zealot-class

[crisp glade]

[shy badge]

Hadron is already working her magic on this sadly

[sonic totem]

That stability... Ow

[shy badge]

Yeah that part is gonna be interesting

[sonic totem]

I mean hey, just gotta land them shots, right

Rest looks awesome though

[shy badge]

So far the recoil doesn't feel much worse than my 80% stab ones

[sonic totem]

Is the sway alright?

When you ADS?

[shy badge]

sway is worse for sure

[dense karma]

quick check is this for crusher or power maul because it doesnt actually say

[solar gorge]

shock maul

preview on your character and you'll see

[vestal pine]

rate the shockgun

[dense karma]

oh yeah that is a button

thanks

[frosty herald]

no both barrels bricked

[vestal pine]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/794801623036854302/1165501685792251924/crumple.gif

[sonic totem]

Probably change out unyielding for Flak, and scatter for the 6.5% power on kill one

[fleet fractal]

nnnNNNOOO

[vestal pine]

id rather replace infested with carapace thanks

[sonic totem]

For single target, yeah sure. But using DB as a single target weapon is like using a fork to eat peas

[vestal pine]

we use chopsticks to eat peas.

[sonic totem]

Rip my eyes out with chopsticks so I never have to read that again

[vestal pine]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkJhLx7sbZ0

[lusty oar]

soup too

[sonic totem]

Damn

[vestal pine]

soup with stuff in it is usually drunk by lifting up the whole bowl, and sliding in the solids with a chopstick

so close enough.

[sonic totem]

Ah, it's called Deathspitter

Also my point still stands. DB single target can work, but there are way better tools for that job

It's AoE clear is better imo

[vestal pine]

dont remember anything oneshotting maulers

do need doublebarrel tho

[sonic totem]

Oneshot headshot?

[vestal pine]

bodyshot

[sonic totem]

Without flak perk?

[zinc talon]

GET

TIDED

[frosty herald]

get this CREEPY ASS DUDE OUT OF MY SHIP

the fuck swagger even doing here

[vestal pine]

where the fuck is he

[frosty herald]

The comms

[neat drum]

3rd person gaming

[zinc talon]

Dorktard becomes a brand new game with third person

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/111

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1255825791023841290/Desktop_2024.06.27_-_05.01.26.10.DVR.mp4?ex=667e8a68&is=667d38e8&hm=315cc0c81a12289fbf00c6a5aad3fa81190b877321b618acae7b7ae61a1a394b&

whoops

wrong channel

[ornate bone]

is it worth starting a new character and grinding the low level blessings for a headstart on the update

[polar nexus]

I think having the last tier will automatically get you the tiers before

[gray ice]

Doubt it honestly

[frosty herald]

Doesnt matter

[polar nexus]

It would be totally stupid otherwise

[gray ice]

We don't know the exact form the retroactive rewards will take just yet

[frosty herald]

You get weapon xp and need to unlock blessings on a weapon

[gray ice]

They said we'd get a headstart as long time players, but not much else

[frosty herald]

A good amount of devtime is probs used to make the migration process flawless

[gray ice]

Ann why

Lmao

[glacial stratus]

mods are crashing the game. Do we know which ones?

[frosty herald]

Crossair ones

[hot jolt]

chatblock maybe for me, crossair remap having issues.

[gray ice]

I used custom crosshairs fine earlier

[hot jolt]

im runinn 110+ mods

[gray ice]

I didn't know this game had 110 mods to get

[hot jolt]

o there are way more

[gray ice]

I'll keep my 6 kek

[hot jolt]

283 mods exist.

[steel agate]

I got 0 myself but more power to y’all

You paid/got the game meanin u can do whatever u want to enjoy it

[frosty herald]

Just update your mods and it should be fine

[gray ice]

I'd have to always have at least 1, numericui too good

Need me Dodge counter

Rest is pretty meh

[hot jolt]

disconnect mod is a must.

[misty mason]

Bro wtf is this slop

[hot jolt]

loading screens are shit

[misty mason]

Revolver and an axe skin

Cmon

[quaint verge]

[ember yew]

https://tenor.com/view/vacation-vacation-time-cuba-drinks-pool-gif-15936207

FS perspective:

tho do you still need to adjust crosshair?

[spare dome]

aw hell yea

The revolver has a tiny skull on it

Boltpistol skin already

[royal vortex]

release double barrel

add paid skin

but for regular shotguns

[spare dome]

And that shield skin looks aite i dont play enough ogryn tho

[royal vortex]

i hate swedish people

[hot jolt]

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/36

[solar gorge]

the candle's flame on the barrel of the bolt pistol skin gets in the way of the ironsight

[spare dome]

good, that means the emperor guides my shot

[solar gorge]

but it's not like the regular ironsight wasn't already dogshit

[spare dome]

you only ADS that thing in flicks anyway

[solar gorge]

if you consider the fire to BE the sight it's kinda kino

[spare dome]

is that a taxe or axe skin

[royal vortex]

caxe

[solar gorge]

caxe thx god

[spare dome]

booooooooo

BOOOOOO

[solar gorge]

taxe losers stay seething

[spare dome]

i seen u

[solar gorge]

https://tenor.com/view/i-saw-what-you-deleted-half-life-gman-half-life-half-life-alyx-gif-7435374716211035969

[hot jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/plink-wide-cat-scropts-gif-27699673

[spare dome]

idk they look good from here

probs getting a couple

[solar gorge]

ogryn stay winning

good set and nice shield skin

[spare dome]

it do look nice

[frosty herald]

No pickaxe skin

[spare dome]

but i have not even 100hrs of ogryn so i could never justify it lol

[royal vortex]

its too late for me

[spare dome]

oh no

[solar gorge]

ogryn main

[spare dome]

im so sorry

[steel agate]

I still gotta wait for that ogryn faceplate to show up in the shop

[frosty herald]

We getting the voicebox

[royal vortex]

he has some real energy to him

i still can't believe like 6 months before we got the welding mask they released one where it was flipped up

[neat drum]

Ah yes, the amogus ogryn

[royal vortex]

actual scam

[frosty herald]

The gladiator set is so peak

[steel agate]

Chefs kiss for using the pick in the SS

[spare dome]

MY NAME ... IS ... uhm ... ah grut it, ima crump ur gladiators, kingman

[steel agate]

But ya that does sound like a scam

[gray ice]

That pickaxe could sunder the very earth

Jesus Christ the size

[royal vortex]

thats not even the biggest one

[gray ice]

Wut

[frosty herald]

The branx pickaxe is massive

[gray ice]

My brother in Allah.

Go solo khorne with that

[neat drum]

Wait till you see what it does to heretics

[gray ice]

It probably removes a fuckin dimension from them

[frosty herald]

The branx pickaxe imo isnt that good unless your very skilled

Lots of single target attacks and the sweep combo is tricky to get to

[neat drum]

I am indeed very skilled, I gave myself that title

[royal vortex]

branx lights with enough buffs up 3 shot crushers

its v funny

[gray ice]

It's all rock and stone?

Always has been

[frosty herald]

Pickaxes are so fun

Torment is a very good blessing

[gray ice]

I think torment would be cursing someone

[dense karma]

just push attack

[royal vortex]

soften them up + the hook special is a free 25% damage debuff on whatever u hit with the special

[gray ice]

Kek

[royal vortex]

which is sick

[neat drum]

To the bone

[gray ice]

New background

[neat drum]

A drg crossover update would go so hard

[gray ice]

I feel like I haven't been here a while how ya been anyways josho

[gray ice]

Based

[hushed knoll]

VIN ONF IRS YOY

[royal vortex]

terrible during the drought of dumb arguments

thank god for the patch

[hushed knoll]

OMG ITS YOU

[neat drum]

Beautiful

[gray ice]

Ogryn should get a helm with a comically large pixelated beard

[hot jolt]

roast my games

[gray ice]

What

[frosty herald]

Crossovers are never happening cause 40k

[neat drum]

Never say never

[hushed knoll]

I meant renaissance okg its you

[neat drum]

But yeha I highly doubt it

[hushed knoll]

VIN

[gray ice]

Harshly judged for having 76 installed

[hushed knoll]

Omg

[gray ice]

Hello stan

Nice to see your motor skills are still lacking

[sterile stone]

https://tenor.com/view/rock-and-stone-deep-rock-galactic-gif-25114877

[gray ice]

Some thing never change

[sterile stone]

New enforcer outfits out

[neat drum]

What games, I'm too busy staring at that beautiful cover

[sterile stone]

New baton skin

Bout to beat these bums to death in style

[frosty herald]

Police brutality coming up

[gray ice]

Ay send a brotha 12.50 to get fitted up

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/kurtis-stryker-striker-kurtis-striker-kurtis-stryker-gif-19415513

[hushed knoll]

I’m not a mechanic

[gray ice]

Don't I know it

[hushed knoll]

Wow you wanna Fite me

[gray ice]

Too high Lotta exertion

[sterile stone]

If I could I would

[hushed knoll]

You’re high rn?

It’s 7am

[gray ice]

Your morning is my evening

[glacial stratus]

@royal vortex what is the best pickaxe mk?

[royal vortex]

any of them

theyre all great

[hushed knoll]

Are you from Malaysia

[spare dome]

i just woke up and am getting high

[royal vortex]

slow as fk though

[hushed knoll]

I thought you were from Indiana

[spare dome]

40mg thc right down the hole

[hushed knoll]

Which hole

[gray ice]

No stan I'm in in florida

[steel agate]

Felt, ima do the same but with shake instead

[spare dome]

Oh u know

[gray ice]

You almost had it

[hushed knoll]

Oh I was close

So close 🫦

[gray ice]

Yea...

"Close"

[hushed knoll]

I knew you were in fliers akdk along

Florida all along

[steel agate]

A virtual “cheers” to you exploits

[gray ice]

You don't teach geography right?

[hushed knoll]

Expires needs more than the devils lettuce

Expires

Pesky

Exploits

[hushed knoll]

I’ll teach ur face

[royal vortex]

expires expires pesky

[gray ice]

I feel like that's a new anointment

[hushed knoll]

Hi Joshington boots

[gray ice]

As was foretold in the scrolls

[hushed knoll]

I’ll foretell ur scrolls 😠😠😠😠

Where is Josho I miss him

[gray ice]

Is a lottery ticket a scroll

[hushed knoll]

No

[gray ice]

Please foretell that

[glacial stratus]

what are the best blessings/perks?..

[hushed knoll]

[hot jolt]

lvl 3 and 4

[gray ice]

I feel like thats a ban worthy answer

[hot jolt]

ban worth question imo

[royal vortex]

wrath on the karsolas is good, wouldn't take thrust. torment/slaught/headtaker are all solid

thrust on the other 2 is good

wrath isn't really useful on the other 2

[glacial stratus]

thanks!

[royal vortex]

carapace is nice on the branx/borovian. can't go wrong with elites/maniac/flak/unyielding

karsolas is more horde clear so you can really do like flak/unarmored

[spare dome]

I'm not allowed to do more than weed anymore, I am historically untrustworthy.

But man.

Yeah you miss it sometimes.

[steel agate]

Rip, I knew a guy who couldn’t handle his alcohol so I get ya

[hot jolt]

so what drugs are in those stems

that blue one seems nice

[spare dome]

idk but we take ogryn sized doses

[hushed knoll]

Branx is the new Bronx?

[steel agate]

Ya I’d hate to figure out what would happen if a non-ogryn stabbed it anywhere but the chest

[royal vortex]

is this the title of the ogryn rendition of orange is the new black

[hushed knoll]

No

I’ve never seen that show

Too much prison

[spare dome]

not enough orange

[royal vortex]

stan couldn't handle a mixed race couple

[hushed knoll]

What

[spare dome]

although pornstache was funny to see again, the actor specifically

last time i saw him was in The Wire

[hushed knoll]

Who?

[spare dome]

Pablo Schreiber

he was Nick Sobotka in the best season of The Wire

and The Wire is the best fucking thing they ever made for television

after extreme elimination challenge

[hushed knoll]

Never seen it

[spare dome]

thats cause HBO sucks

and they refuse to rerelease the series on anything that isnt a chinese printed DVD from 2006

fuck you HBO

they dont even have it on HBO Max

its incredible

you have to pirate it and i recommend you do. MODS DONT LOOK THIS WAY

because youll get the best quality for it and HBO literally refuses to take your money for it anyway

and it truly is one of the best pieces of media ever made

youll also recognize a lot of actors

[royal vortex]

stan? no way

[spare dome]

nah u will

black panther is in this show

seriously though FUCK you HBO, you're sitting on the original negatives on film and they refuse to scan or rerelease the series above DVD quality on physical media or even on a stream site

its a fucking travesty

[drowsy steppe]

🤨

[zinc talon]

yes they explain in the mod description how to and link to something that brings it all back together

just running perspectives will remove your crosshair when you ADS but will let you stay in third person if you choose to, so essentially aiming down the sight makes you not able to aim

but the mod will let you auto switch to first person when you ADS if youwant, or you can get the crosshair to stay where it is when you ADS and remain in third person

part of the learning curve, though, is that the crosshair is not a flat UI element

it actually tracks in three dimentions to show you exactly what you're aiming at, you just can't tell because you're in first person and depth perception is impossible

in third person, though, the crosshair will seem to wiggle a little bit because your aim is moving off the target and onto the terrain behind them

this can help and hinder both, cuz you can tell exactly when you're aiming on them

but can also seem to jostle your aiming if you're unfamiliar with it

you also have to learn how to aim your weapon swing arcs in third person all over again

because you're not relying on the muscle memory of seeing your weapon swing right in front of you

you have to know where the swing arc is going

and on a few weapons, the swing arc as seen in third person doesn't line up perfectly with the first person swing arc on where the weapon is going next

all of this is easily overcome with a little time in the seat

and being able to see what's directly at your feet and to your left/right without having to move your vision in first person to see it makes your situational awareness unparalleled

our eyes have a much larger field of vision than a first person game can give to us

because our displays are so much s maller relative to our peripheral vision

upping your field of view to match the human eye makes the game look like you're seeing things through a fishbowl

so this, to me at least, helps rectify that

you can see someone standing right next to you without having to move your field of view from facing forward

plus the visual aesthetic of seeing your character just clobber something is like free therapy

[elfin steppe]

eh

[zinc talon]

honestly I think that one would've been a god tier halloween release

[spare dome]

Enforcer? I hardly know her

[opal summit]

quick question about he perect strike blessing changes: The notes say 7.5% crit chance, while the blessing says damage. Did anyone test which is the case? Because if it's just crit damage then this is pretty much a nothingburger of a change

[clear knot]

new shop refesh looks nice

[drowsy steppe]

its 7.5% crit damage

[opal summit]

Meh. Thanks. Another useless change.

[spare dome]

... would you have preferred damage?

[opal summit]

crit damage is in so far useless that it is only increasing the added crit damage. if you do 100 damage and a crit is 130. 10% crit damage increase would be 10% of 30 = 3 extra damage

[sterile stone]

The enforcer shield is baller

[opal summit]

I'd rather have had the flat crit bonus tbh.

[spare dome]

yea so a blessing with 7.5% extra crit chance and also extra cleave is good lol

im not a perfect strike fan but its strictly a buff and a bonus

[opal summit]

Well I knew getting free flat 7.5% crit chance sounded too good to be true. Shame

[clear knot]

trying to look at cosmetics in the store crashes my game and its annoying

[opal summit]

It's the universe telling you not to buy overpriced cosmetics

[clear knot]

thas crazy

is the universe telling you to tell me not to as well

[drowsy steppe]

this has been long known

[opal summit]

Idc tbh

[fossil crag]

Now put this with a weapon like the combat blade or laspistol 👀

[opal summit]

heh

[clear knot]

i only use one fit really.

and its modded so

id pay for shirtless but nooooo

[ornate bone]

awooga

[clear knot]

agoowa

[ornate bone]

:3

[clear knot]

[elfin steppe]

what's the point of this change anyway

better wait for itemization, but I guess it will take another four months.

[heady sinew]

The working theory is they are adding these bonuses so they can make multiple tiers in the itemisation patch

No more single tier blessings

[elfin steppe]

are you gonna be able to change modifiers?

[drowsy steppe]

I saw an image and I think it was implied in the blog. Or stated that you can modify modifiers

[zinc talon]

god this thing makes me want to go brush my teeth right now

[drowsy steppe]

Wtf is that

[zinc talon]

my binkie

[heady sinew]

It's certainly implied in the blog

[drifting prawn]

Literally me when coffee exists

[zinc talon]

sarge finally realized if I don't have something like this in my mouth, I can open it and say things

the surgery was mandatory

[heady sinew]

And the duelling sword they showcased has a total modifier score of 384

[elfin steppe]

that will save you from a lot of grinding.

[heady sinew]

Which is higher than the max we have at the moment

[drowsy steppe]

Also

Diamantine will have more uses

[heady sinew]

?

[drowsy steppe]

So probably. Diamantine would be equally sought after mats in games when the rework comes out

[zinc talon]

the stats add up to 381

[elfin steppe]

not that each modifier makes much difference, but I have this perfectionist thing

[zinc talon]

and don't start talkin that rounding error garbage

I have a 381

[heady sinew]

Prove it

[zinc talon]

empra willed me to have it

[heady sinew]

Empra blessed you sah

[drowsy steppe]

get rounded down lmaoooo

[zinc talon]

I have a couple rounded downs too yeah

we don't talk about those in polite company or at the dinner table

[elfin steppe]

now we just need re-color options

[misty nova]

Why are you laughing bro

[zinc talon]

that's just my breathing cuz of the lung implants, you get used to it after a while

I'm like vader but uncool and nerve-grating

[drowsy steppe]

ok but seriously tho, that fuckin rebreather jammed to your teeth cosmetic

not only it looks ugly thats fucking horrifying

[clear knot]

its body horror and while i will NOT be wearing it. its dope

[royal vortex]

they still havent released the ogryn bikini cosmetic

game is shit

[clear knot]

take THAT binky

[fickle aspen]

Is the bleed on the new bolt pistol actually helpful on knife zealot

[clear knot]

fembitch

sorry

[zinc talon]

no no you assumed correctly

[clear knot]

no

[zinc talon]

I think

[clear knot]

lmao

[fickle aspen]

Then what would be the best blessings for it?

[clear knot]

fro knife zel or bolter

[zinc talon]

when I get a decent blessing list I'm going with +damage on staggered enemies

[fickle aspen]

The stagger one+DMG on stagger?

[zinc talon]

and rounds that almost hit but miss still detonate

[drowsy steppe]

deadly accurate and surgical

[fickle aspen]

Thinking of using it on my knife zealot

But feels like I'll still have issues with masses of armor

[clear knot]

its not really meant to tear through carapace or groups or flak afaict

[fickle aspen]

Then is there any ranged weapon that rounds off knife zealot build?

Been using the ag shotgun

[clear knot]

revolver is bis for general gameplay

imo its pretty good for rushing

or w/e tf ur doing

its revolver

[zinc talon]

these two, had to find it

I dislike the revolver

I get why people like it but I don't mesh with it at all

besides, it's 40k not the fuckin showdown at the saloon

I'm a bolter/flamer simp

[ornate bone]

i usually forget its a 40k game

[clear knot]

its why i play it tbh

[ornate bone]

i play cos its fun, i couldnt care less about 40k

[clear knot]

the gameplay is amaizng, the crafting is ass but its gettign fixed. it has a solid future,

i love bolter pistols

so i am very happy

speaking of

[spare dome]

awye

show it to swagger, make him jelly

[clear knot]

he cry

[spare dome]

swagger more like blubber

[royal vortex]

swagger is not a him, that creature is an it

i violently assault the beast in human clothing every opportunity i get

[spare dome]

josho thats a mirror

[royal vortex]

https://tenor.com/view/vermintide-zealot-pain-gif-25557240

[spare dome]

repent, REPEEEENT

[elfin steppe]

I still don't know what does lethal proximity do

[spare dome]

normally the bolter needs 5m of flight before the round goes boom

proximity makes it always go boom

it just guarantees CC, that's all

[slate notch]

Trash? Haven't tried new shotgun, so not sure

Perks look like crap

[elfin steppe]

ok, so all of bolt pistol's blessings are weak.

[spare dome]

thats fine, pistol is already strong

[clear knot]

ii love it ao far

wi

will use the roll i have now till update then mess with more

[fast tiger]

this sounds like a euphemism

[buoyant pewter]

They make me a happy GK

Even though it’s not a second melee slot

I use deadly accurate + surgical

[haughty haven]

I love the evis mk15

[elfin steppe]

not this one, this one feels akaward.

[haughty haven]

Like wtf even is the point of the h sword

[fleet zealot]

Gimme 5

[haughty haven]

Am I missing something? The evis 15 just feels better at everything the sword does and more

[fleet zealot]

Everything below cara and unyielding

[fleet zealot]

Heavysword can kill 4 elites per swing

And has drastically faster raw horde clear as well

[gusty orbit]

heavy 1 that deals like 1500 damage, nothing crazy, just one shotting most elites

[fast tiger]

deathblow goes brrrrr

[fleet zealot]

Evi does anti armor and anti monster but hsword still got it’s niche

[misty nova]

That's just the Evis15 being good, however 4 targets cap

[haughty haven]

Maybe I have the wrong sword

[gusty orbit]

the mk9 is the only good one

[fleet zealot]

Yea lol mk15 evi has a 4 target damage cap, DB hswords do first target damage 4 times

[fleet zealot]

All hswords are relatively the same

[elfin steppe]

they haven't fix Evis 15 's stagger issue, it was acknowledged in the forum like 3 months ago.

[fleet zealot]

They all can do the same thing

[haughty haven]

What's this?

[fleet zealot]

The only difference is the movesets

[gusty orbit]

the other one has crappy light attacks and deals way less damage than the mk9 in hordes

[elfin steppe]

yesterday i got smacked by a crusher because it couldn't stagger him.

[gusty orbit]

the heavy attack, yeah, similar

[fleet zealot]

Light attacks barely matter when you heavy for everything

Since DB

[haughty haven]

See this right here is my main issue with the one I'm using lol

Just feels weak asf for horde clear

I got deathblow 4 and rampage 3 on it

[fleet zealot]

Mk9 lights have the most cleave out of the swords, but the other swords cleave is 2x effective into flak

[elfin steppe]

The light attack always has minimal stagger power, the heavy rev can't stagger crushers immediately.

[gusty orbit]

yeah you probably have the wrong one that's better looking in my opinion, get a mk9 and feel the real power

[fleet zealot]

Swap rampage for ht4

[frosty herald]

Apperantly you get a lego star wars keychain if you spend 50 bucks for a set

[haughty haven]

I'll try it but for now the 15 has peaked my interest in zealot again

[fleet zealot]

Make sure you have flak maniac perks, and you are going for flat damage boosts in your tree

[elfin steppe]

even if they fixed it, the Evi still has several issues, the cleave cap, the slow attack speed, it's definitely not going to replace HS.

[haughty haven]

It feels a little meh for heavier elites and pawgryns but it's so fun lol

[gusty orbit]

mk15, never, way way way too slow

[fleet zealot]

I will die on this hill

[gusty orbit]

normal evis is great for it's own thing

[fleet zealot]

The hswords variants functionally do the same thing over the course of a game and it is purely playstyle preference

[languid ether]

So, Scattershot buff stays on you when you switch to melee. Question, does it apply to melee attacks or only your next ranged?

[elfin steppe]

The slow attack speed and low stagger became quite an obvious problem if you dive into Dreg gunners. Play it at high intensity Damnation, and you will know what I mean.

[gusty orbit]

getting shot in the face for 300 damage in 0.5 seconds is part of the zealot experience

[fleet zealot]

All of them get 4 elite multikills with db, all of them mulch horde for dinner, performance comes down to your build on both the weapon and talents

https://tenor.com/view/wah-gif-22922666

Alright i died on the hill back to sleep

[elfin steppe]

FS refuses to fix the stagger, so while you dive the gunners, you can't CC them. They just run off and start blasting your face. It's a hilarious and stupid experience.

like literally you can watch them run away from you and there's nothing you can do

[misty nova]

Just rev heavy them, that's all I'm going to say
So see y'all later

[gusty orbit]

yeah, and because you hit once every blue moon you can't do anything about it lmao, i remember suffering in the warren when mk15 was released, came right back to my normal eviscerators

[opal star]

what about thy wrath be swift

[gusty orbit]

i expect any respectable zealot to use it

im waiting for fatshark to strip that too of our kit

would be fun

[opal star]

surely they wouldn’t

[stone fern]

hey theres no breakpoint anymore for chastise ironhelm marty for crushers anymore right? i cant seem to be doing any damge unless its a weakpoint hit

[haughty haven]

Mine seems to stagger them just fine but against meta I'm running wrath so idk if that has anything to do with it

[opal star]

that would kneecap damn near all two handed zealot weapons

esp the thammers and eviscerators

[haughty haven]

The heavy side handed attack should one tap just about any lighter elite or maniac

[gusty orbit]

thy wrath be swift as it is im 100% convinced is "unintended" too, its version in vermintide doesn't give stagger immunity against ranged

[opal star]

I don’t think they be sending six billion gunners or whatever their VT equivalent is in that game tho

[hidden verge]

what blessing/perk are good on shock maul?

[elfin steppe]

that's not stagger bro

[opal star]

or maybe they do
idk I haven’t gotten that far

[gusty orbit]

in high difficulties? yeah pretty much like darktide, lots of enemies

[misty nova]

I mean, Punishment exists
Uninterruptible or something like that

[clear knot]

hammer does fine with gunners

youre a zel youre usually charging gunners anyway. zels can do p much anything

[elfin steppe]

u see, they barely flinch.

[gusty orbit]

only when hitting hordes or cramped stuff

[drowsy steppe]

fullbore sucks for it, switch that for Deathspitter

[opal star]

twbs is better ngl

[gusty orbit]

yeah, i remember that, pretty terrible

[elfin steppe]

This is what stagger actually looks like

[spare dome]

have you tried hitting them in the head with the other evis too

[gusty orbit]

they do the same wiggle

[spare dome]

i just 1,000% do not experience this issue and have nothing else to say lol

gunners gun, i run right in and kill them with left clicks

[solar gorge]

new map's last event was designed to destroy pubs dam

[spare dome]

maybe grievous wounds is making up that difference

maybe its full punishment stacks

[gusty orbit]

i despise more the first half

[spare dome]

whatever it is, i aint feelin it

[elfin steppe]

It's a bug. I posted this three months ago; they acknowledged it but never fixed it.

[gusty orbit]

people going separate ways and not covering the spawns is a great experience

[elfin steppe]

but what can you do, it's FS

[solar gorge]

that's even worse in finale

[haughty haven]

I couldn't get past the alley yesterday to save my soul

[misty nova]

I mean, with the combos you showed
Evis15 has 3 relentless and 1 vanguard
Evis2 has Vanguard into vanguard loop

[gusty orbit]

but in doesn't have spawns cranked to eleven, just the usual 2 elite spawns every 30 secs or so

and i've had really bad people in pubs

[solar gorge]

the obj are very far away from each others and the 360 spawns makes sure ppl who run off either die or stay stuck forever

[haughty haven]

It's really hard when there is literally a spawn every 10 feet

[gusty orbit]

true, there's like 5

[misty nova]

Fun fact, relentless is described as Wide staggering attack

[elfin steppe]

Also, the rev can't even stun lock crushers now. i don't know what they did.

[fleet zealot]

The entire map is meant to break pubs i swear

It’s like a quiz in all darktide skills excpet im taking it as a group project and my team didn’t study

But it is meant to be experimental so i can let it slide if they do more tweaks to it over the patches

[misty nova]

They buffed the threshold because of the Bulwark adjustment

[gusty orbit]

except your team is high on pot, the map is a checklist for all you DON'T do in coop games

[solar gorge]

all they have to do is play as you know

a team

in a cooperative shooter

very hard

[misty nova]

You can still open Bulwarks by rev heaving the shield lmao

[gusty orbit]

imagine playing like a team

[fleet zealot]

Yea

[solar gorge]

baffling concept for dt players

[gusty orbit]

don't worry it do be like that in every horde shooter

[solar gorge]

at least it's funny to look at the knife zealot getting cornered by a horde

and swinging his little tiny butter knife

[misty nova]

Speaking of new map, I had 3 snipers on the same place, they shot 1 after the other

It was hell

[fleet zealot]

Hey psyker and vet do you want to stop blasting away my toughness melee kills and actually focus on the dozens of shooters that are solely focused on me? No? Okay guess ill die

Yea it’s very narrow and on the rails experiment

Besides the more open events there is only 2 real spots a special can spawn, a place behind, or a place behin

[gusty orbit]

it do be like that in the area just after the magnetic shuttle

a total clown fiesta

[fleet zealot]

I cleared an auric so easily by just play stealth vet and doing the elite ranged, shooters and specials

Made it so much smoother

Doesnt help both bolt pistol and DB are terrible for ranged

[gusty orbit]

funny how double barrel one shots only and only at 8 meters

lmao

[frozen crystal]

After trying ogryn for pickaxe… I immediately went back to my psyker who takes out ranged because I am so annoyed at people atm not killing them

[haughty haven]

Okay idk what's going on here but mine for sure stuns them lol just used it last night

[oblique nexus]

Attempts to make Crushers more of a threat?

Might explain why the shock mauls can stun most units, including Ogryns, except for Crushers...

Which is a shame since it's a unit you'd REALLY want to stun.

[hoary tree]

[surreal shore]

got this

on my pskyer

should i just

get rid of it and get teh skull crusher?

[hard nexus]

swap thrust and it’d be really good

[surreal shore]

whats the minimum pen should be on this one?

[hard nexus]

70% pen is pretty solid, i don’t think it’d effect any breakpoints

[tame mirage]

DUELLING SWORD SUPREMACY

[fast tiger]

leave that shit for the space wizards

[placid fiber]

inb4 duelling sword gets omega nerfed like the autopistol x.x

[fast tiger]

my weapons have TEETH

[fast tiger]

the irony that it would take way more work than gutting the autopistol because all they had to do was nerf pinning fire lol

[placid fiber]

Tru lol

[gusty orbit]

not only it got nerfed, but it didn't get good numbers with the class rework and much more hp of enemies lol

[placid fiber]

Yeah it legit only has 1 specific niche use on my one build

[woeful pecan]

Been that way since Path of Redemption

"Increased stagger threshold for Crushers, Bulwarks, Plague Ogryns and Chaos Spawns."

[gusty orbit]

i miss the 100% damage 😦

[fast tiger]

autopistol didn’t do anything wrong

they need to bring it up to compensate for the PF stats

autopistol died for the bolters sins

[placid fiber]

^

[gusty orbit]

give it 300 damage per shot and 1000 ammo

easy

[placid fiber]

lol

[obtuse stirrup]

How sad is the invocation of death change?

[fast tiger]

Ill settle on 1000 damage per shot and 1,000,000 ammo

[placid fiber]

I mean it was expected at some point

[hard nexus]

it’s weird, the original evis can stagger them, but the new one can’t

[fast tiger]

it’s very significant

[misty nova]

Evis15 named Princess

[obtuse stirrup]

Is it still even decent?

[inner pivot]

Pretty sad but workable.

[obtuse stirrup]

I guess for stuff like combat blade it's barely a change

[gusty orbit]

lol, nah autopistol was also way overused, and enemies were way easier to kill, it could kill horde chaff in 1 shot iirc

[obtuse stirrup]

But it murders heavy swords maybe

[misty nova]

Yeah, attack speed instead of cleave

Prime knife hours

[obtuse stirrup]

I wanted an excuse to go martyrdom heavy sword tbh

[neat drum]

thank you emperor, very cool

[gusty orbit]

i hope you use fast weapons, if you use hammer like me the talent is shit now

it should've just been 1 second cd and a cooldown on the ability, not limiting the hits

[placid fiber]

Awesome damage

[oblique nexus]

Probably not intended. Since the melee weapons are both newly-added compared to the prior mentions that CAN stun them, it may be that they're using somewhat outdated code as their basis... Similarly to the whole issue with the slowdown on the Crusher's empowering.

[neat drum]

yeha cant wait to tickle the heretics till they die of laughter

[misty nova]

The excuse now is that Perfect Strike grants crit chance (although not needed on the Hsword)

[fast tiger]

I’m kinda under the impression the pf nerf was meant to affect both but bolter ended up far more tightly tuned than the autopistol after the nerf

[fast tiger]

cool backscratcher!

[hard nexus]

which axe is the best again

[drowsy steppe]

rannick just told me to cope

[hard nexus]

i can’t rember

[elfin steppe]

Imagine you use rev and you are the only one who got stun locked

[drowsy steppe]

combat axe

[hard nexus]

yah which one

[drowsy steppe]

rashad

[oblique nexus]

How it feels to use the shock maul on a Crusher

[elfin steppe]

never used it

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/sadcat-gif-25701972

[left iron]

Kickback gaming @quaint verge

[placid fiber]

So do you hulp people, now, ice?

[quaint verge]

[left iron]

Help? Nah

[placid fiber]

Not help

Hulp

[left iron]

Whats hulp

oh

I am dumb

[sterile stone]

Go out of my way to save teammates

Go down

[placid fiber]

I was being stupid as well

[sterile stone]

Every fire throwing enemy hard focuses me

[placid fiber]

[sterile stone]

Pain

[oblique nexus]

Its special attack jabs it forward like an oversized tazer. Stuns almost all units in the game and applies a zappy DoT.
Feels similar to how the Psyker's bio-lightning works when stunning.

Problem is it won't stun Ogryn Crushers. Doesn't stun most big-bad bosses or monstrousities either, but that's to be expected.

Stuns all other Ogryn units and regular-sized enemies tho'. Be wary versus Ragers, because even tho' it can stun one in an instant, if you jab one and others are nearby you'll get your ass shreded by their pals. You can dodge to cancel the zapping, but this also means releasing the stunned Rager sooner and reducing the damage of the shock and DoT.

BTW, the shock stacks, but only up to a certain value at which point it's capped out.
Can only really sustain it when it starts to decay, as otherwise you're only benefiting from the direct damage of the shock attack itself... So typically it'd be better to whack them with normal attacks after stunning them, rather than jabbing to shock back to back.

[fast tiger]

I’m the anchor of my team 😎 anchors don’t pick things up 😎 they get picked up 😎

[hard nexus]

you keep everyone in one place and not progressing lmfao

[woeful pecan]

Yeah, I noticed it when I got pulped a couple times in a row by crushers that should've been stunned.

[left iron]

I asked the question as i read what you said, and looked at my name

[quaint verge]

[fast tiger]

only if you don’t carry me 😎

[placid fiber]

Exactly, hulp is pluh spelled backwards

[misty nova]

Me when I accidentally go past a point of no return

[placid fiber]

[left iron]

I have been enlightened

[placid fiber]

Oh God... now I am enlightening people...?

Scary

[oblique nexus]

At least you can quickly oneshot them via mid-sawwing Zealot-rushing.
Dodge, chain their torso, rush... Ded.

Can't do jack shit with the shock mauls to 'em, which is a shame since the things appear to have a decent Carapace penetration value.
I believe you could do some good work with a crit' build, maybe? Sneaky stealth shock maul? Maybe the left-side tree for crit' spam?

[hard nexus]

you’re just a skill check for everyone else

keeps everyone else humble and aware of their skills

so ur actually really helpful

[drowsy steppe]

alright time to try out scattershot on db

[oblique nexus]

I heard you could get near-Crusher values for stagger on normal heavy swings if you use a specific blessing tho', can't recall which.

[woeful pecan]

Yeah, I just relied on the rev to stop them from smashing me. It was an easy enough adjustment, but there was some confusion on my part before I tested it

[oblique nexus]

The logic of "you can't move if you're dead" in action.

Because the ultimate 'CC' is a permanent one.

[surreal shore]

Het ehm

What's the build on

Shocky mauls

Other than skull crusher ?

[left iron]

I need to make a new character so i can get man-stopper for the funny definitely-not-a-kickback shotty

[drowsy steppe]

saul is skullcrusher and entropic/high voltage/thrust

[surreal shore]

Oh okay

[oblique nexus]

Crusher Indignatus is a power maul, a force weapon.
The shock mauls are like the child of a Thunder hammer and a Crusher Indignatus, albeit one-handed.

As for builds

The blessings on shock mauls are pretty neat and unique

Many affect/involve the shock itself.

I think it can also get some stagger-related stuff, similar to the Crusher?

I've yet to acquire most of 'em, frankly, so I only know what I've seen others roll thus far.

So far as I can tell, they're semi-crit weapons...

More for spam than stealth, tho' I suspect both build trees would work in some capacity.

[compact sinew]

I still can't get over the stagger nerf on zealot, I kinda understand some other changes, like the chastice the wicked

but man

feels sad

XD

[oblique nexus]

Far left tree for crit+ or stealth for big crits on the backstabs.

Or you can focus on their Crusher-like normal strikes?

Go middle tree or even generalist rather than diving deep down on the trees.

Stack dat stagger with a wide distribution on the tree.

[oblique nexus]

Yeah, kinda shit.

[compact sinew]

Yup, made me kinda just go back to Ogryn boyo, as I mainly played zealot for the stagger potential.

[oblique nexus]

Probably an attempt to make other classes stand out moar.
Psyker stunlock lightning gonna stunlock.

Only fair because glass-cannon, Zealot OP waaaah

[compact sinew]

Yep, but at least in my opinion, I never felt like Zealot was that great in general.

Some builds, yes... but not that many.

[oblique nexus]

It really ain't, but folks see a handful of Zealots kick ass and assume it's because of the class

[compact sinew]

Just like a fun melee character to stagger his way out of pain, now it's just kinda worse ogryn :DDD

[oblique nexus]

Bros do not comprehend the difference between skill floor and skill ceiling.

[compact sinew]

Oh... Well...

I was about to say, you shouldn't build the game around the youtube cocaine addicts.

Build it around the majority, because that's where you get the money from 😄

[oblique nexus]

Meanwhile on FFXIV Online's endgame raids...

"Let's build the bosses around the most cracked minmax rotations and teams."

[compact sinew]

XD

[oblique nexus]

It's truly the worst.

[compact sinew]

Sadly it feels like last 2 patches in Darktide did that too tho

But I dunno, I'm still being positive and hopin they'll listen... one day.

[oblique nexus]

Probably an attempt to make difficulties past 3-4 feel like the actual high-end, rather than a regular run.

[compact sinew]

I literally don't enjoy zealot much now, which I hate, because I really liked zealot before.

[compact sinew]

Every difficulty is high-end with the "right" people XD

And I don't really have friends to play with, so ever heresy and above is a struggle for life.

[oblique nexus]

Yeah, but most folks typically end up grinding on 4-5 after they get the hang of things and decent gear.
Some even go for the glowy difficulty if they're a bit cracked and sweaty.

Personally, I enjoy casually grinding difficulty 4.

Only rarely get boned by idiot squadmates or an AI director that wants us dead with no hope of survival.

[compact sinew]

I agree, but still, I have zero clue why they changed this specifically around zealot.

And yea same, I enjoy just casual diff 4 the most ❤️

[compact sinew]

OH THAT HAPPENS A LOT THO XDDD AT LEAST TO ME

If not the teammates, it's Mr. Director who sends like 8 boomers in a span of 8 seconds.

[oblique nexus]

Armies of Ragers with a Trapper hiding behind two Shield ogryn...

[compact sinew]

That also is fun.

[oblique nexus]

And a gas-bomber in far back behind a horde.

[compact sinew]

XDDD

I literally see it

[oblique nexus]

Or like, the one case where I had 16 Crushers appear in the middle of a small room we were in whilst holding back a horde.

Literally appeared right on top of us, between us.

Half the team insta-died.

The rest got pinned into a corner and flattened.

We literally could not move, because we collide with enemies...

But they seemed fine phasing through one another.

A literal walking wall of death.

[gusty orbit]

normal damnation tends to be a shitshow, auric is the place to really learn stuff, well not right now because auric pubs are a mess and the map doesn't help at all

[fast tiger]

the new map sucks on auric 5

good god

teammates always split up for no reason and get clobbered or ignore objectives during which spawn infinite hordes

[compact sinew]

That doesn't sound like fun XD

[surreal shore]

Huh

So shock mauls got low damage

On unyielding enemies ?

[gusty orbit]

I'm convinced the spawns in the first event are cranked and shouldn't be like that, literal non-stop horde from 6 spawns or so

[compact sinew]

I gotta agree, but sometimes even auric can get needlessly hard.

But I like auric 4 a lot

[fast tiger]

it’s crazy

it’s exacerbated by no significant cover

[clear knot]

i love it personally

its a pretty fun event

[gusty orbit]

i think there's actually no cover, maybe the part with the cells or whatever, but gunners still shoot over that

[fast tiger]

it’s just the gulf of difficulty between doing it with a good group and bad group is wiiiiiiide

[gusty orbit]

this is like the first event of the chasm logistratum but what if there were twice as many spawns and nothing to break line of sight

[fast tiger]

Seems like it also spawns far more elites

[gusty orbit]

5-6 elites per spawn rather than the usual 2-3

[neat drum]

ok, after that embarrassing chainsword form earlier, emperor just gave me this, kinda pog i think

[vestal pine]

modifier is perf

but idk about other

[fast tiger]

i mean if you manage to get thrust 4 you’re set

otherwise it’s kinda bricked

[haughty haven]

I wanted to complain about this too but was afraid to lol

[clear knot]

pray you get thrust 4

[fast tiger]

In this discord? good

good instincts

[bold pumice]

I'm struggling on Shocking Stuff penance. Any tips?

[fleet zealot]

Flamer or heavysword or chsword

[bold pumice]

been stuck at 39 forever

[dark zealot]

hello chat, hows the update going for us?

[shrewd imp]

get a person to help you

and do it ona repair mission

[dark zealot]

it sounds like they huffed helium

[fleet fractal]

is that like a little tourist booklet on good phrases to know while you're visiting a foreign country strapped to the helmet?

[dark zealot]

meanwhile the veterans helmet

and the power maul skin...

[stone fern]

"Dev note: “We wanted to adjust the broad capability of the flamer to deal with pretty much all targets, specifically when combined with the Zealots ability Chastise the Wicked that grants armor penetration after use."

flamer buffs when?

[fast tiger]

says “don’t give peace sign with palm facing toward you to mutants”

[vestal pine]

i mean

its still good

just not on crushers anymore

[nimble fiber]

[median steeple]

Boogie

[stone fern]

bUt ThEy SAid "chastise interaction"

now that thats gone they dont have an argument anymore

[dark zealot]

so are we helldivers now?

[north sedge]

What argument, it's still good

[fast tiger]

considering helldivers is like a knockoff mashup of starship troopers, terminator and 40k, i think it’d be more appropriate to ask if helldivers are the guard now

[fleet zealot]

What argument lol

[fleet zealot]

More like the uhh elite guard

[stone fern]

THE ARGUMENT

[fast tiger]

Super Guard

[dark zealot]

am i missing something here?

[vestal pine]

cloth different color.

[fast tiger]

different skirts

[fleet zealot]

It was originally not intended, it was then made into a core feature then removed for being op

[stone fern]

ones a bit less shiney in game

[fleet zealot]

Idk what else you want

[vestal pine]

zealot being deleted

[fleet zealot]

One is less shiny and also one has a different skirt

[fleet zealot]

True

[stone fern]

add weapon/class bans to lobbies

[fast tiger]

bannin all psykers as is my zealot duty

[dark zealot]

ahh so this is more golden and the cloth is a flat red

[median steeple]

Helldivers are Elysian or harakonen if their training was 20mins long and they were all kids

[buoyant pewter]

I run the witch fingers as my trinket to show I don’t fw that

[median steeple]

Remember guard regiments are the elite PDF are the bog standard

[buoyant pewter]

Cuttin off witch hands

[fast tiger]

they’re so dangly

[dark zealot]

where as this is a pattern and the halo thing is not as gold

[fast tiger]

i fw that trinket

[buoyant pewter]

They really are it’s kinda wild

[nimble fiber]

anybody have a clue when the next the boys episode drops?

[fleet zealot]

Yea the newest scheme was from the darktide board game crossover, they were based on the generic tabletop model even more than the old one

[median steeple]

It just did? Didn't it

[nimble fiber]

oh really? god damn

[vestal pine]

its cool

[fast tiger]

“harokonen” is this a straight dune rip off

god i love 40k

[quasi marsh]

i noticed

in general

[vestal pine]

except our ogryn doesnt look like anything for boardgame ogryn

[quasi marsh]

it does not stop spawning elites

[stone fern]

its already out on some places

[quasi marsh]

it spawns them similarly to specialists

idk if its just this map

i only been playing it since the patch

or if they do that on other maps now too

[vestal pine]

other maps are affected i think

but the new map

is bonkers

[stone fern]

if i link the place here im sure a warden would break my knees tho

[median steeple]

Harakoni warhawks

[vestal pine]

theres like spawnpoints everywhere

[quasi marsh]

honestly

ppl need to stop going right

at the first fork

[nimble fiber]

definitely

[quasi marsh]

with th drop down

it spawns a boss almost always right there

adn if its a bon it is a wipe

lmao

like 90% of the time

[nimble fiber]

YESSIR aight imma go watch it now

[fleet zealot]

The person kiting it just needs to not be a complete moron

[fast tiger]

are those little jump thrusters like the dune harkonen have

[median steeple]

No

[fast tiger]

too difficult i’m gonna get gobbled for the god emperor

[vestal pine]

they are sidegrade elysians

[median steeple]

Shut up about the frauds that are elysians

https://tenor.com/view/dr-manhattan-gif-18899941

Stupid little box hats fr

[vestal pine]

they cute

[dark zealot]

the ogryn looks like the old and weird proportions (even for warhammer) space marines

so besides the drip, what else is interesting? balance changes or the new guns?

[fleet zealot]

Idk that was a while ago

[fast tiger]

recon lasguns got buffed into usability and the bistol is fun but not like, busted

shock maul is solid by all reports and the db is a solid power fantasy

[median steeple]

Sawd off is fun

[fleet zealot]

That slop drop was just for the darktide board game, GW used the most generic models for it so fatshark released sets that matched

[placid fiber]

Yes

[fast tiger]

pick axes are uhhhhhh pick axes

[placid fiber]

^

[fleet zealot]

Zealot is dead

[placid fiber]

See? Such smort thoughts

[median steeple]

God the old ass ogryn model is hilariously bad

[placid fiber]

cough ur mom is dead COUGH

[fleet zealot]

Literally no reason to play zealot now /joke

[placid fiber]

[fleet zealot]

She isn’t

[north sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/wwe-the-undertaker-what-annoying-scared-gif-5444484

[placid fiber]

Mine isn't either, she is in her 70's tho

I'm only 30 <.<

[fleet zealot]

They removed fotf giga boosting ranged weapons and limited crit cdr to once per swing

[fast tiger]

damn u got old mom

[placid fiber]

No shit lol

[fast tiger]

my mom is like 46 and i’m 29

[fleet zealot]

Oh and the actual biggest nerf, punishment being nerfed from 150% stagger at 5 stacks to 25% at 5 stacks

[placid fiber]

She was in her 40's when she had me lol

[stone fern]

its so over i have to change flak to carap on my ironhelm hammer

[fleet zealot]

Absolutely smacked my chainaxe build

[fast tiger]

what size autism did she give u

[placid fiber]

Idk, I do hate being in crowds for sure... but I had adhd as my worst condition x.x

[vestal pine]

recommend a name for her

[fleet zealot]

I can’t brainlessly stunlock mauler packs with my mk4 chaxe anymore

[placid fiber]

Astel

[dark zealot]

power maul/crusher no longer do the funny?

[fast tiger]

why even play darktide then tbh

[nimble fiber]

shrek

[placid fiber]

^

[fast tiger]

sherek

[placid fiber]

Shrek Herdroids

[vestal pine]

cute name.

[fleet zealot]

Crusher can

[placid fiber]

I've been watching a lot of elden ring x.x

[buoyant pewter]

Especially since flamer (exploit) no longer allows it to be good at all (universally godly)

[fast tiger]

did you guys know if you say “big hot pot of pasta” out loud in a funny voice it sounds like jabba the hut

[dark zealot]

I loved using the crusher and just bonking things with stupid stagger while actually not really killing them, ya know how in killing floor 2 the pyro guy just wastes the teams time by crowd controlling but not actually killing? like that

[vestal pine]

space dragonfly with a decently cute name and not so decently cute backstory

[fast tiger]

https://tenor.com/view/themoreyouknow-star-rainbowstreak-nbc-gif-4884642

[buoyant pewter]

I love my friend but omg he’s talking about zealot like it’s total garbage now that the exploit isn’t there anymore, and some of the other things were tweaked

[vestal pine]

pyro killed everything with shotgun groundfire wdym

[north sedge]

Crusher never needed punishment for that

[placid fiber]

I mean... what better way to kick off a grim dark character? lol

[vestal pine]

kek

[buoyant pewter]

I have to keep reminding him that if you gotta rely on an exploit then it’s not a very good build

[vestal pine]

Astelle

[placid fiber]

Such a cute name had to murder her own family to survive

[dark zealot]

i mean anything that relied on the fire dot that made hitting head a pain, the not dot guns were good

[vestal pine]

it wasnt even an exploit

smh

[placid fiber]

I knew I was spelling it wrong x.x

[misty nova]

Tf you exploit

[dark zealot]

but anyone using a weapon that relied on actually burning them was just trolling the team

[vestal pine]

idk if thats the actual spelling

[placid fiber]

That is I think

iirc

[buoyant pewter]

It wasn’t?

I didn’t think it was intended.

[vestal pine]

nope astel is correct

[misty nova]

It was intentional, but they decided that it wasn't intentional no more and removed

[placid fiber]

I think both are x.x

[buoyant pewter]

People were talking about it like it was an exploit.

[placid fiber]

How tf do I know shit? That's illegal!

https://tenor.com/view/killer-dog-gif-4951401

[dark zealot]

they are acting like it was so?

[minor sage]

Sounds like hes garbage

[fast tiger]

yeah someone was making a really specific argument that needed it to be an exploit for the thrust of the argument

[minor sage]

If hes reliant on bugs to be strong

[vestal pine]

my dog eats lettuce the gif

[dark zealot]

shotgun numbers are funny

[fast tiger]

they always knew it worked on ranged

[placid fiber]

@fast tiger btw have you seen my greatest creation? :3

[buoyant pewter]

He’s actually really good at the game but he gets mad over nerfs

As people do

He’s def better than I am

[fast tiger]

awwww look at the little maniac

[buoyant pewter]

Ahhh

Tbf the nerfs don’t really change what I do much

Bistol is good without it, and it still benefits my evi15

[fast tiger]

if you weren’t already leveraging it as a weird counterintuitive mechanic it shouldn’t change your playstyle much

afaik the change actually buffed it for melee

now it’s 100% rending instead of armor reduction

[buoyant pewter]

I’m mostly a melee guy anyway

Bistol for anything evi15 doesn’t reach

[placid fiber]

I mean I expected the change sooner or later, tbh

[buoyant pewter]

Honestly with the way it worked it felt like it wasn’t intended

[placid fiber]

Even tho they said it was intentional at one point

[fast tiger]

ya i mean tbh it didn’t really make sense conceptually or fit the class identity

[buoyant pewter]

Seemed kinda out of place

[buoyant pewter]

Right

[regal sorrel]

I haven't played since the carnival
Whitch of the new maces should I get?

[dark zealot]

maybe our meaning of intentional doesnt match lol

[regal sorrel]

Or should I get the new guns?

[placid fiber]

Yes

[placid fiber]

Also yes

[regal sorrel]

I only hace enough for one unfortunately

[placid fiber]

Do you wanna play doom?

[fast tiger]

indi 3 apparently

[placid fiber]

If you wanna play doom, db shotgun

[buoyant pewter]

I mean what do you want more tbh

[placid fiber]

If you wanna zap enemies: shock maul

[buoyant pewter]

Cuz all have their use

[placid fiber]

Do you want to break your wrist? bolt pistol

[buoyant pewter]

If you wanna feel like a total thug bistol

[regal sorrel]

I like doing lots of damage to single enemy's

[fast tiger]

i like the bistol on vet but without suppression immunity it’s hard to counter fire against gunners

[buoyant pewter]

I’d say bistol or db

[placid fiber]

^

[buoyant pewter]

Shock mauls aren’t exactly dmg king from what I’ve seen, but very good utility

[regal sorrel]

Db?

[dark zealot]

i want to bonk crowd control but have a funny doom stick that just murders whatever its pointed at

[buoyant pewter]

Assault sg

[regal sorrel]

Ah

[buoyant pewter]

Double barrel

[placid fiber]

double barreled shotgun

[buoyant pewter]

If you run db run n gun you are actually playing doom

[regal sorrel]

I'll go with dB then
Got a chain axe so it'll work I think?

[placid fiber]

Probably

The worst that'll happen is you will fail and die

[dark zealot]

what blessings for the shotgun though?

[buoyant pewter]

^

[dark zealot]

man the game hates me

[buoyant pewter]

I’ve heard most ppl going for both barrels / reload blessings.

I’d probably take run n gun for kicks tho

[regal sorrel]

Are these good stats? I have completely forgot hot this works

[placid fiber]

Not bad

That looks almost ideal

[vestal pine]

HV+SC Saul would like to have a word with you

[dark zealot]

well i need to farm blessings for this anyway

[placid fiber]

hydro vent + starcraft saul...?

[regal sorrel]

And just got scattershot3 on it

[buoyant pewter]

I haven’t seen it anyway, haha.

[frosty herald]

Reload speed and mobility are dump for the new shotgun

[dark zealot]

well i am a lucky guy arent I

time to zoom

[regal sorrel]

What perks should I try for the shotgun?

[placid fiber]

Probably flakiac

flak and maniac

[frosty herald]

Both barrels is arguably its best blessing

[dark zealot]

what does that do?

[placid fiber]

Is it flakiac for the perks?

[buoyant pewter]

Very fun very fun

[frosty herald]

Increases reload speed when killing an enemy with the alt fire