zealot-class

[maiden path]

i have to be a void cowboy

[carmine plover]

there are so many hand cannons in solar, what do you mean?

[spare talon]

The last word

Is kinetic

@maiden path there is a lever action rifle from the current season that is solar

[maiden path]

yuh

i saw that

i wanna get it

but idk how

[carmine plover]

You mean Still Hunt?

or did we get another wild west rifle

[spare talon]

That's a sniper

[carmine plover]

it's a super in weapon form

[spare talon]

But it's not a lever action rifle

[drifting wolf]

there is actually a seasonal solar lever action

[carmine plover]

tbh I haven't tried any of the seasonal weapons yet

[spare talon]

Timeworn wayfarer is from the current season and thus requires the newest dlc

[drifting wolf]

timeworn wayfarer

[carmine plover]

the grind for power level keeps me a prisoner to my current loadout

[drifting wolf]

grenade launcher is mini stasis witherhoard, not as lethal but it's not an exotic

the one people are waiting for is the solar rocket sidearm

[maiden path]

50 dolar dlc

i refus..

[carmine plover]

I refuse to use witherhoard anyway, mostly because I'm just not gonna get the catalyst quest done lol

[spare talon]

Didn't do it during arrivals
Skissue

[carmine plover]

Guess I'll look into Timeworn Wayfarer once I can craft it

[carmine plover]

I only started playing again during season of the wish

[red mesa]

I'm 3/5 for auric survivor achievement. Anyone wanna join me whos solid in auric maelstroms to help beat 2 missions, so I don't have to throw it away to the whims of rando's? (I refuse to cheese it)

[grizzled aspen]

Catalyst quest is 100% worth it. Alh on whoard is broken af.

[carmine plover]

I know, but crucible is ass

[grizzled aspen]

This is true.

However.

Iron banana makes it doable.

[carmine plover]

I'm waiting on momentum control

[grizzled aspen]

Just launch whoard at zones while they're being captured and maybe you can get a stick.

Oh if you do that in momentum control you're a monster.

[carmine plover]

I'll do it in the way that requires me to spend the least amount of time in crucible

I'd willingly do it in gambit if it was reasonably quick

I think the only time I had fun in pvp was 2 shotting people with Ticuu's

which was hilarious

OH, Timeworn can get Heal Clip + Incandescent

now I'm interested

[drifting wolf]

heal clip, dual loader and whatnot

it's the only lever action scout with some kind of reflex sight

[carmine plover]

Heal Clip Incandescent is just such a tried and true combo

it trivializes so much content

[drifting wolf]

dual loader's prob better in the crucible, goes from 2 to 4 rounds loaded

[carmine plover]

I will probably never willingly play crucible again so uh

good to know tho

[frosty herald]

we stay posted

[fresh talon]

with timeworn wayfarer, strategist is a pretty good perk to roll for as well in column 3

[drifting wolf]

hazardous propulsion go

[fresh talon]

using class gives a bunch of stability and kills give class

[carmine plover]

I'm a Hunter, class ability energy is the least of my worries

[patent patrol]

I was wondering. Are there any other warhammer-type games SIMILAR to this? I don't mean like, looter shooters or whatever you call this, I just mean more of this type of gameplay. Where you just kill shit in front of you and do missions. I know of VT2 but it feels less enjoyable than this game. I played Space Hulk Deathwing and have a blast with it. I know a new game is coming soon too that's similar to space hulk deathwing.

so can't wait for that.

[carmine plover]

Space Marine?

[patent patrol]

Yeah, somethin like that.

I don't remember the name

[drifting wolf]

space marine 2

[carmine plover]

Space Marine 2 is coming soon(tm)

[patent patrol]

I just know the game seems similar to space hulk

at least gameplay wise.

[patent patrol]

Yeah I can't wait for that one.

that one looks fun

[drifting wolf]

nah i think space marine is more like being a combine and the enemies are the grains you must harvest

[patent patrol]

eh?

[drifting wolf]

you are unstoppable basically

[patent patrol]

So... basically a powertrip blast through everything game

[spare dome]

dynasty warriors

[patent patrol]

... unironically never heard of or played that

LMAO

[spare dome]

damn todays youths

[patent patrol]

What is it?

lol

some powertrip type game where you kill everything?

or?

[frosty herald]

Smh

[spare talon]

Never played dynasty warriors
But I've played hyrule warriors age of calamity and persona 5 strikers

[frosty herald]

You kill massive hordes of enemies

[patent patrol]

OH IT'S ONE OF THOSE.

[drifting wolf]

beating the shit out of fodder

[patent patrol]

Ok I get you.

[patent patrol]

I love hack n slash type games so.

[spare talon]

Dynasty warriors inspired those

[patent patrol]

Ok that makes a lot of sense.

I love hack n slash games so I might pick that up

is that what space marine is?

[spare talon]

Massive hordes of enemies
Swinging and hitting 50+ people at a time

[patent patrol]

basically a sorta hack n slash?

type thing?

[drifting wolf]

seems so

[north sedge]

Just look at gameplay footage

[drifting wolf]

there's gameplay footage where it's an actual endless swarm of little tyranid grunts running into the arena

[north sedge]

Even of space marine 1, since 2 seems like it's very much the updated version of that

[patent patrol]

Ok so that game might be for me.

[ivory marlin]

hi gamers

i am still sick

[patent patrol]

Ok I have a question for you all then. What Dynasty Warriors game would y'all recommend? The ones available on steam are 9, 9 empires, 8 empires, 8 xtreme legends complete edition, 9 complete edition, and that's really it.

Idk if any are good.

I see 9 is considered bad based on reviews

9 empires and 8 empires are mixed

[spare dome]

i havent played dynasty warriors since the PS2

[round latch]

THERE IS ONLY SWORD

[patent patrol]

ah.

Dynasty Warriors Origins isn't available but apparently it's coming out sooner or later

idk what it is.

[maiden path]

beware of lu bu

@spare talon do u have a void build

that works without an exotic

solar doesnt work great without a solar weapon

cant get enuf ignitions

huntr

[grizzled aspen]

You don't need ignitions.

There's a setup you can get to give you throwing knives back on throwing knife kills. Use that and gambler's dodge to have infinite knives.

[maiden path]

how

!!!

[grizzled aspen]

If you use fan of knives you can even ignite large targets (hive knights, for example) to get your knives back and not have to waste time shooting at them.

[maiden path]

thats what I need

[grizzled aspen]

Gimme a sec to pull up my hunter.

[maiden path]

doesnt fix the health problem doe

i can jus hid ebehind shit 2 heal

[grizzled aspen]

You need knock em down as one of your aspects and the fragment that gives radiant on powered melee hits.

Knock em down refunds your throwing knife as long as you're radiant and your throwing knives, themselves, will make you radiant.

If you use fan of knives you can throw all 3 point blank into a chunky target, dodge to get it back, then do it again and the target will ignite.

[maiden path]

wtf...

goodbye gunpowder gamble..

[grizzled aspen]

My personal favorite exotic for this is ophidia spathe as you get double throwing knife charges.

[maiden path]

GAAAY

lucky pants

[grizzled aspen]

And your dodge resets both charges.

[maiden path]

but u need the radient knives 2 make urselv radient

also u have to get final blows with it

also the radient knives dont ingite

ignite

[spare talon]

So glad I have a coworker who can be on their lunch break in the break room and I can just walk in to check what's in the fridge and say "cole jumpscare" and he just responds with "holy shit cole jumpscare irl"

[grizzled aspen]

The radiance applies before the target is considered dead. Ignitions only work with fan of knives on large targets because you need to hit at least 5(?) knives. (been a minute since I've played so I'm not exactly certain, may also need the fragment that makes you do more scorch stacks)

Yes actually I do have ember of ashes equipped so try putting that on.

[elfin steppe]

should i buy it

[grizzled aspen]

Honestly? I would.

Blessings can be fixed easily.

Perks aren't that bad, either.

[spare talon]

That finesse tho

[grizzled aspen]

Just bonk them harder.

Use martyrdom and you can achieve sufficient bonkage that 65% finesse isn't a deciding factor for most bps.

[austere grail]

Is falter good on shock maul

Dunno what the synergy on blessings is

[misty nova]

I think it has enough stagger so falter kinda not it

[frosty herald]

Me in my gamer chair sitting like a burocrat figuring out rogue trader colony building

[maiden path]

cole mcgrath jumpscare

https://tenor.com/view/infamous-cole-macgrath-hello-chat-gif-2149293544206100744

[grizzled aspen]

Going to eat it.

[hushed knoll]

I see you changed your name

[fleet zealot]

yea i stan'd myself on accident

[fleet zealot]

do not the ferret

[grizzled aspen]

It is too late.

Homemade ferret and noodles. (it's mongolian beef)

[fleet zealot]

disgusting

[tribal estuary]

thinking of trying the new shock mauls and double barrel, what differences are there between the 3 mauls?

[grizzled aspen]

There's only 2 mauls.

And the only difference is moveset.

Agni is more strikedown, indignatus is more crowd control.

[tribal estuary]

oh yea there is only 2

[grizzled aspen]

So its really just preference.

[tribal estuary]

i thought the first one was diff model

wait no im looking at the crusher not the maul

[spare talon]

Two are shock mauls and the third is the crusher

[wintry ore]

lads how is this roll on the chain axe

is the low shredder gonna fuck me over?

[grizzled aspen]

Shredder only affects rev damage, so not really.

If you're just using it as general purpose chaff clear then it's fine.

Otherwise you'd want shredder to also be high.

[slow stag]

What's the superior heavy evisc mk 2 or mk15

[grizzled aspen]

Can't really judge whether one is superior over the other because they fulfill different purposes.

The mk2 heavies are for horde clear and the mk15 heavies are for single target damage.

Wait I might've misinterpreted your question

"Heavy eviscerator" is their actual weapon class...

[ripe quest]

You wouldn't be using a Chaxe for general purpose chaff clear as its main purpose. The thing shines w/ the ST damage it outputs.

[grizzled aspen]

The eviscerators themselves are basically the same with different movesets. The mk2 has sticky lights and side sweeping heavies, the mk15 has side sweeping lights and sticky heavies.

[red mesa]

I'm 3/5 for auric survivor achievement. Anyone wanna join me whos solid in auric maelstroms to help beat 2 missions, so I don't have to throw it away to the whims of rando's? (I refuse to cheese it)

[grizzled aspen]

Go look in the lfg channels.

Much more likely to find someone that is willing and able to help you there.

[red mesa]

ah gotcha ok

[grizzled aspen]

That's why I said the next sentence afterwards.

[dark zealot]

the third character has a part locked behind an escort mission

[south folio]

lights on both don't stick and heavies on both stick (with the sweeping heavy having to reach the cleave limit before sticking)

in addition the mk2 strikedown heavy does less damage than mk15 strikedowns, seemingly from the fact that it ticks one less (their heavy strikedown special also differs in damage)

[slow stag]

man the combat axes are really good arent they

[grizzled aspen]

I'm going to plea stupidity on this one as my sleep deprived brain mixed up chaxe and eviscerator movesets.

For reference, I've been awake for 14 hours.

I should probably sleep!

[south folio]

why is the evis strikedown light worse into carapace than the sweeping light
what in the fresh hell

[zinc talon]

everywhere I look I'm reminded of my ex

[spare dome]

its to remind you that the universe is a cold dead place

[south folio]

grimdark 😔

[zinc talon]

do not speak to me of the deep magic, I was there

I'm surprised that meme has any pixels left it's so (g)old

wuups wrong channel

[fleet zealot]

rashad vs maniac moment

[coarse birch]

yeah evis has some weird stuff going on iirc

[south folio]

guh

i decide to pick a new weapon up and it decides to have some weird shit going on

[hushed knoll]

Hello Arco

[hushed knoll]

Hello Yoshi

[coarse birch]

hi stan

[zinc talon]

is this the preferred variant all the revolver weirdos use

[tribal estuary]

what are some good blessings to pair with indignatus shock maul

[zinc talon]

skullcrusher, high voltage

[grizzled aspen]

Define "revolver weirdos."

[spare talon]

This is the overall weaker version

[tribal estuary]

what abt opportunist and stunned expression, are those viable too?

[spare talon]

But

[coarse birch]

no zarona is leagues better but thats still a fine weapon

[spare talon]

It is the COOLER version

[coarse birch]

however your comparing a broken weapon to a balanced weapon so

[spare talon]

So buy it due to sheer principal

[coarse birch]

yeah itll lose out

[vestal pine]

not great but ye

big iron on his hiiiip

[spare talon]

Opportunist is one of the worst blessings on that

[spare dome]

unless you bottom roll penetration

[vestal pine]

tbh fatshark cooked with rending bait

[spare talon]

It gives rending but requires enemies to be staggered, and most things you benefit from having rending are difficult to stagger

Not to mention that the weapons pen against all armor is so high that it's basically a non issue

[fleet zealot]

and it has high ADMs

[grizzled aspen]

If opportunist was on other weapons it'd be a good blessing, but on the mauls, which don't need rending, it's not.

[spare talon]

90% Cara damage at 80% pen

[grizzled aspen]

Imagine if dclaws got opportunist...

[spare talon]

Like you don't need rending, just take more damage

[coarse birch]

i would like to see rending trend towards being more conditional but yeah that ones not great

[fleet zealot]

also it's like, nowhere near the rending of 100% like uncanny gives

[vestal pine]

tbh idk if dclaw can use it well

[vestal pine]

shhhhhhh we dont talk about uncanny

[grizzled aspen]

I mean, isn't the parry considered a stagger?

[fleet zealot]

skullcrusher+ perfect timing (or whatever the fucking name of the timed block)

[grizzled aspen]

That would proc opportunist, no?

[vestal pine]

it has fuckton of stagger

but you'll have to combo with lights

[fleet zealot]

or skullcrusher high voltage

[grizzled aspen]

So yeah it would basically be 25% bonus damage to your parry, every time.

[vestal pine]

i rate HV>Skullcrusher still

[spare talon]

High voltage is the mandatory one

Not skullcrusher

[tribal estuary]

also should i just stop using weapon customization mod, i keep crashing despite running really low settings

[fleet zealot]

really?

i guess i can see it,

[vestal pine]

skullcrusher can get more damage but like the stagger is like you said, cant be easily done to stuff that matters when electricity can be done

[zinc talon]

thanks frens

[coarse birch]

it does make memory leak issues worse yeah

[spare talon]

It's due to wep customize making the existing memory leak waaaay worse

[fleet zealot]

i thought skullcrusher hits a hgiher cap and on zealot specifcally we can get grievous and punishment'

[vestal pine]

i tried grevious

uh

doesnt help much it seems

its fun to maul maulers

[spare talon]

But high voltage is 25% with the only requirement being to hit them once

[tribal estuary]

[vestal pine]

thats about it from my findings

[fleet zealot]

fair enough

[vestal pine]

ragers somehow get away at times, looks like they have the grace window just like crusher does

[spare talon]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046913589614747719/1256156049602510849/Darktide_2024.06.25-23.14_1.mp4?ex=6686557c&is=668503fc&hm=3b93474dd49df19d978e97a73922e0d295411c5ef1bbfb2ec2e2337141c27ccb&

[slow stag]

this saveable ?

i assume savage sweep to rampage and crit hit dmg to flak or something

[spare talon]

You got it

[fleet zealot]

what this eman

mean

[spare talon]

Won't be the best but certainly good

[fleet zealot]

man mean

mean men made men mean

[slow stag]

best would be dump stat mobility flak/maniac and the rampage/momentum right?

[spare talon]

I'm showing the damage increase from just hitting him

[south folio]

cole is sending a threat to you

[spare talon]

No talents so nothing else can buff damage

[south folio]

no more ferretposting or else

[spare talon]

So you can see it clearly

[spare talon]

@fleet zealot it's what I'm gonna do to you

[slow stag]

hey for the mk15 heavy evisc do u run piety or inexorable ?

[spare talon]

Not piety

[fleet zealot]

IJ always safe

[spare talon]

Judgement for just all around buffs, can't go wrong with it
Marty if that's your thing

[grizzled aspen]

I exclusively run martyr with chain weapons.

[slow stag]

marty eh

[vestal pine]

https://tenor.com/view/judgement-ultrakill-gif-25859663

[spare talon]

But the mk15 doesn't benefit at all from piety anymore realistically

[slow stag]

triple wound curios or 2 wound and 1 toughness ?

[spare talon]

All wound if you go marty

[vestal pine]

marty is triple wound or bust

[grizzled aspen]

You can do some really silly damage with max martyr stacks and an eviscerator.

[vestal pine]

i saw like 1 build with 2 wound 1 toughness to get 175 toughness

i tried it

didnt like it that much

[grizzled aspen]

I think a 2shot is possible on just about all bosses with fotf.

Maybe not dh.

[spare talon]

But like I said, that's just if it's your thing
If you don't vibe with it then just go judgement

[grizzled aspen]

I'd have to test with creature spawner.

[slow stag]

il prob have to update my marty build

zealot chat helped me a ton with my IJ build i was extremely outdated on whats good now

[south folio]

piety'll still be fine if you like your enduring faith, and duellist is still a thing

[fleet zealot]

evi has poor finesse ratios

so duelist doesn't help that much

[spare talon]

Yeah you're just better off using those points elsewhere imo

[south folio]

though it's not god awful and that's all that matters

[spare talon]

I will give you weird looks if you use piety evis

[hot jolt]

LOL

[spare talon]

Wow that was a hot minute ago

Only 3000

[slow stag]

crap haha do u have to sac second wind

u do dont you

[vestal pine]

i do

[grizzled aspen]

I use piety thammer.

[south folio]

i run piety on all weapons cuz it's just degenerate comfiness

[spare talon]

You don't count

[south folio]

can't wait for them to kill the tdr and tune duellist down

[spare talon]

Same here but i only play finesse weapons so

[vestal pine]

you cant ignore me forever

[hot jolt]

im now realizing people talk about me 😛

[spare talon]

I've seen lots of people talk about skudie and I've played with em a few times
Then saw not too long ago they're in your server lmao

[slow stag]

any tips for a modern marty build

[vestal pine]

you kill gunners

[slow stag]

do u need thy wrath be swift?

[spare talon]

Twbs is just good to have regardless of build

[slow stag]

this is my current marty build., i feel like id miss second wind a ton

[grizzled aspen]

I would switch to immolation grenades, tbh. The left side talents aren't super useful.

[spare talon]

Bleed for the emp

It's a marty build

[grizzled aspen]

Just don't take damage lol.

[spare talon]

It's literally a marty build

[grizzled aspen]

Uh huh. I know.

Don't plan on taking a huge amount of damage.

Let the inevitable chipping chip away at your hp.

[spare talon]

Which is what bleed for the emp is for

[grizzled aspen]

That'll save you 2 talent points and let you have a far better grenade.

[spare talon]

As it allows your ehp to be higher than all flak

[wraith cipher]

i like going stright down the middle

+3 wounds

[grizzled aspen]

Same. Thats what I'm doing with my current build.

[spare talon]

With his pathing he could also sacrifice the middle two and grab knives to the right and also have second wind

[grizzled aspen]

Immolation, chorus, marty.

[slow stag]

oh u take chorus

[wraith cipher]

its fun

[grizzled aspen]

Yeah but fotf isn't anything to sneeze at.

It's actually my preferred ability.

[wraith cipher]

also gets you out of a pinch very well

[grizzled aspen]

But for all intents and purposes chorus gets me out of more pickles on my martyr build than fotf ever thought of doing.

[vestal pine]

ew

[spare talon]

@slow stag something to consider

[wraith cipher]

im thinking i can drop a lot of the defenses in lieu of power

cause i dont take holy cause or the other

on that branch

[polar nexus]

hope you are above 9000 now

[hot jolt]

soon child

[polar nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/goku-fighting-rule-gif-25490893

[spare talon]

The store is empty
I have no active things I'm working on
That means
Cat time

[polar nexus]

https://youtu.be/BzqYsb849mw?si=s_s9iFuhHi7OVANU

[ripe quest]

Yee I was talking w/ them just recently. It's a global CD.

[vestal pine]

so it is global right

[hushed knoll]

Hello Exhillious

Hello Keet

[polar nexus]

ahh nice, following that Kuli rewrote that part of the guide

cool dude!

Hi Stan

[hushed knoll]

What’s poppin

[spare talon]

I honestly don't believe it
Cuz I see it take effect on myself basically any time I take hp damage after 10 seconds of not

Like every
Single
Time

[ripe quest]

Everyone shares the CD, so if one person procs it the effect goes on CD for 10s for everyone else.

[polar nexus]

Shield of Kool Aid

[hushed knoll]

[vestal pine]

so its one of those shits that if multiple people pick it it gets worse?

[polar nexus]

tbh i would not have thought fatshark capable of coding something like individual cd

[ripe quest]

I'm going to run some testing when I get around to it just so I can verify it myself, just as a double check. But for the time being I'm seeing results that assume a global cooldown.

[polar nexus]

and get it right for months

[ripe quest]

I have no idea. Not that it would change much, as with the previous assumption of mechanics there wouldn't be a benefit to running multiple SoC's unless you were building around being outside of coherency.

[polar nexus]

''If there are multiple Zealots who all run Shield of Contempt, the talent works as follows: The first Zealot to take health damage 'claims' the damage reduction buff. It lasts for 4s, during which it stacks multiplicatively with other Zealots' Shield of Contempt buffs, up to 97.44% damage reduction with four Zealots (1-0.4⁴=0.9744), only if the other Zealots also proc their talents while the duration of the first one is still active. Since the damage reduction buff can only be 'claimed' once per proc, it does not benefit the remaining Zealots who proc'ed their talents while the first Zealot still had the damage reduction buff.''

[spare talon]

While it's obviously not as good as individual cooldowns, I think it is still a great talent cuz realistically 10 seconds is not a long time in the grand scheme of the mission runtime

So it overall is fuckin amazing still at helping missions finish

[polar nexus]

it is a nice to have

clearly

[spare talon]

I certainly feel it

So then that just means that it's clearly still very good

[vestal pine]

people do sleep on it

so how do i use this

[spare talon]

"Erm you shouldn't be getting hit tho-"
60% DR RIGHT WHEN YOU NEED IT

BROTHER

[vestal pine]

well it doesnt help on getting wercked by a crusher which is most people are concerned

[polar nexus]

i would consider it if i run a double shotgun to benefit from the node before

[north sedge]

Don't think anyone's ever claimed it was bad

[polar nexus]

lazor said it was too good

[vestal pine]

i think we do

mostly cause uh

its not revanant

[spare talon]

It's literally "we're not losing this mission cuz I said so" the talent

[north sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/confused-no-nope-gif-13134027

[vestal pine]

lets see, loner is trash, the middle aura is trash, benediction is great and you can get revannat with it
(our logic)

have been using the middle one and i like it

i dont like point taxxing tho

[spare talon]

I don't think benevolence is good outside of maybe tox missions, grims, and the twins

But that has nothing to do with what I think of soc

[ripe quest]

If only there were other effects that Zealot had that would save them from a Crusher

[spare talon]

What if it was nearby on the talent tree so you could get both

That would be neat

[vestal pine]

if you talk about revanant people just use that and try to not get hit by crushers i think

least over here

[ripe quest]

bfte and until death.

[vestal pine]

the left tree?

uh

the stun nade tree is like the least popular over here tbh

[spare talon]

I used it for quite a long time actually

I like the nodes on that side

But I've grown to like the right more

The middle ones are the ones I don't care for

[zinc talon]

just when I thought mission rewards weren't ever something to look forward to

[spare talon]

I personally think immo nades are the weakest zealot grenade too tbh

[zinc talon]

agreed, if I even think about swapping off stun grenades it feels like I'm already cheating on them

[ivory marlin]

i love terraria

[sterile basalt]

Why tho

[vestal pine]

i like middle

its just not right

[zinc talon]

they do damage, but not to anything really dangerous and hardly any to the high health high armor enemies

they're also easily confused with a bomber grenade and can throw the team off their sync with each other if someone hesitates or dodges out and away in a tense moment

[sterile basalt]

They cook waves of ragers & help in hunting grounds, that’s good enough for me

[vestal pine]

also cooks maulers

and bulwarks

[vestal pine]

good for me

[sterile basalt]

Middle tree is not still better than left side imo

[vestal pine]

we rate mid better than left i think

[sterile basalt]

Anoint in blood buffed, 20% unyielding is hard to pass up

[vestal pine]

mostly cause nade

[zinc talon]

personally I like that a well timed stun grenade basically pushes pause on the entire mission in the right moment

[hushed knoll]

Damn cousin Ohio lookin good

[zinc talon]

and they're almost like free revives

[hushed knoll]

Okri

[zinc talon]

easily confused

[vestal pine]

they are way different tho

[spare dome]

top mid tree is pretty godly

right side to tknives is ridiculous however

[vestal pine]

yeah but top right is god incarnate

[sterile basalt]

Usually take throwing knife + middle 2 points

[zinc talon]

I'll prolly make a meta minmaxer's head explode saying this

[spare dome]

left tree is mostly sad and/or meganiche

[vestal pine]

idk about left its just mid

[spare dome]

you can do hilarious things with BFTE

[zinc talon]

but stun grenades, holy relic, corruption aura, and both movement/all attack speed talents makes you so nimble you almost have to want to get hit to get hit

[sterile basalt]

Disdain is like the only +dmg node in the entire game where it might as well not exist

[spare dome]

and you can combine that with health restore in top mid tree

to be VERY funny

[zinc talon]

you can push pause once a minute and heal the team doing so once a minute

you've got 3 on demand pause buttons for personal use

nobody takes any appreciable % of their health in purple damage

so med boxes work like the ideal

the whole team stays full strength and if that changes, you can heal them or stop the fight then and there

you control the entire pace of every encounter

[sterile basalt]

Purity aura is underrated I agree but the travel nodes to it aren’t that attractive

[polar nexus]

There's that meme about a zealot support build....

[sterile basalt]

Left aura is so stacked in travel nodes

[spare dome]

EB > SoC > HoF is pretty awesome tbh

[zinc talon]

plus movement speed is quietly the most powerful ability modifier anyone can have

[spare dome]

some guns are super awkward for EB but

the DB is incredible lmao

[sterile basalt]

The new shotgun is giga based for EB

U can’t ask for anything better than that

[spare dome]

its all i been doin lately

agrip revo

was kinda close

i dont ever feel bad dumping out the cylinder

but it overlapped too close with throwing knives

so it was kinda stinky

[sterile basalt]

Agripinaa revolver just doesn’t handle elites very well

[spare dome]

tknives are just too gud, and second wind is even better

[sterile basalt]

DB dumps ragers

[zinc talon]

I dunno if I'll ever mesh with throwing knives, I've tried and just can't make em work for me

[polar nexus]

Dance of death is soooo good with db

[spare talon]

Exactly this

[spare talon]

Yeah don't worry guys lemme use a non regenerating grenade on the horde

[polar nexus]

And you see the small circle you're like we gaming now

[spare talon]

That'll show em

[spare dome]

my current record is 73m

[zinc talon]

heh and bafflingly enough that I say that

cousin rockri is the most dangerous player in my missions

[sterile basalt]

Using a fire grenade vs rager/mauler groups is effective

[zinc talon]

fatshark put something out on tracking rrecently that said 4.2 million rocks have been thrown since inception

and I bet fully a third of them were thrown by me

[polar nexus]

non regenerative blitz are a no no tbh

unless it is the mega bomba

[spare talon]

This is exactly the reason

[south folio]

1. kite deathballs into fire puddle
2. profit

[spare talon]

The main thing is
The entire group isn't going to be aggroed on you unless you're the last alive
Or fucked up so incredibly bad by running around the entire section without killing a single thing

[south folio]

too bad i don't like any of the nodes above immo besides anoint which is one of the first nodes I give up when point-starved cuz i just use melee most times

[spare talon]

I've already said my part on purge the unclean

[sterile basalt]

That sounds more niche than getting a group to walk into fire tbh

[south folio]

on the other hand, the team usually sticks together during bad scenarios

and maps in this game are not particularly open

[spare talon]

It's just damage bonuses against things you don't really need it for on most builds

[sterile basalt]

Idk, zealot usually doesn’t kill maulers & ragers that fast with melee alone

[spare talon]

I'm sure that 20% infested is helping you one shot dogs harder than ever before with your sword

[spare dome]

fire nades just do what the flamer does, its not about killing trash or w/e its about the trash dying so you can focus the other shit

[polar nexus]

you take it for bosses tho

[spare talon]

I'm talking about this btw

[sterile basalt]

Nobody takes purge the unclean for infested dmg

[spare dome]

well, i do for some weps

[spare talon]

But it's also like
They stop being an issue once you're good enough

[polar nexus]

it's about killing them faster

[spare talon]

But you could also take other nodes to kill EVERYTHING faster

Plus you literally have a whole team with you

[spare dome]

you can very much do both

[polar nexus]

depending on the build you may not have that

[sterile basalt]

What build doesn’t get to take both

[spare talon]

Even mid as fuck damnation players can fucking explode monstrosities

[spare dome]

this is not some super out of the way node

[spare talon]

By just sheer combined attacking

Like I'd rather have something to keep me afloat easier for the entire 30 minutes rather than 20% more damage against a thing that's alive for 30 seconds

[polar nexus]

i need to top boss dmg to assert domination with my boltgun

[vestal pine]

if you have the whole team on you immo gets better

[serene bridge]

Quick question, best perks for cadia mk 4 chainsword? Should I just carapace flak it?

[spare talon]

I don't have that node on my knife build
I consistently rip the boss a new one in seconds

[zinc talon]

I would say unyielding instead of carapace myself

[spare talon]

And the scoreboard proves it lmak

[polar nexus]

flak maniac on chword i would say

[polar nexus]

i mean yeah with a knife

[spare talon]

Crit chance crit damage on chainsword
Trust

[sterile basalt]

If u have high shredder, go for carapace

[polar nexus]

you have so many ways to milk dm

[zinc talon]

but keet's right, take it into the grinder before you mod it and see if it oneshots ragers and chargers

if it doesn't maniac is the better choice

but it should

[spare talon]

Same with dclaw

[serene bridge]

Sav sweep 4 shred 4 10% weakspot 15% block effic

[zinc talon]

and shred if you go this route

[serene bridge]

Ah shred stat rip that’s one of the dumps

[spare talon]

Tho that was more just very easy "ok I'll sit here you guys kill the boss"

[ornate bone]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-lurking-gif-22179921

[spare talon]

I was joking

[zinc talon]

yeah uh

same

[spare talon]

[zinc talon]

https://tenor.com/view/darktide-ogryn-run-naked-funny-gif-18082679885906165021

[sterile basalt]

Swap both perks

Carapace + flak prob

[spare talon]

These perks better be a troll

[sterile basalt]

Carapace gives u 1 rev heavy FotF kill crusher on weakspot

[zinc talon]

I like my crit build chainswords

[sterile basalt]

But u need high shredder stat

[zinc talon]

but with the change to CDR idk how viable it still is

been playing okri pretty exclusively since new weapons

[sterile basalt]

Still very strong

[spare talon]

It's more that the crit perks don't do nearly enough to justify being in your perk slot

[serene bridge]

Get phone imaged nerds

[south folio]

i die

[polar nexus]

keep blessings

[acoustic dune]

holy fuck

[zinc talon]

she's a beaut

second or third last mk 4 you'll use

[acoustic dune]

a natural beauty i must say

[spare talon]

Oh I thought you were saying what you put on ot

No that's fuckin great just change perks

[serene bridge]

Bet

[zinc talon]

what's the damage increase in the table from body to weak spot

[acoustic dune]

nah jsut jeep her as she is

[zinc talon]

wasn't the mk4 tweaked to hit weakspots more often

[south folio]

not very much for chords

[final forge]

anyone know if vet has cdr in its build anywhere?

[polar nexus]

ohh yeah

[serene bridge]

214-352

[acoustic dune]

cdr?

[final forge]

cooldown reduction

[polar nexus]

just in the middle

[zinc talon]

yeah you'd only get 10% of that damage increase, so 15? or so?

[acoustic dune]

ah

[polar nexus]

below vox

[sterile basalt]

U might want carapace + elite if u want crusher 1 rev kill

[spare talon]

Yeah it's really fuckin bad

[acoustic dune]

need more circle

[final forge]

just saw it thx, was thinking its bout to to use the josho special and do some penances

[polar nexus]

you're going to use lube???

[final forge]

idk what meme that is lol

[acoustic dune]

who need lube anyway

[spare talon]

Fixed it for you

[acoustic dune]

when i have a sonaritas right there

[vestal pine]

recommend a

evi build

[zinc talon]

maels be wilin

[maiden path]

its weird how much tacticool shit can be linked back to call of duty ghosts

night vision and skull balaclavas

[spare talon]

https://tenor.com/view/jake-gyllenhaal-lou-bloom-mad-mirror-nightcrawler-gif-17711394

[sterile basalt]

This is why Reddit is not worth paying attention to lol

[crisp furnace]

Most players aren’t worth paying attention to in general

[sterile basalt]

“Lightning psyker for horde clearing”

[maiden path]

i dont think its fair to hate on reddit casuals for taking easily foreseeable opinions on shit

[sterile basalt]

Besides EP smite idk what that could mean

[grave robin]

i cant really tell the difference between the damage of the two daggers. is one "better" than the other overall?

[sterile basalt]

Mk6 is better than mk3 overall
Better single target dps (same breakpoints, higher atk speed)
Better horde clear (cleave heavy atks)

[maiden path]

should I get hunt showdown or tarkov

[sterile basalt]

Mk3 moveset is more straightforward tho, mk6 is a lot more complex

[maiden path]

tarkov got singeplayer mod

[grave robin]

ok so it looks like horde combo is 2 heavy, 2 light, repeat - what's the single target combo? just spam heavy? or punch - heavy, repeat?

[spare talon]

Mk3 has slightly higher damage at the cost of no multitarget

[spare talon]

Or push attack

[grave robin]

multitarget is a pretty big deal in a horde game, lol

can't see how meta zealots would prefer slightly more damage over multi

[spare talon]

Hence why I use the mk6 on zealot

[sterile basalt]

Horde combo is H1 > H2 > block cancel, repeat

[grave robin]

push attack looks like single target

oh right i forgot about block canceling

[sterile basalt]

Single target has 2 variations

[grave robin]

ive never really been a fan of block canceling

[sterile basalt]

If you want a low risk option, that’s heavy > special > light, repeat

[grave robin]

seems like it's all too easy for an enemy to get a hit in during that block cancel downtime

[sterile basalt]

The higher risk option has much higher dps and it’s heavy (any) into push atk spam

[glacial stratus]

thank you sire Melk, I guess?

[hushed agate]

Oh my goodness gracious

[sterile basalt]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/984525651904176209/1243454115519004722/CB6_3402dps.mp4?ex=668ae1a3&is=66899023&hm=14bee1df310e625c40e7429e644d162d9728b7a7497d3f2621201c1593aea3e1&

[grave robin]

oh, interesting (trying it out in the meat grinder rn)

[glacial stratus]

isnt it almost a god roll?

[sterile basalt]

Swap both perks, elite + maniac

[hushed agate]

Grab that shit immediately

[merry flume]

I do

[glacial stratus]

But why has Melk decided to bless me with this sword?

[hushed agate]

He mustve put up the wrong one by accident

[grave robin]

hear me out; what if i just spam heavy

seems like less work

[sterile basalt]

Slower dps

[grave robin]

[sterile basalt]

You’re looking at smth like 2300dps

Compared to 3000+

[hushed knoll]

WAIT I GET IT!!!! You want to buff the weapons.

I always thought you meant buff like muscular

[zinc talon]

the rockwell raised this from hot take to codified law

[hushed agate]

Yeah

[north sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/disappointed-wet-hot-american-summer-gif-23679565

[hushed agate]

The idea of a roided up gun though is cool

[grave robin]

what on earth is the point of all this backstab stuff if you wanna be hitting weakspots anyways

[merry flume]

my melk is full of tac axes and d claws

[grave robin]

just supplemental bonuses for the shroud damage?

[spare talon]

I like this video cuz it shows what you can do when they're swinging, and that uncanny isn't mandatory with enough buffs
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046913589614747719/1257213762939650132/Darktide_2024.07.01-00.58.mp4?ex=668ad74e&is=668985ce&hm=25ba5dbf3b3e4fdf883a02f1d6b04415b82b3bdf34a5d9627d8ecbf26704aa3d&

[hushed agate]

Doesnt back stab just mean from behind?

[grave robin]

yeah but i feel it's harder to hit weakspots from behind on almost every enemy

or at least certain enemies

[merry flume]

mutants

[hushed agate]

Its really hard on ogryns but not too bad on other enemies

And mutants yeah

[merry flume]

every ogryn enemy

[zinc talon]

today has been a suspiciously great day for gear pickups

[merry flume]

u gotta aim much higher than you expect to

[grave robin]

bosses excluding nurgle beast

[merry flume]

but you can get it

[spare talon]

Yeah backstab is honestly just good for elite one shots

[grave robin]

trying to hit a weakspot on a plague ogryn from behind like seeing a toddler trying to reach a shelf at a store

[spare talon]

Other than that I wouldn't pay any mind to it

[merry flume]

jumping helps unironically

[sterile basalt]

For zealot uncanny is not 100% necessary if you have enough crit chance

[zinc talon]

https://tenor.com/view/short-fight-tall-gif-21229601

[grave robin]

🔪

[sterile basalt]

Riposte + precog is a good substitute

[merry flume]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1169184933869256794/1254046310072582155/dancingcat.gif

me dodging crusher

[grave robin]

im just looking at meta zealot builds rn cuz i wanna get penances done

[merry flume]

what meta

[zinc talon]

suddenly, trapper net through all five crushers you're dodging perfectly

[acoustic dune]

god some penance is such a long grind

[grave robin]

idk shroudfield stabby shit

[spare talon]

It ends up preforming almost as good as uncanny against carapace, but better in most other situations

[grave robin]

stun 1500 enemies with flashbangs is only a quarter of the way done

[sterile basalt]

On zealot, yea

[acoustic dune]

finding a good sniper and stunning bombing it

that one is no fun

[grave robin]

i think i got that one ages ago

[spare talon]

Yes that's true
I wouldn't skip uncanny on any other class

[zinc talon]

you can really rack up some numbers if you run a less-dangerous mission and ask the group if you can have all the grenade pickups for the penance

[grave robin]

like even before hitting level 30

[zinc talon]

most people are very conducive to it

[merry flume]

riposte / precog feels good when you feel it working

but most of the time it never detects my dodge

[zinc talon]

then just hit every horde with one

[merry flume]

is it because i have slide and dodge on the same key?

[acoustic dune]

what da fuck

[spare talon]

Hell yea it does

[zinc talon]

yeah don't do that, and also take off dodge + jump from spacebar

[sterile basalt]

U need to dodge through attacks to activate

[merry flume]

i have crouch and dodge on the same key lmao

[zinc talon]

set spacebar to dodge only, left alt to jump only since it's right there under your thumb

and slide with crouch while you're sprinting

[acoustic dune]

me with my thunder hammer cracking his head in one go

[zinc talon]

that'll all but eliminate missing the action you were going for

[merry flume]

lmao ur telling me ive been playing the game wrong this whole time

i remember when having both on the same key was ideal

[zinc talon]

every time you jumped by accident in the thick of combat, you didn't have to

I was angry too

[tacit bone]

You can use talent sprint count as dodge and it can proc all the time

[spare talon]

Yeah but I personally can't stand the thammer in any other situation

[grave robin]

this sounds really broken

im assuming you can still get hit through it

[zinc talon]

reject hamre

TRANSCEND to Crushre

[spare talon]

If the crusher got thrust
It's be so over

[merry flume]

h1 crusher with full thrust stack

[tacit bone]

Crusher just need 1 more damage blessing and it will be S tier weapon

[north sedge]

doesnt need it

people just want flavor text, crusher is great as is

[tacit bone]

Skullcrusher just useful with mob only, normal elite

[grave robin]

ughh i cant decide what blessing combo i want on a knife

[north sedge]

true it only works on 99% of the enemies

[spare talon]

LET ME DREAM

[north sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/lord-of-the-rings-no-nope-nah-never-gif-16208499

[zinc talon]

it's worth mentioning the crusher lays skullcrusher and thunderstrike if that's your thing on every single enemy in its blast radius now, just like the paul

it may not be as big, but a H1 detonation will immediately put you at 40% more damage with everything it laid stacks on now stumbling back

and ripe for sweeps or another nuke

[spare talon]

But thunderstrike is a debuff
Which is arguably not as powerful as a buff
Which the other two are

[zinc talon]

I just meant in a procedural sense

anything inside the radius gets those stacks on detonation

with skullcrusher, you're now 40% up and everything you just laid stacks on is staggering backwards for your next attack or for the rest of the team to hit

push also lays stacks so push+attack puts you at the full 8

as does everything you hit with the actual blast

so your next hit is almost double damage, every time or almost

[north sedge]

40?

[zinc talon]

it does more work than you might think at first

at tier 4 skullcrusher lays 4 stacks of +10damage on its target

and that's every target hit, cleave sweep or detonation

[north sedge]

it lies to you

[zinc talon]

lower tiers just lay fewer stacks, and all tiers lay up to 8 max

it's just a question of how many hits to get there

the only caveat is the enemy has to be stagger-ING to proc the extra damage

once they get back up on their feet, they have to be knocked over jostled into any stagger animation again for subsequent hits to benefit

but with the detonation, you send everything in the blast radius either back a step or onto its ass, crushers and maulers aside

so the game becomes, how do I kill this thing before it finds its feet again

[acoustic dune]

agreed the windup speed penalty make me not use ut

[zinc talon]

and with 80% more damage per swing, that's a fun game to play

don't sleep on the push attack either, it's the strongest single swing the weapon has

and cleaves, and sends flying

so push, push attack, they're staggered, and have 8 stacks from those two things you just did

you just have to kill em before they get up

[wintry ore]

how important is cloud radius on Flamer? got 80 on almost everything else but 56% cloud

[zinc talon]

it affects both the size of the jet stream on your screen and how far the flame will go before petering out

burn is the most important stat hands down

[hushed knoll]

Hi Doughthony

[grave robin]

this "meta guide" guy seems pretty biased towards the mk3 dagger

sorry for tiny text, if i wrote it out it'd probably be huge

[modern lintel]

Still a mk6 stan till i die

[grave robin]

do you find that you have truoble headshotting with it

[modern lintel]

Not at all

[north sedge]

if the guide says meta, it aint

[grave robin]

but it has lots of updoots

[modern lintel]

And this is while using a controller if that adds anything

But i mainly play knife on vet over zealot tbh

[vestal pine]

mk6 has less damage on those cleaving heavys so

[spare talon]

Sorry Mr reddit, 700 damage against 3 targets is still better damage output vs 850 against 1 target

[ripe quest]

https://tenor.com/view/what-the-dog-doin-dobby-rather-mundane-when-i-see-the-dog-holding-back-gif-21970815

[grave robin]

[grave robin]

[grave robin]

ok is it actually doing full heavy damage to 3 targets tho, or is the cleave damage lowered

[spare talon]

Waaaaah
Waaaaaaaaaaah

[spare talon]

I'm just being a silly guy

[grave robin]

it's a genuine question

[spare talon]

The overall damage output against groups will still be higher

[ripe quest]

Consider the following: Ass finesse falloff.
I rest my case.

[grave robin]

true

this guide author sounds like a pussy anyways

[hushed knoll]

Is this Aragorn

[grave robin]

oh no a horde!! run away!!!

average mk3 user

[spare talon]

With shroudfield I can kill 2 elites in 1 swing

[maiden path]

u aint no rat brother

https://tenor.com/view/rat-attack-rat-attack-have-at-thee-gif-11648161592664583090

[grave robin]

im a human

[spare talon]

And that's very often cuz of crit cdr

[maiden path]

the rats will rule the world

[blissful tendon]

can i fix this or is this itemization rework copeage

[spare talon]

Yknow what's crazy doe

[misty nova]

After all?

[spare talon]

He can't even taste the rat poison

[maiden path]

blessed are the rats, for they will inherit the earth.

[maiden path]

https://tenor.com/view/rat-ratburping-rataffirmation-affirmation-ratburp-gif-9020380063868998019

[hushed knoll]

[spare dome]

the fuck are these memes

[modern lintel]

90% reduced threat stealth vet moment

[vestal pine]

does like 12% less i think

[spare talon]

Crit damage to flak
Executor to uncanny
And you have a bleed knife that isn't ass

[maiden path]

whens the itemization update coming out again?

[vestal pine]

in the year 40000

[modern lintel]

Also i never realized it till last night but vets stealth also full regens toughness

[maiden path]

true

getting into my futarama ice machine

maybe ill just buy modern warfare 2

[vestal pine]

i find vet stelf better than zealot stelf most of the time

[maiden path]

maybe ill just play tf2 again

[vestal pine]

go play helldivers the amount of bots there🤡

idk tbh havent heard from them

[maiden path]

aoooough

its boring!!

[ripe quest]

which would only be enabled w/ Shroudfield + buffs up I imagine considering how low the 2nd target is. Mk III's heavies have a bigger finesse and scale better w/ bonuses + just hit a bit harder.

[vestal pine]

it has what

[modern lintel]

Yea but it audibly stimks

[ripe quest]

It has a bigger finesse

[modern lintel]

Nu uh

[maiden path]

what the fuck

huh

the big words cant be emojid'.........

polite society did this

[spare talon]

Wait is that true

[maiden path]

WHAT

[spare talon]

[vestal pine]

no

[ripe quest]

when you hit heads and/or critical hits the internal systems that are setup to reward you for these hits kicks in, and it has decided that the Mk III scales better with this system in mind while the Mk VI needs to use the H3

[spare talon]

Yeah that's true

[maiden path]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1258624337334767737/are_fallen_angle.gif

[spare talon]

You can't big the emojis

[maiden path]

fuck it im playing titanfall 2

[vestal pine]

h3 has same scaling then?

[maiden path]

geeked up playing tf2 all day

[ripe quest]

He's trying to put a reaction on my message but I have him blocked so he can't

[grave robin]

what do you dagger zealots like to wield as your gun?

im not a big fan of the shredder

[vestal pine]

mean !

[maiden path]

like jesus of fucking nazareth

[spare talon]

The mk6 has 2.5x finesse at 80%
Mk3 has 3x
Both for heavy attqcks

[vestal pine]

on h3?

[spare talon]

In the fucking stats

[maiden path]

me af

[spare talon]

Of the weapon

[ripe quest]

I need a 2FA system in place to view Beb Beb's spewage

[grave robin]

no.

[maiden path]

yes

im gonna start gaming in a full suit of gothic armor

[ripe quest]

the listed amount for the Mk VI is for its H1 and H2, the listed amount for the Mk III applies to its H1 and H2 and the VI's H3

[vestal pine]

thrre we go

dont ever trust fatshank's listings

[median crow]

god I love when people pick up grims in auric hi int

despite being asked not to

[ripe quest]

Beb you are nowhere near worthy enough to try and represent yourself as Jesus

[maiden path]

imagine trying not to laugh in the siege tower and your homie looks at you like this

[maiden path]

my point proven

[vestal pine]

jebus

[maiden path]

like jesus of nazareth

[median crow]

"Hey I'm trying to work on a penance that requires not dying" gotcha, let me grab the grimoire...

[grave robin]

first one i crafted. i know it's not BiS but it'll serve me well enough i think?

sorry for posting over the convo

[maiden path]

the lesser introspective show themselves daily like moles peeking their head out of their dirt caverns

[grave robin]

what the hell are you babbling about

[maiden path]

https://tenor.com/view/sigma-alpha-wolf-alpha-wolf-the-weak-should-quiver-gif-17759401881362908244

[modern lintel]

Shouldve turned goblin mode on

[median crow]

they aggroed a DH less than 30s after the grim pickup (right at the start of the mission ofc) during a horde

I just alt f4'd, ill take the startover now

[vestal pine]

thr new map?

[median crow]

archivum sycorax lol

[vestal pine]

if he didnt immediately alt-f4'd himself least its "servicable"

[maiden path]

penances that rely on others playing around you only, fucking suck

[vestal pine]

cause last tiem i had a DH in my face

[median crow]

I dont mind carrying groups it's fun, it's why I like to play og so I can save shit but

I dont enjoy grims

[vestal pine]

guy idiotically walks up to DH waking it up while im on the other side of the map

immediately disconnects after he knows hes fucked up

and the DH aggro's onto me

[median crow]

especially x10 when they are like 5 meters into the level and you have that shit corroding your HP the whole run

[vestal pine]

meanwhile im doing dancing with couple bulwarks

[median crow]

they just teleport then right

[vestal pine]

yes

in front of you

[maiden path]

fatsharks on vacation untill august right

[vestal pine]

thats what the note scribbles say

[maiden path]

jesus

[median crow]

DH's are not scary to me if I'm on my Zealot main. In fact I do a bit of a >:) when I see one get woken up

Connecting crucius to the dome for that one shot is addictive

[vestal pine]

ì ðoʻn̈ț ťřůṣ̌ţ ṭĥèm þĥœ

[vestal pine]

if you have a thammer its great

[maiden path]

im gonna go learn swedish to go work a fatshark

release 1 map after 3 months of nothing and pat ourselves on the back

[north sedge]

We've been over this

[vestal pine]

p sure in swede the vac is mandatory

[maiden path]

when ur country looks like sweden i can understand it

shit looks like narnia

by the time fatshark gets done with darktide I think the countrys gonna be underwater

[acoustic dune]

the new atlantic 2.0?

[maiden path]

its gonna be a new zealand type thing

gigantic landmass but 90% of it is underwater

the only remaining bit of land will be fatshark hq

[dark zealot]

I understand now I think, missions have a unique drop chance for rewards so say 2% for a rare mod however that mod could also be a monster drop in other missions

[spare talon]

thanks cat

[spare talon]

if its a weapon mod, reminder that that mod could exist for multiple ammo types, from different sources

also hardmode doubles the chance of the rare stuff from the missions

and it isnt THAT much harder than the things youll be facing at the end of the campaign

[median steeple]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/248972334327791616/1259159840706789416/convert.gif?ex=668aab7c&is=668959fc&hm=51373ecd2e138c747b24edaa2997f009e5366dca273ebe9f34f92e5033130394&

[spare talon]

that ends around lvl 92

and hardmode just has everything on every map be lvl 100

[maiden path]

i cant wait for space marine 2

game looks so cool

[median steeple]

two months yippie !

[hushed knoll]

I don’t remember

[maiden path]

the only worry i have is that the executions are gonna be too samey like the first game

[spare talon]

plus @dark zealot im gonna go record something
and youre going to shit your pants immediately

[maiden path]

i hope it has a good horde mode

[median steeple]

WWZ horde was pretty good for the most part

[maiden path]

are they basing it off dat game

that game looks cool

never played it doe

[median steeple]

the developers of space marine 2 are the people who made WWZ

[maiden path]

that game had a really cool character design I liked

oh fuck

[red mesa]

I haven't used thunderhammer in a while.
is the ironhelm the better choice now?

[maiden path]

this guy

ok wwz just has really cool character designs regardless

wtf

[modern lintel]

Rn im getting a new zealot up to lvl 20 to try and grind the cleave blessing for the double barrel

[dark zealot]

oh no

[obsidian quail]

better to just check the weapon shop rotations

you can see weapons there with only t1 or t2 blessings anyway

[median steeple]

you want to be lvl 15 for manstopper

iirc

[spare talon]

look at all these drops on hardmode

[modern lintel]

Problem is you only get the double barrel at lvl 20

[median steeple]

lame

[maiden path]

holy shit the shooting is so unimpactful

its like san andreas shooting

[obsidian quail]

korean clone of warframe?

[spare talon]

yeah

[obsidian quail]

will asians at least try to make something new

[spare talon]

it has enough unique stuff in it to still make it be worth playing

[dark zealot]

🐸

[maiden path]

warframe revealed 1999 way too early

[obsidian quail]

is it fun?

[spare talon]

despite both being looter shooters, warframe and destiny function quite differently

[maiden path]

all i wanna do is play warframe 1999 now i gotta wait till november 2 do it

[spare talon]

this seems to be a mesh of both

weapon modding like warframe, but the drops are like destiny

[dark zealot]

its more like borderlands but warframe

[spare talon]

i guess yeah, ive not played too much borderlands

but it does have some interesting stuff

[dark zealot]

like you dont have maps that are generated each mission but a zone you do missions in and a central hub area you return to

[obsidian quail]

like in warframe?

[spare talon]

yeah
the areas are like patrol areas in destiny

[obsidian quail]

is the game fun? nobody wants to answer

[dark zealot]

i have the 4th cooking and a 5th waiting to be built after

[maiden path]

i think dat speaks for itself

ehhee

jk

[dark zealot]

I mean we are going back to it everyday so yeah?

[spare talon]

im having fun honestly
but its also like
it literally is copying 2 things i already like so

that was bound to happen

[dark zealot]

just our fun might not be your fun

[spare talon]

its worth giving it a shot if you enjoyed destiny OR warframe, or both

[frozen crystal]

I will say I played it for 2-3 hours. It is mind numbingly easy. Literally, you kill everything in a couple of shots and can’t really die. So if you want any challenge up front, you won’t get it there

[obsidian quail]

id play it if it didnt contain big titties asses anime cuties and all

[maiden path]

so real

[dark zealot]

I will say it is a little trol having to grind all the unique weapons 5 times

[spare talon]

yummy loot drops

[dark zealot]

yeah at least warframe is more tasteful with the booty than blatant gooner bait

[median steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/hungry-starving-eat-kirby-gif-4383021

[obsidian quail]

asses in warframe are 10 times more sexy that any anime shit ive seen in years

[dark zealot]

I would show the ultimate bunny skin but its too skimpy to post here, slaanesh will get us

[obsidian quail]

oh ffs...

[spare talon]

and the devs own the fuck out of it in their devstreams

cough cough ember heirloom reveal cough cough

[dark zealot]

you can look it up yourself

[obsidian quail]

good devs, too bad the game is bloated with so much stuff that i just dont want to return to it

[spare talon]

dude i started in 2022 about a month before tenno con

went to tennocon in person the next year

am mr 33 rn

[dark zealot]

no wonder your so good at darktide, you have already survived taint

[spare talon]

what

[drifting wolf]

engineer gaming

[dark zealot]

nevermind

[hard nexus]

how is that game

i was thinking about getting into it

[spare talon]

i dont get the joke

[spare talon]

do you like destiny or warframe

[dark zealot]

gamers/nerds/weebs at a convention

[maiden path]

what the fuck

[obsidian quail]

oh i remember why i abandoned the game, my fellow russian government did a ip ban wave, and somehow it got the game's ips, and i couldnt make parties in it, therefore i couldnt trade with anyone

[maiden path]

ive played since 2014 off and on