zealot-class

[polar nexus]

so if they rework weapons, current blessings and add new ones

[lusty turtle]

Im also removing duelist, it will be replaced by another sprint cost reduction node

[coarse birch]

POG

[cerulean moth]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

https://tenor.com/gKq1l2eTrc9.gif

[north sedge]

5% suppression node

[spare talon]

it now costs 5 more travel nodes to reach each keystone, with such amazing buffs as .25 stam recharge delay and -5% peril generated

https://tenor.com/view/monkeys-paw-paw-monkey-gif-17535679

[grizzled aspen]

Yup, instantly wiped not 3 minutes in because the level 16 blew up a barrel and launched someone into a dh.

[cerulean moth]

only if you remove this shit

[grizzled aspen]

And then promptly died.

[cerulean moth]

please

im begging you

[ripe quest]

Skele there are wonderous things that you spew from your mouth but your hands are commiting crimes rn

[lusty turtle]

Okay but have u ever run both stam delay nodes in a build before?

Its actually a little unhinged

[spare talon]

but its literally psyker

[coarse birch]

Psyker stam regen is already unhinged

[spare talon]

their stam is already regenning before a slide fucking ends

[lusty turtle]

2 more suppression nodes you say?

[coarse birch]

You can unironically spam push with no downtime

[cerulean moth]

NOOOOOOOOOO

REEE

REE

[grizzled aspen]

3 more suppression nodes, gotcha.

[vestal pine]

psyker has a stam regen node?

[cerulean moth]

Why must zealot be nerfed every patch

weakest class....

[lusty turtle]

We're replacing martyr with BLO on the zealot tree

[cerulean moth]

As long as I have marty

im ok

[spare talon]

my flamer now can have 2 free ammo in the mag!

[coarse birch]

Can you just remove everything skele

[spare talon]

can you remove my depression in the next patch

[vestal pine]

what was BLO again

[lusty turtle]

Adding depression boosting grey nodes

[spare talon]

[lusty turtle]

Burst limit overide, ogryn gunlugger keystone

[cerulean moth]

Make it so fire grenades interact with showstopper blessing on flamer

pls pls pls pls pls pls

[drowsy steppe]

can I say psyker talent tree is bloated as hell. Or is that an opinion that gets the persona non grata treatment

[vestal pine]

tbh i like that funny one

[left iron]

Finally, after a long wait

[lusty turtle]

8% chance to not consume ammo on shot

[cerulean moth]

let me blow up elites more

[ripe quest]

Aight, big brain idea. Can you try labbing out a talent tree redesign w/ Fatshark and their testing team? I'm thinking like, 2-3 rows of 6 talents. They'll mimic our current tree but it's far simpler and we get an overall power reduction, I'm thinking it'd create a better balance environment. (I'm sorry for the ghost ping I was lied to by discord)

WHAT

[drowsy steppe]

wrong tag LMAO

[cerulean moth]

Damn

[ripe quest]

HUH?????????

[lusty turtle]

Depends what you mean by bloat

[cerulean moth]

Caleb gotta get to work

[lusty turtle]

[ripe quest]

I literally typed your name and it showed your profile wtf

[left iron]

Rare Exhillious L

[ripe quest]

Discord literally just lied about who I was pinging wtf

[ripe quest]

I'm clipping that wtf

[coarse birch]

Also make one per row worth taking

[lusty turtle]

Stan has cursed me exhil

[spare talon]

i think its just constructed in a way that theres only like a few ideal paths
cuz its like most builds you have a choice of 2 different nodes and every time theres just a clearly superior one

[vestal pine]

tbh i do think zealot is still dead when vet exists so

[cerulean moth]

b-b-b-but sister of thorn???

but

[lusty turtle]

I must walk this earth with no name

Never to be spoken of

[cerulean moth]

https://tenor.com/bEFww.gif

[spare talon]

https://tenor.com/view/enricopucci-happy-happy-enrico-pucci-jojo-made-in-heaven-jojo-gif-26801198

[ripe quest]

DISCORD??????? HELLOOOOO????

Actually such a stupid program sometimes

[left iron]

You fool

[spare talon]

i didnt know he was freaky like that

[left iron]

Trusting whatever discord tells you

[cerulean moth]

What if darktide was called freaktide..

[left iron]

[frozen glen]

the flexibility

[north sedge]

i've been laughing at this one off and on most of the day

[ripe quest]

1-1-1-1-1-1 guy is turning in his grave

[cerulean moth]

Thats talent

[spare talon]

FOR THE RECORD???

[coarse birch]

Maybe he would return

[cerulean moth]

https://tenor.com/1o1z.gif

[spare talon]

WHAT DID HE HAVE TO CLEAR UP???

[cerulean moth]

That man just tried to share his BUILD

and we HATED on him

[coarse birch]

He cleans himself like a cat

So yeah

[cerulean moth]

you all don't get it

[lusty turtle]

I'll be honest and say the devs would probably kill me

Its a cool idea and i'd love to see player power go down but i think theres like... atleast some want to cater to the power fantasy

[coarse birch]

Yeah make them play a different game 🙂

[frozen glen]

need josho to ping him

[north sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/baldurs-gate-3-squirrel-wtf-omg-horror-gif-7126844352124115827

[ripe quest]

We're nearly a month away from this being a year old.

oooh I pinged them

[cerulean moth]

buff dreg gunners

[lusty turtle]

Na fuck that, buff scabs

Morvian supremacy

[frozen glen]

he was a copypasta for a few weeks

[cerulean moth]

wtf where u doing here bruh

[polar nexus]

buff poxbursters

[cerulean moth]

thats FOUL man

thats FOUL mal

[polar nexus]

each one is a frag bomb

[cerulean moth]

thats not cosher you can't do that to people

[spare talon]

morbius???????

[frozen glen]

you misspelt qosher

[cerulean moth]

Qosh on this dick

ah

gotem

right guys?

Guys

[spare talon]

its quoge baybeee

[cerulean moth]

https://tenor.com/Xiq9.gif

[ripe quest]

I have some great balance ideas (real ones) that I think would turn the code into this due to the raw energy behind them.

[frozen glen]

those ropes are actually organized

[cerulean moth]

They should make it so you can swap the location of neighboring talents like on a wheel

[frozen glen]

thats how theyre bundled

🤓

[ripe quest]

That's indeed the secret

[lusty turtle]

Goin back to this

Imo i think its less bloat and more too many nodes that are too strong (cdr on elite kill, soul blaze nodes, roughness on ANY warp kill)

Psyker actually has the least nodes and could honestly do with some extra options, and some new travel nodes, so you cwnt always have everything good on psyker all at once

[left iron]

Not the roughness

[cerulean moth]

roughness map

[lusty turtle]

Its 5am and im on my phone, forgive me

[left iron]

Understandable

[cerulean moth]

cant click on book

[left iron]

It is 7 am and i havent slept

[frozen glen]

you are on ur phone at 5 am

ur not forgiven

[cerulean moth]

TRUE

[ripe quest]

Under my rule of balance, tax nodes shall cease to exist. The way I will accomplish this shall not be public as to not cause mass hysteria. (hint hint what the fuck is a line).

[cerulean moth]

shame the mod

[polar nexus]

roughness on ANY warp kill) > that's mostly a problem for assail.... so just nerf assail

[drowsy steppe]

well from my opinion, which is not really well informed because I havent played Psyker in a long while. The top nodes are almost always mandatory to pick for survivability alone. The blitz and ult upgrade nodes have clear good and mid picks to take. Also why isnt there much freedom in node selection. What Im referring to is, certain node movements are locked, if the prerequisite nodes for them aren't taken. But the tree made it appear that you can take them.

I guess having a lot of toughness nodes is justifiable since Psyker has low base toughness. Which feeds into the idea of the class being a glass cannon class. Biased on my part: Psyker could use a higher base toughness

[cerulean moth]

erm actually the devs call them udders

[south folio]

psyker tree suffers from the contrary of not having that many permutations because of the natural locks

[lusty turtle]

I'm british, i have the sleepless debuff

[cerulean moth]

more like the stupid buff

[ripe quest]

The cow's udders and teats will look like a smash burger when I'm done with it

[cerulean moth]

am i right

[cerulean moth]

[polar nexus]

have you played ff12?

[frozen glen]

it is not coming home 😔

[south folio]

psyker's toughness imo is fine and it's just the other classes having easy AF +50% tdr talents

[lusty turtle]

Whats not

[spare talon]

it

[frozen glen]

forgive me i thought u were a football fan cuz british

[south folio]

even on psyker, it's hard to be punished when you can build to have extremely consistent toughness regen and being the class that has less reasons to be in melee distance of enemies

[lusty turtle]

Ew

[coarse birch]

Do i want to know how this is related

[south folio]

you don't already know?

[coarse birch]

Thats one of my fav games

And i cannot think of the connection

[lusty turtle]

I was discussin this recently and honestly

If you dont include shout or stealth, vet has the worst tough generation nodes

Like, CK and ET are great at ranged or if theres a special nearby, but all vet toughness requires kills

Not a single node lets you sustain any other way EXCEPT the one for being far away

[coarse birch]

I am both aggressive with psyker and i usually take one method of quelling peril and like 2 toughness regen nodes and i rarely have issue

[lusty turtle]

(Which is useless in most situations)

I should sleep before the sun comes up

[coarse birch]

Dont turn into me

[north sedge]

i agree they should add more nodes to warp charges specifically

[coarse birch]

Hrrgjyvgh

[north sedge]

put a whole constellation down there

[drowsy steppe]

this gets balanced out by stacking toughness and +50% tdr. The Fatshark way

[north sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/noite-gif-5390908634017861563

[south folio]

stuff like Mind in Motion needing something more (cough cough take movement speed away from mettle and perhaps put it into here)

[frozen glen]

unsolicited advice from a zealot main

[spare talon]

mind in motion currently is "god i guess ill take this one"

[south folio]

rebders.

[coarse birch]

Its so ass

Its essentially a base passive of the class

[south folio]

mind in motion is a metaphorical gun to my head if i want to take venting shriek from assail

[vestal pine]

does anything else proc electrocuted state?

other than psyker electro magics

[hushed agate]

I dont think so

[drowsy steppe]

actually though

[coarse birch]

Also shit like unlucky for some which i

Forget exists

[drowsy steppe]

the class design team really insist on making QoL class features not a baseline feature

[polar nexus]

the way your lvl up your characters

[vestal pine]

stun nades seem to proc the debuff

[nimble fiber]

[hushed agate]

Thats weird

They shouldn't

Electric and stun must share the same debuff and it was just an oversight

[vestal pine]

https://tenor.com/view/get-rotated-get-rotated-idiot-rotate-rotation-shark-gif-24511062

[maiden path]

theres a tiktok video

with that fucking ai voice

[hushed agate]

Yeah

[maiden path]

and it goes 'look at this guy'

and it starts cartwheeling

ok dont yea me pal

[hushed agate]

:(

[maiden path]

🖕

[hushed agate]

5 hours

[ivory marlin]

Days in the life of this thing

Wooooh yeah woahhhh

[vestal pine]

anyone use haymaker on knives?

[ivory marlin]

Idk man i just got off work

[maiden path]

yea that

[ivory marlin]

I love 2chubbs

[vestal pine]

i did for a while in mk3

might switch up again

[maiden path]

do u guys think that warhammer movie is gonna be good

[polar nexus]

if it is not about space marines

[hushed agate]

Even if it isnt itll probably still be cool as shit

Just the idea of a hour long movie about warhammer at the same quality as the trailers

Is hype

[ivory marlin]

Whats warhammer?

[hushed agate]

A war hammer (French: martel-de-fer, "iron hammer") is a weapon that was used by both foot soldiers and cavalry. It is a very old weapon and gave its name, owing to its constant use, to Judah Maccabee, a 2nd-century BC Jewish rebel, and to Charles Martel, one of the rulers of France.

[ivory marlin]

Oh ok

Why did they make a movie about that

[hushed agate]

The war hammer was a popular weapon in the late medieval period. It became somewhat of a necessity in combat when armor became so strong that swords and axes were no longer able to pierce and ricocheted upon impact. The war hammer could inflict significant damage on the enemy through their heavy impact without the need to pierce the armor.

[hushed agate]

Because its cool

[ivory marlin]

How many did you say there was? 40,000 or smth like that?

[hushed agate]

Ye theres a lot

[ivory marlin]

Damn

Sounds interesting

[maiden path]

https://tenor.com/view/gooner-gooners-in-chat-cat-raising-hand-gif-14414317106585060209

[ivory marlin]

Im no gooner

Its weird

[maiden path]

check again

[visual stream]

a day in the life of one of theses guys

weeeeeee

can you beat elden ring as trees?

[polar nexus]

https://youtu.be/eb0LyU0qXVQ?si=yqowFEVhbZf1z1ry

[prime ridge]

Does anyone happen to have a solid build with fire grenades, the corruption removing aura, and the prayer active? Lookin to get penances knocked out

[spare talon]

i can make one for you, what weapon you plan on using with it

oh damn that was 40 minutes ago lmao

[maiden path]

@spare talon are there any other weapons like sweet buisness and the actium war rig

also sorry 2 constantly ask 2 about destiny 2

[vestal pine]

dammit zealot lacks melee variety recommend a melee weapon for me to use :/

i dont wanna use knife again

[maiden path]

dclaw

[vestal pine]

already using mk7

might use mk4 again then

[vestal pine]

oh yeah i need one with decent AP pen so it can deal with crushers since im using a DBarrel

[austere grail]

These teams tonight

Omg

[austere grail]

Shock maul goes super hard

[vestal pine]

true

[lean lark]

thammer

rashad

crusher

all good options for armor

[vestal pine]

you know my proposition against thammers and armor

if you dont i can have a hour long rant about why thammer isnt anti armor but i dont wanna

crusher is good rashad is great i already use those sadly :(

dammit

time to get antax

[lean lark]

thammer isnt anti armor is a wild take but you do you

[maiden path]

speak boy

i wish to listen

[vestal pine]

no

[vestal pine]

tldr insane preconditions to oneshot without ult, and 2shots take yoo long time to be useful against crusher packs
i do base around everything on crusher packs so it might be shafted but thamemrs ahving stupid afterdelay doesnt help it in the slightest

ironhelm is beter on afterdelay dept but then it cant usually oneshot crushers

[south folio]

with the ironhelm, the solution is to just settle for non-ult twoshots which is, as you say, easier because it has a shorter afterdelay

or have a damage buff from SA or martyr/judgement for an fotf oneshot

[vestal pine]

fotf usually oneshots either way

and also no ulting for this comparison

[lean lark]

you can fight 6 crushers with thammer

[hushed agate]

Not this argument again

[south folio]

alright without ult, it's a twoshot with a short stun after each special for ironhelm

[vestal pine]

6 marty stack and desparation cant oneshot it, probably works with either backstabber or SA full stacks

[vestal pine]

i warned

[hard nexus]

and on crucius too

crucius can reach one shot with duellist, + cara, and marytrdom

but i still am a believer that the crucius should one shot with just thrust

[south folio]

and aside from special bps, you can always just finish off with normals if need be

lacerate just has inanely high requirements for what they consider "anti-armor"

it is not enough that they are good at it
they have to excel at it to be considered anti-armor

[hard nexus]

yeah true

[south folio]

which is evidently a position they take just for the sake of this argument

[vestal pine]

not really but sure

i do think i have set teh bar way too high

[hard nexus]

teh

teh random potatoe ecksdee

[south folio]

i'm pretty sure you just double-downed on this stupid position unless you really want to admit that you've always held this position, which i think is worse

[vestal pine]

unfortunately for you always was

[left iron]

I did disprove this a while back. My crucis hits for ~3561 with +cara, so you need an extra light with just marty,+cara and duellist

[hard nexus]

i reach it

i can show

it might be some other buff im not realizing

gimme a minute ill get a clip

[left iron]

Could be my missing 5 pen

[hard nexus]

lmfao

maybe

[south folio]

so you're just stupid and argue on the terms of your self-admittedly strict definition of "anti-armor" despite recognizing that other people have a significantly more lenient term for what they would call anti-armor

[south folio]

L

[left iron]

Common Ice L tbh

[south folio]

who's ice?

[left iron]

Wheres your crucis Alco?

[south folio]

laz snatched it with his mouth and ran away into the forest

[vestal pine]

look unless it can deal with crusher packs the AI likes to fuck pubs with easily i aint calling it anti armor

[south folio]

"...with easily"

truly the type of person to call non-meta weapons garbage

such is life

[vestal pine]

terrible english showing again, sorry

[hushed agate]

Be nice

[vestal pine]

https://tenor.com/view/random-bullshit-go-moon-knight-random-random-bullshit-gif-25725102

[vestal pine]

eh il be here for a while dw

[south folio]

i've already tried to argue in good faith before

so i'll skip to the aggressive phase

[hushed agate]

There doesn't need to be an aggressive phase if youre going to call people stupid

Its rude

[south folio]

oh i know i'm being rude and aggressive

i don't pretend that i'm a good person

i'm certainly no hypocrite

i know what i am

[hushed agate]

No youre a good person

[south folio]

doubtful

[left iron]

Wrong, hes a goose

[south folio]

no

[vestal pine]

honk

[hushed agate]

I dont associate with birds

[hard nexus]

stupid ogryn is not complying

@left iron https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/igUZ5mCZL6Q0_ZZDx/d1337VWbgOrG?invite=cr-MSxSTWcsMjA0ODY2MDQ3LA

ignore my epic fail and my fan in the background

[left iron]

Its literally the 5 pen im missing

[hard nexus]

my pen is 76

also thoughts on the build gang

[left iron]

I have a 80/80/80/72

[hard nexus]

is it worth to lost the tdr for second wind

[left iron]

Eh, thats up to you. Both are good

Theres something else i would switch around, but thats also personal preference

I would take throwing knives and sustained assault

[hard nexus]

oh

yeah h fair

[frozen glen]

gleeble glorb

[hushed agate]

Bleed maxing

Can probably proq even more bleed if you get one for vet and increase cc

Take melee bleed node

Take all the crit stuff

[vestal pine]

welp i tried

taxe 4

its decent

but not what i want i think?

idk

stealth DBarrel has potential and runngun does reduce spread enough to use it as a general blaster

[hushed agate]

What does "feats" mean?

[vestal pine]

what ults and what major stuff you took

oh yeah also

official

shotgun ammo

of the imperium

looks fine tbh

[vestal pine]

its ability-blitz-aura-keystone

so

red green yelow purple

i forget it at times

:/

[ember yew]

you didnt use piety? then that's the reason

piety tax at 75%+ critrate shred even crusher with autos

[vestal pine]

i use tax7 for this reason

it feels better

[vestal pine]

2nd keystone == marty btw

:3

ok recommend me a

thing to pair with

piety taxe7

i used my laspistol for the longest time

but might be time to switch

idk

[ember yew]

i dont use taxe7 because it's still not entirely fixed and 2nd light attack is still an ass, but if you use tax7 with piety, you can use whatever as ranged

[vestal pine]

true

you did seen my caxe and taxe and chaxe build right

they take different ults and keystones for maximum diverseness since i wanna match them like how i would do Set matches

[ember yew]

i don't really remember what people post with builds here

[vestal pine]

kek

and if i switch my caxe ranged into ironhelm ass shotgun

and chaxe was for quite a while lawbringer

im kinda forced to take something

that resembles a shotgun in my brain for taxe lol

guess i can write off laspistool as a shotgun

hope we get a las-shotgun one day

really would be cool

actual magfed """"""shotgun""""""

[hushed agate]

Unfortunately las shotguns dont exist

The closest we have is a illegal modification for the las gun

That disfocus' the beam and makes it really wide

I forgot what its called

[candid sorrel]

ive never played with a weapon this ignorant in my life

push attack staggers every enemy in the game aside from ogryns

brutal momentum clears hordes like butter

lights obliterate single targets

i dont have to think

[vestal pine]

ye that

Shotlas - An illegal modification of a standard Lasgun popular amongst the techwrights and armour-mongers of the world of Footfall, the "Shotlas" is rigged to discharge more energy per shot, at the cost of beam coherence, with the weapon's shots swiftly losing power and becoming ineffective at longer ranges.

alright

if the caxe gets assault shotgun

and

chaxe gets lawbringer shotgun

what would taxe get

:/

[hushed agate]

Id like that

Seeing as Grendel may be on the more radical side

As being part of his warband we could get access

Although personally id prefer if they just made up a new las weapon that splits the beams into multiple

Could have like a weird dome shaped barrel

Or some kind of glass that separates it

Something like this maybe?

Damn this image sucks

There

[vestal pine]

just destroy some lens in front of hadron that'll dissect the beam enough

imagine helbore but it fires shotgun shots instead

[meager bison]

Man this gun seems so cool but sucked in both games.

[hushed agate]

Unfortunate

Yet to play 2

Had no reason to use it in 1 cause you get it from the final boss

I guess theres the dlc

But i was so used to my hunting rifle spitfire set up by that point

[rocky marsh]

how do you "inspect" your weapon?

[vestal pine]

press v

[rocky marsh]

ah its x, but can't seem to see the underside of the weapon

[vestal pine]

underside?

[rocky marsh]

ye

[vestal pine]

i think the spin has a lock on it

[rocky marsh]

the underside of the handle

[vestal pine]

so its kinda scuffed

only in 1 direction

[rocky marsh]

you mean spin while inspecting? or is there a spin button

[vestal pine]

former

no spin button

[rocky marsh]

the caxe with the eagle

bottom part is gold

i caught it when my character spuin it

just want to see again

[meager bison]

2 will overtake 1 as my favorite as long as they add survival mode.

Best rogue-like I ever played is a DLC

[rocky marsh]

remnant?

[vestal pine]

in your hand?

[rocky marsh]

yeah

[vestal pine]

inspect animation on hand just has a chance to play

[rocky marsh]

i can check it out in weapon loadout

[vestal pine]

but i dont think caxe has a special anim

[rocky marsh]

i think its bronze

[vestal pine]

knife does

[rocky marsh]

then when the light hits it

then it becomes gold

btw does knife piety still work?

[meager bison]

Yes.

It's co-op too.

They basically edited the map to work in a straightforward flow.

The whole thing obviously didn't take a lot of effort, but they did it so well it was just amazing to play.

If there was some sort of meta progression, I would unironically have bought the "mode" as a normal full-price game.

[vestal pine]

piety knife always works

and its the one that endured the most from the invoc nerf

[meager bison]

Dagger zealots will never die

[rocky marsh]

will decapitator ever be relevant on caxe

[meager bison]

Unironically, if they buffed trappers, it would be a targeted nerf on dagger zealots.

[vestal pine]

decap is good tbh

just that its annoying

[rocky marsh]

you would miss gunner BPs if you havent killed anything in a bit right

[vestal pine]

smite psyker on your team? say goodbye to any of the shit you wanna do

[rocky marsh]

5 seconds

skill issue

[meager bison]

No u

[vestal pine]

decap bonus is p good

but its very situational

meanwhile headtaker:

[rocky marsh]

sefoni being an announcer is much better than hadron

annoying bitch

[vestal pine]

eh i like tech nanny more

[meager bison]

Cold ruthless robo lady does it for me too

Brick my gear harder

[hushed agate]

I prefer morrow

❤️ ❤️

The mission dialogue with him making fun of wolfer in the intercepted vox transmissions is genuinely peak

[rocky marsh]

the guy right

yeah not bad

i genuinely disliek hadron

knife psyker still fun, also was wondering how come i am not hitting bps...

[hushed agate]

I like hadron

Fucking despise zola though

She is such a boring cunt

The game trys to make her seem interesting with the twins fight and the seer/sefoni

But no amount of backstory will get me to like a character that has 0 personality

[spare dome]

Zola really is the worst figurehead

She's also immensely unprofessional lmao, and that was before we had the twins stuff.

[rocky marsh]

i just find hadron'

s lines very cringe

[spare dome]

Hallowette literally does a better job of managing mission comms during a mission than Zola does.

[hushed agate]

Zola acts serious but she is such a damn dunderhead

[spare dome]

And Hallowette is just a money monkey.

[hushed agate]

I dont much like hallowette either but i think thats my bias speaking

If she was disconnected from the money shop id probably like her

[spare dome]

I think that's a pretty lame reason but you do you.

[hushed agate]

Its silly for sure

[spare dome]

Never heard anybody shittalk Lohner for selling hats.

[rocky marsh]

also I feel FT uncanny > precog uncanny

[hushed agate]

Vermentide had a much less predatory shop

[spare dome]

Sure.

[hushed agate]

I dont like hallowette because she sells stuff i dislike her because the shop is designed to be the worst possible shit in every feasible way

Bad cosmetics fomo cant buy cosmetics outright will usually have left over currency that isnt enough to buy something

[spare dome]

Yeah I hate how Hallowette the video game character actually manifested the code in her own game store.

[hushed agate]

I already said it was a stupid reason

[spare dome]

Truly devious.

[rocky marsh]

knife light spam > heavy spam
change my mind

[spare dome]

I hate her character, she's a shifty con artist and charlatan. But she's much better written than Zola, despite Zola having roughly ten times the screen time. Not including journals.

Zola is a single personality, nervously overwrought, and her actual value as a mission leader is intensely suspect. Especially when you stack her up against Morrow.

[hushed agate]

Actually baffling how much spotlight they put on the equivalent of white unbuttered toast

[spare dome]

Her existence should have been airlocked ages ago for incompetence.

[rocky marsh]

i like the funny guy on missions the most

forgot his name

[spare dome]

Kayex?

[hushed agate]

Barber?

[spare dome]

Or the barber?

[hushed agate]

OH

[rocky marsh]

not sure

[hushed agate]

SHIP ENGINE GUY

he doesn't have enough lines

[spare dome]

One is a robot. So.

[rocky marsh]

not robot

kayex is the new robot right?

got added recently

[spare dome]

"Pre-servitors" gets a laugh out of me every time.

[hushed agate]

Tbh he'd be my favorite if he had more lines

The way he talks about the servo skull makes me giggle

[rocky marsh]

iirc its the guy that bickers with zola i think

[hushed agate]

Swagger?

Swaggers cool but i have yet to hear him interact with anyone other than rannick and hadron

[rocky marsh]

might be swagger

[spare dome]

But yeah Hallowette is made to not be liked

Zola was made to be liked

In terms of character design only one succeeded here

[hushed agate]

Tbh besides what i mentioned earlier i like hallowette as a concept

but she doesn't seem to have much substance beyond

Being a jackass i guess

[spare dome]

Actually I should rephrase that Zola is meant to be empathized with but all I think is that she's a dumbass

[hushed agate]

What are you supposed to emphasize with her about

That her unlisted assassination mission got shut down because it was unlisted?

Tbf i think ranicks reasoning for wanting to pull us out is stupid but there is nothing to feel bad about for her

[spare dome]

She's an Atoman native and you're meant to care that she cares about succeeding at the missions in general.

[hushed agate]

Thats dumb

[spare dome]

But I mostly just see Rannick as entirely correct that she's overly invested emotionally in every mission she touches.

[spare dome]

I also don't see why Zola gives a shit about Atoma at all beyond being born there.

We don't have a backstory that makes her connection to the place clear to us. And all we know is that the place is shitty, dangerous, and gang infested, and has nearly killed her her entire life until she got out.

It's like Al Capone being wistful about saving Alcatraz.

So for us it just comes from nowhere.

I've said it before but DarkTide would have benefitted from less story, not more.

[frosty herald]

I might be wrong

But are there just 0 gaols's in the elden ring dlc

[spare dome]

We didn't need any of the prison break scenes. Pulling a knife out of Zola is not a character connection. The entire traitor story does nothing and goes nowhere.

[frosty herald]

Not talking dungeons just the circle

[spare dome]

The game would have been 10x more intruiging if you just made a character and got dumped into the 'I am a Warrior' scene with Grendyl and then the rest is left for you to gather during and inbetween missions.

[frosty herald]

Imagine if the voice actress for zola couldnt work on darktide anymore and thats why she was put in the background after the mission

[placid fiber]

but dude... you got worm bros instead...

Sure some are angry wormies, but, you got cool wormies none the less

[hushed agate]

I disagree personally

But

The prison ship sequence is poorly done

And needs refining

Also

Yall think are backstories will ever mean anything

[spare dome]

They do mean something. For 40K nerds.

[hushed agate]

Id like my zealot to talk about his time in the mines, and for my ogryn to talk about the fring wars

[hushed agate]

Not in game

[spare dome]

I watched so many 40K fans basically cream their jorts on stream when they saw Cadia as a home planet choice.

[hushed agate]

People who choose cadia as there home planet are fucking boring tbh

I only chose it cuz its the only way to get purple eyes

Which is weird

[placid fiber]

I think I only chose Cadia specifically for the eye colors...

[hushed agate]

SAME

[placid fiber]

and just cuz I could more than anything

[spare dome]

And yeah the lack of meaningful impact from backstory choices

Just reinforces my position tbh lol

They really tried to make a bunch of details meaningful but flubbed it

[placid fiber]

I mean I chose stuff cuz I could, I didn't really understand much besides Cadia was destroyed when I first played darktide

[spare dome]

You could have gotten better mileage by narrowing the scope of the narrative

All we need to know is a) you are cannon fodder b) for a guy named Grendyl and c) welcome to the Mourningstar. We're headed to Atoma.

The prison break only exists to set up Wolfer (which new cutscenes already do better) and Zola (who sucks)

It also stands as a tutorial admittedly but that could have been anything

[hushed agate]

I feel like if we didnt have at least some attempt at lore itd be boring

It warhammer after all

[spare dome]

Man, I could care less lmao

I'm here to kill shit. And they handle the story poorly enough that I'm the opposite of interested.

[placid fiber]

I mean it's cool they tried at least, but, I didn't get darktide because of the lore

[spare dome]

If they did it well then sure. Didn't happen though.

[hushed agate]

I dont think many share your opinion

[spare dome]

I'm just staunchly pragmatic about this stuff.

Also have an english degree for whatever that's worth.

So it's pretty clear to me what did and didn't work narratively.

[hushed agate]

What does sta-nchi pra pragm pragmatic mean

[spare dome]

Lots of time and money and development was spent on establishing story beats that went nowhere.

[frosty herald]

It also feels like there are no stakes

[vestal pine]

lorewise cadians have that wierd eye color cause they are constantly exposed to eye of terror, which now exists as a grand rift to split the imperium into two halves

[frosty herald]

Nothing threatens the mourningstar or shows how dire atoma is

[vestal pine]

it is unique to cadians and apprantly their eyecolor is quite recognizable to others apprantly? idk

least thats what i remember

[polar nexus]

Unique to cadians

[hushed agate]

Laaaaaame

Let me say its a genetic error

Or sum shit

Laaaaaaaaaaaame

[frosty herald]

I wonder if cadians are warp resistance or have a weakness to the warp due to being close to the eye of terror

We know new cadia and new catachan exist

[hushed agate]

What happened to catachan

I thought they were doing fine

[frosty herald]

Nothing

[vestal pine]

when did neo catachan exist

[frosty herald]

They just colonised another planet

[vestal pine]

sounds about right

[hushed agate]

Catachans feel like the anime protagonists of warhammer

[frosty herald]

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/New_Catachan

[hushed agate]

Do they even have flaws

[vestal pine]

galactic core? isnt that place right near the maledictum?

[vestal pine]

they can die

[frosty herald]

Imperium were like this planet sucks ass and cadians loved it because the fauna and flora was exactly like their homeworld

[hushed agate]

Primarchs have died dont mean grut

[vestal pine]

still a flaw

its like a simple phrase "if you cut of its head it dies"

[frosty herald]

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/New_Cadia

[spare dome]

thoonderstorm

also to be clear i didnt mean the game should never have had a story

i just mean of the elements fatshark had available and put together... well the term 'kill your darlings' comes to mind

[hushed agate]

Ik

[spare dome]

but man

zola really, really, really sucks lmao

i wanna learn more about Rannick, not this frazzled bitch

[rocky marsh]

i want warhammer fps where i play as the mighty skaven

🐭

[spare dome]

yes-yes slay-flay man-things

[rocky marsh]

die, respawn

[hushed agate]

Warhammer doom like where you play as an ork

[vestal pine]

rannick's probably busy trying to appeal to grendyl more to get him into inquisitor business on its own

[rocky marsh]

isn't that the plane game iirc

i remember there was a warhammer ork plane game

[spare dome]

yea that samuel l jackson movie, waaaaghs on a plane

[hushed agate]

Name any movie but replace a word with WAAAGHHGH

[spare dome]

Schindlers Waaaaaagh

[hushed agate]

WAAGH before Christmas

[rocky marsh]

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[spare dome]

its not my fault i have dementia

[rocky marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-smacking-other-cat-cat-cat-smack-cat-swat-gif-10347810988835752163

[rocky marsh]

you are sentenced to eat 12x warpstone so you can be mutated and put into battle

[spare dome]

good thing my cat isnt afraid of thunder

cause woooooo this a nice storm

[placid fiber]

Could one call it... a monsoon?

[spare dome]

nah just a regular ol storm

[hushed agate]

Auric storm

[spare dome]

a storm of ass which i must survive

[placid fiber]

Just don't try to ride it, okay?

It's not a pony...

<.<'

[misty nova]

DokTOR
Turn off my skill issue inhibitors

[spare dome]

we did

[fleet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/deer-hand-gif-4718254

[misty nova]

https://tenor.com/view/doktor-turn-off-my-diarrhea-gif-18914453

Didn't little V cover the intro for the deer girl thingy?

Gotta check that one out

[placid fiber]

I don't get it

[fleet zealot]

How

[merry flume]

you guys arguing about semantics again

[fleet zealot]

No?

[merry flume]

ok good

[hushed agate]

Moses is a character from the bible known for parting the red sea

Idk im not christain

[hushed agate]

Recon sure is my favorite weapon to use on zealot

[vestal pine]

i wish o had it on zealot

[fleet zealot]

damn rough blessings if this was on vet tho it could owrk

juist change both blessings

you can get rending talents for crushers

[vestal pine]

psyk

[fleet zealot]

that's a bumner

[placid fiber]

I knew that much, I meant I don't get why the headphones broke

[hushed agate]

Because moses split them

[placid fiber]

Huh

[royal vortex]

"there are skyfires at the end event"

boom 90% of maps solved

[open pollen]

Thought the same thing.

[royal vortex]

the only skyfire explanation i like is the one where swagger does it off screen and he doesn't even know if he did it right

[open pollen]

Also, is it weird I think this blockout looks better than the finished product? Something about this image is very easy on my eyes.

[royal vortex]

that's the power matrix mid event isn't it

[merry flume]

ur addicted to tf2

[open pollen]

Clearly.

[royal vortex]

that room just kinda sucks in general from a gameplay standpoint

it's not a well designed event

[open pollen]

Probably my second least favorite, after the one on excise vault.

[royal vortex]

nothing really spawns and the room isn't very conducive to having stuff spawn and be fun to fight

[merry flume]

it's ok but people suck at killing specials/elites so it falls apart the moment one person folds

[fleet zealot]

gives tf2 vibes but ehh,

[royal vortex]

unlike say refinery delta end where you could fix most of its issues by changing up spawn locations n stuff

[merry flume]

when nobody kills tox bombers and tox flamers so you can't see anything

[royal vortex]

that can happen on any part of any map

[open pollen]

I also like how the floor has this slight tilt to it.

[royal vortex]

the event has minimal unique gameplay and significantly reduced spawns compared to traversing the level normally

which is

bad

[open pollen]

I hope they consider that and the Excise Vault mid event for refurbishing

[royal vortex]

also on the topic of "chunks" i predicted the intersection of the mercantile and warren maps

kind of

but i thought the area you'd go through an airlock in in warren would be a playable area that you'd fight through

[serene geyser]

why does quickplaying an auric give +20% exp?
why would they do that

[royal vortex]

once u know what you're looking for you can find the really easy-to-modify terrain bits where something interesting is just blocked behind a fence or some wood boards

[vestal pine]

i like the one you manually cut out the skyfire

[royal vortex]

quickplay used to not have any rewards

[merry flume]

I think Darktide should get one mission that has a solo section just for funnies

[royal vortex]

and then they added some to incentivize doing it

[open pollen]

There's a lot of Out of Bounds areas I hope we get to visit in future maps. The distillery floor in the Carnival gives me Assassination Arena vibes, for instance.

[serene geyser]

isn't exp useless if youre not levelling tho

[open pollen]

And the spooky red church

[royal vortex]

for sure

that's the cool thing about dt maps i think

the "reusability" also offers you perspective flips and ideas for new areas within an existing zone

[merry flume]

idk why level ups don't give loot like vermintide did

[open pollen]

Folks really gave FS grief about reusing parts of maps but I really dig the concept myself. I just wish we had more maps to make use of it.

[royal vortex]

also fatshark does a really good job of creating areas good for different gameplay styles which is one thing i can consistently give them praise for in maps

[serene geyser]

there should be more assassination missions i love that my reward for a mission well done is gang banging some punk in carapace

[royal vortex]

take an exe stance bolter and really try to shoot from as far away as you can on like magistrati or enclavum barross

you will ascend

[lusty turtle]

Its great but they seem to only do 3 maps per zone and that kinda makes me sad

[merry flume]

I hope they reuse more map parts because it all gears up for practice for the chaos wastes mode

[lusty turtle]

Gimme more throneside

[serene geyser]

god i hope they add it

[royal vortex]

we got 4 for one of them

i think

the chasm terminus zone i wanna say

[serene geyser]

chaos wastes random builds were so goddamn fun after 500 hours

[lusty turtle]

Unless the target is over 100m away

[royal vortex]

inter-zone void would be so fuckin cool to see more of. i still want a big Moebian Iron Mine tileset

like the underground stuff from vt2

[royal vortex]

most sightlines are pushing 80m tbf

there's only a few outliers

[fleet zealot]

does orthus offensive count as a torrent mission? in that case

[open pollen]

I am very surprised we don't have a "Mirrored Mode" condition. Where maps are flipped. Call it "Warp Influence" or something. Warp Warping.

[vestal pine]

i like it, took me 1.5k hours to realize what hab dreyko had anythign to do with chasm terminus

[merry flume]

evil torrent

[lusty turtle]

Oh ye true but its still makes me angy

[vestal pine]

sometimes it's annoying

[royal vortex]

oh this is chasm logistratum mid event

this is another bad one

[merry flume]

orthos offensive is such a cool looking map with rtx on too bad raytracing kills my frames

[royal vortex]

this one is a really bad data interrogator because there aren't multiple

there's a singular one you always have to go to which creates 0 variability

[open pollen]

Wait, which one were you talking about?

DT kinda has a lot of "mid" mid events.

[royal vortex]

(do not get me started on warren mid event)

[merry flume]

hehe big servitor

[lusty turtle]

All events should be the gloriana finale from now on

[royal vortex]

anything with a single data interrogator in a mostly-open room is super repetitive and lacking gameplay

[vestal pine]

as a mid even i think it is fine

[hushed agate]

I like this one tbh. Just needs an extra skull spot and its perfect

[fleet zealot]

the worst mid event imo is the hourglass power cell giant fan mid event

[vestal pine]

but gloriana finale was definitly icing on the cake

[fleet zealot]

it's absolutely bipolar and i'd take a boring data interrogator spot over it any day

[merry flume]

it's a player filter

[open pollen]

I disagree. I love speedrunning that one.

[fleet zealot]

either you have a team that does the event perfectly and it's done in less then a minute

[royal vortex]

i quite enjoy the relay station mid event

[fleet zealot]

or you have absolutely brainless clowns

who sit in a corner

[open pollen]

That's more a team issue than a map issue, no?

[fleet zealot]

and your team just gets whittled to dust

[royal vortex]

events probably shouldn't be a breather from regular gameplay

[hushed agate]

loud incorrect buzzer

[misty nova]

The shotgunner about to 100-0 me when I'm on the upper part of it

[fleet zealot]

the map issue is that it's too variable depending on team coordination

[merry flume]

or you get people who tunnel on pox walkers and get owned by all the disablers that spawn in the fire escape

[open pollen]

The Giant Fan mid event is fairly unique and downright iconic. I shan't permit its slander without rebuke

[royal vortex]

excise vault mid event has really good aesthetics

[fleet zealot]

most other events I can solo if given time

[royal vortex]

i wish they leaned more into "servitor graveyard" for this part though

the rest of the map is kinda just dusty

[merry flume]

the entrance of this room is also a noob trap

[hushed agate]

Graveyard?

[fleet zealot]

fan event i basically have to rely on my teammates , i need at least 2 competent teammates that WON't go try to waste time saving the 4th person being a fucking idiot

[royal vortex]

imagine if the walls had like rows of waiting to be decommissioned servitors or smth

[hushed agate]

Oh to be added to the colony yeah id like that

[lusty turtle]

Honestly what i want is actual like

Setup moebian ambushes

[royal vortex]

imagine if that was the warren mid event

you know what i want warren's mid event to be

[merry flume]

you pretty much have to pray that the first core isn't on the opposite side

[royal vortex]

like the sycorax one

but you're being assaulted by moebian squads instead of 8 million poxwalkers

[lusty turtle]

Dude

[open pollen]

Personal favorite mid events. I'd say, Giant Fan in hourglass, despite Amelia's lamentation. The new one in the Void that you can speedrun is pretty toit too. And Archivum Sycorax! I enjoy the ones you can "Speed up" by doing efficiently. As opposed to the ones where the only speeds are "Slow" and "Slower".

[royal vortex]

and you have to do a data interrogator to open the next door (once) and u progress forward

[lusty turtle]

The moebians are so under utalized

[royal vortex]

the void mid event is really good

[fleet zealot]

YES

[royal vortex]

shooter hell the first couple times you play it

cuz u dont know the spawns

[fleet zealot]

WE HAVE A FUCKING bounty on our head by the 6th

have fucking squads come after us led by an ambush captain

[royal vortex]

that map has multiple "mini events" that make the gameplay feel more cinematic

[merry flume]

reaper/gunner squad

[fleet zealot]

have it in the monstrosity pool

[merry flume]

all you hear is fire then 10000 bullets

[royal vortex]

the entire lead up to the end event from when you push the button to summon the elevator to finishing smashing the ice on the gears is sick

[lusty turtle]

I know story wise they make no sense, but twins should invade merchantile again

[fleet zealot]

have you ever had the ogryn horde variant?

[royal vortex]

the twins shouldve just been a regular boss rotation

[merry flume]

they laugh don't they

[fleet zealot]

just have modified t.captains

t. captains need a soft rework anyways

[royal vortex]

also they need to unnerf traitor captains and fix magistrati spawns AGAIN

[vestal pine]

tbh i like the concept

[open pollen]

Imagine a mid event's just a transport carrier crashing through a wall and you have to rebuff its contents, and then a second wave rappels from the ceiling. Something dynamic like that would be dope!

[royal vortex]

it's still broken if you dps check it with even moderate efficiency

[vestal pine]

just make them spawn as a boss ffs

[royal vortex]

you won't get anything but poxwalkers until the guy is dead

[open pollen]

Here's crazy idea. Mid Event Assassination Target fight.

[vestal pine]

just a random scab captain with his "killteam" of crushers n shit rush your ass

[open pollen]

Except we're the one's they're trying to assassinate

[royal vortex]

i want magistrati to be a multi stage fight

[vestal pine]

what was magistrati

[royal vortex]

where you get the guy down to half health and then he fart clouds to an area above where you are

[lusty turtle]

Thry already have the wall breaching bosses right? Literally use that and instead of the boss roar spawn noise you get the muffled noise of them placing a det pack

[royal vortex]

and you have to fight up the catwalk

[royal vortex]

torrent assassination

u start in da sewers

[vestal pine]

ah right

you really wanna do the funny TP shit karnak twins do for normal caps

idk if i like that

i just want actual scab killteams

we already have patrols

[merry flume]

ambush squads that breach walls and use smoke grenades would kinda be funny

[royal vortex]

the magistrati fight just sucks rn

[vestal pine]

instead of a boss spawn,

like

[royal vortex]

the arena isn't very interesting and the guy just dies

[lusty turtle]

Brainblast moment

[vestal pine]

make it spawn a decently sized killteam spawn where captain keep reinforces enemies

[royal vortex]

https://tenor.com/view/falling-drunk-shocked-surprised-gif-15546336

scab captain when he drops off his weird cliff thing and just gets destroyed by 3 crackheads and an ogryn with a pickaxe

[vestal pine]

the other one is more fun just cause of more spawn it has

tbh

if he wanted to win he could've just surrounded the elevator with 20 maulers

[open pollen]

I think it'd be cool if they incorporated the cells into the fight more. Like have elites be hanging out in them and all the doors open when the dude gets below half health.

[royal vortex]

a funny thing i found out is branx fights a scab captain identically to a thunderhammer

because the heavies go way over the per-hit damage cap on the shield

so u lightspam it

[north sedge]

should add some version of the elite monsters stuff from vt2

[vestal pine]

and then wait for the shield off and then thrust his ass

[lusty turtle]

New elite "kill team" shooters, they use thw high skull faced helmets from the OG gameplay trailer

Only spawn as an "ambush", do not count as elite or specials, but are tougher more aggressive units sent to hunt you

[royal vortex]

could you imagine a mid event being the strike team stumbling into a cult of admonition fighting pit

and you have to fight like a roided up plague ogryn

that would be sick

[spare dome]

bring back nurgloth the eternal

[open pollen]

Ah, like that one condition we don't have anymore. What was it called.

With the fewer, but tougher, enemies.

[royal vortex]

give the bosses ranged attacks that aren't stupid slow into getting vommed bullshit

[north sedge]

https://youtu.be/3n7eNFj_9Vk?si=5q5D6XEtSZu4uKWt fight this motherfucker

[royal vortex]

i wish

[merry flume]

that fight was a little too hard to the average vermintider when it first came out

[royal vortex]

also i want more mid-tier melee elites

[spare dome]

good

[royal vortex]

where lightning reflexes has a purpose

[spare dome]

cause the vt2 fights are mostly a joke

and if it wasnt for captain having a shield these ones would be too

[royal vortex]

magistrati is boring af

[open pollen]

What, like an Ogryn Rager?

[merry flume]

people who would still try to get most kills while nurgloth was hard focusing them

[royal vortex]

chasm station is fun in monstrous specials

[merry flume]

give us an area that's like chaos wastes final area

[royal vortex]

i was more thinking like shield-and-mace navy breacher-style stuff

eeeevill arbites maybe

[vestal pine]

imagine giving them lasgunsbut they burst the entire mag like a gunner

[spare dome]

i remember my brain being blown away when skarrik pulled out his daggers to attack because it had been over 1,500hrs since i had last seen him survive for longer than his introductory voiceline

[open pollen]

Ah, like what VT2 has, no?

[vestal pine]

the new one?

[royal vortex]

some shielded enemies would be nice

i dont really want shielded trash

[vestal pine]

hes kinda joke last i heard

[royal vortex]

i think u would do strange things to dt gameplay if u opened that can of worms too wide

[vestal pine]

i do want some shield stormvermin action in DT

though idk how it'd work since in VT2 staminas are easy to come by and the rat opens up to attacks if you just push 3 times

[open pollen]

Imagine Zarona Revolver enemies.

[royal vortex]

i also want psyker enemies that buff the bad guys

[vestal pine]

dreg snipers

[spare dome]

and twist my nuts with brain burst

[merry flume]

i think darktide should get shielded small/medium enemies

[royal vortex]

dt stamina is really fuckin forgiving if you have any ranged enemies in the area at all

[hushed agate]

I cast full body carpet burn!

[vestal pine]

that is true

[royal vortex]

because you will get shot, take some toughness damage, and recover like 50% stamina

[open pollen]

Exactly.

[royal vortex]

which is a lil absurd

[vestal pine]

i do wanna see some dreg psyker specials

like uh

[royal vortex]

old vet you used to have to get shot to recover stamina in a fight

because you had 1.25s stamina regen delay

[vestal pine]

idk dreg sniper that try to brainburst you

[spare dome]

yeah damn

[royal vortex]

that shit was insane dude i cannot believe i played through that

[spare dome]

i spent a good amount of time learning to solo a chaos spawn as a melee vet

[vestal pine]

you get a clear indicator warning on your screen that you are being brainbursted

[spare dome]

now im way too powerful

cspawn stands no chance

[royal vortex]

i refuse to properly learn cspawn because i want the magic to stay there

[hard nexus]

give us a plague marine multi stage fight

[royal vortex]

No.

[merry flume]

https://tenor.com/view/archvile-intro-doom-eternal-demon-gif-16987418

[open pollen]

That'd be toit. I suggested facing corrupted rejects as like, a raid boss thing. But this would probably be a better implementation for a standard enemy.

[spare dome]

i just learned it over time

[vestal pine]

can we stop talking about marines

[royal vortex]

keep the speysh muhrines OUT of my game

[rocky marsh]

i played zealot too much now i don't know how to play ogryn, keep getting chunked by ranged fire :v

[north sedge]

they should add a recoiless rifle

[spare dome]

i find fighting the monstros in psykh to be a great way to deflate all the tension of this game

[royal vortex]

melee enemies are ur friend

ranged enemies not so much

[vestal pine]

bonus points if he tries to shield and also blow his own head off in the process

[rocky marsh]

i understand, but not always i can find a dummy to refill toughness

[royal vortex]

u just keep regenning from melee constantly

[frosty herald]

Give us a daemon engine

[royal vortex]

and u dodge

[merry flume]

i played with dodge/crouch on the same key for so long that i literally cannot slidedodge without it 😔

[royal vortex]

u have to

[hard nexus]

that would be awesome

[open pollen]

And it'd probably be slower than normal BB. And of course the guy would be standing still while they did it.

[royal vortex]

or u take like an inspiring barrage ripper 5 and shoot it at the ranged guys to suppress them and immediately refill the whole toughness bar

[vestal pine]

yeah

[royal vortex]

(inspiring barrage ba mk5 ripper is a lil underrated, it's sick)

[vestal pine]

but instead of doing shit to toughness it just straight chunks your health off

[rocky marsh]

is inspiring barrage a blessing or skill node

[open pollen]

You could also make it a LOS thing if it needed further nerfing. So it's more a "Don't stand out in the open too long" thing.

[royal vortex]

blessing

[vestal pine]

blessing

[hard nexus]

node

[royal vortex]

toughness regenned per 15% of mag fired

[vestal pine]

i think LoS is the best

[rocky marsh]

oite i will try that

I died 2-3 times on ogryn and all were genuinely my fault

[open pollen]

Enemy psyker sheilds might also be neat.

[royal vortex]

with ripper's fire rate you can get like 2x your total toughness back (still capped at 100%)

[vestal pine]

if someone gave gold toughness at you you can just dump mag and befreeeeee

[hard nexus]

society

[royal vortex]

ogryn is the class most annoying to learn because you have worse dodges and a lot of your weapons feel like you're on some kind of input delay because of the swing/chain time

[vestal pine]

genuinely ogryn just feels that have a input delay

like the charge having input delay

:/

[royal vortex]

i have the funniest charge clip someone will ever make

[royal vortex]

let me find it

[hard nexus]

then post it gooblet

[rocky marsh]

my first class was ogryn and i was somewhat decent
(maybe because i played shield first) but eh

I feel ogryn heavies take a decent amount of time to wind up, so you really need to learn when to release assuming no thrust

[royal vortex]

https://streamable.com/2m7jnl

nothing beats this

[vestal pine]

you racing into the night?

nvm thats the other one

[royal vortex]

i was so goddamn mad

but it's just incredible

[hard nexus]

lmfao

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/live-jonkler-reaction-joker-batman-arkham-man-gif-17809721599016283530

[hard nexus]

awesome

[vestal pine]

that wall eats every ult

i still dont get why some ults need to be on the ground

entirely

[rocky marsh]

mutie gave you BBQ?
Wats new boss

[hard nexus]

idk where i saw this

[vestal pine]

is that a g36c

[hard nexus]

but it’s slop

[royal vortex]

ogryn in duos is so fuckin infuriating sometimes

[hard nexus]

yeah

[royal vortex]

because ur slow ur dodges are awful and it takes like 3x as long to queue up a push as a human class on 90% of weapons

[vestal pine]

idk

[hard nexus]

me personally

[open pollen]

You know, upon review, I might just dislike Data Interrogator mid events. Excluding Excise Vault, all of the mid events I don't care for revolve around babysitting a single data interrogator.

[hard nexus]

i’d survive

[vestal pine]

unless its a stubber i think the delay is between columnus and a flamer

gorgonum takes long as a bolter i think

[royal vortex]

have u ever fired a ripper once

[rocky marsh]

no bos

[vestal pine]

i use ripper

[royal vortex]

with its fire delay and the worst fucking brace animation ever

[vestal pine]

they have... decent aqusition times

oh right the brace

yeah with brace its worse than bolters

[royal vortex]

i mean when you pull the trigger it takes time before it actually fires

it's pretty bad

[vestal pine]

does it?

never noticed, huh

[royal vortex]

especially if you have to get a split-second special kill to stop a trapper net from hitting you