#zealot-class

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ember yew
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more goals for people

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instead for playing frikkin casino

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it seems you are still playing casino

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but with just base stats + you can adjust them a bit

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which makes it more bearable

patent patrol
ember yew
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Brutal Momentum 5 times

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for 5 different rashads

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that's what i meam

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so you go and play casino with base stats on rashad

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you just level your weapon mastery as a whole

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welp according to the current interaction, who knows if they will change it later

solemn holly
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finally

red mesa
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losing hab dreko malestrom on the bridge part after the final event running to the exit is the saddest thing ever

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game overwhelmed us with a huge elite + rager spawn burgled etc

ember yew
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but next time just rush solo in the same situation

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i have like 10+ solo Hab Dreyko finished runs

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when it was better to just finish the game instead of trying to save people

red mesa
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came down to final guy alive, knife zealot

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he went for revive instead of just running for end

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and got pounced by a burgled dog

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sad

ember yew
royal vortex
ember yew
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lube it up

royal vortex
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my vet is named lubed and willing

spare talon
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oh yea

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the amount of fucking people in the first descendant with ultimate descendants makes me lose hope for the gaming industry

spare talon
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in warframe terms
prime warframes

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but its literally week one

maiden path
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is it hard 2 get

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why are u losing hope

spare talon
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so you basically have to buy them

maiden path
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oh

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gaay

spare talon
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and this is nexon

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they cost 100 dollars

frosty herald
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you buy a sexy skin

ember yew
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just this time it's not a Warframe, the longevity of this game is questionable

maiden path
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do they make the boobies big

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!!!

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awooga

frosty herald
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just skimpy

spare talon
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dude the character you get from the tutorial on how to craft things

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literally looks like this

maiden path
spare talon
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sorry amd is having a fucking stroke

maiden path
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they're trying 2 stop u

spare talon
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if youre thinking with your dick
why would you need to pay with it too

maiden path
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get those damn cheeks outta my face

spare talon
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when they give you this right out the gate

ember yew
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🍆

spare talon
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sorry i couldnt hear you over the sounds of these two things making nexon millions of dollars

ember yew
frosty herald
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among us

ember yew
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so far the numbers are stable

spare talon
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its only week 1

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and i only jsut finished the campaign today

ember yew
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we'l see how it goes with repeatable content

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and what kind of limitations did they pulled

frosty herald
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i heard vin beat a pret fucked raid boss

ember yew
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daily/weekly

spare talon
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there were genuinely some difficult fights, and im certain people are still stuck on them

frosty herald
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the bride or some stuff

spare talon
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this one and the next two are actually fucked levels of difficulty for bosses that block your campaign progress

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like actually get your build and mods in check, focus up, and have comms for your team

nimble fiber
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devourer was fucked

frosty herald
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Bro put a great unclean one in the game and thought we wouldnt notice

spare talon
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my brother is telling me that the final one on this screen, hanged man (who is post campaign)

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is actually fucking impossbile with random matchmades

nimble fiber
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great

spare talon
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as it has an actual wipe mechanic beyond the dps check timer of 10 minutes

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no option for solo as the mechanic requires 2 people

obsidian prairie
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I LOVE dps checks as a design

frosty herald
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At around the 9 min mark argus got her shield to half

obsidian prairie
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So creative

spare talon
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its more just "beat the fight in 10 minutes"

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devourer is an actual dps check

nimble fiber
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still gotta beat pyro smh

spare talon
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cuz his enrage thing spawns 3 things that heal him

nimble fiber
spare talon
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and if you dont instagib them, he could heal to full in like 20-30 seconds

spare talon
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so you have to not only break those fast
but also be able to deal with the health he healed in spite of the timer

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anyway

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im gonna go carry a group of matchmades through dead bride in 30 seconds with my lvl 100 144k dps weapons

royal vortex
maiden path
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@spare talon do u have this

spare talon
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yea

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from leveling years and years ago

maiden path
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i mus ask..

obsidian prairie
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Why does the grenade launcher have a bipod

maiden path
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are u one handing ur fucking grenade launchers

obsidian prairie
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Not talking about the foregrip

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The little leggy things by the barrel

maiden path
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its called accuracy..

obsidian prairie
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Also why is there a laser, grenades arc

maiden path
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what

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its called

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accuracy

spare talon
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but the hat is part of the cloak

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not the helmet

maiden path
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that torso isnt!!

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i only care about da toros..

spare talon
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and then look up the source

maiden path
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i must become him

spare talon
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cuz i wont know every armor in the game and where its from

maiden path
spare talon
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just by appearance

maiden path
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dont feel like typing this out

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u aint no damn fashionnesta..

spare talon
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oh thats old gambit armor i think
that or season of the hunt armor

maiden path
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oaugh it sdnever been more over

maiden path
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for now

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han solo hunter

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untill I can get a poncho

steep flame
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just got squadwiped by a crusher and mauler patrol on eachother with like 2 dogs mixed in

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thank you director

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also did they buff the bolter?

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cuz it feels nicer now

obsidian prairie
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Yes

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Ammo

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100 rounds base + magazine

steep flame
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thats prolly it

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also when are they taking quick throw off the throwing knives

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not cuz its overpowered or anything, i just want to be able to inspect the knives

obsidian prairie
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Hold throw to inspect or hold a throw would be neat

steep flame
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make it an option in the settings menu or something

steep flame
spare talon
steep flame
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i can just take a regular bath after

glacial stratus
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What is the best* recon lasgun?

solemn holly
obsidian prairie
steep flame
gray ice
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Post invocation of death nerf reddit is now filled with crying zealot mains

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I just wanted more memes

gray ice
solemn holly
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basically

gray ice
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Comments are 90% whining saying FS hates fun and why balance a pve game

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The usual non argument

vestal pine
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ah yes

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a single talent that actually performed better than like

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2 stagger talents

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isnt busted

ember yew
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what's dis

vestal pine
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i can vote for 5% being like, shit but idk it was pretty overpowered for one can use it

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i assume the nerf was for shockmauls getting away

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whats a bruiser

gray ice
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Since that's what the threads about

ember yew
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yeah, it was named bruiser

vestal pine
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idk

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its not that good

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dont tell how psyker gets an upgrade

vestal pine
gray ice
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I mean you still scream it pretty often, just less

vestal pine
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depending on what you use tbh

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evi kinda ded is sad for cdr, but oh well

gray ice
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I rarely ever use crit cdr and when I did it was with dclaw or crusher or the like

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So not much has changed as far I'm concerned kek

vestal pine
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mk15 evi screaming every second was peak funny and people are just hating the fact that you cant get a full charge within 2 seconds tbh

gray ice
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It's no longer a brain-dead free uptime talent so shrug

vestal pine
gray ice
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Loool

obsidian prairie
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I do like that you have to think about fast attacks for CDR versus being effective for the horde now

gray ice
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I mean it's changed to a talent that you consider in any capacity

ember yew
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fast attacks even more effective against hordes tho

obsidian prairie
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Knife

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Well specifically mk6

gray ice
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It's per swing with a pretty low icd

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I'm still eatin on dclaw

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I'd probs still take on mk2 evis tbh

obsidian prairie
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I would like a Dc4 but game has decided that I get efficiency and stagger/cleave blessings only

gray ice
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It took me a while before I got mine

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It's still not technically what I want either, but you learn to settle

obsidian prairie
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I have shred ripped previously so I only really need one good perk and rampage

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Or wrath

gray ice
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I can live with unarmoured as much as I'd have liked maniac

obsidian prairie
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I don’t know what you take for crit dclaw

gray ice
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Savage sweep/rampage is a good general purpose

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To juice crit shred/rampage

vestal pine
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marty cdr shoulx change for fucks sake

gray ice
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Marty cdr?

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The on dmg taken one?

ember yew
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should'be changed to toughness damage

gray ice
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Should be canned and replaced with a new talent

ember yew
gray ice
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I don't even want it reworked

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For fear they'll just fuck it up further

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I'd like a node that gives 5 toughness per missing wound there

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To make up for not being able to take tough curios if you're going all in

brave knoll
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heyo, if you had to use one which one would it be? :V

obsidian prairie
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The 348

gray ice
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^

obsidian prairie
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Bad finesse breaks a knife

brave knoll
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Yea, I'm kinda tilted from these rolls, can't wait for the crafting rework

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At the same time I just want a knife at this point so cba rolling more :D

gray ice
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I spent 5 Mil ordos the other day coming back

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I get it

brave knoll
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brgh

gray ice
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Not a damn thing worth mentioning

brave knoll
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Any way to salvage this xddd

obsidian prairie
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Nope

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Ultrabricked

gray ice
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Bolt pistol inheriting the same fucked up base characteristics as the base bolter is funny to me

brave knoll
gray ice
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We hope you enjoyed your stay at hadron's brick oven pizzeria

vestal pine
brave knoll
vestal pine
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tbh i much prefer mk3 haymaker cause i can spam PA and thats the most optimal heavys you get

hushed agate
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I always thought it was some weird pyramid face thing with fire in its mouth

gray ice
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Evans pfp to me has always just been a weird orange splotch

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Unless a pfp is really noticeable it's kinda just background noise at this point

ember yew
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i remember one guy mistaking it with Alucard (Hellsing) which is relatively close from this angle

gray ice
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I could see that

spare talon
vestal pine
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lacerate!!!!!

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tbh even if i say about it i wouldnt recommend anything below 4

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it just doesnt make the cut

brave knoll
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Crafting rework can't come fast enough honestly

slow stag
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What are the best blessings for knife now?

royal vortex
calm salmon
tropic pelican
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why did he do that

glacial stratus
grizzled aspen
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Blessings and perks for knife?

vocal pulsar
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uncanny strike is a must

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everything else? idk. i dont use knife

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but uncanny strike is a must have

slow stag
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how about the mk15 heavy evisc

frosty herald
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Owlcat did an amazing job on rogue trader's ost

vestal pine
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why cant i oneshot

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the torso of maulers with DB

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do i need flak

slow stag
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dam so close

glacial stratus
slow stag
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is it ? i thought u wanted that and like rampage for crit heavy could be behind on the times though

glacial stratus
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I tried it and it didn't work at all, armor stops it immidiatly

slow stag
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oh dam

glacial stratus
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Wait for Josho to comment tho, mb I wasn't doing it right

royal vortex
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should work the same as it did before

glacial stratus
vestal pine
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it works

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just you cant do the funny 2 second charge zealot anymore

vestal pine
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is my guess

glacial stratus
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@royal vortex best blessings for the recon lasgun?

vestal pine
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this is zealotchat

glacial stratus
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this is Josho chat last time I checked

hushed knoll
royal vortex
hushed knoll
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I just want Josho to live in a candy cane forest

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Where the rivers flow with blackberry wine and the houses are made of gingerbread

ember yew
calm salmon
vestal pine
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perfect strike needs shred

calm salmon
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savage sweep also isn't awful for crowd control, 4 damage cleave cap or not

vestal pine
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but shred doesnt need perfect strike

ember yew
calm salmon
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Yeah I run Flak/Maniac/Momentum/Rampage

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15% toughness per swing has always been exceptionally hard to turn down. It's just such a good boost to overall sustain. See: Ogryn's 20% every time he heavy attacks.

ember yew
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a better momentum as a starting node

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for BOTH horde and single target

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adding on top of that toughness from kills and toughness gen boost via talents

calm salmon
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real and true

slow stag
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i just want big chain sword

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is piety the build with the mk15 or IJ ?

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i assume its not marty

ember yew
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it was used for marty too, tho with crit cdr nerf i can't say how good it is now with Marty + critcdr and never used IJ for it myself

vestal pine
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welp

ember yew
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you got the best one

vestal pine
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just upgrade blessings or something?

ember yew
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can get rid of that momentum for SS and do whatever

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with 8% elites

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Can also go Wrath instead of SS, in some situations its better, in some its a bit worse

royal vortex
vestal pine
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hm

ember yew
dense field
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4% power* vs 25% maniac damage

vestal pine
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true

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me getting annoyed by 4 3 blessings

hushed agate
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New flamer is strong wow

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Little too strong tbh

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Did they make it drain fuel faster?

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Feel like im needing to reload constantly

fleet zealot
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The only change was increasing the impact damage

hushed agate
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Oh ok

fleet zealot
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Ur dog looks homophobic (joke)

hushed agate
ornate bone
vestal pine
grizzled aspen
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That had so much potential...

hushed knoll
north sedge
hushed knoll
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HOII

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How are you owo

grizzled aspen
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I hate the backstab shroudfield penance.

slow stag
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isnt the mk15 heavy evisc tyhe good one?

spare dome
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awesome

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the gov deposited the wrong amount of money

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so they withdrew it

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and triple overdrafted me

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fantastic

north sedge
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Mk2 better at hordes mk15 better at single

hushed knoll
spare dome
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just wonderful

edgy sluice
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I can never make the Eviscs feel right, my axes always out perform them

north sedge
hushed knoll
north sedge
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They're fine

hushed knoll
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I’m so glad you said that

spare dome
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snails are better

slow stag
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is the bis axe still the antax ?

hushed knoll
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What about cold leftover stuffed shells

north sedge
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Rashad

slow stag
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oh the rashad nwo?

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nice

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u run momentum with it ?

north sedge
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Heat them up you chilly freak

hushed knoll
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They’re better cold

slow stag
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i mean IJ

north sedge
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Or marty, whichever

hushed knoll
spare dome
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rashad is sorta the default best just because of bromentum

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if you dont do bromentum then yes the antax

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but its a pretty marginal difference either way

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its really just the heavy attack where rashad is notably much quicker

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i do deci+ht since bromentum is an affront to god

slow stag
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is this axe cursed then ?

ember yew
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you mean imba axe

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its just as this one is slighly worse than rashad

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but its still strong

slow stag
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i have a poopy rashad sadly

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i guess axe build is momentum right ? crits prob arent as good on it

ember yew
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judgment or martyr

dark zealot
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so the game does have an internal tool to see everything and how to obtain them

plain tree
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I've got an ironhelm thunder hammer with unyielding +25
carapace +20
Thrust 3
And headtaker 3

Is that any good?

grizzled aspen
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That's basically perfect depending on stats.

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Might want to change headtaker to skullcrusher?

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And if you've got it upgrade thrust to 4.

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The headtaker to skullcrusher is entirely preference, btw.

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Not exactly necessary.

vast basin
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id prefer headtaker

grizzled aspen
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I prefer skullcrusher, but you may also just want to boost carapace to the 25% mark. (if it even passes any bps for mauler/crusher kills)

plain tree
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Unyielding and thrust are not locked

vestal pine
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skullcrusher is bit wild tbh

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thrust 4 and unyielding 4

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not much else

plain tree
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Gotcha

grizzled aspen
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Bro basically pulled a perfect thammer right off the bat.

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I'm a little jealous, tbh.

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I don't think the 20% to 25% carapace upgrade would even pass any bps so it's really just down to upgrading thrust and picking your poison on headtaker/skullcrusher 4.

vestal pine
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headtaker is lokced i think

plain tree
vestal pine
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idk if skullcrusher is good

grizzled aspen
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Why would headtaker be locked?

plain tree
grizzled aspen
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Oh, rip...

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Well headtaker isn't bad.

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Skullcrusher is just my preference for horde clear.

plain tree
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I'm away from keyboard for a while, is there an app or website to view my inventory?

vestal pine
vast basin
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there is one for the armoury and melks, dont think it can show your inventory though

plain tree
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Drat, I know it's a 350 ish roll but I don't remember the spread of the top of my head

nimble fiber
plain tree
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Martyrdom or inexorable judgment for a hammer build?

hard nexus
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i find martyrdom to be very fun

plain tree
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Or whatever the momentum stacks one is called

vestal pine
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judgement yes

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ultrakill but multiplayer would be like

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a coke

frosty herald
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It would be a clusterfuck lmfao

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Shooting the coin and then parrying the ricochet bullet

visual stream
calm salmon
hard nexus
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@vestal pine @frosty herald

vestal pine
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regular ultrakill already burns my retina

pulsar zinc
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question for my shock maul enjoyers, which version are you running around with?

vestal pine
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3 but if you like playing fotf zealot consider getting 1 cause H1 is a downthrust

sullen forge
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Mk III, Its melee combo is just enjoyable to me imo

merry flume
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i like 1 because i can make maulers lay on the ground

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its like a mini crusher

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i was wondering why my game was so hard

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like it just felt like a slog the whole time

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everyone here was in the game from the start

grizzled aspen
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Did the first guy just not fight?

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Usually you have everyone at the same level of damage with one guy pulling far ahead but this is just unnatural.

merry flume
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console psyker that only used smite

grizzled aspen
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Bruh...

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Another reason to remove smite.

merry flume
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another reason to make smite harder to use

grizzled aspen
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Doesn't do damage and creates goobers that rely on other people to do their job for them.

merry flume
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then blows himself up anyway

grizzled aspen
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Honestly if they cut the target count down and made it do significantly more damage I'd be all for it.

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But right now I sacrifice SO much damage by running it that it feels worthless.

merry flume
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they should make a mod that only shows a player quit percentage

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so i know whether to bother staying in lobby or not

grizzled aspen
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Like matches where I ran smite I got around 350-400k damage, but matches where I literally only used my sword and scrier's gaze I pull like 500k+ damage.

merry flume
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oh yeah i can screenshot because i use power di

grizzled aspen
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I do even more if I use my ranged weapon and not scrier's.

merry flume
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i dont play psyker so idk if this is trash or not

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wait he wasn't using smite

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HOW TF WAS HE BLOWING HIMSELF UP

grizzled aspen
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Change the weakspot damage to flak and the blazing spirit to uncanny strike on your sword. Can't say anything about the shotgun as I haven't used it extensively yet.

merry flume
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huh

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not my build

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was the build of the guy with 100 kills

grizzled aspen
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Oh lord...

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That's probably why.

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Why would you run warp battery when you aren't using a staff?

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And yeah, how was he blowing himself up??? He only has bb to generate peril.

merry flume
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ok if he was being useless and getting no kills

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and had force sword

grizzled aspen
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100% he has to be trying for the warp battery penance or be trying for pick and mix.

merry flume
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he was prob just sitting in a corner spammish push

grizzled aspen
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Ain't no other way.

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I refuse to believe it.

grizzled aspen
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You would have to be pushing while out of stamina for at least like 3 minutes straight.

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Or...

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He has kinetic flayer on.

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Does that generate peril? I've never used it because it's so... weird?

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It seems too inconsistent to warrant using it.

merry flume
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lmao idc about the usernames anymore but look where dude went down at

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who the fuck ever gets downed up there

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WHY ARE YOU UP THERE 😭

grizzled aspen
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I'm more concerned as to why he's separated from his team.

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That's really far out of the way.

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Even if he was on the ground I would still be wondering why he ventured so far from coherency.

merry flume
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yeah i wonder who tagged 2 whole things the entire game

grizzled aspen
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I'm gonna be real, I don't tag anything but bulwarks, gunners, and snipers anymore.

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And that's mainly because I can't typically deal with them when I ping them.

royal vortex
merry flume
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i ping everything i see

grizzled aspen
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If I can kill it in less than 2 seconds from where I currently am, I don't bother pinging it.

merry flume
grizzled aspen
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That includes lining up a throwing knife to drop a sniper.

royal vortex
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if u cannot find the mauler in the horde i think it is time to review some where's waldos

grizzled aspen
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I agree.

merry flume
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ill review my foot in you're asse...

grizzled aspen
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Maulers are pretty tall, bro.

royal vortex
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y'roue*

ripe quest
grizzled aspen
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If you're getting hit by one that's in front of you then that's on you.

grizzled aspen
merry flume
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yeah my bad for expecting my team to be a team

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😔 ✊

grizzled aspen
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You can't blame your own eyeballs not working on your teammates.

royal vortex
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who needs tags when u have this

merry flume
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i cannot see in 360 4k vision

grizzled aspen
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Maulers stand like a foot taller than chaff and have a giant welding mask on. It's genuinely your fault if you can't see them.

ripe quest
royal vortex
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i don't trust tags because if i try to use them for something like i dunno shooting the tagged dude half the time theyre on the other end of a fully nonpierceable wall

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and my day is darkened

grizzled aspen
merry flume
grizzled aspen
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Why are you so adamant on blaming your teammates for your non-working eyeballs?

frozen glen
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vacuum capsule cryonic rod vacuum capsule cryonic rod vacuum capsule cryonic rod vacuum capsule cryonic rod vacuum capsule cryonic rod

grizzled aspen
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Just have functional eyeballs 4head.

merry flume
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ok in this hypothetical situation i planned out i actually blew all the enemies up iwth my mind

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what now

grizzled aspen
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THEN WHY ARE YOU COMPLAINING?

royal vortex
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why not complain

merry flume
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yeah huh

grizzled aspen
royal vortex
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these SHITTERS need to get on my level (dying to one dreg rager that spawned behind you without a sound cue)

grizzled aspen
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I'm going to beat you to death with a rock.

slate void
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I just tag whatever the most annoying specialist on the field is so people can avoid it or kill it better

royal vortex
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they gave dreg ragers like a 50% attack speed buff

merry flume
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you saw this creature attempt to play darktide with proof that he was just drooling on it and you say to me :
yeah why couldn't you just be better 😔

frozen glen
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dbz instant transmission sfx

hushed agate
grizzled aspen
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Yeah dreg ragers did not need the attack speed buff.

hushed agate
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I cant remember the last time one killed me

grizzled aspen
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They already spawn in gangs of 12, they do not need to be literal walking blenders.

royal vortex
#

if u get caught without a crutch button (shout/chastise/etc) and no stun immunity u will actually just get murdered its p funny

hushed agate
frozen glen
#

what crutch button bro every zealot ability counters ragers

merry flume
#

psykers getting immediate brain explode trying to force block it

acoustic dune
royal vortex
#

the moment i equip the devil claw my threat level fo rmelee enemies is -90%

grizzled aspen
#

Dclaw 1shots ragers.

royal vortex
#

and they just run through me

#

actually unplayable

merry flume
#

me when i use crusher

grizzled aspen
#

Or yeah just use crusher and bully them on the ground.

#

Stagger go brrrrr.

acoustic dune
#

Just play ogryn

merry flume
#

they should make a cooler verson of the crusher

grizzled aspen
#

Speaking of... I need to get one.

acoustic dune
#

And stagger them

frozen glen
#

or just shoot them

#

shoot them

grizzled aspen
#

Ogryn needs a crusher.

#

Would make ogryn very fun.

merry flume
#

all of ogryn weapons is the crusher

grizzled aspen
#

No, no, like actually give ogryn access to the crusher.

merry flume
#

toothpick

hushed agate
grizzled aspen
#

Extra large power maul.

hushed agate
#

Good idea

acoustic dune
#

Is that a good idea?

merry flume
#

its just a big pipe with a jagged end

grizzled aspen
#

Actually... I can see it being fun.

#

Speargryn sweep.

#

That's what the special could be.

merry flume
#

throwing it

grizzled aspen
#

Big ole sweep attack that knocks stuff down.

merry flume
#

since it's rusty pipe he can just pick more up

acoustic dune
hushed agate
#

Still waiting for ogryn brass knuckles

royal vortex
#

we all need to aspire to be like this ogryn

#

this guy is a plane above the rest of us

grizzled aspen
acoustic dune
#

He get like 10 in total

acoustic dune
#

And he can pick it up

acoustic dune
merry flume
#

ye like vermintide javelin

grizzled aspen
hushed agate
#

I want a power fist for my zealot

merry flume
#

im a big fan of fatshark just reusing all of vermintides animations to make 40k versions of everything

grizzled aspen
#

If anything actual power fists would go to vets.

merry flume
#

cause darktide is in desperate need of weapon variety

acoustic dune
hushed agate
acoustic dune
#

Make it ultra speed

grizzled aspen
merry flume
#

just give zealot double knife

hushed agate
#

Psyker got hacker even though they dont have combat shotguns

acoustic dune
#

But very low damage

hushed agate
#

So i bet we'll get p fist

acoustic dune
merry flume
#

i hope we see more ganger type weapons the further into atoma we go

grizzled aspen
#

Or, alternatively, 2h force sword using kerillian's greatsword moveset.

merry flume
#

shuriken launchers actually sound pretty cool

hushed agate
#

What about a flamer that can lob explosive fire balls that explode

grizzled aspen
#

Give me volkite, fatshark.

acoustic dune
hushed agate
#

No?

acoustic dune
#

I demand ratling gunner in game

hushed agate
#

Rating?

#

You mean ratling?

acoustic dune
#

I demand short people awarness

scenic pine
#

oh you gotta be kidding me, the bolt pistol i built deals barely not enough damage to one shot a trapper

hushed agate
acoustic dune
scenic pine
#

If i sprint it oneshots them tho but yknow

#

Still gotta get used to it

merry flume
#

i think bolt pistol will eventually get buffed

#

or at least reworked

acoustic dune
merry flume
#

like most guns got reworked and now they all feel kinda nice \

acoustic dune
#

I can leave with lesser ammo

hushed agate
#

Needs better infested

acoustic dune
merry flume
#

like all of the headhunters getting reworked so people would actually use them

hushed agate
merry flume
#

headhunters are still boring to use but at least they kill now

zinc talon
hushed agate
#

Hey orki you got any funny looking weapons recently?

zinc talon
#

lessee

acoustic dune
#

God I love the knife

#

Only for the speed

#

Make me feel like a crack addict

zinc talon
hushed agate
zinc talon
sullen forge
#

This axe is too heavy

hushed agate
merry flume
#

all or nothing has to be the worst blessing ever

north sedge
#

vicious slice!

acoustic dune
#

Question

merry flume
#

at least you can get it to actually fucking work without edging your stamina

zinc talon
#

Mechanicousin Robokri says it's imbued with the emperor's own power

#

really it's just radioactive and kinda leaking

#

find yourself outta breath all the time

acoustic dune
#

Did they give the ogryn 2 billhook?

zinc talon
#

3 pickaxes

acoustic dune
#

With the pull mechanic

zinc talon
#

then 2 yes

#

Kars and Borovian

acoustic dune
#

Kinda feel like it

zinc talon
#

wait Bronx and Borovian

#

Kars gets a stagger jab with the butt of the pick

rough galleon
#

Come to the bronx
Get your head pulled in

zinc talon
#

Bronx is almost entirely overhead strikedowns

acoustic dune
#

Can't believe ogryn are just dwarf

zinc talon
#

Borovian is a middle of the road sweep and overhead with pull and cleave push attack

#

gets 2 overheads after the push too

#

Kars is mostly sweeps with easy to combo into overheads

zinc talon
#

heh I made okri the smallest on the height slider I could

#

cuz he's a dwarf get it

hushed agate
#

Shortgrynuwugryn

acoustic dune
#

As they say

#

Stoning n rockin

zinc talon
#

Cousin Rockri is handsome and strong

#

new tracking from fatshark says 4.2 million rocks have been thrown since careers debuted

#

I betcha about a third are mine

acoustic dune
zinc talon
acoustic dune
#

You know what I want to see?

#

A ogryn psycher

#

Or a ogryn who think himself as a pdycher

zinc talon
#

there's one somewhere in canon

acoustic dune
#

Who think himself as a ogryn

zinc talon
#

yeah just a weirdboy with a skin disease

acoustic dune
#

Who think is a psycher

zinc talon
#

he just really loves empra, ullanor convinced him he's immortal and invincible

#

gestalt takes care of the rest

acoustic dune
#

Then one day he evolve into a krok

#

Or the peak of ork

zinc talon
#

the stronger he gets the stronger the gestalt, and the more humanesque he becomes

acoustic dune
#

Since along there were a shard of his in him

#

God now I wanna re listen to the necron isekai

zinc talon
#

he's one of the few things keeping empra alive

#

cuz he thinks He's immortal

#

there's a not so crazy theory James Workshop teases out every so often that the reason emperor hasn't died yet is that ullanor convinced the orks he can't be killed by anything

#

and that all the waaaghs since partly have to do with trying to become as strong as He is

#

if they get stronger, so does He

#

but it's like, star child or emperor sired his own children as time went on type stuff

acoustic dune
#

God I miss the tts emperor series

#

Been enjoying there newer work doh

#

It's a fun listen

acoustic dune
#

The heresy war might have went better

#

Like in baki

ornate bone
#

what is good on the chainsword blessing wise

acoustic dune
#

Cleave I would say

grizzled aspen
#

Depends on what mk chainsword you're using.

#

Mk13 chainsword needs wrath because it's the light spam chainsword.

#

The mk4 can have either rampage or savage sweep, depending on preference.

#

Savage sweep gives an immense cleave bonus, but rampage sacrifices some of that cleave for more damage.

#

Only 32 more shroudfield backstabs to go...

#

Which translates to like 97 because they don't fucking register...

#

Actually rage inducing...

ripe quest
hollow laurel
#

guys, im normally playing damnation, but it seems, gunners are being... more... gunners? i doesnt really like using guns, already have -60% gunner reduction, but still getting too much dmg, any tip?

nimble fiber
#

toughness curios

hollow laurel
#

im at 240 toughness

vocal pulsar
#

if you have 240 toughness, and have 60% gunner resist (closer to 48% resist, mathmatically) and are still getting mowed down by gunners

#

then you aren't dodging them anywhere near enough

#

dodge/slide dodge into them. shoot at them to supress them. engage them in melee asap to get them to stop shooting

hollow laurel
#

i never tried to slide, dodge has 4 charges limits, else ill be too slow, also for my gun... takes like 4 secs to switch for it

dense field
#

unbind your jump key

#

or rather re-bind it

vocal pulsar
#

even with a dodge limit of three you can dodge very frequently

spare talon
#

Move either your jump or dodge to another key

#

I moved my dodge to shift out of principle of shift being the movement key and space being the jump key

dense field
#

I moved my jump key to LAlt

hollow laurel
#

happens alot jumping, hehe

spare talon
#

If I had jump on any other button
I'd have an aneurysm

grizzled aspen
#

45k boss damage...

#

I don't even have a proper knife.

#

And I didn't use my flamer on bosses at all.

spare talon
grizzled aspen
grizzled aspen
#

I don't think I've ever said anything like that...

spare talon
grizzled aspen
#

Oh then by all means go ahead.

#

Bleed knives are just wasted potential.

spare talon
#

Using your experience without a properly built knife

#

And how effective it still was

grizzled aspen
#

I have ruthless backstab 4 and precog 3 and I was hitting top boss damage even vs a purg psyker.

#

And I was the boss's target for basically the entire time they were alive.

#

So I got zero value out of ruthless backstab at all vs them.

#

I can't imagine how disgusting it would be with uncanny on it.

spare talon
grizzled aspen
#

So this brings me to a better question.

#

Which mk knife is better?

#

I'm using the mk3 right now.

sterile basalt
grizzled aspen
#

Alright, then at least this one that I'm using isn't a total waste.

#

It'll at least fill out my t4 stickerbook for ruthless backstab.

sterile basalt
#

Mk6 just has way better moveset

spare talon
#

They're sidegrades

sterile basalt
#

Also higher single target dps

#

It’s better vs hordes, better vs single target

#

Not rly a competition

grizzled aspen
#

Inb4 giant paragraphs of knife arguments.

spare talon
#

But my personal preference is mk6 is the better one for zealot as it's sweeping attacks are better for it being your main weapon without sacrificing too much beeg damage as you saw

sterile basalt
#

Mk6 has faster atk combo chain which leads to higher single target dps since they have identical breakpoints

grizzled aspen
#

I see. I've been using PA > heavy > light for crowd control with the mk3.

sterile basalt
#

Crowd control for mk3 straight up should not involve heavy attacks

#

Mk3 heavy has no cleave

#

It’s light & PA only

grizzled aspen
#

I've only been using the heavy to pick out bruisers and maulers when I'm fighting a crowd.

sterile basalt
#

That’s fair

grizzled aspen
#

If there aren't any then it's just PA and lights.

#

Mine also rolled 10% poxwalker/groaner damage...

#

The other perk is block efficiency.

#

So I'm really not doing a whole lot of damage, at all.

pulsar zinc
#

actually just picked up MK6 for a moment, so like, it has more cleave, but only Heavy 3 for strikedown? how does it deal with armor? feels like running into a carapace armor enemy is just asking for a 6 year stabbing session

sterile basalt
spare talon
#

The push attack also has the heavy attack damage profile

pulsar zinc
#

hmm, good to know

spare talon
#

So you can still get that single target on demand

#

Where's that video without uncanny strike

pulsar zinc
#

gimme a recommendation for trait rolls

#

okay what in god's name am i looking at there LOL

#

the animations look so fast i genuinely am not sure what they're doing

pulsar zinc
#

is that just pushhold?

sterile basalt
sterile basalt
#

Mk6 has faster heavy atk & push atk combo chain

pulsar zinc
#

noted

minor sage
#

psykers has terrible boss dmg lol

grizzled aspen
#

You are wrong.

sterile basalt
#

If u don’t want to spend stamina, use [heavy > punch > light] loop

grizzled aspen
#

Not even going to argue with you.

#

But you are wrong.

minor sage
#

yes every single other person is wrong and you are right

grizzled aspen
#

Max soulblaze + brain burst + EP + shriek.

#

End of story.

sterile basalt
minor sage
#

lol

sterile basalt
#

Psyker high boss dmg build is gunpsyker

minor sage
#

but then you have a gun and SG

#

which is a pretty big tradeoff in exchange for boss damage lol

spare talon
#

Every other class has a better and more reliable method of boss nuking

fleet zealot
south folio
ember yew
spare talon
vocal pulsar
south folio
#

the bells are tolling "wrong wrong wrong"

vocal pulsar
#

DIT NOT ASK

south folio
#

just that shrimple

round latch
#

melee only viable thing for this class!

south folio
vocal pulsar
round latch
#

if you switch to a gun like a ranged doofus then you are in fact wrong, leave the ranged DPS to the Freaks and the not as pious Veterans...

#

THERE IS ONLY SWORD

spare talon
#

Name checks out

ember yew
#

braced autogun ranged doofus here
checks out

round latch
#

throw a grenade once in awhile to keep people from screaming at you and then PRAISE THE EMPEROR AND GATHER SKULLS FOR THE GOLDEN THRONE!

#

Bolter dont got that ratatatatata fix i need, and the shredder is weak sauce....

#

i am forever sad by how weak range is for Zealot

#

God Forbid you dont have the meta either.... gotta go stealth or else people piss all over you in chat

vocal pulsar
#

zealot has good ranged options lol

vocal pulsar
#

stealth is not meta

#

chastise is

round latch
#

oh good the site is wrong and everyone in this stupid discord i was in is wrong! 😄

dense field
#

might be a regional thing

round latch
#

not THIS discord!!!

#

another one

spare talon
#

You never know

#

That being said
Stealth is good, especially with certain weapons and playstyles
But the general meta for most everything is chastise

dense field
spare talon
#

Throwing knives are right there

dense field
#

yep

round latch
#

THRO MINI SWORDS!

#

i have a thing for Swords obviously

#

big ones small ones and everything in between!

frosty herald
#

Rogue trader making me fight 2 plaguebearers like i didnt just get the nurgle ship invasion event

drifting wolf
#

nurgle loves you

round latch
#

nu uh

carmine plover
#

ngl I don't think I can play knife zealot

#

I am just incapable of using push attacks

round latch
#

there is only Sword

grizzled aspen
#

Push attacks aren't even limited to knife zealout. If you learn to use them you'll be playing significantly better.

carmine plover
#

unless I can bind/macro them to something the chances are slim

grizzled aspen
#

Like, mk2 eviscerator has a sweeping push attack that you can go back into your heavies with. It's very nice to keep lots of things off you.

round latch
#

chain sword or some kind of simple blade thing, hack and slash! rip and te- can i say stuff like that here without getting in trouble?

spare talon
#

It is literally
Holding block
Holding attack

carmine plover
#

I know

grizzled aspen
#

Really, it's not that hard.

#

You just need to train your brain to do it.

round latch
#

blocing is for wimps

grizzled aspen
#

You block?

carmine plover
#

but that don't work for me, holding something to attack has been my nemesis since... yes

round latch
#

i get yelled at a lot though

grizzled aspen
#

I don't.

#

If something hits me, even if I block, I consider it failure to defend myself.

#

Dclaw parries do not count as blocking for this argument.

round latch
#

i tank the hit and smile, then punch em back!

grizzled aspen
#

That's terrible practice.

#

Just push and stagger things so you never get hit.

round latch
#

pffft

grizzled aspen
#

Pushes and dodges are so much better than trying to block anything ever.

jaunty lava
#

Any important differences between the new shock mauls? I haven't tried the update yet

carmine plover
#

I wonder if I can macro push attack to a mouse button, maybe then I'd be capable to remembering to do them consistently

grizzled aspen
#

Agni is more strikedown, indignatus is more crowd control. Both are very good.

grizzled aspen
carmine plover
#

you'd think that

grizzled aspen
#

And who is even saying that you would remember to use said macro?

carmine plover
#

I'm not

#

but the chances are significantly better than having to press two buttons

ripe quest
carmine plover
#

i know it's easy

#

tell that to my hands

grizzled aspen
#

No, you tell that to your hands.

north sedge
grizzled aspen
#

That's your problem to learn.

#

Teach your hands, 4head.

carmine plover
#

my hands rarely do what my brain tells them

frosty herald
#

Push macro is allowed if you arent using it to cancel into l1

carmine plover
#

the issue for me is having to hold the buttons so long

#

it's entirely a skill issue on my part

grizzled aspen
#

"So long" = .5 seconds.

carmine plover
#

that feels awful to me

#

it disrupts the rhythm of melee completely for me

#

if it was something that I use in special situations I could deal with it

misty nova
#

Add pushing to that rhythm

carmine plover
#

but not as a part of bread and butter melee spam

grizzled aspen
#

Literally what higui said.

#

Just mix pushing into your rhythm.

jaunty lava
#

Also what are the notable blessings for the shock mauls?

grizzled aspen
#

Do it enough times and you'll start seeing opportunities where push attacks are more viable than normal ones.

jaunty lava
#

I'm working with that

carmine plover
#

I don't even know the properties of the push attack cause I can't even find it mentioned anywhere in game

grizzled aspen
#

I.e. when you first engage a horde, a push attack can be a good idea (and typically is the best play) to set yourself as the aggressor.

misty nova
serene geyser
#

On crusher if you don’t start with push attack the chances that you get instagibbed by trash from behind are way higher

grizzled aspen
#

That goes for all weapons, not just crusher.

serene geyser
#

It’s not so bad on knife cause you’re always schmooving

grizzled aspen
#

Like, the mk9 heavy sword opens with a strikedown heavy, so using your push attack chains you into your horizontal heavies.

carmine plover
serene geyser
#

But starting with push attack was the sole difference difficulty wise for me between t4 and t5

grizzled aspen
#

Unless you're talking about the knives.

#

Then damage matters.

carmine plover
#

I am talking about knives

grizzled aspen
#

Alright then you use the mk6 and do any heavy into push attack and you can 3 shot crushers with headshots.

#

That is without uncanny on your knife, either.

carmine plover
#

I only have a decent mk3 so that's what I'm using

heady rapids
#

mk3 has a neat special into light combo

grizzled aspen
#

Then I can't exactly help you as I've not played with knives a lot, only just started today.

#

But outside of knives, push attacks are still very valid.

#

For zealout specifically, the mk2 eviscerator is probably the best push attack you have at your disposal across all of your weapons, save knives.

grizzled aspen
#

Maybe crusher does, though.

heady rapids
#

its probably crusher

maiden path
#

mk2 evis is the stab right

grizzled aspen
#

I dont play with crusher so I can't say.

grizzled aspen
heady rapids
#

crusher has insane finesse on its push

grizzled aspen
#

Mk15 is the stab.

north sedge
#

crusher does big boom dmg on push attack

carmine plover
#

right now I'm trying to get any other melee weapon on a decent roll so I can try that instead of knife

maiden path
#

gaay

carmine plover
#

Hammer or Crusher probably

maiden path
#

evis stab best push move

grizzled aspen
#

Try for a mk9 heavy sword. They feel really nice to use and your only downside is not being able to destroy carapace.

heady rapids
#

thats a pretty big downside given the recent nerfs.....

carmine plover
#

I have very very limited resources

grizzled aspen
heady rapids
#

thats a tad bit limiting

grizzled aspen
#

Or use a real bolter if you're feeling spicy.

acoustic dune
grizzled aspen
#

Or ignore what I just said and go for a hammer or crusher like you originally intended.

#

Both are very good weapons.

acoustic dune
#

good

#

i love my boltpiston

grizzled aspen
acoustic dune
#

he is doing his best

carmine plover
#

the only good ranged weapon I have is my Revolver, the only "good" melee i have is my knife

acoustic dune
grizzled aspen
#

I use both a deadly accurate surgical bolt pistol and a lethal proximity puncture bolt pistol for different builds.

#

Pretty sure I don't sleep on it at all.

carmine plover
#

more knife so I can knife while I knife

#

sounds good

acoustic dune
#

put knife on knife

carmine plover
#

I mean technically I have 13 knives on me at all times

carmine plover
#

I do

#

I just miss 80% of them

acoustic dune
#

i love a good mobility knife

#

running as fast as a mutant is the joy of my life

#

stabbin him oh so much joy

south folio
carmine plover
#

I just deal barely any damage because I'm bad

acoustic dune
#

(i have 2 stam curio to be able to shove most of thew time)

carmine plover
#

I'm sorry what

acoustic dune
#

i was not racist

carmine plover
#

I believe you

#

only having two buttons for all the different melee actions really trips me up

#

I somehow need to bind things to more buttons

acoustic dune
#

you have extro button on your mouse?

carmine plover
#

I do, that's what I was planning on using

acoustic dune
#

use it for grenade and special

#

not special skill

#

weapon special

spare talon
carmine plover
#

weapon special is mmb

acoustic dune
spare talon
acoustic dune
#

i meant to say block

acoustic dune
#

for me

spare talon
#

I hate the middle mouse button with a passion

carmine plover
#

so do I

#

weapon special is q now

#

time to figure out how to use the chinese spyware that controls my mouse

spare talon
#

1 it requires me to adjust my hand on my mouse which not only stops me from doing other things with the other buttons but can also fuck to my aim

#

2 it's just unreasonably hard to press on every mouse

carmine plover
#

it gets easier to press the worse the mouse is in my experience

spare talon
#

And 3 it can sometimes proc a scroll and oops you're holding another weapon now

#

My q is swap weapon

carmine plover
#

I unbound that just now

#

I see no point in having that button at all

#

scroll wheel accomplishes the same thing and is already in my muscle memory

spare talon
#

I find scrolling very unreliable
And the more things it can be scrolled to, the worse it is

#

If I want another weapon in my hand, I want it in my hand NOW and I'll eliminate any chance of it not doing so

maiden path
#

solar doesnt work with a kinetic weapon

#

im gonna cry

spare talon
#

With q being right there, and being a single button press, you can't accidentally scroll too far and swap back to the weapon you were holding

maiden path
#

no solar cowboy