zealot-class

[maiden path]

a shortsword and longsword are functionally different yet they retain similar naming because they are both swords, one is short and the other long, why wouldnt the chainsword and evis be named similarly if they are both swords that use chains

[grizzled aspen]

Dude.

This "namesake" argument you've got going on is awful.

[maiden path]

in that you cannot get mad at me for mistaking the two on a 2d plane

[grizzled aspen]

Just because it's a sword doesn't mean it has to have "sword" in its name.

You want me to name every type of sword ever made that doesn't explicitly name itself a sword?

[maiden path]

yes, but WHY

they are SWORDS

[tropic pelican]

Would you not confuse them more if they were named similarly

[royal vortex]

are you also angry at the distinction between zweihander vs greatsword vs claymore

[maiden path]

it is a function that makes no sense

[grizzled aspen]

I swear to God I'll do it.

Every last sword on Earth.

That isn't explicitly named "sword."

[maiden path]

those are from different times and places

a chainsword and evis both come from warhammer

[royal vortex]

warhammer spans like 10k years?

[maiden path]

same idea of a weapon but they are named different

[royal vortex]

what

[left iron]

What a fucking L take

[north sedge]

lol

[south folio]

warhammer 10k

[maiden path]

one is a real life application the other is a fucking scifi universe

[grizzled aspen]

All swords have the same idea, it came free with being a fucking sword.

And they function vastly differently despite being swords.

[royal vortex]

how does being from a scifi universe apply any meaningful distinction when you just tried and failed to say a sickle is a short scythe

and those are entirely real objects

[maiden path]

no u fucks

[north sedge]

i love how one by one people are coming into this and immediately going "jesus christ beb beb"

[south folio]

a shirt is pants with 1 extra hole

[maiden path]

the here and now dont try and take an argument from the past

[grizzled aspen]

Scimitars, kukri, saex knives (which are technically shortswords), falchions, and khopeshes all function like axes even though they're swords.

[royal vortex]

i thought you were defending your arguments from an onslaught

[spare dome]

did you guys know they gave margarine a different name even though it's spread on toast exactly like butter

really makes you wonder about the universe

[south folio]

toast? you mean bread

[maiden path]

hold on no let me go the first place this argument came from

[grizzled aspen]

No, let's not.

[royal vortex]

butter and mayonnaise can both be put on grilled cheese but they share no similar naming scheme

[grizzled aspen]

You're wrong and you need to stop talking for your own sake.

[royal vortex]

what is this HYPOCRISY

[maiden path]

in darktide, I didn't know the difference between a chainsword and evis in the 2d shop.

[royal vortex]

they show you the name

[left iron]

Thats a you issue

[spare dome]

absolutely illogical i cannot believe we're somehow meant to communicate with such arbitrary concepts

[grizzled aspen]

You should start by using your eyeballs and reading the words on your screen.

[maiden path]

there was no function to visually tell the difference depiste namesake

[coarse birch]

they also uh

[royal vortex]

it's tigrus mk whatever eviscerator vs cadia mk whatever chainsword

[coarse birch]

look totally different

[maiden path]

no let me say everything

let me finish

!!!

[grizzled aspen]

No.

[maiden path]

yes

[grizzled aspen]

Suffer.

Sit in your wrongness and be wrong.

[royal vortex]

marinate on your failings

please

[maiden path]

you do not wish for my argument to make sense, you wish to pick and pull an unfinished one to continue the growth of your ego

[grizzled aspen]

He will learn nothing.

[spare dome]

i think u mean mayonaise on ur feelings

[tropic pelican]

You cant differentiate the words evis and chainsword but you want one to be chainsword and long chainsword?

[royal vortex]

do not come out of the birthing pod until you have gestated the truth

[north sedge]

it never made sense, you just dont wanna be wrong

[maiden path]

yes because they are similar

[royal vortex]

we can't physically interrupt you you fuckin mouthbreather

[grizzled aspen]

None of your points have made a lick of sense or have relation to each other, I don't know what you want to even argue at this point.

[royal vortex]

just type the whole message

[maiden path]

they make sense when you don't interrupt me

[fleet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/chuck-e-cheese-dancing-dance-dance-off-breakdown-dance-gif-15772343

[spare dome]

ill come back in a half hour to laugh at it again

[grizzled aspen]

[royal vortex]

inhale through the nostrils and touch the keyboard with a clearer mind

[maiden path]

do not post the chuck e cheese

[grizzled aspen]

Giggled like an idiot.

[maiden path]

ok hold on

base 1

!!!

step 1 base 1 let me be clear obama

[royal vortex]

the reason beb beb could not differentiate is because he is up to his eyes in half eaten crayons and playdough

[grizzled aspen]

Type out your whole incoherent thought before you try and make any more "points."

[fleet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/wtf-omg-noshedidnt-awkward-gif-4797896

[royal vortex]

the 2d shop shows names

[grizzled aspen]

I'm actually crying from laughter at this point.

[tropic pelican]

Yes you cant differentiate the words eviscerator and chainsword
or
Yes you want them to be chainsword and long chainsword

If the latter, why do you want the former

[maiden path]

in the shop evis and chainsword look very similar as its a 2d plane and I didn't know which did which. As a fix for that the idea arose of them being named similarly

[north sedge]

hey guys, what's the medium chainsword do?

[tropic pelican]

Would they not be more similar and therefore easier to confuse

[north sedge]

if only there were some easy way to tell the difference, like a name, perhaps

[royal vortex]

WHAT DO YOU MEAN

DIDN'T KNOW WHICH IS WHICH

OH

MY

GOD

[lusty turtle]

these are the same image

[maiden path]

SAME LENGTH

[royal vortex]

THE NAME

[maiden path]

DIFFERENT POMMEL

[royal vortex]

ARE YOU ILLITERATE

ARE YOU USING A FUCKIN SCREEN READER?????

[coarse birch]

dude the model and name are literally different

[south folio]

yeah but both have sawtooths

[maiden path]

they are SIMILAR LENGTHS

[royal vortex]

seriously

[lusty turtle]

he's in zealot chat

[hushed knoll]

[royal vortex]

true

[hushed knoll]

[royal vortex]

hello stan

[hushed knoll]

Omg why is Ice here

He needs to be in bedge

[maiden path]

they are visually somewhat similar and in that I find confusion, and from that confusion birthed the argument of the namesake of the two not being similar at all being odd.

[left iron]

Okay, but hear me out, they both have mk in them so they're the same thing!

[hushed knoll]

Ice omg

[tropic pelican]

Wouldnt you rather the evis image gets bigger than change the name, since you're not reading the name anyway

[hushed knoll]

You need to bedge

[royal vortex]

i cannot believe when i show this guy a side by side comparison where the name takes up MORE of the image and STANDS OUT compared to the background

[grizzled aspen]

At this point we have come to the conclusion that beb simply can't read.

[royal vortex]

he still can't get it

[maiden path]

it is not THAT I CANT READ IT'S JUST THAT IT'D ODD THEY ARE NAMED DIFFERENT

[spare dome]

man they really are similar maybe they should give them two different names

[royal vortex]

it's not "just odd they are named different", that's not why this conversation started

you invented the stupid name argument to cover your ass for what was like a fairly minor oops

[maiden path]

a chainsword and evis are both chainswords at base, a longsword and shortsword, are both swords at base

[lusty turtle]

wait

i just picked up bread

and put it down

where did it go

[south folio]

the heavy eviscerator is obviously the smaller variant

[south folio]

hi stupid

[royal vortex]

i consumed it

[left iron]

I took it

[coarse birch]

i toasted it

[spare dome]

many suspects

[lusty turtle]

YOU

[grizzled aspen]

"Gee, I have a hard time telling apart chainswords and eviscerators, better rename eviscerators to 'longchainswords' so I can further convolute my already piss-poor reading skills."

[royal vortex]

🙂

[maiden path]

one is named a chainsword and the other evis despite being similar and in that I find confusion

in the 3d game it's clear the differences

[grizzled aspen]

Because. They are different weapons.

[maiden path]

in the 2d shop they are similar at a glance

[spare dome]

i think youre just always confused from drinking cough syrup

[grizzled aspen]

So they have different names.

[south folio]

i wonder what you might infer from their 2d images

[maiden path]

yes they are different weapons yet the base of a chain-based-sword remains

[south folio]

perhaps the more slender proportions of the evis hints that it is a longer weapon than the chainsword

[grizzled aspen]

Please, I beg you, pull your head out of your ass, or at the very least install a skylight so you can actually read the words I'm typing out to you.

[coarse birch]

weapons can have similar properties and be different weapons

that is

90% of weapons

[spare dome]

yes ... sexier ... more sensual ... simply oozing from the weapon

[maiden path]

slender proportions that dont look different unless you directly stare at them

[coarse birch]

except uh

[left iron]

[coarse birch]

they look different

[lusty turtle]

ya'll having the wrong naming argument

[tropic pelican]

Differences that you dont see unkess you look

[spare dome]

"I can't spot the fifteen differences."

[coarse birch]

and have some sort of name

[maiden path]

i argue for the sake of similar names so I can take a quick glance without looking at the icons for the differences

[coarse birch]

next to them

[lusty turtle]

the real shit is why isn't the double barrel shotgun called a twin linked

[grizzled aspen]

Or perhaps the wonderful text that is literally half a cm away from the image of the weapon might shed a single beam of light onto what the difference is.

[south folio]

you can also directly see that the evis is longer than the chainsword

[coarse birch]

it should just be called the super shotty

[maiden path]

not without looking for a scond

[north sedge]

earlier he tried asking about eviscerator marks but called everything chainswords, confusing it all

[spare dome]

because were already gonna get a twin linked lawbringer (cope)

[coarse birch]

did you literally just 50/50 it between the 2 with your eyes closed

[south folio]

👁️ 👁️

[tropic pelican]

You think a quick glance at two things being named chainsword will help you not be confused

[maiden path]

on a base level they are similar weapons as they are both chain based weaponry

and naming them different is weird GIVEN real world application

[lusty turtle]

dude

[grizzled aspen]

They are two different weapon types.

[fleet zealot]

mind you

[north sedge]

they do different things

[lusty turtle]

i'm suggesting this right now

[fleet zealot]

this is games workshop

[tropic pelican]

You're already not able to tell the difference between assault chainsword and heavy eviscerator

[spare dome]

you better

[fleet zealot]

Ferrus Mannus?

[coarse birch]

they arent the same weapon

this is insane

[ripe quest]

twin linked shotgun would be like having two shotguns duct taped to eachother and not a double barrel skele

[fleet zealot]

Magnus the Red?

[maiden path]

nooo put yourself in my shoes

[spare dome]

and then give it to psyker

[royal vortex]

does beb beb have the same issue with tactical and combat axes

[maiden path]

im not calling them the same weapon I am saying they are similar weapons

[tropic pelican]

What makes you think you'll be able to tell at a glance between assault chainsword and long chainsword

[lusty turtle]

nuh uh

[fleet zealot]

GW makes shit names for things they are a game company not a weapon manufactor

[maiden path]

those are both marked as AXES

[north sedge]

im wondering about object permaneance atm

[spare dome]

no but he does have the same issues with objects and permanence

[ripe quest]

https://tenor.com/view/explode-terminator-fire-explosion-skeleton-gif-16779623

[maiden path]

one is tactical the other is a normal axe

[fleet zealot]

one is tactical one is combat actually

[coarse birch]

they arent even that similar, they literally just have a chainsaw function

[grizzled aspen]

No, your shoes are misshapen and definitely smell bad, so I don't think I will. You should probably get some new shoes.

[fleet zealot]

a normal axe is for wood

[lusty turtle]

what is a double barrel shotgun other than 2 single barrel shotguns taped together

[maiden path]

yes that is what im getting at

[fleet zealot]

then get to it quicker

yapping pro

[maiden path]

i see chainswords through the lens of that AT THE TIME

[tropic pelican]

The second dbl barrel should be pointed at the user

[fleet zealot]

yappathon

can't stop addicted to the yap yap

[grizzled aspen]

Yap master.

[maiden path]

it is not a yappathon I AM DEFENDING MY POINT WITH THE CONCEPTS I HAVE ON HAND AT THE TIME

[grizzled aspen]

There is no defense.

[maiden path]

YES THERE IS

[grizzled aspen]

Just accept that you're dumb and we can move on.

[ripe quest]

A double barrel is a bullpup combat shotgun.

[coarse birch]

your point is defending a mistake you made

[maiden path]

YOU DON'T SEE IT FROM MY SHOES

[coarse birch]

to not be wrong

at this point

[grizzled aspen]

Nobody does, or will.

[fading vale]

they finally nerfed crit CDR fuck yeah

[fleet zealot]

i wear crocs

[royal vortex]

this is the worst thing ive read in a long time

[coarse birch]

laz turn away

[spare dome]

your shoes? you mean your feet?

[royal vortex]

and chastise ranged rending

[ripe quest]

Welcome back Laz

[royal vortex]

(it doesn't work now)

[grizzled aspen]

So, yknow, maybe stop trying to defend a point that never existed to begin with.

On another note.

[south folio]

i hope you use double barrels like a bullpup (a position where the shells are "behind" the trigger relative to you)

[grizzled aspen]

Give zealouts recon lasguns.

[fading vale]

🙏

[maiden path]

the fact of the matter is, is that I made a mistake in the name department and thought an evis and chainsword were the same WEAPON, visually they are similar, yet namesake is vastly different

that is what im arguing

[royal vortex]

https://streamable.com/cijj17

[maiden path]

i am defending my mistake for the fact I do not feel it is just to attack me for such an easy to make mistake FOR A PERSON NOT GREATLY VERSED IN 40K

[south folio]

really embarassing that yoshi would randomly fall off like that

[coarse birch]

josho is returning to his old ways

[ripe quest]

It's funny because people have been yelling about the nerf restricting loadouts as if +100% melee rending isn't an atomic bomb for any melee weapon into Carapace.

[royal vortex]

https://streamable.com/qiwhcd

[maiden path]

i cannot off the top of my head make the difference based on namesake so I use visual inference

[grizzled aspen]

You should practice using your eyes and reading more before you spread information on your mistakes, then.

[royal vortex]

it's also a direct buff to weapons that have higher flak than unarmored adms

[coarse birch]

but its only one hit????????

[south folio]

i am also not versed in 40k at all and immediately figured out that the evis was a 2h version of chainsword

[grizzled aspen]

Maybe look at something for longer than 1 second.

[royal vortex]

like laspistol damage would go down if u chastised into flak

[maiden path]

they are inshop VERY similar weapons on a 2d plane

[ornate bone]

where is chastise the wicked btw ?

am i blind ?

[maiden path]

ingame it is different

[coarse birch]

its the old name for FOTF

[grizzled aspen]

Then. Read. The. Words.

[maiden path]

that is where the confusion arose

[spare dome]

thats fury of the faithful

[royal vortex]

its called fury of the faithful in the tree

[ornate bone]

oh

[coarse birch]

its fury of the faithful now

[maiden path]

"i cannot off the top of my head make the difference based on namesake so I use visual inference"

[royal vortex]

we have been around for too long and remember it by the pre patch 13 name chastise since thats what it used to always be called

[south folio]

chastise the wicked is the unupgraded version now but we sometimes call it chastise because that's what it used to be before patch 13

[royal vortex]

(it still technically is as the default ult)

i miss those days

[ripe quest]

I don't know what's funnier, the fact that you could justify a DB being a bullpup combat shotgun or that the most practical DB is actually a bullpup.

[royal vortex]

(i don't)

[maiden path]

and with visual inference they are similar at a quick glance

[tropic pelican]

why would you argue to change the name when you cant differentiate the names anyway

[grizzled aspen]

^

[south folio]

insane person

[maiden path]

to make it easier???

[ripe quest]

My skin is falling off rn

[coarse birch]

beb you literally

[maiden path]

i can differentiate them if I were to tab out of the darktide tab and look it up on google

[coarse birch]

didnt read the name

[maiden path]

but I do not wish to do that

[grizzled aspen]

I don't know, "assault chainsword" and "heavy eviscerator" are pretty fucking different to me.

[spare dome]

"maybe if stop signs were triangular id pay attention to them"

[south folio]

'd' and 'p' are the same letter

[maiden path]

"i cannot off the top of my head make the difference based on namesake so I use visual inference"

[coarse birch]

YOU CAN DIFFERENTIATE THEM BY FUCKING LOOK AT THEM FOR 1 SECOND

[grizzled aspen]

Not even considering model numbers or manufactorum tags.

[signal nymph]

So what kinda guns are meta for this dude? Tried finding a steam community guide but it says [OUTDATED]

[ripe quest]

I don't see the justification behind such words arco.

[fleet zealot]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLY-I1pIhG8

[royal vortex]

you'd tab out and fucking google it before just looking at the IN-SHOP NAME????

BEB

THAT SCREENSHOT MAKES YOU LOOK BAD

[maiden path]

they are TOO similar in 2d shop

[royal vortex]

STOP USING IT

[south folio]

i'm not going to post the images but you know what i'm thinking of right now

[fleet zealot]

revolver

[maiden path]

NO IT DOESNT

[royal vortex]

EVERY TIME YOU POST IT YOU RECONFIRM THAT YOU CANNOT READ

[fading vale]

is revolver still busted as fuck

[signal nymph]

I'm already using revolver for the stinky veteran

[grizzled aspen]

Yes.

[merry flume]

holy autism

[royal vortex]

yeah

[maiden path]

it's like a 3rd of an inch larger in the 2d shop

[spare dome]

sadly yes

[fading vale]

[ripe quest]

Nothing has changed about it really.

[grizzled aspen]

Read. The. Fucking. Words.

[royal vortex]

and they released a boltpistol which is still stats wise mostly outclassed

(the boltpistol is still cool though)

[fleet zealot]

agri brauto, CIAG

[coarse birch]

bolt pistol is neat and it does get the job done

[fleet zealot]

flamer with throwing knives

[maiden path]

"i cannot off the top of my head make the difference based on namesake so I use visual inference"

[coarse birch]

itll be compared to revo and it is worse than revo but revo is dumb

[fleet zealot]

kanty shotgun

las pistol

[maiden path]

i don't want to have to stop for 5 seconds to read out the name and think of the differences between the two

[royal vortex]

i feel like it gets more sane if you compare it to agri

[grizzled aspen]

That is not a point and it does not help you at all. If two things are named very differently then there is obviously a difference.

[ripe quest]

Arco, that's a business matter and this is a casual matter. I'm under an NDA to not talk about the mpreg fnaf speedrun.

[royal vortex]

why does it take you five seconds to read "eviscerator"

???

[maiden path]

but in the difference they are also SIMILAR weapons

[royal vortex]

how is that SLOWER than googling it????

[south folio]

you are your greatest enemy

[coarse birch]

yeah its much more comparable to agri

[fleet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/manul-erm-what-the-flip-pallas-cat-gif-717779379862280562

[maiden path]

one is short

one is long

[tropic pelican]

I cannot tell the difference between these completely different words therefore we should make the words more similar

[grizzled aspen]

If you don't want to spend the brain power to think for five fucking seconds then I don't even understand how you are still alive on this planet anymore.

[coarse birch]

dude you just look at it

you dont need to google it

[merry flume]

john semantics

[ripe quest]

The prices to pay for comedy.

[maiden path]

they are similar enough at a quick glance to not notice the fucking 3rd of an inch difference between the lengths

[ornate bone]

damn zelly chat is wild vet chat never gets this heated

[coarse birch]

i fucking pray you never need to buy ogryn guns

[grizzled aspen]

This is becoming less entertaining now that Josho isn't flaming him every 5 seconds.

[fading vale]

I see the DT talk is still as intelligent as it was 4 months ago

[coarse birch]

you picked a bad time tbf

[royal vortex]

beb beb can thank literal divine intervention for that

[ripe quest]

Wait till you see the average Thammer opinion.

[signal nymph]

What is an augri brauto and CIAG, I have this

[maiden path]

no let me do a quick run down of the mistake that happened that led to this agument

[grizzled aspen]

It's literally beb struggling not to become a servitor candidate, that's all.

[coarse birch]

honestly the fact you werent torn to shreds for saying yay CDR and ranged nerf is a miracle

[grizzled aspen]

PLEASE don't reiterate, you are just stupid, bro.

[royal vortex]

@fading vale one dude said because the brauto crit strings got nerfed it's worthless now

think about that...

[coarse birch]

(it was 2)

[tropic pelican]

Agripina braced autogun and columnus infantry autogun

[fleet zealot]

objects in shop not in scale

[fading vale]

has my lack of presence let the hammer shitters overtake opinion

[coarse birch]

yeah

its not anti armor

[ornate bone]

i thin ima keep it tuned to zelly chat instead of vet chat

[maiden path]

you don't wish to hear my argument because you don't want it to make sense

[coarse birch]

its anti HP

[royal vortex]

there was a dude saying thammer isn't "anti armor" and it is instead "anti flesh"

[maiden path]

yes!!!!

[night path]

nobody wants to hear your argument rofl

[grizzled aspen]

Literally nobody has said you've been making any sense at all.

You have zero people on your side on this one.

[merry flume]

im on beb bebs side

[maiden path]

am I not allowed to defend my point after I am being made fun of for the point?

[hushed knoll]

I know how you feel about flesh

[ripe quest]

Based on what I've seen it's currently on average seen as a C- tier weapon yeah. The most recent major discussion led to the hilarious branding of Thammer as an "anti-HP weapon" as apparently it isn't able to handle armor.

[fading vale]

oh no my like 12 damage

[grizzled aspen]

Devil's advocate and therefore you are not real.

[south folio]

bunny hamburgers have no rights

[royal vortex]

oh bulwarks got reworked to not have a forcefield and instead get higher baseline stagger res that gets lowered when they swing + a hp buff

[hushed knoll]

LAZ OMG OMG HIIIII

[night path]

the point is bad. everyone has told you it's bad. yet you continue to valiantly defend hamburger hill

[maiden path]

put yourself in my shoes on what happened

[royal vortex]

they are notably less cancer to fight

[fading vale]

effectively unchanged since I was here last?

[maiden path]

YOU believe it to be bad I do not, so I defend it

[fleet zealot]

can we get a "Don't you lecture me with your 30 aquila haircut" for darktide please and thank you

[night path]

k, i had a bad take and everyone told me so I learn from that. wild stuff

[signal nymph]

and what melees are meta on this dud?

[tropic pelican]

You getting what you want would confuse you more beb

[grizzled aspen]

Then turn on your brain and accept that it's bad.

[spare dome]

ironhelm ult no longer self stuns you in any capacity

[hushed knoll]

What does this mean

[maiden path]

it's NOT

to ME

!

[grizzled aspen]

This is literally one of the few times in life where you need to shut up and take your L.

[storm elm]

Eye twitch

[fading vale]

hmmmmm

[maiden path]

'noo stop defending your argument noooo'

'u have to let me win noo'

[grizzled aspen]

YOU DONT EVEN HAVE AN ARUGMENT

[maiden path]

YES I DO

[south folio]

i had to take 2 seconds to distinguish that hamburger from a typical hamburger

very effortufl

[merry flume]

final boss of reddit

[grizzled aspen]

IM BEGGING YOU TO SHUT THE FUCK UP SO OTHER PEOPLE CAN HAVE BRAIN CELLS

[royal vortex]

pretty much any of them are usable. combat axe/crusher/chainsword are all solid beginner options

[maiden path]

in the 2d shop they are similar weapons at a glance and in namesake it'd make sense for them to be somewhat similar

[grizzled aspen]

[south folio]

kill asraval

[maiden path]

ad homenium

[nimble fiber]

typical goose L

[merry flume]

yeah

[coarse birch]

hsword is also dumb just take bolter or something with it

[signal nymph]

Any of them specifically to take care of hordes? I'll be using gun/throwing knifes for the specials

[merry flume]

sorry you used anti reddit argument etiquette so it's now invalid

[lusty turtle]

knife zealot barreled me out of bounds 💀

[hushed knoll]

Wadiya talkin abeet

[grizzled aspen]

Yknow what.

[lusty turtle]

its so over for me

[grizzled aspen]

At this point, I'm just going to fish react beb from now on.

[hushed knoll]

[signal nymph]

it's joever?

[dreamy drift]

I wanted to go to bed... but this train wreck is too funny.
grabs popcorn

[coarse birch]

chainsword and hsword are very good into horde

crusher isnt bad either

[royal vortex]

all of those options are good into hordes. caxe is one of the most versatile melee weapons in the game with brutal momentum, crusher is versatile and very safe due to stagger, chainsword has some of the best cleave damage in the game

like comparable with flamer in certain conditions

[coarse birch]

once skullcrusher gets going

[merry flume]

john "reddit" fallacy

[maiden path]

in the 2d shop they are similar weapons at a glance and in namesake it'd make sense for them to be somewhat similar, and in that point I find issue. The keypoint being here at a GLANCE. I am not doing second staredowns to make sure the difference between the two AND because of that I find it disingenuous to attack me for it

that is what im saying

[lusty turtle]

its so joever

[royal vortex]

how little time are you processing this information to be unable to read a name

[maiden path]

what

are you saying

edit that to make sense now

[south folio]

at a glance you could also infer from the visual clue of the evis being more slender and thus the fact that its 2d image is zoomed-out relative to the chainsword's image

[signal nymph]

Yeah combat axe will fall off for me due to the incredibly slow attack speed (I'm level 3) and I don't know what Crusher is yet, will definitely keep it in mind tho, thx

[maiden path]

at a glance you can't see those differences though

[south folio]

you could, also at a glance, see that the evis's image is longer than the chainsword's

[maiden path]

to me atleast

[coarse birch]

and,by some miracle, look at the name

[maiden path]

it isnt large ENOUGH to be noticeable though

[south folio]

clearly you should recognize your own weaknesses and just say that you have bad eyesight

[lusty turtle]

crusher is the best weapon ever invented (no bias)

[coarse birch]

its really noticable

[night path]

you can. sounds like the solution is to look for longer. rocket surgery.

[coarse birch]

the handle is different too

[royal vortex]

imagine how much time you would've saved by taking the half second to read the names and note the differences instead of spending like a fuckin hour defending not doing that

[south folio]

i have dyslexia and difficulty concentrating my vision and i could recognize it at a glance

[signal nymph]

🫡

[maiden path]

the handle IS different but that being the main point of contention for an item where the large difference is it's size is not proper ground to argue

[night path]

"I refuse to change my behavior so everyone else should change things to accomodate my lack of attention span."

[fading vale]

you're the best weapon ever invented for this chat

[merry flume]

that one guy really did tell the truth. if you want real answers on reddit just give a wrong answer

[lusty turtle]

[coarse birch]

i mean the blade looks different too ngl

[signal nymph]

Guys, guys, you're both just awful

runs and hides

[maiden path]

i AM changing my behavior and I am ATTEMPTING to let people see it in the way I DID

[dreamy drift]

It's fine. We all human, we all make mistakes.

[maiden path]

yes but at a GLANCE they are very similar

[lusty turtle]

thanks laz ily2

[royal vortex]

https://streamable.com/1fqauz

[south folio]

love is dead in the grimdark 40k future

[south folio]

no.

[royal vortex]

watch arcotash kill himself by sliding off a ledge

[south folio]

no.

[grizzled aspen]

🐟 🐟

[coarse birch]

then maybe take a little more time to look at it when you arent familiar with the models?

[fading vale]

typical arco L

[maiden path]

It's not a habit to do that

[royal vortex]

i didnt know what arco was doing

i thought he fell down the pit beside us

[south folio]

i want to point out josho's chimpanzee laugh

[hushed knoll]

We should all love arco

[maiden path]

at a quick glance the namesake being similar would be better

[coarse birch]

arco was parkouring off the map

[royal vortex]

everyone is familiar with this

u cant laugh shame me

[hushed knoll]

Yappie dog laugh*

[coarse birch]

lax were you hear for the josho shriek

[south folio]

my pov but i messed up my mic recording settings https://streamable.com/jlu77w

[royal vortex]

he was not

[coarse birch]

either of them

[hushed knoll]

Lax

[coarse birch]

oops

[hushed knoll]

Typical Yoshi L

[coarse birch]

oh man do i even have those anymore

conviently

[nimble fiber]

u misspelled arco

[hushed knoll]

Arco is hard to mispell

[south folio]

...

[median steeple]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/625028619105992741/1262218151601635359/samlakecam.mp4?ex=6695cbc2&is=66947a42&hm=fed3e7f5d3268c90a632227a083512eeac3bedc52bcfcc777351b8c9e6c01ca4&

[signal nymph]

Anyone got me a cool skill tree if I want to run Throwing Knives/Shroud Field? (not sure about purple yet)

[south folio]

if it's that hard to misspell, then you are NOT helping yourself

[grizzled aspen]

You won't want to be running that until you get higher level.

[signal nymph]

huh

[grizzled aspen]

You kinda have to do the worm to hit the talents you want.

[maiden path]

my final words on this argument

At a quick glance (to me) they were similar weapons and in idea they are. They are both chain based weaponry and from that observation rose confusion. A way to supplement that confusion would be similar names but alas they are not named similarly as I wish they were.

[grizzled aspen]

Like, if you look on the left, you'll see duellist, and you want that.

[nimble fiber]

gotta agree with arco on this one

[grizzled aspen]

But you also want the nodes above knives.

[signal nymph]

Where do I see duelist, I'm blind

[grizzled aspen]

So you go down knives and then have to spend like 3 or 4 points to get duellist.

[signal nymph]

but mommm I want to throw knifes and go invisibleeee

[grizzled aspen]

Just rock a left hand side build until you're higher level.

[coarse birch]

https://streamable.com/dy8c5g
@fading vale important pieces of history

[signal nymph]

oh this

[hushed knoll]

I'm the only one that will defend you here

[grizzled aspen]

Yeah you really want that if you're using a knife setup.

[signal nymph]

I guess it sucks to suck

got a knife build then

[frozen zephyr]

London build zealot is so good, UK is best London is great

[fading vale]

sounds like typical josho

[signal nymph]

I don't want to copy it 1:1 I just want to look at it, steal it, maybe change something

inspiration needed

[south folio]

fly like an eagle, strike like a hawk

[coarse birch]

damn these are older than i thought

[royal vortex]

https://streamable.com/4rcm47 indeed

[signal nymph]

I assume this is 50% of an amount I don't know?

[south folio]

this is the build i run with knife but with the dash ult instead of shroudfield

[signal nymph]

pretty worm

[south folio]

you regen 5% toughness per melee kill by default, and it's 1.5x more of that, so blood redemption gives +2.5% more toughness resulting in 7.5% total

[signal nymph]

Ohh didn't know, thanks

[royal vortex]

u stole my knife build

[signal nymph]

toughness is for losers anyways, who even gets hit these days

just dodge, ugh

[south folio]

you stole yoshi's life

[coarse birch]

you are not unique

[royal vortex]

he threw the assail shard

wtf

[coarse birch]

josho realizing the error of his ways

[south folio]

how much damage does the pickaxe bash do

to a burster

[royal vortex]

it's like 230 baseline

[south folio]

https://streamable.com/nnxjol

[royal vortex]

he didnt die from that one

[coarse birch]

oh he didnt die

so its ok

anything to make me feel better about my heinous crimes towards innocent people

[royal vortex]

yoshi when asked why he made me special a poxburster into him

[lusty turtle]

🙏 glad i was there to witness

[coarse birch]

even arco is defending me

thats how you know you fucked up

and are in the wrong

[south folio]

yoshi's life is worthless so ultimately all arguments regarding his life are moot

[coarse birch]

WOW

you guys are gonna make the intrusive thoughts win

[left iron]

[maiden path]

did u guys see the controversty for the sweet baby gaming group

[royal vortex]

not this shit too

[coarse birch]

i dont even know what that is

[maiden path]

das why im asking

[ripe quest]

me when I try to kill arco and fail

[ornate bone]

https://tenor.com/view/that's-bait-fishing-thats-bait-time-to-go-fishing-dark-souls-gif-12687109592345272249

[ornate bone]

helmet goes hard

[fleet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/bait-used-to-be-believable-baited-jebaited-bait-i-got-jebaited-gif-1296286127798996733

[ripe quest]

The urge to unblock beb beb so I can view the last 2 hours of mouthbreathing.

[left iron]

You're better off not doing that

[grizzled aspen]

jump into melee to save ogryn
ogryn immediately ditches me and leaves me for dead when I inevitably go down fighting the blender (12 dreg ragers)

Also worth noting the ogryn in question was running max wounds.

[crisp furnace]

Why would you risk it

[merry flume]

bep exiled from the lunchroom table for making redditors angry

[grizzled aspen]

I dropped 2 sunstorm grenades for the save because he was the last remaining teammate and I don't do well clutching on my martyr build.

[crisp furnace]

I am never throwing myself into melee to save someone who I can’t guarantee I can save

[grizzled aspen]

Oh I definitely guaranteed the save, no worries on that.

He just... ditched me as soon as he got up.

Like an ogryn can literally push a dreg rager out of their combo.

I don't know why he didn't help me kill them.

[coarse birch]

if he had max wounds then there is a good chance they do not have the best situational awareness

[grizzled aspen]

Or they're just outright not meant to be on damnation.

[crisp furnace]

+1 wounds and yeah

No thank you

No martygryn

[coarse birch]

ive seen some decent people with 3 wounds but anything past that not on martyrdom and you are probably gonna be babysitting

[royal vortex]

4 wounds 90 toughness level 300+ pub psyker

[crisp furnace]

Running smite

[coarse birch]

if i see 90 toughness its just over

[royal vortex]

u know it dude

[coarse birch]

cause its always

a smite psyker

[royal vortex]

half the time they complain about how psyker can't keep up with other classes

(movespeed wise)

[crisp furnace]

Cutest runs 3 +3 stamina curios

On psyker

But she’s ultra cracked

[coarse birch]

if people can hold there own idc what they run

but if you are going to spend the match on the floor and your running 90 toughness

[south folio]

psyker is glass (90 toughness btw)

[royal vortex]

its a 50/50 for who complains the most about me being too fast between chorus zealots and smitekers

[crisp furnace]

Me running the most garbage weapons because it’s funni

[royal vortex]

i find anyone running the iconic "bad pub" loadouts also have a way higher chance of leaving matches

[fleet zealot]

ok i've complained about a team moving too fast once, it was 3 stealthers, 2 zealots one vet

and they jsut left me to deal with all the elites and hordes

and got pissy when i wasn't in the airlock with them

[coarse birch]

a lot of the medicore weapons are decent now at least

i enjoy them

[crisp furnace]

I used to main the paul

[coarse birch]

ive even run like thrust HT achlys on psyker although that one was less fun

[royal vortex]

yoshi died horribly and stopped running the absolute dumpster weapons he could concoct

[south folio]

he can not juggle that along with dealing with an "ally"

[crisp furnace]

Me running the taxe without bromentum

[royal vortex]

i take my tithe for all the solo clutches in duos

[coarse birch]

one day

i would have been fine on that last one

[royal vortex]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4R-aoUcTN8

[coarse birch]

if a bon didnt fucking spawn

threw me way off course

[royal vortex]

i miss threatening shooters

[coarse birch]

dont we all

well

apparently

not

[spare dome]

no i get why it was reverted

but yea i miss it

[royal vortex]

this was before the pickaxe reach buff

the struggle

[coarse birch]

i am going to lose my mind when finally stop dissapointing mr josho

i swear i can solo clutch when you arent watching

[royal vortex]

such is life

[open pollen]

I did QP into a match where my team could not handle them and one of them said "Shooters pretty oppressive, huh" and I laughed. It was a sad laugh. More of a cry, really.

[coarse birch]

😔

[lusty turtle]

it'd be cool if they were working on something for shooters

[coarse birch]

i wish it was something i could actually practice

[crisp furnace]

The buff was fine

Them hitting through slide dodges was not

[coarse birch]

i am at the point where i would practice that shit for 12 hours a day im so sick of fucking it up

[south folio]

why are you looking at josho for validation

https://streamable.com/khe47x

[lusty turtle]

just had the most unhinged match on smelter where nothing worked

[crisp furnace]

Same with the rager buff and the 180 attack radius

[coarse birch]

josho is the one who is in the mission with me and i am the reason it fails

[crisp furnace]

Wonder if I have run into you in pubs yet

[lusty turtle]

the first corruptor didn't spawn a horde, the lighting was all fucked up, bursters weren't making any noise

[fleet zealot]

was it vent purge or lights out? yea the map is broken

[zinc talon]

silent bursters all day today for me too

[fleet zealot]

didn't have the spawning or burster issue tho

[zinc talon]

and THIS^

[fleet zealot]

OH all the corruptors spawned at once

all 3 of them

so just 9 things on our HUD

[zinc talon]

[fleet zealot]

you became part of the spawn

[lusty turtle]

you might have, usually playing either a vet called jane darktide or a zealot called derlin

[fleet zealot]

unfortunate

[zinc talon]

[spare talon]

do i change my name

my title rather

[zinc talon]

you do not

[open pollen]

Dis pig's moving up in dah world

[zinc talon]

https://tenor.com/view/thatll-do-pig-james-cromwell-farmer-hoggett-christine-cavanaugh-babe-gif-16430795

[fleet zealot]

i love the image of tanking a crusher overhead while at 1 hp cause of Until Death/Holy revenant

the absolute brain damage

[zinc talon]

we can go even deeper

make it so damage taken restores your health

for tactical facetanking

[fleet zealot]

restoring faith talent already exists

[zinc talon]

instead of damage done it's damage taken

for that same timer

so you have to run in and maximize the hits you~~ r ~~ take by the heaviest enemies

true facetanking

[fleet zealot]

zealot so brainless, doesn't remember to die

[zinc talon]

they're yelling too loud to hear reality

[visual stream]

https://tenor.com/view/jim-carrey-dumb-and-dumber-la-la-la-i-cant-hear-you-gif-12096113

average zealot

[fleet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/elmo-stare-sesame-street-rocco-death-stare-gif-24438342

Devout follower of nurgle watching a random zealot loyalist eat an overhead from an ogryn and realizing they kinda got duped

[grizzled aspen]

Nurgle might make you hard to kill, but the Emperor protects.

[visual stream]

Believing in pimples <<< believing in just don't die lol

[ornate bone]

huh

[delicate shadow]

https://tenor.com/view/not-those-men-kingdom-of-heaven-army-gif-16618294

[fleet zealot]

The one pieceeee the one piece is real

[fleet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-ohthemisery-gif-26032710

[maiden path]

HOLY SHIT

TRANSOFRMER

https://tenor.com/view/crane-grua-transformers-dirty-mind-gif-7307130

wrong gif\

https://tenor.com/view/fortnite-bumblebee-griddy-transformers-dancing-gif-14373763834400342991

[fleet zealot]

Alright zealots, in the crafting rework, all weapons are planned to have 8 blessings minimum, up to 12

[obsidian prairie]

You want to talk about crusher right

[maiden path]

still dont understand wtf is going on with the crafting rework

[fleet zealot]

What blessings do you think crusher will get, existing blessings from other weapons and the minimum 1 unique blessing thing they were talking about

[maiden path]

they're removing all our blessings and giving us mastery points for them

[fleet zealot]

You dont understand a lot of things

[maiden path]

and we can buy blessings directly with those

[maiden path]

ur gonna understand my wrath once i stick my foot up ur ass

[fleet zealot]

Lmao enemy just started playing as i sent that

[royal vortex]

are we sure about the 8 blessings thing

that sounds ungodly

[maiden path]

8 blessings on oen weapon

[frozen glen]

all the filler thammer blessings

[south folio]

precognition crusher

[north sedge]

Every weapon gets the stagger blessings

[polar nexus]

Ferret D Fluffy

[south folio]

smackdown duelling swords

[frozen glen]

uncanny strike taxes

[polar nexus]

this so much

or just give me precog or riposte on taxe ffs

[north sedge]

Thunderstrike dueling sword

[polar nexus]

shred hammer

[south folio]

vicious slice heavy sword

[frozen glen]

thrust helbore

[royal vortex]

all or nothing crusher would go hard

cuz u could still hit certain stagger bps

[fleet zealot]

Yea every weapons blessing pool will be at minimum 8 if not 12, and they planned for more unique blessings for specific weapon families iirc

[south folio]

more tailored blessings :o

blessing that gives you knucklebrasses on knife punch special

[frozen glen]

idk abt the 8 blessing per weapon thing it just seems like theyre gonna add more fillers

[fleet zealot]

True but now you earn blessings as a progress

And tbh besides certain outliers that hopefully will be balanced out, being on t1 and t2 blessings will not make the game unplayable

[polar nexus]

that's the beauty of weapons needing just one blessing to come alive

[visual stream]

Does anyone know if Strawhat ever got back to us on if we should be scrapping weapons for blessings? I remember they officially recognized that question and said they'd get back to us

[fleet zealot]

(And you will keep all your existing weapons as is)

[fleet zealot]

Not yet, that’s next dev blog iirc the Q&A

Should just be scrap for dockets or mats tbh

Oh great heavens

I hope they dont use our discord names

Alright im over ruling stan

[left iron]

How dare you

[fleet zealot]

I think when i sent in my questions

I was antifa (stan typo)

[frozen glen]

was?

[fleet zealot]

Yes i swapped my name to whatever stan would typo my name as

[visual stream]

"we didn't include the username but the question was valid"

[fleet zealot]

Please emperor

Keep the questions anonymous

🙏

Or at least get my actual discord name and not my server nickname

[royal vortex]

they can address me by this name and no other

[fleet zealot]

I dont mind being made a scapegoat for some weirdos online saying im a part of the elite private discord

[frozen glen]

Rebders

[fleet zealot]

I already was included in a youtube video

Also who the fuck calls me Eli

It’s Ell

[royal vortex]

pokemon ass

[fleet zealot]

Just say L

[polar nexus]

the knife guy?

[fleet zealot]

It was a knife guy

[polar nexus]

i am sure he was using lacerate

[fleet zealot]

I said one thing to him and he included me in his video

[fleet zealot]

Yes

[polar nexus]

ahhh fuck i remember the guy

[fleet zealot]

He was doing true solo aurics or damnations or some shit

As “proof” lacerate is better than flesh tearer

[royal vortex]

it was a true solo regular damnation melee only

[frozen glen]

Rebders

[south folio]

no controller support any% as well? shame

invalidated

[royal vortex]

mankar did that in our hab dreyko adventure

[fleet zealot]

Some players are a little high skilled and quickly develop massive egos and parasocial relationship to their build i stg

[south folio]

this is the type of controller support that i'm referring to, for clarification https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6r13L1yvtYA

[fleet zealot]

Wasn’t there a chess person who cheated with one of those

[south folio]

i know there was some controversy but not about whether that story was actually true or not

[frozen glen]

linked to the focus target vet's mousewheel

[ornate bone]

is the flamer any viable ? i rememeber trying it a while ago and it dished out so little i instantly dropped it

[fleet zealot]

Flamer is great for weapons with slow or unsafe clear

[south folio]

is very good if you have any amount of patience

[polar nexus]

flamer forte is the infinite cleave

[fleet zealot]

But it does force you to use throwing knives

But it melts anything below a crusher with ease

No fotf interactions anymore but imo it’s better you can go any ability now

[obsidian prairie]

Flamer and knives is something I want to do

[fleet zealot]

You want 76% burn stat and high cloud radius

[obsidian prairie]

I know

Just rolling for good blessings and decent perks

[ornate bone]

is there any point to use mb1 ? the attack is so tiny

[fleet zealot]

Not talking to you

[fleet zealot]

It gets better with higher cloud radius stat

But not really

[ornate bone]

got 78 on this one

[south folio]

the lmb is for stagger primarily

[fleet zealot]

You can puff to get some stagger but the most efficient damage is to m2 in short bursts

Or hold down vs thicker elite packs

[south folio]

https://streamable.com/jxsijh

[fleet zealot]

Blessings just blaze away

[royal vortex]

this guy falls of ledges multiple times per game

[steady totem]

Crispy af.

[south folio]

die.

[fleet zealot]

Perks you want flak maniac, elites, unyielding unarmored in that priority imo

[ornate bone]

out of context fucking hell your graphics look like roblox

[royal vortex]

thats what you did, yeah

[south folio]

in context it also looks like roblox

[fleet zealot]

From beginning most important flak

[royal vortex]

https://streamable.com/1fqauz

[south folio]

this is my real setup, for reference https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1258924855060070431/image.png?ex=6695ae23&is=66945ca3&hm=a494cec28ad395392901b823cbb57adbbc5935bb2d817eaa9c6ffb21ca07b3d4&

[ornate bone]

seems to do great stagger though

[ornate bone]

holy shit

[south folio]

rude to publish this

(it's a good laptop and i just have fans to keep it from being at a high temperature, but it sure does look jank)

[fleet zealot]

To the best lowtier option unarmored before you get into the really shit perks

[ornate bone]

LMFAO

[steady totem]

Is this real?

[ornate bone]

darktide gameplay

[south folio]

yeah it's a toy story collaboration with wh40k darktide

[left iron]

Exclusively for Arco

[steady totem]

About time.

[frozen glen]

can you stop posting your villainous machinations

[coarse birch]

I must defend arcos set up

It is beautiful

[ornate bone]

actually could be really usefull for my build got tigrus with great clear but if ragers rush me bad in a corner im dead sorta

[fleet zealot]

Most important is throwing knife practice

Cause flamer has no reliable ranged hitscan

So practice sending sharply worded knives at snipers and bombers

[lusty turtle]

you want to have blessings for mastery ye

[fleet zealot]

And sometimes if the map location sucks you just gonna have to slide dodge and weave and advance

But the sense of satisfaction of crossing hell and high water to personally punch a sniper to death is worth it

[south folio]

slowly pelt away at an unreachable sniper with stun grenades

[lusty turtle]

as in scrap weapons for blessings to fill out ur library

[ornate bone]

i think ima just keep it with flame grenade besides if i want to play vet my other class at lvl 115 is right there

[south folio]

whatever exhillious is about to say is wrong

and a lie

[frozen glen]

does each tier count or do you just need the t4

[ripe quest]

Arco is a really cool pers- nevermind ig

[left iron]

Yeah that is definitely wrong

[ripe quest]

I was about to type how cool it'd be to have a functional crafting system

[ornate bone]

soon?

[south folio]

good progression systems OwO

[ripe quest]

I saved Darktide by making sure to only type "Arco is a cool person" because otherwise we would've gotten a dogshit crafting system

[lusty turtle]

[south folio]

what a hero

[lusty turtle]

i got no clue

[ripe quest]

you fool, you have implied that you're a villain

[south folio]

the heroes and villains, and no inbetweens

[ornate bone]

imagine if they uncapped lvls so ppl can see how much ppl have played with one less third party modification (not that its bad but like, you know)
makes a difference knowing out a fresh lvl 30 and a lvl 1202

[south folio]

the villagers are also villains (shares first 6 5 letters)

[frozen glen]

5

[lusty turtle]

i just know

mastery is how u unlock blessings

having blessings retroactively gives mastery

[south folio]

shut up

[frozen glen]

arco has 6 fingers

[south folio]

you have 0 sense of morality

[frozen glen]

am i the villa

(6 letters)

[left iron]

[south folio]

i'll burn the straw hut that you live in

[frozen glen]

ill just move in to the stick house

[visual stream]

Thank ye

[spare talon]

do you know if this can be done after the update drops? or if it has to be now

[visual stream]

I would assume no

To both the knowing and of the after update

[cerulean moth]

https://tenor.com/bZuZ5.gif

[lusty turtle]

now, assume after it drops the only way to unlock blessings is mastery and not scrapping otherwise,,, whats the point in mastery?

[royal vortex]

to add thunderstrike to all melee weapons

[lusty turtle]

boy i sure hope no unhinged blessings are getting added that break the balance

[south folio]

they would never

in my darktide?

[royal vortex]

skele dont do this to me

pls

[spare talon]

https://tenor.com/view/car-garn47-garn-47-garn-car-garn47-gif-17918098241540694989

[south folio]

anyways, vicious slice crusher

[royal vortex]

die

[lusty turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/blade-runner-roy-batty-time-to-die-gif-12222717

(i honestly don't know i just remember some unhinged things being datamined at some point)

[vestal pine]

at worst we'll see "meta" melee for a few weeks on QP

[lusty turtle]

na there can be far worse than assumed meta out there

there can be things like pre fotf nerf laspistol

dum dum, racking fire, maniac/unyeilding laspistol is unhinged still, but it used to be more

[austere grail]

Sometimes I still use chastise before I magdump my gun

😔

[spare talon]

it does give atk speed so its not wasted

[lusty turtle]

ye stacking its AS with judgement is funny

like a 40% AS boost to guns

[royal vortex]

40% ass boost

[lusty turtle]

i have an emote i shan't use

[austere grail]

Great now my bolter is empty 1 second earlier 😔

[south folio]

the void beckons

[lusty turtle]

so true bestie

[south folio]

anyways obscurus l2 or bust

[cerulean moth]

https://tenor.com/bQS1D.gif

What do they know

[lusty turtle]

L4, take it or leave it

[drowsy steppe]

whats with the obscurus heavy stagger

[cerulean moth]

Obsuucurus? I hardly know her!

[lusty turtle]

What about it?

[drowsy steppe]

the heavy attacks seems to be able to stagger ragers and even crushers down

[vestal pine]

wait

stun nade stun counts as electrocuted

[drowsy steppe]

maybe the duel sword 4 isnt the best comparison but it has less stagger on its poke

[lusty turtle]

Ds 4 is supposed to have bad stagger

[vestal pine]

so stun nades + saul might work?

[lusty turtle]

I'll take a look tomorrow, any specific blessings/talents that help cause it?

[spare talon]

what does that have anything to do with what i said

[coarse birch]

Hammerblow 🙂

[lusty turtle]

Got a half baked set of obscurus changes in but was lost in the acca mines

Planning to go back over obscurus now if FS let me

[drowsy steppe]

not sure about the talents. I ran precog and riposte on my obscurus

[lusty turtle]

alright will give it a nose, assuming you mean the new H1 strikedown?

[ripe quest]

I've seen some real fucked up shit in the files, curious to see if that's the uh-oh spaghetti-o's type of thing you're talking about.

[drowsy steppe]

yea

[north sedge]

Should add thunderstrike to obscurus

[drowsy steppe]

and maybe try the h2 poke

[lusty turtle]

Wait

[drowsy steppe]

I see

[lusty turtle]

Hang on a minute

The obscurus doesnt have a h2 poke!

[left iron]

Obscurus doesnt have a poke heavy, thats Deimos

[ripe quest]

clearly the point in mastery would be unlocking blessings then. Unless there's some kind of prestige system.

[drowsy steppe]

oh wtf

[lusty turtle]

Mal out here gaslighting me

[drowsy steppe]

I guess I misnamed Deimos

sry

[lusty turtle]

This is fucked up

[coarse birch]

Yeah deimos h2 does dumpster stuff

The big stab

[cerulean moth]

More interested in what else the itemisation update will "update"

[south folio]

oh it still does that?

[ripe quest]

Deimos H2 should shove people to the left again

[cerulean moth]

ACRO

[lusty turtle]

Ye deimos has big stagger for no reason

[cerulean moth]

WHO LET YOU IN HERE

[south folio]

who's acro

[coarse birch]

Yeah it just knocks them backwards

[cerulean moth]

you

bitch

[coarse birch]

Not to the right

[grizzled aspen]

Deimos h2 tossing crushers on their ass is funny.

[ripe quest]

who are you

[drowsy steppe]

no reason?

[cerulean moth]

):

[drowsy steppe]

wha

[cerulean moth]

fren

[polar nexus]

it was not like that at first

[spare talon]

it has bigger stagger cuz i like the deimos more, so i willed it into reality

[north sedge]

all the more reason to give it thunderstrike

[lusty turtle]

It got given stagger to make it stab different compared to ds4, but the amount of stagger is unhinged and basically lets you trivialize the game

[coarse birch]

Its uh

Something

[lusty turtle]

I am not a fan

[coarse birch]

I love never ever losing a fight in melee

AND 2 shotting the guy

Or one shotting if its anything but an ogryn

[polar nexus]

that man has too much power

[drowsy steppe]

https://tenor.com/view/worried-scared-oh-no-stop-it-fearful-gif-12534009

[south folio]

also highly insane that they buffed the ds2 heavy instead of nerfing the ds4

[polar nexus]

even telopots likes him

[cerulean moth]

which play testers nerfed mmy crit cool down reduction

[grizzled aspen]

Level 16 veteran queueing up for damnation...

[cerulean moth]

ill GET them

[grizzled aspen]

Can't wait to babysit him!

[coarse birch]

I hope they nerf it again

[lusty turtle]

If it makes you feel better mal, if you had tried it before this update it staggered them sideways

Complete nonesense

[drowsy steppe]

I went from ds4 to deimos after not using it for so long and Im baffled as to why the stagger is so huge on it

[drowsy steppe]

lmao

[left iron]

Yah, it was, uh

Interesting

[cerulean moth]

REEEE

REEEE

buff it back i wanted to be op

[coarse birch]

No

[vestal pine]

sry wrong ping lol

:(

[cerulean moth]

aw...

[coarse birch]

There is 182629292618 other op things to choose from

[lusty turtle]

I think they just wanted to equalize it and then numbers pass it a different time

[coarse birch]

Im sure you will manage

[cerulean moth]

yet gun zealot aint one of em

https://tenor.com/dkOcGPxqAXR.gif

[drowsy steppe]

thats insane

[lusty turtle]

Like psyker

[spare talon]

why do you guys care so much
its a pve game, we shouldnt be nerfing anything anyway

[coarse birch]

Truly a shame the melee class isnt dumb with a gun 😔

[coarse birch]

Yes

I am the first to admit my class is dumb

[lusty turtle]

If you dont nerf things the challenge dies and the numbers spiral infinitley and you end up with warframe

[spare talon]

did that sound convincing
am doing it right

[cerulean moth]

listen bruh i just want the gun talents to be near each other

or just move sainted gun slinger above unrelenting

[coarse birch]

Zealots tree could use some work ye

[spare talon]

the challenge is getting that part to drop after 5 hours please its a 20% chance drop its not that hard why is it taking this long

[cerulean moth]

basically just that

[coarse birch]

The chastise thing was just dumb

[cerulean moth]

agreed!

buff sainted gun slinger 10% reload speed per kill fs pls

[lusty turtle]

It'll get a clean up one day proabably just a matter of prio

I'd imagine whoever does talents n blessings stuff is busy with the crafting

[cerulean moth]

make it NOW playtester or ill get angry....

https://tenor.com/bZMXm.gif

[coarse birch]

Give psyker more nodes first

[lusty turtle]

Removing all gun buffs from zealot

[polar nexus]

i have read that they will introduce new blessings

[cerulean moth]

NOOOOOOOOOO

[coarse birch]

I use 2 talent points and im at the bottom of the tree