyway
solid
spare talon
not gimped too bad
hard nexus
keep gambling
spare talon
pulsar zinc
okay, so since i am
actually a chainsword dumbass
what blessings are solid on it
what should a lass hope to roll, perks too
hard nexus
rampage and savage sweep/wrath
flak maniac
if u wanna go for crits u can take shred instead of rampage
pulsar zinc
i did have this from ages ago when i was trying crits but idk
blazing piety just feels mid
pulsar zinc
it was! i'm not so sure anymore with the nerf where it only triggers once a hit
pulsar zinc
evisc definitely feels a lot worse with that tbh
hard nexus
but evis, thammer, etc
pulsar zinc
genuinely don't even play it anymore lol
pulsar zinc
alright well
let's see what hadron has in store for me
hadron is a bitch
oh sorry
"AWW DANGIT"
lusty oar
mods, rail hadron in front of the pict caster
austere grail
Thats free bloodyshirsty 4 unlock to get further mastery for the 2026 crafting update release
pulsar zinc
lmao
honestly bloodletter woulda been neat if they actually buffed it on evisc instead of lowering it afair
misty nova
They way revved attacks work on the evis would make it broken
merry flume
wifi 6 is bonkers
pulsar zinc
i'd rather it be broken than functionally useless on every weapon it can roll on
there's plenty of shit in this game that's genuinely broken and have been since the talent tree revamp
misty nova
With that being said evis scourge bloodletter applies 8 stacks of bleed
pulsar zinc
including like half of ogryn's entire tree
frosty herald
bro got the 6g
merry flume
im gonna upgrade to gigabit next month and apparently wifi6 can handle gigabit speeds over the air
me soon
ivory marlin
maiden path
found it!
maiden path
im jus that good
fleet zealot
how *are* chainswords (not evisc) performing these days anyway
Best chaff clear in the game, suffers a bit vs carapace vs other chain options, has a quirk (crit dmg does not fall off as you cleave)
It’s also fast asf
vapid dagger
wifi 6 is bonkers
fleet zealot
Business meeting
ivory marlin
Can anyone help with this i dont trust beb
maiden path
i stabbed this guy in the fucking skull
i died in the process
chat should I kill him
STAY THE FUCK DOWN!!
frosty herald
You should get exanima
maiden path
I'VE TRIED IT
its fun
i snapped this guys neck I think
or i knocked him out instantly
war is hell................
spare talon
visual stream
Psyker takes a lil metagaming your talents and how some things work, it's definitely between them and ogryn on which class takes the most skill or knowledge for their reward tbh
ivory marlin
Im hard when i play psyker
visual stream
Granted some psyker builds are brainless though
ivory marlin
(Joke)
north sedge
Quick bust out the 50yr old threads in rebuttal
south folio
press button good and you're set on psyker
ivory marlin
I like psyker
visual stream
Make sure you link it three times
north sedge
press button good and you're set on psyker
How button work
ivory marlin
Freakyjoe also likes psyker
south folio
finger or thumb go on key and press down when you want thing to happen
north sedge
Make sure you link it three times
And divorce your emotions from politics
south folio
alternatively, use a foot pedal
based on the title, i'm assuming that they haven't separated their dodge/jump keybindings
visual stream
based on the title, i'm assuming that they haven't separated their dodge/jump ke...
Me, who still hasn't done that but has been meaning to:
royal vortex
Quick bust out the 50yr old threads in rebuttal
we need to know what the aztecs think
south folio
i figured that this would be a game that i would invest a lot of time into, so i made sure to set up good keybinds before even playing my first mission
royal vortex
i have like 3 changed keybinds
north sedge
we need to know what the aztecs think
visual stream
I'm too used to it
That's my thing, even though I know 90% of the spacebar real estate is for dodging instead of mantling/jumping
royal vortex
one of them was push to talk while my mouse didnt have side buttons
south folio
there's also a mod that just disables sideways/backwards jumping entirely if you want to keep them on the same key
south folio
one of them was push to talk while my mouse didnt have side buttons
i simply have to stretch my hand to the squiggly key to talk, and then I die if I focus on chatting instead of gaming
royal vortex
they need a forced vault button so my ogryn doesn't forget how to climb a knee high obsctacle
royal vortex
i simply have to stretch my hand to the squiggly key to talk, and then I die if ...
do you mean tilde key
north sedge
It's pretty rare i fuck it up in that specific way, when i go down it's because i actively made a bad choice or josho exploded a burster on me
south folio
It's pretty rare i fuck it up in that specific way, when i go down it's because ...
playing with josho is covered under making a bad choice
spare talon
do you mean tilde key
no youre just making shit up to make arco sound stupid
its always been the squiggly key
visual stream
they need a forced vault button so my ogryn doesn't forget how to climb a knee h...
You would think the huge fit dudes would be able to climb stuff better/higher but it's the opposite
Some spots are actually aneurysm-inducing
royal vortex
no youre just making shit up to make arco sound stupid
its always been the squig...
in the ready or not dlc trailer there's a bit where you can see a cop in the background just blast a dude who was waiting to be arrested
that's what i will do to you
maiden path
spare dome
omg is this AI
visual stream
omg is this AI
No that's an American city
royal vortex
No that's an American city
we've simplified the terms so cities are now called longtowns
spare talon
in the ready or not dlc trailer there's a bit where you can see a cop in the bac...
i literally just watched it to see and i dont know what part youre talking about
like genuinely
royal vortex
i literally just watched it to see and i dont know what part youre talking about
watch it 50 more times and then consult me
steep flame
wifi 6 is bonkers
believe it or not, us aussies do have wifi 6
unfortunately the actual fucking in-earth infrastructure is too shit to make use of it
maiden path
alabama
royal vortex
by then i'll have forgotten what im talking about and win by default
spare talon
watch it 50 more times and then consult me
maiden path
washington
visual stream
alabama
No that's Australia, you forgot their transportation is riding local wildlife
maiden path
and this is new york
visual stream
can attest
maiden path
visual stream
detroit
fickle seal
https://youtu.be/rAlAqMv1he0?si=xeqT1KWD1dbS3byC
Thoughts on this?
merry flume
https://youtu.be/rAlAqMv1he0?si=xeqT1KWD1dbS3byC
Thoughts on this?
i don't abide by the opinions of content creators, i just use what's fun
maiden path
https://youtu.be/rAlAqMv1he0?si=xeqT1KWD1dbS3byC
Thoughts on this?
dclaw at d tier
lkmao
coarse birch
https://youtu.be/rAlAqMv1he0?si=xeqT1KWD1dbS3byC
Thoughts on this?
this would be regarded as p inaccurate
coarse birch
combat axes, crusher, and hsword are all very much top tier zealot weapons which he has in the bottom 2 tiers
fickle seal
T hammer I don’t agree with for sure but dclaw I feel isn’t worth it or even hsword versus chain axe and evis
maiden path
dclaw is fucking insane
fickle seal
For horde clear yeah but that’s about it
maiden path
parry can oneshot anything smaller then a crusher
coarse birch
dclaw placement could be a bit higher
coarse birch
T hammer I don’t agree with for sure but dclaw I feel isn’t worth it or even hsw...
hsword is for sure worth taking over chainaxe
or evis
chainaxe and evis just get cara/boss damage
fickle seal
Parry is dope for sure. But in auric? Versus chain axe and evis those are hands down better
coarse birch
over hsword
maiden path
darktide itself isn't too hard which means the shitty weapons are still useable
fickle seal
darktide itself isn't too hard which means the shitty weapons are still useable
True true that’s a valid point lol
coarse birch
evis and chainsword are good for sure but hsword is crazy
maiden path
Parry is dope for sure. But in auric? Versus chain axe and evis those are hands ...
it does TOO good in auric maelstrom
we must
nerf it
trust me chat
coarse birch
dclaw is not on the list
maiden path
yes..
fickle seal
Lmfao do NOT nerf thammer it needs a buff. Dclaw is on the list no? All 3 are in D tier, I mean I think they should be C minimum with axes below it
maiden path
nerf thammer now
fickle seal
Both Thammers should stun in a small AOE honestly.
coarse birch
combat axes are a free top tier
maiden path
monstrosities need a buff on some real shit
fickle seal
Rashad and antax maybe, but not the rest. They take specific blessings to be good and even then hsword, evis, and chain axe outperform it at single target
coarse birch
hsword def does not outperform rashaad into ST it does well into every enemy and has BM
yeah i assume crusher is rage bait
spare dome
pls stop giving these things clicks
coarse birch
or he hasnt used the new one
coarse birch
pls stop giving these things clicks
i wanted to answer the question
coarse birch
crusher is more well rounded
fickle seal
Thammer subjectively does better than crusher no way
coarse birch
and has special stagger
maiden path
no the fuck it doesnt
spare dome
but you can do that without watching, the answer is tier lists suck and weapons are defined by utility and roles not a flat plane of output
coarse birch
thammer 100% does not do better than hammer unless we are talking about bosses
south folio
crusher and thammer fit different roles to the point that i'm not going to rank them and it's not like they're significantly perceivable in performance
fickle seal
wtf no way. lol respectfully of course.
That’s a good point. @south folio
coarse birch
crusher is very well rounded
maiden path
are crushers and thammers seperate weapons in lore
fickle seal
It’s okay, I’d take the shock maul over crusher for a well rounded weapon
south folio
the one noticeable thing i know is that crusher has better unyielding damage
beyond that, they're kind of the same to me
coarse birch
hammer?
south folio
crusher vs sauls
south folio
crusher also has a better push-attack than both
maiden path
oh yea what do I put on this
fickle seal
No way, versus unyielding specifically?? Does crusher one shot monstrosities now?
south folio
no
maiden path
i got an insane roll on the flamer staff
maiden path
what does run and gun get swapped too
rough galleon
Crusher push attack gets me off
coarse birch
crusher does not one shot monstrosities but this is not the line to cross to be good into unyielding
it still does notable damage
royal vortex
crusher hits a consistent two-shot one cycle on bulwarks
fickle seal
It does but not if you compare it to the thammer special. That’ll one shot executioners/bulwarks
royal vortex
and you don't have to bring a gun specifically because your weapon is awful into unyielding
crusher is special shield open into h1 block cancel h1 and you kill the bulwark always with headshots (assuming purge the unclean or +unyielding)
maiden path
do yall think they told him to pose like that or he just did it
south folio
well yeah but comparing a lot of things to thammer for unyielding damage is a moot argument anyways
maiden path
It does but not if you compare it to the thammer special. That’ll one shot execu...
executionors
what
do you mean reapers
south folio
unyielding damage isn't the be all and end all especially when you get a lot elsewhere with crusher
maiden path
when is vet getting a stubber
fickle seal
That’s my point though.
No I meant crushers, @maiden path if you use creature spawner their labeled as executioners I just got used to it lol
maiden path
i want some fucking heavy backpack required weapons
fickle seal
Cursed controller
ripe quest
https://youtu.be/rAlAqMv1he0?si=xeqT1KWD1dbS3byC
Thoughts on this?
Questionable. A few variants are so incredibly far from eachother that it's making me think that this list is hyper-opinionated instead of comparing performance (ie "I have a preferred variant, so the other variant(s) are unneeded and therefore bad" particularly in Caxe, Chaxe, Chainsword, and Evis' cases). Due to the nature of the game it's difficult to compare weapons to begin with if the scope is so broad, each person is going to value each category of weapons differently.
fickle seal
Questionable. A few variants are so incredibly far from eachother that it's maki...
That’s super true I didn’t think of it like that. At the end of the day honestly all weapons are viable in the right hands and with the right build. Plus it matters more about the team as a whole especially in aurics typically.
maiden path
ive been fucking punished for making a clown psyker, I havent got into a game since saturday
they all just inf load
fickle seal
Do you have any mods installed?
maiden path
I HAVE
9
its fatshark and I know it is
i run the game a couple times with and without mods
it was doing this then
fickle seal
Nevermind then lol
maiden path
before they went on vacation they looked on their big giant screen of monitors they use to watch matches and they saw me making a clown psyker
and they fucking locked me down
scenic chasm
crit eviscerator builds still go pretty hard
solar gorge
before they went on vacation they looked on their big giant screen of monitors t...
deserved tbh
fleet zealot
def not hard anymore, more like,
medium soft
they don't got good finesse and the blazing piety nerf was basically targeted to them specifically
fleet zealot
I found a meme so ancient. From a different time.
i miss it so much
buoyant pecan
From the days evis was so shit
ripe quest
wait that's mine
buoyant pecan
wait that's mine
Child. I am the one who wrote the old magic. Do not recite it to me
ripe quest
I also made this one
polar nexus
I found a meme so ancient. From a different time.
same era
misty nova
QQ for shredding cancel or just animation
buoyant pecan
QQ for shredding cancel or just animation
Animation cancel. Evis used to be giga dogshit but by installing a macro so you could QQ at inhumane speeds or by sacrificing your finger's tendons to the Machine Spirit, you could use its only good attack move to meat milkshake everything
solar gorge
the dark ages
spare talon
I REMEMBER THIS ONE
buoyant pecan
To think Veteran could press 1 Button and be the tankiest thing in the game back then
visual stream
Back when Ironhelm could only cleave through three enemies on special attack
polar nexus
I remember 75% dr crit zealots too
grizzled aspen
ive been fucking punished for making a clown psyker, I havent got into a game si...
Deserved tbh.
obsidian prairie
Connection issue
misty nova
Helldiver's zed time
shy onyx
polar nexus
trapper lover
polar nexus
one year and half ago :/
buoyant pecan
Back when Ironhelm could only cleave through three enemies on special attack
There was no ironhelm
visual stream
Pre tree patch, yes
buoyant pecan
This was then
polar nexus
the worst of the worst was probably the chain axe
visual stream
It wasn't base game but it came relatively early on
polar nexus
i don't remember the evis being that bad
polar nexus
It wasn't base game but it came relatively early on
around march or april
the thrust bug was fun lol, every zealot was running with a thunderhammer to hunt DHs