#zealot-class
median steeple
woeful basin
I don't want to see the 40k gaurdsmen loona again
Yeah but you now have the power to cover it up with buff men
ivory marlin
https://tenor.com/view/its-pure-art-robin-james-very-artistic-so-creative-gif-24...
Wanna see the version i drew before it was animated?
cerulean moth
woeful basin
median steeple
Wanna see the version i drew before it was animated?
yes please
hollow lintel
Wanna see the version i drew before it was animated?
depends
will it get you banned?
cerulean moth
https://tenor.com/view/gachimuchi-gif-20116037
tik toc
ivory marlin
Insane freak do you like kissing men?
ivory marlin
will it get you banned?
I hope not
median steeple
https://img.ifunny.co/videos/1f783e383001bb700532334527cc4d66ee632a1cd4785616710...
I love this meme
hollow lintel
if you're not sure, don't post it
median steeple
all the way back to november 2022
ivory marlin
yes please
Want it in dms so i dont get banned?
woeful basin
Its def one of the classics
Sounds like a yes to me
cerulean moth
NO
woeful basin
Boykisser alert
median steeple
Want it in dms so i dont get banned?
sure
woeful basin
Boykisser alert
median steeple
woeful basin
Wee woo wee woo
woeful basin
Anyone can fall to any god
spare talon
cerulean moth
woeful basin
fall to me then
Implying you accomplish anything close to a livable life, let alone godhood
median steeple
HOLY FUCK
vestal pine
median steeple
ivory marlin
God nerfed me by making me quit art
woeful basin
God was actually just telling you to finish all your projects
patent patrol
I can't tell which one is better stat wise. Obviously the second one will PROBABLY manage to get bricked (I hope not) but just stat wise.
ivory marlin
God was actually just telling you to finish all your projects
Nah cuz imagine if i drew that amogus picture without being hella out of tune
patent patrol
One's better all around and one has below average first target and everything else is good aside from defense.
cerulean moth
YOUR BELOW AVERAGE
woeful basin
Says you
ivory marlin
:(
ivory marlin
Insane freak that wasn’t very nice
ivory marlin
Its ok i forgive you
woeful basin
Pussy, should have stuck to the bit
cerulean moth
YEAH HAIR
ivory marlin
Insane freak isnt a bit thats just him
patent patrol
I can't tell which one is better stat wise. Obviously the second one will PROBAB...
Ok but in all seriousness
royal grove
Question for the new mace, I assume the stun on block blessing doesn’t protect you from crusher and mauler overheads?
ivory marlin
Jellypost face reveal
cerulean moth
it stuns them but u eat shit for it eyuah
royal grove
What I thought, at best apply the stun but not block the dead
zealous basin
maiden path
i need the gear..
maiden path
da swag..
zealous basin
im kinda dripped rn
ivory marlin
Hi flip
maiden path
i only need 1 mor engram and im going 2 bed...
zealous basin
matadoxia gang
ivory marlin
Damn
jagged ice
so heavy attacks don't get their heavy damage unless their fully charged?
(this is without Thrust)
ivory marlin
its me.......
Smash
obsidian prairie
so heavy attacks don't get their heavy damage unless their fully charged?
(this...
Heavies get full damage as soon as the register as heavies
You can release them as soon as possible with no downside
Thrust just adds benefit for fully charging attacks
hidden vessel
Fully charging heavy is bad unless u got a benefit to utilize them; or are holding onto a heavy ur about to use cuz charging up one before next to a dude is aight, but even still u release once it can connect
ivory marlin
Found a bug on my walk home from work
visual stream
Wow they really changed that area in Hab Dreyko before the Hab zone
next egret
Wow they really changed that area in Hab Dreyko before the Hab zone
Hab dreyko has a bug
Invisible wall where stairs are after the drop down but before the tree check point
I'm not sure how long it's been there tho
spare talon
maiden path
countershade fucks
actually just wearing lammeller armor
the mongolians wore that
how im pulling up to the function
median steeple
It was Chinese later Mongolians adopted it
Like they adopted many things
Like siege masters from conquered peoples
Lamaller is cooler tho
ripe quest
serene geyser
Tried out all three bottom nodes for crusher
I like martyrdom cause stun grenades can stop a wipe
Also ran run n gun Bistol with puncture but I think I like surgical better for boss weakspotting? Idk
maiden path
i need the last word
the weapon
ingame
tis stupid you can only get it with an exotic cipher
delicate shadow
destiny 2 is stupid
ripe quest
spare talon
I LOVE CAR
ripe quest
I LOVE CAR
faint prairie
How we feelin on the bolt pistol
ivory marlin
What is this mysterious creature
maiden path
How we feelin on the bolt pistol
makes me
ripe quest
What is this mysterious creature
It's Car, from the hit game Garn47
maiden path
happy!
ivory marlin
Beb
ivory marlin
ivory marlin
It's Car, from the hit game Garn47
Ah ok
faint prairie
faint prairie
cowboy hat on a robot
Monkey helmet
polar nexus
How we feelin on the bolt pistol
I like it a lot, it has it's shortcomings but but you can play with it
spare talon
i like the one where he slowly makes a silly face
faint prairie
I like it a lot, it has it's shortcomings but but you can play with it
It feels really slow, but I like the movement with it
polar nexus
Ads is not slow, also momentum affects attack speed
I have been rocking taxe + db shotgun the last few days, it's a good quick swap combo
ember yew
I have been rocking taxe + db shotgun the last few days, it's a good quick swap ...
i went to swing tax7 a bit
the 2nd light still whiffs sometimes
just not as extreme as it was
so they didnt got rid of that completely
seems like it has less range
polar nexus
The question is how the hell did they introduced that?
ember yew
i'd say it's still worse than II or IV
polar nexus
I do a lot of pa + heavies so I didn't feel the problem that much
polar nexus
like it was before
I find it strange that I do a shit ton more DMG when I am using not meta weapons (like taxe or bolt pistol/gun)
ember yew
I find it strange that I do a shit ton more DMG when I am using not meta weapons...
an old one
they've been pretty good (just people sleeping on them) for many months, aside from 7, which had atrocious hitboxes
still can't say it's entirely fixed, but i'm not gonna use it anyway
polar nexus
they've been pretty good (just people sleeping on them) for many months, aside f...
Yeah people are definitely sleeping on them. What the hell was that run? A 1h long run?
ember yew
Yeah people are definitely sleeping on them. What the hell was that run? A 1h lo...
a 36 minute run with rescuing 3 people at once
2 times
hence damage spike (as solo)
trail herald
idk if its just me but does anyone else feel like you can drag like in chiv or mordhau
it feels like i hit more with my tigrus when i drag
polar nexus
still can't say it's entirely fixed, but i'm not gonna use it anyway
I am not feeling the Saul hype. It feels like low mobility taxes with different blessings (less power/crit and more DMG/cc) and an electro schtick
polar nexus
it feels like i hit more with my tigrus when i drag
It's the same with a lot of weapons
polar nexus
You can try it in the psykhanium with every weapon using sweeping heavies
polar nexus
Or lights yeah
trail herald
polar nexus
I was thinking about the claw
trail herald
thanks for the info
ember yew
I am not feeling the Saul hype. It feels like low mobility taxes with different ...
Yeah, Smaul feels like a much worse version of crusher, the electric gimmick is nice, but you want to kill things and not CC them, when you figts 4 crushers, 3 maulers, 3 bulwarks, 5 zerks and 30 trash mobs, it's not a weapon i want to use and these situations are now common
polar nexus
I prefer agni
trail herald
ah
polar nexus
Based on the moveset
trail herald
i like the push attack on the the other one
polar nexus
But you can get more single target dmg by chaining overhead heavies on indi
trail herald
true
polar nexus
i like the push attack on the the other one
Push attack is nice on agni as well
But humm, I could to the same with a taxe. And better mobility.
ember yew
i would give it a try if it had wrath or shred (it's a good finesse wep, but no shred is ffs)
but i dont like current blessing list
trail herald
i would give it a try if it had wrath or shred (it's a good finesse wep, but no ...
brother
it has shred
also idk if rampage is still bugged
frosty herald
The saul
trail herald
yea
frosty herald
spare talon
also idk if rampage is still bugged
hasnt been for quite a bit
burnt granite
keep or scrap?
That is 99% a god roll
hidden verge
guys, look! I found a scabbard for my heavy sword!
trail herald
That is 99% a god roll
keep pointblank?
burnt granite
keep or scrap?
Change sprint to maniac
Point blank to deadly accurate
trail herald
burnt granite
Unarmored is good allows you to hit 1hit BP on dreg gunners without major talent investment
trail herald
maiden path
serene geyser
what's a good crit build weapon
tough crowd at 5am
oh maybe i wanna run evisc
time to investigate
serene geyser
Dclaw hmm
What gaps do I need to fill running dclaw
What does it suck against
Parrying an overhead does sound fun….
cerulean moth
u still eat the damage so watch
frozen glen
you can parry an overhead without taking damage
frozen glen
the timing is just tighter
cerulean moth
LISTEN TO ME
maiden path
its not even tight
vestal pine
i mean its tight
maiden path
can still fuc it up and live
vestal pine
yeah
maiden path
my cay cey isnt woring
vestal pine
but no stamina
serene geyser
Damn y’all were lying in the rafters huh
maiden path
cuh cuey isnt wor cuh ing
serene geyser
The trick is to be wrong to get engagement I see
spare talon
@serene geyser the devils claws weakness is damage against armor
vestal pine
damage against flak which is 60% enemies
spare talon
it has pretty good horde clear, okay single target, but it can make up its single target with how damaging its parry is
vestal pine
cant do shit on carapace
spare talon
parrying carapace is only decent if its a crit, so its only worth it if youve got a lot of it or have just used fotf
its also worth noting that the devils claw has pretty good finesse, so crits are worth looking into
vestal pine
fotf dualist parry can oneshot crushers on the head
which si fun
but most likely no dualist which means 2/3 health
spare talon
but is unreliable for taking on multiple
vestal pine
most things are when taking on 10 crushers
calm salmon
yes
spare talon
mfs mom messaged on discord
she talks in a few discord servers actually
serene geyser
Ok what’s a good crit weapon that isn’t kinda bad most of the time
spare talon
any weapon that has a finesse modifier + crusher
serene geyser
Tyty
frosty herald
Ok what’s a good crit weapon that isn’t kinda bad most of the time
The knives have a 1.9x crit damage modifier
spare talon
The knives have a 1.9x crit damage modifier
It's bigger than that
serene geyser
is mk3 still good or do i want the new one now?
frosty herald
It's bigger than that
Oh?
spare talon
The mk6 has a little less damage in exchange for having sweeps to hit a few more targets
serene geyser
probs mk3 for invis shenanigans then
spare talon
probs mk3 for invis shenanigans then
It really is just personal preference
My knife build uses invis and I use the mk6
spare talon
Mk6 and mk3 respectively
The upper stat is light attacks and the lower is heavy attacks @frosty herald
serene geyser
oh it's the same for heavies hmm
spare talon
hmm my bleed build runs momentum and not piety
State your source of bleed and you may have the privilege of staying alive
serene geyser
im not a lacerate user
spare talon
serene geyser
seems like im gonna go mk6 and blazing piety
ty all
and knives
gotta redo this shit
it's all wack
spare talon
oh it's the same for heavies hmm
The actual base damage for the heavy attacks is a little lower on the mk6 though, but not enough to stop being a beast
serene geyser
yeeeeeehaw
uncut pivot
i wanna roll the double barrel shotty, im poor on plasteel so it will be only blue. Zealot or veteran? Thinking of trying the vet with combat specialist so you always have one in the chamber. But then Im playing vet and I cant kill anything 15m away or more which feels... illegal? But perfectly fine for zealot.
serene geyser
yeah and cleave heavies are pretty goated
spare talon
So you can crit nuke
Have you seen my beast of nurgle clip with riposte precog
frosty herald
Not yet
spare talon
serene geyser
i wanna roll the double barrel shotty, im poor on plasteel so it will be only bl...
its fine on both but if you take always prepared node for weapon specialist build with the idea that you're gonna be single shotting it (i.e. both barrels blessing is a little meh)
opal tide
serene geyser
Have you seen my beast of nurgle clip with riposte precog
no
serene geyser
what's that combo you're doin
spare talon
thats the push attack
uncut pivot
its fine on both but if you take always prepared node for weapon specialist buil...
that is the idea. Ill be melee 95% of the time and using the shotgun to mix up in between. From playing around with a grey one on my zealot the switch times are very good
serene geyser
yeah it's pretty good at that
spare talon
it has a nearly identical if not exactly identical damage profile as heavy attacks
serene geyser
it's pretty decent overall
spare talon
and comes out to be a little more dps than only heavies, but at the cost of tons of stamina
this is true for both knife marks
spare talon
it has a nearly identical if not exactly identical damage profile as heavy attac...
the mk6 has that stab, and the mk3 has and overhead swing, but they both have this same trait
vestal pine
for whatever reason
spare talon
i personally prefer the stab yeah
vestal pine
i use mk3's punch-stab though
serene geyser
yeah losing the stab down of mk3 is sad but if the push is a stab it's probably similar in terms of dopamine release
chaining heavies on mk3 feels so good
spare talon
the mk6 takes a little more getting used to tho
because its heavy attacks are sweep>sweep>stab
and its light attacks are only sweeps
serene geyser
is the idea to block cancel after two heavies in horde or can i just ignore that
also should I run perfectionist on stealth or is 6 more seconds more valuable
spare talon
6 seconds is more valuable, in addition to NOT extending the cooldown
serene geyser
kk ty
spare talon
The sheer fact that that node does that makes it DOA on anything that isn't exclusively a boss nuking build
At least imo
serene geyser
this look fine / I got 4 pts left
calm salmon
this look fine / I got 4 pts left
where shield of contempt
serene geyser
?
anoint in blood non-negotiable with the bistol you need it to one-shot shotgunners
dance of death also goated with bistol
bistol on zealot is way better than bistol on vet
with puncture + maniac damage you can one shot a trapper to the body
lean lark
bistol on zealot is way better than bistol on vet
wrong
bolt pistol isnt better on zealot than on vet
serene geyser
R u a deadly accurate + surgical truther
serene geyser
but then you're not running run n gun
serene geyser
but deadly accurate surgical is good too
wrong
lean lark
why would you use run and gun
vestal pine
6 seconds is more valuable, in addition to NOT extending the cooldown
does that have any BP tho
serene geyser
why would you use run and gun
try anoint in blood + dance of death + run n gun
vestal pine
should i run DB with doublebarrel + runngun
serene geyser
when db exists
because you can also use the bistol as a shit revolver if you need to
spare talon
Plus second wind in general is just huge
Especially since knifes main way of avoiding damage is dodging, and damn is the knife good at dodging (hey wow you proc duellist at the same time that way)
serene geyser
You reaaaally want duellist with the knife
is this better
spare talon
is this better
Move the toughness on kill to second wind
vestal pine
You reaaaally want duellist with the knife
what do you think you dont need dualist tho
spare talon
what do you think you dont need dualist tho
This statement is incomprehensible
serene geyser
i lose shield of contempt and sustained assault how bad is that
vestal pine
This statement is incomprehensible
ok fine uh
twbs duelist anoint in blood scourge if you can only use 1 of the following what would you take
spare talon
i lose shield of contempt and sustained assault how bad is that
SoC isn't really needed on knife cuz the goal is you won't be getting hit much if at all
spare talon
ok fine uh
twbs duelist anoint in blood scourge if you can only use 1 of the fol...
Twbs
vestal pine
...huh
spare talon
I think anoint is overrated
vestal pine
suprised you didnt pick duelist
manic ginkgo
What is the best with the bolter ? not the pistol bolter
spare talon
Scourge is build specific
Duellist is sorta weapon specific
But twbs is universal
serene geyser
What is the best with the bolter ? not the pistol bolter
probably a weapon that handles most things cause you ain't hot swapping
spare talon
Any weapon that doesn't have good finesse
Cuz duellist wouldn't be increasing it as much
spare talon
Like yeah duellist is a damage increase, but its not really worth it on a weapon that only gets like a 15% total damage increase from headshots from it while its active
When that point could be spend on something like sustained assault
Or another toughness node
spare talon
Vs duellist increasing a knife crit headshot by fucking like 80% total
serene geyser
i read somewhere that dualist is the single biggest damage increase node for finesse weapons
everybody just sorta says anything about this game tho so fact check that
spare talon
It is
Finesse weapons deal anywhere from 1.5x to 3x damage to the head or with a crit
And duellist increases the bonus damage you get from headshots and crits
AND crit headshots, it doubles up
serene geyser
love that both maul weapons are finesse weapons (eeven though crusher doesn't have the stat)
bonk
spice flame
should I switch to the bolter instead? I have surgical IV now and pinning fire III and Cavalcade III
spare talon
Though it's not a flat 50% to the final number, due to how the math on it works, the result is still substantial for 1 talent
serene geyser
should I switch to the bolter instead? I have surgical IV now and pinning fire I...
do you want to use the bolter instead?
spice flame
I don't mind
ember yew
should I switch to the bolter instead? I have surgical IV now and pinning fire I...
change barrage into Fire Frenzy
spare talon
(The math behind it is also why the weakspot and crit perks at 10% are actual dogshit)
spice flame
change barrage into Fire Frenzy
I'll check if I have
I just trying to find best weapon for zealot
serene geyser
best weapon is the revolver everyone all together now
ember yew
I just trying to find best weapon for zealot
best is subjectable, depends on your melee choice and situation, graia can kill 10 to 14 ragers without reload
serene geyser
best is subjectable, depends on your melee choice and situation, graia can kill ...
but the revolver can kill infinite ragers in 1 bullet 🤓
lean lark
I just trying to find best weapon for zealot
depends on what you want your ranged to do
spice flame
best is subjectable, depends on your melee choice and situation, graia can kill ...
I use antax axe
lean lark
do you want it to kill armored enemies? do you want it to kill flesh? do you want to kill bosses?
spare talon
but the revolver can kill infinite ragers in 1 bullet 🤓
Only 6
lean lark
theres a wep for everrything
spare talon
That's it's cleave cap
spice flame
if I use antax axe I might need a ranged that kill bosses and hard armor
lean lark
bolter is a good option then
spare talon
30 ragers in one clip graia owned
Yknow what can actually kill a theoretical infinite amount of ragers in one shot though
serene geyser
Yknow what can actually kill a theoretical infinite amount of ragers in one shot...
me
spare talon
A throwing knife
serene geyser
KNIVES PIERCE?
lean lark
Yknow what can actually kill a theoretical infinite amount of ragers in one shot...
any weapon with brutal momentum
grizzled aspen
...knives pierce???
grizzled aspen
I know you can do some janky shit with the knife hitbox but I didn't know they pierce.
serene geyser
that's so cool
spare talon
With a shotgun with scattershot and manstopper, you can give it near ensured crits, and manstopper gives them """increased""" cleave
grizzled aspen
Basically the knife hitbox lingers for like .2s after impact so if something manages to get exactly where it was, you can get multikills.
spare talon
And by increased it means infinite
south folio
Basically the knife hitbox lingers for like .2s after impact so if something man...
no
it just has a bit of cleave, and you won't be doing that w/o manstopper
it's not like ogryn's rock
spare talon
Knives have an actual cleave value
They won't go past 1 elite
But they can hit an elite through 1 poxwalker
grizzled aspen
Then fatshark mustve been drunk yesterday because I got a rager kill without ever doing anything to it.
I threw a knife at a bruiser and the rager that rounded the corner died to the knife.
serene geyser
They won't go past 1 elite
But they can hit an elite through 1 poxwalker
agri revolver humiliated again
spare talon
Ok it's 5:30 am
I should sleep
serene geyser
sidenote to nobody in particular i asked about exploding randomly on damnation with my crusher build when I could carry heresy fine and got told to stick to heresy to work on fundamentals. the secret is starting most of my combos with push attack.
grizzled aspen
Good practice right there. Keeps you as the aggressor vs hordes.
serene geyser
yeah and you don't get randomly toughness broken from trash that's not on your screen and instagibbed
never had to do that in 4 not sure what exactly about 5 made it so common
grizzled aspen
Just be sure to watch your stamina.
spare talon
yeah and you don't get randomly toughness broken from trash that's not on your s...
You could always just dodge them
serene geyser
i do a lot of dodging
grizzled aspen
Really, really not good to get your guard broken right in front of a horde.
serene geyser
yeah i put stam regen on my curios too
grizzled aspen
That's not really necessary.
serene geyser
but that was the big gap in my game not pushing
grizzled aspen
I was just meaning if you sprint up to a horde you'll be lacking stamina for push attacks.
serene geyser
yeah that's a huge L
grizzled aspen
Better to pick the ground you fight the horde on and have full stamina.
(stairs are not a good place to fight)
serene geyser
not constantly sprinting is sad
also crusher pa explodes heads and combos into the ultra stagger sweep heavy
the moveset on the crusher is so good
wish there were a damage variant of it
grizzled aspen
It does sit in a weird territory for sure.
serene geyser
i guess ironhelm sorta
grizzled aspen
If you want to look at it like it's a thunder hammer, then it's the "light" thunder hammer.
serene geyser
thammer only damaging 3 targets normally is not what i want out of a 2H bonk weapon
grizzled aspen
The medium would the ironhelm and the heavy would be the crucis.
serene geyser
sweep damage bonkstick that i don't have to charge
shock maul would be it but it's 1H
grizzled aspen
Shock mauls are excellent weapons, don't sleep on them.
serene geyser
oh im not i just want it to be a big weapon
grizzled aspen
I've been using one in place of my hsword when I get bored of using it and it feels so good.
serene geyser
im a big proponent of switching it up often
wish it weren't so goddamn grind intensive tho
also wish you didn't need all 4 rng mods and a good damage roll on the bistol to get it to do what i want it to do
losing my mind rolling this goddamn thing
do you even need flesh tearer on knife or am i better off rolling precog with uncanny
frozen glen
uncanny and precog are bis
frozen glen
bleed "build" is just slapping uncanny and flesh tearer on a knife
royal vortex
bleed build is when u construct ur house out of the gored remains of ur enemies
serene geyser
yeah but why do that anyway
serene geyser
i see
serene geyser
bleed build is lacerate
you and me got similar ideas of how to handle ourselves in here
vestal pine
no im armed with malding and inherent hate of zealot or something idk
serene geyser
Why hate zealot when Psyker explodes stuff you’re trying to melee
it is my personal mission to kill everything with a blue halo
vestal pine
its a joke cause i keep saying zealot is dead cause he was nerfed when psyker/vet wasnt
kekw
serene geyser
don't go talking like that around the vets
vestal pine
aint stopping until the next patch drops
im still quite hyped for itemization
the new blessings were quite unique
serene geyser
if i can get them without endless casino i'll be a happy camper
steep flame
is that event thingy still going?
vestal pine
just get a ogryn with pickaxe
serene geyser
ok i got a knife build a hammer build a shmaul build and a crusher build i think last will be evisc
vestal pine
does everything for you just shoot the hsooters for them kek
vestal pine
because all the pickaxe ogryns got murdered by shooters
kek
i say zealot is dead but the new patch indirectly blew ogryn to smithereens if anything
serene geyser
i do see a ton of them running shield
vestal pine
shooters are deadlier than ever but ogryn being a hunk of mussle cant dodge much and just has to eat the salvo
so the solution is shields
serene geyser
at least shield is fun
i love the bash on it
stay tf down
and you can meme with plant
steep flame
7 more days yeah
how do i even check?
serene geyser
hold tab in the hub
serene geyser
how do i even check?
.
steep flame
thx bestie
serene geyser
npnp
evisc with momentum is probably best in slot
damn everybody must be getting ready for work
stable cypress
i say zealot is dead but the new patch indirectly blew ogryn to smithereens if a...
It didn't blow ogryn to smithereens its just the first time they've had to give a shit about trash shooters since launch t5 difficulty
vestal pine
It didn't blow ogryn to smithereens its just the first time they've had to give ...
i'd want to say this buy minding one's own business meleeing some ragers and shooters walking up to you and dumping entire toughness with 1 salvo is problematic
unless you're saying that i should have predicted said shooter roll up the alley aroudn the corner
gunners and reapers kinda do the same still
reapers got more exciting tho
stable cypress
Yeah idk what to say except be more mindful of positioning/situation or run more toughness gen stuff like cstrike
slow stag
is marty the build to run still ?
vestal pine
nothing changed about it so yes
vast basin
It's never been the build to run, but it is a build
stable cypress
yeah p much, all keystones still good
slow stag
i am smooth brain want hit heretics for god emp what do i run
vestal pine
watch out for shooters is my advice
slow stag
so swift certainty is certain?
stable cypress
second wind can help a lot with toughness sustain when diving
slow stag
what would u guys run with HS ? crit build?
slow stag
then take inexorable with it?
acoustic dune
do you think theyll ever had like a mission type event
where the hub get attack
and people gotta defend it?
steep flame
whats the better saul?
lusty oar
goodman
steep flame
i was gonna make that joke
steep flame
and people gotta defend it?
that'd be schweet
atomic sparrow
what else should i change on this agni?
steep flame
make it a 8 player mission
misty nova
Yeah, that's nice
I'll still avoid low levels, not enough enemies to burn, maim and kill
stone fern
where else am i gonna do 8 missions in less than an hour?
scenic pine
quick question, i´m struggling to figure out what the perks actually mean
like what enemies count as infested?
they´re all nurgle enemies, arent they all infested?
misty nova
like what enemies count as infested?
Poxwalkers and dogs
Poxwalkers are the slow moving almost naked horned horde enemies
scenic pine
I see.
that sounds all very very specific.
What´s the reccomendation for wich damage type to take if you want to go for horde clear for example?
on a meelee weapon
Cause hearing all of theese just seems kinda useless to me. like i´ll only deal extra damage one out of 3 times
hollow lintel
yeah it's just not worth it to waste a perk slot for horde damage
take crit if anything
scenic pine
ah, critical hit chance..
actually that would work really well.
I already have shred 4 on this weapon
didnt even think about that, thanks
misty nova
What´s the reccomendation for wich damage type to take if you want to go for hor...
Sometimes you'll get Groaners and Bruisers, they have Unarmored parts, but only some weapons benefit from Unarmored
Plus Groaners/Walkers have low HP
vestal pine
Cause hearing all of theese just seems kinda useless to me. like i´ll only deal ...
unarmored/flak are the most common armor type across multiple enemies so hordeclear usually employs that
for example, dreg gunner has their head armor type as unarmored
scab gunners have their head as flak
atomic sparrow
or maybe weakpoint damage on shockmaul? it kills mauler and crusher so slowly wehreas its 1 bonk with Pickaxe with right build
vast basin
Weak spot damage perk is never good
stone fern
Tigrus Mk XV Heavy Eviscerator
Bumped the speed for windup timings of Heavy 1 and Heavy 2 attacks:
Heavy 1 chained from base start or Light 4: 0.4 (unchanged)
Heavy 1 chained from Light 2 / Heavy 2 from 0.76 to 0.65
Heavy 2 chained from Light 1 / Heavy 1 from 0.85 to 0.65
Heavy 2 chained from Light 3 / push follow-up from 0.6 to 0.4.
LETS GOOOOOOOOO
undone pewter
Flamer buffs too.
steep flame
a needed buff
serene geyser
Are the eviscerators side grades or is one better than the other?
steep flame
Are the eviscerators side grades or is one better than the other?
the second is way better against bosses
royal vortex
god forbid anything but stupid special jank be able to kill you in dt
steep flame
and the 1st is better for horde clear
ember yew
serene geyser
Is seconds horde clear serviceable?
steep flame
Is seconds horde clear serviceable?
mhmm, as long as you chuck in some pushes
serene geyser
Perfect Ty
atomic sparrow
thats two overtuned enemy that later patch tune down i experience with Bomber instant toughness down last year and now grunt gunner shredding toughness
steep flame
although i think the second ones cleave is capped at 5 or something
serene geyser
Hmmm
serene geyser
That’s probs still fine I think
stone fern
its braced auto gun time BABY
ember yew
This will also increase the power of specific Talents tied to Close Damage such as Veteran’s ‘Close Quarters Killzone’ and Zealot’s ‘Anoint in Blood’ which we will monitor closely.
for god's sake dont touch anoint in blood
go nerf someone else
vast basin
Huh, they buffed flamer direct damage. I bet overpressure is still broke tho
serene geyser
Anoint in blood goated
dark zealot
Huh, they buffed flamer direct damage. I bet overpressure is still broke tho <:K...
Testing time
Flamer would goated if they fixed that
vast basin
Is the direct damage buff actually going to make much of a difference though? All the damage is in the burn anyway
royal vortex
it very slightly increases overpressure viability i guess
dark zealot
Free damage is damage
vestal pine
damage is damage
spare dome
god forbid anything but stupid special jank be able to kill you in dt
It's super frustrating tbh because a lot of players believe they added extra shooters to all events when actually, you're just finally noticing all the shooters that have always been there but were too piss weak to care about
Shooters were finally a registered threat again
coarse birch
Yeah they fucking did something
royal vortex
It's super frustrating tbh because a lot of players believe they added extra sho...
all the shooters that also oftentimes spawn next to you and you just instagank them
i haven't been mad at a fkin patch note in a long time
this is ridiculous
coarse birch
Pressure???? From anything but 4 trappers????? Unbelievable
vestal pine
i dont get the flamer buff but good shit regardless
vestal pine
looks like they only reverted half
royal vortex
why do you even have shooters in the game if the point of them is to just DO NOTHING
vast basin
Well I think ogryns suffered a lot from the ranged enemies to the point of it being not fun
coarse birch
Yeah but they kill the redditors that run into the middle of the room and go afk
spare dome
Dreg Shooter salvos are a touch too long and you can sprint slide and still get shot at the end
vast basin
And ogryns don't want to play only shield
royal vortex
ogryns suffer if you make them do any amount of gameplay that isn't auto releasing heavies
spare dome
And hitstunning
royal vortex
you didn't have to play shield on ogryn
coarse birch
That is an ogryn issue not a shooter issue
spare dome
But otherwise, feels very Helldivers 2 to me lol
royal vortex
it brought back a modicum of pre patch 13 ogryn gameplay where if you wanted to melee shooters you had to dive them and make sure theyre staying staggered or in melee range
spare dome
Ye
ember yew
i haven't been mad at a fkin patch note in a long time
i still used my tactical axe build without TWBS
royal vortex
fucking insane, i know, maybe different enemy types should require MARGINALLY different combat strategies
royal vortex
and every problem shouldnt be solved by just heavy attacking it without pressing any other key
spare dome
member when shooters salvod you for 140+ toughness each
royal vortex
member when shooters salvod you for 140+ toughness each
god bless
spare dome
proper terror
ember yew
im gonna throw out twbs
from my martyrdom builds again (fck marty builds eat too much points)
trollface.jpg
spare dome
i think one build has it but its to reach grievous wounds
ember yew
cuz interrupt annoyed hell out of me
spare dome
frustrating tbh
this reversion lol
hope they dont take four months to bring it back BUT THEY'RE FUKKEN GONNA
vestal pine
they probably will but at least itemization at that point so casuals wont be mad
royal vortex
hope they dont take four months to bring it back BUT THEY'RE FUKKEN GONNA
and then theyll break something and u wont have any shooters spawn for a week after the patch
vestal pine
ill still say zealot is dead(compared to vet) but ill shut up now cause i dont have problems now
hope voc and cdr nerf for vet
ember yew
i really wish it would show when loner was active
when you see someone writing insults towards you in the chat is probably means loner is active, tho jokes aside its probably the shittiest penance out there
coarse birch
removed the filter for people who think they can handle auric damns
I couldnt play the game with my eyes closed and no keyboard and clear auric time to complain
vestal pine
him fucking moving is real funny to me
and he does sometimes gets me
reminds me of tomislav heavy
solemn holly
when you see someone writing insults towards you in the chat is probably means l...
yea it really sucks
also is "backstabs" just using the ability? or can it be normal attacks
spare dome
two reapers reaping me simultaneously is death
ember yew
also is "backstabs" just using the ability? or can it be normal attacks
just anything melee that hit in the back
it's just that backstab hitboxes are silly sometimes
solemn holly
ok good
yea
wonder whats the best weapon for that
one of the axes maybe
that can oneshot the shooters
ember yew
wonder whats the best weapon for that
i did it with knife, but that was before crit cdr nerf
now it's even more annoying to do
worldly lagoon
Hi, so flamer buff
spare dome
j dunno what any of it means tbh
worldly lagoon
Overpressure still broken I assume though
scenic pine
after a bit of experimentation
I do wanna ask, what class are snipers and gunners? want to figure out wich perk deals extra damage to thoose
vast basin
Snipers are all unarmored. Dreg gunners are mixed unarmored with flak and scab gunners are just flak
scenic pine
So i should takeee flak if i want to take care of thoose ranged enemies?
Am building a bolt pistol for refrence
frosty herald
@royal vortex help bro build a bolt pistol
slate notch
Flamer slaps rn
crisp furnace
seems unnessesarily buffed but damage is damage kek
Now you get it
slate notch
Can't provide numbers right now but sure it does way more damage
slate notch
Flamer was a weapon that wasn't bad but was not enough fun or useful to bring it in, I guess this dmg buff is for us to give it a 2nd chance in case we got rid of it a time ago because the other options are in a better position. Always imo.
vestal pine
wasnt fun? it kiled anything before the fotf nerf
crisp furnace
I do find it extremely funny that people were failing enough missions when the game isn’t spawning specialist waves to the point where they undid it
Maybe that’s why they refuse to fix event spawns
serene geyser
Am building a bolt pistol for refrence
do not let them decieve you my friend when they suggest building a bolt pistol
slate notch
wasnt fun? it kiled anything before the fotf nerf
But wasn't enough to pick over other weapons, I mean, that's my experience. Now fotf is nerfed they said: "Ok, let's buff flamer so those nostalgics still using it don't get too mad now"
cerulean moth
It's super frustrating tbh because a lot of players believe they added extra sho...
I ligt was getting people thanking me for chosing smoke nades. cause of how the gunners were acting
It was good times
crisp furnace
Gunners are a threat for the first 200 hours
vestal pine
gunners are real threat once i fumble and miss 3 throwing knives at them
frosty elm
flamer was fine
It's a free country so you have the right to be dead wrong
just try burning a crusher
crisp furnace
You shouldn’t be able to click one button and win against anything
frosty elm
Plus what a lot of people don't take into consideration is this: Using any close range firearm like the flamer means you're giving up long range counters, meaning gunners snipers bombers and anything outside your reach can destroy you
crisp furnace
That’s why the flamer was in a perfect position, as a cc damage took like purgartus
frosty elm
paired with the ranged enemies buffs, and auric difficulties where range enemes are plenty, you're fucked
vestal pine
which was reverted
frosty elm
and you're giving up the ability to solve THAT problem
vestal pine
well partially but still
frosty elm
By giving up such a valuable counter, you should at least have a powerful flamer, otherwise there would be no reason to bring the flamer in
cerulean moth
i dont notice much on maulers but yesus
Zealots lose crit rending
vestal pine
i actually hate this
cerulean moth
we gain flamer
vestal pine
flamer was finnnnne
frosty elm
we gain flamer
hell yeah battle brother
frosty elm
flamer was finnnnne
I'm glad the balance team straight up disagreed with people like you tbh
crisp furnace
Why does the flamer need to kill an entire horde by itself
vestal pine
it already could
crisp furnace
I'm glad the balance team straight up disagreed with people like you tbh
Want it nerfed?
frosty elm
Why does the flamer need to kill an entire horde by itself
because you gave up the ability to deal with any type of range enemy
split gate
flamer buff isnt amazing, considering it got a huge nerf last patch
crisp furnace
it already could
Now it will melt both bosses and carapace
vestal pine
it wont do shit againt carapace still
frosty elm
and in auric or just damnation, it's a PRETTY big ask
spare dome
because you gave up the ability to deal with any type of range enemy
i throw my throwing knife and laugh
vestal pine
rending wasnt reverted
faint vapor
Why does the flamer need to kill an entire horde by itself
To be fair, it fucking better deal with hordes by itself
vestal pine
but jesus
frosty elm
i throw my throwing knife and laugh
Right cause you have 900 throwing knives for every shooter on the map
spare dome
youre scared of shooters?
split gate
main reason to bring a flamer was for taking out the mixed horde with rending
frosty elm
One thing that I do agree with you is keep the carapace immunity. It shouldn't melt crushers
split gate
but rending is gone
crisp furnace
It wasn’t rending
spare dome
either way the answer is the same, you close the gap and you puff twice and they all stop
crisp furnace
Just to be perfectly clear
frosty elm
but anything underneath crusher and within the flamers limited range, it should die
vestal pine
crisp furnace
It is now rending
frosty elm
Plus flamer is not meta defining by any means, buffing it just makes it more fun without ruining the entire balance. Why hate fun
it still can't deal with carapace, it's ammo economy is still dog shit, it's got a reach of like 10 meters
vestal pine
@crisp furnace fine i give up you win
frosty elm
just buffing the horde clear is the definition of a minor buff
novel forum
tried flamer, still shit
frosty elm
tried flamer, still shit
Bros in here is actually trying to argue it's now overpowered as hell though
crisp furnace
The power buff was completely unnecessary
frosty elm
I mean I can argue but reality disagrees with you so I rest my case
crisp furnace
What it needed was ammo and reload speeds
misty nova
Schrodinger's Flamer
vestal pine
The power buff was completely unnecessary
take your W cause now i have to mald about them buffing flamers
crisp furnace
That’s the problem with the bolter
Is it takes 50 million years to pull it out and 200 to reload it
novel forum
my bad muscle memory still tried to ult while spraying got greeted by overhead
frosty elm
What it needed was ammo and reload speeds
I wouldn't disagree with additional buffs
vestal pine
insanity
crisp furnace
what does mk2 do i only used the other two
Make you not able to play darktide if you play it too much
frosty elm
Is it takes 50 million years to pull it out and 200 to reload it
But that makes perfect sense lore wise. It's supposed to be heavy and slow. It just needed the insane power to balance out those drawbacks
vestal pine
Make you not able to play darktide if you play it too much
i hate my hand axe
frosty elm
a bolter that pulls out like a regular rifle makes no sense
and 8 shots to kill a crusher also makes no sense
sour iron
what do with
vestal pine
@crisp furnace is overpressure bug only buffing direct damage or was it just fucked
polar nexus
sharp oyster
tried flamer, still shit
it's not a bad weapon
slate dragon
Huh, they buffed flamer direct damage. I bet overpressure is still broke tho <:K...
Wait, overpressure doesn't work?
spare dome
turns out overpressure ...
... is undercooked 🕶️
ember yew
someone should find the guy who made enhanced descriptions
to add that it's not working
vestal pine
does overpressuer work to direct damage at least lol
also dammit hi-int got jokey again
or AI being nice
man i now want shooters back even if they sucked balls
im dumb
spare dome
yea overpressure affects the onhit
slate dragon
So does this flamer buff make it feel less anemic?
spare dome
you basically get to gigamelt anything that isnt crushers in a pack
vestal pine
i hate it
vestal pine
its great now
spare dome
so no change really lmao
spare dome
yeah, exactly
vestal pine
good thing ranged rending was gone before this
haughty haven
Wait so what's with the beloved mk15?
misty nova
You can go from lights to heavy more consistent, I believe that's the case now
spare dome
"Dreg Shooter salvos last longer than a dodge slide, so even sliding to avoid the start of a salvo meant you still often took damage at the end. Now add fifteen shooters.
Ranged hitstun snuck back in apparently with the added accuracy and you'd be unable to move under fire at first contact."
quoting myself
misty nova
Oh and from heavy to heavy as well
spare dome
still wish they kept them buff tho
misty nova
Doesn't change much my play style because revving resets the combo
But I can see why it's a good Eviscerator adjustment
polar nexus
good thing ranged rending was gone before this
You still got red stims and uncanny
misty nova
Hmmm, gotta check it with Martyrdom
See how fast I can combo lights into heavy
Dealing with hordes while also withering important targets
polar nexus
quoting myself
The intention behind the change was good, the execution not really
polar nexus
We went from not needing twbs to being mandatory again
spare dome
really all those issues translate to "use solid cover more"
i sitll hadnt clicked TWBS on
i was doin fine
polar nexus
The problem was more pronounced in open areas
solar gorge
coop horde shooter players learn to use hard cover challenge impossible
polar nexus
Like the new map
solar gorge
many such cases
misty nova
Good to know clear ranged move forward still the best strategy
haughty haven
You can go from lights to heavy more consistent, I believe that's the case now
Did they fix crusher evisceration
misty nova
Evis15 can still get rid of them
viral zealot
After dedicating myself to only the dagger for 800+ levels, this is my genuine bid for the greatest Dagger Zealot on Darktide
https://youtu.be/kcQgUKylWDk?si=sGz4bRnxF5puDmoc
dark zealot
After dedicating myself to only the dagger for 800+ levels, this is my genuine b...
no skull mask, instant failure
placid fiber
After dedicating myself to only the dagger for 800+ levels, this is my genuine b...
Hold up, he has the autopistol
left iron
Just gotta cut that mission time down by about 15 mins while doing the same amount of damage and you'll be up on par with me, the most average zealot there is
placid fiber
lol
I'm not auric trained, since I like to have fun when I play and those modifiers sometimes aren't fun... without randos, tho, auric or maelstrom is kinda fun
left iron
Im terminally average ™
split ibex
Is Overpressure still bugged?
dark zealot
Im terminally average ™
the most average zealot of today
placid fiber
Im terminally average ™
Meanwhile I'm terminally blind
That one maelstrom mission(which we did several times) with cole was pretty fun. Wish I wasn't as rusty as I am, so I could have contributed more but oh well lol
dark zealot
SMITE GAMINTG
placid fiber
It exists! O_O
haughty haven
Evis15 can still get rid of them
The evis isn't stunlocking charging crushers anymore
Not sure if they fixed it with this buff
misty nova
Crushers received that one buff, you can't insta stagger them
There's also stun immunity period
haughty haven
Oh shit
Brain burst still staggers them whenever so does surge staff
Or is that just due to the nature of the attacks themselves
misty nova
Those are psykers
placid fiber
If the surge staff didn't stun the crusher I'd want my money back
misty nova
They also need some time to stagger with smite
placid fiber
I've never used smite, and I probably never will tbh
dark zealot
i got 36
misty nova
Although I'm pretty sure a crit rev will always stagger
haughty haven
Smite is good and balanced
misty nova
So slap bloodthirsty on the 15
placid fiber
I want to kill something with my career skill
ember yew
why did they revert the shooter changes
majority of players didnt like it, can't be helped
placid fiber
Erm "grenade"
placid fiber
majority of players didnt like it, can't be helped
What exactly did they revert? I didn't really notice much different when I did play before tbh
ember yew
placid fiber
That was reverted?
Oh, I didn't see the line above the change sections lol
This one
Huh I honestly treat shooters and such like I do anyway, whether or not they are aggressive...
I didn't really notice the change, in the 9 or so games I played last saturday or w/e day it was
I was too busy trying to survive to take in those changes xD
Guess I must deal with them fairly effectively, at least, then <.<'
Darktide feels a lot like ror2 does to me: You gotta know what to target first, more or less
haughty haven
So slap bloodthirsty on the 15
Problem is evis basically NEEDS shred and rampage
dark zealot
i did it
dark zealot
Did you feel that it was good, when you threw it?
yes i knew it was the one
placid fiber
yes i knew it was the one
That's at great feeling isn't it, hehe
misty nova
Problem is evis basically NEEDS shred and rampage
Not really, bloodthirsty is pretty strong and you can play around it however you like
Unless you want to light spam
Which is not really what I do
I rev light..... spam
So while Shred Rampage is strong
It isn't the only way to play it
Even if you consider the cap
haughty haven
Wouldn't mk2 be a better sword for not spamming lmb lights?
dark zealot
man i hate ragers
misty nova
Wouldn't mk2 be a better sword for not spamming lmb lights?
Yeah but it lacks the single target damage of the 15
spare dome
yea worth two upgrades
vast rapids
buy everything above 370base
spare dome
i said two upgrades
misty nova
Rampage and elites good
dark zealot
i said two upgrades
why only two?