zealot-class

[surreal shore]

oh okay thx

[vestal pine]

anyway

i think game being casual is fine

[dark zealot]

Balancing around competitive ruins gsmes

[vestal pine]

that too

[spare dome]

thats why you separate with difficulties lol

[vestal pine]

but least keep some kind of resemblence between stuff

[dark zealot]

Balancing in general can ruin gsmes, just look at rainbow 6

The incompetence of the balancing is crazy

[vestal pine]

1 weapon killing everything on map with 1 ammo and one taking 100 ammo to 1 target is idk bad

[spare dome]

"im a real fukken Gamer so im gonna go into the highest difficulty instead of any lower ones (:"
"omg this is way too hard what is wrong with this company are they stupid??"

[vestal pine]

and balance being balance it cannot cater to everyone

[south folio]

g*mer

[vestal pine]

ultra-violence

[dark zealot]

That’s why you balance around fun

[solar gorge]

doom eternal on release

[spare dome]

also Rainbow 6 Siege is hilarious, check out the old ass interviews with the game designers

[vestal pine]

so can we nerf vet please

[spare dome]

the people who created Siege thought Thermite would be a low pick niche

really think about that

and then think about where the game went over time

[dark zealot]

No I mean how they nerf everything in illogical ways.

“This guy has a really strong ability let’s nerf everything but his ability “

[spare dome]

it's almost like they were always winging it

[vestal pine]

isnt thermite the breacher for like nearly the whole lifespan

[spare dome]

they thought Thermite

would be a low pick niche

[vestal pine]

ok maybe after some replacements rolled in he was less picked but still

[spare dome]

they thought THERMITE

the only guy on launch for a year

who could open reinforced walls

would be a niche

[dark zealot]

“Hey this guy is plsyed way too much let’s nerf them” (the reason they are played is because they nerfed the utility guys so much their guns are awful to use so no one wants to play them even if their utility is good

[spare dome]

again its because they are always behind the game itself and the players

because whatever idea the studio had for R6:S

did not play into reality at all

[vestal pine]

so they made a game involving destruction of walls to create new openings, and proceed to thought a operative that can do that without boundaries wasnt gonna be picked?

[spare dome]

they wanted the game to be much slower

[vestal pine]

yes

[spare dome]

you used to be unable to peek into or out of windows

remember that

the game was supposed to be about

intel, to hot breach

but thats not how it played out

[vestal pine]

feels like its anime now

[dark zealot]

They also nerfed ads speeds so much they made lmgs meta

[vestal pine]

didnt they also nerf shields

[dark zealot]

Then instead of fixing the ads speeds they made lmgs hsbe terrible recoil

[dense field]

BUT IT'S THEIR CORE IDENTITY! We cannot nerf that! :^)

[dark zealot]

They nerfed the attachment that gave faster ads and gave it instead faster reload

[vestal pine]

isnt that useless

not like siege magdump is a good strat

[dark zealot]

The reload is barely noticeable

And compared to less recoil

Which one will the player feel like has more impact on their performance?

[vestal pine]

recoil

since it has sway kek

[dark zealot]

The other funny one was the scopes

[spare dome]

yes again its like they didnt really realize their vision well at all and have been in perpetual catch up mode

[dark zealot]

“Why is everyone using these 1.5x? Let’s remove them all”

[spare dome]

which is why Helldivers 2 is so frustrating, because as a sequel to HD1, they fucking nailed it

[vestal pine]

the "you cant attach acogs on a mac-10" will always be funny to me

[spare dome]

they DID realize their vision

but now its going in weird places in response to people who DONT engage with the game's tools at all

[vestal pine]

except it wasnt appealing thay much to casual plebs

[solar gorge]

and once again

it's reddit's fault

[vestal pine]

in which was the majority

[spare dome]

casuals already bought the game, lol

[vestal pine]

i think its fine in the direction

just not... the original

and i do feel like there are some fumbles

[dark zealot]

I like the finals because that game lets me just have fun and destroy everything with a sledge hammer

[vestal pine]

idk they reslly should have made crafting in the game and not do darktide

possibly balance around that

i wonder if they can actually add it too

[dark zealot]

We even have a scorpion hook to pull people into us

Cause if you lack mobility then just give them a way to force the enemy into cqc

Best part though is the hook works on the objectives (cash outs) so you can manipulate them to troll the enemy

[vestal pine]

idk. helldivers 2 basically having blown up in casual appeal def didnt do anything good to the game in its original vision
i do think its doing great for the time being, just not in its original way
some people might hate that, i personally think its great for the time being

[spare dome]

my current hopium

is that their last balance pass, which basically leveled everything off

is to introduce higher difficulties

like this should establish a baseline for what ACTUAL HARD MODE should be

[vestal pine]

they probably will

[spare dome]

and if they dont, well, w/e

i got my $40 worth

[vestal pine]

didnt hd1 also have 10+ diff?

[spare dome]

ill stilll check out illuminates in the end

[dark zealot]

The highest difficult should be difficult

[spare dome]

yea HD1 ended with 15 difficulties

[vestal pine]

yeah then it should be similar

i just hope

[spare dome]

but the tension was always high on all difficulties in terms of relative skill levels

[dark zealot]

Like I don’t do auric 5s because I don’t find that fun

[vestal pine]

the higher diff actually stay diff

[dark zealot]

So I do auric 4s or normal 5s

[vestal pine]

auric 4 would probably be harder if anything

least its not normal 4

[dark zealot]

I just like assassinations

[vestal pine]

assasi is fun

[dark zealot]

And I find that normally gives an alright reward

I don’t know what’s meta for leveling characters though

[vestal pine]

the lvl 12 player blowing a poxburster next to me when i try to push it sending me down a chasm isnt fun

[dark zealot]

I want to get my Ogryn to 30 fast but playing a 2 and getting one level each time is getting old fast

[vestal pine]

i get a firend and play 5

but idk with the new shooter changes

[dark zealot]

I played one three and we all died to a pox hound swarm

Which when I play zealot is never a problem

I’ll be doing 5s and hound swarms aren’t a problem

But the moment I’m playing the big slow guy on a lower difficulty leveling them and it’s a wipe

[vestal pine]

idk

ogryns not eating great of the patch

slow hunky and shooters decimate him unless shields

[dark zealot]

I just want to use the funny pickaxe

Like we got new weapons so I want to try them

[faint vapor]

If the middle keystone wasn't nerfed I'd be fine :c

Now I'm lucky to have 5 stacks

[ember yew]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-my-god-gif-23934762

[faint vapor]

Flamer zealot time

[ember yew]

i just wanted to swap for another weekly contracts

[north sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-cat-gif-26460616

[faint vapor]

For Ogryn, got nerfed to reduce on toughness damage too

[dark zealot]

At least we can shoot through them right?

[merry flume]

melk coin having a use for endgame would make me so happy

[faint vapor]

Blessings

[north sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/picsou-scrooge-duck-coins-gold-gif-6105586

[dark zealot]

Curio farming

[faint vapor]

I just buy lvl 4 blessings I don't have yet

[merry flume]

that's not a proper use

cause it's still a lottery

[frosty herald]

Cosmetics

[dark zealot]

So is the big E’s rewards

[frosty herald]

Or weapon skins

[merry flume]

and the fact that the inventory changes every day that's lame i'm not gonna make a job out of checking a store for mid

[faint vapor]

Name a use -> "that's not what I want to hear"

[merry flume]

endgame

[faint vapor]

[merry flume]

looking for tier 4's is not endgame

[dark zealot]

To be fair the other shop isn’t much better

It’s almost always junk

With maybe one item worth buying

[north sedge]

Melk is generally dogshit

[dark zealot]

And then that item might still have bad rng

[merry flume]

yeah other store is for people just starting out

it only gives like tier 1 and 2

[dark zealot]

Nah I find it’s actually still the better of the two

Easier resource to get, refreshes more often

[north sedge]

I just make weapons

[merry flume]

its just not enough reason to even go for weeklies

[dark zealot]

I’d much rather get a low weapon with good stats to roll onto than get a weapon with perks and blessings that probably aren’t what I want and then have bad rng on the stats anyway

[merry flume]

for what, the rewards are garbaggggggggge

[dark zealot]

Maybe you can get lucky and get a blessing you need

But otherwise it’s just a curio farm

[merry flume]

i don't wanna get lucky!!!!!!!!!

i have like 30k melk coin cause ive bought like a total of 5 weapons since i started playing zealot

even when i was fresh 30 i would wait to see what the shop refresh would be at 8pm every day

just for it to be garbage every time

i'm like level 1200 now

[dark zealot]

Exactly just use the regular shop

[merry flume]

the regular shop makes sense having bad items because the effort in getting the money is zero

[spare dome]

if you arent mainlining damn+ constantly melk is pretty good

[merry flume]

fuck ur right lemme play sedition

LMAO

[spare dome]

what i mean is, its for other players

[merry flume]

i wonder if people talk more in lower diffuculties

[spare dome]

my shit stays mute either way lol

[merry flume]

you don't yap to randoms from time to time? it's funny

[dark zealot]

I’m not here to talk but beat up heretics

[spare dome]

i was rewatching a clutch and a dude on my team squaked the entire fucking time

so happy i couldn't hear that

[merry flume]

hey hey there's a difference between talkin and yappin

[dark zealot]

Though yesterday I had a guy malding in chat cause I blew up an explosive

[spare dome]

the whole six minutes

[dark zealot]

this time the best of the junk was not good

[merry flume]

love not being able to pay my bill cause icloud is down yippie

[dark zealot]

but sometimes you can get a good high stat weapon, this could of been a solid purchase

but hey i just wait 30mins and get another roll

I would show melks shop but it’s all so cursed there isn’t anything I could argue might be alright

And I have to wait 8 and a half hours for it to refresh

[bold dirge]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[fleet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/but-heres-the-kicker-gif-26137308

[hushed knoll]

OwO rizzlerwizzler uwu noticed u

[hard nexus]

are there cheats that like

increase your level

because i feel like ive seen some absurdly high level people that r just really bad

[hushed knoll]

There are no cheats

People just play a lot

[hard nexus]

damn

people just suck then lmfao

[faint vapor]

Indeed

Level =\= skill just like DRG

[fleet zealot]

I’m not changing my name to that

Btw release me

[vast basin]

Maybe if you're constantly watching other people's play because you are dead, then you are the bad one

[hushed knoll]

OwO notices u chan desu

[fleet zealot]

Learning itself is a skill

[vestal pine]

furret

[faint vapor]

UwU

[coarse birch]

You hate this saying why did you use it

[fleet zealot]

There are a select few individuals i’ve run into

Stan is homophobic /joke

[hushed knoll]

THAT LASAGNA LOOKS CRISP
…that’s my daughter

[hushed knoll]

What

[fleet zealot]

You don’t have a daughter

[hard nexus]

im stupid i dont get what this means

[fleet zealot]

I refuse to believe it

[hushed knoll]

How do you know

[coarse birch]

People play a lot but a lot of people just do w/e

[coarse birch]

What

[hard nexus]

fair

[fleet zealot]

There are a select view individuals who just play a lot of hours, they don’t bother learning anything

[hard nexus]

just can’t get over that level 3000 i saw lmfao

[coarse birch]

Like youll see level 1000s with awful loadouts

[hard nexus]

ah yeah

[fleet zealot]

The ability to learn is itself a skill and some people will master this game in less than 100 levels

[coarse birch]

Learning takes effort and a lot of people dont want to put that effort into games

[coarse birch]

I forgot about this

[hushed knoll]

Have I learned

[hard nexus]

i don’t get how this is possible lmfao, like i have 800 hours and about 500 levels total, so these people probably have 2-3 thousand hours on one class alone

and still suck

[coarse birch]

Your p good yeah

[faint vapor]

Lvl 400 Vet with Recon + Infernus -> not using Headhunter

[hushed knoll]

Awww Shaquille you’re so sweet

Shucks*

[faint vapor]

I'll never get some people

[hushed knoll]

Jfc

[coarse birch]

Welp

[hard nexus]

level 1.2k zealot using an axe without brutal moment

[faint vapor]

Revolver without Handcannon is always a headscratcher too

[spare dome]

thats me

[spare dome]

also me

[ember yew]

level 720 zilot using Flesh Tearer Lacerate knife and doing 190k (total) damage over auric full run

at least he didn't died or maybe once

[hard nexus]

like i don’t wanna be the “erm if you don’t run meta you’re throwing” but in aurics your build should be like, at least coherent lmfao

or just have the skill to back it up

cuz i know a few of my builds r def off meta

[ember yew]

offmeta builds are fine

[north sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/shaq-shimmy-excited-smile-gif-12032436

[ember yew]

im doing 800k-1mil damage with tactical axe

but something like

FT/Lacerate knife is just useless shit

[hard nexus]

how r you getting that much damage in a match

[hushed knoll]

Please make sure you drink water today

[hard nexus]

is it just like 40 minute games?

[ember yew]

the worse are your teammates

the more damage will you do

[hard nexus]

true

[faint vapor]

A single poxwalker is like 700 hp

[hard nexus]

had a psyker match where i got like 800k the other day lmfao

[faint vapor]

Its honestly pretty easy

[north sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/dying-hungry-and-thirsty-gif-16689267

[hard nexus]

500

[faint vapor]

Bruh

[hard nexus]

pox walkers are 500 i’m pretty sure

or is that groaners

[faint vapor]

Oh right my bolt pistol does less infested damage

Was basing it off the fact it takes 2 body shots for my bolt pistol to kill a poxwalker

[hushed knoll]

DOUGH PLEASE DRINK

[hard nexus]

lmfao

[hard nexus]

ah

[south folio]

poxxies got 375

[ember yew]

buff bolt pistol

what is dis

[south folio]

bolt weapons have poor infested adms

[hard nexus]

real

[spare dome]

please stop shooting poxwalkers

[faint vapor]

Bolters have weirdly low infested damage

[north sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/dying-hungry-and-thirsty-gif-18407119697594143225

[faint vapor]

No

[hard nexus]

but my agripinna brauto kills them well :(

[hushed knoll]

Dough please

[north sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/weird-man-water-thirsty-drink-dehydrated-gif-17104467

[fleet zealot]

I fucking hate gen ai

[vestal pine]

this remineds me of those guys who insist they punch a hole beneath the can and drink through there

[fleet zealot]

It’s ruining my ferret searches

[vestal pine]

infested versus rockets

[vestal pine]

furret

[fleet zealot]

Danger noodle

[vestal pine]

only ferret i temmeber is from gfl tbh

cute white noodle

[faint vapor]

FAL :D

[vestal pine]

i think they are cool in general outside of gacha games

i just cant stand to raise animals

when i cant raise myself proper

[hushed knoll]

WHY

[merry flume]

disregard of finger health

[north sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/airplane-airplane-movie-drinking-problem-drinking-pour-water-gif-12269682

[coarse birch]

I will continue to shoot the hound 4 times and then complain about bolt pistol

[vestal pine]

hi did you call

[merry flume]

lacerate knife

[coarse birch]

I hate this emote it makes me feel bad

[vestal pine]

im seeing a guy play ogryn for the first time after achieveing vet 4000 lvl

"where me confirmed kill"

[merry flume]

lacerate knife is a meme but flesh tearer knife is actually good

[vast basin]

It's called the best defense

Gives more toughness for just hitting things

[ember yew]

Whatever guide maker proposed double bleed should be executed by the Emperor order

[vestal pine]

why stamina jeez

and yes

[median steeple]

[vestal pine]

though that should give like 14 stacks of bleed with a crit on a body

getting to enjoy more mk4 chaxe rather than mk12

[ornate bone]

ayo I thought ignorance was the thing they wanted

[vestal pine]

theres something about backwards

[merry flume]

being pretentious is like the first personality quirk any warhammer character gets

[vestal pine]

foolish are they who fear nothing but claim to know everything or whatever

[merry flume]

[vestal pine]

do you wanna live in 40k universe(you are guaranteed to not get eaten by a warp entity and at least live to a decent amount)

[fleet zealot]

Flesh tearer is just the best bleed option

It falls flat compared to 4 other blessings

But we recommend it

[merry flume]

if i was in the 40k univere bro....i'd bne like on the pleasure planet or some shit

[vestal pine]

eh idk about that without piety
with piety yes the better option

[fleet zealot]

Cause people will force bleed

[merry flume]

i would unironically have a tau wife in 40k don't @ me

or husband

[fleet zealot]

Always yes because aiming for non weakspot hits gives you a damage loss that isn’t compensated by lacerate

[vestal pine]

stop dating fish

[fleet zealot]

If you aren’t going piety you go riposte or executor

[merry flume]

https://tenor.com/view/swimming-kanye-west-south-park-s13e5-fish-sticks-gif-23033524

[fleet zealot]

Just dont go fucking lacerate

[vestal pine]

i still think lacerate does better in a kiting situation since you dont have to take care muwh, which i think its the reason we take it(other being scourge) but idk

might make a knife again

mostly cause precog knife seems fun to use

[fleet zealot]

Ahh yes lacerate is better when you are too lazy to look up 6 inches

[hushed knoll]

Exhillious hi!!!!!!

[vestal pine]

eh no, like even the mk3 with horizontal light slashes tend to hit bodyparts and trigger lacerate

thats abour it

[hushed knoll]

[vestal pine]

i wanna make a precog mk3

[fleet zealot]

Yea you’d use riposte cause executor is firmly only for mk6

[vestal pine]

seems fun to spam damage

[hushed knoll]

I AM A RECOVERING GAY FISH

[merry flume]

going for non weakspot hits on knife just feels off

but i have trained myself to always aim at head level

in like

every fps ever

[vestal pine]

guess thats the consensus around here yea
i aim for the head but shoulder hits be hsoulder hits lol

[merry flume]

yeah it's super easy to whiff weakspots esp in mixed horde so you get some value outta it

[vestal pine]

i think thats why we use it mostly

we dont teach idiots to go for bodies at all lol

[north sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/joel-spinning-fish-joel-pride-emote-gif-26200960

[fleet zealot]

But that is what lacerate does teach

[vestal pine]

wanna make the uh precog for rn

[fleet zealot]

Even if that’s not your intention

[dark zealot]

we went through 5 different squad members

[fleet zealot]

Just do riposte instead xd if you are skipping piety

[dark zealot]

that was not worth it

[vestal pine]

ill make the next one that

i have lacerate ujcanny that is locked for both blessings afterall

[merry flume]

honestly

if you have uncanny, it really doesn't matter what other blessing you have lmao

[dark zealot]

after what i just went though this hurts

[vestal pine]

true

you can really just force wp hits with uncanny and push any elites

[merry flume]

did you get a bruntshop emp gift lmao

[median steeple]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/967102699789221918/1257680673796259870/Put_some_swaz_on_it.mov?ex=668549e7&is=6683f867&hm=50756e5a7cf39a402505394b18894bcf5bf547511d14fe0a5d39da259b9e4904&

[ripe quest]

yo

[dark zealot]

whats worse is the shop sucks too

[median steeple]

the shop always sucks

[dark zealot]

I dont think i have had a worse shop

[fleet zealot]

The shop always sucks except if you are asleep

Then it is suddenly 380 bases and t2 only blessings

[ripe quest]

Real bleedmaxxers just run crit build w/ Mk VI Uncanny + Flesh Tearer and spam H1 H2 bc

[merry flume]

i remember during darktides first major patch it looked like someone flipped a switch on the shop

[dark zealot]

i think that was a shop item

[merry flume]

cause it was dropping solid 380s

melk too

[ripe quest]

just set up a script to auto-buy cool items

[dark zealot]

this is part where you tell me that axe is the worst one

[merry flume]

me when i spam knife heavies because they look cool and badass

and you get the cool weapon animation blending

WHICH NO OTHER WEAPON HAS

[ripe quest]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1071880005279285340/1234373912272306246/attachment-4.gif

[merry flume]

yeah time to make the "enhanced weapon animation" mod

where every reload is like boltpisol where you juggle the damn mag

[vestal pine]

why does bistol do that

[merry flume]

cool factor

[vestal pine]

comissars being cool smh

also

im quite suprised its not that big

[merry flume]

you wouldn't get it....i daydream fight scene amv's in my head

[vestal pine]

guess thats why comissars have them

[dark zealot]

that was not worth the resources either

only 500

[vestal pine]

idk why people want stuff to be unlocked to 500

mix&match is more interesting than max stats

keep 380 but idk give 100% unlocks so you have dumb shit like 100 100 100 80 0

"dont need mobility"

[dark zealot]

ogryns be like

[fleet zealot]

no thanks

[vestal pine]

is that a thing even

melk giving me shit stuff again

[dark zealot]

oh yeah my sword

[fleet zealot]

okay i kinda feel that one

[vestal pine]

still waiting for

[ripe quest]

same but I'm just more powerful so I can imagine different weapon animations

[vestal pine]

catachan sword + laspistol gun and chainsword + boltpistol gun

darktide having no melee with ranged option attached really sucks

[merry flume]

maladaptive daydreamers rise up

[vestal pine]

ok uh before you swarm me with helbore

[fleet zealot]

dueling sword should have had psyker finger gun

[vestal pine]

give helbore to zealot

[fleet zealot]

and not "another version of a stab"

[merry flume]

the fact that helbore has a hidden skin that's all fucked up and patched to hell i would think it was a zealot weapon

[vestal pine]

tbh raier was stupid good and the pistol was icing on the cake so im glad they removed it

but still a shame

[dark zealot]

this might just be the strongest sword

[merry flume]

8

[ripe quest]

every gun on Psyker should have a Psyker-power attack and not just the normal special. Laspistol is really cool on Psyker but it's the only weapon with that coolness.

[merry flume]

well it's a heavy sword so yes it's still very strong

[spare dome]

but its like sooper cool

[ripe quest]

Like imagine loading magic bullets on the Revolver

[dark zealot]

do people even use heavy swords anymore?

[merry flume]

psyker push on laspistol should have a parry window but for projectiles

[ripe quest]

would be baller

[merry flume]

that would be cool

[ripe quest]

yee

[vestal pine]

they knew how to make shared weapons cool and then proceed to forget to actually do that except for laspistol

why

[ripe quest]

Hsword + Martyr is still absolutely nutty.

[sinful widget]

Yes

[vestal pine]

it couldve had so much

[sinful widget]

Hsword is amazing at horde clear

It only flails against carapace

Everything else is fine

[merry flume]

the only thing hsword sucks at is dealing with crushers and bulwarks

[vestal pine]

hsword is probably still a beast, just that mauler and crusher spawning a lot has ruined it idk

mauler is fineish since you can hit chest

[sinful widget]

Just go for body shots on a mauler

Special attack stuns ragers but its nowhere near comparable to dclaw parry

[vestal pine]

dclaw sometimes fails to stun them idk why

[merry flume]

would smaul be a little better if the shock special attack could be held as long as you kept the button held down?

the downside is you can barely move and you can only dodge out of it or let the button go

[vestal pine]

i wish this was a chainsword variant.

also saul is perfect imho

feels best out of the power/chain weapons rn

[merry flume]

i like the indi but i hate the agni

it just feels off

[vestal pine]

agni is a

crusher's lil cousin

that was not raised right

or something

[merry flume]

damn there was a ferret tiktok i saw that i forgor to save

it was just a bunch of ferret kits playing outside for the first time it was super cute

[fleet zealot]

ferret kits are honkers it's cute

[vestal pine]

they look like long rats or something idk

idk how to say that face its cuuuute

[dark zealot]

a new lowest roll

[faint vapor]

It whispers songs of rot and decay

[serene geyser]

Why didn’t anyone tell me Taxe got buffed

Welcome home my beloved

[vestal pine]

still my greatist roll ever

musket gaming

[dark zealot]

it got a good roll

when i look through my stuff I always find things that arent that bad yet i never upgraded

[sinful widget]

Guaranteed stuns only on weakspot hit

Which requires aiming for the parry

[dark zealot]

im guessing this isnt what i want on the chaxe

[vestal pine]

they sometimes get hit in the shoulder

smh

[sinful widget]

Yeah parry aiming is tricky

[vestal pine]

using 3 3stam

might swap one out

cause parryspam doesnt work well again

[sinful widget]

Parry spam only works if there is nothing behind you

You need to m1 to make some space in order to spam parries

[vestal pine]

ye

i use mk7

i miss the easy overhead for crushers

[sinful widget]

Mk4 has best parry

[vestal pine]

i mean its the same

and mk1/7 gets the overhead light as the followup

[coarse birch]

All the parries are the same mk4 just has an easier moveset but i also prefer mk7

[vestal pine]

mk1 is

idk why you'd use it

but it exists

[coarse birch]

Ye mk1 is sad

In anything but the parry

[vestal pine]

its a stick

with a parry

[pale spindle]

new zealot build I made, I need help polishing it: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9c6d7a7d-29c5-47f6-a01d-e6c169055bf6/evicersator-thru-butter

[vestal pine]

everyone made that build before the cdr was nerfed
just watch out for the cooldown and you shouls be fine really

[ember yew]

I would swap Columnus for Zarona mk2 HC/Surg, while you can, technically, heavy rev attack crushers, but with current aurics when they attacks in packs of 4-6 + million of shit around

high chance you wont get a finished rev

[fleet zealot]

sad

[vestal pine]

take da swing

did it exer get fixed

also where cokacola guy

should i use agrapina revolver for anti crusher other than doing fotf on a parrt so i blow 2/3 of his HP

[ornate bone]

I hate playing without revolver

Suddenly every special takes 2 years to kill

[north sedge]

🤔

[pale spindle]

the list grows 😤

[sinful widget]

Evis needs momentum instead of crit cdr spam now for the attack speed

[visual stream]

Now for ADHD Veteran with WS double barrel

[misty nova]

This patch

And shovel is the only melee weapon with TaS and All or Nothing
So push build viable

[pale spindle]

Wait what about chainsword? 🤔

[livid siren]

brave sir knife zealot ran away away

when danger reared its ugly head

he dumped his aggro, stealthed and fled

[placid fiber]

Sounds about right

[misty nova]

Consistent crit damage+cleave
13g also attacks super fast

[calm wolf]

what is that number 1

[vast basin]

It means he is in a strike team

[split ibex]

Hell yeah

Hadron gave me a treat

[placid fiber]

Nice

[pale spindle]

I never understood this, like if you have a knife you should be drooling to headshot some crushers 😔🤤

[maiden path]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3t2WkCudwfY

[pale spindle]

Nvm u can't get perfect strike on Chainsword 😔

[maiden path]

https://tenor.com/view/howling-wolf-white-wolf-howl-winter-gif-18360119195985262972

https://tenor.com/view/funny-emo-wolf-werewolf-transform-gif-27196401

[pale spindle]

CRAWLING IN MY CRAWLLLLL, THESE CRAWLS, THEY WILL NOT CRAAAWWWLLL, CRAAWLLING IS HOOOWWW I CRAWWWWLLLLL

[placid fiber]

I've heard that before lol

I can't 100% remember where, but, I know I've heard that lol

[pale spindle]

https://youtu.be/FCL50u8DgSQ?si=5z3PAmJIk9uH_Tvs

[willow rivet]

Hi folks

Question.. mk3 knife with uncanny4/riposte4 with zarona, piety + chorus.. ive been enjoying the versatility/tankiness save for ok horde clear i guess

Will this setup encounter significant problems if i switch knife to a dclaw? Would it have much worse crit rates?

[red forge]

what blessings are you guys liking on the Shock mauls?

[fleet zealot]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRCPGTyzl1g

[visual stream]

You should still be very well set up with zarona in your kit, Idk about crit rates but the build'll work for sure

[willow rivet]

Gotcha thanks!

[maiden path]

wtf iron banner came out early

[ember yew]

you'l get a slighly better horde clear and a parry and for that you will trade strong boss damage and elite damage potential

[maiden path]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3t2WkCudwfY

linkin park fucks so hard

[open pollen]

Well ain't that a blast from the blast. I recall playing this on my phonograph.

Back when that was the hip new thing, before those newfangled cassettes came out

Golly, 24 years, that's over a quarter of the average human lifespan!

[willow rivet]

[grizzled aspen]

No? It's Tuesday?

[placid fiber]

Tuesday is illegal!

[maiden path]

yes

its out

[grizzled aspen]

I mean like, yeah, of course it's out because it's Tuesday. Tuesday is the day of weekly resets, so crucible gets game modes rotated.

It isn't early.

[maiden path]

🤓

[placid fiber]

Welp, I have oven baked pot pies on the menu for today's meal >.>

The oven always cooks them so much better than the microwave lol

[faint vapor]

Pot pies are always good

God I could use one

[grizzled aspen]

Pot pies are great but I'm a big dude and I eat a bunch of em at a time.

My normal meal of pot pies is like 4 or 5 of them.

[placid fiber]

Yeah I eat a lot of them too, and the half hour cook time in the oven is so long T_T

but they are better in the oven

[grizzled aspen]

I dont make them in the oven.

If I bother using the oven, I'm making something homemade.

[placid fiber]

They are so much better when oven baked rather than microwaved

[grizzled aspen]

I'll air fry those mfs before I cook them in the oven.

[placid fiber]

lol

[grizzled aspen]

I am NOT waiting 30 minutes on a simple meal.

Especially not a frozen one.

I can have 4 pot pies done in like 7 minutes in the microwave.

By the time the oven kicks off I'd have already eaten all of them.

[placid fiber]

Well I only have 7 more minutes of waiting to do lol

I do have party sized box of cheez its to eat, in the mean time >.>

I think I've only eaten like... 1/3rd of it since yesterday :/

At least in the oven you can cook more than 1 at a time lol

more overall cooked, anyway, rather than rapidly cooked

[serene geyser]

whats the secret to talking less damage on damnation? why can i take 9 damage on heresy but i sometimes explode on damnation

[tight fog]

get good at dodge sliding

[grizzled aspen]

Learn to mix in pushing with dodging and dodge sliding.

[vocal pulsar]

the secret is stacking toughness, and dodging

[serene geyser]

dodging and swinging aint cutting it something is different but idk what

[vocal pulsar]

do not stack wounds unless you are doing a martyrdom build

[maiden path]

fake

[grizzled aspen]

If you get the numerical ui mod you can see how many dodges you have before they become ineffective.

[maiden path]

just keep swinging

let the toughness regen do it for you

[serene geyser]

it's also like never chip damage i just get downed real fast in a way that doesn't happen on 4s

[vocal pulsar]

if you are stacking toughness, and if you are dodging alot

and are still going down

then you have a positioning issue

[placid fiber]

What's funny is I didn't know what people meant by dodge sliding for the longest time lol

[serene geyser]

perhaps yeah

[placid fiber]

and I was still doing good at damnation

[serene geyser]

im used to rushing everything with chastise

[tight fog]

you can tank chips on toughness but if toughness depletes then use F to get some back and also gtfo to let it recharge

[vocal pulsar]

you have to know when to use it

[tight fog]

or w/e, you'll find a way that works for you

[vocal pulsar]

sometimes its better to dodge slide into a fight

[hushed knoll]

Hello Mankar

[serene geyser]

im like finishing them but like I definitely can't clutch

[grizzled aspen]

Dodge slide at gunners to cover more distance without getting shot.

[placid fiber]

Isn't that just sliding, instead of dodging then sliding after a dodge? >.>

[vocal pulsar]

and if you are about to get swung at by 90 dudes, chastise into them (even if its point blank) to stagger them and generate toughness.

[vocal pulsar]

sometiems you need to use chastise to disengage

[placid fiber]

^

[tight fog]

my honest advice is to run low int damn or normal damn for a while until you're very comfortable

thats basically what it boils down to

[serene geyser]

maybe that's it. i get flanked by lesser guys and ragers way more it feels like

[placid fiber]

the lesser guys are always on your ass, you gotta know you're gonna get flanked and be prepared to react to it

[serene geyser]

ive finished a high int with 1 death but hi int weirdly feels less explosive

[placid fiber]

the players were probably better as well

[tight fog]

^ that does make an enormous difference

[placid fiber]

Having competent randos makes the game so much easier lol

[serene geyser]

also like all my wipes were like trying to save a guy who went down

[tight fog]

its just about practice ultimately

[south folio]

prob because there's quite a few things that changes with difficulty increases

besides the usual damage/health increase

[tight fog]

youll get pwned a lot and then you'll start to get pwned less

[maiden path]

mods

[placid fiber]

Yeah, it takes time and knowledge and gear

[maiden path]

fish react him

[serene geyser]

i dont get pwned a lot i just get pwned in situations i feel like i never experienced on heresy

[hushed knoll]

[vocal pulsar]

you'll get better

just continue to play damnation and you will adapt

stay out of heresy, dont go back

[tight fog]

youll get more of a game sense, when is good to dive in, when to keep an escape route open, when you can just chew through everything

[serene geyser]

🫡

[placid fiber]

I think I learned Darktide as quickly as I did because I had played so much vt2 so avoiding melee strikes was a natural thing for me

[coarse birch]

Yeah game takes a while yo figure out and it can be pretty punishing

[south folio]

e.g., ranged enemies are quicker to shoot, reapers/gunners shoot for longer, the ranged damage reduction mechanic is less lenient, other stuff that i don't know but probably has subtle changes

[delicate shadow]

just run a bleed build and blame your teammates

[placid fiber]

The hardest part of Darktide was by far the shooters, for me

[serene geyser]

im not going back to heresy you get way more money for finishing a damnation run and i need this goddamn boltpistol with lethal proximity and run and gun

[coarse birch]

The best way to get good is never blame yourself you did perfect obviously

[lean lark]

theres no hard part in darktide

other than leveling up your character through all the bad players

[serene geyser]

well i want to like... be the guy that takes no damage and can ensure the run finishes

[hushed knoll]

[coarse birch]

I was joking anyway lol

[delicate shadow]

hi Orry Cake Stan

[lean lark]

taking no damage /=/ ensuring the run finishes

[serene geyser]

i just played with an ogryn that took less than a wound of damage

[coarse birch]

If you want to get to the point of essentially never losing hi intensity shock troop gauntlet itll just take time

[lean lark]

ok

[coarse birch]

Like a lot probably

[lean lark]

otherwise called "play in a full stack with good players"

[serene geyser]

i suppose

[placid fiber]

I mean I've taken 0 damage on damnation, before, or less than 100. It just depends on the players, your skill, and the ai director

[serene geyser]

step 1 is probably not flubbing the optimal crusher combos under pressure

[coarse birch]

If you can figure out why you go down and learn from it thatll make your life easier

Otherwise your kinda Brute forcing your way through

[coarse birch]

Eh if you can at least get one other good teammate even through randoms its very doable

[left iron]

Killing specials and elites before they manage to fuck up your team is the best way to mitigate damage and ensure runs go somewhere

[serene geyser]

i learned that if i stick to the player that takes the least damage i also take less damage

[placid fiber]

I mean I kinda did brute force my way into a skilled position by throwing myself at the problems until I adapted lol

[wicked lance]

dude im ngl

[placid fiber]

but I was a vt2 veteran as well lol

[wicked lance]

i dont know anything about this game

[lean lark]

you dont need anything other than your main and your main's best setup to beat the run

[fleet zealot]

beautiful cat with homophobia

[lean lark]

but the easiest thing you can possibly do in darktide

is play in a full stack

[wicked lance]

incredible ❤️

[serene geyser]

yeah this is the obj

[coarse birch]

Full stack of good players is ideal ye

[serene geyser]

nah if people can do auric solo i can carry a damnation

just gotta be more perfect

[lean lark]

doing an auric solo isnt a measurement of skill....

[placid fiber]

I also listened to the pros and took their advice lol

[lean lark]

skill is something thats depending on the situation you're in

[coarse birch]

Not needed but in terms of easiest win % its the easiest way

But i learned mostly through randoms

[maiden path]

gooning solo isnt a measurement of skill

[coarse birch]

It was like 700 or 800 hours of randos

[maiden path]

skill is something thats depending on the sexo your in

floss

[delicate shadow]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-team-hahaha-gif-18072160

[coarse birch]

And now another 700ish with friends

[placid fiber]

Randos suck lol

[coarse birch]

I didnt mind too much

Sometimes it got annoying when people died like 6 times

[placid fiber]

I knew from vt2 that some randos are useless lol

[lean lark]

most of my hours are in full pubs

ive mainly played with only 1 friend, occasionally a full stack

[serene geyser]

at least in damnation if you wipe it's like almost always within the first two minutes

[lean lark]

no

it isnt

[dark zealot]

ive basically never played with others

[lean lark]

you wipe whenever the situation goes to shit

[serene geyser]

that's been my experience going 4/3

[vocal pulsar]

usually not

[dark zealot]

just pubs

[vocal pulsar]

on certain maps its more likely to wipe in the first few mins

[lean lark]

wipes happen when someone makes a dumb mistake and reaps what they sow

i.e. not pushing a burster and making everyone take damage

or someone aggroing a group ahead early

[dark zealot]

okay but thats if funny

[lean lark]

so you're overrun with enemies

[frosty herald]

Almost every early wipe i had was on silo cluster

[serene geyser]

missing the charged overhead on a crusher with my crusher lol

[lean lark]

or blowing up a barrel and killing one of your teammates who was valuable

or not using a medpack

or an ammo crate

or a med stim

theres tons of variables

[dark zealot]

there is only one map where early wipes were a problem

and its the assassination with the bridge at the start

sometimes the game just throws unreasonable things at you

you have no where to run and no where to hide

[serene geyser]

i must become unreasonable

[dark zealot]

oh and if you make it into the sewer tunnels bellow? daemonhost

[serene geyser]

also with crusher/boltpistol/knives there's no good way to clutch rez 😦

[misty nova]

Stairway to hell

[lean lark]

almost like using not so good weapons has an impact on gameplay....

how curious....

[serene geyser]

what changes in auric?

you tryna tell me the crusher ain't good

[lean lark]

crusher overrated

its good dont get me wrong

[serene geyser]

youre overrated

[lean lark]

just overrated

[dark zealot]

every weapon we have is overrated at best

[lean lark]

bolt pistol is not good at all on the other hand

[dark zealot]

or there is just impossible expectations

[lean lark]

throwing knives are ok if you're on flamer so you can reach long range targets with good enough aim

[serene geyser]

i know bolt pistol is weak but im using it for a specific purpose and i got knives to snipe

[lean lark]

why knives to snipe when bolt pistol

you're doubling down

for no reason

[dark zealot]

cant solo a dozen crushers? build sucks

[serene geyser]

because im run and gunning with it to close distance on groups so i can bonk

[dark zealot]

like that isnt my problem

sure itd be nice if I can

[lean lark]

why would you run n gun with your boltpistol when you have fotf and crusher

run to the groups

[dark zealot]

but sometimes you just dont have an asspull to one shot something

[serene geyser]

cause it's fucking SICK

[fleet zealot]

then play commando vet

[dark zealot]

tbf why would you use the bolt pistol period

[fleet zealot]

it's a better hybrid class

[serene geyser]

i play it on commando vet too lmao

[lean lark]

bolt pistol only good on vet

but the n

[fleet zealot]

bolt pistol can onetap crushers on vet

[lean lark]

db is better than bolt on vet

so

lmao

[dark zealot]

revolver is better boltpistol

[placid fiber]

Bolt Pistol feels so underwhelming on the zealot...

[serene geyser]

im not using it as a worse revolver get out of here with that nonsense

[placid fiber]

I was honestly using my heavy sword over it for crushers

[lean lark]

bolt pistol is what if we get the bolter, make it worse, and make it look like a revolver

[dark zealot]

it only ever is a worse revolver though

[serene geyser]

you guys have a sickness for trying to make the bolt pistol a revolver

[placid fiber]

I am not making the bolt pistol a revolver, I don't use the revolver lol

[lean lark]

its a 0 cleave gun thats meant for single target damage

[dark zealot]

its either competing against the revolver or the boltgun

[lean lark]

but then doesnt deal good single target damage

[serene geyser]

the bolt pistol is instant pocket sand while zipping about

[lean lark]

so is revolver

and better

[serene geyser]

no revolver is kill 5 elites

[lean lark]

no?

revolver has cleave

[serene geyser]

the other revolver would be cool but it's so bad

[lean lark]

you can kill more than 5

in 5 rounds

[serene geyser]

oh sorry kill 5 infinite lines of elites

[dark zealot]

at least the other revolver is spammable

[lean lark]

other revolver is ok if you can aim and if you're vet

thats about it

[placid fiber]

I've never been on team revolver, but, I will say the revolver is much more specialized than the bolt pistol

[serene geyser]

i was trying it out on vet and it does so little damage and has no pen so the fgroaners can get down mr president people

[lean lark]

aim better

[dark zealot]

if you want to make something dissapear fast at range the revolver does it best

[coarse birch]

Revo is hard to compete with but its p blatantly overtuned

[spare talon]

Yeah, it specializes in everything

[placid fiber]

Tru

[serene geyser]

i don't want to make something disappear fast at range i want to hipfire explosions

[placid fiber]

I don't even use it and I know that much lol

[serene geyser]

guys i have beaten damnation im not bad im just average

jesus

[lean lark]

and?

[dark zealot]

damnation isnt even that bad

[placid fiber]

Maybe so we are just telling you, as people with more experience, what weapons are better

[lean lark]

im just telling you info

[serene geyser]

i have weapons that are better i have a surgical hand cannon zarona

[lean lark]

okay

[placid fiber]

Cool

[lean lark]

if you feel like you're losing too many games

go use it then

[serene geyser]

another soul off to revolver land good job everyone

[placid fiber]

Use what you want, just use something that performs well. If you complain about losing when you're using underwhelming gear that kinda on you

[grizzled aspen]

You're in zealout chat, just use bolt pistol as a setup weapon for scourge.

Puncture go brrrr.

[serene geyser]

i want to take less damage to start

yeah im trying to roll puncture

[lean lark]

to take less damage

deal more damage

number one

[placid fiber]

Using better equipment will help

[lean lark]

number two

to take less damage

[placid fiber]

and a better build

[lean lark]

pay more attention to your sorroundings and have a good talent tree

[serene geyser]

im using @royal vortex 's build

[lean lark]

number 3

killl disablers and specialists asap

[placid fiber]

Josho has the skill to pay the bills lol

[lean lark]

target number 1

[serene geyser]

YEAH AND I WANT THOSE SKILLS

[lean lark]

then play the game

[placid fiber]

You gotta work hard for them

[lean lark]

and get better with time

[serene geyser]

im gonna

[grizzled aspen]

You won't develop skills by using a hyper specialized build, either.

You need to work on core mechanics first.

[placid fiber]

Yeah my marty build is specialized in survival, so without the knowledge I have it would be almost useless

[grizzled aspen]

Dodging at the right time, having good target priority, good aim, etc.

(I lack the last one)

[placid fiber]

(I do too)

[grizzled aspen]

But you get the idea.

[lean lark]

there is no universal good build on zealot (except for mine after i revise the ranged option post fotf nerf)

[grizzled aspen]

You aren't gonna be able to do much without core skills being good and polished.

[dark zealot]

lets do damnation with this terrible gear

[placid fiber]

Yeah, you gotta learn before you do hyper-specific builds

[serene geyser]

just gotta polish them on 5s im past 4s

[grizzled aspen]

Are you, though?

Be objective with this one, just because you can queue up for it doesn't mean you're ready for it.

[placid fiber]

5s have better players, more often. I still do not expect competence from randos tho even on damnation

[grizzled aspen]

There is nothing to be ashamed of about the difficulty you play on.

[placid fiber]

^

[serene geyser]

yeah this is my run two days ago for make every shot count in which i did an entire 4 with just a knife and 17 rezzes

[lean lark]

if you're playing on pubs dont trust your teammates

at all

[grizzled aspen]

I struggle with aurics so I don't queue up for those until after I've warmed up on normal damnation matches.

[lean lark]

do everything yourself

[placid fiber]

This

[serene geyser]

thats my plan yeah

[placid fiber]

Like I said: randos are unreliable

[serene geyser]

there are still somethings i that are tougher without threat dump and because i choose the bolt pistol

[placid fiber]

you gotta be ready to hard carry for no good reason

[grizzled aspen]

Considering someone had an overall score of 67, that looks less like you were doing well and more like your teammates were doing poorly.

[serene geyser]

i literally had to do it by myself only melee yes

[grizzled aspen]

Yeah, so you can't exactly pull that as an ego card to go into damnation and expect to come out on top.

[serene geyser]

im just saying i can run a 4 in a way i can't run a 5

[grizzled aspen]

All I'm recommending is checking your own ego before someone else does it for you.

[serene geyser]

bro YOU checked my ego

[grizzled aspen]

Yeah, I did.

I'm recommending for the future.

[serene geyser]

i clearly need to do work on 5s

[grizzled aspen]

I would polish my skills in 4s instead, if I were you.

[serene geyser]

nah

[grizzled aspen]

But I'm not you, so I can't force that.

Do as you will.

[placid fiber]

Like I use a different build than some people, since it synergizes with me better. I know it is worse, but, I do better with it so I use it. I do not recommend my options, because they are worse.

[placid fiber]

I am?

[median steeple]

No not you

[grizzled aspen]

And thats valid, but the big question is, can you survive?

[placid fiber]

Yep

I can solo clutch too

[grizzled aspen]

Then that's all that matters.

[placid fiber]

Exactly

If I couldn't survive I would use a build that helps me survive

[grizzled aspen]

I dont care what your weapons are or what your talent tree looks like as long as you perform at my level or better.

[maiden path]

is that walter whites wife

[serene geyser]

imma get there

[placid fiber]

I won't guarantee your level of skill, but, I will try my hardest

[serene geyser]

im 7 damnations in

[grizzled aspen]

(though I do care a little bit about the weapon choice, ciag idiots munching ammo still enrages me)

[lean lark]

this is my pre fotf nerf build for zealot

[grizzled aspen]

(like I need ammo too mf)

[lean lark]

that covers everything

armor enemies, flesh, bosses

survivability

[placid fiber]

My build does everything well besides doing a lot of damage to bosses

[lean lark]

now with fotf nerfed i need to see what can replace bolter

[placid fiber]

I do decent boss damage, just not exceptional boss damage

I am focusing on the side threats more, than the boss, tho lol

[serene geyser]

anyways what changes between damnation and auric

[grizzled aspen]

Think of aurics like damnation histg missions, every time.

[placid fiber]

auric is basically like high int

[grizzled aspen]

Even the heresy aurics.

[placid fiber]

^

[serene geyser]

interesting

[grizzled aspen]

They are...

Not fun.

[lean lark]

auric has more often hordes, bigger hordes

bigger enemy groups

[serene geyser]

not fun??

[grizzled aspen]

Yes, not fun.

Yknow how I asked that you keep your ego in check?

[lean lark]

the game isnt fun because theres no new content

[grizzled aspen]

Lots of people don't know how to and queue up for aurics without the skills to back it up.

[serene geyser]

bro lmao

im not queuing for auric until i can run a 5

[coarse birch]

Histg is great i dont like maelstrom much though

[grizzled aspen]

They rush in and get immediately pummeled to death and wonder why they died.

[coarse birch]

Feels gimmicky

[ember loom]

auric is fun if you like the challenge but it can get frustrating if one of your team mates don't know what they're doing

[grizzled aspen]

Or they get obliterated by shooters instantly.

[frozen glen]

aurics are great until its just mutie and dog spam modifier

[serene geyser]

is it more of a premade thing

[grizzled aspen]

Yes.

[ember loom]

nah just pug it

[north sedge]

maelstrom was fun for a while but it's been a minute since they've mixed/added to the modifiers

[ember loom]

it's rly not that bad imo

[grizzled aspen]

You want a pre-made team for aurics most of the time.

[median steeple]

Tox bomber modifier

[grizzled aspen]

Pubs are way more difficult than they need to be.

[median steeple]

That will make maelstroms great again

[serene geyser]

needs chaos wastes

[grizzled aspen]

This one, commissar.

[placid fiber]

I'm honestly not really interested in maelstroms since I don't want to put that much stress on myself, due to how I play.

[grizzled aspen]

Take him away.

[ember loom]

i like maelstrom mode with all scab

[placid fiber]

I don't want to panic myself to the point of adrenaline just for a "challenge"

[left iron]

Speak of the devil

[lean lark]

maelstorms peaked on launch

[ember loom]

gives me an excuse to bring the hammer more often

[grizzled aspen]

That one isn't that bad if you're a hammer zealout or bb psyker. Maybe skullbreaker ogryn is also alright.

[lean lark]

yawn

[serene geyser]

4s aint got stuff like 12 ragers 12 crushers

[lean lark]

ez maelstorm

[ember loom]

bullgryn goes hard in this mode

[left iron]

It can be as easy as it wants, its just a spam of the most boring enemies

[grizzled aspen]

Oh right because no shooters.

[lean lark]

melee only mode gets eaten alive by just a single trauma staff psyker

[grizzled aspen]

Pickaxe must go hard af in scab only maelstrom.

[lean lark]

really not a hard mode

after mass hysteria about it went down

[grizzled aspen]

It's only a bad mode for veterans.

[placid fiber]

Pickaxe is goated on ogryn, I will say that for sure

[grizzled aspen]

No ammo is rough.

[lean lark]

not really

you get ammo from survivalist

[ember loom]

did a melee maelstrom with an emptied plasma gun and a chainsword. was intense since the game gave me no ammo lol

[lean lark]

also plasma gun exists for that gamemode

[placid fiber]

On the no ammo one I generally just take my kantrael, since I can snipe with it and not use a ton of ammo

[frozen glen]

the mk 6 powersword vet oneshotting every crusher with a single pa

[placid fiber]

Literally the only one I bring the kantrael xii on tho

[ember loom]

you can one shot crushers with the mk6?

[placid fiber]

And I don't recommend that gun... it is just ammo efficient and decent for specials.

A horrible zealot gun, tho

[grizzled aspen]

It would be better if ghost was just straight suppression resistance instead of immunity on weak spot hit.

[fleet zealot]

yes

focus target+ mk6 activated PA

[ember loom]

interesting. i didnt know that. only keystone i actually like on vet is the weapon specialist

[serene geyser]

weapon specialist is sublime

[median steeple]

I hate weapon spec so much

The penance has ruined that keystone for me

[fleet zealot]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UG3Huou-1ZI

[spare talon]

The solution was using a surgical revolver

[fleet zealot]

warning loud

[spare talon]

I got it done in almost 2 games

[median steeple]

That clip with the no hit reg I have is me doing that penance

This game has a shit sense of cosmic humor

[spare talon]

With an infantry lasgun?

[median steeple]

Yes because I don't have a single zarona

[spare talon]

Skill issue

Get to gambling

[spare talon]

Tbh you could have just bought a random one then slapped surgical on it assuming you had one

Since all that needed to happen was the crit

[ember yew]

my favorite spec

so i can play vet 99% same as zealot

and F(Shout) is now even better than chastise

[median steeple]

I'm too support pilled to take off focus target

I love pointing at something and it disintegrating

[ember yew]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-it-yes-thats-it-that-right-there-omg-that-thats-what-i-mean-gif-17579879

[median steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/vesuvius-baby-baby-ash-gif-2339947883921805569

[fleet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/marcille-stomps-little-tantrum-moment-dunmeshi-delicious-in-dungeon-dungeon-meshi-gif-2500533526613992823

[dark zealot]

DID IT

[slate void]

Am I just shit with the new weapons or did the game get a lot harder with the new patch

[dark zealot]

oooo

[solar gorge]

i'm done with the new map

just got it twice in a row

and everyone knows what to do now

it's not hard in pubs anymore

[slate void]

It's so fucking Big and Wide

[dark zealot]

first time i played it and a daemon host spawns infront of the only way forwards

you can barely sneak past it

but like its so close if the ogryn farts the wrong direction itll snap

[misty nova]

Shooters became dangerous
New weapons aren't really good at killing
Ragers are even more dangerous

[slate void]

Oh thank God I thought I was just stupid