kamen rider has a fucking hilarious scene
#zealot-class
maiden path
dense field
On himself
maiden path
this spider guy turns another dude into goop with a laser
spare talon
acoustic dune
On himself
that too
maiden path
then it zooms out
and reveals he's on a slide
and he goes ''weeeee'
and slides down
tropic pelican
acoustic dune
https://youtu.be/63PuSnyDB6s?si=6bjxGQZSsYiCZLfl
every time i think of gianni
i always remenber that he VA for that one furry game
spare talon
what
acoustic dune
which is a vr pom game
maiden path
what
spare talon
in explicit detail so i can avoid it
maiden path
do u guys like kamen rider
there has to be one super-autist in chat that loves kamen rider
spare talon
there has to be one super-autist in chat that loves kamen rider
There is one
acoustic dune
in explicit detail so i can avoid it
the pervert in me won and stumble on it
played it
notice it
dats all
i can tell you the name
but i dont think you want to know
and now it live rent free in my mind
acoustic dune
https://tenor.com/view/kamen-rider-geats-kamen-rider-geats-kamen-rider-geats-wor...
god i need watch it for the joke
i like the behind the scene type joke they do
spare talon
https://tenor.com/view/car-dreak-gif-4225905613113080592
this is me when
ivory marlin
real
hard nexus
me but replace drinking with gambling
elfin steppe
Did they nerf invocation of death?
spare talon
Did they nerf invocation of death?
yes
once per swing instead of per target
i know youre an evis user so yeah that really fucking hurts
elfin steppe
not really, I stopped playing crit build a long time ago.
it just feels sad that the all nerfing and no buffing approach.
spare talon
i really do wish they change it to be a cap of 3 targets
cuz as it stands right now, the only weapon that is actually still good with it is the knife
elfin steppe
what I want, is to remove this talent
spare talon
it really didnt feel great at all on dclaw especially since i used the chastise uptime as a means to basically buff specific parries
elfin steppe
i think almost all zealots should take the second wind and yet you have to waste one point on this trash talent.
ember yew
https://tenor.com/view/car-dreak-gif-4225905613113080592
This reminds me of yesterday Auric HISTG mission, there was 3 people in level 40-60 ranges and they died almost instantly on Smelter complex starting sequence. I ressed one of them, but he quit after the first two, so i assume it was a group. Then i proceed solo for 5 minutes, then 3 new joined and i finished it later.
Smelter Complex reworked ending is much better.
vestal pine
i think almost all zealots should take the second wind and yet you have to waste...
...trash??????????????
20% damage increase is like
half a marty
or a slaughterer
and stronger than momentum cause idk
spare talon
but it rarely happens on most builds
north sedge
They should add backstab to every section of the tree i say
elfin steppe
I don't do backstab
spare talon
backstab cdr happens often enough by accident to be generally the better path on momentum, but a 20% bonus on backstab isnt something id genuinely want to spend a talent on on anything that isnt knife
north sedge
🤔
vestal pine
i dont agree, its pretty hard to proc but its something you can consistently build up
rather than luck crits
spare talon
but the point of a crit build to make it to where its rare for it to NOT be a crit
and thats easy to do
patent patrol
cuz as it stands right now, the only weapon that is actually still good with it ...
what're we talkin about?
patent patrol
the usual DClaw being nerfed thing?
patent patrol
well, on crit builds
patent patrol
https://tenor.com/view/jake-gyllenhaal-lou-bloom-mad-mirror-nightcrawler-gif-177...
... Between you and me, I'm starting to think you're being overdramatic.
vestal pine
i take backstabber on my hammer always
spare talon
in this case yea
patent patrol
I went back to my crit build and have been doing fine
spare talon
for comedic effect
vestal pine
20% damage increase even if its marginally situational too hard to ignore
patent patrol
for comedic effect
No I mean about it the nerf in general
I have noticed no difference. Like at all
elfin steppe
you always go for the head
spare talon
but i still have been taking a break from it because i did NOT have any good games with in the first few games after the patch
ill return to dclaw later, i remember saying something like that
elfin steppe
there is no point in doing backstab which deals less damage and is harder to hit.
vestal pine
you always go for the head
yes, but nowhere in that "backstab" says you should not go for the head for damage increase
north sedge
What
patent patrol
but i still have been taking a break from it because i did NOT have any good gam...
I've been still getting consistent results. I think it's not as bad as the patch made it sound.
vestal pine
it is not hard to backstab while hitting a headshot
north sedge
Backstab does not literally mean hit the back
elfin steppe
it is not hard to backstab while hitting a headshot
try to do it with an Eviscerator.
patent patrol
Backstab does not literally mean hit the back
TO BE FAIR it is called BACKstab.
spare talon
I've been still getting consistent results. I think it's not as bad as the patch...
then again i was also playing during the window of "teehee a shooter looked at you and so your toughness exploded"
patent patrol
then again i was also playing during the window of "teehee a shooter looked at y...
even then I still did fine.
vestal pine
try to do it with an Eviscerator.
dodge side swice and go aeround the back the hrode you jsut stunlocked, 20% damage increase
just that it doesnt get given to you automatically doesnt mean it's shit
patent patrol
I play with randos on damnation a lot. my crit build held up just fine on the new update. Hell, I made some changes to it too.
spare talon
it was the combination of everything that made me just go 
so i took a break from dclaw
elfin steppe
dodge side swice and go aeround the back the hrode you jsut stunlocked, 20% dama...
you are just wasting your dps by doing that
vestal pine
did i say i dont swing my evi while im dodging?
patent patrol
it was the combination of everything that made me just go <:fumble:9180340535868...
Yeah no, give it a shot again when you can. Trust me, the nerfs look worse than they are.
For me the build doesn't feel different at all.
spare talon
too busy playing a worse game atm
patent patrol
It plays literally the exact same and feels t he same
elfin steppe
why do I want to dodge when i shouldn't ?
patent patrol
too busy playing a worse game atm
what one
spare talon
11 runs of the fucking mission in TFD and i still dont have this god damn part
elfin steppe
my man is playing the game on paper
spare talon
at a 20% droprate
vestal pine
so you are exclaiming that since i dont use it, its bad?
patent patrol
11 runs of the fucking mission in TFD and i still dont have this god damn part
what's that again?
spare talon
the first descendant
ember yew
11 runs of the fucking mission in TFD and i still dont have this god damn part
aint that thing bugged
vestal pine
is that your argument? you can naturally dodge incoming attacks and try to matador to the sides
ember yew
i've seen a lot of posts about this
fleet zealot
alright to end the session, we managed to patch up our leader who took a greatsword to the face
patent patrol
the first descendant
Ah. I heard about that game.
patent patrol
is that your argument? you can naturally dodge incoming attacks and try to matad...
... What is this, TF2?
spare talon
i've seen a lot of posts about this
about what thing
vestal pine
this isnt just some unique shit that i have to do outside of what i normally do
patent patrol
We playin Spy now?
patent patrol
or it just RNG
I speak from experience. Any game with an RNG system for loot drops will not give you what you want. EVER. End of story.
ember yew
fleet zealot
yes, but nowhere in that "backstab" says you should not go for the head for dama...
some people unironically get stuck that backstab MUST equal stab in the back chest
idk where it comes from but it's something people will believe it
vestal pine
some people unironically get stuck that backstab MUST equal stab in the back che...
are those the same people who think shooting the back while the enemy is stumbling does the damage increase?
patent patrol
idk where it comes from but it's something people will believe it
To be fair. When it says BACKSTAB, it usually means hit them/stab them IN THE BACK DIRECTLY
That's how most games work.
fleet zealot
enough that i will adjust
patent patrol
when it comes to backstabs.
fleet zealot
in tide games specifically, pretty sure shade could also hit backstab weakspots
and in things like mmos, it's only implied to be the back, but you really only need to be behind your target
north sedge
Backstab always just means behind
vestal pine
i know this is a bad example but this shit isnt hard
"oh not i dont have 100% uptime this talent is shit"
fleet zealot
yea it's a popular enough belief it's one fo teh frist things i check in on people
spare talon
another reason why i wouldnt willingly take it if i didnt have to for non knife weapons
not only do you have to force it to happen
sometimes it just doesnt even want to happen
stable cypress
I do think backstab could be moved to a better spot closer to infiltrate, and maybe merged with ambuscade
spare talon
the first node on the right should be blood redemption
stable cypress
zealot tree in general needs a rework esp on middle path
vestal pine
that left part of the middle tree is quite ass yea
emperor's bullet also not really useful
stable cypress
there's a lot of mediocre or bad stuff bloating it on a class that really wants specific nodes on both sides
vestal pine
feel like they just designed SoC and called it a year
spare talon
dude everything in the middle part above benediction besides soc is shit or mid
stable cypress
and surrounding an aura that's niche at best
spare talon
i wasnt referring to all the way up there
vestal pine
ah
stable cypress
there's like 3 good nodes, that, anoint and shield
spare talon
but i do think that node is overrated
vestal pine
the aura nodes
stable cypress
I'm not including martyrdom ofc
stable cypress
oh and attack speed ig
vestal pine
this is just pathetic
elfin steppe
spare talon
ewew is underrated as fuck
stable cypress
It used to be really good before class rework but now you can just shid toughness out tha ass by dodging so its kinda power creeped
elfin steppe
2.5% toughness per sec, while the shooters only need three shots to empty your toughness bar.
fleet zealot
the point of EWEW is that it's a constant regen
spare talon
i used it with enduring faith and toughness stacking
ewew fills a shooter shot back up very quickly against that
vestal pine
this is also wack considering this is zealot
spare talon
also mitigates chip damage
fleet zealot
regardless of how fast toughness gets drained
spare talon
and that too, never at 0 toughness
fleet zealot
1 toughness>>>> 0 toughness because of game mechanics
fleet zealot
this is also wack considering this is zealot
tbf, middle is the supportish tree until you get to martyrdom
vestal pine
marty is wierd yea
spare talon
i also used it with dclaw a lot cuz if i was in a situation where i NEEDED to keep parrying, ewew and the toughness from any parry kills would never drop me below 95% toughness
fleet zealot
left is straight offense until it becomes crit, right is mobility, crit, then ending on mobility and damage
stable cypress
its really cool how martyrdom doesn't want most of the shit in the middle tree too
spare talon
ie ragers pre dodgeable
fleet zealot
martyr should honestly be swapped with blazing piety
vestal pine
right probably has the best design
fleet zealot
just on position
martyrdom keeps wants to go pure left, EWEW, bleed for the emperor, HR
spare talon
yes
it should
(it would make my builds have less travel nodes)
fleet zealot
Chastise being the best ult for martyr 99% of the time
IJ and piety are more interchangeable, i guess we could make the order martyr-> momentum for the support and range, and blazing piety for the crit
actaully yea
mid tree is also ranged bonuses
and IJ gives ranged bonuses
unlike martyrdom
grizzled aspen
I think piety being in the middle would also make it nicer for those that want to do ranged crit builds or just straight up use piety instead of ij.
vestal pine
yes
it should
(it would make my builds have less travel nodes)
shroudfield marty screaming
stable cypress
marty can actually skip bleed for the emperor b/c enduring faith, 2nd wind and good balance are kinda broken for survivability rn
spare talon
shroudfield marty screaming
yeah cuz no reasonable fucking person does that
random adder
I refuse to be controled by a calendar
vestal pine
who doesnt do that
random adder
happy new year guys
stable cypress
I mean you can skip top left entirely tbc
fleet zealot
people who use martyr with other skills confuse me, it's obv a stat check keystone
top left is fine
EWEW stops 0 toughness effects
spare talon
happy new year guys
this guy just changed my year without my consent
can we kill him
fleet zealot
BftE is just great martyrdom value
vestal pine
it does? feel like me getting shot by gunners across the map doesnt help me much on that
fleet zealot
in fact right side i find to have the least synergy with martyrdom
stable cypress
I'm not saying its bad, I'm just saying it isn't actually mandatory on marty
fleet zealot
it does? feel like me getting shot by gunners across the map doesnt help me much...
that's why you slide in and get close
middle side has restoring faith
grizzled aspen
can we kill him
Yeah he just made everyone older and I don't think anyone needs that.
fleet zealot
which is also great for martyrdom and is grabbed in the weird martyrdom durability build WITH bfte
random adder
can we kill him
I just overthrew time itself, you think you have the power to take me on ?
fleet zealot
fact is you are always going to want HR as a martyrdom zealot
spare talon
I just overthrew time itself, you think you have the power to take me on ?
i have a gun
fleet zealot
and chastise
grizzled aspen
I just overthrew time itself, you think you have the power to take me on ?
I have like 12 hammers, I think I can win.
vestal pine
and chastise
why?
fleet zealot
so you just naturally go to benediction and chastise
spare talon
and destiny has taught me than any problem can be solved if your gun is good enough
fleet zealot
because chastise is the least cooldown reliant ability with 2 charges
fleet zealot
gives martyrdom mobility it wouldn't have missing MS from IJ side
vestal pine
other one has 1 charge but yes
fleet zealot
and it's instant toughness recharge scales great
with martyrs toughness DR
chorus and stealth love cdr too much and frankly do nothing for martyrdom
random adder
i have a gun
time travels to that time you got bullied at school to give your bully 10 dolars to bully you that day
vestal pine
chorus and stealth love cdr too much and frankly do nothing for martyrdom
its 30 second though
vestal pine
unless you wanna make a oneshot build with marty
delicate shadow
chorussy GANG
spare talon
*time travels to that time you got bullied at school to give your bully 10 dolar...
how could i be bullied if no one remembered i was even there?
checkmate liberal, owned by facts and logic
vestal pine
i run this on my caxe build
grizzled aspen
chorus and stealth love cdr too much and frankly do nothing for martyrdom
I wouldn't say chorus does nothing for martyrdom. Remember that chorus is still chorus and gives you an unholy amount of toughness regen + overtoughness and can give you a damage boost on top of your martyr stacks.
fleet zealot
most weapons that are good iwth martyr specifically also aren't good with weakspot damage from stealth
fleet zealot
I wouldn't say chorus does nothing for martyrdom. Remember that chorus is still ...
chorus does no dps
and martyrdom is all about pumping dps
that's your other half of toughnses regen
grizzled aspen
Chorus literally has a damage boost node on it.
vestal pine
most weapons that are good iwth martyr specifically also aren't good with weaksp...
knife is good with it from what i remember, though currently out of the pic rn
grizzled aspen
I dont know what you mean by it "does no dps."
vestal pine
chorus damage boost is fucing bait lol
fleet zealot
does not make up for your ZERO dps
you do
during the entire channel
let alone praying your team actually uses the buff in any meaningful capacity
random adder
I have like 12 hammers, I think I can win.
time travels to a point in time where those hammers where trees to write on the trees ''whomever owns a hammer with wood made out of this tree is a loser''
vestal pine
marty supports teams by killing everything
fleet zealot
if you wanna min max your damage boost and overshield, go IJ or piety
fleet zealot
both are better with chorus it's not even a competition
grizzled aspen
Ok? It's meant to be a survivability tool, the damage boost is just to let you obliterate whatever made you pop chorus to begin with.
grizzled aspen
Plus it doesn't apply to only you.
delicate shadow
martyrdom+chorus isn't bad, it won't pump your dps but really the chorus is just there as an "oh shit" button for pressure spikes on the team
vestal pine
hit the highest attack speed bonus in the game
its 20% compared to ogryn's 25% p sure.
delicate shadow
also yeah the upgrade nodes for chorus are garbo
fleet zealot
but martyr without chastise is an angel without wings
fleet zealot
i run this on my caxe build
why tf do you not take TDR martyrdom
vestal pine
also my taxe build
fleet zealot
i will ginore it
vestal pine
why tf do you not take TDR martyrdom
second wind
fleet zealot
i run chaxe and crusher and other chad weapons
random adder
how could i be bullied if no one remembered i was even there?
checkmate liberal,...
time travels to when your house was being built to write ''whomever were to be occupying this house on 7/7/2024 is dumb'' inside one of its walls
fleet zealot
chain weapons don't even work with stealth cause fatshark is fuckin lazy
did they even touch or mention that btw
that chain weapons are somehow more broken than even the chastise interaction
spare talon
the amount of holes found in key parts of builds could be solved by just not taking these nodes
fleet zealot
with stealth
vestal pine
i run chaxe and crusher and other chad weapons
and this is my chaxe build
fleet zealot
and this is my chaxe build
why would you take a slow horde clear weapon
vestal pine
the amount of holes found in key parts of builds could be solved by just not tak...
boss damage is crucial and helps with ranged too
fleet zealot
with chorus
you know what that does
you stall out the horde and if your team are truly dead weights
you are going to get overwhelmed
vestal pine
i ran this on auric without issues
fleet zealot
yea cause players are OP
fleet zealot
the amount of holes found in key parts of builds could be solved by just not tak...
amen
u showed me the light
spare talon
u showed me the light
ill still take anoint if i have everything i want with 1 point left over and nothing else helpful to spend it on within range
cuz throwing knives within like 30 meters will get enough damage to one shot trappers to the body in case you fuck up
but thats literally the only reason i use it tbh
patent patrol
the amount of holes found in key parts of builds could be solved by just not tak...
wait aren't those nodes good?
like, really good?
vestal pine
or punishment node even
oh yeah i also use manstopper lawbringer in that
fleet zealot
you don't take unstoppable
with a chain weapon
that can be interrupted at baseline
vestal pine
why do you need that exactly?
fleet zealot
wait aren't those nodes good?
not always
fleet zealot
why do you need that exactly?
you don't take unstoppable
with a chain weapon
that can be interrupted at baseline
spare talon
like, really good?
theyre pretty good
but i think people put them on such a high pedestal that they sacrifice key parts of the build just to have them
delicate shadow
the only good node on zealot's tree is the bleed node, you don't need anything else
elfin steppe
chain weapons don't even work with stealth cause fatshark is fuckin lazy
It will deal more damage than TH if it works like how it works on chastise, it's not gonna happen.
fleet zealot
martyrdom toughness DR makes you so stupidly strong at your last 2 wounds idk why it's skipped
vestal pine
>you don't take unstoppable
with a chain weapon
that can be interrupted at basel...
light chain is fast enough to ignore said variable and PA/heavy doesnt have enough chaining to be affected by it
patent patrol
like lacerate sacrificed martyrdom toughness dr for them
... Oh wow. I think my build might be fucked now then cause I fell hook line and sinker for that
fleet zealot
i've seen people skip the attack speed AND/OR the toughness DR nodes
elfin steppe
I just feel embarrassed to use Mark XV Evi right now because FS refuse to fix the staggering problem.
vestal pine
i have thought of dropping revanant to get twbs instead
fleet zealot
light chain is fast enough to ignore said variable and PA/heavy doesnt have enou...
it's still a slow weapon so even baseline it likes TWBS
and you do use rev'd heavies in SOME scenarios
vestal pine
i do use the build more defensively
fleet zealot
crusher swings to the head
fleet zealot
i do use the build more defensively
It'S THE WEAPON OF KHORNE
vestal pine
thats a you issue
fleet zealot
BLOOD FOR THE EMPEROR, SKULLS FOR THE GOLDEN THRONE
median steeple
I should make a chaxe
spare talon
... Oh wow. I think my build might be fucked now then cause I fell hook line and...
like this is just my opinion but
20% bonus infested is basically nothing cuz thats just dogs and hordes
20% unyielding is mainly just bosses, and when was the last time you had an issue with boss damage realistically
vestal pine
also mostly took the middle nodes cause i didnt use those on the other two axe builds
fleet zealot
i do know that i've been pushing mk4 lights, but you still need the rev'd heavy for things like crushers or bulwarks if they are focused on you
vestal pine
and wanted to make it more varied
patent patrol
like this is just my opinion but
20% bonus infested is basically nothing cuz tha...
... 
spare talon
sure the unyielding helps with bulwarks but like
fleet zealot
like this is just my opinion but
20% bonus infested is basically nothing cuz tha...
you always think the last part until you get into a game and you realize no one has any boss damage for some reason
spare talon
youre spending a talent point on that
fleet zealot
or you get into a game, and no one has horde clear? like it's so normal to have it, you feel ,like you entered the twilight zone
patent patrol
sure the unyielding helps with bulwarks but like
My build struggles with unyielding damage. Aside from my laspistol but it needs the boost to do SIGNIFICANT damage from what I was told.
So...
vestal pine
or you get into a game, and no one has horde clear? like it's so normal to have ...
you do get like
hordeclear zero build for all 4 slots
in a blue moon
fleet zealot
i think the shitty boss team was purge smite psyker
vet with revolver who wasn't very good
dclaw zealot
and bleed knife zealot
vestal pine
hi did you call
patent patrol
dclaw zealot
I run DClaw Zealot. I run laspistol for boss damage but I think I need the additional 20% unyielding to make it work don't I?
and the anoint
spare talon
dclaw zealot
dclaw zealot doesnt do great damage, but it does decent and reliable damage
safely too
patent patrol
dclaw zealot doesnt do great damage, but it does decent and reliable damage
also really good for keeping the boss on you by just spamming the fuck outta parry.
fleet zealot
hi did you call
spare talon
yeah
safely for both you and your team
fleet zealot
I run DClaw Zealot. I run laspistol for boss damage but I think I need the addit...
why are you asking me xd
median steeple
is HT more preferable than thrust for chaxe?
patent patrol
why are you asking me xd
Idfk, I thought you might know.
spare talon
theres no real breakpoints yo ucan hit with bosses
fleet zealot
laspistol is alright for boss head pinging, but it really only shines vs BoNs imo
vestal pine
and maybe plagryns
fleet zealot
is HT more preferable than thrust for chaxe?
on mk4 you want slaught HT, on mk12 you want thrust+ one of the previously listed
vestal pine
cause he's quite easy to aim
patent patrol
laspistol is alright for boss head pinging, but it really only shines vs BoNs im...
to be fair it's my only option rn.
fleet zealot
pogryns have too much HP imo
spare talon
its just
20% more damage to bosses
you deal 20% more damage to them
patent patrol
cause he's quite easy to aim
Ogryns and Beast of Nurgle
patent patrol
no great anti large
Parry.
fleet zealot
too bad i editted it
vestal pine
no great anti large
i ran dclaw braced for a while
fleet zealot
dclaw is great defensively but it's not some anti large killing machine
and it's still not anti armor
patent patrol
i ran dclaw braced for a while
that was originally what I ran.
fleet zealot
laspistol dclaw sounds like it would suck especially vs flak
patent patrol
laspistol dclaw sounds like it would suck especially vs flak
... You'd be surprised.
spare talon
but something to note that you may not thinking of is
you are the only one with that 20% damage boost
there are 3 other people on your team who (odds are) dont have it, who can also deal damage to the boss
fleet zealot
i'm not surprised
i know it's been buffed
i remember pre buff dclaw
that tickled flak
spare talon
if all 4 of you are attacking the boss, that 20% damage isnt speeding up the fight by that much
vestal pine
but something to note that you may not thinking of is
you are the only one with ...
bold to assume they arent killing hordes
spare talon
from the 1 person
fleet zealot
it was an absolute joke you'd be hitting bruisers for 30 on first hit
median steeple
patent patrol
i'm not surprised
No I meant laspistol. DClaw does... FINE against flak now. It's not crazy strong but it's fine.
median steeple
fleet zealot
No I meant laspistol. DClaw does... FINE against flak now. It's not crazy strong...
and carapace option?
vestal pine
vestal pine
and carapace option?
pray
patent patrol
and carapace option?
Hope the team can take care of it because I'm too broke to farm for a revolver
spare talon
No I meant laspistol. DClaw does... FINE against flak now. It's not crazy strong...
eeehhhh it still has pretty bad flak all things considered
the crit damage is just whats counteracting that
patent patrol
LOL.
fleet zealot
Hope the team can take care of it because I'm too broke to farm for a revolver
then stick to malice or normal damn
xd
patent patrol
then stick to malice or normal damn
I play only damnation
fleet zealot
like god damn if i was in my current mood and playing
patent patrol
and it works.
fleet zealot
and i saw you in my game
spare talon
my great 550 dclaw roll couldnt kill a buckethead with a heavy overhead on damnation
median steeple
wait def or mobil for dump stat?
fleet zealot
i'd pull out the popcorn and the lawn chair
median steeple
I assume mobil
patent patrol
and watch you fight a crusher pack
I can promise you. I may not kill them, but I can parry.
A lot.
I am the decoy.
vestal pine
this is my ironhelm build
fleet zealot
one 
server moment and you are turned into grapes
patent patrol
one <:fatshark:1016285431194718278> server moment and you are turned into grapes
Counterpoint.
skill issue.
Imagine not being able to hit a parry in a 1 second delay 
fleet zealot
relying on your team to kill armor is stupid and will lead to losing games you could have won
fleet zealot
this is my ironhelm build
whyt
why take martyr cdr
martyr cdr sucks
it's the worst node in the zealot tree
patent patrol
relying on your team to kill armor is stupid and will lead to losing games you c...
1: Like I said, I have no other options. Period. I have no revolver.
2: DECOY.
vestal pine
why take martyr cdr
oh yeah wrong one
fleet zealot
hammer loves IJ
vestal pine
you take the other node
fleet zealot
1: Like I said, I have no other options. Period. I have no revolver.
bolter, mk3 HH
vestal pine
also this is my caxe build
fleet zealot
bolt pistol even
patent patrol
bolter, mk3 HH
Bolter sucks now.
both of em.
they can't do shit against carapace anymore
after the chastise nerf
fleet zealot
bolter is still anti armor and lol
vestal pine
hammer loves IJ
patent patrol
bolter is still anti armor and lol
No it ain't. It sucks ass now.
fleet zealot
it's still 4 crushers a mag in the right conditions
patent patrol
that's what it does.
fleet zealot
not ideal for zealot but if you need armor
that's the tax
chastise nerf didn't kill it
vestal pine
it didnt kill it obv
prime ridge
Lads, Could I get away with a dclaw on a stealth build or is knife supposed to be that good?
patent patrol
chastise nerf didn't kill it
No shit, but there's weapons that do what it does so much better there's no point.
vestal pine
just that zealot has less movement against crusher packs within reasonable timeframe
fleet zealot
specifically, hammer loves cdr, just not martyrdom cdr, backstab cdr specifically
vestal pine
Lads, Could I get away with a dclaw on a stealth build or is knife supposed to b...
dclaw stelf is kinda counterintuitive cause the strongest finesse/damage attack is the parry
fleet zealot
No shit, but there's weapons that do what it does so much better there's no poin...
ok then get a weapon that does so much better
vestal pine
specifically, hammer loves cdr, just not martyrdom cdr, backstab cdr specificall...
skill issue
fleet zealot
hammer wants to spam abilities for big hits
prime ridge
I know, but I much much prefer the horde clear of dclaw and having a parry over a little punch
prime ridge
This is my only revolver. Bad reload speed and stuck with surgical 1
what do you mean stuck?
prime ridge
You can rebless the reblesses
prime ridge
well get farming
patent patrol
I'm very unlucky
fleet zealot
do you know how to target farm
also we just had an event
to earn extra materials and dockets
vestal pine
also we just had an event
i spent it all
fleet zealot
IE if you are blessing hunting, you just upgrade 360+ to blue and decide if it's even worth upgrading from there
you can do this 2-3 times per normal damnation QP ime
vestal pine
this is the shit i do usually i think
fleet zealot
you check melk shop once a day
fleet zealot
this is the shit i do usually i think
that's the silliest strat i've ever seen
i'm going to bed
vestal pine
that's the silliest strat i've ever seen
it works
fleet zealot
the stam talent
is for initial engagement and after pushes and blocking
not for whatever
in tarnation
you just did
vestal pine
stam talent is for damage
fleet zealot
very rarely in real games is it oging to be just one crusher going for you
turning your back like that can get you scratched hard
vestal pine
ye, its easier to proc that talent
fleet zealot
stam talent is for damage
damage to the initial engagement, and after using pushes and blocks
honestly you could spam pushes and marginally be more effective,
or even PAs
idk
just not that
vestal pine
damage to the initial engagement, and after using pushes and blocks
every engagement can be done with it
fleet zealot
please
vestal pine
running and PA is what i use
fleet zealot
JUST PUSH And block
don't loop de loop
yer playing like a space elf
bout to call me monkeigh
spare talon
the ogryn pickaxe in the corner able to do that damage in 1 seconds with 0 buffs
vestal pine
i need to get thrust on that thing
also unyielding damage is better on thammers p sure?
grizzled aspen
Iirc you want unyielding and carapace.
ivory marlin
Yall ever accidentally ram your knee into a radiator support and gash open said knee?
Me too
Idk if i need stitches but this shit kinda hurt
fleet zealot
Yall ever accidentally ram your knee into a radiator support and gash open said ...
Ouch
fleet zealot
Idk if i need stitches but this shit kinda hurt
No go get tetanus shot
Now
No joke 100% serious
fleet zealot
If you are at the “maybe i need stitches” you already hit the danger zone
Lack of visible rust does not mean it’s safe
Good to know
Hope you turn out fine
ivory marlin
Ive been through worse
median steeple
still get it checked
ivory marlin
If god wanted me dead he wouldn’t do so through a radiator suppirt
ivory marlin
still get it checked
I will tomorrow its 12 am rn
ember yew
i did carsolas pickaxe yesterday and it slaps
spare talon
the only game i played with the kars pickaxe
that thing hard carried me
cuz my team didnt know what shooters were
or gunners
or reapers
its like they were invisible to my team
fleet zealot
I love branx
Hate shooters turning me into swiss ogryn
Too many holes as the bodyguard personality says
twin wagon
Borovians unite
fleet zealot
versed sinew
If god wanted me dead he wouldn’t do so through a radiator suppirt
-said guy dead from the radiator support
ivory marlin
Artists rendition
Its not that big actually
Theres some dry blood that makes it look that big tho
ember yew
the only game i played with the kars pickaxe
i slapped it with Headtaker + Slaughterer and the cleave was enough for me + all that damage boosts
ivory marlin
*-said guy dead from the radiator support*
He failed at killing me by having a truck not roll off a 40 foot drop idk if hed go “yeah a radiator supports got him”
frosty herald
Artists rendition
Amputation
ivory marlin
I’ve had a worse injury on the same leg
ivory marlin
My knee
median steeple
a toe?
ivory marlin
I have a small phone and big fingers
ivory marlin
How
drowsy steppe
idk 🤷♂️
ivory marlin
Mal is perma grey for posting cringe pics of shart and shart assosiated things
ivory marlin
So i have yitties now?
median steeple
gendah changing coffin
grizzled aspen
Finally finished the shroudfield penance.
Genuinely, screw whoever thought that was a good penance, considering the hitreg of "what is a backstab."
I swear half the things I did backstab didn't count and half the things that shouldn't have counted, did.
frosty herald
median steeple
me when walter tells me to do something
frosty herald
I need the expansion
drowsy steppe
Mal is perma grey for posting cringe pics of shart and shart assosiated things
they cant keep doing this to me
drowsy steppe
blegh
ivory marlin
You’re fighting a gay man mal you cant win
frosty herald
rogue sneeder
ivory marlin
You’re either honophobic if you win or you lost to a gay guy
drowsy steppe
I do not adhere to standard operating procedure
ivory marlin
You heard it here first folks
cerulean moth
Shadowheart loses to the witch every time. I’d let her curse me any time
ivory marlin
Mal hates that im gay
cerulean moth
Mal hates that im gay
🦀🦀🦀
ivory marlin
And that me and gale are happily married
drowsy steppe
gale mancers 🤢
ivory marlin
Im Technically bi but gay is funnier
drowsy steppe
My love for gale out ways my hatred of shart
L take as always
cerulean moth
If I met him I’d kill him on principle
ivory marlin
Bro fumbled so hard
Gale is a victim
cerulean moth
He. Fumbled.
cerulean moth
After he asked to eat my magic shoes I let him to his fate
ivory marlin
Ill feed that man any magical item he wants
ivory marlin
You don’t deserve gale
open pollen
Gale? More like inhale, 'cuz he be inhaling my magic items.
I've never played BG3.
cerulean moth
Gale? More like inhale, 'cuz he be inhaling my magic items.
I've never played B...
Ur funnier than most who have
ivory marlin
He fumbled a goddess
SHE LEGIT LIKE PERVED ON HIM
Bro got groomed by mistra
Gale is a victim by mistra
Mistra is an awful awful god
cerulean moth
If that’s true ill accept it but I prefer the idea of letting a man explode because he fumbled because it’s funny
median steeple
Mistra is just preparing to die for the 5th time
open pollen
I'd say the first one, since the 25% extra flak damage should more than make up for the slight power difference.
But keep the latter in case the itemization rework lets you change that perk
surreal shore
i see thanks
frosty herald
erm guys since when did hab dreyko get an update?
cerulean moth
erm guys since when did hab dreyko get an update?
LEAVE THAT HELLHOLE
ITS NOT WORTH IT BRUH
drowsy steppe
rannick just told me to cope
surreal shore
erm guys since when did hab dreyko get an update?
i love that one too XD
modern lintel
Funfact pox bomber direct hit to the forhead can kill you
ornate bone
rannick just told me to cope
"'Tis the mark of the warrior to cope with adversity. Not that it matters in your case because you're facing it anyway, but a healthy mindset brings a healthy operation."
fiery mural
I need help from the MkVII Hsword enjoyers: how do you make the most out of the heavy 1?
The Vermintide treatment of "aim like you're giving them a haircut" feels wrong for some reason
royal vortex
you have to drag it up slightly and then pull it down and to the left if you want to make the most out of the scoop
it's an uppercut from the right so if you have a static point of aim for the entire swing you're not gonna tag that many guys with it
grizzled aspen
Or just use the mk9 hsword. Much easier moveset.
royal vortex
you don't really have to pull it up if you're like max height but u definitely have to pull it down as the swing progresses if you're trying to hit multiple elites to proc deathblow
noble ingot
Is there no easy way to do "Behind Enemy Lines"? I'm at 96/200 and it takes forever to complete. Always have to run away from my teammates like a moron just to score a few kills
cunning knoll
Is there no easy way to do "Behind Enemy Lines"? I'm at 96/200 and it takes fore...
Exactly the way you do it im afraid
maybe try higher difficulties where the rest of the team might get distracted by a horde while you go kill yellow shirts
royal vortex
bleed is a knife weapon
noble ingot
Exactly the way you do it im afraid
maybe try higher difficulties where the rest...
that's basically what I'm doing. but I can barely score more than 7-10 kills in a match. 15 in 1 game was my top result
cunning knoll
Spamming shroudfield helps for backstabs
And i mean actively spamming once it goes off cooldown
noble ingot
ah, figures. I'm using Fury of the Faithful instead and just running around/sidestepping enemies to get behind their backs
zinc talon
bible thump em with holy relic
and while they're all cowering sweep a crowd
this is why I play this game
pale shore
Would a cavalcade/shattering impact bolter function as a good boss/crusher melter?
open pollen
Okri, did you turn the crusher into a cattle prod?
lean lark
Would a cavalcade/shattering impact bolter function as a good boss/crusher melte...
pinning fire shattering is better
something like this, but preferably unyielding over flak
i use it mainly as anti-armor which is why i havent rolled a new one
grizzled aspen
2% mobility... bro is literally a sentry gun when he pulls that shit out.
lean lark
why would you run around with a bolter
just magdump your target then reload and go back to your melee
zinc talon
Okri, did you turn the crusher into a cattle prod?
it is a CROZIUS and it is HIGH CLASS
pale shore
And on an eviscerator I’m assuming I want savage sweep/shred
pale shore
Let me get an ability that turns me into a war banner planting mf from vermintide
Buff all the fellas
frosty herald
I hate drukhari ship patrols
zinc talon
i want a flag a pole as a weapon
cunning knoll
ah, figures. I'm using Fury of the Faithful instead and just running around/side...
loner with fury
why
zinc talon
Let me get an ability that turns me into a war banner planting mf from vermintid...
that's an ogri's cohesion size and recharge talents
everybody gets all the buffs cuz the circles reach farther
pale shore
Perhaps but I want to physically plant a banner
zinc talon
well that'd involve usin a poop shovel to bury it
and I can't stand poop shovels
do yall know if 'on elite kill' talents are specific to the player or count across the team
ones like this and the psyker's elite kill talents etc etc
cunning knoll
probably only you
stuff that counts for team has it mentioned somewhere
zinc talon
zinc talon
there isn't anything in the baseline mod for picks yet
could maybe rig up a psucker staff
once it's installed it's as easy as pressing C in the inv list and clicking random til you find something you like
summer flax
Can zealot talents make it good?
zinc talon
but I'm a parts gremlin so I enjoy combing through the options, some parts like weapon shafts and power/force connectors have different lengths overall so you can make a crusher the same length as a shock maul or a thunder hammer that looks like it came from the main villain of a JRPG
sure, it's prolly not the meta so noses will bleed when I say it but it'd be a lot of fun with a max crit CDR build
since it's now only one credit per swing instead of one credit per target hit in the swing
spiral anvil
mk4 chainaxe 🤢
zinc talon
focus fire's as quick as CC horde clear so max the crit and damage increases
take it into WCM and shift all its various pieces to assault chainsword parts
and your brain will register brand new chainsword variant and it'll be fun all over again
some of the animations transfer fantastic
summer flax
mk4 chainaxe 🤢
nvm i checked the moveset 😭
ripe heron
Chainaxe is great.
zinc talon
auto rev light strikes and heavy bonks
it's a vicious lil attack style
thrust is the alternate to this blessing combo more or less
and this thing shows up to fuck
with thrust you'll be reliably one shotting everything except maybe crushers all the way down
thrust can tempt you into tunnel visioning on maxx staxx damage swings and make you liable to get hit or caught out, and the chainaxe already isn't the best when it comes to shutting down multiple things and disengagement
vocal pulsar
vestal pine
chaxe is a better antiarmor than thammer ever was ye
pale shore
is there any argument for running an autopistol over other options?
ember yew
is there any argument for running an autopistol over other options?
None, unless you are a pervert or for some strange reason this is the only weapon you got with good stats and correct blessings and you dont have resources for anything else
pale shore
i mean i do have one with good stats but i primarily just like running around fast with it lmao
i dont ever take it to anything though cause i cant find a good use case
the double barrel has my soul rn
ember yew
lux mk3 is worse compared to pretty much anything out there, like braced guns or IAGs
pale shore
im currently considering working out a bolter just cause i want to try and set one up to be a boss/armor melter
ember yew
that works
pale shore
what sort of curios should i be running
ive primarily played vet so my zealot is
a bit undergeared
vestal pine
f you want to regen toughness while shooting
thats your bet
very niche
and uh "while shooting" part doesnt include "while killing"
pale shore
should i be running 2 toughness 1 health, other way around, or just 3 of one?
i imagine i dont need stamina or wound curios
vestal pine
take your pick really
stamina is a good option cause more PA
wound can savw you in certain situations but thats about it
ember yew
what sort of curios should i be running
im running x3 +Toughness% with Toughess%/HP%/Gunner resist substats
depending on build im usually at around 210 toughness or so
pale shore
any decent advice for the purging flames penance? i throw them in hordes plenty often but the progress it grants feels so minimal
ember yew
any decent advice for the purging flames penance? i throw them in hordes plenty ...
Aurics should spawn plenty, should be easy, just do something else also at the same moment
the worst is still grinding backstab kills
pale shore
my worry is that my lack of being properly equipped will cause issues in aurics and inconvenience the others im working with
ember yew
fair enough
take it a bit slower then, i usually did 3-4 penances at once when i was on ogryn/psyker
with some cringe builds
pale shore
slamming my head on a desk when i miss a big box of hurt on the 4th elite/specialist
polar lodge
Fellas
Is it worth getting into a flamer build
I know it's probably not that good for anything after Heresy
lean lark
you dont build around flamer
you add flamer to your build
also, it is very good still (even post FotF nerf)
still will melt essentially everything in your sight that isnt carapace
polar lodge
I saw a flamer in sire melks requisitions that had an interesting blessing
4% damage that scales to how much ammo you use
lean lark
overpressure only applies to the flamer fire itself, not the dot
albeit they did buff the flamer fire dmg by quite a bit, i'd still run blaze away quickflame over it
polar lodge
What do those do
lean lark
blaze away is up to 50% power the longer you keepshooting
quickflame is +36% reload speed when your mag is empty
polar lodge
Only issue I have with flamers is range
I know it's a very sub optimal build but I run bolt pistol and Crusis mk II thunder hammer
vestal pine
also, it is very good still (even post FotF nerf)
it was buffed
so
even stronger now aside from crushers
polar lodge
Oh hey man
polar lodge
Huh
lean lark
yeah its not really small
just position yourself better
if you worry about long ranged enemies run the throwing knives
and learn to aim
polar lodge
I wish fishing for blessings wasn't such a pain
vestal pine
blaze away isnt much pain
polar lodge
Getting anything higher than tier 2 is
polar lodge
Oh wow
polar lodge
Huh
lean lark
blaze away has always been tier 3
unless im confusing myself
with some other blessing
polar lodge
That actually explains a lot, I thought I was just getting really lucky
ornate bone
My girlfriend's name is Blaze Away 3
Wait no
I ruined the joke
Why do I sabotage myself like this
"Sterling just edit it"
IT'S NOT FUNNY THEN
jaunty lava
Do i get shred, bromentum or headtaker for that?
vestal pine
deci might be a viable choice after they fixed the broken l2
jaunty lava
Well i'm replacing limbsplitter anyway
vestal pine
ye you should
royal vortex
My girlfriend's name is Blaze Away 3
my condolences
ornate bone
thanks, me too
stone fern
thanks, me too
you need a nap
polar lodge
Don't we all
vestal pine
anyone help me with killing 4 twins so i can finish sour milk
polar lodge
anyone help me with killing 4 twins so i can finish sour milk
I'm sorry 4?
stone fern
real
spare dome
blaze away: the threequel
stone fern
ill start the game
vestal pine
quickest way to get 8 mission play
stone fern
so tru so tru
stone fern
make them faster
vestal pine
makin bacon pancakes
polar lodge
I haven't done the karnak twins in a long ass time
vestal pine
imma be in https://discord.gg/4AAFhSrh
vestal pine
then its fine
kekw
no need to voicechat
its uprising
just stomp her
every 5 mins kek
it works
ornate bone
its uprising
bro I was about to join
vestal pine
smh
i just need to beat her 4 times
to finish sour melk
gonna try to do the no blow up trap more than 3 times also
ornate bone
beat her like a man 4 times
vestal pine
no
stone fern
invite me
stone fern
the code is the fatshark code
woeful basin
Trying to hit the head of a bulwark with the shield on with a chain weapon gives me weird results….
I basically teleport below the bulwark
ornate bone
Apparently Xbox players can macro tag to the attack button too
Or maybe there's some moddable platform with # in the username idfk I don't categorize temporary deafness
stone fern
@vestal pine infinite load?
vestal pine
looks like it
lemme rejoin
alright
vet last
i dont even have good fuckin
build
bolters only jeez
kek
hushed knoll
What
vestal pine
dc?
vestal pine
ah
makes sense
true
last run
if you wanna stick round after that might try to do the funny penance
i think that is quite hard tbh
probably needs like 2 gungryns focusing on rodin
vestal pine
beat offnsive with less than 3 trap explosions
stone fern
ah
abstract plinth
no, dont they reset today after 5pm??
abstract plinth
where do u live?!
vestal pine
korea
abstract plinth
awsmmmmmmm xD
hybrid compass
where i could see some zelaot build?
polar lodge
where i could see some zelaot build?
what do you mean?
frosty herald
Went back with proper ship stuff drukhari are ez pz
ember yew
where i could see some zelaot build?
merry flume
how are people slide dodging without having it on the same key
ive been playing with a crutch this whole time lmao
south folio
my dodge is on shift and crouch on C, which feels pretty comfy
zinc talon
storm elm
zinc talon
merry flume
how do you feel about that chainsword not having 3rd person rev sounds
it pisses me off lmao
zinc talon
yknow I like it more than the volume on 3rd person axe noises
that thing can get grating on a long mission
merry flume
yeah it does get loud
zinc talon
I get so tired of hearing it
I just spam it c onstantly for the back third of the mission
merry flume
in the heat of the moment sometimes you forget you're revving though
zinc talon
so everyone is as miserable as I am
oh for sure
the 13, though, I find I don't really rev unless it's a crusher rager or field boss
merry flume
i'd use it more if knife wasn't so fast that it desyncs from third person animations 😔
same with crusher
wait crusher animations might actually be synched now
zinc talon
crusher feels just fine, I'm most comfortable with it in third I think
it used to be pretty bad though now that you mention, guess it was ninja fixed
almost like the grenade gauntlet H1 if you fully bake it
you swing your arm twice
I think fatshark's coded themselves into a corner with the knife
people are so physics defyingly fast with it if they bring the movement speed back down to earth people will bitch like they're being rounded up and sent to the gulags
merry flume
evis has the best third person animations for zealot
crisp furnace
people are *so* physics defyingly fast with it if they bring the movement speed ...
Why would they nerf the movement speed
It’s the damage to unyielding and carapace through uncanny that is the problem with the knives
zinc talon
which leads me to my second point
they've enshrined the stupidest weapons on offer as the most effective things to be using in whatever capacity they excel in
merry flume
i think uncanny should just be a flat % increase on weakspot hit
fleet zealot
It’s the damage to unyielding and carapace through uncanny that is the problem w...
Not even uncanny
crisp furnace
Aye true but uncanny is where it gets a tad silly
I would nerf the finesse multiplier in general for the knife
zinc talon
so now a flimsy hinge poop shovel, a five shot goofy revolver, and a four inch butcher knife are the hardest hitting things in the game
fleet zealot
Riposte+ precog and going pure scourge+ piety lets you hit like 90% crit chance and just use all your crit adms
zinc talon
over, you know, bolters chainsaw swords and plasma guns
the things war40k is known for
merry flume
delete uncanny but still keep duelist/precog
zinc talon
play darktide! use a boot knife! kill things in platemail!
crisp furnace
so now a flimsy hinge poop shovel, a *five shot* goofy revolver, and a four inch...
May I introduce you to the Rashad
vestal pine
bolter plasma chainswords are still quite great
zinc talon
it's inane
vestal pine
also rashad
crisp furnace
also rashad
My fav weapon
zinc talon
come to the land of chainsaw axes! use a boot knife!