Im not sure what the changes are people keep mentioned. TO gunners and the like
#zealot-class
cerulean moth
fleet zealot
It’s not about shooters ignoring you (tho it helps) it’s about killing them as qucik as possible
spare talon
cuz it felt like every time i failed a clutch was because of a specific mistake i made
cerulean moth
I don't think ive noticed them
haughty haven
literally noone was complaining about this for like the first two days lol
spare talon
but now its like ok well that just happened
fleet zealot
Recon vet has perfect accuracy, 2 aggro drops in one ability
visual stream
I think clutching already felt penalizing enough recently because it felt like director got a shadow buff before this patch
merry flume
did horde density as a whole get denser? or is it just my team not being able to kill anything
haughty haven
i deffo noticed the rager buff but my evis zeal isn't the greatest at rager packs
fleet zealot
literally noone was complaining about this for like the first two days lol
I was complaining about people not focusing on trash shooters/ranged elites and specs for the first day
haughty haven
or i'm not either way
median steeple
visual stream
I guess now is as good a time as ever to get one of the weapons with ghost and make a meme build around that xd
cerulean moth
clutching in this game feels so much harder at times compared to V2. No ranged enemies less specials and temp hp do be making it better
still har dhto
median steeple
farming my friends for the revive penance
spare talon
I think clutching already felt penalizing enough recently because it felt like d...
a secret director buff plus tons of zealot nerfs plus tons of enemy buffs
yeah no wonder the game went from really fun to not fun
fleet zealot
I still find it fun, if more deranged
fleet zealot
Im basically stealthing all over killing every trash shooter, ranged specialist and elite
haughty haven
ok the gun thing for the funny runny yell isn't ever intended lol
fleet zealot
If they are dead, they can’t use their buffed stats
fleet zealot
Shirmply put. THey should make marty give rending stacks
No thanks
spare talon
clutching in this game feels so much harder at times compared to V2. No ranged e...
meanwhile i quite literally start having a hard time staying alive at the third difficulty
median steeple
HADROn
spare talon
but i suck at vt2 for no reason
cerulean moth
Its happening
median steeple
you fucking ASS
visual stream
a secret director buff plus tons of zealot nerfs plus tons of enemy buffs
yeah n...
Ranged chastise nerf pretty needed but also reduced build diversity (and dunked on bolter, which did not need to be dunked on, and encouraged revo even more, which did not need to be encouraged more)
cerulean moth
Im making it happen
median steeple
STOP GIVING ME HAYMAKER
fleet zealot
I dont want any dev to look at martyrdom
haughty haven
you can still proc a funny runny yell about every ten or 15 seconds on the funny runny zealot
fleet zealot
They might realize how strong the numbers get
haughty haven
with any weapon with a decent crit blessing
cerulean moth
meanwhile i quite literally start having a hard time staying alive at the third ...
it be like that sometimes
merry flume
STOP GIVING ME HAYMAKER
haymaker might actually be worth because there's always 100+ shamblers on screen now
spare talon
Ranged chastise nerf pretty needed but also reduced build diversity (and dunked ...
chastise nerf i dont really care about as it wasnt really something that i took accounted for in my builds
cerulean moth
I dont want any dev to look at martyrdom
any build/weapon becomes strong with 6 marty stacks i swear
placid fiber
@north sedge I have to say: these swords are a lot easier for me to use, despite the extra danger you have when not using a cast to get close/damage from afar. I am feeling 3 or 4 times more confident with them than I did the staff.
fleet zealot
any build/weapon becomes strong with 6 marty stacks i swear
That’s how i used chain axe before it got buffed
median steeple
do stalkers count for unseen assassin since they have guns
surreal shore
so chainaxe got low finnese then
merry flume
any build/weapon becomes strong with 6 marty stacks i swear
aclys axe with stealth is actually busted with marty
median steeple
I hate them since they like to not count for some things
fleet zealot
Before it got attention because mk12 released so by association mk4 got some attention from the player base
surreal shore
im guessing the shock mauls are better then for crit build
fleet zealot
so chainaxe got low finnese then
Yes
spare talon
its mainly the fact that the main weapons i liked used crit cdr and they feel way worse now, my overall toughness generation being reduced with gunners tearing through it faster is salt in the wound
cerulean moth
That’s how i used chain axe before it got buffed
used to just go marty pre skill tree patch just to feel something 🚬
fleet zealot
It is very much a stat check, buff that damage and power weapon
spare talon
like my builds were "yeah i dont do that much damage but good fucking luck taking me down bitch"
and now my builds are "yeah i dont do that much damage"
fleet zealot
Mk4 especially scales great with attack speed
visual stream
My entire crit claw meme build is worthless now 
surreal shore
i got a mk12
cerulean moth
aclys axe with stealth is actually busted with marty
Evis marty goes hard
fleet zealot
Spamming this forever
median steeple
Evis marty goes hard
true!
north sedge
<@714244267786240030> I have to say: these swords are a lot easier for me to use...
the knives you mean?
fleet zealot
i got a mk12
Mk12 is the same
haughty haven
really shouldn't have been able to spam chastise every 3 seconds lol
north sedge
im better with the staff
cerulean moth
They should buff chastise by making it give full toughness again
fleet zealot
Mk12 just doesn’t use attack speed as well but it’s still a stat check weapon
visual stream
I'm actually kind of curious as to why they focused on crit cdr and chastise before they batted an eye at the weapons that are objectively overtuned even more
Maybe weapon changes coming with item update
cerulean moth
because zealot mains are opressed 
haughty haven
chastice and crit cdr were absolutely busted lol
you high af if you don't think so lol
fleet zealot
Crit cdr needed to go lmao
cerulean moth
we must break the glass ceiling
fleet zealot
It ain’t a conspiracy
visual stream
chastice and crit cdr were absolutely busted lol
I didn't say they weren't overtuned
haughty haven
they're fine now
visual stream
I said other things were miles worse xd
fleet zealot
Same with fotf it was going to get nerfed or broken into sub nodes
spare talon
really shouldn't have been able to spam chastise every 3 seconds lol
i mean yeah
but the main thing is that it was typically only in hordes
which realistically are the least threatening thing, and having 10 chastises doesnt really change that vs just 1
haughty haven
i suck at zealot and i get by on auric with a evis 15 using a crit and chastise build
it's fine
fleet zealot
The punishment nerf was needed but i didn’t expect it to happen cause it’s so niche on what weapons use it
spare talon
but now with how it works i think its very useless
like genuinely, punishment is just a travel node
tidal berry
evis is still a zero braincell weapon, you just might not get away with dashing into 50 gunners now
cerulean moth
Honestly the biggest change to the zealot skill tree is making sainted gunslinger swap places with the talent above it
haughty haven
you get a chastise like every 5 to ten secons using a shred evis
idk about other weapons or builds
fleet zealot
I mean punishment still has unstoppable which is good if you don’t grab twbs
tidal berry
Tbh I don't even disagree with you on certain weapons needing attention before talents but I'm not one for whataboutisms
Maybe weapons will get rebalanced with the crafting update who knows
spare talon
I mean punishment still has unstoppable which is good if you don’t grab twbs
but its only after at least 5 swings in a group
and will fall off after 5 seconds of not swinging at a group
visual stream
Maybe weapons will get rebalanced with the crafting update who knows
Exactly what I said
spare talon
i dont see any realistic situations where that grants a real benefit
visual stream
If you get 5 swings in a row off in a group without getting interrupted, you might not need the uninterruptible status but it's neat anyway
fleet zealot
i dont see any realistic situations where that grants a real benefit
If the horde gets reinforced via bruisers or ragers
maiden path
yea babby
tidal berry
Exactly what I said
either way there aren't that many weapons that are overperforming to begin with, the two obvious ones being zarona/plas with their pen
spare talon
If the horde gets reinforced via bruisers or ragers
the weapons that would benefit from the impact would be unlikely to consistently reproc that with the hitmass of the elites in the mix
and some of the ones that would benfit are the crusher
and its literally the crusher
placid fiber
Aw, I died to the sea serpent lol
Then again... I did only have 5hp when I went in lol
maiden path
Aw, I died to the sea serpent lol
whut game...
placid fiber
whut game...
Hades 2
spare talon
anyway
make invocation of death proc to up to at least 3 targets
placid fiber
I am not great at this top down style of game where you dodge around and hack and slash lol
visual stream
either way there aren't that many weapons that are overperforming to begin with...
I don't think the game gets less fun when someone runs into a group of 50 nobodies and chastises five times, but I do think the game gets substantially less fun when the plas/revo player snipes every interesting enemy the millisecond they show up
visual stream
All the nerfs had it coming but the priority is what I was curious about
fleet zealot
Chaxe mk4 was overperforming
placid fiber
i forgot that game came out
It's in early access, iirc. It is a 10/10 game because u can pet da frog! :3
fleet zealot
Oneshot everything up to crushers when ramped +martyrdom
Heavies and push attacks staggering multiple maulers per swing
But
I disnt think it would be taken from me so soon
After i was stuck in the dark times of shit chaxe
left iron
After i was stuck in the dark times of shit chaxe
Have some PTSD from chaxe chastising but more recent
visual stream
After i was stuck in the dark times of shit chaxe
Finally someone who can relate to the very specific experience of a weapon that was previously (semi) shit go to S+ tier and then almost immediately become just good
spare talon
Have some PTSD from chaxe chastising ~~but more recent~~
this is what happened to you
fleet zealot
Remember clubthrough on mk4 lights that would punish you with 80% less damage if you dared to get too much power/cleave
median steeple
Have some PTSD from chaxe chastising ~~but more recent~~
bro got thrown through three dimensions before coming back
left iron
What playing on the Asian servers does to a person 
visual stream
Have some PTSD from chaxe chastising ~~but more recent~~
GOD EMPEROR I'M HAVING A FUCKING SEIZURE
vestal pine
Evis marty goes hard
ok but consider the following:
rashad
left iron
get that AXE shit out of my face
Hey now, i had to choose playing with thammer on a server i have 200 ping the last time Red let me pick the mission or being useful
cerulean moth
I use my child here on marty build its good fun
left iron
I like being useful
vestal pine
get that AXE shit out of my face
here's another proposal: achylis
cerulean moth
push attack light, light light heavy light
vestal pine
that was fun
cerulean moth
tatoo that on my body 4evert
tawdry vigil
does the surgical blessing on revolver apply to the fan fire one aswell?
spare talon
ok i remembered why i planned to take a break from darktide for a bit
spare talon
does the surgical blessing on revolver apply to the fan fire one aswell?
yes, but it is kind of a waste
cerulean moth
(totally)
tawdry vigil
yes, but it is kind of a waste
what would you recommend in its place?
spare talon
what would you recommend in its place?
prolly crucian
but honestly
overall your probably better off with the other revolver on zealot
royal vortex
When game was peak only got worse from here
why not 111111?
cerulean moth
Because that build is CRACKED
and i didn't ahve the will power to use 11111 bro
I wasn't worthy
tawdry vigil
but honestly
overall your probably better off with the other revolver on zealot
but cowboy
cerulean moth
Honestly skill tree four on the old system was the worst you had 3 great perks you had to chose from
spare talon
but cowboy
dont get me wrong, its cool has hell
but thats the only thing it has going for it by comparison
tidal berry
I don't think the game gets less fun when someone runs into a group of 50 nobodi...
I've had a year of whataboutisms involving zarona/plas now, I'm so tired of it I don't even know how to respond to it in a way that would move the discussion forward. Why are they not nuked from orbit yet I don't fkin know
cerulean moth
(1 wasn't good enough but still)
median steeple
ok i remembered why i planned to take a break from darktide for a bit
the crashing has gotten worse
it's depressing
hot jolt
cerulean moth
I only crash if i buy to many weapons at once
spare talon
I only crash if i buy to many weapons at once
ive yet to complete a single mission without a crash or error code
left iron
The game crashes me every time i buy 10 weapons in quick succession
left iron
Gone are the days i could buy 200 thammers and be happy
spare talon
sometimes the crash is what causes the mission to not succeed to begin with
left iron
And then immediately get depressed again
cerulean moth
yeah the crashing is so strange
tawdry vigil
is this good shotgun?
cerulean moth
every copy of darktider is personalised
put flak and maniac on it and its pretty good. What everyone else suggest?
Many people prefer double barrel
tho
spare talon
full bore is quite hard to proc on the double barrel shotgun
so id recommend swapping that for double barrel, the blessing
cerulean moth
tawdry vigil
so id recommend swapping that for double barrel, the blessing
damn dont have that one yet
ill keep my eye it
but since thatll take up one modification what should my other be?
spare talon
damn dont have that one yet
70% reload speed when killing something with both barrels
id drop the crit chance for flak
cerulean moth
ive found some sucsess shooting a single shot procing full bore then double barreling
tawdry vigil
im thinking flak armored in place of the crit chance
cerulean moth
still fininky
tawdry vigil
since it probs doesnt have enough pen for carapace armor anyways right?
cerulean moth
ye just do flak
tawdry vigil
baller thank you guys
maiden path
@spare talon to be SUre
if i do witch queen campaign
can I pick an exotic when I beat it?
i need the lorely splednor helm
spare talon
if you do it on legendary difficulty
maiden path
2 difficult..
spare talon
its not that difficult
maiden path
spare talon
legendary difficulty is quite fun tho
you actually feel the weight of your builds and stuff
maiden path
my build sucks without lorely!!
spare talon
instead of everything just fucking crumbling
maiden path
i need dat shit for its restoration!!
blissful tendon
what we needing loreley for
placid fiber
Wow, being able to aim my cast and plant it near enemies to zap them for 50 damage and then 25 damage every 0.25 seconds is REALLY handy with the staff... and with Lunar Ray >.>
blissful tendon
im pretty sure they nerfed it enough to where its restoration isnt that much better than what the basic solar titan build can offer
maiden path
restoration is all sunwell has........
median steeple
they just nerfed resto in general
spare talon
im pretty sure they nerfed it enough to where its restoration isnt that much bet...
this video is long after that nerf
median steeple
you can't get to x2 without well or something
maiden path
i cant find a solar titan build that doesnt rely on a weird gimmick with a exotic that I actually wanna go and spend the time getting
i want lorely
spare talon
then you can do the legendary campaign
blissful tendon
pyrogales
spare talon
its literally right there
maiden path
6 hours
spare talon
i dont think he has ligghtfall
maiden path
and my build wont cut it
spare talon
and my build wont cut it
have you even tried
maiden path
have you even tried
NOPE
good point
maybe i will
first
vanguard
if i cant do good in vanguard i wont b able to beat legendary camapign
blissful tendon
i am almost entirely certain you can run the basic bitch syntho hammer setup and still do just fine even after the 4+ nerfs it got
spare talon
like ive seen people go in with utter dogshit builds and they just play smart and safe enough and make it through
and by utter dogshit i mean they had no build
they were using fucking blues
and also werent that amazing mechanically at the game
spare talon
legendary campaign does not
maiden path
the nightfall this week sucks cause every other enemy is a champion
half the strike is spent swapping my weapons
blissful tendon
stupid ass gimmick
lmao
visual stream
I've had a year of whataboutisms involving zarona/plas now, I'm so tired of it I...
I don't think I made any whataboutisms chief, I was the one who started the conversation about the why of the nerfs in the first place so I don't see how you could call it that 
maiden path
i look in my inventory then see some hunter with his fucking 3m damage oppa stoppa blew its head off
blissful tendon
its literally the only thing encouraging any sort of loadout diversity outside of player boredom
how about bringing all flavors of anti-champ next time then
maiden path
i can only bring 2
blissful tendon
so you dont have to dig into your backpack every time you see a different champion
maiden path
i have to rely on the book
blissful tendon
oh youre gonna have to make me load up d2 on a friday evening
maiden path
i dont have these weapons on demand
blissful tendon
gimme a sec
blissful tendon
spare talon
ah a fellow asylum escapee
blissful tendon
example
congrats
now the third weapon you have that doesnt have an anti champ thing
has an anti champ thing
is he gone
did he go off to do legend campaign
@maiden path ^
placid fiber
Welp... I am 100% fucked lol I get to try this boss for the 1st time with only like... 14hp... xD
blissful tendon
@maiden path read up
drifting wolf
wild reckoner spotted
placid fiber
Yep, I got destroyed xD
spare talon
wild reckoner spotted
placid fiber
And Chronos is taunting my ass for being so horrible xD
maiden path
ewrm ill just throw my hammer at anything i see
drifting wolf
if i miss this hammer throw i'll kill myself
blissful tendon
example 2
shoot once to slow and overload, shoot 2-3 times to freeze then shatter and unstop
drifting wolf
chill clip reference
maiden path
if i miss this hammer throw i'll kill myself
hammer flys off cliff
ripe quest
if i miss this hammer throw i'll kill myself
blissful tendon
oh no
drifting wolf
blissful tendon
not sol invictus giving it back in 20 seconds of gameplay
i believe one-two finisher on class item gives like 70?% back with just 3 charges
maiden path
not sol invictus giving it back in 20 seconds of gameplay
i cant get it without my hammer!!!!!!!!
me watching my teammates get instant abilty regen while I stand in a sunspot for 30 minutes
drifting wolf
it's not too much of an issue when you have like a fusion grenade equipped, but you're out of luck if you run heal nade
healing the enemies is not very good i think
blissful tendon
oh no
maiden path
me thinks they deserve love too
blissful tendon
you dont have a single weapon with incandescent
spare talon
what the fuck
you can do this
ripe quest
what the fuck
you can do this
blissful tendon
on the Eternity node in director
drifting wolf
bxr is the legally distinct halo 2 battle rifle
spare talon
oh no
stacks of roaring flames allow your fists to count as ability kills and also apply scorch for sol invictus
drifting wolf
pulses are pretty good now after their buffs
spare talon
<:smil:818918334551556097>
i shoulda used that
considering any time i wasnt parrying a boss
i was full ooga mode
blissful tendon
its also the source of two swords that make people look like theyre flying around and such
drifting wolf
incandescent makes people explode into fire, and that fire spreads scorch to nearby enemies that didn't die from the explosion
blissful tendon
the funny perk
drifting wolf
mini sunshot
blissful tendon
oh yeah sunshot also scorches on explosions i think
though its hard to scorch when the explosions themselves instakill most enemies in the average low level activity
drifting wolf
idk if it does more or less than enhanced incan, it just likes to blow shit up better
blissful tendon
way less than even base incan
10 base, 15 with ember of ashes i think
just enough to count as scorched for any subclass synergies
placid fiber
Whoops I accidentally attacked Chronos after the 1st boss instead of talking to him xD
patent patrol
and perks/blessings?
this one.
spare talon
flak/dealers choice of damage
hammerblow/trauma and skullcrusher
hammerblow is the ideal, but the difference between that and trauma isnt enough to actually care
patent patrol
flak/dealers choice of damage
hammerblow/trauma and skullcrusher
I see, I see...
So how's this one lookin?
obviously needs 2 changes but.
fervent geode
patent patrol
it looks like youre set
In your opinion, would you run maniac, carapace or unyielding? Like obviously those 3 are like the big three. Speaking of which, how does it do on bosses compared to the thunder hammers? similarly?
spare talon
youd need at 2 bad perks, and the only bad blessing it can roll with for it to be bricked
north sedge
Not like hammer at all
north sedge
Thunderstrike to skullcrusher, crit to uh, whatever
spare talon
your damage wont come close to thammers
north sedge
Yea not like hammer at all on bosses
spare talon
but thats okay
patent patrol
but thats okay
Wait then why do people say it does well on bosses?
or, bigger enemies
lol
spare talon
crusher still does pretty good damage against everything
and it actually has good finesse too
so it does especially well against the head
patent patrol
and it actually has good finesse too
... Wonder if I could run it on my crit build over my dclaw
would that work?
spare talon
you could, but crit now moreso than ever benefits the most from fast attack speed
and while the crusher is quite fast for a two handed weapon, its still a two handed weapon
patent patrol
and while the crusher is quite fast for a two handed weapon, its still a two han...
fair. anyway what would you suggest for the second perk? maniac? the standard? probably?
spare talon
i personally use momentum on it
north sedge
There's a comprehensive crusher guide in the pins
maiden path
i need tommys matchbook catlayst for its scorch
patent patrol
i personally use momentum on it
I said perk.
patent patrol
lol
maiden path
da slow dance emote
spare talon
I said perk.
message was sent at the exact same time
i dont think theres a definitive one thats better
i personally have carapace locked on mine and ive had no issues with it
patent patrol
I'll go with Maniac I think. So does this thing still absolutely destroy crushers?
lol.
spare talon
maniac only really helps with specialists and ragers
and its literally the crusher
youd be hard pressed to find a moment where youve not sent any of them on their ass
honestly the reason why it doesnt matter is cuz the crusher just kinda knocks everything over
maiden path
how and why do these fuckers glow
patent patrol
honestly the reason why it doesnt matter is cuz the crusher just kinda knocks ev...
even bosses?
lol
north sedge
No
placid fiber
Welp... I might have 3 heals of 15 hp, full hp, and my prefered weapon(so far)... but I think I'm gonna get my ass kicked again, by the 2nd boss, lol... I know it has 2 phases, at least
north sedge
Not a boss weapon at all
spare talon
like with other weapons you kill them faster so theyre not a threat for as long
but with the crusher youre just so safe using it that it doesnt really matter
spare talon
even bosses?
you cant stagger bosses with it no
but youre pretty safe due to how much range it actually has
placid fiber
Not a boss weapon at all
Maybe not, but, I at least have +45% damage and +100% damage to close enemies... and an aimable zappy cast circle x.x
north sedge
Maybe not, but, I at least have +45% damage and +100% damage to close enemies......
Not you
spare talon
so as long as you have the basic combat down with bosses in general
you should have no issues with crusher against them
patent patrol
you should have no issues with crusher against them
Do I need to change my build to work with it? I've just been using a standard martyr build
tiny walrus
get ready for some insane zealot shit being posted in here again
spare talon
get ready for some insane zealot shit being posted in here again
i hope youre reading to be greeted with all the nerfs they just got hit by
and the enemy buffs too
patent patrol
crusher kinda just
works
Ok then. How's the horde clear? Or crowd control
or whatever
tiny walrus
i hope youre reading to be greeted with all the nerfs they just got hit by
and t...
what did they do
im the psycho knife zealot
who played on 130 fov
spare talon
im the psycho knife zealot
crit cdr now is per swing not per hit
chastise no longer has ranged rending
shooters now fire more often and with more shots
gunners have a higher firerate
reapers can move while shooting
dreg ragers now attack much faster
north sedge
Ok then. How's the horde clear? Or crowd control
Incredible horde control, read the guide in the pins
spare talon
Ok then. How's the horde clear? Or crowd control
braindead easy
tiny walrus
crit cdr now is per swing not per hit
chastise no longer has ranged rending
shoo...
doesnt affect me
placid fiber
Wow, I actually won! o_o'
tiny walrus
im this guy
spare talon
doesnt affect me
oh this is you
spare talon
im this guy
oh yeah momentum got nerfed a few patches ago
placid fiber
@north sedge Maybe not a boss weapon, but, eat this! x.x
spare talon
down to 15 stacks max and 6 second duration instead of 20 stacks 8 seconds
tiny walrus
ill find a way to make it work
visual stream
man looks behind him without turning
tiny walrus
👁️ 
👄 👁️
spare talon
median steeple
left iron
FOOOUULL DRAAGOOON
placid fiber
Hm... from +45% to +60% damage that can freeze enemies... or from +100% to +150% close ranged damage... Gee I wonder what I'm gonna choose with the freaking swords build xD
drowsy steppe
these damn elven liberals you feel me 😤
spare talon
literally read what the quest asks you to do
maiden path
WHAT ARE POINTS
spare talon
IT LITERALLY SAYS
ripe quest
im the psycho knife zealot
spare talon
YOUR CYNACISISM DOESNT AWNSER MY QUESTION
yes it does 
left iron
Your inability to comprehend basic instructions is truly astonishing
maiden path
i will not read the fine print
tiny walrus
https://tenor.com/view/thanos-i-dont-even-know-who-you-are-marvel-gif-15769006
i used to type in here too much
spare talon
i will not read the fine print
he says as he refuses to read the largest sized text known to man
spare talon
i used to type in here too much
yeah but your name and pfp are completely different
maiden path
you all live life precariously and in jest, yet I live my live forging a path of my own despite my failings
spare talon
i dont remember what it was before
maiden path
and I am attacked for it
tiny walrus
my name is the same
ripe quest
i used to type in here too much
The only thing that I remember you for is that you pinged Contrazoid
maiden path
ripe quest
you all live life precariously and in jest, yet I live my live forging a path of...
Forging a path of 200 mb harddrives and laptops that can't run games past 2016 headass
tiny walrus
this?
maiden path
Forging a path of 200 mb harddrives and laptops that can't run games past 2016 h...
my point has been proven
drifting wolf
wtf does this mean
play vanguard, gambit, crucible and seasonal game modes to get points
maiden path
apoooough pvp sucks
drifting wolf
you don't have to do it, it's just one of the four options
placid fiber
Oh Fuck... I forgot about this enraged boi... x.x
maiden path
you don't have to do it, it's just one of the four options
FOUR OPTIONS
WHAT?
I ONLY HAVE TO DO ONE?
drifting wolf
you can do vanguard or seasonal activities and it will progress regardless
spare talon
beb
you acknowledged that there was a thing that said what the points were
then you didnt even read it
maiden path
you have yet to read my response to your attacks
i do not have time in this world to read the fine print
laugh
and grow fat
drowsy steppe
beb is mort confirmed
maiden path
very hedonistic
placid fiber
Oh Fuck... I forgot about this enraged boi... x.x
Yes! I won! ... with like... 2hp left xD
hard nexus
can i PLEASE
GET A TEAM THAT DOESNT FALL APART IN 5 SECONDS
GIAHEBTOANS
i hate leveling up
placid fiber
GET A TEAM THAT DOESNT FALL APART IN 5 SECONDS
What part of the world are you in?
left iron
Sentenced to pugs for the rest of the time you play this game
hard nexus
i’m just trying to level up :(
placid fiber
I saved my run and am exiting hades 2
drowsy steppe
not damnation?
left iron
I can join you guys, but i'd rather play damnation if possible
hard nexus
not damnation?
can’t play it yet, only level 15 on ogryn
placid fiber
btw I am pretty rusty, so I might be a bit hit or miss in some instances lol
spare talon
i would join to help
but the game will not let me play without constant crashes
so i would likely be more of a detriment
placid fiber
I am used to damnation, though, so that probably will help >.>'
hard nexus
i would join to help
but the game will not let me play without constant crashes
real
that’s the issue i’ve been having
not often but sometimes
spare talon
and then crashing
all of the above
freezing
crashing
dc-ing
all of it
hard nexus
I am used to damnation, though, so that probably will help >.>'
whenever ur ready just use my code, it’s in my user
spare talon
not a game goes by without at least one
coarse birch
the freezing can be fixed by either turning off your mods or going into the files, not sure about the others
hard nexus
Is the 5114379016 your steam or fatshark code?
fatshakr
spare talon
the freezing can be fixed by either turning off your mods or going into the file...
i can tell you for a fact that disabling mods did not fix any one of these
it happened just as much with mods off
spare talon
its quite literally just inherently part of the update
coarse birch
i havent had too many issues after i turned off the dump state
so i sadly cant help much
royal vortex
between this and turning off inventory 2d my crashes have been fixed
ive experienced one momentary freeze since doing it
maiden path
soone u will be mine
ripe quest
I gotta get around to remaking all of my UI mods since they broke broke w/ the update.
placid fiber
Oh boy... this is gonna be my 1st mission back in a while xD
left iron
placid fiber
At least it is only heresy
maiden path
everytrime I go to crucible I am mocked by this pillar involving my lack of wealth
spare talon
we ball
after that mission i could try doing a silly that speeds up leveling quite a bit
drifting wolf
I gotta get around to remaking all of my UI mods since they *broke* broke w/ the...
i tried playing again and noticed significantly worse performance than usual regardless of what graphics options i chose
drifting wolf
yeah, crashed once though but i was more concerned about the fps problems
spare talon
i set my settings to be able to run at 80-90 in most situations, with it dipping below typically in hectic auric engagemnts
but normal heresy and damnation consistently drop to 50 even in only mild fights
and my settings are like this
drifting wolf
i use a 3060ti and previously could get a solid enough framerate outside of large swarms in heresy/damnation, now it feels like it's constantly staying at 60-50fps regardless of what's going on
ivory marlin
Bazinga
sullen eagle
what does the new double barrel work well with
drowsy steppe
its main weakness is ofc only having 2 shots per mag, which can be mitigated if you have both barrels, so you can reload faster
any zealot melee can be paired easily with it
sullen eagle
which DB
spare talon
those are the same
spare talon
thirdd
sullen eagle
so 359?
drowsy steppe
ye
sullen eagle
fucked?
drowsy steppe
tf
sullen eagle
good or bad
drowsy steppe
I guess you can save it by switching barrage for deathspitter
spare talon
absolutely butchered imho
drowsy steppe
and ranged damage for flak
royal vortex
range is not a good dumpstat unfortunately
spare talon
yeah which is why i said the one with mobility at 60 and everything else at 70
despite it being 354 its got a good distribution
median steeple
i love the double barrel
spare talon
considering the size of the pick
that makes sense lmao
royal vortex
okay but now think of this with wrath
median steeple
it's like one of the child leashes
spare talon
fuck
drowsy steppe
stagger 1?
spare talon
it's like one of the child leashes
"Death will be sweet, but not... for you...!!"
ripe quest
okay but now think of this with wrath
I wanna throw one
north sedge
https://streamable.com/cc6c45
royal vortex
that 1 is the "pulled" debuff from the billhook special
ripe quest
stagger 1?
wait Mal why are you grey again
spare talon
https://tenor.com/view/leespoons-donald-duck-kindly-leave-the-stage-gif-14609854
ill never get over the fact that stages just have "nah youre done, gimmie your phone" sticks
drowsy steppe
I left for a day
haughty haven
hadron is literally a bitch
red forge
what's the dump stat on the shock maul? mobillity or crowd control?
haughty haven
do you like having mobility?
drowsy steppe
mob
spare talon
what's the dump stat on the shock maul? mobillity or crowd control?
mobility
crowd control affects cleave, but its fine if its a little low
all the other stats need to be high tho
haughty haven
i feel like mobility is purely personal
north sedge
Mobility is always the dump stat
polar nexus
Mobility is always the dump stat
No!
spare talon
mobility beyond 51% only effects dodge distance and speed
and not by enough to care
haughty haven
depends on who you are
drowsy steppe
it affects dodgie distance, dodge amount, and sprint speed
north sedge
It doesn't!
haughty haven
i personally enjoy having mobility on most of my weapons cuz this game is already slow as ass
north sedge
I remember exhil did a video of knife sprint speed between low mobi and high and the difference was barely perceptible
spare talon
like a short dodge and long dodge does the exact same thing
and the only weapon that its significant enough to actually matter is knife
which you ALSO dont want mobility cuz the dodges start to be so far that you move yourself out of your own swing range
drowsy steppe
ok so there is still sprint speed difference
haughty haven
na bro i've tested on bunches of weapons
drowsy steppe
but why on the knife
haughty haven
it's a multiplyer like anything else
polar nexus
So I tried both maul yesterday. I feel like agni is easier to use... I don't know the push attack combo reminded me of other weapons. Indignatus on the other hand... I had a hard time cancelling h1
haughty haven
varies from weap to weap
drowsy steppe
like objectively the fastest sprint weapon
left iron
@placid fiber
royal vortex
So I tried both maul yesterday. I feel like agni is easier to use... I don't kno...
if u want an easy h1 cancel just chastise 🙂
(i hate this bug)
polar nexus
The only weapon where I do not like low mobility is the psword. It's above 70 or gtfo.
polar nexus
if u want an easy h1 cancel just chastise 🙂
vestal pine
game feels like "if you wanna play on highest difficulty use the unfun but effectivr options"
thats something
drowsy steppe
saul isnt as effective as hsword but its not a bad pick
I should try the taxes again
royal vortex
Which one do you prefer?
i like the agni more
polar nexus
It works reaaaaally well with the bolt pistol
royal vortex
the achlys heavy chaining for the indignatus is w/e
royal vortex
It works reaaaaally well with the bolt pistol
sounds about right
the struggle i had with the boltpistol on zealot is raw weakspot hits on gunners/flamers etc are comically close but not quite there to hitting 1 shots
vestal pine
so how do you counter ogryn getting shot by 2 shooters and instantly losing toughness in a second
not like in coherency fixes that
spare talon
the struggle i had with the boltpistol on zealot is raw weakspot hits on gunners...
you were hitting enemies with the boltpistol??
polar nexus
you were hitting enemies with the boltpistol??
With that build I was sniping kms away
placid fiber
Welp... I got this
royal vortex
so how do you counter ogryn getting shot by 2 shooters and instantly losing toug...
same thing you did before but you have to be more deliberate. if you want to charge ranged enemies you suppress them or have stuff in melee to block shots and act as toughness batteries
placid fiber
<@280294444123553792>
As you can tell I really focus on specials lol
drowsy steppe
lul
vestal pine
same thing you did before but you have to be more deliberate. if you want to cha...
deliberate as in just dont come out at all got it
drowsy steppe
eh dont diss shroudfield
spare talon
after that mission i could try doing a silly that speeds up leveling quite a bit
@hard nexus
royal vortex
if you're running directly into gunfire with no cover as ogryn... yeah
hard nexus
<@265332960792805378>
oh what it’s it
royal vortex
i mean fnp was nerfed last patch, this isn't a particularly new problem lol
polar nexus
the struggle i had with the boltpistol on zealot is raw weakspot hits on gunners...
Surgical + puncture helps
vestal pine
if you're running directly into gunfire with no cover as ogryn... yeah
shooters running at me is more problematic
spare talon
oh what it’s it
auric maelstrom knife zealot sprinting through the entire thing and finishing the mission in less than 15 minutes
royal vortex
at the point i am using surgical boltpistol i just won't use the boltpistol on zealot
it has the same stack time as revolver
it is cringe
vestal pine
doesnt help much with 5 gunner laying down fire
polar nexus
I feel like boltgun is better on the zealot
spare talon
i think the easiest one right now is a mercantile maelstrom cuz its just a straight shot
then i can pick everyone up at the end event and we just have pure chaos for the event
drowsy steppe
boltgun is better*
royal vortex
doesnt help much with 5 gunner laying down fire
i mean... that's like why you have a gun. inspiring barrage is a fantastic blessing on rippers and decent on stubbers, kickback is just big aoe "stop shooting"
rumbler explosion will achieve the same thing
vestal pine
i mean... that's like why you have a gun. inspiring barrage is a fantastic bless...
yeah sorry the ones outside of cone of fire didnt got suprssed and blow your toughness in 2 shots
royal vortex
is it harder? for sure. not unmanageable
hard nexus
crash
spare talon
i think the easiest one right now is a mercantile maelstrom cuz its just a strai...
there arent any sycorax ones available from the last 24 hours which is CRINGE cuz that one is pretty worry free and you dont even have to kill anything at the end
polar nexus
boltgun is better*
Yeah. Boltgun on zelaot doesn't care about ads and you can still snipe if you need.
hard nexus
auric maelstrom knife zealot sprinting through the entire thing and finishing th...
yeah if you’d be down i’d appreciate that
spare talon
yeah if you’d be down i’d appreciate that
its like a few levels per run lmao
polar nexus
Bolt pistol has no magdump so...
royal vortex
yeah sorry the ones outside of cone of fire didnt got suprssed and blow your tou...
you use enemy hitboxes (particularly ogryns) and terrain to mitigate the shots even capable of hitting you, you have guns to supress/regen toughness, and you keep stuff in melee to keep toughness regen up
it's awkward depending on the area of a map you're in but it's not an unconquerable problem in the slightest
hard nexus
its like a few levels per run lmao
that would be pawesome
vestal pine
not happening when a single shot dumps half my toughness, i cant physically keep up with either shooting at them nor melee regening
best bet is just have a dome psyker
solves all your problems
polar nexus
But man the db shotgun. Without throwing knives or a way to get to the shooter before they shred you...
vestal pine
the only advice i can offer you is to just get better then
getting better doesnt make the shooter damage less, sorry
coarse birch
it makes you not get shot
vestal pine
ye its fine
haughty haven
The only weapon where I do not like low mobility is the psword. It's above 70 or...
my revolver is all 80s
drowsy steppe
yea throwing knives is a good supplement for range on zealot with db equipped
vestal pine
i like standing in the corner for 10 minuites not progressing cause the nemey is still spewing out
drowsy steppe
you dont stand in a corner for 10 minutes
haughty haven
drowsy steppe
they
polar nexus
mobility is 32 lol
For the longest time my main bolter was a 05 mobility
Felt about right
vestal pine
i did on the new map and we couldnt even get to the objective
spare talon
@hard nexus id swap the left talents on your tree for the right ones out of the ones in the screencap
drowsy steppe
they'll keep spawning waves of enemies that way
vestal pine
ran out of ammo trying to get to the obj
spare talon
way more dr, rending, and bleed makes up for the just low damage you weapons are doing while leveling
polar nexus
yea throwing knives is a good supplement for range on zealot with db equipped
On shout vet that was not the better experience
So I think I'll go infiltrate db
drowsy steppe
oh Ive not tried db on vet yet lmaoo
vestal pine
i frames that groaners kick you up anyway
like its fine but i think its a point beyond annoyance at this point
polar nexus
oh Ive not tried db on vet yet lmaoo
I tried scattershot double barrel. It has good dmg. Maybe I should try with Deadshot too
drowsy steppe
I tried scattershot double barrel. It has good dmg. Maybe I should try with Dead...
ngl
hard nexus
way more dr, rending, and bleed makes up for the just low damage you weapons are...
i will, thanks
vestal pine
imma just smite cause ogryns aint eating good today
anywhere beyond a corner you feel kickback having 1 shot detremental for now
might need to get better who knows
drowsy steppe
deathspitter is recommended by virtue of it being a power blessing
not fully tested things
but I dont think theres any breakpoint difference with or without deathspitter active
DB can 1 shot muties with RMB
without maniac or deathspitter
maulers can be 1 shotted to the body with flak perk, with rmb
polar nexus
It felt like scattershot was well suited to the gun tbh
royal vortex
ok but have u considered full bore/both barrels/unyielding with shock maul to chain bulwark 1 taps
median steeple
fatshark please
spare talon
@royal vortex wrong button lmao
median steeple
reduce the priority on the new mission
royal vortex
i didnt read the name until u joined
median steeple
im tired of doing it now
polar nexus
So I went with it But I do have several variations
drowsy steppe
I just realize db has manstopper and flechette
royal vortex
full bores pretty jank to active
it has the same effective range as the shotgun
(the length of the barrel)
polar nexus
I just realize db has manstopper and flechette
Good luck getting them
ivory marlin
Mal why are you a gray name
spare talon
total brain failure
im waiting for meow to finish mission so i was just clicking on things and looking
saw you were in psyk
looked at what you had on (wrath pick cuz silly)
went to back out
accidentally sent request lmao
ivory marlin
left for a day
Damn
median steeple
https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/iafG01gG958-OF4ZC/d1337Zrl1chM?invite=cr-MSxpajEsMTk0NjM5OTEyLA this is great I love this
royal vortex
spare talon
https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/iafG01gG958-OF4ZC/d1337Zrl...
fuck dogs not having telegraphs and just going gunning for you
drowsy steppe
gibbing that poor dog lmaoo
coarse birch
fuck dogs not having telegraphs and just going gunning for you
its all dogs now
ivory marlin
Guys is darktide good yet?
coarse birch
https://streamable.com/kl2i4m
:(
spare talon
Guys is darktide good yet?
they just made it way worse
(nerfed my favorite stuff)
ember yew
Guys is darktide good yet?
zilot op need more nerfs
ivory marlin
they just made it way worse
(nerfed my favorite stuff)
Damnit
drowsy steppe
https://streamable.com/kl2i4m
does entropic actually apply to range as well
median steeple
just remove flamer at this point
coarse birch
chastise blows
coarse birch
i cannot believe FS would do this
ivory marlin
flamer sucks, crit builds are unusable
Is crit ruined for all classes or just zealot
visual stream
I would enjoy dogs being less predictable if they didn't fake you out multiple times in a row on occasion, and even more often make no noise while running towards you
spare talon
i will never stop unironically advocating for invocation of death to be up to 3 targets
coarse birch
Is crit ruined for all classes or just zealot
its a joke its not ruined for any of them
ivory marlin
Oh ok
coarse birch
unless you cant function without chastise 24/7
spare talon
Is crit ruined for all classes or just zealot
its just the crit cdr got capped to per swing instead of per target
visual stream
Is crit ruined for all classes or just zealot
All of them
drowsy steppe
i will never stop unironically advocating for invocation of death to be up to 3 ...
crit cdr bros crumble
spare talon
all of them
crits actually no longer exist
drowsy steppe
imagine how contra would react
ivory marlin
its just the crit cdr got capped to per swing instead of per target
Idk what those words mean so my build probably isn’t affected much
median steeple
i ated them all
royal vortex
imagine how contra would react
do not invoke the zoid
spare talon
Idk what those words mean so my build probably isn’t affected much
if you used crit cdr (this talent)
your ability uptime has just dramatically been reduced
drowsy steppe
he is safely stored away
spare talon
crit cdr bros crumble
unironically tho
drowsy steppe
down down by the river
ivory marlin
if you used crit cdr (this talent)
your ability uptime has just dramatically bee...
Im talking about my psyker build
My zealot is rank 3
spare talon
crit cdr bros crumble
i know its overpowered but god dammit it was so fun i want it back
coarse birch
contra 🫡
polar nexus
So attack speed fast weapon is the new play
spare talon
ive rarely gotten the new mission in qp
median steeple
I have gotten 5 times now on hishock
polar nexus
I get it all the time
vestal pine
ive rarely gotten the new mission in qp
ive did
median steeple
quickplay is fucking me up man
vestal pine
no pub ever
drowsy steppe
i know its overpowered but god dammit it was so fun i want it back
I have never seriously abused it while it was still in the game
drowsy steppe
you can say Im a paragon of game balance
vestal pine
wonder when they'll nerf relic
back to when it can only push monstrosities to 2 times
placid fiber
Geeze... I had a crach course with the light pickaxe on damnation with the shock gauntlet modifier :/
left iron
@placid fiber
spare talon
I have never seriously abused it while it was still in the game
i used it with dclaw which only really was able to get to broken levels of cdr against poxwalkers only, which are clearly the most dangerous enemies worthy of that amount of uptime
the moment a single flak or elite showed up, it was a genuinely balanced amount
cuz dclaw just fucking cant cleave through flak without sweep, which i didnt have lmao
hard nexus
i used it with dclaw which only really was able to get to broken levels of cdr a...
do u wanna do that maelstrom speedrun?
or just join us?
or some other time
subtle cedar
does thy wrath be swift still prevent all stagger?
spare talon
yes
subtle cedar
sweet
spare talon
aside from stam breaks
subtle cedar
hmmm
drowsy steppe
when you lose toughness it will apply yes
surreal shore
i have one wiht okay stats but only 52 crowd control
ember yew
I've recently dropped twbs from all my builds aside from thunder hammer and chainaxe4(cuz sht is slow), feels ok
drowsy steppe
how impoirtnat is the crowd control
yea its your stagger impact and cleave
between cc and mob, mob is the safest to dump still
ember yew
how impoirtnat is the crowd control
for some weapons it gives attack speed i think
drowsy steppe
oh yea that too
ember yew
need to check the stat for specific weapon
versed sinew
Whats gonna make these better or are they absolute dogshit
polar nexus
for some weapons it gives attack speed i think
Hammer
placid fiber
Uh...
hard nexus
Whats gonna make these better or are they absolute dogshit
get rid of opportunitist, it’s bait
placid fiber
I might have gotten stuck in the loading menu x.x
hard nexus
rip
versed sinew
get rid of opportunitist, it’s bait
is it? sounds good on paper, what replaces it?
subtle cedar
do we prefer the damage or the toughness DR after 5 pulses on relic?
spare talon
is it? sounds good on paper, what replaces it?
the shock maul has incredibly high armor damage
rending does very little for it
hard nexus
yah they know more than i do
polar nexus
Whats gonna make these better or are they absolute dogshit
Just change crit chance to flak
versed sinew
the shock maul has incredibly high armor damage
iit is fun bapping crushers into the dirt
spare talon
like 80% pen makes the heavy attacks deal 90% of its damage to carapace
left iron
Wouldnt be a session of Dorktide without some bug making things harder than they should be
spare talon
like you dont need rending at all
other blessings do much more in terms of increasing damage
placid fiber
loading into the character select x.x
polar nexus
HV + LR works well
spare talon
high voltage is a must
versed sinew
oh lobby crashed, nice 2014 at least so no ctd
subtle cedar
okay relic backstab cdr chainaxe martyr build go
polar nexus
I went HV + SC on zealot
hard nexus
high voltage is a must
u can start it now
spare talon
lightning reflexes is a great utility pick
skullcrusher is just good if you dont care about LR and just want it for swinging at things
versed sinew
for sure, I just wasnt sure which ones
honestly, im going for fun factor more than anything, but I do like a good club with what to crump with
polar nexus
I think I am going to Josho way.
spare talon
for fun factor, def lightning reflexes and high voltage
versed sinew
it definitly feels like it acts the same way as any ogryn club with thunderous on it does
just softens everything up
median steeple
im sorry I just watched a crusher fucked super fast slide over to me and scare the fuck out of me
subtle cedar
ooooh ice skate overheads do be spooky
versed sinew
I did get this recently, no idea if its good either, but it is a ton of fun
if power output is important, i had no idea
versed sinew
my autism just smiles at 4 80%'s tho
jade juniper
the bonkin stick
left iron
My game froze
jade juniper
damage numbers seem low tho? i thought crusher did more damage
versed sinew
supllies supplies
like i said, ive no idea whats good on this thing, i just got it and started hitting shit
ember yew
My game froze <a:pepeW:1182769651839680523>
there's manual fix for this
this helped me, i was tired of those shitty freezes after update
ember yew
Maybe they are trying to get rid of memory leaks
but instead it freezes and crash your game
versed sinew
i hope, my game ctds so much in the inventory
ember yew
because this sht literally easily happen mid game
ember yew
if you wait long enough, the freeze will be undone, but you will be kicked with 2014 server error
surreal shore
on the shock mauls...
ember yew
and forced to reconnect
surreal shore
its really inconsistent
jade juniper
so now my game goes from game ran out of memory to game ran out
vestal pine
surreal shore
Guys
Anyone here had issues with shock maul btw ?
Like I didn't like the parry thingy
I think skull crusher is the main dps
But for second blessing I seen thrust
I seen also extra damage vs electrocuted
south folio
i don't use lightning reflexes because my brain has been rotted to the point where i can only press lmb
i build my saul exactly like the crusher so that i don't have to think about ragers since heavies get to stagger them with full hammerblow stacks up
south folio
at least at face value, thrust seems to be a bit of a tradeoff
and i also use the agni 1a which wouldn't be the best user of thrust
surreal shore
Cuz I was wondering surely the power would be enough to stagger ragers ?
south folio
i think 60% isn't enough
surreal shore
and i also use the agni 1a which wouldn't be the best user of thrust
I see okay
south folio
but i don't think i tested with grievous wounds
south folio
well actually grievous wounds alone should be enough to stagger ragers
so thrust should be enough
i was thinking about crushers and not ragers
surreal shore
Thing I realised about this thing is it got abbysal boss damage btw
south folio
yeah the unyielding damage suffers from being average compared to weapons which get absolutely boosted against unyielding
surreal shore
I see okay
south folio
just something to double check for yourself since it was pretty short testing i did
surreal shore
Like crusher xD
south folio
at least crusher does have higher values against unyielding
surreal shore
I know
south folio
o i misinterpreted
surreal shore
So should this weapon honestly xD
south folio
it's a good nuff tradeoff i suppose
surreal shore
it's a good nuff tradeoff i suppose
This weapon got crazy
Finnese
I think it goes well with the crit melee build for Vet too
ripe quest
My game froze <a:pepeW:1182769651839680523>
vestal pine
welp
south folio
it's p nice
I do run shock maul on my crit zealot build
hard nexus
@median steeple this is a very ucore video
left iron
I cant believe the dumbest bug happened enemies refused to attack me at all and shadowplay just had to die so i couldnt record it
vestal pine
feels like survivalist is again a must now
hm
either that or camp in the corner for 2 millenia until you die
spare talon
https://tenor.com/view/junji-ito-amigara-fault-manga-horror-this-is-my-hole-gif-11065433351823999031
vestal pine
where do i get ammo again
south folio
sisyphus.
just loot it
i just think that teams sometimes push fast and neglect looting to keep up with the rest of the team
vestal pine
yeah we loot it all and then spent 90% of them supressing gunners
south folio
that's my working theory at least
coarse birch
the new map is fucking INSANE for exe stance bolter
something something bolter bad
spare talon
@hard nexus
south folio
i haven't encountered ammo issues besides being actively stupid and wasteful on a brauto spam build
vestal pine
hard nexus
we're ready coke @spare talon
vestal pine
imma just play psyker for now then, hm
jade juniper
spare talon
solely play zealot?
i was a psyker main up till the crafting update
and the zealot tree was fun enough to draw me to the class and play it more
then i actually got good at melee centric combat
royal vortex
all roads lead to exe stance bolter vet
hard nexus
all roads lead to exe stance bolter vet
the crabification of darktide
median steeple
Mfs be picking up grims in hi int pox gas
jade juniper
youre looking a little toasty there
vestal pine
either psyker or vet until ammo issue is resolved then
south folio
i mean you guys still have plenty of ammo left
it's not like zeroing out at ammo was the issue
coarse birch
there is not an ammo issue unless people are just being waseful
vestal pine
it's not like zeroing out at ammo was the issue
south folio
oh yeah the first screenshot
vestal pine
that's all i'm gonna say
forgot to play 4d chess yea should've laid it down on the ground before starting the event
south folio
i legitimately have never encountered ammo issues when playing but i only play human classes
so i don't know how ogryn is like
vestal pine
does doublebarel even supress stuff
south folio
forgot to play 4d chess yea should've laid it down on the ground before starting...
yeah but in the second screenshot you keep on blaming ammo when your team clearly has ammo and some unspent medpacks
just bring in the evidence as appropriate