zealot-class

[fleet zealot]

he doesn't fuck women cause he loves them, he does it because it's a status symbol

[vestal pine]

my question is why did he left them live

[fleet zealot]

i see it

[fleet zealot]

they might have just been the lucky ones

[vestal pine]

might be

i feel good today, you live

fucking vanishes

[fleet zealot]

dio juggled so many plates from japan to america it's ridic

dude had a hand in every cookie jar no wonder he was able to throw henchmen at the crusader's

[dark zealot]

i think the difference is the parents

[fleet zealot]

no matter what path they take he has a contact there XD

[dark zealot]

either the mothers and/or the personalities they developed as kids

giorno was trying to save a man when he akwakens his stand

[vestal pine]

they should have just lended a airplane and let joseph fly it kek

[dark zealot]

his half brothers were bad people or something idk

[fleet zealot]

i could see dio being a "fidel castro" and needing a new woman every time LOL

[vestal pine]

and then stand allstar on egypt

[fleet zealot]

yea the good part of giorno is joestar

the other 3 don't have that

golden wind is a life creating stand similar to crazy diamond

[vestal pine]

i still find the concept of balls in SBR attracting the most
though easier shit to do would be hamon

[fleet zealot]

the other 3 lesser sons, all have control themed stands, and pretty violent ones at that

hamon is spin

and spin is hamon

just, different forms of the same universal source material

[maiden path]

i am spin

[vestal pine]

kinda

[maiden path]

https://tenor.com/view/xqc-spin-gif-21121522

[dark zealot]

also his brothers seemed to awaken their stands due to puccis gravity

[median steeple]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1120299759316520960/1259682687208394792/1694195928646.mp4?ex=668c926c&is=668b40ec&hm=4c96e746b67cc972118e6d43c576766c7055ca935950943ffb48b81a687295e1&

[vestal pine]

hamon and spin might be similar but its different

[median steeple]

26C at 8:30pm is crazy

[vestal pine]

the jobro also mentions hamon for like 1 cut and then never mentioned again

"shit this spin thing is like hamon"

never gets mentioned again

[median steeple]

just how it rolls

[vestal pine]

i guess its similar

its about understanding the nature of things nad using those to pull out the most

hamon uses its own body and spin usually uses steel balls

[dark zealot]

spin is the golden ratio of life

hamon is breathing properly

[fleet zealot]

cause pucci did the green baby thing

it's really fucking

basically pucci combined joestar and brando into like, one family via technicality and ritual

[vestal pine]

gay btw

[fleet zealot]

until the next part

[vestal pine]

[fleet zealot]

and spin is used as literal nothing

like

[dark zealot]

well pucci did but didnt achieve heaven

[vestal pine]

spin never gets mentioned like after pt4 hamon does kek

[fleet zealot]

fuck i love SBR as the best part but Jojolion is so quirky

i love them both in different ways

[vestal pine]

jojolion was quite wack

[fleet zealot]

Wonder of U put me at genuine unease

[dark zealot]

i love that david bowie gets his redemption and killer queen is back

[fleet zealot]

how do we beat it, shoot it with nonexistence

[dark zealot]

spins OP

he made a ball so thin it did but didnt exist

[vestal pine]

forshadowing

[dark zealot]

which is basically just the universe going "this guy needs to take the L lmao"

[vestal pine]

i do find it funny the go beyond shit is

[dark zealot]

at least tusk kind of made sense

[vestal pine]

what scientists are trying to explain the world on

superstring theorey

thats the only part it made sense to me and then nothing made sense after that

[dark zealot]

every jojo part has some weird supernatural force

part 6 is gravity

part 5 the truth

prat 4 death?

part 3 blood

part 2 german engineering

part 1 love

[vestal pine]

i still think pt2 was peak

[dark zealot]

because it was

[vestal pine]

pt7 gets a love for me cause its something akin to pt2/3

i like every installation one way or another

[fleet zealot]

no part 7 is loved cause it is a perfect western as well as a perfect manga

when SBR finally releases in 10 years after all the horse animating

[dark zealot]

people will say that part 4/5/6 felt weak but lets be honest part 3 had low points and "bad" episodes

or subpar episodes

[fleet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/gyro-gyro-zeppeli-dark-deter-dark-determination-jojo-gif-25489034

[vestal pine]

i think it felt weak cause no manly man man

[fleet zealot]

part 1-3 were scuffed asf and especially part 3 went too hard on the villain of the week

[vestal pine]

man man man

[dark zealot]

same way berserk slaps because its japanese medieval europe

[fleet zealot]

part 4 is when it hits the stride and just slams it down and araki is just flexing his flexibility

[vestal pine]

pt2 was peak cause it was all about physical mechanics

and then

stands bullshittry go

[fleet zealot]

pt2 used physical mechanics like how i have theoretical degree in physics lol

most of the tricks were Bullshit at least stands are quantifiable bullshit

[dark zealot]

"so its the same type of stand as star platinum" now they say "ahh yes my blah blah technique from the Heian era"

[vestal pine]

both of them were bullshit yea kek

[fleet zealot]

like i said, part 3 is the weakest stand part automatically

there is some foreshadowing since like, the first episode that star platinum and the world were similar in ability

SP vs the cop's revolver compared to the world vs the shotgun

[dark zealot]

yes im saying that Jujusu kaisen meme is a jojo reference

[fleet zealot]

honestly i need to catch up with part 9

but i do know it's incredibly based 🏳️‍🌈

[dark zealot]

to be fair silver chariot intercepts light

which even if it isnt literal light speed

star platinum is still a fast stand

stopping a bullet makes sense

really every stand should be able to do that

at least the "strength" type

[maiden path]

kizaru wipes

[vestal pine]

wat

[maiden path]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-egghead-kizaru-marines-borsalino-gif-12551018102303268083

gun stand on top

[dark zealot]

well the meme is sukuna has an anti x technique

[fleet zealot]

whole Ls

[dark zealot]

the joke is jotaro's star platinum can do whatever x stand does and thus counter it

[maiden path]

if hol goat decided to fearlessly gun dio down he would have, but he wanted to see how it would play out

thats why hol horse is the goat

[fleet zealot]

i mean, at least hol horse was in the non canon spin off

what was it

purple heartbreak?

the diamond is unbreakable prequel

[maiden path]

hol horse knew jotaro needed 2 be strong thats why he didnt blow dios head off guys trust me

https://tenor.com/view/gun-jojos-bizarre-adventure-manga-series-gif-15636764

[dark zealot]

he gets to like jotaro then its downhill

[maiden path]

fake

hol horse is too goated

if he was in florida he would of killed pucci ez style

[vestal pine]

jotaro copied nikka cause jotaro idk

[maiden path]

but he was too busy saving all the women

trust

[vestal pine]

[fleet zealot]

hol horse was supposed to join the crusader's but that made the team too crowded

[dark zealot]

hol horse did it duh

[dark zealot]

but the french guy stays

[maiden path]

hol horse stopped the universe ending with a single bullet it just wasnt animated trust

he said 'cut that out pucci..'

[fleet zealot]

kinda like how in part 5, fugo was supposed to betray the team and show back up in rome, but araki decided against it

imo making a unique character arc where a character does just, back out, and it isn't for any evil reason or later betrayal

[maiden path]

because he would of fucking obliterated them

bullshit ass piower

😭

[fleet zealot]

wdym

giorno has the cure now

[vestal pine]

tbh i still want hermit purple to be my stand if i get to choose soley because it'd make my binging life eaiser kek

[fleet zealot]

it's saved in golden wind

[maiden path]

cure schmure

he would of asspulled and went 'i beat some guy over the head with another book now I have super aids power'

'die giorno!!'

trust

[dark zealot]

hermit purple gives you 0 delay inputs in video games

[vestal pine]

wins every smash tourneys

tbh im just there for fanart drawing

[dark zealot]

hermit purple does have some unethical uses

[vestal pine]

yeah so fugo needed to get off otherwise the gameplan was give everyone the cure and then just dump fugo on every enemy

[dark zealot]

to be fair its not much help vs green day

or king crimson

[vestal pine]

i dont think it'd help with that airplane incident

or metalika(not that they fought him)

anything fugo cannot hit directly is just bad

[dark zealot]

they kinda did?

[vestal pine]

i guess

aerosmith doing bullshit doesnt count smh

[patent patrol]

I have yet to have my question answered lol

[dark zealot]

that does count

[vestal pine]

smh my head

[dark zealot]

he used the stand to find and kill a stand user

just the wrong one

and remember that he was after the gang

[fleet zealot]

when i first watched golden wind i was fucking stupid

[patent patrol]

so what blessings do y'all suggest on the infantry lasgun thing?

[fleet zealot]

and genuinely didn't catch the split personality thing until it was too late

[dark zealot]

ugh which one

[patent patrol]

XII.

[fleet zealot]

mkia

or swap to vet

[patent patrol]

what?

[fleet zealot]

zealot can't juice xii to hit one shot bps

so you go MKia

[maiden path]

if i had green day

[fleet zealot]

since that 2shots way easier

[maiden path]

i would just get in a helicopter

and kill everyone

[patent patrol]

... I'm still using this one.

just tell me what blessings

[fleet zealot]

it's faster, has more ammo,

k

[dark zealot]

of course you would

[fleet zealot]

deadly accurate+ surgical i guess

or headhunter

[dark zealot]

"its a presidential act"

[vestal pine]

you cant? that sucks

also no surgical on ilas

[fleet zealot]

my b

yea headhunter deadly accurate best best

[maiden path]

i am a hero to the downtrodden

[patent patrol]

got it. I do run a crit build so.

[dark zealot]

headhunter deadly accurate is what that old thing says

[fleet zealot]

no respite is alright but opening salvo has a stupidly long reset time on mk12 for some reason

[vestal pine]

if i want a ghost lasgun should i go mk1a open salvo ghost kek

[dark zealot]

ahh yes dopio and the future sight stand

[fleet zealot]

no the old meta was no respite opening salvo until they buffed deadly accurate and headhunter to be good, even tho ilas opening salvo times suck ass

[dark zealot]

epitaph i think its called

[maiden path]

im buying an ssd

fuck this

[drifting wolf]

dont buy stds

[fleet zealot]

i thought dopio and the boss was 2 different people, the boss could just project himself and his stand on others xd

it had to be spelled out in front of me

[dark zealot]

are you using a harddrive?

oh god poor guy

[fleet zealot]

rewatching it i felt like an idiot

[dark zealot]

darktide runs so badly on harddrives

[patent patrol]

Finally. My favorite weapon.

[fleet zealot]

i agree

[dark zealot]

when i switched to ssd everything loads so fast

[median steeple]

even on SSDs it can be slow

[fleet zealot]

idk, i'd just run las pistol or mkia on zealot

both just work ebtter with what we have

[dark zealot]

its a lot better than hdd slow

[median steeple]

also for HDDs once you load it up for the first time it loads fast for some reason

[maiden path]

im using my c drive.

[vestal pine]

true

[median steeple]

it's so weird

[dark zealot]

?

[maiden path]

with 150gbs

also my gpu fan isnt working

[vestal pine]

ill take a mk1a later and put ghost on it

[maiden path]

is that bad

[median steeple]

his boot drive which should be a SSD

[vestal pine]

what would be the other blessing if i use ghost

or shouls i get mk10 laspistool kek

[dark zealot]

yes

[fleet zealot]

probably headhunter

[maiden path]

idk it hasnt overheated ever

[drifting wolf]

yes your pc is gonna explode into shrapnel

[maiden path]

dont know why its not running

[drifting wolf]

duck

[dark zealot]

if the case has good airflow its not a deal breaker

[maiden path]

it has great airflow

[dark zealot]

but not ideal on anything more intensive

[vestal pine]

my lqptop gpu crackles everytime i play darktide i blow a fan on the laptop kek

[maiden path]

because i have it cracked open

I opened my case to try and fix it cause my gpu droops cause its not secured right

and i lost the screw

[dark zealot]

my case has about 9 fans including the gpu

[maiden path]

so now my case is open

i have 2 fans anyway

[dark zealot]

wait no 10

[maiden path]

also this is what i mean by c;drive

[dark zealot]

11 with the psu

and i think it would be 12 if i never removed that other fan

[maiden path]

does anyone have any reccomendations for external ssd's

[fleet zealot]

3 of my fans rusted off years ago

[drifting wolf]

brah

[fleet zealot]

like, the screws turned to rust

the gpu fan still works

[dark zealot]

couldnt you use a normal ssd

[fleet zealot]

and the back fan, thepower supply one

[maiden path]

my setup

is not good

[dark zealot]

they dont care where they are, they have no moving parts

[maiden path]

the actual thing my entire setup is plugged into floats from suspension from the cables

its like a mini indian street

[dark zealot]

its a little brick that just connects to the motherboard and psu like a hdd

[maiden path]

i do not want to have to unplug my entire pc and monitor just to install an ssd

i just wanna plug dat bitch in

[drifting wolf]

it really does not take that long

[maiden path]

i had to think about daisy chaining my pc setup for it to fit

[dark zealot]

get a little device, plug in via usb, transfer hdd to ssd

switch hdd for ssd, easy

[maiden path]

it will take me hours to resetup my pc if I unplug it

[drifting wolf]

a slight wait

[maiden path]

it is not goode

[dark zealot]

this is why a regular no thrills case is perfect

[maiden path]

i cant move my monitor because the cable is so tight

it is not goode

[dark zealot]

you just take off a panel or two and do the surgery no fluff

[maiden path]

it is not within my bounds to unplug my pc

i am scared it will never turn on again

[dark zealot]

mechanicus be like

[drifting wolf]

the machine spirit is probably mad as fuck

[maiden path]

once i get a new cpu i will set everything up cleaner

[dark zealot]

also id like to say having more fans does not equal better, just louder

[dark zealot]

or you do that now

that way the cpu surgery is easier in future

like youll have to cross the rubicon sooner or later

8% club

[median steeple]

man whoever uploaded a bunch of free mythbuster episodes on yt is a real G

[maiden path]

i do not

have cash

to spend

on a cpu!!!!!!!!

its not even black friday!!!!!!

[spare talon]

the final normal mode collosi is so brutal with matchmades that i actually had to go lfg a group with comms

cuz no one knows what the fuck to do

[drifting wolf]

was the same in the beta test

[spare talon]

i didnt pay too much of the beta

[drifting wolf]

i don't remember which boss, think it was devourer

was a wall for most

[drifting wolf]

took an eternity to down its shields, and if nobody was focusing on the blights that spawned it'd just regen them again

[maiden path]

ok

ssd has been found

wd black 2tb external ssd

for 80 bucks

[dark zealot]

That don’t add up

[maiden path]

amazon prime

also its like 4 years old

the ssd

ehehe

[drifting wolf]

youre gonna open up the packaging and get a whiff of anthrax

[dark zealot]

P10

?

[maiden path]

worth it

yea

p10

[spare talon]

actual raid-lite mechanics

[maiden path]

i'd whiff some antrhax for an 80 dollar 2tb ssd

[dark zealot]

So a hard drive

[maiden path]

its external i dont give a fuck

im operating on 128gbs when I have no games installed

anythings an upgrade

im not min maxing my setup like linus tech tips

i've lived comfortably with using my 2012 internal hd until now

2tb is only an upgrade

[dark zealot]

I’m not 100% on how speeds will be due to usb

I assume it’s connecting that way

But if you can spend like 10 bucks more for an ssd of the same size it’s probably better

[crimson shale]

Which blessings would you guys use with the Agni maul?

[maiden path]

2tb is the only bargining chip it has

its an extra 1000gbs

i want the space

i can live with its shortcomings for that alone

[crimson shale]

Using crit build with it

[maiden path]

all the other external ssds that have 2tbs are 120 bucks

[dark zealot]

You sure?

Crucial x6 2tb at least in the British land is 10 quid more than the p10

It is usb c though not usb a

[ripe quest]

Emo cut or mullet

[ripe quest]

This looks like Destiny 2 but if you gave everyone valorant abilities

[maiden path]

125 dollars over here

[spare talon]

warframe abilites

[maiden path]

i think ill live with the p10 for now untill black friday

[ripe quest]

Is there a real energy system or are you just saying that because it's an mmo

[dark zealot]

That’s actually cringe sorry

[maiden path]

at this point in time I do just need an upgrade

[dark zealot]

Fair enough then

[maiden path]

222gbs is not gonna cut it

[dark zealot]

It was worth a shot

[maiden path]

black friday deals will b better anyway

[spare talon]

energy system
you can me use some right as the video starts

[dark zealot]

There is mana

[maiden path]

ill get a new cpu and an internal ssd

for like 300>

mayb

[spare talon]

there are cooldowns too which i think are cringe when there already is the energy system but alas

[ripe quest]

https://tenor.com/view/table-fix-gif-23571155

[dark zealot]

Man why are 2tb so expensive for you guys

[dark zealot]

Certified stroke moment

[maiden path]

its ur consolation for having to live in the uk

u get everything cheaper

its like a end of buisness sale

u guys are gonna be underwater in 3 years

[dark zealot]

“More tax” though

And closer to the fr*nch

[maiden path]

i remember i saw a ghost video in the uk

and the guy lived in a fucking tunnel between alleys

it was insane

[dark zealot]

Are you sure it wasn’t bloodborne

[fleet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/shikanoko-nokonoko-shikanoko-nokonoko-koshitantan-shikanoko-nokonoko-gif-15682995968274295986

[dark zealot]

We have deer

Many of them

[maiden path]

like this

[drowsy steppe]

a

[dark zealot]

7/10 best art I ever seen today

[maiden path]

updated so it looks better

it was like this

it was crazy

[dark zealot]

Was it old looking?

[maiden path]

idk

i havnt seen it in forevr

[dark zealot]

Probably some old infrastructure then

Or you were dreaming after some mad drugs or head bang

[maiden path]

it was a modern home inside a little tunnel

[patent patrol]

That just looks like bad Warframe/Destiny 2. And that's saying something cause Destiny 2 is pretty bad. Well, not really with the Final Shape update but with how the company's been running things and abandoning a lot of gamemodes... yeah.

idk if warframe is bad. I know it became... something else entirely as of recent

but

[dark zealot]

The old content loop is still fine

[maiden path]

the guy had a doom 2016 chair

and he hit a vape

it was hilarious

it was a very fake video

the pc was in his living room and a big knife dropped from the ceiling and he hit a vape in the video

[dark zealot]

Like the majority of warframes content can be done without touching the open world stuff or railjacks

[spare talon]

warframe has never changed at its core

[dark zealot]

It’s just that last 10% that is all late game content

[spare talon]

it just adds new things

and anything that is drastically different is like a content island

[dark zealot]

Basically everything beyond the planes of eidolon is late game content

And where the core loop changes

[spare talon]

yeah
but ive done everything worth doing in both

so im doing this

[patent patrol]

I haven't played warframe cause I got stuck at one early part in the story and hated it.

[dark zealot]

Problem is the story has changed a lot over the years

Especially the early game

[patent patrol]

||Basically there's this scene where your character gets like disconnected from the ship and shit and all their stuff gets hijacked.||

||and you have to escape||

Should probably do that

for those who haven't played Warframe

[spare talon]

thats like

the first quest

[dark zealot]

That’s not bad what?

[spare talon]

is it not

[patent patrol]

no there was a lot before that

it was a whole story thing

[dark zealot]

Isn’t that like queen stuff?

Or stalker?

[patent patrol]

anyway there was this gas that kept blocking my path no matter how fast I went

and I just

could not figure out how to get past it

[spare talon]

yeah ngl i dont know what youre referring to

[patent patrol]

and gave up

[patent patrol]

And this is why I stopped playing

because no one knows what I'm talking about or how to help.

I swear it's like I made that shit up BUT I REMEMBER IT

and I log in and am greeted to it

and just DC.

[dark zealot]

Boot that crap up

[patent patrol]

Hell nah bro lmao.

[hearty nebula]

Bro means the part in the inner war where ordis kicks you out

[dark zealot]

And prepare to be back seat gamed

[dark zealot]

But that wasn’t difficult?

[spare talon]

the only thing i think it could possibly be is the mission you have to play if you die and lose your warframe from a zanuka hunter invasion

but ive never had that happen

[patent patrol]

It's literally me trying to escape the ship and not understanding how because some smoke shit blocks you off

[spare talon]

ive literally just read about it on the wiki once

[dark zealot]

Just walk the other way?

[patent patrol]

and kills you.

[hearty nebula]

Yeah that's the war within

[patent patrol]

None of the doors work

[hearty nebula]

He means on his orbiter

[patent patrol]

THIS.

HE GETS ME

[hearty nebula]

Send in a support ticket to DE

[dark zealot]

Yeah but your ship has two ramps

[patent patrol]

some bitch hijacks the orbiter.

[patent patrol]

and both get blocked off by toxic gas

if I try to walk up

and idk where I'm supposed to go

it makes no fuckin sense

[dark zealot]

You must be doing something wrong then

[hearty nebula]

you have to time it and it's a bitch, you have to go up to where you select missions

[patent patrol]

... Fuck it, you wanna backseat game me? hold up.

[dark zealot]

I mean we are offering to help if we can

[spare talon]

yes he does

he literally asked to

[patent patrol]

i have to reinstall the fuckin game.

but

gimme a sec.

[dark zealot]

It’s a shame for a fellow zealot to suffer if we can help

A sec

[spare talon]

warframe is like the size of 2 pngs

[dark zealot]

You can install it that fast?

[spare talon]

its so small for a game of its caliber

[dark zealot]

Ever played robocraft?

[patent patrol]

what the hell are these dlc?

[dark zealot]

It was like 3gb

[spare talon]

what dlcs

[hearty nebula]

WF ain't got no dlc

[hearty nebula]

they dont matter

ignore em

[patent patrol]

Oh ok cool.

[spare talon]

the current prime rotation
dont matter

[patent patrol]

For me the game is 40 gigabytes

so.

[hearty nebula]

thats like supporter packs etc

[spare talon]

its basically just paying for the newest warframes, those packs rotate as updares roll out

[hearty nebula]

^

[patent patrol]

Can't you get the warframes in game?

[hearty nebula]

Yes

[spare talon]

yeah you can

[dark zealot]

Thats for the whales and dolphins

[hearty nebula]

^

[spare talon]

p much

it is free to play

[hearty nebula]

Just ignore it

[patent patrol]

I forgot what Warframe I was using. I know it's one where you could like dismember things for power or whatever. Some melee focused one

it's one of the older ones

not a new one.

[dark zealot]

Nekros?

[hearty nebula]

explain abilities

[spare talon]

so microtransactions do exist
but none of them are hardly worth the money unless youre either warren buffet or get a 75% off for plat

[patent patrol]

It's basically Bulwark type shit. Really tanky and strong.

[hearty nebula]

rhino?

[spare talon]

rhino

[patent patrol]

that one

[patent patrol]

That was my main.

[dark zealot]

What’s rhino got to do with dismembering

[patent patrol]

I don't remember

OH WAIT, I think the melee I had used that for something

[spare talon]

didnt rhino technically get a buff due to his iron skin technically being classified as overguard now

[patent patrol]

or... something

[fleet zealot]

instead of warframe you should ferert

ferret

[spare talon]

so it has a health gate

[hearty nebula]

i mean... have you read rhino prime's codex?

[patent patrol]

fun fact, I used to have a ferret.

[storm elm]

Rhino's lore is that he dismembered a bunch of people iirc

[dark zealot]

They have codexs?

[storm elm]

Doom Guy style

[hearty nebula]

nono, not dismembered. ate people.

[patent patrol]

Yeah I liked Rhino, just for how strong and tanky he is. ... Is that bad?

like, is he bad now?

or?

[hearty nebula]

rhino fucking EATS people

[storm elm]

Oh yeaaahh

[spare talon]

rhino isnt meta
but he certainly is in no way bad at all

[dark zealot]

Rhino is meta

[spare talon]

he has some of the strongest raw abilities in the game

[patent patrol]

So basically not meta but definitely viable.

[hearty nebula]

Rhino will never be bad

[dark zealot]

Or at least part of him

[hearty nebula]

He is always good

[spare talon]

oh hi lemme just give my entire team a damage buff that affects abilities

[patent patrol]

Look, all I'm sayin is, if I can raw ult somebody and nuke their HP that's a character for me

LMAO.

[hearty nebula]

He has smite infusion via Roar since it's technically a buff to all faction damage

[spare talon]

oh hi lemme just give myself 1845y5ds8320 extra fake overshield

[fleet zealot]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hI5hFw_VleQ

[hearty nebula]

Which is OP asf

[fleet zealot]

wild ferret attempts to turn into gun

[hearty nebula]

very always tanky

[dark zealot]

Rhino breaks damage scaling

[hearty nebula]

and good CC

[patent patrol]

So Rhino's goated.

[hearty nebula]

yes

[dark zealot]

And is very tanky

[patent patrol]

I love that.

[drifting wolf]

yes rhino is god

[patent patrol]

JESUS CHRIST

[dark zealot]

Iron skin can reach insane numbers

[patent patrol]

Wait, do I have rhino prime or just rhino?

or is it JUST rhino prime?

[hearty nebula]

Mirage is my bbg though when it comes to damage buffing

[spare talon]

370 health
555 shields
68978689 overguard

[drifting wolf]

both

[spare talon]

overguard makes you immune to statuses and knock back

have fun being a wall

[dark zealot]

And the plot

[patent patrol]

Perfect for me.

I HATE status/knockback bs

It annoys me

I'd rather be in everything's face 24/7 killing

[dark zealot]

Login enough and get an upgrade for knockdown immunity

[spare talon]

there are two other frames that can cast it reliably, but rhinos is the simplest at just press button>get overguard

[patent patrol]

Anyway.

[dark zealot]

Game isn’t pay to win its login to win

[patent patrol]

I added you cole so you can backseat.

[hearty nebula]

nah mirage is just cute to me

[patent patrol]

you wanna add me to so you can join in on that?

[drifting wolf]

was it smth like dante and kullervo

[spare talon]

oh it was happy who wanted to do that
i have no idea how to help cuz i dont remember that part of the war within quest

[patent patrol]

I'd have to see what Warframe I was using.

I'm 90% sure it was rhino tho

[hearty nebula]

Styanax can as well with his augment

[patent patrol]

that sounds HELLA familiar

[spare talon]

i fuck with styanax hard

[hearty nebula]

I play a LOT of gauss, he goes silly

[dark zealot]

Neither do I lol

It’s been years since I did that stuff

And then like a year since I started playing again or something

[patent patrol]

Well hey, I can't add you cause discord won't allow it so...

gonna be hard to backseat

[dark zealot]

I went through a lot of the late game content in a week or two

[drifting wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/warframe-harrow-incense-thurible-gif-25397635

[dark zealot]

Have you considered a walk through?

[patent patrol]

also y'all said the game is small? I mean technically it is but for me it's like 40 gigs

[dark zealot]

40 gigs is small these days

[patent patrol]

... Ya ain't wrong.

[hearty nebula]

just pop me a dm and i'll be out of bed in a sec, can help then

[dark zealot]

That’s like three Skyrims

[hearty nebula]

Skyrim my utmost hated but also utmost beloved

[patent patrol]

You got it.

[old flower]

the indi shock maul is kinda fun on zealot ngl

[spare talon]

oh right this is the darktide discord isnt it

[dark zealot]

Yeah

[spare talon]

despite it all

[hearty nebula]

ok and?

[dark zealot]

Zealot chat is great we go on mad tangets but still return to Darktide to help the zealots

[old flower]

so in regards to the second half of that i have a question about a build i threw together

[dark zealot]

Fun or fun good?

[old flower]

running the indi shock maul and a flamer
havent come across any builds posted that screamed at me so i put this together

[old flower]

fun good from what i can see

only ran about 5 matches with it so far

[spare talon]

wheres the top half

[old flower]

clipboard being helpful as always

[dark zealot]

That’s the same image twice

[old flower]

yeah just noticed

[hearty nebula]

less braindead than my build at least. mine is just full on melee

[spare talon]

uh ok

i have a few things to say

the two nodes directly above both grenades

should swap to the other option

[fleet zealot]

why is everyone skipping amrtyrdom TDR

[dark zealot]

Yeah

[fleet zealot]

i don'tg eti it

whys

😢

[dark zealot]

Crit damage reduction but no crit

[fleet zealot]

i hate

[old flower]

gotcha

[vestal pine]

i didnt skip it!!!!

[fleet zealot]

autocorrect

[spare talon]

i was gonna say this

[fleet zealot]

it's like

[spare talon]

but i cant find a good thing to drop in his build

[fleet zealot]

scrier's purge staff

[hearty nebula]

my gear carries me anyways

[fleet zealot]

it's just bullshit

idk how i carry games tbh

i'm brain damaged and legally blind

[dark zealot]

The left grenade node

[vestal pine]

i should get that more

[dark zealot]

Wait it’s martyrdom

So not that

[spare talon]

exactly

[vestal pine]

bur idk if i want dodge 25% DR more than TDR

[dark zealot]

Bottom right

[spare talon]

unfortunately i think thats what it would have to be

[fleet zealot]

martyrdom tdr and benediction tbh you don't need good balance if you have btfe

btfe will be your "HP" dr

AUTO CORRECT PLEASE

[vestal pine]

fair point but i never get BTFE

[fleet zealot]

TDR NOT CDR

[dark zealot]

2x fotf?

[spare talon]

no

thats only viable on crit cdr

[fleet zealot]

does shockmaul consistently use heavies to kill

[vestal pine]

outside of like invoc fotf needs that 2nd charge

[fleet zealot]

the igni specifically we are tlaking about right

[dark zealot]

They don’t have crit tho

[spare talon]

chastise is the best option on marty cuz its allows the 2 charges for its uptime

[spare talon]

exactly

which is why he SHOULDNT drop it

[dark zealot]

Oh I see

[spare talon]

the second charge allows for both more uptime and more things to fall back on

[dark zealot]

So that does only leave the bottom right

But they are getting damage from the the top left node

[old flower]

this isnt super relevant but this is the loadout for it

[spare talon]

https://tenor.com/view/car-dreak-gif-4225905613113080592

[dark zealot]

Overpressure gang

Wait is that

[drifting wolf]

where is your lacerating flesh tearer soldier

[dark zealot]

Damage infested

[old flower]

the base gun had god awful blessings

i had to make the choice

[dark zealot]

Elites is good though

[old flower]

so now its just there as a meme with damage infested

[dark zealot]

And full perk

[spare talon]

hammerblow isnt needed on shock maul, swap it for lightning reflex or skullcrush

overpressure currently only applies to the direct hit, meaning it does nothing from the burn, which is where all your damage is

[dark zealot]

Crit damage

[fleet zealot]

you want lightning reflexes+high voltage

[dark zealot]

Can’t crit

[fleet zealot]

apparently skullcrushers is inconsistent by itself but whatever

evenw tiht grievous wounds and punsihemnt

[spare talon]

it is but its also like
if youre not even using lightning reflexes at all

whats the point

[fleet zealot]

i mean, it's extremely useful utility and damage buff

idk why you wouldn't take it

the mass stun is huge

anways

[old flower]

dont have skullcrusher on it yet but ive got an l4 lightning reflex i can throw on

[hearty nebula]

i already posted my talent tree but yeah my gear basically carries me to make up for my goofy ahh melee focused build

[fleet zealot]

i see people take hammerblow i think it's cause crusher builds recomnend hammerblow and people don't realize the only reason you go skullcrsuher hammer blow is cause there is no 2nd damage blessing

[dark zealot]

Exactly

It’s the better impact blessing

But that’s not better than a damage blessing

[old flower]

what would u recommend i replace overpressure with on the flamer?

[spare talon]

trickshooter

[spare talon]

quickflame or inspiring barrage

[fleet zealot]

blaze away if you don't have it already, Qflame or IB if you do already have BA

[old flower]

LOL

so

i just went to roll another flamer to grind out blessings i needed

[spare talon]

also sprint efficiency

[old flower]

direct upgrade to my current one

[still quartz]

Hadron

Brick this guy's Flamer

[dark zealot]

Bruh I can’t roll anything good

[still quartz]

NOW

lightning sfx

[dark zealot]

I agree

[old flower]

moment

[spare talon]

HUGE

[still quartz]

Actually

That's fucking good

[spare talon]

ACTUAL AMAZING

thats better than mine

[still quartz]

Fan the Flames to Blaze Away and Crit Chance to Unyielding

Congratulatuons

[old flower]

bet

[dark zealot]

No

[still quartz]

You now have a Flamer to kill god

[dark zealot]

Elite

[spare talon]

true

[still quartz]

Oh Elite

[spare talon]

elite, not unyielding

[old flower]

yeah id rather elite than unyield

[hearty nebula]

i know, im waiting for the perk unlock thing to fix it

[still quartz]

Yeah sorry I was still thinking of it melting bosses and Ogryns

[dark zealot]

Elite for elites melting to counter the big lads

[still quartz]

Forgor Flak was on there

[spare talon]

i have quick flame locked but i want inspiring barrage honestly, since i already have knife crit cdr to make an opening for a reload

with invis

[still quartz]

My best Flamer also has Inspiring Barrage

[dark zealot]

If carapace makes Ogryn tank

Why don’t we armour our ogryns?

[still quartz]

Lets you facetank better

[old flower]

its beautiful

[still quartz]

Good question

Report to Rannick for...

Questioning

[dark zealot]

Like then he won’t get ruined by dog

Dog bite metal

[spare talon]

guys

[dark zealot]

Dog cry

[spare talon]

literally me

[dark zealot]

Dog repent

[old flower]

still not as lucky as my boltor roll yesterday

[dark zealot]

Rigged

[spare talon]

eeeehhhh

[dark zealot]

This can’t be real

How do you guys get so lucky?

[spare talon]

then again im not a bolter guy

[old flower]

im not either

[spare talon]

so idk whats good on it for zealot honestly

[mint brook]

wlisten

[old flower]

so its just going to sit there

[mint brook]

so fiery piety is kinda nerfed now cause of dagger abusers

what if we buffed the whole thing again for 2H weapons?

[north sedge]

🤔

[spare talon]

what

[spare talon]

this was the entire reason it was nerfed

[tropic pelican]

it was nerfed because high cleave weapons got all your cd back in one hit

[spare talon]

cuz you got half your ability per swing

[north sedge]

Invocation was nerfed because cdr is outta control

[south folio]

if you ignore duellist and enduring faith, then crit builds are bad

just that shrimple

[mint brook]

oh from what i read people complaining about it was high crit builds like daggers

😂

[polar nexus]

pinning fire + shattering on a non piety build and pinning fire + cavalcade on a piety build

[old flower]

yo whats cdr short for

[spare talon]

i do believe it should have a cleave cap of 3 still and ill keep saying it

[south folio]

annihilated into shreds

[mint brook]

well there you go then i suppose

[tropic pelican]

cooldown reduction

[polar nexus]

also, inspiring barrage is not bad at all

[old flower]

ah

[spare talon]

its because theyre the most potent with them right now due to the changes

[delicate shadow]

tbh even without those crit builds are still gonna shit out dps just because crit city

[south folio]

yeah, though those two talents make it so that any melee weapon can p much run piety

[delicate shadow]

though yeah if you don't take duellist then you're kinda kneecapping yourself

[south folio]

regardless of their finesse as long as it's "good enough"

[spare talon]

https://tenor.com/view/bruh-why-jontron-what-gif-17277190

[south folio]

because the degeneracy of tdr 😎

[polar nexus]

for me crit build is just scourge + crit dr

you don't have to run piety

[spare talon]

i did not have a good time trying to use scourge and crit dr on shock maul honestly

[polar nexus]

and as a matter of fact, i run it with momentum or martyrdom

[spare talon]

without piety

without an external damage buff

crit*

[north sedge]

For me crit build is just vibes man

[old flower]

only three zealot builds made rn, and one of them uses a chainaxe
i have no idea what i was doing with that build

[polar nexus]

i don't use crit dr, just backstab dr

[vestal pine]

scourge never procs without firsthand crit help i think

[delicate shadow]

for me it's a drinkywinky

[spare talon]

yeah i wasnt using it on that build, i just took that pathing for knives on my way down\

[vestal pine]

didnt know this game had a backstab reducing damage taken

[spare talon]

cuz enduring faith + finesse weapon lole

but it rarely ever procced, either of them

[polar nexus]

my bad, cdr not dr

[vestal pine]

saul is on a wierd spectrum for me
idk if piety would run well

[polar nexus]

but backstab dr would be nice for psykers 😄

[vestal pine]

with crusher it did run well

[spare talon]

its fine, it is a finesse weapon and attacks decently fast

i swapped to piety with it cuz thats just where im more comfortable

[vestal pine]

cleave is kinda bad-ish?

idk

[spare talon]

and did much better

[spare talon]

have you tried attacking with the sweeps instead of the overheads?

that might help

[vestal pine]

me trying to make every build unique(which is why chaxe gets chorus) doesnt help much

[vestal pine]

no the heavy 1 has a cleave limit that is pretty low

[spare talon]

it has pretty good cleave considering it being a 1h blunt weapon

[vestal pine]

i find myself just lightspam

[old flower]

my only crusher is a 355 this hurts

[south folio]

heavies seem to have p good cleave

[vestal pine]

how is it compared to crusher h2?

mostly basing it off from that

[vestal pine]

same, hm

[south folio]

i wonder where they took their inspiration for what cleave value to use for saul heavies

[spare talon]

ratio

[vestal pine]

no idea why it plays bad in my hands then kek

[south folio]

really makes you wonder

[vestal pine]

special having wack cleave values

classic fatshark

[north sedge]

🤔

[vestal pine]

is this a calculator

[south folio]

ye https://dt.wartide.net/calc/

[vestal pine]

can i see whats the cleave value of pierce kickback

[vestal pine]

welp fuck me time to disregard every korean idiot saying shit and make my own

[south folio]

unintuitive to use at first and no tutorial, but click around and you'll figure it out

[vestal pine]

vt2 calc i exclusively used

it aint mattering

[south folio]

though be warned that it's wrong on a few things, mostly just stuff like sticky attacks (evisc heavies) and whatnot

[vestal pine]

hm

[spare talon]

inserting a knife gently into a dogs mouth

[fleet zealot]

Catch!

[vestal pine]

cant actually use manstopper in this

whhhhhyyy

[frosty herald]

Good game

[opal dagger]

been gone a while is antax w/ brutal momentum still good?

[median steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/warp-travel-warhammer40k-rogue-trader-warhammer-gif-27085699

[fleet zealot]

yea

rashad is generally considered more versatile and better but antax still good

[opal dagger]

really what they change?

[cinder roost]

they fixed it headshot

[opal dagger]

i see

[cinder roost]

it can now actually hit heads on the overhead strike down

[vestal pine]

antax good with all or nothinf? idk

[fleet zealot]

i guess you could

bit harder to maintain than just headtaker or decimator imo

[opal dagger]

i stopped before the skill tree so im just trying to sort it out

[fleet zealot]

gave rashad the same headshot prio antax had

rashad has finesse which gives weakspot damage and attack speed

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/rogue-trader-profit-factor-gif-24031910

[fleet zealot]

antax has cleave targets which doesn't do much on the single target axes

rashad has a staggering push attack, BM got reworked, it's better now but also less braindead

[frosty herald]

My allegiance is to the bag and the imperium

[fleet zealot]

basically, if you oneshot weakspot a dude, you will cleave and keep your first target damage, up to 4 times, letting you oneshot multiple elites

[cinder roost]

but it now gets stuck on ogryns which cancels the cleave

[austere grail]

wasnt that how it worked pre nerf

[austere grail]

oh. just ogryns now

[fleet zealot]

no

old BM after you got a weakspot kill, then you got a buff that made your axe ignore hitmass, you would still suffer damage falloff

now, while you can brainlessly get one weakspot kill and have a buff, you can have way bigger more impactful individual swings

[austere grail]

wait really?

[austere grail]

https://imgur.com/t9uJDUa

this is an old doodle for BM, isnt there no falloff

[fleet zealot]

that doodle is wrong lol

like pre BM rework

it was just, you got a weakspot kill you'd get a buff that makes your swings basically have unlimited cleave

they were still stuck with damage fall-off, granted, the minimum damage for combat axes was high asf

so for chaff clearing old BM was better

[austere grail]

interesting

[fleet zealot]

but new BM lets you apply first target damage to 4 targets, shotgunners, ragers, gunners

[austere grail]

I heard a lot that there was no damage falloff

[fleet zealot]

as well as being good for bruiser

[mint brook]

crit just feels weird now with 2H weapons in all honesty

[fleet zealot]

it is limited

you can't proc BM more than 4 times per swing

[mint brook]

genuinely considering swapping it out idk ...

[maiden path]

swag is for boys

dandyism is for men

https://tenor.com/view/slayer-slayer-gg-guilty-gear-strive-slayer-strive-gif-16945045883095995992

[frosty herald]

3 profit factor

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitty-kitten-money-rich-gif-26085286

-72 profit factor

https://tenor.com/view/broke-no-cash-gif-25565154

[austere grail]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDAUhd4pgz8

bruh this old video

shows that old BM had no damage distribution for 4 targets

you are gaslighting me

[fleet zealot]

telepots

[austere grail]

ok im being troled

[fleet zealot]

what

this is new BM

[south folio]

telepot's video is 6 months ago

which i'm pretty sure is post patch 13

[fleet zealot]

THAT'S LITERALLY NEW BM

[austere grail]

are you trying to drive me insane

[fleet zealot]

honestly you don't sound like you need help

[south folio]

bandit is talking about pre-patch 13 BM

not post-patch 13 BM

[fleet zealot]

i know what i'm talking about because new BM has the weakspot damage bonus xd

[vestal pine]

i think hes talking about pre-nerf BM where it was nerfed in this patch kek

[fleet zealot]

Was BM nerfed this patch thO?

[vestal pine]

not pen ogryns

so yes

[fleet zealot]

LMAO

oh yea

the ogryn nerf

[austere grail]

YES THATS WHAT I MJEANT

[vestal pine]

sir

thats not even a """"nerf""""

[fleet zealot]

then don't butt in on conversations

[vestal pine]

[sullen forge]

thats more of a fix than anything else lmao

[vestal pine]

anyhoo

[austere grail]

easy there tiger

lol

[fleet zealot]

when someone talks about pre talent tree and what has changed

[sullen forge]

God I recall how stupid Ogryn pen was with that pre-"""""""Nerf"""""""

[vestal pine]

you could actually achylis kill 3 bulwarks
i did it like once

[fleet zealot]

don't come in here saying i'm gaslighting and wrong

[south folio]

RAILGUN

[fleet zealot]

i am going easy

[austere grail]

lol relax

[vestal pine]

too bad i cant get to do that anymore

[fleet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-relax-monkey-chill-gif-20876602

[vestal pine]

was thrilling getting to oneshot 3 bulwarks

[austere grail]

i need that

monky massag

[vestal pine]

anyone think achylis is a better thammer cause it has BM?

[mint brook]

does shroudfield work with pistols?

[fleet zealot]

just you

[vestal pine]

it worked for me for a while

[fleet zealot]

should work

only for the first shot tho

[vestal pine]

you can make 2 shots work

[mint brook]

but what is now even the point of the dash then?

[vestal pine]

while cloaking there is a slight grace period

so you can shoot twice

[fleet zealot]

but guns can backstab and finesse

[south folio]

dashing, baseline toughness regen, and attack speed for 10 seconds

[fleet zealot]

cause dash is still the best ult in the tree

[vestal pine]

^

[fleet zealot]

with the best pathing

[mint brook]

but is there any gun that compliments the eviscerator well?

[fleet zealot]

mobility with ranged immunity, instant toughness regen

[fleet zealot]

anything that shoots specials

[south folio]

whatever gun fits the build
I just run brauto most times

[austere grail]

doesnt dashing make you immune to snipe too

[mint brook]

so shroudfield build is best with pistols

[fleet zealot]

it's evi you have no armor issues

no?

Wait

don't fuckign use

shroudfield evi

[vestal pine]

it kinda ruined me 2shotting crushers with caxe so i went using stelf for my caxe though.

[fleet zealot]

shroudfield doesn't work with chain weapons

[mint brook]

i am not

[fleet zealot]

for some reason

it's worse than chastise

[vestal pine]

does it only buff the first hit

[fleet zealot]

shroudfield works best with melee weapons or i guess, ranged weapons with high finesse and low shots

[mint brook]

i am using chainaxe on martyrdome cause it has the high base damage in the game iirc

[fleet zealot]

yea, first tick

[vestal pine]

cause like you could theoretically time to ripping part to match with cloak

[fleet zealot]

no

it's broken

[vestal pine]

to get maximum output

[fleet zealot]

if you try to stealth while attached

you will break it off the shred

[south folio]

shroudfield can't be worked around like with FotF last time i checked

[vestal pine]

break the latch?

that sucks

[fleet zealot]

yea

[spare talon]

not me loading into a hardmode twins attempt and being the last alive for like 5 minutes

[fleet zealot]

shroudfield has the same bug fotf has but even worse cause at least fotf can be worked aruond but activating after it connects

[vestal pine]

i tried shroudfield chaxe before

[fleet zealot]

you activate stealth, your attack is cancelled

anyways, the only real builds that are hurt by the fotf change are hsword and dclaw

[vestal pine]

shroudfield kinda has a usage in ranged buffing cause you can buff 2 shots

[fleet zealot]

since those tpyically leaned on ranged to solve crushers

[vestal pine]

caxe got hurt

[fleet zealot]

"can"

[spare talon]

both nerfs hit dclaw quite hard

[fleet zealot]

ok caxe got "hurt" but it's still anti armor

[vestal pine]

true.

[fleet zealot]

you aren't forced to run bolter or revolver

or bolt pistol

[spare talon]

cuz parrying with chastise was basically the solution to shit armor damage

[fleet zealot]

or mk3 HH

[vestal pine]

i used it well to dump fire twice

with kant shotgun

possibly i might make manstopper DB and go with stelf shotgun

[fleet zealot]

anyways, fotf gives attack speed buff, has the lowest point tax, has great pathing being below benediction and duelist

instant toughness regen

mobility tech

[vestal pine]

shroudfield is also fine but doesnt give utility as much as fotf