why
#zealot-class
vestal pine
crisp furnace
By not cornering yourself
hard nexus
dodge
marsh hill
I KNEW they made dreg ragers better
solar gorge
yes they swing faster
marsh hill
i was dying to those mfs easily last few days
normally they're a piece of cake
but those mfs don't play anymore
i thought i had become bad lmao
solar gorge
you can't disrespect them as much but they're still pushovers when using certain tools
vestal pine
I KNEW they made dreg ragers better
arent you imagining things?
misty nova
Probably forgot to tag that door as so that enemies can't open it
vestal pine
it was liek that last patch
vital pumice
a pack of ragers coming to tickle me used to be nonthreatening but now I fear them nearly as much as crushers
marsh hill
a pack of ragers coming to tickle me used to be nonthreatening but now I fear th...
ong
misty nova
I remember when it first happened
But then it was fixed
Now it's back
marsh hill
also didn't they also fix the thing where u could push a plague ogryn off map via chorus?
misty nova
Brewery is open, start chugging
south folio
they made chorus not stun on every pulse
you can still push bosses off with some planning
vestal pine
I remember when it first happened
But then it was fixed
Now it's back
it was like never fixed
marsh hill
you can still push bosses off with some planning
damn
vestal pine
wouldnt be suprised if that was back
ammo problem would be fine if people can remember they carry one, really
solid ferry
Started jumping into Heresy and I use the MKXV evis with Flak and Carapace. Having more trouble with ragers and wondering if I should swap Carapace to Maniac instead? I run Fury and have been revving before triggering. Crushers have become a pain but not as much as ragers now
Any advice?
vestal pine
oh nice
they buffed
every enemy
and then proceed to nerf stuff
very nice.
great even
misty nova
Started jumping into Heresy and I use the MKXV evis with Flak and Carapace. Havi...
Put Bloodthirsty on that mk15
Crit shredder should resolve any problem
vestal pine
and even all that is not enough
yeah cause smite
zealous mesa
I KNEW they made dreg ragers better
they're crazy now and they put out more damage while you're trying to stagger them
vestal pine
welp
ember yew
Started jumping into Heresy and I use the MKXV evis with Flak and Carapace. Havi...
If you have trouble with ragers, your best friend is any Braced Autogun
vestal pine
rashad is still good since PA stuns them still. neat
zealous mesa
Between that and the shooter changes I have to say it's a good time to be an executors stance ghost lasgun veteran right now
solid ferry
Put Bloodthirsty on that mk15
Okay thank you! Iโll try that
vestal pine
im fine with nerfing in general but least it should come equally
when will they nerf smite unironically
solid ferry
If you have trouble with ragers, your best friend is any Braced Autogun
Yeah I have the Columnus BRAuto and have just been shooting them
zealous mesa
I don't think we needed buffs really but I just wish the new map had more cover
misty nova
Oh yeah, you can shoot ragers on the head rn
vestal pine
tbh you can shoot with whatever gun you fancy
zealous mesa
I am used to using guns at range and it feels weird
zealous mesa
It feels bad to aim at someone's head and the bullets miss
vestal pine
at the cost of having bad flak damage
merry flume
agripina braced autogun is deceptively accurate
ember yew
for me they are accurate as long as you dont try to shoot the snipers 200m away when you cant even see the silhouette
merry flume
sometimes you can even do that
ember yew
its still a pain
misty nova
Agrivolver is currently goated because the crosshair isn't bad anymore
merry flume
it's more accurate from the hip then braced for some reason
zealous mesa
I think it's because the braced recoil shakes side to side
And from the shoulder is more centered
I was wondering why I wasn't destroying the ice when I was slamming it with the bolter mid horde
it feels bad because you can't do the objective and a fight because the ice stops attacks
vestal pine
obviously intended for scabs to take cover in ice.
misty nova
Top 10 targets for any chain weapon
- Heretics
- Ice
Lmao
vestal pine
thats it
im enjoying smite until it gets smithreen'd
ah shit
they nerfed indig saul
solar gorge
super rare legendary
solar gorge
what is this brunt godroll
vestal pine
brunt only gives 1~3 blessings
tame mirage
brunt only gives 1~3 blessings
ah makes sense
tame mirage
even the modifiers are good
its on Pysker tho..
solar gorge
psyker will make good use of the shotgun too
merry flume
i'm glad the updated patch notes have explained why all the pubs i played with have been wipes
tame mirage
what perks are people using on the DB
merry flume
ragers have been buffed, which is slightly annoying but most importantly they MADE DREG SHOOTERS EVEN MORE ANNOYING ๐ญ
its ok i just put on my "i win" gun
south folio
yeah
south folio
cuz the crusher wasn't in the game yet
misty nova
Welp time to relearn it
strange crystal
Wait why did they nerf the crusher?
strange crystal
Seemed like a perfectly fine weapon
misty nova
Now we are talking
tame mirage
then go BACK on it
WOOOOOOOO
im kinda worried about this game
i love it dont get me wrong
but..
mh
vestal pine
YAY BREAKPOINTS ๐
what dis
ashen quartz
i don't mind enemy buffs/weapon nerfs but it'd be nice if more of them were actually in the patch notes
now i feel like i'm gaslighting myself whenever i use a weapon i haven't used in a while
north sedge
i think they should only reveal one change at random per patch
vestal pine
"but its mroe fun that way"
misty nova
i think they should only reveal one change at random per patch
Get Steve Harvey to do the reveal
ornate bone
space marine 2 will flop and you'll all come crawling back to darktide
latent vortex
Okay boys. I have taken off Until Death for more damage nodes. It's pretty difficult because of crushers and maulers that are hidden in hordes but it's not bad lmao
north sedge
what if there's space for two games
tame mirage
i will play both
north sedge
offering different experiences
tame mirage
but more people will just go "OMG I PLAY MARINE!!!@#!@#"
latent vortex
what if there's space for two games
This is my take too
People are allowed to play more than one game at a time lmao
ashen quartz
no, I only play 16 hours of a single game every day
vestal pine
what if patches actually come in coherent and not divided into million pieces
ornate bone
i cannot believe that anyone took my statement seriously
ashen quartz
why not? it's the internet
vestal pine
half the blessings nerf we took was for the itemization
latent vortex
i cannot believe that anyone took my statement seriously
Unfortunately this rhetoric is pretty common :/
ornate bone
i ripped it from an old joke in the sekrio modding server "elden ring will flop and you'll all come crawling back to sekiro"
latent vortex
lmaooo
ornate bone
which is what happened for alot of the modded sekiro playerbase
merry flume
i like elden ring pvp and invasions but after these new dlc weapons idk if i like it so much anymore
ornate bone
is it like back to launch quality
merry flume
just gotta learn how to perfect dodge every 10 stage ash of war
there's a new class of weapon called backhand blade and it's nasty
north sedge
people see a nerf and see red regardless if it's a good change or a change that matters little
it's exhausting
merry flume
first you do an anime dodge that hits hard, then it leaves a waterfowl dance bladestorm at the end (all hits build bleed)
latent vortex
people see a nerf and see red regardless if it's a good change or a change that ...
Imagine curbing powercreep and a bunch of nerds start crying about their power fantasy 
NOO SURVIVALIST IS USELESS NOW
misty nova
Owari da
merry flume
i kinda enjoy this setup, my major issue was getting shredded by gunners in the middle of a horde and lasgun with ghost and second wind means i can jump in a horde and have confidence that i can kill the gunner specifically targeting me while my teammates just try to kill chaff faster than me
latent vortex
Legitimately I still hear people bitch about the nerf to survialist
it's wild
It's not even an "aw man I miss it"
It's "omg it's useless fatshark bad developers"
north sedge
it never matters what it's actually like in practice either
"still solid choice? fuck you it's bad now"
south folio
what if patches actually come in coherent and not divided into million pieces
i'm impressed that you're still mad about this
12 hours in
i guess this is the reason that you're going to settle on being mad on
we've cycled through a few reasons and this is the one
vestal pine
12 hours in
look
merry flume
i kinda get it, how did they forget to include super important info in patch motes
tame mirage
based
merry flume
imagine being a crusher user and going to use your untouched weapon after a big update just for your weapon to feel weird for no discernable reason
misty nova
12 weeks in wrong, 3 months
vestal pine
not like ill change my opinion about it until the next patch drops.
merry flume
i thought my vsync was fucking up or something lmao i thought i had input delay ๐ญ
tame mirage
tbh my duelling sword feels different but thats probably placebo
vestal pine
hoping its not "oh yeah we forgot to write about this"
vestal pine
bad
merry flume
fuck ur right...
vestal pine
opp doesnt have much leverage when the base pen of sauls are
vestal pine
absolutely high
merry flume
skullcrusher/thrust then
merry flume
thrussy
vestal pine
get HV instead
i know its less damage
but sauls dont have enough stagger by itself to sustain skullcrusher
its not like crusher where blessing pool is ass and you always take some kind of stagger blessing
merry flume
so every blessing is bad
vestal pine
and can body maulers
vestal pine
so every blessing is bad
scullcruser is p good
i just dont rate it above HV
since HV basically is always active on humanoid targets
well except ragers
not like you'll proc skullcrushers on those guys too
keen heath
which zealot talent node have that stability buff
frozen glen
dance of death right side
vestal pine
which zealot talent node have that stability buff
the one you take to get to twbs
keen heath
Ta!
fast scroll
How do the backstabs work?
ember yew
It has high damage against armor so Opportunist looks like wasted on it
with Thrust you can at least engage with 3 stacks
misty nova
How do the backstabs work?
You hit the back of the enemies, sometimes the sides count but just to be safe always go for the back
fast scroll
so just anywhere on the back does that include the back of the head?
spare dome
backstabs only check to see if you are being the enemy
draw a horizontal line thru the enemy body and if you are on the 'back' side of that line, it's a backstab
if you are behind that line at an angle and clip the enemies nose, still a backstab
if you are in front of that line at an angle and shoot the dude's literal back, it is not a backstab
south folio
based on some short testing, it seems to just be based on your position relative to the enemy
marsh hill
should i yolo all gold and plasteel to get the perfect catachan?
south folio
imagine sisyphus happy
misty nova
Let's go gambling!
marsh hill
Let's go gambling!
brunt's casino and hadron's roulette
mf could give me a 380 catachan then hadron is like yes u probably want stamina and executor II on it
fleet zealot
spare dome
based on some short testing, it seems to just be based on your position relative...
ye thats all it is
no other details are relevant
south folio
from what crab told me, melee is 90 degrees and ranged backstab is 180
maybe things have changed but that's something to look into if anybody's testing it
spare dome
oh theyre different?
bold dirge
One message removed from a suspended account.
spare dome
3
merry flume
i love and hate the new map
853 kills with smaul
it really is a filter map
you gotta know when to shoot and when to swing
too bad the vet and ogryn didn't get it ๐
elfin steppe
gunnertide
marsh hill
i think i just made an immortal zealot, boutta test it
ocean geode
Hey there. Can anyone please give any tips about new shock mauls? Which version to pick, what are the blessings/perks and moveset?
marsh hill
Hey there. Can anyone please give any tips about new shock mauls? Which version ...
i found them all to be ass tbh, not useful for me on zealot
cunning knoll
Hey there. Can anyone please give any tips about new shock mauls? Which version ...
I agree with above poster
hella mid
tho i didn't gacha roll a ton to see the blessings
fast scroll
which heavy sword would you guys recommend?
ember yew
I'm not fond of Smauls either, feels average at best
fast scroll
this is the only one I have
fast scroll
If I get a better one which blessing should I rip off of it?
marsh hill
i'd rip off rampage tbh
south folio
sausl feel pretty fine to me
i'd say agni 1a is the best because it has a strikedown move as a first attack
whereas the mk3 has none
marsh hill
zealot immortality build caused crash imma try again
south folio
i'd ideally run skullcrusher + high voltage for damage maxxing but skullcrusher + hammerblow is what i got and hammerblow is nice for always staggering ragers
ocean geode
what are your thoughts on double shotty then?
vestal pine
nice vet got buffed
south folio
i personally didn't like it but i didn't use it much
vocal pulsar
double shotty is an extreme skill weapon
vocal pulsar
so arco doesnt like it
vestal pine
i assume next patch would buff vet again
south folio
what buff did vets get
vestal pine
kraks
neat drum
new bug dropped 
elevator door opened
neat drum
enemies couldnt walk thru it, but as you can see sniper could still shoot
south folio
it gives vet the bulwark BP again w/o taking another damage talent and is a minor bump to boss damage
like come on
south folio
so it's just a buff for people who purely only go right side
which would be extremely rare
ocean geode
double shotty is an extreme skill weapon
What so special about it?
south folio
he's just setting up a joke to insult me
spare dome
smh arco lives in extreme mankar paranoia
south folio
because mankar is a bad person
vocal pulsar
What so special about it?
i was insinuating that arcotash is a low skill palyer because he dislike the shotgun
its not actually a high skill gun
south folio
whose moral compass is upside down
spare dome
oh nvm he was right
south folio
oh nvm he was right
u little bitch
spare dome
(;
south folio
don't doubt me ever again
spare dome
dubshotty has tremendous close range damage and has fast swap like the other shotguns
less capacity but reload is tiered
muuuuch better mobility values so you can actually use it to close gaps before firing
frosty herald
They should give it dragon's breath shells
north sedge
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spare dome
yes
north sedge
I can't believe vet is steamrolling auric now with nothing but their 2 krak grenades, incredible
spare dome
theyve been able to do this for like a year
and the extra 20% damage even with other grenade bonuses isnt like
instadetonating all monsters
you have exactly as many grenades now having the same result they did pre-bulwark buff
they still have ridiculous damage fall off, too
vestal pine
instadetonating all monsters
yeah it doesnt, deals only about like 20k with 3 nades so its fine i guess
silly me
north sedge
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spare dome
like yeah strictly speaking this is a buff but the use case of the buff is still super limited since its a resource
and what the buff allows is what was already allowed before (killing a bulwark)
its very trivial, and in a discussion about veteran being problematic, it's not even worth consideration
vestal pine
well whatever
next patch vet gets DR on exec stance or something
spare dome
there's so many other problems lol
vestal pine
i hope he does anyway
spare dome
please nerf VoC already
vestal pine
huge doubt
north sedge
Don't you only get 2 kraks anyway, especially in that very specific scenario
And 20k?
Kraks have never been crazy, still not
spare dome
3 max with the node
proud scroll
Any thoughts
north sedge
Only 380 base? Rough
elfin steppe
Any thoughts
very noice
spare dome
im still figuring out the dubs tbh
proud scroll
Should i swap out Both barrels
elfin steppe
but I personally don't like the shotgun because of how many shooters are in this game. if you have a good vet got you covered it might be good, but still, you need to land a good shot against manics.
spare dome
deathspitter isnt great without infested damage, cause poxwalkers do not die to a blast
so the actual times you stack it up are super rare
and both barrels? most shit dies with the one barrel lol
elfin steppe
I just had a very good team, the went so smooth.
spare dome
especially if you have dance of death
elfin steppe
the talent that massively reduces spray and recoil.
spare dome
well thats the other thing
what else is there
in your case we cant switch the perks
full bore is actually useable with dance of death
so thats a solid option
vestal pine
please nerf VoC already
so funny story i heard
apprantly in betatest there was testing about VoC being nerfed down to 45 second cooldown
which was denied as "it'll kill vet"
spare dome
... i guess thats it
proud scroll
Is the crit chance one bbetter then deathspiteer
vestal pine
anyhoo probably vet aint getting nerfed, he already got hit with survivalist
north sedge
I like that you can have scattershot ready for your next shot while ds you have to keep firing
visual stream
but I personally don't like the shotgun because of how many shooters are in this...
Does it not suppress multiple enemies very well?
north sedge
It felt better to me than ds but i also played like two games with it so not exactly thorough testing
visual stream
Was kind of hoping it did like kickback does
placid fiber
Ugh, I am home... x.x
visual stream
shooters decimate teams now hm
A very frustrating turn of events for the melee-oriented game tbh
fleet zealot
so funny story i heard
apprantly in betatest there was testing about VoC being n...
nerfs instantly kill the class smh don't you realize /joke
fleet zealot
A very frustrating turn of events for the melee-oriented game tbh
DT has always been hybrid, i just hope vets and psykers adjust AND focus the shooters instead of stealing my melee kills
north sedge
A very frustrating turn of events for the melee-oriented game tbh
๐ค
maiden path
yes
fleet zealot
placid fiber
the faceless ferret, edgar
north sedge
DT has always been hybrid, i just hope vets and psykers adjust AND focus the sho...
๐
visual stream
DT has always been hybrid, i just hope vets and psykers adjust AND focus the sho...
Definitely more hybrid than VT2 by a long shot but I feel like it still leans more a little melee
north sedge
Yea man just throw kraks at everything duh
vestal pine
they can do anything rn probably since psyker has smite anyway lol
fleet zealot
Definitely more hybrid than VT2 by a long shot but I feel like it still leans mo...
it's obv supposed to be 50/50 at baseline, adjusting depending on class and builds
visual stream
it's obv supposed to be 50/50 at baseline, adjusting depending on class and buil...
Which it does a pretty decent job at. Still more mechanics and interactions for melee though
vestal pine
chainswords are fun
placid fiber
Yea man just throw kraks at everything duh
So, Dough, do you hulp people like Ice?
north sedge
Melee is inherently more complicated because the action you take with guns in anyway in game or life is aim then shoot
placid fiber
(hulp is pluh spelled backwards lol)
north sedge
I dunno stan called me this so now we are pluh
placid fiber
I dunno stan called me this so now we are pluh
placid fiber
I haven't been doing good today. I had to wait until like... 20 minutes ago to get my pills x.x
vestal pine
cant imagien that though
visual stream
Melee is inherently more complicated because the action you take with guns in an...
I mean knife fights in real life aren't duels like in movies and games either, nobody is clashing blades and it's just who falls over or gives up first xd
Either way it's more mechanically intense which is still the point
north sedge
It's still inherently more complicated due to proximity
south folio
yeah it doesnt, deals only about like 20k with 3 nades so its fine i guess
3840 against bosses
i'll let you do the math on what 3x 3840 is
north sedge
i'll let you do the math on what 3x 3840 is
1,000,000?
south folio
also, you need to invest points into grenadier for 3 grenades
vestal pine
i'll let you do the math on what 3x 3840 is
dealt about 25000 with 3 kraks on a boss
elfin steppe
why does Zealot have only one toughness regen passive
placid fiber
why does Zealot have only one toughness regen passive
eggnog
elfin steppe
and you need to invest three points to get it
north sedge
Huh?
elfin steppe
second wind is the only toughness regen that matters
visual stream
and you need to invest three points to get it
It's good to discourage natural toughness regen on the get-in-your-face class
north sedge
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visual stream
Oh you mean replenishment
elfin steppe
others are all trash
vestal pine
others doesnt exist
north sedge
Vicious offering is pretty good if you have a weapon that uses alot of heavies
placid fiber
Vicious offering is pretty good if you have a weapon that uses alot of heavies
Like the heavy sword?
merry flume
I like that you can have scattershot ready for your next shot while ds you have ...
its ok they nerfed everything but knife / scattershot / manstopper is still a thing
placid fiber
elfin steppe
Vicious offering is pretty good if you have a weapon that uses alot of heavies
shooters exist
spare dome
so does sliding
merry flume
love killing anything lined up with each other with one knife
north sedge
And?
placid fiber
so does sliding
^
elfin steppe
so what, you heavy every single shooters?
vestal pine
duh
north sedge
Yea pretty much
spare dome
you need toughness dont you?
keen heath
does stun from overwhelming force considered as electrocuted?
vestal pine
mullion different ways really
north sedge
There's pretty much always something to melee
vestal pine
yeah like the 3 gunners standing right next to a DH
idk if snipers are worse
or gunners
on that exact position
placid fiber
Yes
vestal pine
hate it regardless
placid fiber
the answer is simply yes
vestal pine
you forgot the silent crusher behind you
merry flume
me tonight
vestal pine
me tonight
why the fuck is this having korean soju brand
elfin steppe
i only hope they change the first right talent node, that's a complete waste point for my build.
fast scroll
merry flume
why the fuck is this having korean soju brand
idk how to tell you this
but things can be popular outside of it's original market
vestal pine
im genuinely suprised
our vodka diluted in water with more chemicals to taste funny
is popular outside of korea
merry flume
im a big fan of jinro 24
ripe quest
why does Zealot have only one toughness regen passive
Get that lame no-brain shit out of here we rocking the +toughness on basic actions instead.
merry flume
then i make my own fruit simple syrup to add to it
vestal pine
im a big fan of jinro 24
actually neat
vestal pine
then i make my own fruit simple syrup to add to it
you make cocktails with it?
thats something
dont think we ever drink it like thay
vestal pine
true
placid fiber
Yeah
placid fiber
"flavored" alcohol sucks lol
vestal pine
idk if its cheaper to buy vodka and dilute it at that point lmao
merry flume
ill fuck up soju not a big fan of liquor tho
placid fiber
What I did was take cheap hard liquor and use lemon juice and mix it 50 50
I was a binge drinker tho
merry flume
same
placid fiber
It was disgusting
vestal pine
lol
placid fiber
I don't know which was worse, the lemon or the liquor lol
ripe quest
Vicious offering is pretty good if you have a weapon that uses alot of heavies
It'd be funny if they also made Vicious Offering per-swing. Lower the % too on it. I think it'd be super funny.
elfin steppe
Get that lame no-brain shit out of here we rocking the +toughness on basic actio...
imagine you need a brain to play FPS.
placid fiber
New jeans
ripe quest
imagine you need a brain to play FPS.
A brain? In my Fatshark game? Nooo
placid fiber
elfin steppe
someone was saying the SM2 is gonna kill DT, but they are quite different games.
vestal pine
yes
placid fiber
A brain? In *my* Fatshark game? Nooo
That's why I was so good at darktide, I only had a singular brain cell :3
abstract heart
i am VERY happy with my new bolt pistol roll
vestal pine
darktide aint getting roadkilled anyway
merry flume
bolt pistol is actually fun to use
abstract heart
it feels pretty good. puncture helps with one-shotting trappers and flammers
elfin steppe
i am VERY happy with my new bolt pistol roll
Looks perfect, but you might want another crit blessing
placid fiber
I think bolt pistol would be my prefered weapon of the 2 new ranged weapons
elfin steppe
i only take puncture because is locked.
vestal pine
well the other one is a melee with ammunition
placid fiber
I like having some range lol
abstract heart
Looks perfect, but you might want another crit blessing
Perhaps in future, my build isn't super oriented towards crits and I like puncture since it pushes you over the breakpoints for trappers and flamers
merry flume
i take puncture because if it doesn't die to 2 bullets i immediately have 30% crit chance
jade juniper
question, now that bolt pistol exists, is there reason to use pistol over bolt gun?
or vice versa
vestal pine
you cant full auto boltpistol
placid fiber
And bolter has slightly more ammo lol
elfin steppe
right now the bolt pistol is just a weaker revolver.
jade juniper
probably good for that one accuracy penance then, yeah?
ripe quest
question, now that bolt pistol exists, is there reason to use pistol over bolt g...
Faster pullout, same damage, less ammo, less firerate. Faster access to a quick accurate shot. Also you get Surgical + DA which is nutty.
abstract heart
question, now that bolt pistol exists, is there reason to use pistol over bolt g...
the bolt pistol is faster to equip and reload. bolter has more ammunition and option for burst fire.
placid fiber
25% more reserves, and close to double the base mag of the pistol
merry flume
how forgiving is the revolver with headshots, because i've made snapshots ive had no business hitting before
north sedge
Pistol has crazy cleave still
merry flume
or just getting headshot back to back
north sedge
Just whatever flavor you prefer really
vestal pine
Pistol has crazy cleave still
people say its bad and idk whays trye
placid fiber
I feel like the bolter could get away with 120 or 150 base ammo for the reserves
north sedge
Err revolver i mean
quaint verge
I can recommend kickback vet 
vestal pine
I feel like the bolter could get away with 120 or 150 base ammo for the reserves
careful what you say, it might get that and then be nerfed 3 months later
solar gorge
DB vet with always prepared ๐
placid fiber
careful what you say, it might get that and then be nerfed 3 months later
You mean 2 weeks later
solar gorge
bueno
merry flume
itll get nerfed but it won't appear in patch notes until end of next day 
abstract heart
people say its bad and idk whays trye
some parts about it (the ads jitter, the breakpoints on dreg gunners and some maniacs) feel pretty frustrating
vestal pine
you assume fatshark is competant
abstract heart
but if you get a good roll and can push yourself over those breakpoints its pretty fun. i've been having a blast with it.
placid fiber
~~you assume fatshark is competant~~
that's what you think
north sedge
I hear you only need kraks now anyway on vet
placid fiber
I've been playing Darktide since it was released, more or less... I know how competent fatshark is lol
elfin steppe
i don't know, the chastise range rending wasn't fixed after almost three years.
abstract heart
i always picked the bolter over the revolver for flavor but now with the bolt pistol i feel like i can actually quick swap to snap a sniper or a trapper
vestal pine
~~that's what you think~~
if they fix the newly introduced chatti heavy attack jank in a month i'd be suprised
elfin steppe
then they suddenly decided to fix it.
vestal pine
just saw a guy quit DT cause of it lol
placid fiber
i don't know, the chastise range rending wasn't fixed after almost three years.
In one of the patches it basically said that was intentional
when they nerfed the flamethrower's ammo iirc
placid fiber
I expected a nerf eventually tho
north sedge
i don't know, the chastise range rending wasn't fixed after almost three years.
But the game hasn't even been out for 2 yet
elfin steppe
i won't quit a game for reasons like this but it feels stupid you fix a well-known bug after three years.
ok, make it two.
that'
not my point
ripe quest
Official lore is that it was assumed to be a bug but then Fatshark referred to it as a feature in a hotfix. The only actual issue is that shit still isn't in the description for the ult.
placid fiber
But the game hasn't even been out for 2 yet
close, if you count the closed beta
solar gorge
better late than never as that guy used to say
vestal pine
i won't quit a game for reasons like this but it feels stupid you fix a well-kno...
not a bug when they said it was intentional 
north sedge
And not 2 yet!
abstract heart
i won't quit a game for reasons like this but it feels stupid you fix a well-kno...
and yet close range is still 8m. but then again i heard that was getting fixed soon.
placid fiber
close to 2 years I mean
north sedge
Beta doesn't count not out!
placid fiber
It's fun being able to play ror2 while waiting on the initial bugs to get fixed lol
vestal pine
which hasnt been fixed
placid fiber
I've been doing artifact of glass, sacrifice, metamorphosis, and swarms challenge runs in ror2 hehe
elfin steppe
does anybody know where is Lazzor?
ripe quest
and yet close range is still 8m. but then again i heard that was getting fixed s...
Was that not intended? They even added a linear falloff scaling to it for stuff like Anoint.
elfin steppe
haven't seen him for a while
ripe quest
does anybody know where is Lazzor?
He's chilling for a bit.
placid fiber
does anybody know where is Lazzor?
He's coming back with cigarettes and beer on july something-th iirc
vestal pine
so he went to get milk?
south folio
prob referring to it being 8m and not 15m
placid fiber
so he went to get milk?
If by milk you mean cigarettes then yes lol
It took him like... 1 year tho
@south folio Hey, Arco, remember this? :3
I was so happy how that turned out, due to me having almost 0 experience and skill with editing videos at all lol
ripe quest
prob referring to it being 8m and not 15m
yee but it's like 8m falling off to 30m instead of just 15m.
placid fiber
All this talk is making me want to play ror2, for some reason, damnit xD
Oh wait, I wanna play rorr!
I am listening to e3 m3 Deep in the Code, from Doom as well >:3
south folio
yee but it's like 8m falling off to 30m instead of just 15m.
yeah p minor thing
ripe quest
They should make a sequel to rorr where it's 3D and they add new items and bosses, could even tell the story of the brother of Providence
placid fiber
They should make a sequel to rorr where it's 3D and they add new items and bosse...
Rorr was better off as a 2d game, imo. Not just because I played ror1 and 100%'ed my vanilla profile, but, just with how the enemies work in the game
maiden path
placid fiber
Hm... I wonder how sacrifice, dissonance, prestige, glass, and origin would feel in returns...
I should add cognation as well, for the lulz, lol
Man... sacrifice sucks without swarms :/
maiden path
yay iron banner
placid fiber
Wow... drones are actually useful with the artifact of glass, I forgot that lol
frozen glen
They should make a sequel to rorr where it's 3D and they add new items and bosse...
they should make another darktide esque game but it takes place in the warhammer fantasy universe
maiden path
they should make another darktide esque game but it takes place in the warhammer...
if they make it with skaven instead of lizardmen i might just fucking blow a gasket
merry flume
๐
doing a little post july 4th event in vr after irl stuff and trying to make a good playlist is hard
too many good songs came out recently
placid fiber
ow, I died on stage 2 lol
maiden path
why the fuck do I need a 50 dollar dlc to play a version of pvp
solar gorge
certified destiny moment
median steeple
why the fuck do I need a 50 dollar dlc to play a version of pvp
Its to stop cheaters since the game is f2p you can just make another account when banned
Oh sweet a new space marine trailer
maiden path
Its to stop cheaters since the game is f2p you can just make another account whe...
why do I have to buy the most recent dlc
instead of a fucking old one
median steeple
Because the old dlcs go in mega sale so cheaters could just buy those
Does this even count as a trailer let's look and seen
maiden path
maybe bungie should make a competent anti cheat
median steeple
Tbf it actually catches cheaters a lot of the time but it gets senile after a while
Happens in R6 as well since it's the same anti cheat
maiden path
it sounds like instead of being a normal company and getting a new anti cheat that works they wanna keep all the whales around
maiden path
why do I need the most recent dlc for a single piece of pvp
why can't they use a anti cheat that works instead of alienating people
ripe quest
why do I need the most recent dlc for a single piece of pvp
mrw the online mode needs people to use the updated version of the game to play the online mode
median steeple
Cheaters and anti cheats are in a constant arms race
maiden path
saint-14 should of got kept in that death loop or whatever da fuck
ivory marlin
Beb wanna do a custom pvp match in a second
maiden path
i wanna do raids now!!
ivory marlin
Real
maiden path
i was gonna do trails of osiris for armor
but now i wanna do glass raid for its armor
ivory marlin
Root of nightmares
Its like the only raid ive done besides GoS
Technically Iโve only done the final encounter on gos
faint galleon
Question for fellow zealots: Has anyone else noticed a nerf to Invocation of Death? It doesn't seem to be triggering for me all that often despite constantly critting with Shred.
frozen glen
its been nerfed yes
its per attack instead of per swing
per enemies cleaved* i mean
frozen glen
they changed the cooldown reduction from per enemies hit to reducing it per attack instead
so a crit attack will only land you 1 second at most
faint galleon
OOOOH okay
So each crit swing would reduce it as opposed to every enemy hit by a crit
frozen glen
yep
faint galleon
Got it, tysm!
merry flume
they wanted more knife zealots
opaque island
https://youtu.be/kNplHvm-i3k?si=-5YE9DFX7miXwjHr
im fucking excited
median steeple
Damn we're not getting a beta for space marine 2
They said the game is pretty much done and so now they're spending the last 2 months working on optimization
And a beta would take away devs working on that
low gulch
Any recommendations for blessings, perks and dump stat for the bolt pistol?
median steeple
Deadly accurate/surgical and flak/maniac or flak/cara?
Also mobility is the dump stat
median steeple
they dont want you to see assets from World War Z
I know it's a joke but I don't even think they could reuse assets from wwz since they're on different engines iirc
hearty lily
Is damage relative to causing stagger? Like if I have a "+20% damage to Maniacs" perk on, will the extra damage help cause a stagger effect to Maniacs?
spare talon
@royal vortex crusher actually did recieve attack speed changes
Plus lots of enemies, particularly ranged, have been buffed quite significantly too
ripe quest
Is damage relative to causing stagger? Like if I have a "+20% damage to Maniacs"...
Damage itself, no. You're looking for power bonuses. Perks are only damage bonuses.
median steeple
Ok so that explains the reapers on crack
hearty lily
Damage itself, no. You're looking for power bonuses. Perks are only damage bonus...
gotcha gotcha
median steeple
Thought I was insane
solar gorge
shooters overall are stronger, really like this change so far
they were too easy to just ignore before
still kinda are but it's better
frozen glen
didnt notice any of these changes at all
misty nova
"type and duration of stagger is also scaled based upon how far you exceed the threshold of an enemy's hitmass value"
Still trying to figure it out what it means
frozen glen
only thing i noticed is how many barrels there are in the new fuckin map
misty nova
Fr, not enough barrels hanging by chains
jade juniper
donkey kong?
median steeple
jade juniper
when do we get plague marines to deal with?
is that in the other hive?
the one we dont talk about?
misty nova
Ah yes the hive that no one talks about
No one talks about that hive
Hive talk one no
No talk hive
Hive
jade juniper
median steeple
The
jade juniper
me when i when the she where i went on the to way
misty nova
Ogryn throwing barrels
So
L4D tank
jade juniper
true
merry flume
the only part about the shooter buff i hate is that it reveals players that are just straight up bad at shooting enemies that shoot back at them
||controller players||
hopefully this means the meta of blessings that give you ranged or suppression immunity will begin
spare dome
not really, right now nobody is prioritizing them appropriately, good or bad
like ill get shot by three dudes and still focus on poxwalkers because thats what you did for 18 months
now its a mistake
merry flume
not me, i hate getting all of my toughness chunked by shooters that only aim at your forehead
oak cargo
i'm out here strokin' my shock maul i got lotion on my shock maul
scenic chasm
maiden path
when do we get plague marines to deal with?
plague marines would kick our fucking heads off
guys are practically
obsidian prairie
plague marines would kick our fucking heads off
Or we obliterate them with krak grenades and a plasma, an ogryn with a pickaxe, literally blowing their mind, and shroudfield thunderhammer
open pollen
Ah ha, so the game twas rendered harder. I like these changes. It feels like Auric's a propah ball busta now. As a masochist, I approve!
merry flume
god i wish i were a plague marine
somber drift
plague marines would kick our fucking heads off
I mean, we kill Beasts of Nurgle which are known to be more powerful than Plague Marines.
Power scaling in this game be damned.
maiden path
Or we obliterate them with krak grenades and a plasma, an ogryn with a pickaxe, ...
plague marines can eat that shit for breakfast
maiden path
I mean, we kill Beasts of Nurgle which are known to be more powerful than Plague...
gameplay mechanic..............
somber drift
gameplay mechanic..............
Exactly my point.
This is a game where power scaling is already a bit done away with.
maiden path
gameplay mechanics be dammned!!
obsidian prairie
plague marines can eat that shit for breakfast
They are tough 5 plasmas are strength 7
buoyant pewter
When am I getting prosthetic arm and leg cosmetics. I yearn to be more machine than man. Already running voice box rebreather
maiden path
the same team that can kill a beast of nurgle can be wiped by it
somber drift
We have Ogryns who can bully Beasts of Nurgle on their own.
obsidian prairie
Zealots who do the same thing
somber drift
And also, if we wanna go with lore accurate power scaling, Ogryn should be immune to gunfire.
I'm just saying, gameplay before lore.
maiden path
that same ogryn could be beat to death by a plague marine
shit doesnt make sense!!
they couldnt make a plague marine fair without stepping on the toes of lore too much
beast of nurgle are fair by not stepping on da toes of lore too much
somber drift
that same ogryn could be beat to death by a plague marine
That same Plague Marine could be beat to death by an Ogryn too.
maiden path
That same Plague Marine could be beat to death by an Ogryn too.
ogryns can not beat a plague marine
somber drift
they couldnt make a plague marine fair without stepping on the toes of lore too ...
This game already takes massive shits on the lore.
brave plover
Yo guys where do I get this outfit?
north sedge
ok but i think we can all agree that my dad can beat up your dad
obsidian prairie
ogryns can not beat a plague marine
They can kill fucking terminators
buoyant pewter
Yo guys where do I get this outfit?
Yarrrr
obsidian prairie
They can kill a plague marine
somber drift
A lot of people forget how strong Ogryns are.
maiden path
They can kill fucking terminators
yea when their juiced up to the fucking gills
obsidian prairie
No
maiden path
plague marines cant feel pain on top of being space marines
obsidian prairie
They can just do it
north sedge
the torso and hat are rogue trader set, just shop rotation, the pants were a chinese new year set i think?
somber drift
As soon as an Ogryn gets two hands on a Space Marine/Plague Marine-
uh oh
wish boned
obsidian prairie
There is an instance of an ogryn shattering at least 2 chaos terminators before dying
maiden path
this is coming down to 'my book says my favorite character can beat urs so hmph!'
brave plover
the torso and hat are rogue trader set, just shop rotation, the pants were a chi...
Thanks
maiden path
lets quit dis.......
somber drift
I'm just saying, this game already takes massive shits on the lore.
So we can only use the lore argument so much.
But I'll leave it at that.
buoyant pewter
Thoughts
buoyant pewter
them patterns dont match....
I know they donโt, but I didnโt want to wear both of the pieces from the chest, and I didnโt have a patternless version of the bottom
I donโt think the mismatch is too noticeable tho
maiden path
now make him look like this
buoyant pewter
I would rock with the chest piece for sure
thorny lotus
what weapons do you guys like? ฤฑ had the most fun with the revolver but ฤฑ am kinda unsure about melees. I am lvl12 if that helps
buoyant pewter
I gotta put Xbox in my name tbh
maiden path
that chest piece doesnt have the suspenders
oh
i feel bad for u wtf
if ur on xbox i'd make my guy look like dat too then
buoyant pewter
what weapons do you guys like? ฤฑ had the most fun with the revolver but ฤฑ am kin...
Me likey eviscerator mk15 and bistol
buoyant pewter
if ur on xbox i'd make my guy look like dat too then
I do what I can with what I got
Lol
thorny lotus
Me likey eviscerator mk15 and bistol
ฤฑ just saw an eviscerator on melk which ฤฑ just unlocked
buoyant pewter
You probably only got the first one
thorny lotus
ofc ฤฑ don't have any currency to buy it
buoyant pewter
Which is fine too but I prefer the later one
buoyant pewter
ofc ฤฑ don't have any currency to buy it
We grind
north sedge
i wouldnt waste coin on melk until 30
buoyant pewter
i wouldnt waste coin on melk until 30
^
thorny lotus
i wouldnt waste coin on melk until 30
oh ฤฑ am not planning on buying from vendors for a while
ฤฑ am using what ฤฑ get from missions
ฤฑ jus asked to look out for specific thing
s,
misty nova
ฤฑ just saw an eviscerator on melk which ฤฑ just unlocked
That would be the Mk2, Mk15 is at level 19 iirc
buoyant pewter
The I is fuckin me up
spare talon
Homestuck typing quirk
brave plover
It is just me or all the new mega fashion outfits are amazing except Zealot
austere mist
zealot mains,,, please provide the veteran thats completely fucked up type drip,,,,
misty nova
If you ever pick the Evis2, learn some basic combos
thorny lotus
The I is fuckin me up
ฤฑ am turkish so we have lowercase I
buoyant pewter
It is just me or all the new mega fashion outfits are amazing except Zealot
Wym like the ones in shop rn?
thorny lotus
That would be the Mk2, Mk15 is at level 19 iirc
it is yeah
buoyant pewter
ฤฑ am turkish so we have lowercase I
Ohhhhh okay okay
brave plover
Wym like the ones in shop rn?
overall
thorny lotus
turkish has a couple weird ones in terms of letters
spare talon
ฤฑ am turkish so we have lowercase I
I'm so sorry, hopefully they find a cure soon
buoyant pewter
overall
Oh well yeah thatโs fair. I donโt really fuck with a lot of the Psyker stuff but vet pretty much always gets good stuff
thorny lotus
I'm so sorry, hopefully they find a cure soon
it makes it so hard to write properly in english lmao
brave plover
I still have the Aquilas from pre-purchase
because I didn't see anything worth to buy
buoyant pewter
I would really like some more mechanical parts for zealot. Voice box rebreather is a great start
thorny lotus
btw when should ฤฑ start doing quickplay lvl2? I did low intensity lvl 2 missions but don't know how much of a difference that makes
patent patrol
I got this. I think this stat roll is really good right? I know it's gonna fuck itself up SOMEHOW but
buoyant pewter
btw when should ฤฑ start doing quickplay lvl2? I did low intensity lvl 2 missions...
I mean just go up when you feel comfortable going up. Thereโs no specific time frame. When you can realistically survive a difficulty in most scenarios, go up.
Thereโs always a chance youโll die but thatโs life
thorny lotus
f it ฤฑ am doing it
buoyant pewter
I got this. I think this stat roll is really good right? I know it's gonna fuck ...
I see bricks in your future
patent patrol
I see bricks in your future
Likely.
thorny lotus
not me acting like lvl 2 is such a big jump
patent patrol
It's like an 80% chance this thing gets bricked.
buoyant pewter
~~not me acting like lvl 2 is such a big jump~~
Everyone starts somewhere g
thorny lotus
Everyone starts somewhere g
ain't that the truth
buoyant pewter
When I first started the jump between sedition and uprising I got totally boned lol
Not to mention from 3-4-5
thorny lotus
When I first started the jump between sedition and uprising I got totally boned ...
stop scaring me pls
buoyant pewter
Lol trial by fire
placid fiber
Btw guys, this is how you loot in rorr lol
spare talon
stop scaring me pls
There is no noticeable difference between 1 and 2
placid fiber
Btw guys, this is how you loot in rorr lol
@north sedge Idk, Dough, is this enough loot? lol
buoyant pewter
There is no noticeable difference between 1 and 2
Probably is for someone who is new to it
Def easier to say there isnโt when you mostly play high diff
spare talon
Probably is for someone who is new to it
No, that was my opinion back when I could still fail malice and I thought damnation was out of reach for me
I genuinely think there is no noticeable difference in difficulty between 1 and 2
buoyant pewter
No, that was my opinion back when I could still fail malice and I thought damnat...
๐คทโโ๏ธ different for everyone I guess
spare talon
The main difference you'll find is you'll have less moments where you're literally just walking
Because there will be 3 poxwalkers in the room instead of 1
Which changes the fight from lasting 2 seconds to 4 seconds
spare dome
i genuinely think i could do a 1 in my sleep, if someone handled moving me through the map
next trench
placid fiber
@north sedge btw, this is how fast I spawn the chests rn lol
vital gyro
Whats the dumpstat on a bolt pistol? Mobility?
spare talon
Whats the dumpstat on a bolt pistol? Mobility?
yes
austere lagoon
how does this blessing work? is it stagger a target with a jab to get a 2s buff?
austere lagoon
doesnt work at all against big bois?
placid fiber
Whats the dumpstat on a bolt pistol? Mobility?
mobility and stability, from what I have heard
vital gyro
Thinking Sprint Eff to either Maniac or Flak? Run n Gun to something else, still collecting blessings tho
spare dome
doesnt work at all against big bois?
yea thats the catch
brave plover
I'm following this build but I don't know how to properly use the Chainsword and how is the rotation of it https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9a4fa304-0b88-4cf8-827a-d0435327a8c3/zealot-meta-no-stealth
marsh hill
I'm following this build but I don't know how to properly use the Chainsword and...
who made this
maiden path
how do you properly use a chainsword
marsh hill
how do you properly use a chainsword
rely on teammates
brave plover
who made this
I don't know. A guy called Razgriz ๐คทโโ๏ธ
marsh hill
chainsword fucks
the team
spare talon
crit chance perk
not building into crit chance/crit talents in the talent tree
marsh hill
WHAT THE FUCK
WHY IS BLEED FOR THE EMP THERE
bro got robbed off plasteel from this build
spare talon
yeah that build is mid at best
it has the fundamentals there but really fumbles a lot of things
merry flume
the zealot meta is the fact that the website only has a upvote feature and not a comment section to shit talk whoever made it
spare talon
exactly
spare dome
it would be endless shittalk
merry flume
yes and
delicate shadow
ngl 99% of builds I see people running are extremely mid
maiden path
not mine
merry flume
yeah if only build variety in the game was better
maiden path
cause i use one from someone in this chat
spare dome
hell im extremely mid
delicate shadow
people will run objectively bad perks, talents that don't interact the way they think they do etc.
clear knot
ngl 99% of builds I see people running are extremely mid
jokes on you i read contras bible and slay out
spare talon
I'm following this build but I don't know how to properly use the Chainsword and...
while i personally cant help with chainsword as im quite unfamiliar with them, but i can certainly help with tweaks to the talent tree
maiden path
wtf are we talking about
delicate shadow
a relic of the past
clear knot
LOL
brave plover
while i personally cant help with chainsword as im quite unfamiliar with them, b...
You don't see it good?
spare talon
You don't see it good?
chain weapons arent my thing, but theyre good
brave plover
I mean the tree
maiden path
what
spare talon
You don't see it good?
the overall route makes sense, but there are some glaring decisions they made in there that are very questionable and could be put elsewhere
brave plover
I see
north sedge
those razgriz builds got popular basically because he posted them quickly on gameslantern when they updated the build editor and slapped meta on them
spare talon
such as this talent being taken
which only reduces the damage when your health would otherwise cross the wound threshold in your health bar
buoyant pewter
Am I a joke to u
spare talon
but this build takes absolutely 0 extra wounds, thats only really worth it on a martyrdom build, which is basically what this talent was made for
so this talent serves little to no purpose
vs the other one along the path which is 7.5% toughness on a heavy attack kill
which is pretty good all around regardless what build you use
maiden path
fleet zealot
maiden path
brave plover
so this talent serves little to no purpose
Should I swap it then?
maiden path
a million goddammned plagues upon your household mankar!!!!!
spare talon
I'm following this build but I don't know how to properly use the Chainsword and...
(woe, wall of text be upon ye)
the blue node here realistically only gives 10% sprint speed, which if you actually really like that, who am i to stop you, zoom funny, but the second effect "always count as dodging when sprinting, even with no stamina" is deceiving as it only is in relation to ranged gunfire, which can be dodged anyway by just sliding while also conserving stamina, and can be done with no stamina to begin with, so this second effect is kinda doing something for you that you can already do anyway
the purple node isnt really worth the talent point as it at most can give 30% toughness every 6 seconds, since it gives 2% per stack you consume, and can only be applied when you have no active stacks, and realistically you wont be activating it that much when it would actually benefit you
spare talon
Should I swap it then?
id personally recommend it
it wouldnt change the pathing and youd get a much more potent effect considering the setup
frosty herald
(woe, wall of text be upon ye)
the blue node here realistically only gives 10% sprint speed, which if you actually really like that, who am i to stop you, zoom funny, but the second effect "always count as dodging when sprinting, even with no stamina" is deceiving as it only is in relation to ranged gunfire, which can be dodged anyway by just sliding while also conserving stamina, and can be done with no stamina to begin with, so this second effect is kinda doing something for you that you can already do anyway
the purple node isnt really worth the talent point as it at most can give 30% toughness every 6 seconds, since it gives 2% per stack you consume, and can only be applied when you have no active stacks, and realistically you wont be activating it that much when it would actually benefit you
brave plover
id personally recommend it
I swapped it
frosty herald
Im sorry little one
visual stream
Can anyone who's used chord on zealot tell me why you would ever use it over an eviscerator?
My assumption was that evis is just better chord
spare talon
i dont use either but iirc chord has actually better crowd clear inherently and better crit damage and stuff
north sedge
chainsword has ridiculous horde clear
frosty herald
https://tenor.com/view/nokotan-deer-girl-gif-3044223601259892450
SHIKONOKO
fleet zealot
i have no idea what this deer anime is but i love it
buoyant pewter
Can anyone who's used chord on zealot tell me why you would ever use it over an ...
I didnโt even know zealot had any melee other than evi
frosty herald
brave plover
chainsword has ridiculous horde clear
clearing how? how is the rotation of the chainsword?
spare talon
like if i recall waht exhil said
the crit damage in a cleaved swing has no falloff
fleet zealot
north sedge
basically just do a heavy then a bunch of lights, repeat
spare talon
i think it was exhil who said that
fleet zealot
clearing how? how is the rotation of the chainsword?
which chainsword lol
north sedge
it just blows through stuff very fast
fleet zealot
depends on which variants
spare talon
based on the build hes using i assume the xiiig
fleet zealot
you just want to combo your lights or heavies based on what will give you sweeping attacks
brave plover
which chainsword lol
Cadia Mk XIIIg Assault Chainsword
sterile basalt
13g u can use PA > [L3 > H3]
maiden path
sterile basalt
On mk4 u use H1 > H2 > L3 > H0
buoyant pewter
https://tenor.com/view/elf-houseelf-hogwarts-legacy-%D1%8D%D0%BB%D1%8C%D1%84-%D1...
Hitting the griddy
Poorly, but hitting it
brave plover
which chainsword lol
oh okok wait, the guide uses MK XIIIg but I have MK IV
brave plover
On mk4 u use H1 > H2 > L3 > H0
What is H0?
fleet zealot
if you have mk4 just use heavies no?
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chainsword has ridiculous horde clear
I thought the point of evisc was good horde clear though
sterile basalt
What is H0?
conditionally modified H2 after L3
fleet zealot
or do what 955 said
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Only ever used chord on vet and psyker though and never used evisc though so
patent patrol
Ok maybe I'm crazy but the 100% melee rending patch made martyrdom Zealot nutty.
Lol.
ripe quest
What is H0?
Some weapons have hidden attacks that you can chain to with certain moves. The H3 (or H0 as some refer to it as) is identical to the other heavies.
ripe quest
maybe it hasn't changed but
yee they swapped an armor downgrade to +100% (melee) rending. It's a colossal buff to melee performance.
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he looks like he is going through it
north sedge
I thought the point of evisc was good horde clear though
it's good, but evisc is more in the middle as it does do better single target than chsword
patent patrol
yee they swapped an armor downgrade to +100% (melee) rending. It's a colossal bu...
It did hurt a lot of the guns tho. Since a lot were REALLY strong in combination with chastise to blast through crushers
but I digress.
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it's good, but evisc is more in the middle as it does do better single target th...
Ohhh okay then
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It did hurt a lot of the guns tho. Since a lot were REALLY strong in combination...
I think the one who was hurt the most was bolter tbh, that was its one thing it did better than anything else to my knowledge
viral hare
yee they swapped an armor downgrade to +100% (melee) rending. It's a colossal bu...
What was the change again I thought they just made fury not work with ranged
ripe quest
I think the one who was hurt the most was bolter tbh, that was its one thing it ...
Flamer
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Was probably a necessary nerf though
patent patrol
now I can consistently one shot crushers. Mostly because my THammer is a BIT below average. Specifically because of the 69% first target and Thrust 3.
brave plover
And how different is MK XIIIg rotation?
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Flamer
Flamer should still be good for that, no? Unless you mean it did it better, which yeah probably
ivory marlin
crying rn
spare talon
personally i dont think it was necessary given the window you had for it was pretty slim
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spare talon
but its also like
whatever
maiden path
overwatch had no buisness