#zealot-class

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sly mauve
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tahts why i run revolver

north sedge
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No they don't

slate void
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I've noticed that Crushers have a tendency to just ignore my revved attacks and fucking wallop me

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Maulers I can just onetap with a bodyshot and 25% flak

sly mauve
fresh rover
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What keystone do you run?

sly mauve
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momentum

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thers the momentum and cleave route or the crit

fresh rover
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Okay thanks

latent vortex
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i am so surprised you aren't getting mega clowned on in here for this statement

north sedge
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I'm letting the gif do the clowning

latent vortex
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so many builds that allow you to kill a crusher within 1-5 hits

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SO many

sly mauve
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did yo ever use a ds4 or deimos

latent vortex
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yes

calm wolf
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what is sutility on the new maces?

sly mauve
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those deal dmg

calm wolf
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Finesse

sly mauve
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rashad takes ages compared to a ds4 which can two shot

royal vortex
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kid named catachan combat blade

north sedge
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And the crusher just shuts off crushers while killing them at a solid speed

latent vortex
north sedge
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And chaxe and etc etc

latent vortex
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chaxe, chsword, evis, daggers, rashad

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all very sustainable damage to armor

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even the caxe too right?

north sedge
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Yep

sly mauve
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minum to barely 5 shot them

north sedge
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Lol

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Chaxe is a one shot

sly mauve
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as i said

north sedge
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Look with some practice i think you too could eventually handle crushers on zealot

royal vortex
sly mauve
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i dont have problems with crushers, i just say that every other class is better than zealots

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at kílling them

bitter yoke
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Has anyone tried buffed perfected strike on the evi’s is performance better?

north sedge
ember yew
north sedge
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It's just a small amount of crit, it's still the same

bitter yoke
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I was so happy

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Up rip now

ember yew
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in game one wont provide the correct bonus

sly mauve
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cope harder dude

bitter yoke
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Damn

ember yew
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but CD is worthless sadly

bitter yoke
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Yea I guess so

oak delta
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Oh no, my high crit class suffers from extra crit damage.

bitter yoke
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Damn why did they have to bait us like this

north sedge
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Pretty sure it is chance

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Tooltip wrong

ember yew
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and it wasnt crit chance

bitter yoke
ember yew
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unless they fixed it yesterday or something

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since i have a bunch of stuff with perfect strike

north sedge
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exhil checked ze code

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when the patch hit

haughty haven
north sedge
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😬

vestal pine
haughty haven
ember yew
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both are worthless for this one

vestal pine
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but i'd use it for the funny skullcrusher thunderous hammer

haughty haven
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lol

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so buy it and grab Skullcrusher?

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Milkman

ember yew
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dont waste melk points on that unless you got an abundance of those

frosty herald
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Hang onto it until the itemization update

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Otherwise its just not good

hearty lily
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when it comes to the special attack for that one handed sword (counter hit), does it hit harder if you counter a strong attack?

ripe heron
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no

hearty lily
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dang

fleet zealot
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Business meeting

ripe quest
bitter yoke
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Thx exhi your mining provvidential as usual can’t wait to see how it performs

ember yew
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the value wont chance if you equip it

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its the same 5%

ripe quest
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I can take a look but its bonus is that it applies +crit chance.

fleet zealot
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Warning horrors of the warp

smoky slate
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y not just run shroudify build with mercy killer uncanny strike I know its lame but it solves ur problem

ripe quest
ember yew
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i went to test it day 1 and it's disappointing at best

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not like its gonna add anything with 7.5 critdamage

north sedge
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i cant believe exhil lied to us all, zealot is dead!

royal vortex
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how can i handle crushers without that crit chance

sly mauve
thick nacelle
solar gorge
thick nacelle
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We need the light of the mighty emperor to clean this channel of its heresy

fleet zealot
thick nacelle
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😂

fleet zealot
thick nacelle
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U tell me i have a pfp of a wolf, u have a pfp of a furret

fleet zealot
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Yea but it’s a real ferret because i post irl ferrets

thick nacelle
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Yes, i know

fleet zealot
thick nacelle
fleet zealot
thick nacelle
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Its probably a feature i haven't experienced in game

fleet zealot
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Zealot is certainly a class of all time i can assure you all my ferrets are loyally trained to pray to the god emperor

fleet zealot
hushed knoll
fleet zealot
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Fuck u stan

hushed knoll
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That's not your title

fleet zealot
hushed knoll
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No.

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You are Rizzler Blow Chair

ionic spear
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bois

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what am i looking for in a mk 15 evi

hushed knoll
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Tren is that you in your pfp

ionic spear
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yes

hushed knoll
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I want you to crush my head in your biceps

fleet zealot
ionic spear
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but only if you tell me what a good mk 15 evi looks like

fleet zealot
hushed knoll
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I don't use evis feelsbadman

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I use the superior chain sword

hushed knoll
fleet zealot
left iron
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Its chord you heathen

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Use its proper name

ionic spear
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no bicep crushing for you

hushed knoll
hushed knoll
fleet zealot
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Stop lying

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It’s a sin

hushed knoll
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Mircorwaving ice cream should be normalized

fleet zealot
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U are the abnormal

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Don’t be ashamed

hushed knoll
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Microwaving*

ionic spear
hushed knoll
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Nice roll

slate void
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Not 73, into the trash with it /j

ionic spear
hushed knoll
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Too bad it's not a CHAIN SWORD

ionic spear
slate void
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Mood

ionic spear
left iron
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Only 200k?

hushed knoll
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Pluhhhh

slate void
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I still gotta farm the new event to try to afford the money to roll for good weapons

ionic spear
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me too

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i just wanted to get to level 30 on zealot

slate void
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The only class that actually lucked out and got decent Machine weapons was my Veteran
Who got the shockmaces

ionic spear
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pls tho, how make better

hushed knoll
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I just spent tons of stuff getting a decent bolt pistol and now I don't like it ARREMBESTMODXD

slate void
ionic spear
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i hate this game

frosty herald
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shred and rampage are good for evis 15

slate void
ionic spear
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maybe

ionic spear
slate void
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Just do what I do when I don't have blessings
MEEEEEEEEELK

ionic spear
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is boltgun viable or should i choose sum different

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marty build

slate void
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I only use bolter on Veteran

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Draw and reload speed is just too long otherwise

ionic spear
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oof i kinda need shred

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ok not bad

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whicih perk to carapace armor tho

slate void
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I'd say Unyielding

frosty herald
frosty herald
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good enough

merry flume
smoky slate
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shroudify is so broken as is

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20 percent on backstab is more than generous

grizzled aspen
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Isn't that backstab talent broken?

merry flume
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20% is generous but sometimes the game will just not detect that you got a backstab kill

grizzled aspen
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I remember someone telling me not to use it because it didn't work.

smoky slate
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yeah I think it should just be on crit kill

merry flume
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especially if you have scourge on, sometimes the bleed will take your kill

smoky slate
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or something

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idk

merry flume
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love getting a crit backstab just for it to take 2 bleed damage and not give me cdr

smoky slate
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its buggy but even when the talent doesnt work shroudify just outshines most other zealot builds

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and if you're a really good player thats just amplified ten fold

merry flume
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trying to make shock maul shroud work it but throws enemies around too much to reliably get backstabs with it

merry flume
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i don't mind it

grizzled aspen
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I don't think any zealout ability outshines another at all. All 3 are equally justified.

merry flume
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shock maul would have been a good weapon if it was the first "paired" weapon

north sedge
merry flume
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like it needs a little shock buckler

smoky slate
fleet zealot
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with the fotf nerf yea, i'd say stealth and fotf are fairly even

north sedge
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🤔

fleet zealot
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i hate chorus and am biased

grizzled aspen
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Fotf is good for monstrosity slaying and murdering carapace. Chorus helps when your team gets in a pickle. Shroudfield lets you get a reset off and lets you pick off nasty targets.

grizzled aspen
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Like shroud with 10s cooldown is gonna be strong af. Chorus having a shorter cooldown can be even stronger.

real frigate
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hi im noob plz help

grizzled aspen
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Ooo that's a hard one...

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I'm not touching that for fear of bricking your chaxe.

merry flume
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it's simple, make crit weakspots 3 seconds a hit and regular crits 1 second

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keep the same internal cooldown

smoky slate
grizzled aspen
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I know block efficiency has definitely gotta go but I'm not sure whether thrust or bloodletter would be better to replace.

smoky slate
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also

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on a completely unrelated note

merry flume
grizzled aspen
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Shroud has horde clear???

smoky slate
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what is dump stat for heavy eviscerator

grizzled aspen
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You must be joking.

smoky slate
north sedge
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get rid of bloodletter

grizzled aspen
north sedge
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it's crap

grizzled aspen
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But I may also be insane.

merry flume
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bloodletter is ok

smoky slate
north sedge
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you either want thrust headtaker or headtaker slaughterer

grizzled aspen
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I thought bloodletter allowed for mauler 1shots?

north sedge
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dump stat is always mobility

merry flume
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yes

north sedge
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you know what else allows for mauler one shots

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power

merry flume
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yeah but try to fullsaw a group of 10 maulers

grizzled aspen
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At that point you just fuckin run away.

merry flume
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as zealot?

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nah, i'd win

north sedge
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bloodletter aint helping you there either

smoky slate
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I am so glad ppl r touching chainaxe

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I have like

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140 hours with that weapon alone

grizzled aspen
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If I have any more than 3 maulers on me I'm fucking off as far as I can get until I get assistance.

merry flume
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thunderous headtaker

smoky slate
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I think is very fun and skill expressive weapon that can do a lot

grizzled aspen
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Unless I'm psyker, because then I can just poke their heads until they're all dead.

north sedge
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thunderous is not very good either

merry flume
grizzled aspen
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Thunderous would be good if rev ticks worked as hits.

merry flume
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they do???

grizzled aspen
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No, they don't.

north sedge
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they dont

grizzled aspen
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Anything that says "on hit" only counts the initial impact of rev weapons as a hit.

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The rest of the ticks do not count as hits.

merry flume
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good thing the chainaxe is also a m1 spamming weapon

visual stream
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What's the point of applying multiple stacks of a small amount of brittleness when they could just make it one big stack of more brittleness, unless it decays one at a time maybe?

north sedge
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thunderous is generally just bad

grizzled aspen
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I would assume it decays 1 at a time, much like all other debuffs do.

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Bleed, fire, and soulblaze all go down 1 at a time.

smoky slate
grizzled aspen
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Please don't be ego-ing a weapon.

visual stream
grizzled aspen
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That is the dumbest shit I've ever seen be argued here.

south folio
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debuffs usually decay all at once

merry flume
south folio
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it's just DoTs that decay one by one

smoky slate
grizzled aspen
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Ah, I see.

smoky slate
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I think

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chain axe

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is v versatile

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wait

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what chain axe r we talking about

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the original or the second 1 they added

grizzled aspen
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Mk4.

merry flume
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the original one i think

smoky slate
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okay yeah

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nvm

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actually brainless weapon

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the second 1 is good

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and skill expressive

grizzled aspen
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They're both brainless weapons.

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Same with eviscerators.

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Turn brain off, heavy or light spam depending on model.

ripe quest
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They are quite literally moveset flips, both are brainless if one is brainless.

smoky slate
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so is like 80 percent of zealots kit

grizzled aspen
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Yes.

merry flume
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theres no skill based weapon in the entire game

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everything is click until dead

smoky slate
merry flume
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LMAO

grizzled aspen
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That's like 80% of every kit is to be completely brainless.

south folio
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wha

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who the fuck is calling power sword a skill weapon

smoky slate
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idk I havent used in since release

grizzled aspen
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Mastering something in this game takes approximately 30 seconds if you have opposable thumbs.

twilit blade
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Crusher combos feel vaguely thoughtful

merry flume
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you can cat stare react me but you know im right

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yeah but you can also just spam m1 with crusher and do perfectly fine

grizzled aspen
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There are no skill based weapons.

smoky slate
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ok so completely unrelated

grizzled aspen
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Looking at you, knife users.

frosty herald
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crusher shock maul branx pickaxe

smoky slate
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what r ur thoughts on bolt pistol

merry flume
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i like it

grizzled aspen
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Good.

twilit blade
smoky slate
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this is a general question

grizzled aspen
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I like using it as a setup weapon for scourge.

smoky slate
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I think its v strong

twilit blade
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I wish it could be a bit more usable

twilit blade
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Either a little less recoil to make up for its poor relative damage or more damage to compensate for it's rough recoil

smoky slate
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I used it on sharpshooter veteran in sniper gauntlet

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was so fun

ripe quest
hushed knoll
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Are you doing gen alpha language

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Like phantom tax

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Or whatever it is

grizzled aspen
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The fanum tax.

hushed knoll
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Oh

grizzled aspen
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You're so skibidi.

hushed knoll
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Ew please no

grizzled aspen
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And all other forms of brain rot.

merry flume
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skitarii toilet

twilit blade
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Maybe i need to get a bleed bolt pistol and try it on a momentum setup. Playing it crit felt a bit too variable

ripe quest
twilit blade
twilit blade
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Sometimes it feels like I need to deliberately stare down the gunners to make it shoot strait

grizzled aspen
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It's really nice to just use it as a quickdraw weapon and blast something point blank.

merry flume
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i find it to be more accurate from the hip than ads

grizzled aspen
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Same.

merry flume
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hi mankar are you playing rn

smoky slate
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I replaced my revolver on zealot with bolt pistol just because I like the noises better

grizzled aspen
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Can the special melee push ragers out of combo?

merry flume
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revolver actually trivializes the game for me, i have negative fun using it

twilit blade
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But also, crafting update sounds too promising for me to try and get into the game deeply right now

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Every time I start it back up the crafting grind for new weapons just kills my vibe

fleet zealot
merry flume
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more unique weapons that have it's own place in the game

smoky slate
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I have been playing zealot the last like

merry flume
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not just regular guns

smoky slate
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several months

smoky slate
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and I honesstly think its broken

merry flume
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if winning is how you have fun then you will love the revolver

visual stream
smoky slate
merry flume
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i used the lawbringer with manstopper for a few months befoer the update

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funny to make entire hordes vanish

twilit blade
rough dune
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I checked pins, but I don't see any great recent builds. Is there like a holy trinity of builds right now with guides?

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I don't trust gameslantern stuff.

twilit blade
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So all the new stuff is just doesn't feel very attainable

merry flume
visual stream
rough dune
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Just to see what the current metas are, I guess. It's been awhile since I played.

merry flume
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gameslantern builds is just "i need to win at all costs"

fleet zealot
smoky slate
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I think my fav build to play is support zealot

twilit blade
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Still can't believe they nerfed my crusher

visual stream
fleet zealot
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my favorite way to play zealot is frontline vanguard

smoky slate
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I havent looked at them

fleet zealot
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killing everything taht could be a threat to my team

rough dune
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Was using this last I played

visual stream
visual stream
rough dune
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It feels poopy.

smoky slate
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the real meta is actually abusing adderall so your brain is so alert of every single audio cue

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btw

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that is a joke

rough dune
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proceeds to hide adderall

smoky slate
merry flume
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i would never waste my addy on this game

visual stream
smoky slate
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If u want to teach him coherency efficiency I recommend not taking the radius increase

visual stream
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For the sober folk in chat the alternative to adderall is breathing exercises but the opposite of what they want you to do

smoky slate
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is 4 percent combat ability regen on curio better than 2-3 percent toughness on chorus

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I havent really touched curios much

visual stream
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Ability regen is usually not worth it but with chorus you could argue it is because of the long CD

smoky slate
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I am a psyker main I just been playing zealot cuz I dont want to do gun psyker

smoky slate
visual stream
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If you're gonna take it then triple up on it or it really is nothing KEKW_ogryn

merry flume
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am i a bad person for leaving a lobby of a mission (the new one) because i was the only person on my team that didn't have a kickback or a purg staff

merry flume
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im not trying to get swiss cheesed for the next 40 minutes

smoky slate
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when I am done farming dockets for the day I will change the docket increase to combat ablity gen and let you guys know if theres a notable difference

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I lied I am going to do it rn

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I just want to have fun rn

fleet zealot
smoky slate
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also

fleet zealot
smoky slate
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what do u think I should go for

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yeah

fleet zealot
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sprint efficiency gone

smoky slate
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its my first transcendant 1

fleet zealot
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i don't know the BPs for bolt pistol so if you have time i'd go into meatgrinder

smoky slate
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this would be better if mobility wasnt lwo

fleet zealot
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and check flak/ maniac, cara unyielding etc to see what will help

fleet zealot
smoky slate
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oh

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is mobility dump stat

fleet zealot
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mobilty it is dump stat you've lost one dodge which hurts but damage infinitely better

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anyways

smoky slate
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ok

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I dont use eviscerator

fleet zealot
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mk15 wants rampage+ 1 other blessing, savage sweep is not good since mk15 has a hard damage cap of 4 targets

fleet zealot
# smoky slate ok ty

crit chance perk also isn't very good more so for the oppurtunity cost, it's always better to get 25% to an important armor type or 10% elites

smoky slate
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this is exclusively for support zealot

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so what do u think

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I should use

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I dont really like eviscerator outside of chorus

ionic spear
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mk 15 evi or the other one

smoky slate
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this is the 14

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15

fleet zealot
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"support zealot" should still focus on damage first

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if not more so because chorus kills your personal DPS

smoky slate
fleet zealot
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with the crit cdr changes? Chsword or knife, not evi, crit cdr was nerfed to once per swing instead of once per target and evi never had exceptional crit ratios

smoky slate
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when I was doing perks

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on this

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I put 10 percent elites

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on it

fleet zealot
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meanwhile knife has some of the highest crit ratio in the game and chsword has a quirk where crit damage specifically doesn't fall off as it cleaves through targets

smoky slate
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idk

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just my opinion

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I see ppl run it and question how they dont perform

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also

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for chorus zealot curios

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should I go for toughness or max health

fleet zealot
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toughness

smoky slate
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I figured

fleet zealot
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maybe 2x toughness 1x hp based on comfort

smoky slate
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thats what I do

fleet zealot
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max toughness scales all your % toughness gain in tree making everything marginally more effective

smoky slate
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for shroudify its max health because inebrious poise and just free toughness regen right

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ngl I wanna go for the but a flesh wound penance I got heavy demotivated to do it because I was 1 minute off

fleet zealot
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shroudfield? no still toughness

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only a few people prio HP and it's not from a specific builds, just some niche zealots who go 3x HP and take the restoring faith talent

smoky slate
fleet zealot
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WHAT THER FUCK IS SHROUDIFY?

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and like

smoky slate
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its so op

north sedge
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it's like spotify

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but quiet

smoky slate
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ngl

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I have dyslexia

fleet zealot
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of course as long as you show up you'll perform

smoky slate
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so I constantly read it as shroudify

wicked slate
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I love that the latest updates broke my Combat Knife and Eviserator Crit builds 🫠

smoky slate
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just found out its called shroudfield

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damn

fleet zealot
fleet zealot
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evi yea, rough, but it was stupid to get your ability back every other swing

smoky slate
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I barely noticed a change in knife

wicked slate
north sedge
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🤔

fleet zealot
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it pushes crit back into a niche build instead of "lol everything works with crit build cause IT'S FUCKING stupid op"

fleet zealot
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lol

smoky slate
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sure bossing isnt as good

fleet zealot
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no knife is great at bossing lol

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just push attack the head

smoky slate
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I said its not as good

fleet zealot
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what are we smoking here

smoky slate
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with the nerfs

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still like

wicked slate
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They used to be crazy.

fleet zealot
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LOL nothing got nerfed

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with knife monstro killing

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y'all smoking that heretic pack

wicked slate
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The shroudfield damage/crit got adjusted a long time ago

visual stream
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Knife is still chair sweat stains good

ripe quest
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There was a swap to an additive modifier instead of a multiplicative one but that was over half a year ago

fleet zealot
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that was half a year ago and that wasn't even knife's best tool for monstros

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just heavy-> push attack spam on the pogryns head and you kill it

wicked slate
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Could someone adjust my perms so I could post screenshots?

fleet zealot
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no, it's automatic

wicked slate
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ah

fleet zealot
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it's a combination of time spent on the server X interacting through text

wicked slate
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Noted.

median steeple
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if you have a screenshot taken by something like gyazo you can just post the link and people can go to it

wicked slate
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I could quickly upload it to Imgur I guess

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Would that work?

smoky slate
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ngl

north sedge
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yea anything you can link to

wicked slate
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👍

smoky slate
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I wish I tried chorus zealot with heavy evi before the deaths invocation nerf

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I was gonna ask a question but I am going to try it myself in a lower mission so if it doesnt work out I am not griefing

wicked slate
smoky slate
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send me the images ill post them for u

fleet zealot
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crit hit damage on revolver isn't too good but it's locked so not a prob i guess

wicked slate
fleet zealot
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and for your evi crit perk isn't worth it

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vs 25% damage to an important armor type or 10% elites

wicked slate
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Yeah they're old but worked great when they did

fleet zealot
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your knife is shit

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flamer is good, tho OP has been bugged for a while now

median steeple
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its never getting fixed is it

fleet zealot
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it doesn't buff the burn damage (blaze away does) overpressure just been bugged for who knows how long

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but yea, for zealot you want uncanny strike+ riposte, precognition, or executor (executor on mk6 only)

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if you want to force bleed

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for the LOVE of the emperor

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go flesh tearer over lacerate

wicked slate
#

Alright

fleet zealot
#

and just going to repeat, crit chance perk is a waste of a slot

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5% more crit chance on a crit build that gets over 50% crit chance from existing does not have a meaningful impact

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and 25% to armor and 10% elite/specs buffs the bleed damage

ionic spear
#

do evi share blessings

#

pls say eys

wicked slate
#

Adjusting the knife I think would be eaisiest of all my builds

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since the blessings I can change

#

Here's all the main weapons I got. With the itemization rework I'm not too concerned. I enjoy combat knife and evis. build the most...so if you know the best build for those two feel free to DM me.

median steeple
#

if so yes they should

smoky slate
#

if I were to use knife for chorus zealot what blessings should I go for

ionic spear
ember yew
wicked slate
ember yew
#

Riposte + Mercy Killer also works for me, but w/e

merry flume
#

now that i can prime targets with my boltpistol, this on a momentum build actually is nasty

wicked slate
fleet zealot
#

mercy killer isn't bad

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but precognition is literally better

#

mercy is just weakspot damage, precog is weakspot and crit damage

wicked slate
#

noted

fleet zealot
#

since knife has great crit adms

merry flume
#

this is ideal but it takes a bit for the dmg to ramp up

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but once you get your stacks and you dodge once gg ez

fleet zealot
#

weakspot damage perk scales terribly with fatshark math

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and uhh, dodging is easy asf tbh esp with knife

merry flume
#

honestly i'd rather take flesh tearer on this

fleet zealot
#

trash shooters shooting more means more dodgeable

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and knife has some of the best dodges in the game

merry flume
#

yeah i went back to knife so i could use any ranged i want

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and it just works

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i'm being shot? i can run 1000mph towards shooters and dodge slide at the same time to kill them

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too many enemies? shroud

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crushers? lmao knife

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also precog and duelist still interact with each other and once you see how much damage that nets you, you will not want to try anything else

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precog/duelist flesh tearer ticks WearyOK

low gulch
#

What's the best blessing to pair with puncture on a bolt pistol? deadly accurate?

merry flume
#

run n gun

low gulch
merry flume
#

100% crit weakspot damage

low gulch
#

sure but still

merry flume
#

the boltpistol pretty much oneshots anything up to mauler with a headshot already

#

and if your other perk is puncture you have no way of getting a crit rate high enough to actually capitalize on the extra damage

#

it'll net you some chunky kills when it procs but who's to say when it will actually proc

#

plus how inaccurate it is, you'll probably kill it just through raw damage before you get a headshot on it

low gulch
#

Cool. I'll have to play around a bit with it

merry flume
#

yeah, if you still wanna mess around with deadly accurate i would get surgical as your other perk

#

that way you have a on demand crit headshot

low gulch
#

yeah. If going the deadly/surgical route, which one should I go with?

merry flume
#

if you're trying to squeeze out every little bit of damage: right
but the left one will be more consistent with kills

low gulch
#

yeah not that much difference dmg stat-wise, and I can't say I noticed a big dif with the collateral. if anything i miss a bit of maniac dmg with the right one

merry flume
#

yeah 67 to 80 is what, like 3%

#

collat is just stagger as well

#

so 🤷‍♂️

#

you might see more rager staggers with left

low gulch
#

yeah that's where I notice the biggest differences

vital gyro
#

What you think? 1A, Sprint Eff to Flakiac, Falter to Thrust?

median steeple
#

pretty sure thrust isnt that good on the saul

solar gorge
#

definitely not on the indignatus

#

i haven't used the agni but i assume it's not good awsell

vital gyro
#

ok, I'll cull the blessings and reroll a couple Indignatus then?

smoky slate
#

@ epsilon wanted me to send

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these

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@wicked slate

#

i think thats all of them

wicked slate
#

If anyone has any thoughts you're welcome to @ or DM me. I'm not super concerned since the itemization rework is gonna be a thing. Mostly use the following builds:

  • Combat Knife + Flamer
  • Heavy Evis. + Revolver (since I have really good aim lol)
stark mantle
#

anyone got a good roll for the new shotgun?

median steeple
#

I run rull bore/both barrels

#

there is some other rolls you could run as well like manstopper I've seen

ripe quest
#

Man-Stopper + Both Barrels + Shroudfield crit CDR = Melta Gun RP

#

"yes I'd like to turn all of the enemies infront of me into mist"

median steeple
coarse dagger
#

what type of zealot would my friend's gnome be

median steeple
#

evil being (stealth zealot)

coarse dagger
#

oh he's like me fr

maiden path
#

death stranding 2 is coming out tomorrow

#

hideo kojima said

ivory marlin
#

Guys

#

I hit the fucking jackpot

frosty herald
ivory marlin
#

This is my car, went to the junkyard today with my dad to get some parts

#

We got everything we need aside from a bumper and lights

maiden path
#

its ps3 exclusive

#

using new rendering technology

maiden path
ivory marlin
#

Yeah

maiden path
#

lopsided radiator 😭

ivory marlin
#

It hit a deer

maiden path
#

LOL

#

strong ass deer

ivory marlin
#

Wasnt me who hit the deer i just bought the thing at an auction

ivory marlin
#

So true

low gulch
#

run n gun doesnt play well with my playstyle. What would you change it to?

valid junco
#

Surgical maybe.

sly mauve
rustic sapphire
#

As much as I like Surgical on other weapons, I don't find it pays off on the bolt pistol as much. I would try Deadly Accurate or Execution. Lethal Prox looks fun on paper, but I haven't tested it yet

sly mauve
#

antax with limbsplitter can oneshot crushers from behind

valid junco
#

Lethal Prox is fun enough. It can create an opening if you're surrounded (quickswap to bolt pistol, fire, and move into the space or something) or stagger close-by foes, but it only affects rounds shot inside 5m so I'm not 100% sure what it adds that a block push doesn't.

sly mauve
rustic sapphire
sly mauve
#

puncture execution is the best combination at least for spykers

spare talon
#

I've heard lp doesn't even properly work

sly mauve
#

just search a bit in the chat

smoky slate
#

or if ur feeling spicy

sly mauve
#

mk3 i guess

smoky slate
#

u can bring antax or chainaxe

spare talon
#

Don't sell the mk6 knife short

sly mauve
smoky slate
#

but if u fw the rashad

#

its fine

sly mauve
#

ty

#

wondering if the tac axes are useful for anything

spare talon
#

A knife regardless what mark can deal considerable and reliable damage to armor with a crit build even without uncanny strike

smoky slate
#

I love chainaxe so much so if I am not running the knife its prob that

spare talon
#

Chain axe can get headtaker slaughterer and thrust

smoky slate
spare talon
#

Why would you willingly give up one of those for rev it up

smoky slate
#

or bloodletter slaughterer

sly mauve
#

but they need thrust to oneshot

spare talon
#

Oh wait yall were talking about backstabs, are you talking about it for the penance or something

smoky slate
#

I am talking about off meta shroud weapons

#

that I think still perform if u dont want to be boring and use knife 24 7

spare talon
#

Literally any finesse weapon can use it to great effect

valid junco
# spare talon I've heard lp doesn't even properly work

I did some testing with this the other day: normally, a bolt round will not explode inside the target when it's inside 5m of you. It just hits and kills and no blast. At 5m and beyond it will arm and explode, and kills scatter a little damage to nearby enemies. Lethal Prox removes this 5m minimum distance so it will always explode on target kill, and increases the radius of the blast by up to 25% I've verified the 5m thing with a Locke Spearhead boltgun and found the same min-arming distance effect.

north sedge
#

Chaxe does not interact with shroud well

smoky slate
#

its silly 1 shotting a boss with bloodletter slaughterer after going invis

sly mauve
#

but chaxe cant one shot crushers from behind witth shroud active

north sedge
#

I mean, chain weapons don't interact with shroud properly

merry flume
#

this actually is pretty comfy to use if you can land headshots

merry flume
sly mauve
#

not without thrust

maiden path
#

chat is it bad I had pointer persision on

sly mauve
#

ah wait the new chaxe can do it without +elite and +carra

smoky slate
#

it doesnt synergize but its funyn

#

and who cares about playing optimally as long as ur having fun

drowsy steppe
#

I do

#

I hate people who dont optimize

#

they deserve jail time

smoky slate
maiden path
#

😎

ripe quest
#

Don't need Thrust if you use Martyr, even on the Mk IV.

#

or if you just stack damage

#

w/ Thrust you can 1 shot Crushers raw without talents last I checked.

north sedge
#

mk4 needs a couple buffs but nothing crazy i believe

spare talon
#

Which are basically always active

naive stirrup
#

agni mk la shock maul any good? not used any of the new weapons yet, stuck with my knife until just now, random gold drop

obsidian prairie
#

I tried a chaxe like once in vet and they do not pull punches

spare talon
naive stirrup
#

makes sense

#

will have to test them out

vocal pulsar
#

with no buffs actice

#

you need this setup for one shot

sly mauve
#

only thing is that the chaxe 15 does not have the horde clear capabilities of rashad

left iron
#

Wow, its almost like they're different weapons

ivory marlin
#

Hi ice

left iron
#

Hey there Gale's #1 fan

distant lagoon
#

How good you find the new shotgun?

median steeple
#

pre good

distant lagoon
#

What blessings are good for it?

hearty lily
#

Which of these should i go for? Is it as simple as 30% vs 20% damage?

#

Skullcrusher vs Opportunist

median steeple
drowsy steppe
#

go skullcrusher

distant lagoon
vast basin
#

skullcrusher is great, oppurtunist is not as good because the shock mauls have ok adms all around

median steeple
#

it's an anti everything weapon

#

double barrel brace fire is really good

#

crushers, bulwarks, and monstrosities will tank it but everything else will explode

ivory marlin
drowsy steppe
#

Im the token minority unfortunately

ivory marlin
#

No im the gay hispanic

drowsy steppe
#

youre a redskin

median steeple
maiden path
#

what if instead of ken his name was ben

#

and he went 'im just ben'

ivory marlin
median steeple
#

we have no pinks here

drowsy steppe
#

we respect no pink names here

drowsy steppe
maiden path
#

ouir names are orange

#

thats not red

left iron
#

Says the person whose entire existence in here was with a pink name

median steeple
#

mal has forsaken their heritage

drowsy steppe
#

not true

#

Ive always been a red

left iron
#

I will access the forbidden folder

drowsy steppe
#

youre just imagining things

left iron
#

Damn, i didnt even remember this

#

Anyway, case and point

#

Pink name

median steeple
#

christ how old is that

drowsy steppe
#

thats not me

left iron
#

Today at 11:37

median steeple
drowsy steppe
#

thats an impostor

drowsy steppe
left iron
#

The cursed days of

median steeple
#

when everyone was collectively losing their minds

drowsy steppe
#

💀

distant lagoon
#

How important both barrels is?

#

Wiktkhout it gun feels awful

left iron
#

Vet can do without it, not sure about zealot and psyker

#

Weapon specialist allows you to run around without reloading ever

lean lark
#

😂

drowsy steppe
#

since zealot's almost always in close range its pretty good to have, and fullbore is pretty hard to proc even at close range

#

actually true though lmao

#

FS update speed is something

median steeple
#

full bore is def playstyle reliant for db ime

#

space marine 2 has murdered my wallet

#

holy shiht

#

I'm addicted to the double barrel and it makes the using the other shotguns a slog

distant lagoon
median steeple
#

listen I don't control the economy

#

or inflation

drowsy steppe
#

I will not be using other shotguns anymore

#

DB has overtaken me

delicate shadow
#

better red than lead

median steeple
merry flume
#

new funny crash

median steeple
#

every melee weapon is same dumbass

merry flume
#

if you use power DI, if you have enough people ragequit from your mission it will autocrash the moment it opens

median steeple
#

you hit shit with it

delicate shadow
#

so true

patent patrol
#

I think this one turned out decent?

#

Just gotta change the perks

#

probably flak and maniac right?

#

or?

#

like is there a specific perk thing for it? Flak is usually always a mainstay aside from the rare occasions where Carapace is better

#

like on the crucis but

lean lark
#

ranged crit to flak/maniac (depends on you) and run n gun to fullbore or deathspitter

patent patrol
drowsy steppe
#

not fullbore

patent patrol
#

or something?

drowsy steppe
#

the weapon spread is too high for fullbore to proc reliably

patent patrol
#

is deathspitter the crit one?

drowsy steppe
#

power

patent patrol
#

or is that scattershot

#

ah.

drowsy steppe
#

scattershot is the crit

lean lark
#

what's the name of the one

#

thats also power

#

I can't remember

drowsy steppe
#

deathspitter?

#

lemme check

lean lark
#

wasn't there a third one like dmg on stagger or am I messing up with bolt pistol blessings

patent patrol
#

so wait is my weapon bad? or is unyielding actually good on it?

drowsy steppe
#

latter probs

patent patrol
#

well, bad as in not a 4/4 perk/blessing wise.

drowsy steppe
#

unyielding can do bulwark 1 shot

patent patrol
drowsy steppe
#

ye

#

DB can 1 shot muties without maniac

patent patrol
#

wait if it can one shot bulwarks can I blast through bosses too? Or at least, take chunks out of their health.

#

with it

drowsy steppe
#

alt fire has a high unyielding damage, weapon spread will inevitably happen though

patent patrol
#

also as it stands rn I can only run run n gun. I don't have many blessings for this weapon yet. I have a better stats ironhelm hacker but I wanted to test my luck with this one in case that one gets bricked.

patent patrol
#

basically.

leaden pebble
#

i wanna reinstall for the db but the crafting makes me wanna cry
i do not have the mats to be rolling brand new weapons lmao

drowsy steppe
#

yea it should still do good damage regardless

#

thats DT for ye

patent patrol
#

I made that other one in case I brick this one

#

we'll see how it goes.

#

if I DO brick it I'm hoping for deathspitter so I can snag that.

#

I say better stats cause higher range and reload speed with slightly lower damage and low mobility

#

I think that's technically better

#

since higher reload speed is nice for this weapon

#

I think

hushed agate
#

Reload speed is effectively fire rate so you want that high

patent patrol
patent patrol
#

if it is slightly low.

hushed agate
patent patrol
#

70% is "average" I think

#

right?

#

for like higher tier gear

hushed agate
#

Yeah

patent patrol
#

somehow

#

well, not somehow

#

the game always finds a way

#

to brick these weapons

hushed agate
#

Infested damagepogryn

patent patrol
#

ngl I can't wait for the new weapon system.

#

cause it'll make this a lot less RNG based from what I saw.

hushed agate
#

Locks are being removed in favor of a weapon progression tree

#

Might not be any less grindy but at least you wont be gambling

patent patrol
#

that's part of the issue

#

Honestly I like the idea

hushed agate
#

Im excited for it but some people arent

patent patrol
#

reason being, you have to actually play the game to power up your gear instead of having to gamble.

fervent plaza
patent patrol
#

god I love this weapon lol

#

I just got it and went into the meat grinder to fuck around with it

#

it's LITERALLY what I wanted in this game shotgun wise

hushed agate
#

I havent gotten to use it much yet. To busy dicking around with the bolt pistol

patent patrol
#

a shotgun with a lot of power and a satisfying kick.

patent patrol
#

it also is VERY satisfying to use.

#

cause god damn the kick it has

#

and the sound effects

#

MMMMMMMMMMM

#

Lol

hushed agate
#

I know the bare basics of it

#

Gonna use it on my momentum fotf zealot buildKEKW_ogryn

#

Doom time

patent patrol
#

LOL

#

with the blessing

#

that 60% offsets my below average reload speed so hard

#

lol.

hushed agate
#

The weapon seems very fun. Idk if itll end up being my favorite though. I love lawbringer

patent patrol
#

Oh yeah also, I gotta mention this. I LOVE the braced autoguns so when I saw that this thing's q ability is the knockback thing I got dopemine

#

it even has a charged version.

#

Idk why but I love whacking things back, walking over top of them and shooting them in the face.

hushed agate
#

I saw people stunlooping ragers with itKEKW_ogryn

patent patrol
#

it's so damn satisfying.

#

oh my god this thing is awesome

#

I walked up to a bulwark's back and one shot it. No weakpoint

#

just a bodyshot

#

LOL

#

... Imagine if you could still get the armor downgrade thing with chastise and you shot a crusher with it

#

instant death.

patent patrol
#

it's a gamble but you can stagger crushers with it

#

Crushers beware, I literally have the two best weapons of fucking you over

#

LMAO

#

well revolver's probably better

#

cause crit rending

#

but eh

hushed agate
#

Zarona is for nerds

patent patrol
#

ok I tested it on damnation. It's JUST SHY of a four shot, and I don't have deathspitter yet

#

if I had deathspitter I'm sure I could kill in 3

#

I will mention it's with consistent close range headshots.

#

so it's probably better to just use melee chastise for em

#

but it can stagger the shit out of em still

#

so if there's multiple you can just start staggering a couple.

patent patrol
# hushed agate Zarona is for nerds

So yeah this thing isn't an end all be all but it can stagger the hell out of crushers and likely 3-4 shot with deathspitter double barrel shots with constant headshots

#

there's better answers but

#

it's nice to know it's an option.

hushed agate
#

I havent gotten to use it against bosses i bet with unyielding and the for mentioned blessings itd tear them apart

patent patrol
#

haven't tested damnation

#

I need to do that rq

#

I just know against bulwarks on heresy at least you can one shot at full hp on bodyshot

#

with no deathspitter

#

so base weapon

radiant nacelle
spare talon
#

That video is from tanner

hushed agate
#

Gunner resist seems to work for me

patent patrol
spare talon
#

He also says weakspot damage is good

patent patrol
#

gunner res is basically REQUIRED on most curios.

hushed agate
#

I always triple up on gunner res

spare talon
#

So I'd ignore his videos

radiant nacelle
#

I understand all of that. I know Tanner is mostly a knucklehead. In the video his evidence shows it's largely worthless.

patent patrol
radiant nacelle
#

So I'm trying to get actual valid data that can counteract it.

spare talon
#

Gunner resist is one of the best curio perks and it's not up for debate

hushed agate
#

I cant stand gunners i have to have triple resist on every build

radiant nacelle
#

I always suspected as much. That's not really what I'm trying to say.

spare talon
#

The single number 1 source of all toughness damage

radiant nacelle
#

I'm saying in the video it showcases how it's not valid.

#

Like he shows a gunner with no gunner resist and one without and the damage difference is negligible.

spare talon
radiant nacelle
#

I know

#

Again

#

he shows visually that gunner resistance isn't good

#

can anyone reconcile that with gunner resistance being good?

#

Like, can anyone prove what he's showcasing with actual video evidence is wrong

#

or give me a reaosn to not believe someone who has actual video evidence

hushed agate
#

Unfortunately im not pn pc so i cant get gunners to shoot me in meat grinder but it is working

radiant nacelle
patent patrol
radiant nacelle
#

Alright then.

#

Thank you!

ripe quest
maiden path
#

wtf does brave mean

patent patrol
# radiant nacelle Alright then.

Between you and me, Tanner is the most unreliable source. I'm sure if you want actual data on this stuff someone here can get it for you. I wouldn't know how personally tho. I'm sure @spare talon could possibly help tho. They've gotten data for stuff like that before I think.

#

or others in this chat

spare talon
#

I'm not able to watch the video really cuz I'm at work (retail hell) so I can't see his exact showcase

maiden path
#

i fucking started my dungeon without the fireteam somehow

merry flume
#

i mean if you like chuds that slink from community to community because they get ousted for being a shithead then you'll love him

patent patrol
#

I wouldn't know.

patent patrol
#

I know he has terrible takes but

#

did he have some actual controversy here?

radiant nacelle
#

So it made me think

maiden path
#

erm chat

#

who is tanner

merry flume
#

a nobody

radiant nacelle
#

I know he's Tanner, but he showed it right there in front of me

#

Doesn't really matter who he is, he showed me it didn't help

patent patrol
maiden path
#

do any destiny 2 players know how fireteam finder works

#

I had 2 other people to do a dungeon with

#

but when I started it they werent in it

patent patrol
# merry flume a nobody

I'm now wondering what he did. I'm sure he has a list but what did he do to keep getting ousted?

#

hell, what got him ousted from here?

#

aside from his bad takes.

hushed agate
merry flume
#

ew

hushed agate
#

I doubt many people here play it

maiden path
#

theres like 30 people n this chat that play destiny 2

hushed agate
#

I know i dont not after the vault

drowsy steppe
#

having gunner resist you will eventually run out of toughness

#

when you let yourself get gunned down by gunners

spare talon
drowsy steppe
#

but notice how it took maybe a few milisecond or 1 second longer

drowsy steppe
#

for your toughness to run out

#

with gunner resist

#

also

maiden path
#

I had a group of really experienced guys i think

#

but I went in the dungeon and they just didnt come along

#

idk why

drowsy steppe
#

please dont listen to tanner

spare talon