zealot-class

[drifting prawn]

You actually get more horde clear

[obsidian prairie]

But its not doing appreciable damage

[drifting prawn]

but yeah, i should've said clear

[median steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-true-kramer-seinfeld-gif-6564373007119861775

[zinc talon]

Indignatus Crusher has entered the chat

my tiny lil zealot should not be able to bowling pin enemies like she does

[coarse birch]

tbf once skullcrusher gets going you start killing them with crusher too

[drifting prawn]

Same brother, same

[coarse birch]

hord clear is weirdly good on it

[drifting prawn]

mine is also a min height Zealot

[coarse birch]

what 80% damage does

[drifting prawn]

Ik taller characters are better but fuck me the mental image is funny as shit.

[zinc talon]

I mean I do set her up to look like a sororitas SoB or SoS

so the armor is likely powered

but yeah, assplanting crushers with a light detonation is like free therapy

I have cast remove feet

[polar stream]

first craft on the patch

[drifting prawn]

Nah, mine's just an angry little badger

[median steeple]

I need a mechanicus class in this game so badly, I NEED TO BE CLOSE TO THE MACHINE

[drifting prawn]

she gnaws at the feet of crushers.

[drifting prawn]

I'VE BEEN ASKING FOR THAT SINCE THE FIRST BETA

[median steeple]

i mean.... free skullcrusher 4

[zinc talon]

hadron was suspiciously kind to me on my first couple saul oranges

I haven't started filling the sticker book yet because I can't settle on how I want my playstyle to be setup

[polar stream]

to harvest? no shot, Hammer/Skull is probably best

[zinc talon]

but I've got like, several several 4s I can immediately scrap

[median steeple]

on saul? no

[zinc talon]

still no fuckin electrocute tho

[median steeple]

pretty sure its high voltage/skullcrusher

[zinc talon]

that one's gonna be my evasive kryptonite

er yeah, high voltage not electrocute

[obsidian prairie]

ask numbers cat

[open pollen]

I am very curious about what'll come after the crafting update. I hope we get another raid boss for the holidays.

[median steeple]

I don't need to since im pretty sure cole and the other numbers people in here have confirmed HV and SC are one of the best rolls to have on saul

[polar nexus]

Telopots uses SC + HB btw

[zinc talon]

trying other setups, without HV, I feel like that's what I'm missing yeah

[median steeple]

Also Lightning reflexes is good on saul

[zinc talon]

plus, I am of the IF SKULLCRUSHER THEN SKULLCRUSHER THE END bloodline/heritage

[median steeple]

yeah for zealot the best is High volt/skull or lightning reflex(hmmmmmm maybe idk)

[zinc talon]

coming from shield and power maul then to crusher with zealot

[median steeple]

just covering my ass with that edit

[zinc talon]

I get it, it's cuz those 3 weapons only have the 4 blessings

but if I could have skullcrusher on any weapon whatsoever it's all I'd ever run, I'd only have one blessing to think about

it's such a boon to the team beyond anything it does for you personally

[polar nexus]

Claw has more impact blessings than maul or crusher

[coarse birch]

Skullcrusher uncanny would be so dumb

[polar nexus]

Wondering 🤔

[coarse birch]

Crusher only has 4 tbf,i think dclaw and hammer have its entire blessing pool

[zinc talon]

I really should revisit the DC, I cauterized it from my brain back when you could gimmick bosses with parry

I hate gimmicks

[polar nexus]

You can still parry them. That's like a major feature.

[polar stream]

well yeh, but I've been on Combat Blade III, Claw VII and Turt VII/IX for looks at watch a year

[polar nexus]

Yeah you must be right. I dunno what they were thinking when they made the claws... So skull crusher, shred, rampage... Thunderstrike? All right. Sorry not enough room for headtaker or thrust.

[zinc talon]

you can still parry and stagger/stun field bosses?

[north sedge]

VICIOUS SLICE

[polar nexus]

Remember

[north sedge]

is the greatest blessing ever made

[polar nexus]

It's dmg

Crab said nope. Code says otherwise.

[median steeple]

hmmm so viscous

[coarse birch]

Parry is still decent damage into bosses but no its not like the first week of buffed dclaw

[spare talon]

parrying cant stun bosses

[zinc talon]

cuz what I remember, is the boss would attack, you'd parry, and it would force the boss back a step

[zinc talon]

okay thought so

[polar stream]

parry daemonhost to death, half a wound of corruption, simple as

[zinc talon]

so now you just avoid the attack and deal damage in the process

[polar nexus]

The rampage bug?

[zinc talon]

that, I can live with

before, it'd knock em back a step like say bible thumping does now

you could cliff bosses if you wanted or simply be patient and press one button and eventually win

that stuck in my craw bigtime

[coarse birch]

Oh right i forgot about that

But also the parry was just stronger

[polar nexus]

????

[coarse birch]

When they initially buffed it

Iirc

[polar nexus]

I thought they only buffed it.

[coarse birch]

I might be going insane but i think they tuned some numbers back

[polar nexus]

That must be between p13 and p14 then

[coarse birch]

A little bit after its huge buff

Cause it was like 1 or 2 shotting crushers with way less set up than now

[wraith cipher]

does anyone know if lethal proximity works with puntcure on the bolt pistol?

[polar nexus]

It doesn't

[wraith cipher]

booooo

[polar nexus]

That may be a bug

[wraith cipher]

i saw that combo and was thinking about making it

[polar nexus]

I wonder if you can still do that with the change they made to chastise.

[coarse birch]

Chastise +buffs allowed it before

So probably

[polar nexus]

We all did:(

[polar nexus]

Yeah but nunuchastise is rending not armor downgrade

[median steeple]

prob not since LP just removes the arming distance no? and thats only for direct hits and not "near shots"

https://tenor.com/view/megamind-huh-gif-17668214920156116049

nah wait

[coarse birch]

Yeah removes arming distance makes the explosion bigger

[median steeple]

Im max stupid

I read LP as punctures description

[polar nexus]

But you could apply bleed to more targets

:/

[median steeple]

I mean it should work but the explosion doesn't count as a ranged attack

[polar nexus]

Didn't the play testers say that it worked at some point?

[median steeple]

no idea I don't pay attention to that unless they come in here

[coarse birch]

Not afaik and i talked to skele recently

[polar nexus]

Ok so someone somewhere was bsing.

I wonder if skull crusher still interacts with dots. And if the explosion of the bolt pistol is enough to trigger it.

[glacial stratus]

@royal vortex what do you think about this build?

[carmine plover]

Alright so I actually went ahead and tested Shield of Contempt

it's a per player cd

I can now sleep content

[polar nexus]

It has been known since forever

[carmine plover]

and yet I kept getting told from various sources that it didn't

[polar nexus]

Also: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3088553235

[warm sluice]

Is there a better Blessing for damage on the double barrel than Deathspitter?

[carmine plover]

this mentions it being a global cd tho

"So if it has been proc'ed either by Zealot or by an ally in coherency, it grants its damage reduction only to the player who triggered it before it goes on cooldown for 10s"

which is incorrect

the cd is indepentent for each player

Also since when is my name red

[polar nexus]

Since now

[carmine plover]

I have been promoted it seems

[polar nexus]

It's strange. I am sure that I read kuli saying it's not a global CD.

[carmine plover]

that community post has been referenced to me multiple times and was my inital source for my assumtion that it was a global cd

[polar nexus]

Yeah but in discord I have read multiple times that it's a per player CD.

[carmine plover]

so have I upon asking

[polar nexus]

@ripe quest do you know if it's possible to check the code?

[carmine plover]

like, an hour or so ago

[fleet zealot]

it's per person

[polar nexus]

So how did you test it?

[fleet zealot]

i didn't test it

[polar nexus]

Man. Kuli has been my source for so long.

😦

[carmine plover]

got a friend, told him to run into the fire after me and tell me if he gets the golden window cracks on the border of the screen

[fleet zealot]

you can go test it in a private game, maybe a mod to remove bots if you can't get 4

fire might not trigger it?

[carmine plover]

it does

any health damage does

[spare talon]

all i know is, when i run it, every single time i take health damage, i visibly see it take effect, every time

[carmine plover]

run into fire, get golden cracks, friend runs into fire, gets golden cracks

functionality proven

[south folio]

pretty neat that it has its own effect instead of just a square icon

[spare talon]

really wish it also had a buff icon tho

literally everything else does

[south folio]

yeah both would make it less confusing

[carmine plover]

I would've loved for it to have an icon as well

but this works

[south folio]

at least we can easily tell since it's the sole thing that has its own on-screen effect so far

[carmine plover]

now the middle tree isn't completely horrid at least

me is happy

[polar nexus]

Wdym golden cracks

[ripe quest]

The code of SoC is perilous and deep dives into the networking bullshit that isn't readable for me so I mainly just rely on people who have the ability to parse that info and people who have tested it, both of which have said an individual cooldown for each player exists.

[carmine plover]

like a cracked window with golden glow

I couldn't find a good source online so I just did it myself

[polar nexus]

I do not use soc that I may not have seen that effect

We should probably contact Kuli @real mountain is that you?

[carmine plover]

it doesn't help that the other two trees to the side of it are significantly better as a whole

at least in my opinion

[polar nexus]

I can afford to take it if do not use a build with crits.. so mostly chaxe or combat axe.

[gilded lintel]

Is there any reason to bother getting a good columnus on zealot?

I use it on psyker/veteran, and there's this in the shop but never tried using it as a zealot

[polar nexus]

This is excellent

[gilded lintel]

But on zealot?

[polar nexus]

Ciag is excellent everywhere

[obsidian prairie]

It’s a great gun for mulching anything but carapace

[polar nexus]

You can go dumdum+stripped down to proce every dodge talent (swift certainty is not)

Or just dumdum + ds

[obsidian prairie]

I would say dumdum ds because you have a near perfect ciag right there

[polar nexus]

As for the perks: flak + maniac/unyielding/elite or crit chance

[lucid dune]

crit chance, unyielding, dumdum, raking fire = boss/bon killer.

[carmine plover]

Meanwhile, I'm just sitting here. Noobling that I am with but a singular "good" weapon to my name

[polar nexus]

Yeah but dumdum is mandatory

[obsidian prairie]

I have a collection of decidedly better than mediocre stuff laying around

[carmine plover]

I think this is the one decent gun I own

[obsidian prairie]

The best way to learning to be ok with the crafting system is learning to be ok with a bad perk

[gilded lintel]

My most prized knife

lmao

[polar nexus]

Please. Change those perks.

[spare talon]

thats pretty good
now just change both perks

[carmine plover]

It's not the worst crafting system I've seen

[polar nexus]

The blessings are perfect

[carmine plover]

top 5 tho

[spare talon]

a very measly 5% crit chance on a weapon with an inherent very high crit bonus AND a blessing that ensures crits

and crit damage is crit damage

[carmine plover]

crit crit crit crit

[gilded lintel]

Crit damage isn't '10% more damage on critical hit' its 'the damage bonus from the critical hit is increased by 10%'

[polar nexus]

It's the rng + the cost of it the problem. I don't like sunking resources to get one fucking blessing. That I can't really rn because it's t2

[gilded lintel]

So if you deal 10 damage, then 20 on a crit, 10% crit damage will make it 21 damage not 22

[carmine plover]

I play PoE, shitty RNG crafting is in my blood

[warm sluice]

Does anyone know how much HP a Mutant has when there's a wave of them because of an Auric modifier?

[gilded lintel]

Mods I imagine

[spare talon]

i use my example with 100 and 150
meaning its 155 damage and not 165

[polar nexus]

You could have one of the best revolver around. If you could change those perks.

[carmine plover]

I mean I can

once I get some adamantium

[polar nexus]

You have the luxury of having the bis blessings locked

[spare talon]

how is diamantine the thing you are low on

[gilded lintel]

One day they'll fix boltgun and I can try this thing up

[spare talon]

do you play uprising only

[carmine plover]

idk man, I'm low on everything

[polar nexus]

With better perks, more wins, more resources QED

[north sedge]

i have double the plasteel that i do diamantine

[carmine plover]

I'm always low on everything

[north sedge]

i am special

[polar nexus]

Maniac to unyielding

[spare talon]

its more that plasteel is spent at a higher rate than diamantine is
so you will always be bottlenecked on that as its required for every step in the upgrade process

[gilded lintel]

Only reason I haven't broken it down is because they might one day make boltgun worth using lol

[carmine plover]

Recently got into Damnations so it's starting to get better, but the resource drain that is crafting is quite something

[polar nexus]

Also. Surgical on zealot is hard... You'd better go with cavalcade in a piety build or shattering

[gilded lintel]

At the moment my zealot only uses flamer. I can't seem to get a revolver that I like so I stick to flamer

[north sedge]

i have half the diamantine of plasteel!

[merry flume]

i wish there was a dia > pla conversion

[spare talon]

the jump from heresy to damnation gives you more than double the amount

[hushed knoll]

YAAAAAS SLAY

[carmine plover]

I noticed that, just stuff lying around everywhere

[spare talon]

if you get all pickups and all idols in damnation in quickplay
you can get 1000+ plasteel

[polar nexus]

That's my main weapon on zealot. It's good.

[gilded lintel]

Yea auric for docket farming, damnation regular (Low intensity if you're lucky) for plasteel farming

[carmine plover]

IF I can manage to get to the end. I'm not good enough to carry anything and neither are my matchmade friends about half the time

[spare talon]

if youre at the point where you are able to auric docket farm
normal damnation is definitely faster for mats in quickplay regardelss of your team

[gilded lintel]

Yea, I run damnation as knife zealot in quickplay for when I want to farm resources

[spare talon]

have you tried not taking damage?
ive heard thats the biggest help

[carmine plover]

believe me I'm trying

I'm just a walking skill issue

[spare talon]

jokes aside
what do you end up struggling with the most

[obsidian prairie]

I’d be down to help in a bit

[gilded lintel]

You'll adapt over time, practice makes perfect

[carmine plover]

randomly dying to things because I didn't pay attention

hitting things in the head

[obsidian prairie]

Well that one is pretty easy

[carmine plover]

the usual

[obsidian prairie]

The more you play Darktide the easier it is to fight horde without thinking

So you can eventually focus on other stuff

[carmine plover]

most of my experience is timing dodges and M1 spamming my knife

[obsidian prairie]

Which knife

[south folio]

i recommend splitting your jump and dodge actions to separate keybinds

[carmine plover]

then missing all my throwing knives in a row

[south folio]

cuz that lets you spam dodges without worrying about being punished into a jump

splitting those keybinds is the first step to greatness

[real mountain]

was your friend a zealot, too?

[carmine plover]

Cat MK3

[mint brook]

rings true for me, dont know bout you:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dY9F4MNQ5Mg&ab_channel=Reginald

[obsidian prairie]

Get a mk6

[ripe quest]

I also recommend binding crouch and dodge to buttons that are easy to hit in succession.

[obsidian prairie]

Better at everything

[carmine plover]

Lightning Psyker

[real mountain]

did you check damage taken before/after?

[spare talon]

i have dodge on shift and crouch on ctrl

[carmine plover]

I just checked for the visual indicator of it proccing

[south folio]

dodge on shift and crouch on C is what's comfortable for how my hand approaches the keyboard

[obsidian prairie]

I have crouch on c and haven’t changed dodge

[carmine plover]

my dodge is spacebar

[south folio]

my pinky happens to have been strengthened by another game i played so i'm fine with dodge on shift

[north sedge]

my dodge is on prt scrn

[ripe quest]

I just have crouch on spacebar, dodge on shift, and jump on b

[carmine plover]

mine got broken by warframe

[spare talon]

i binded my dodge to my pcs powerbutton

[obsidian prairie]

Heresy quickplay

[carmine plover]

time to find a new jump button I suppose

[obsidian prairie]

You do not have to split dodge and jump

I have like 500+ hours in tide games and it isn’t needed

[spare talon]

youre right
just like how you dont have to ADS to play competitive shooters

[lucid dune]

it helps

[carmine plover]

I just have it set so the only time I jump is when moving forward rn

everything else dodges

[south folio]

the thing is that you jump whenever dodge is in cooldown
being able to just set your brain off of having to time dodges is nice

[lucid dune]

it's not like you have to jump to avoid disabling skulls in DT =D

[south folio]

you can also download a mod to disable the jump during dodge cooldown behavior

[lucid dune]

there's a mod for that

[obsidian prairie]

That does sound nice but I am in way to deep to change basic movement binds

[carmine plover]

what isn't there a mod for

[fleet zealot]

ferret snorkeling

[carmine plover]

at least I'm already past the hassle that is UI customization

took care of that early on

[obsidian prairie]

Making every texture pepperoni pizza

[carmine plover]

sounds more like a "not yet" to me

[median steeple]

im so ignorant about movement in this game, I still have no idea why my character moves like they're in molasses sometimes

[hushed knoll]

I have crouch on mouse button 5

[obsidian prairie]

Same

[median steeple]

derangement

[hushed knoll]

Who is deranged

[carmine plover]

I recently acquired more mouse buttons, maybe I can macro a slide in there

[obsidian prairie]

Don’t

Stan is deranged

[hushed knoll]

Why

Hold 5 to crouch/ slide

[median steeple]

BUT WHY

[obsidian prairie]

If you see anyone with a heinously misspelled name it’s Stan’s fault

[hushed knoll]

Why not tho

[median steeple]

evil being with evil keybinds

[hushed knoll]

It’s comfortable

[south folio]

🙂

[median steeple]

it's like staring at a car crash and you can't look away

[hushed knoll]

It's comfortable

Try it

[median steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/captain-america-marvel-chris-evans-steve-rogers-old-man-gif-14744550

[hushed knoll]

What do you gave it bound to

[open pollen]

Anyone think they might've gone overboard removing bottlenecks on maps this last go around?

[hushed knoll]

[median steeple]

I use my mouse5/4 for weapon special

[hushed knoll]

[median steeple]

and the other one for PTT

[hushed knoll]

No I meant what do you have crouch bound to

[open pollen]

The dropdown bypass on the carnival map and the shortcut bypass on hab dreyko seem a bit eggregious.

[median steeple]

oh Ctrl since I have big hands and can hit it comfortably

[hushed knoll]

WTF

CTRL IS THE WORST KEY

[median steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/finger-wag-no-no-no-gif-27552536

[hushed knoll]

Makes me sweat and y hands hurt just thinking about it

Anyone who uses control for a keybind is crazy

[open pollen]

I'm a Half Life 2 Babby, Ctrl non-toggle is bae.

I've been battin' ctrl with my pinkie since I was but a weee bab

My pinkie is so strong guys

[median steeple]

I use toggle crouch for certain games and darktide is not one of those games

[open pollen]

How else am I suppose to communicate a sense of childlike glee if not through rapid crouching?

https://tenor.com/view/stone-hands-golem-neverending-story-big-strong-hands-gif-5224752

[carmine plover]

Some day I'll figure out how to deal damage

my number are just too low for my liking

[fleet zealot]

what your weaponsa nd talents

[carmine plover]

Stealthy Knife Zealot

with the revolver

I don't know if it's my playstyle, my aim or both

[carmine plover]

is there an easy way to link builds?

[visual stream]

Could just take pictures or you can put it in on Gameslantern then link it here I believe

[fleet zealot]

if you are on pc

just print screen and crop in paint or something

[spare talon]

BATTLE PASS BUYER
MODS BAN HIM

[fleet zealot]

if you are on xbox, idk, hold your phone steady

[nimble fiber]

cole do a backflip

[carmine plover]

time to import thingies into gamelantern, one moment

[spare talon]

there is a mod that squishes the talent tree to fit in one screen

but i do prefer the gameslantern method

[carmine plover]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9c7437a5-0c6a-4ed5-bedc-275961344608/test-15?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

I think this is everything?

[fleet zealot]

alrighty

you gonna get critiqued now

[carmine plover]

that's what I'm here for

go wild

[fleet zealot]

first on your knife, crit chance simply isn't owrht the opportunity cost as a perk

vs 25% to an important armor (flak maniac unyielding) or even 10% elites

[spare talon]

first critique
delete your account

[fleet zealot]

as for blessings you wanna swap out mercy killer for uncanny

[fleet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/kirby-kiss-kirby-kiss-kirby-super-star-kirby-super-star-kiss-gif-25332268

[carmine plover]

I don't have access to any blessings

[fleet zealot]

the standard knife blessing set ups tend to be uncanny+ precog or riposte (mk6 can run executor) or some niche riposte+precog

[spare talon]

precog also works but its less forgiving in exchange for potentially being way better all around

[fleet zealot]

your revolver is perfect besides crit chance perk

surgical hits 100% anyways

[carmine plover]

what should I replace it with?

[fleet zealot]

and for the sake of damage maxing we are swapping keystones

def need to test if flak or maniac will get you a BP

BP=breakpoint

[carmine plover]

I'm sure there's some math I can do instead of wasting what few resources I have

[fleet zealot]

you can adjust a few points, like 10% crit on the blazing extension node, swap off until death

[spare talon]

this is very close to what i run on my knife @carmine plover

[fleet zealot]

good balance+second wind is the best defenseive combo in the game

[fleet zealot]

this is also a good one, probably better than mine since i'm not as experience as cole is with knife play

[spare talon]

then again i also for some reason just really dont like this node

[fleet zealot]

also, if you do want to STICK too momentum, don't take retributor's stance, it simply isn't worth the point compared to other options

[spare talon]

infested only really counts dogs and enemies that are not really an issue
and monstrosities stop being an issue once you get good enough
but thats just me

[carmine plover]

I mostly melee so its always doing something

[fleet zealot]

that's fair, you could also adjust this out

not many infested enemies tbh

[nimble fiber]

or hammer play, because we all know that cole is the hammer expert

[carmine plover]

did I hear... hammer?

[fleet zealot]

only pox walkers, dogs, and pox bombers (you aren't gonna hit a pox bomber with melee)

[spare talon]

considering that you have knife crit cdr i really like the invis tough regen
and sustained assault is RIGHT THERE
for 20% damage against EVERYTHING

[fleet zealot]

(i don't think twbs is needed on knife at all)

[spare talon]

hell i think i even swapped out the 10% crit chance for more attack speed on my actual build

[fleet zealot]

true

10% extra from blazing, def droppable

[spare talon]

oh i will crutch on twbs to the end of my days

[fleet zealot]

good balance is too stronk

[spare talon]

plus grievous wounds is also right under twbs and actually ends up being useful on knife when youre eventually fight hordes with it

just helps control the situations a little bit more

[fleet zealot]

as for your curios

[carmine plover]

this looks like I'd enjoy it

[fleet zealot]

you wanna swap 2 of the HP bases to toughness bases

at least

if not all 3

zealot scales stupidly well with toughness curio

[spare talon]

toughness is zealots bread and butter
especially since you have 2 very reliable and constant methods of large toughness boosts

[fleet zealot]

no need for sprint efficiency, you slide around while sprinting to keep momentum without costing stam

[carmine plover]

I don't slide

[spare talon]

you should be

[fleet zealot]

well you better start

[spare talon]

do i have a video of me sliding with knife

[fleet zealot]

scooting your ass on the ground is the best defense

[carmine plover]

I hate having to complicate my movement more

[median steeple]

aight hold on this might be peak

[carmine plover]

it's already bad enough

[fleet zealot]

if you are on xbox i udnerstnad

[spare talon]

movement is definitely probably the best thing to keeping you alive

[fleet zealot]

but PC you can rebind if needed

it's absoltuely a game changer

[carmine plover]

I am on pc and my pinky finger is not made for this

[fleet zealot]

anyways, i'd say stam regen is fine on knife

[carmine plover]

years of warframe made it very sensitive to prolonged use

[fleet zealot]

i use the base of my hand/pinky spot

for ctrl

knife has extremely powerful push attacks so it won't hurt to have stam regen, you could even go a curio of +3 stam

[spare talon]

me and my 3 +3 stams cuz im a fucking lunatic

[fleet zealot]

so like, +3 stam, +21% hp, and +17% toughness if you don't want to jump off the extra HP all the way

as for minor perks, I typically run 5% tough, 5% HP on all of them, then at least 1 sniper curio and 1 gunner curio

[spare talon]

i find it crazy how ive played knife zealot for this long and i still havent found a realistic use for the special attack

[ivory marlin]

Sneezed so hard i collapsed crying in pain

I hate being sick

[carmine plover]

the punch?

[fleet zealot]

did you see lacerate in here today advocating that the punch combo was better dps than push attack combo spam

[median steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-jack-black-nod-nodding-approve-gif-5561693

yeah I get that

hope you feel better soon

[ivory marlin]

Why are you named after my lizard (pictured below)

[spare talon]

that may be a mk3 thing cuz i know you can punch while youre in the middle of the follow up attack so you can spam it
but i wouldnt know cuz i dont use the mk3

[carmine plover]

Why is your lizard named after me?

[ivory marlin]

Whos older

[carmine plover]

beautiful lizard btw

[ivory marlin]

She turns 3 next month

[spare talon]

sir this is a GECKO

[ivory marlin]

Yeah and her name is echo

[fleet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/winking-salamander-gif-11793291

[ivory marlin]

Much like this person whom is not my lizard

[median steeple]

the gooob

[carmine plover]

so it would appear

[ivory marlin]

Unless you are my lizard

[spare talon]

https://tenor.com/view/enough-gecko-lizard-shut-up-talk-gif-3440026276392589693

[carmine plover]

sweats nervously

[ivory marlin]

In which case you are much too young to have a phone

[median steeple]

it has attained sentience

[ivory marlin]

Not even 3 yet smh

[nimble fiber]

very cool

[carmine plover]

back on topic: how do I knife?

[ivory marlin]

Real

Idk my zealot is lvl 3

[carmine plover]

my peabrain is just M1 spamming hordes and heavy spamming into taggable things

[nimble fiber]

u feel better yet?

[ivory marlin]

No

[thorn imp]

Hold X to destroy it and play rashad

[lucid dune]

https://tenor.com/view/dodgewrench-dodgeball-gif-22028517

[ivory marlin]

I sneezed and it caused so much pain i started crying and collapsed onto floor

[visual stream]

That's about all you need plus spamming push attacks

[carmine plover]

my poor fingies 😦

when do I push people tho?

like do I go light light push or what do I do?

[fleet zealot]

push attack is when you hold your push

[lucid dune]

@carmine plover but more seriously...you'll need elite dodge skills, and sometimes mix pushes in with your headshot attacks to cc the enemy. an autoattack macro/mod helps too.

i usually do 3 lights then push

for horde

[fleet zealot]

so you get a special "push attack"

[lucid dune]

if i can't dodge them

[fleet zealot]

on knife, it's the biggest damage tool

[carmine plover]

I don't think I've ever done a push attack

just pushes

[lucid dune]

push attacks are huge single target dmg with knives

[fleet zealot]

you know what

i'm not even mad

[lucid dune]

you want to headshot everything too

lacerate is a trap

[fleet zealot]

you aren't even the first person today

who has said they don't use push attacks

so i'm just

deep breaths

[carmine plover]

how would I know I can hold push to do an attack?

[fleet zealot]

this explains all the randoms being shit in my game

it says in the tutorial i'm pretty sure

[lucid dune]

i thought psykhanium tutorial introduced push attacks =)

[hushed knoll]

What’s wrong

[median steeple]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/248972334327791616/1258896421797494794/Catsillyness_576x730_20240704_174846.mp4?ex=6689b628&is=668864a8&hm=ca622e481e6cb847dd0c26d4c1b22d5f7f2e1c43da1bfb1aeadc27c835d46c24&

[spare talon]

youd know when the tutorial tells you that you can do it

[ivory marlin]

Sick

[spare talon]

and makes you do it to progress

[ivory marlin]

And sneezing hurts

[carmine plover]

In that case it's my bad cause I did the tutorial 2 years or so ago

[lucid dune]

did you know doing a knife special attack punch then a light attack directly after does almost heavy attack damage?

it's a special combo

[carmine plover]

oh I see, it's a heavy without the windup

[spare talon]

but yeah push attacks can vary between an attack that isnt in its normal patterns to literally one a unique attack that can either be its best damaging attack or have unique followups

[carmine plover]

now I just need to somehow make all the buttons make sense to my hands so I can use it in combat

[lucid dune]

with two +3 stam curios you can spam push attacks like crazy when necessary =)

[spare talon]

the devs literally take their use into account when designing the weapon patterns

[fleet zealot]

realistically you only need one +3 stam curio

anymore cuts into your toughness budget

[lucid dune]

the l33ter u get, the more stam u want

[fleet zealot]

and toughness, like the US military, always needs that budget

then call me the least leet chainaxer of all time

[carmine plover]

the holding is gonna take a lot of getting used to

[fleet zealot]

i run +0 stam on all classes

even vet

[lucid dune]

ill sprint across the room and revive you while parrying 15 melee attacks =)

[fleet zealot]

stam more like

blam

wam

alakazam

[lucid dune]

stam is a skill multiplier

[fleet zealot]

bold of you to think i'm going down

[lucid dune]

multiples of a number lower than 1 reduces the number =P

[carmine plover]

found the autoswing mod

[fleet zealot]

stam is for people who are too scared about tanking a sniper shot to the face and somehow not getting broken from it

toughness do that for you

[carmine plover]

my fingies are saved

[lucid dune]

or just use 1 dodge

=D

one day you'll see the beauty of +stam

[spare talon]

stamina
more like
uhh
yeah

[carmine plover]

thems a lot of bars

[lucid dune]

I run 3x HP on ogryn, 2x stam 1x toughness zealot, 2x stam 1x hp vet, 1x stam 2x hp psyker.

[maiden path]

wtf

[lucid dune]

or martyr zealot that they sadly nerfed to hell =(

[maiden path]

warframe removed the item discounts

and now its all platinum discounts

fuck off

[lucid dune]

fuck warframe...i stopped playing that game/giving them money 5 years ago when i made a support ticket about not getting the rewards from the new endless missions that gave endo (the upgrade material) for the longer you played it when the host decided to quit after an hour. the cs rep just said i was "trying to get something for free" because they had no record of the game taking place. (on xbox) I'd spent about $300 on that game at the time. Didn't touch it since.

[maiden path]

u babyraged a game you enjoyed because you didnt get endo

[carmine plover]

host migration is still as bad as always btw

[maiden path]

u can get like 3k endo in 10 minutes with those new missions

host migration is fucking useless doe u right

[lucid dune]

it's more about the "you're a liar and you just want free stuff" comment from the customer service rep...

[maiden path]

i wouldntt quit but i'd b mad

i dont hate da game for that

[lucid dune]

Thought about taking it further but I didn't.

[maiden path]

i hate the customer service

and damn them all to hell

[median steeple]

I mean they hate you too

[maiden path]

no customer service loves me

[spare talon]

with a farming arena group you can get 4k in 1 minute

[maiden path]

im more mad theres no more item discounts

[lucid dune]

it's funny tho...since without customer complaints they wouldn't have a job there

[maiden path]

i dont wanna fucking spend real money just for some stupid coupon to work

gimme my item discounts so i can use my plat

i wanted dante!!

ive still got 180 plat saved up so I can get him with a 75% discount

[spare talon]

he's so easy to farm, what

[maiden path]

no!!

not if you run casuals!!

these fucks dont wanna have to do specific routes for his parts

[spare talon]

i literally farmed it with just me and my brother

just the two of us

we got him and his weapons in like 3 hours max

[lucid dune]

maybe it's good that i quit warframe then...might not be playing darktide now ;)

[maiden path]

u have communications..........

[lucid dune]

and how much would I have spent on it...

[spare talon]

i was watching youtube videos as i did it

[median steeple]

has anyone played chaos gate daemonhunters?

[maiden path]

u cannot make a premade group of casuals

do a route

i forget how to even get his parts cause the a b c thing is fucking stupid

[median steeple]

I have the strategy game ich

[spare talon]

we werent doing a route or anything
we just loaded in and played the gamemode

[maiden path]

b rotations

what the fuck do you mean

you literally cant get his parts without doing rotations

im sending god's grace unto your homestead

he's gonna blow your roof off and play hackey sack with your body

graah

[spare talon]

its disruption so after the first wave its always rotation c
not to mention each conduit gives you mats that you can use to buy the parts youre missing

and they are very generously priced

[maiden path]

i never want to play disruption after guass

gauss

horrible ass farm

disruptions not fun in the first place

[carmine plover]

Same energy as "I pray to super jesus and he will dronestrike you"

Boy am I glad that the last time I actively played was when Fortuna came out

and then I quit cause I'm not dealing with the Amp grind again

[maiden path]

i do not enjoy the warframes grind

why cant it just be 'erm do this mission, get resource from it, spend it at this merchant 2 buy the parts!'

i dont wanna do rotations!!

most of the time it is dat doe

atleast its not harrow

[carmine plover]

or doing Hydron for the 500th time

[fleet zealot]

huh

martyr zealot has been nothing but buffed

since launch

talent martyrdom is so much better and more understandable than launch martyrdom

[spare talon]

but but but marty evis with shred crit cdr!!!!!!!!

[fleet zealot]

i hope every person who ran crit chaxe a very cry your eyes out and stop touching my lovely weapon

[ivory marlin]

The grind gets worse and worse every update

Remember just needing to do relics and bosses for new frames

[carmine plover]

Is martyrdom actually usable? I keep reading everywhere that it's complete ass

(I played martyr heavy evis on release and I wanna go back)

Also on a completely unrelated note: how are the hammers? I find them incredibly fun but haven't touched them in a long time

[median steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/victor-saltzpyre-waiting-eating-chips-gif-3992659431153758708

Martyr is great if you love playing near the edge and stuff

[north sedge]

They're very wrong

[carmine plover]

TIL people on reddit are wrong. In other news: water is wet.

[fleet zealot]

it has it's downsides

it isn't good with things that rely on ability use like thunderhammer, since it's cdr option is so shit no one goes it

otherwise, it's the best stat stick boost in the game

just stack wound curios, let chip damage stack up

[carmine plover]

shame, attack speed is so good for the hammer tho

[fleet zealot]

it's amazing with things like crusher or chaxe

IJ does hammer better

inexorable judgement

backstab cdr as well, hammer has a combo for trash to farm backstab kills quickly

[carmine plover]

it does?

[median steeple]

Fuckkk I wish I screenshotted it but someone wrote a star wars intro level of text explaining how every nerf was bad

[fleet zealot]

yea

someone here has the clip

[fleet zealot]

nerfs bad obv, just buff

just buff

[carmine plover]

Do you go Fury + IJ then? Just charge everything in existence until it stops moving?

[fleet zealot]

hammer can go stealth or fury

[carmine plover]

Fury seems more fun with a slow weapon

[fleet zealot]

preference really, i prefer fotf pathing

but stealth has the bigger BIG HITs

once you start learning how to reliably hit the back of something's head

player too strong, buff enemies

what is power creep?

why is power creep bad for game? just get better at buffing

I HATE people like damn i can't even think no more

[spare talon]

so true
so so true

just buff the buffing

[fleet zealot]

how did we get twisted from "it's usually better to buff rather than nerf for player enjoyment in pve games" to "NEVER NERF AT ALL"

[carmine plover]

because people don't understand the concept of nuance

[fleet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/smiling-friends-dj-spit-get-out-of-my-head-charlie-pim-gif-25405188

[visual stream]

Just buff the entire enemy roster and every single weapon so that one weapon doesn't get nerfed and the meta abusers don't have to directly feel bad :^)

[open pollen]

Also, the meta only really permits a handful of "Optimal choices" so the number of nerfs ye should be doing should be minimal. Unless you're Ubisoft or Behavior and end up nerfing stuff that falls well below meta.

So the ratio of buffs to nerfs should be higher, no?

But I am also down for them buffing the enemies more myself. A little bummed they reverted the shooter changes, but I am glad they kept everything else.

[fleet zealot]

depends on the game state

before last round of nerfs, nah, player power is too high

now, it's a bit better, just need to keep hitting cdr sources and the top level outliers

[carmine plover]

Ubisoft and R6 Siege is a yikes

[visual stream]

Shooter change grew on me other than for ogryn, poor bastards got swiss cheese'd

[carmine plover]

they forgot how to buff

[fleet zealot]

then you can focus on buffing the lower tier shit

[visual stream]

I like the rager change if only they had better audio

[fleet zealot]

well r6 is pvp

[open pollen]

Indeed.

[fleet zealot]

that's just, a whole nother can of worms

league, despite being absolutely balancing clowns

[open pollen]

Hmm, needs more screaming

[median steeple]

R6 and DbD get more nerfs than buffs to try to keep a balance in a game which is hard to balance

[carmine plover]

now it's time for sleep, tomorrow I learn how to melee

[fleet zealot]

was correct on the fact it's more important to balance numbers around high skill and pro, while you balance lower skill via vibes and enjoyment

[median steeple]

R6 tries to nerf and buff at the same time to shake up the meta or to destroy something problematic

or they can nerf solis during prep phase

which idk

[fleet zealot]

i know that upsets some select people in this discord, but as for hard BP balancing, i think the game should be balanced around damnation first

[open pollen]

Also, might just be bias, but the last 5 or so matches I Auric QP'd into were non-Hishock and had competent teammates. I wonder if the difficulty spike chased folks away from Hishock and Auric in general?

[fleet zealot]

i hope so

[visual stream]

It seems like another shadow buff they made that they also didn't include in the "last patch's shadow buffs" patch notes was that dreg rager groups of 15+ are more common and that seems like a coded event. So maybe a battle cry like hounds get

[median steeple]

I'm glad that the tide of people leaving for Auric storm as slowed down

don't see them as much

I dislike DnD 2024

they have turned stuff into BAs and kind of done very little in other respects

augh it's bad

[visual stream]

The OneD&D thing or 5E?

[median steeple]

hey at least psi classes are getting reworked

OneDnD

[visual stream]

Ah so OneD&D

[fleet zealot]

same but on my hexblade pact blade warlock

ELDRITCH SMITE

[visual stream]

MrRhexx's lore videos made me wonder about what psionic stuff we're missing out on in 5E

[maiden path]

why wizard skeleton

skeletons cant be wizards

[median steeple]

I love playing warlock/fighter combos

[maiden path]

skeletons have to be necromancers or warlocks

[fleet zealot]

rn i'm playing ranger revised

[median steeple]

Bootleg stan in the house

[fleet zealot]

which holy shit

someone made ranger a good unique class

[visual stream]

Skeletons are wizards all the time

[maiden path]

THEY CANT'

NO

skeletons cant be wizards

[visual stream]

NECROMANCERS ARE A WIZARD SCHOOL

[maiden path]

a wizard would cast 'no flesh rottey'

nope

necromancy isnt allowed in mainstream magic

[obsidian prairie]

Thats what you think

[maiden path]

you have to be evil to use necromancy

[obsidian prairie]

Nuh uh

[visual stream]

Nuh uh

[maiden path]

yea sorry I forgot you guys went to a trashy wizard school off the coast lol

my family had me at hogwarts

[obsidian prairie]

A lot of weird spells belong to necromancy

[fleet zealot]

I'm playing a deepstalker ranger (Revised version)+ cleric of twilight multiclass

[maiden path]

sometimes it just pays to be rich

[visual stream]

I forgot you went to a private wizard school with daddy's money

[fleet zealot]

it's sooo nice

[maiden path]

i cant believe you guys had to touch shoulders with some skeletons

yuck

[ripe quest]

Healthmaxxing mfs w/ RF + BftE when a Crusher comes by and trades a measly 1/5th of your health to give you a full ult.

[open pollen]

Hell. Yeah.

[maiden path]

my dad is the head mage of the kingdom

your dad works at a mill

get fucked

[median steeple]

Fucking WRONG

[maiden path]

HE ISNT A REAL SKELETON ITS FAAAAAAAAAKE

FAAAAAAKE

[median steeple]

put some respect on my skeleton wizards

[maiden path]

LARPER

[open pollen]

Milling is a noble profession. Remember that the next time you're enjoying a nice hunk of bread.

[maiden path]

fucking stupid robots larping as egyptians

[median steeple]

I think beb is a dirty toaster fucker

[maiden path]

i shant need to enjoy bread while I can make my own with magic

i can't stand poor peoples hands polluting my bread

[maiden path]

nuh uh

check over oyur house im sending 300 fucking heavenly skybeams to obliterate your shack in the woods

[visual stream]

I'm going to place a glyph of warding on the holy water fountain at your school you rich bastard

[maiden path]

cyclops gonna squish bro

😭

[ripe quest]

Egyptians had gods that dictated their lives and deaths, Necrons were like "nah" then powernapped for a gajillion years like chads.

[maiden path]

a mimir

:snooze:

[median steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/lychguard-warhammer40k-necron-warhammer40000-wh40k-gif-19167218

[maiden path]

slugcat detected

[median steeple]

lych guard my beloved

[maiden path]

https://tenor.com/view/rain-world-lizard-slugcat-slug-cat-gif-15261126894680955935

[median steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/rainworld-scug-gooby-yellow-yellowsquares-gif-711474713443282018

[maiden path]

i still never beat rainworld

[visual stream]

I love lidards

[maiden path]

i realized i spent like two hours going to the wrong place

and quit

[visual stream]

I like pink ones

[maiden path]

then played hunter

[visual stream]

My favorite to befriend

[maiden path]

i hate all lizards

i never befriend them..

2 much work..

[visual stream]

Yet another racist beb moment

[maiden path]

i aint here to make a family or have lizard friends

im here to get shit done..

put that on a tshirt

[visual stream]

You spear 1 (one) of the fat flies and throw it at them and that's it

[median steeple]

need more games where we play as necrons ( I NEED MECHANICUS 2 NOW!!!!!!!!!!)

[maiden path]

then they get lizardmogged by some pink fuck and die instantly

i will commend the squids

that let u jump really high

i used those fucks to get over the impossible to jump bridge

[visual stream]

First it was Traveler-loving Cabal and now it's the cool neon lidards

[maiden path]

i dont trust the cabal

[median steeple]

beb the racist bed

[visual stream]

Next beb is gonna say an anti-cabalite dogwhistle

[maiden path]

entire people made up of conquesting evil doers

they only became nice because they would of got wiped out if they didnt

it is not genuine

[visual stream]

Nm they're just saying it out loud

[maiden path]

i fought those cabal fucks to retake the tower

why are they here

[visual stream]

They are friend shaped

[maiden path]

the iron lords dont stand yet the cabal do, that is the greatest injustice of the destiny universe

[visual stream]

https://tenor.com/view/lemonshark-shark-gif-21910770

[maiden path]

i dont mind the other guys though

[visual stream]

Me to the tower cabal

[maiden path]

the 4 armed guys

dont mind the hive

they stick to their guns

[visual stream]

Even though Oryx was a space Hitler that was going to wipe us out

Ok

[maiden path]

finger on the trigger

he is itching to kill some guardians

yet we let them stay

[maiden path]

it was for the lulz

u wouldnt get it

i forgot my titan looked like varg vikerns

or whateverhgis name was

[coarse birch]

like the guy from burzum

[maiden path]

im the guy from hatred

my name is not important........

[coarse birch]

that was Varg Vikernes yeah

[hushed agate]

"-10000 points to gryffindor"

[coarse birch]

that being said why would you make yourself look like Varg

[visual stream]

one of the games ever

[maiden path]

i didnt intentioally

its not my fault!!

tell varg not to look like that!!

[coarse birch]

i was moreso just concerned you were using him as someone you look up to lol

[hushed agate]

Fs is going on vacation again???

Goddamnit

They would not last 3 years in america

[coarse birch]

there are a lot of vacations in Sweden yeah

[maiden path]

no!!!

[north sedge]

Right? I can't believe it, they had vacation at christmas that's enough!

[maiden path]

its cause i have his name on the brain cause i was looking at shitty black metal

[north sedge]

I wish i were in sweden

[visual stream]

Workers having good benefits, I fucking hate it (I'm actually just jealous)

[hushed agate]

I want my updates now now NOW!!

[coarse birch]

yeah thats fine was just wondering

[north sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/lord-of-the-rings-no-nope-nah-never-gif-16208499

[coarse birch]

Burzum riffs and whatnot werent actually too bad if you can get past it sounding like shit production wise but the vocals are wack even for black metal

[maiden path]

i dont like black metal in the first place

[coarse birch]

its alright on its own but i prefer it mixed into stuff

Blackened Death metal/deathgrind/deathcore/grindcore etc

[visual stream]

yet another moment from our racist local

[maiden path]

i cant be racist i like death metal!!

[open pollen]

I hope we get more infested enemies. Maybe some plauge priests or beasts or maybe a burster variant thats just full of biting flies that swarm if you shoot their bellies open, dead space style. Or maybe infested champion versions of existing elites, because we donnae have any infested elites. But like, a gunner but the unarmored bits are infested.

[coarse birch]

death metal is likely not a perfect defense here

[open pollen]

Are the frogs from boltgun on the table or are they "too powerful"

[coarse birch]

even if its not as controversial as black metal

[open pollen]

I have a shirt in death metal font that reads "Tummy Ache Survivor".

[zealous basin]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/621255691772100638/1256334416100196472/IMG_4624.gif

[maiden path]

when you say death metal font i think cannibal corpse album cover

so just dead babies and sans font that says 'tummy ache survivor'

[coarse birch]

i think most people would

they are the best known death metal band

[zealous basin]

wrong

dethklok is right there

[open pollen]

Its the font thats really hard to read

[coarse birch]

album covers being a reason

how hard we talking

like

slam metal

or deathcore

[zealous basin]

were talking shitgrind you moron

[open pollen]

I will take a pic when I get home

[zealous basin]

keep up

[coarse birch]

now your just making stuff up smh

[maiden path]

deathlok graaaaah

[zealous basin]

yeah and

its a new genre i just invented it

its called shitgrind cuz i take a shit on my guitar and then grind it in

[maiden path]

klnives check

rope check

chains check

[open pollen]

I was once told the quality of a metal band is inversely proportional to how easy their name is to read.

[coarse birch]

somewhat true

[zealous basin]

look thats just a moderate correlation

not a definitive factor

[coarse birch]

a lot of the best ones are in fact semi hard to read

however i find slam metal to be

ok

and they are the hardest to read

[zealous basin]

i only fuck with djent (real genre that exists)

[coarse birch]

you know it does technically exist but it depends on who you ask

[zealous basin]

no one wants to be it but

it does technically exist true

[coarse birch]

i think people are leaning towards no at this point though

[zealous basin]

god

[maiden path]

i only fuck with weird al parodies

[zealous basin]

an old polyphia tune came on the other day

and i actually started laughing at how bad it was

what was it again

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZiZe5lwph4&t=42s

its so funny man

[coarse birch]

although i also dont hear it called math core or w/e

anymore

[zealous basin]

what were they thinking in 2014 man

[coarse birch]

ive always found prog a bit

odd

its not bad but

[zealous basin]

hey thems fighting words

[coarse birch]

i dont dislike it

[zealous basin]

i main prog metal tbh

as far as metal goes

[coarse birch]

although im sure as shit not listening to a 40 minute song

[prime snow]

snoop dogg

[zealous basin]

well yeah fuck that thats stupid

no one has ever recorded a 40 minute song worth listening to

[coarse birch]

incoming dream theatre fans

[zealous basin]

[open pollen]

Firant showed me clowncore once. It was aight.

I liked it

[coarse birch]

i also havent listened to a ton of prog in its defense

need to listen to it more

[zealous basin]

clowncore is louis cole right

louis cole is my #1

favorite musician ever

[fleet zealot]

see prog means something entirely different when you are 🏳️‍⚧️

[coarse birch]

i think opeth is the main band ive listened to but it didnt catch me much

[zealous basin]

i've seen that dude live many times

in many forms

oh shit sam gendel is the other guy?

i didnt know that

thats so hype

[open pollen]

Have you listened to in the court of the crimson king?

[coarse birch]

nah but im aware of it

on my list

[open pollen]

Nice

[zealous basin]

man i wish i could play guitar

i can play chords xd

[coarse birch]

yeah ive been tempted to learn

all the songs id want to learn would probably be hard as shit

but maybe one day

[misty nova]

Power chords

053

???
Profit

[polar nexus]

So fucking good

Also, big fan of starless

[opaque island]

is it a known bug that changing your audio output mid game causes the audio to bug out/completely dissapear?

[maiden path]

so much swag its dripping out my ovaries

or whatever keesha said

[opaque island]

has the lost ferret been returned?

[slender sigil]

what are the two blessings for chainswords?

[fleet zealot]

Ask cole lol

He’s the one who worked there im just the ferret poster

[fleet zealot]

Rampage + savage sweep (or wrath on mk13)

Could sub in shred for crit builds

[median steeple]

tried hairspray for the first time and man my hair has finally has been tamed

[slender sigil]

whjat should I change here?

[fleet zealot]

Lucky u

My hair is wild

[fleet zealot]

Bloodletter to wrath

[fleet zealot]

Groaners poxwalkers off

[fleet zealot]

Dstrike to wrath carapace to something

Flak is always solid

Then maniac elites etc

[slender sigil]

thank you

which one is better in your opinion?

[fleet zealot]

Not sure you can check pins or test personally in psykanium

Looking for breakpoints against melee enemies specifically

Pins will def save you the time

Weapon table

[slender sigil]

is 5% crit trash?

[fleet zealot]

Yeah

Comparatively to 25% to an important armor type or 10% to all elites

If it wasn’t in such an important spot it would be okay

But flakiac is the standard safe pick but unyielding and unarmored can be helpful as well on chsword

[obsidian prairie]

Soloing the gas and trappers as well as the next rinda ambush

With a knife

Only to crash out

After doing both

[zealous basin]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1247595536442462260/1257845328284225647/games30min.gif?=&width=228&height=172

[median steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/yakuza-akiyama-shun-sleep-yakuza4-gif-22796472

[maiden path]

he aint shinada

get this outta here

https://tenor.com/view/shinada-mf-shinada-fone-fone-mf-fone-yakuza-gif-27070988

https://tenor.com/view/shinada-yakuza5-tatsuo-shinada-gif-22602597

[visual stream]

waiter, more nishiki

need kiryu to go back in time and he just lives out his life being best buddies with nishiki

[maiden path]

waiter

kill nishiki.......

[visual stream]

evil wtf

[maiden path]

https://tenor.com/view/nishiki-yakuza-akira-nishikiyama-gif-26397718

[wraith cipher]

so ive had this tucked away so long ago

its pretty bonkers now

[maiden path]

PHEW

almost got the exotic cipher from xurology

21 vanguards is a fucking pain

[bitter anvil]

https://tenor.com/view/yakuza-payday-payday-2-meme-dallas-gif-1440983937896532967

@maiden path

[drowsy steppe]

....one of my fav prog metal song's 16 minutes

[maiden path]

i neeeeed a medic bag

[coarse birch]

i do somewhat get the appeal cause a lot of the time it might as well be 4 songs in one

[ivory marlin]

Still gray smh

[patent patrol]

What blessings do people use on the kantrael shotgun again?

specifically non-crit probably

[ember yew]

No Respite + whatever best DMG blessing you get

[patent patrol]

ah. Damn. This is the one on the limited acquisition thing

[ember yew]

skip then, no respite was always listed as mandatory and plus there's craft change in 2 months+

[patent patrol]

I can't wait for the crafting change.

I'mma boost up that first target so hard

LOL.

[ember yew]

yeah, i probably sold a lot of stuff (before) that could be useful with crafting update

but it is what it is

[patent patrol]

what's the max base stats you can get?

[ember yew]

hard to say

but the thing on crafting screens

[patent patrol]

I meant rn

like

off rolls.

not the new crafting system

is the cap 380?

currently?

[ember yew]

yes

so you can 80-80-80-80-60

but crafting update makes it HIGHER

[patent patrol]

Ok so assuming the cap stays the same this is still gonna suck a bit 💀

[patent patrol]

Does it?

I assume we're never gonna go past 80% stats tho.

lol.

[ember yew]

the numbers of stats on screens (my previous sentence)

was higher

than 380

it just questionable

how far we can go

[ember yew]

no past 380 but bumping other stats closer to 80

https://clan.akamai.steamstatic.com/images//38365286/f1a83420efa5044482005748d892db0e0c161430.jpg

384

plus 2 points means

386 would be new max maybe

[patent patrol]

or maybe 400 at most

lol

Ngl tho it's gonna suck to unlock all my blessings again

for some of my weapons

lol

well, I know you'll get a boost but

[ember yew]

you dont need to if you have all or most of them learned

that's why im gathering all I-II from brunt now

[patent patrol]

well my THammer has a good few but not all of them.

[ember yew]

and IV and III's for my main weps

[patent patrol]

or my laspistol.

I'm just wondering how slow the progress will be.

[ember yew]

you should gather a lot more in the next 2+ months

[ember yew]

well it wont matter much if its guaranteed now