zealot-class

[fleet zealot]

Yes so balanced

[cerulean moth]

thats the type of talent you have to centre the whole build around to make work

[fleet zealot]

U were using a massively overtuned build and then it got nerfed and it’s still strong

[hidden vessel]

Powersword still p good tho

[cerulean moth]

Shhh

don't mention that thing here

[merry flume]

people who play dumb meme builds are surviving

[spare talon]

im not happy its gone but 14 procs of 1.5s cooldown reductions in one swing is fucking overpowered even i cant deny that and every build i run is crit cdr

[proud scroll]

I was using CDR to enable me running movement speed perks and worse weapons to make playing fun for me

[cerulean moth]

it brings back memories

[fleet zealot]

It’s like people whining about the survivalist nerf or the power cycler no longer having 7 empowered swings at t4

[cerulean moth]

Darcy related memories

ptsd

[merry flume]

if it's gonna be one target just make it 3 seconds

[cerulean moth]

urge to kill...rising...

[ember yew]

There's a lot of newbies who relied on constant chastise spam to stay alive and now that's relationship ended, for me it's fine as long as you can maintain permanent 20% attackspeed buff

[fleet zealot]

The biggest post launch review bomb this game had was the power cycler nerf

[hidden vessel]

I still hatr the survivalist change even tho don't touch Veteran but

[proud scroll]

I have 1,000 hours of CDR lol. Capping it at 1 is the opposite lol

[ember yew]

what was nerfed tho, i dont remember

[merry flume]

1000 hours of baby mode, time for the real thing

[spare talon]

in regards to pc, that doesnt fundamentally change the build
for evis builds, it basically completely removes it entirely with how slow they actually swing

[fair ocean]

would doing the Just a flesh wound penance with more than 2 real players be better

[ember yew]

from 4 hits to 2?

[hidden vessel]

Still feel like nerfing survivalist was a mistake. They genuinely should have buffed the other 2 to feel useful

[fleet zealot]

I dont think the game should be balanced around newbs

[ornate bone]

Here gamers, a demonstration of new HORRIFYING issues https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/i9qWJAAiYf_MdEWIu/d1337VfLZFMK?invite=cr-MSxTWUYsMTkwNTkwNTA4LA

[cerulean moth]

Survivalist is just too good i swear

[merry flume]

yes, anything with more people is better

[cerulean moth]

Id prefer they replace it

cause its either too weak or too strong

[fleet zealot]

Powersword swings became 1/2/3 (base then pc 3 and 4) was 3/5/7 swings

[fair ocean]

ah, that is what we lack

[final forge]

just martydom, gosh i love that build

[ember yew]

deserved

[cerulean moth]

Martry pilled

[ember yew]

still too strong though

[proud scroll]

lol, it’s not baby mode, I can play without it. But it let me run fast and swing fast lol. It was fun. It let me use a thunder hammer and run fast, was just fun. Switching it to 1 is wayyyyy overtuned

[final forge]

martydome with invocation mk15 you'll be missed, now just marty mk 15

[fleet zealot]

7 empowered swings

[cerulean moth]

Anyone else in this chat based and Marty pilled?

[fleet zealot]

Im always marty pilled

[still quartz]

Nah

[cerulean moth]

MY MAN

[still quartz]

I'm on that Blazing Piety shit

[cerulean moth]

https://tenor.com/yqPj.gif

[merry flume]

anyone try a shock maul marty build yet

very funny

[cerulean moth]

i did

its fun

[ornate bone]

@spare talon I think it was you who said something about the bolter pistol being weirdly easy to miss with?

[cerulean moth]

marty makes any build funny tbh

[merry flume]

blender mode

[fleet zealot]

Hot take i actually believe shit like crit hammer shouldn’t be good

[ornate bone]

Check the wacky-ass crosshair on the video

[proud scroll]

I been running momentum with CDR for run fast for ages, sad I can’t anymore but oh well

[fleet zealot]

It just abused a mechanic

[ornate bone]

It just yoinks your aim to Disneyland or something

[spare talon]

plus ive shot point blank at a trapper 3 times and missed all of them with the crosshair on their head
i saw the video

[proud scroll]

It wasn’t good lol, it was playable tho and I ran fast

[open pollen]

So did they change Auric or has the Director just been cranky as of late?

Feels a lot denser, which I like.

[ornate bone]

lmao lol skill issue

[cerulean moth]

IM NOT THE ONLY ONE

[merry flume]

its pretty funny that i misunderstood the bolt pistol's proximity mod because it's weirdly worded

[cerulean moth]

ITS ASS TO AIM

[ember yew]

i feel like there's more trash in hordes, but not by much

[fleet zealot]

Me and the crusher sharing an intimate moment (he is smited and i’m being stunlocked by a dozen scab stalkers

[cerulean moth]

i have the same issue with normal bolter but im sure pistole is worse

[proud scroll]

This change just makes knife the de facto crit weapon, it was nice to use other weapons with a crit build

[spare talon]

idk if its just the nerfs hitting
but it seems like every patch, the director just fucking wants to rip your nuts off

[merry flume]

they give you a perk with a description that assumes you know how boltguns work with the rounds needing to be primed

[fleet zealot]

Worse players, and on new map it’s very close quarters/funneled hallways

[open pollen]

Thats kinda hot

[open pollen]

I run with a crew. Maybe we're just rusty

[fleet zealot]

Any weapon with good finesse values is fine

[spare talon]

yeah sadly
dont get me wrong i love knife
but i also like dclaw
but im not sure if i can justify running a piety build with it anymore

[merry flume]

guys can i tell you a secret

[cerulean moth]

is it victorias secret?

[final forge]

the db shotty is sorta fun on new map cus of close spaces, but needs more oomf

[cerulean moth]

No?

[open pollen]

But we had to like, communicate and strategize and bring out things with High CC. Crazy times.

[merry flume]

i made like 3 seperate teams wipe on the new map by shooting the barrels

[cerulean moth]

then FUCK off

ban them

Mods ban them

[hidden vessel]

Bomb them

[ornate bone]

I'm not really enjoying the way the game's meta is shaping to me because more and more I find reasons to not use the holy weapons

[visual stream]

whoever made this obnoxious ratio of shooters on smelter mission loses testicle privileges

[cerulean moth]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1053823148048527440/1231132552987676692/galvanize_thyselves.mp4?ex=667db249&is=667c60c9&hm=d2da17da77b14b33271eb84bc27aa78ca478621d0924561c58b81d85016e1020&

[proud scroll]

Agreed, if I’m capped at 1 cleave don’t matter, swinging faster is more CDR : ( I’ll miss my CDR hammer build

[fleet zealot]

I swear no one wants to be on shooter duty

[spare talon]

i mean any weapon with good finesse values can just run scourge and duellist and then do anything else, most have blessings that give crit and already are ideal on it
which is likely what im doing with dclaw

[cerulean moth]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/623843449183010826/1238783938495778916/Goofy_dog.mp4?ex=667dd8b2&is=667c8732&hm=2bc9eebf57fe7862b3dcc8c034062424de546ffb2811d2e3c028a80d90b64e34&

[open pollen]

I feel like I might build piety knife and hammer momentum instead of the other way around.

[visual stream]

I am happy to deal with them but when they all aggro me at the same time

[hidden vessel]

The meta just shifted more to knife

[fleet zealot]

I’ve gotten absolutely swiss’d by scab stalkers today

[visual stream]

Exhilarating takedown can only do so much XD

[cerulean moth]

However shot that bareel

yo moms a hoe

[merry flume]

its too funny (especially if they're shit talking)

[fleet zealot]

Im shocked ive actually gottej clears of the new mission

[cerulean moth]

Hardest part of new mission gotta be the first battery section

no

the beginning

with da barrels

[fleet zealot]

Nah it’s hard into hard into hard

First part

[cerulean moth]

true!

[fleet zealot]

Then a break, then the mid event is hard

Then a short break

[spare talon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1166831257078992936/strats.mp4?ex=667dc74a&is=667c75ca&hm=83c45def3496c35c5ddc24cd773ad16fd89634a801bb07fc4b58d074bee5cd6d&

[fleet zealot]

Railcart opens, back to hard

[hidden vessel]

How's new carnival without chokepoint anyway

[clear knot]

freaKAZOID

[fleet zealot]

Go through the tunnels clear the ice, slight break

[ornate bone]

• Vet's mk6 power sword is just so stupidly good to deal with crushers and stagger essentially anything in the game that I don't want to bring other melee weapons, including rashad
• Crusher lacks mobility, but the strong CC paired with the strong damage means its reduced mobility is less of an issue when you toss everything around like a ragdoll and don't have the awfully slow speed of the thunder hammer (which itself lost a lot of its appeal due to enemy density and one-shotting that one crusher being less appealing when you have 7 more to deal with)
• Dueling sword mk4 just fucks everything it pokes and still does amazing horde clear with rampage
• Knife's mobility means you can dash in and out of trouble and just sprint heavy every moron in sight almost unchallenged

[ionic spear]

how to use thammer pls, this isnt feeling very good rn

[cerulean moth]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914161923334214/1232958128128266250/igVideo2.mp4?ex=667dbefd&is=667c6d7d&hm=da4a0d79c2ee109004ba7d764570ef47a3b61660197ba611dfadc7af0fea3c3d&

[fleet zealot]

Start finale, hard again

This map is meant to fuck rejects

[cerulean moth]

Never talk to to me again

[clear knot]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-cuddle-gif-25753342

[fleet zealot]

I feel like im being tested on everything i learned so far but it’s a group project so we get fucking wrecked

[cerulean moth]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/735819155608961044/1059435426118639647/WAN_EM_CRISPY.mp4?ex=667df7e0&is=667ca660&hm=a2a8c171fa202cd349b45851e9f0ded61fcb0c37a7a48d9dcd6684674902f2e8&

[cerulean moth]

NO

DELETE IT

REMOVE ELDENR ING

[spare talon]

WANNA KISS ME?

[cerulean moth]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/735819155608961044/1149785318598381568/TheDecayConsumes.mp4?ex=667dba85&is=667c6905&hm=33c7d45e91f6beaf9538862c7d1f6ee33531e1dab33fcf47620495d44a121b54&

[spare talon]

i love these

[warm sluice]

YOOO Marais' Execurioner Sword enjoyer!?

My man!

[quasi marsh]

It's definitely a gauntlet

[cerulean moth]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/398974818046705664/1024040606739222618/No.mp4?ex=667dbe22&is=667c6ca2&hm=6e876bed0424b5a05741096a3fdceb861876f5f10f267cc201adace8a45072e4&

Ive got like

[quasi marsh]

Funnily enough the end event is prob the easiest part

[cerulean moth]

3 more I could post

[ornate bone]

I don't want to use tactical axe, I don't want to use thunder hammer, devil's claw feels like a waste of space again, combat axe is still easy but somewhat overshadowed in terms of safety, force swords are aggressively okay and the special of 2 of them just sticks you to one enemy while the rest sees you as a free meal, the chainswords and chainaxes work the same, eviscerators are big and slow and suffer the same lengthy single-target problem, and all of those aren't nearly as fast as knife spam

[fleet zealot]

End event is all on team coordination

[ornate bone]

And knife spam is king because, as it turns out, avoiding an attack is better than blocking it or eating it

[fleet zealot]

And not letting gunners/specialists build up too many numbers

[quasi marsh]

I think the part where u uh

[cerulean moth]

wtf lol

who even thinks of that

[cerulean moth]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/735819155608961044/1164315278801391747/9142139d94f04a6190cbbfe7f82b8b70003676488e95248127742fe40fa3476e_1.mp4?ex=667dda9a&is=667c891a&hm=c35eea40688aa77ea27b96c45aeb62e0f2008f2c576bcd85c449c86758fba078&

[quasi marsh]

Drop down to a med stations and gotta climb up that circular thing

[merry flume]

evis mk2 is fun and not slow

[quasi marsh]

And also tbh just the first section

Is prob the hardest parts

Spawning a bon in the first area is just fucked up

[ornate bone]

Eviscerator mk2 is like

[cerulean moth]

Oh this ones new with the pic

[ornate bone]

Aggressively existing

[fleet zealot]

Im not gojng to lable a hardest part cause we’ve wiped in every one of the difficult sections i e mentioe d

[quasi marsh]

Lol

[cerulean moth]

WHAT TO MINE

[fleet zealot]

It’s making me ahye pubbing

Bate

[cerulean moth]

MINE IT ANYWAY

[fleet zealot]

Hate

[ornate bone]

I'm all for spammy weapons, but we have spammy weapons that are insanely versatile

[merry flume]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-blow-dog-puppy-windy-gif-9487261280491311313

[ornate bone]

So when there's a spammy weapon that's not as versatile, it feels bad

[spare talon]

you better believe that this is the first thing i did when i made a pickaxe

[fleet zealot]

It feels like im doing every plate spinning at once and if i make one mistake i die but meanwhile most of my teammates are llaying like total clowns

[merry flume]

i think they should add the bret longsword and billhook to darktide send post

[open pollen]

Might be my favorite finale event just because of the randomized objectives

[fleet zealot]

Ogryn billhook

The 2 lighter pickaxes

[merry flume]

NO NOT OGRYN

[ornate bone]

Honestly yeah

[fleet zealot]

The heavy doesnt billhook

[merry flume]

regular people sized billhook 😭

[ornate bone]

One of the most fun aspects of the BLS was its ability to block while holding a heavy

[merry flume]

it was good in a not overpowered way too

[cerulean moth]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1053823148048527440/1255142010998751345/hadron_gaming.gif?ex=667e07d6&is=667cb656&hm=36f531c676babcd118c56694be745bf7af0b1d628ca353b3fafa8113a1af10a2&

[ornate bone]

They could easily make a blessing that extends the block to a portion of time after you release the heavy, and if you block an attack like that, your attack comes out stronger or a crit

I think Chivalry 2 has a similar mechanic

[hidden vessel]

Pickaxes look aight, but I guess they suck vs hordes

[spare talon]

what

[fleet zealot]

They should add a blessing where you get invincible cyberweasels that bite the heretics ankles

[cerulean moth]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1053823148048527440/1247976800185880687/POXWALKER.mp4?ex=667dabf7&is=667c5a77&hm=ff53c3a0f81075a89bc605d37cc86e9c65a17990c440f08a1ee8405315238fee&

[hidden vessel]

I have no idea do they

[cerulean moth]

Heres is my funniest one i have saved

pls say u havn't seen ti before

[fleet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/ferret-take-drag-funny-gif-15831994

[ionic spear]

which ones the better thammer?

[hidden vessel]

I haven't played new update yet been at work.

[spare talon]

all of em are great at hordes
theyre literally 2 handed ogryn weapons
and they sure feel like it

[ornate bone]

Just to be sure, I'm gonna test the shotgun camera issue on vanilla

[clear knot]

crucis

[ornate bone]

Maybe it's a mod some people have

[hidden vessel]

Better then shield? 👀

[ionic spear]

i jsut used it and got fucken ate lmao

[fleet zealot]

Branx (heavy variant) was so fun to leanr

[obsidian prairie]

Ironhelm

[fleet zealot]

Oh no

[hidden vessel]

Damb

[fleet zealot]

Shield got BM already and buffs this patch

[cerulean moth]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1053823148048527440/1241490392415866921/eldar.mp4?ex=667dce07&is=667c7c87&hm=684d901f19fe53d0c178bd0e4cfd84c828126019403918d9c1f4d43e5ad14702&

last one

ill stop reposting

[clear knot]

has skill ceiling

like

its not crazy

[fleet zealot]

She cute tho

[ornate bone]

Yeah no, it's a game bug

I bet the bolt pistol is fucked in vanilla too

[fleet zealot]

I want her to call me monkeigh and loom over me

[clear knot]

but you cant jsut go and wreck shit without a care in the world

[ornate bone]

Fatshark pls fix ok ty

[cerulean moth]

agreed

I love these

so much

MANY HANDS MAMDE OF MMONEY

[ionic spear]

can i do this with eviscerator

[ornate bone]

gary oldman sees right through me

https://tenor.com/view/my-favorite-gary-oldman-gif-5894426

[cerulean moth]

He is interrigator for a reason

[fleet zealot]

What if rannick was an interricrocodile

[cerulean moth]

ALIGATOR

[clear knot]

i mean yeah i can too i love OG evis but evis jsut doesnt have practical boss dmg

[fleet zealot]

Inneed lsleor

[cerulean moth]

VITATOR

[lethal totem]

@spare talon good recs for the talents/knife changes, just had a very comfy auric on the new map

[clear knot]

with hammer i get great consistent clear and great boss dmg

[fleet zealot]

Help im infecrd i cant sleep

[cerulean moth]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1053823148048527440/1239332222172135504/Ogryn_RKO.mp4?ex=667ddd13&is=667c8b93&hm=60b71b6232acf64feae8467e2337c11fb0d4824f4dcdf3c267034aeda96c95b3&

here

this makes mem giggle at night

[lethal totem]

mr cole saves the day

[ionic spear]

im just lvling rn only lvl 16 on zealot, thammer mark 2 did not feel that great, am i supposed to heavy atk?

[clear knot]

aah

[fleet zealot]

Oh just sont bothered

[clear knot]

one sec

[fleet zealot]

Until level 30

[cerulean moth]

ordering chinese in the mourning star be like

[fleet zealot]

Hammer relies on good rolls and thrust blessing

[ionic spear]

just wanna try the new weapons

ooooh

makes sense

[fleet zealot]

But you can practice the normal horde clear combos

[clear knot]

this is p much your ideal hammer

[fleet zealot]

Uhh crucis spams normal heavies

[final forge]

mk 15 with unyeilding and the talent for unyeilding can do some good boss dmg

[fleet zealot]

Ironhelm does h1/h2 cancel repeat or you active and thta will cleave

[clear knot]

you need thrust for boss dmg and you want slaught for clear and extra boss dmg in some edge cases.

[cerulean moth]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1153279327513886770/1203999676106416158/psyker_stare.gif?ex=667ddd54&is=667c8bd4&hm=8de6069a6f4b78dd66747888fd855a4cd1f4d83f5629c39ff0a2ff1b3a24cec7&

can i have it

pls

i want it

so bad

[obsidian prairie]

Thrust also allows better damage versus carapace enemies

[clear knot]

unyielding and flak is self explanatory

[cerulean moth]

isnt it more damage overall?

[obsidian prairie]

Yeah but activated thrust heavies are overkill for everything else

[ionic spear]

so shouldnt touch hammer yet basically

god leveling is so slow

i cant carry in heresy yet :(

[cerulean moth]

Ah fair

[clear knot]

id say use it to see if you even like how it plays. and if you like how it plays, then itll feel much better when you get a good one

at least, thats what i do

[cerulean moth]

you know who ELSE likes how it feels?

[clear knot]

my mooooom

[cerulean moth]

muscle man scream

screm?

scrame?

scream

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1053823148048527440/1201513966078275686/daemonhost.gif?ex=667e0cd4&is=667cbb54&hm=13d7575a02a062c13b0be1cd0f16edeac20c11eeaaece536fa8f682b7af3cd06&

[haughty haven]

i'm playing with a eviscerator 15

[ember yew]

[haughty haven]

what is a good variant of headhunter

[median steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/hakandbobr-darktide-hak-gif-4835721721778289528

[ember yew]

its actually funny how some players GO CHECK IT OUT when you ping DH

and then aggro it

https://tenor.com/view/wtf-huh-what-the-f-why-wtaf-gif-5589464956156088627

[spare talon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1196963366351147069/Warhammer_40000_Darktide_replay_2024.01.15-23.50_-_Trim.mp4?ex=667df981&is=667ca801&hm=b491ea7e2ba044e39effe554443284d778f47cc6d35530851b43c3b20e862a6c&

[ember yew]

what are you doing there with those level 19s

https://tenor.com/view/futurama-serious-stare-suspicious-gif-5319823

[spare talon]

brother and his friends

[ember yew]

fair enough

[cerulean moth]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1053823148048527440/1184968966674845836/hadron_help_me.mp4?ex=667dd859&is=667c86d9&hm=27641115de16e1ace461df26831f5542865a5fa5e0f7b557b2a6d4814391d269&

[fleet zealot]

For zealot? Mk3 all the way

Headhunter deadly accurate blessings

Uhh

Perks

Perks of all time

Perks for perks

Idk

[haughty haven]

the glorious flakiak

any of the mk3 or specific brand?

[fleet zealot]

Yea maniac goodc ause hh has low manaic dmaage

[ember yew]

wrong pics

[cerulean moth]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1053823148048527440/1182603729007030302/explosive_ordinance.mp4?ex=667dcf4c&is=667c7dcc&hm=012d3940cdcd9c68be7b8011e691831492ae04a292d3c3decf7f377c8c9baeec&

[fleet zealot]

There is only one mk3 hh

Then the mk7 and the mk9

[cerulean moth]

I agree but shh don't let the hadron simp army know

[fleet zealot]

But if your melee cant do carapace

[haughty haven]

iokie

[neat drum]

Lohner really said "im out lol"

[fleet zealot]

You can do carapace in mk3 hh

[haughty haven]

okay*

[fleet zealot]

And gun down crushers slowly but surley

Shieely

U get it

https://tenor.com/view/screaming-tired-yawn-ferret-gif-17878011036278559814

[ornate bone]

BROOOOOOOOOO

Hold up

[spare talon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1166969350733971546/Warhammer_40000_Darktide_2023.10.25_-_22.27.14.07_-_Trim.mp4?ex=667d9f26&is=667c4da6&hm=ce7e0362564f194dd84f6bc7304a84013d7707415b1c189de2f4207def568ed7&

[ornate bone]

The light 1 on the agni saul has better carapace damage than the other ones

Light 1 is relentless and the others are strike

HOW

[calm salmon]

Every demonhost must die

[ornate bone]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-shock-eyes-out-big-eyes-what-gif-26401236

how is a relentless attack better suited for single-target than the single-target attack type

[calm salmon]

Ask the combat axes

[ornate bone]

worse even

[spare talon]

oh i didnt see this ping
yea it kinda fucks hard

[ornate bone]

it works as normal on the flak gunner

[cerulean moth]

at some point u just gotta commit

[ornate bone]

I think it might be a carapace-specific thing

The C in Fatshark stands for consistency ☝️

[cerulean moth]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1053823148048527440/1201513966078275686/daemonhost.gif?ex=667e0cd4&is=667cbb54&hm=13d7575a02a062c13b0be1cd0f16edeac20c11eeaaece536fa8f682b7af3cd06&

[spare talon]

brain said "thats a poxburster"
body said "what" then proceeded to fucking explode

[cerulean moth]

but what if u hit it before it explodes bro

[spare talon]

it takes 30x damage from melee attacks

hitting it with any melee damage is an instant explosion

[cerulean moth]

nuh uh

[ionic spear]

whats the mk2 thammer clear combo

[spare talon]

assuming youre asking about the ironhelm cuz thats the only one where it isnt readily apparent

cuz im not sure anyone here remembers the thammers marks honestly

[ionic spear]

im new

im talking bout crucis

[spare talon]

heavy attacks

[cerulean moth]

heavy

[spare talon]

thats your combo

[ionic spear]

ok ty

how long do you hold the heavy tho

[clear knot]

lights are good for shotgunners or smth sometimes,

[ionic spear]

just hold?

[clear knot]

all the way

usually

[spare talon]

if you dont have thrust, it doesnt matter how long you hold it

[ionic spear]

so left click hold?

[clear knot]

if you have thrust, i usually get like, 2 stacks then go

yes

[ionic spear]

grey

[clear knot]

use it, get a feel for it.

[ionic spear]

wanna try it some more

[spare talon]

then you can let it go immediately as they prepare the side sweep
thrust is a blessing that gives it more power the longer you hold the heavy, and if you dont have it then theres no need to hold it

[ionic spear]

ah ol

ok*

ty

ima try it agian

lvl 17 so not like its gonna be crazy good

lmoa

[ornate bone]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/i9rFVMDPhyiyh7R95/d1337gFudhWh?invite=cr-MSw1N04sMTkwNTkwNTA4LA

new terror unlocked

[cerulean moth]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1053823148048527440/1124071352568131684/Replay_2023-06-29_22-07-20.mp4?ex=667dc906&is=667c7786&hm=53b951fe1ccb3ff28838a3bae8f55fe692a7d5487aea531d56b08f6f12bea070&

VR tide

imagine

[ornate bone]

I wish

[polar nexus]

vomitide

[ember yew]

carapatide

[spare talon]

i would not be a skinny ass white boy if there was full body vr darktide
id be fucking jacked

[ember yew]

Darktide Versus when

[cerulean moth]

tbh id still play as my short screaming zealot women\

[atomic star]

This

[cerulean moth]

shotgun taller than her

[spare talon]

cant wait for the trapper to shoot in a different direction to catch the people who instinctively dodge at the sound of it (me)

[cerulean moth]

big gun small women

[ember yew]

ai art

[cerulean moth]

Abominal intellgience

[atomic star]

The guns barrel is bent

[vestal pine]

abominal intellgence

[fluid fulcrum]

Ai art came a long way already

[ember yew]

its kinda scary

how it will be like

3-5 years later

artists are already panicking

[fluid fulcrum]

They shouldn't

[vestal pine]

well good for me for imagining shitty crossover fanfics

[fluid fulcrum]

It's a tool like everything else

[ember yew]

also it seems AI also can learn the specific artstyle/design of the artist and steal it

[fluid fulcrum]

I wish it could do that for music

It'd make writing songs so much easier in theme and style lol

[vestal pine]

p sure there is one

[median steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/jackass-jackass3d-explosion-flying-jackass3d-ending-gif-24900912

[fluid fulcrum]

It's very primitive still

[vestal pine]

ye

we said that to a image of girl eating ramen with fingers 5 years ago

[ornate bone]

I went to post about my stuff on the forums and then browsed the posts to see some older ones mention my issues with an "acknowledged" tag on them

Still posted, I'll bloat Fatshark's inbox

[proper gyro]

Thanks brunt I appreciate it

Fuck this guy

Every single time I get a weapon that would be perfect if I could just swap 2 of the modifier values a small part of me dies

[vestal pine]

i have a 314 modifier weapon

that is in prime condition

dont give up

[proper gyro]

I got a 379 one

I only had the plasteel to upgrade it twice but I got junk

Hoping and praying hadron doesn't brick the thing when I finish upgrading it

[spare talon]

why a mk1 anyway

[proper gyro]

Idk I liked it's attack patterns the most

[vestal pine]

i like mk7 nowdays

[misty mason]

Waiter, can I please get that with a side of free jollies?

[royal vortex]

https://streamable.com/2m7jnl

[opaque island]

i got to the final act of rogue trader, and im a little dissapointed the final enemies are gonna be ||necrons||... again

[tepid sphinx]

is this any good?

besides sprint perk

[vestal pine]

and carapace

[ember yew]

spent 1 mil ordos to try and get any decent shockmaul III

got zero 360+ (apart for a few extremely low damage or pen)

stopped till crafting update

[spare talon]

this is mine and it cost me 2 million

[grave anvil]

The stealth every 6 seconds knife build helps with the new map

[grave anvil]

Yep that's what I'm running too (if I'm not using knife - I basically always am)

[ember yew]

i just dont feel like wasting too much money in the toilet

https://tenor.com/view/geld-ins-klo-karl-ess-buisnesses-geschäfte-gif-22622069

[grave anvil]

The shock maul is nice. REALLY helps with ragers.

[ember yew]

darktide crafting

[grave anvil]

Makes them your bitch along with crushers

[spare talon]

https://tenor.com/view/burning-money-burn-money-gif-1832130508732520971

[tranquil edge]

Yall melee fight ragers?

[grave anvil]

"Perfect" blocking is way easier than the devil sword parry

[spare talon]

good one

[grave anvil]

It's very lenient

[misty mason]

Get me a round of moe gee toes

[ember yew]

@spare talonshow me crowd control detailed stats

is it 5 cleave on light or not with 79

[fast scroll]

How good is the DB crowd clearing?

[tranquil edge]

Someone in general was saying how they “increased rager speed attack animations” and i never noticed. You guys melee ragers or just back up and shoot em?

[grave anvil]

Great

[spare talon]

so is the devils claw parry
cuz you dont even need to time it on anything outside of overheads and demonhosts

[tranquil edge]

Dam zealots ignoring me

[grave anvil]

The ragers run and melee faster now. I usually save throwing knives for them

[spare talon]

i dont have the game open

[ember yew]

did they? wasnt it just Pox gas buff or something

[grave anvil]

Since I run revolver anyway

[spare talon]

depends on the situation and what im running

[tranquil edge]

Dunno someone in general chat complaining about it lmao

[ember yew]

k nvm then

[spare talon]

no they drastically increase it this patch

[tranquil edge]

Two people*

[spare talon]

they attack so fast now

[grave anvil]

VoC makes it meaningless, but yeah otherwise the gas is dangerous

[tranquil edge]

That’s the thing i don’t think you were able to just straight out melee fight them from the start

[grave anvil]

You can block and quickly stab their head with a knife if you want

[spare talon]

zealots dont have voc and we're talking about ragers, not the gas

[ember yew]

i just usually shoot them w brauto, so didnt really notice

[fast scroll]

Going to make a doom Slayer build and then zealot all over the place

[ember yew]

dang

does it need 80

for 5 cleave

[tranquil edge]

Psyker 4 lyfee

[tranquil edge]

Ah

[spare talon]

whatever honestly

[fast scroll]

Why would you settle with less?

[spare talon]

the indi already is a light heavy alternate for crowd clear

[tranquil edge]

But it staggers them wuth normal block? Or they keep attacking? Or you need special block ot something?

[spare talon]

the only actual block that will stop them is a shock maul with blessing

[tranquil edge]

Ez, shield powers, shards, using a gun because wizard with a gun, and squishiness for more challenge

[tranquil edge]

Interesting

[proper gyro]

If you have a build with the perk that gives you uninterruptible then you can just tank their hits and stagger them with your own

Then they're fucked

[spare talon]

but with how often they hit before you stagger them
why would you even bother
youll take so much chip damage

you can literally dodge them

[tranquil edge]

Was first time I’ve heard of melee fighting a rager lol

[ember yew]

@spare talon

[proper gyro]

Idk I don't have any issues with my heavy sword build

[ember yew]

hmm

[proper gyro]

I always melee fight them if I'm running the heavy sword

[tranquil edge]

Blessed omnissiah

[proper gyro]

Knife too but I haven't tried since they got the speed buff so it might be harder now

[tranquil edge]

Oh is it a reach thing? Since heavy would be considered longest?

[tranquil edge]

Oh

[proper gyro]

That does help

[tranquil edge]

My advice for the speed buff… gun :3

[proper gyro]

My build is centered around always having shit to fight and kill so as long I don't have something to interrupt my attacks then I'm fine

[spare talon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1249639728354164747/Darktide_replay_2024.04.18-03.20_-_Trim.mp4?ex=667dc9f0&is=667c7870&hm=9e889e46ab1cee89318583a3d1eb67dc29fff0047165b6012894c65e4454dffb&

[tranquil edge]

Yeah but that’s the special block from catachan swords

[proper gyro]

I don't have any good clips of me melee fighting them with the hsword

[tranquil edge]

Still meleeing ragers tho very noice

[proper gyro]

I wish they hadn't nerfed the impact strength perk as much as they did

[spare talon]

an older video of me fighting a mixed horde with ragers using hs9
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/752156106071081021/1176792650553245747/Warhammer_40000_Darktide_2023.11.21_-_23.15.42.01_-_Trim.mp4?ex=667dc34f&is=667c71cf&hm=489ed7a895af3de4d13c8a53e286e573c33b18128ab61ee32743991275c9889e&

[proper gyro]

30 -> 5% seems excessive

[spare talon]

this was before they were dodgable

it would be easier now

[proper gyro]

Yeah it looks like this

[spare talon]

like i said
it depends on your weapon and the situation

[tranquil edge]

Ah so they just now made them dodgeable

[spare talon]

months ago

that video is like
7 months old

[tranquil edge]

Oh i only came back now, after they added bolt gun. Last time i was here was when they added penance thing

[royal vortex]

2 hours of playing ogryn in duos and half the runs end to really stupid game jank

[tranquil edge]

Penance shop thing across melk

[spare talon]

thats when they made ragers dodgable

[proper gyro]

I only just got around to putting cool down reduction on my curios

[royal vortex]

i wish u werent fkin wheelchair bound on this class

[tranquil edge]

Ohh

See, me old update brain, “shoot rager”

[north sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/mac-and-me-wheelchair-cliff-swim-diving-gif-18547347

[tranquil edge]

Oggy’s?

[royal vortex]

i really like how sometimes enemies rushing to fill slots means a groaner will run straight to where you wanted to dodge to

and now this 8 foot wall of meat is stopped by some dude who hasnt ate in the last 8 weeks but keeps shitting himself

[proper gyro]

Ogryn should feel bigger than they do

[tranquil edge]

Ez remove player collusion when dodging

[spare talon]

dodges really should be able to knock down low hitmass enemies

or have no collision on them

[royal vortex]

i also wish snipers wouldn't track you mid-bullrush

[spare talon]

elites makes sense

[proper gyro]

Mfs are getting knocked down by dogs when they can go toe to toe with a space marine

[spare talon]

but holy shit
let me fucking move

[royal vortex]

i've had situations where im mutie grabbed in a corridor and he throws me into a wall next to him

and i can either bullrush away and get shot

or just perish

the perishing happens either way because im playing duos with a class that has 0 clutch potential at all

[proper gyro]

That's my issue with ogryn tbh

[spare talon]

its crazy how the higher level you get
the clutch potential of classes invert

higher level as in just general skill i mean

[proper gyro]

They just don't feel great to play

[royal vortex]

ogryn is great until you run into some stupid bullshit that just gets u killed

https://streamable.com/leo334

i yell in this clip fair warning

[proper gyro]

I like crumpling shit but I feel like I'm constantly getting hit by bullshit

[royal vortex]

this is after like 6 duo runs half of which ended in the dumbest deaths ever

[spare talon]

me fighting for my fucking life out here as an ogryn against 2 gunners and a reaper out here 2 blocks away gunning me down as a horde is on my ass so i cant shoot em

as a zealot thats a light snack

[proper gyro]

Typical Darktide experience

[royal vortex]

it's so absurd

[proper gyro]

I think the shit that annoys me the most is the grunt enemies with their dollar store assault rifles

[spare talon]

90% of crusher overheads i take are exclusively cuz poxy mcgee had his pinkie toe too close to where i wanted to dodge so my character decided she wasnt going to risk stepping on those toesies so she stays in place

[proper gyro]

At least when a gunner kills me it something actually dangerous and not a fucking grunt enemy who got a lucky shot

Same here

It's annoying

I also hate that you don't pass through enemies while in stealth

It makes me fucking insane

[royal vortex]

https://streamable.com/2m7jnl

[spare talon]

do i have the video for you

[royal vortex]

this one is me being outplayed by a mutant

[proper gyro]

Shade is so much better than stealth zealot and I love stealth zealot

[royal vortex]

i did not expect him to bounce me off a fkin crate and onto his shoulders so that i couldnt ult

[spare talon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1252364856418369556/Warhammer_40000_Darktide_replay_2024.06.17-15.42.mp4?ex=667dd0a9&is=667c7f29&hm=2a2d81aed09cbd3ee4a772ae747760e3a9dbb6d6745746fda610c4eda8495861&

also notice at the elevator part that i dodge to the right but the chaos spawns knockback even while youre dodging redirected me so i wasnt able to scrape out of being locked in

[proper gyro]

Good clutch though

I probably would've died

I don't use the flame thrower but that thing saved your ass

[spare talon]

funny enough
this build was originally for solo speedruns, where the goal was to sprint past everything, but still be able to kill things if the conditions for the event to end required it

but now its become my main build

for knife at least

[proper gyro]

Maybe I'll give the flame thrower a shot

[spare talon]

and since fotf flamer is basically only for crushers, and high crit duellist/precog knife already can reasonable deal with crushers as you can see

having flamer and knives is perfectly viable assuming your melee can actually handle crushers

and man does it work

[north sedge]

was

[spare talon]

wdym was

[north sedge]

fotf flamer was basically only for crushers

[vestal pine]

what do you put on flamer

[north sedge]

blaze away + whatever

[vestal pine]

im now divided between flak + groaners

and flak + elite

[spare talon]

yeah that was my point
since the build uses shroud and not fotf, it didnt get hit

[north sedge]

groaners dont matter

[spare talon]

cuz the flamers role in the build was never meant for crushers

[north sedge]

flak elite is much better

[spare talon]

it was meant for kiting everything into a straight line and fucking brrrrrrrrrrr

[vestal pine]

apprantly some guy said to me internally that the groaner damage is actualy unarmored/infested 10%

[spare talon]

watch the kill counter jump to 80 and the side bar just fill with elite kills

[vestal pine]

so that got me interested

[north sedge]

groaners dont matter

[vestal pine]

yeah but unarmored does

[north sedge]

no it doesnt

flamer fucking smokes em

[vestal pine]

that said vest unarmored is meaningless for flamer so

shrug

[spare talon]

flak is the thing that would take the longest to kill
so more damage against that would be ideal

and ofc carapace is just DOA on it now

so its just flak to kill the things that hold out longer, faster
and elites for the exact same reason

[vestal pine]

either that or

unyielding

for some boss cookery action but idk

sounds bad

[spare talon]

not really worth it

[north sedge]

unyielding was good at one time, but there's so much boss dmg available to everyone now

[spare talon]

exactly

plus it also requires you to keep holding the flamer out
and once youre at 15 stacks youll likely swap to melee at that point till you need to refresh them back up

and in my case with a knife
stabbing them is far more preferable in terms of damage output

[ember yew]

@spare talon

im not feeling chastice nerfs with knife tbh

and dropping uncanny feels nice

[spare talon]

mercy killer

[ember yew]

95% critchance for reliable bleed for mercy

[polar nexus]

chadness

[spare talon]

dont get me wrong its good with high crit chance and scourge
but its has a lower possible damage bonus, and is impossible to have active for the first hit

precognitions condition doesnt require a hit, and its a bonus to both headshots and crits, allowing it to double dip

[ember yew]

but its a guaranteed damage you can expect unlike precog which has certain RNG

i'l make Riposte Precog after crafting update

[spare talon]

mercy killer however is more consistent against bosses but youve seen precog in action lmao

[ember yew]

still tops 800k damage on new map, i guess im that mercy killer main

not like i dont want to waste 5 mil on precog riposte knife or anything

[spare talon]

ive only played shock maul on that map
and god damn do i suck ass with it
like im killing stuff, quite fast too, but i cant seem to avoid getting hit a ton

[ember yew]

nah, its just feels like it sucks ass

its a generalist weapon

but does not feel strong as like

rashad

knife

[polar nexus]

But telopots said it was best weapon

Because he touched it

/sarcasm

[ember yew]

https://tenor.com/view/touching-grass-touch-gif-21219969

its certainly strong weapon

[spare talon]

it does feel quite strong, but the moment the situation starts to feel hectic its like i crumple instantly

[ember yew]

i want shred blessing for it

[spare talon]

and i say this from my experience in normal damnation

which is WILD

never have i felt like i was so consistently against the ropes as i have been playing shock maul on that new map

[ember yew]

since fishing for crits with 30(starting)-60% CH isnt super exciting experience

[spare talon]

i still havent tried it with piety tho so the tdr might help with that but yknow

[polar nexus]

This is why claw > *

[spare talon]

30-60% can still be pretty fine since it swings pretty fast

[spare talon]

dude the claw has been feelin so bad since the cdr nerf

[ember yew]

its just annoying to start scourge with 30 though

[polar nexus]

I was using it with judgment

[spare talon]

like i still like the weapon but i just dont feel like im playing as well

[polar nexus]

I use BP with knife only now

[spare talon]

in every aspect, like just actual raw gameplay
and you remember that im definitely not that bad with it lmao

but yeah i was considering swapping to judgement with it

still using shred, duellist, scourge, but not going down the piety road

but i havent booted it back up since ive just been turned off from it honestly

[polar nexus]

Skull crusher is good too

[spare talon]

lemme find the build editor thing i planned to use

something like this

atk speed and soc could be juggled around as i find out what i like with this setup

[polar nexus]

I would take anoint and purge

But that's because I am a bolter zealot first

[crisp glade]

is this build for zealot that i made any good?

[spare talon]

anoint has been growing on me as ive seen the breakpoints it can hit, such as throwing knives killing trappers to the body, as youd get a small bump when theyre close enough to be thrown at anyway, and its enough to bump the 877 to 900 anyway

[polar nexus]

Nope!

[spare talon]

plus revolver with duellist for crusher allowing for 2 shots

with anoint

[polar nexus]

Anoint is a hard pass

[spare talon]

but like i said ill find out what i like as i tweak it

but purge the unclean

eehhhh

infested is a non issue

[polar nexus]

It's better than melee attack speed... Considering you already have that with judgement

[spare talon]

and so thats basically a talent point for bosses reapers and bulwarks

[polar nexus]

Parry the bosses!

[spare talon]

yeah
but that point could go to good balance too

plus i am a big fan of SoC esp with dclaw

and thats already a 2 point investment

[crisp glade]

ehh well i like my build its seen me through so far so im happy with it

[spare talon]

so id be giving that up, and i have always preferred higher survivability over higher damage
after all, i cant deal damage if im dead

[polar nexus]

It's not the most optimized gambler

[crisp glade]

if ya telling me to use loner over getting rid of corruption you can shove ya opinion where the sun dont shine

[spare talon]

fortitude in fellowship gives less coherency toughness regen than a curio perk can at the cost of a talent point, plus coherency regen isnt even enabled in melee combat, which makes it the least useful on zealots out of all the classes, esp with how many methods we have of in-combat generation

[spare talon]

punishment is giving you a total of 25% impact when fully stacked, which is really not that useful. the uninterruptable effect granted at 5 stacks is already given by twbs by default, which you also have

[ornate bone]

terrible tbh

:3

[fleet fractal]

Hi bitches

[spare talon]

both of the nodes youre taking above martyrdom are not good, the +2 wounds can be very good if youre running martyrdom but you arent, and the martyrs purpose is literally base on the percentage of your health lost, which means youre ENTIRE HEALTH BAR is equivelent to ONCE USE of an ability, when you dont want to even be taking damage in the first place

[ornate bone]

my build

[crisp glade]

only using faith's fortitude for the extra wounds

[spare talon]

for the judgement keystone, inebriates poise is almost mandatory, as 3 stacks upon a dodge allows you to maintain max stacks during actual combat, and its not "per dodge that dodges an attack", its per attack dodged, meaning you can consistently get 6-9 stacks with one dodge in normal combat

[spare talon]

but the idea is you wouldnt want to have those wounds be put to use in the first place

they only have any use at all if youre going down

and you want to do everything to prevent that

[ornate bone]

dont need wounds if u never die

[ember yew]

drop bonus toughness from kills into second wind, otherwise classic

[spare talon]

true

2.5% more toughness from a kill vs 15% from a dodge is a much higher net gain and is applicable to drasically more situations

such as ranged fire

(except gunners and reapers)

but still

[ornate bone]

understood

[ember yew]

its so funny to regen full toughness under fire

never gets old

[opal sparrow]

If you're having fun with it go for it, I've seen terribly worse builds in missions

[crisp glade]

i mean i only just hit level 30 on my zealot and honestly i love my current build it works

[ornate bone]

fwiw people can win damnation without any talents so your build can be ass and u can still win with it

just takes alot more effort

[spare talon]

ive almost won an auric damnation maelstrom with my signature bestest build

[ember yew]

[opal sparrow]

Thats alright, I used to run dumb builds back in beta with the crap "talent tree"

[ember yew]

peek perversion

the king of pervs

[opal sparrow]

I recently just got a psyker, vet, and ogryn to level 30 in two days from level 0 to 30 so I get the whole new to the class deal

[ember yew]

tho they buffed (?) lasguns

probably need a replacement

[ember yew]

for v2

[spare talon]

you mean recon lasguns

this is an infantry lasgun

and its the worst one by far

[ember yew]

i didnt check the exact marks

[spare talon]

but maybe it needs to be changed to the autopistol

[ember yew]

so they didnt buff ALL lasguns huh

[spare talon]

since that was bad then they nerfed it more supposedly

[spare talon]

yeah just recons
since they were basically tickling

like 1/10th of your reserves to kill a mutant

to the head

[ember yew]

https://tenor.com/view/tickling-feet-tickle-gif-18912555

i wonder if Vet onslaught is more reliable now

[crisp glade]

what are some good weapons i can use on zealot

[ember yew]

for melee -anything, just ignore tactical axes for time being and Antax 5 and Achlys 8 combat axes

[ornate bone]

hsword 9

zarona

[crisp glade]

the flamer is that any good

[oak cargo]

tactical axes are fun tho

[spare talon]

https://tenor.com/view/kill-people-gif-25984064

[ember yew]

yeah, but last patch got it nerfed quite a bit

[spare talon]

but yeah tac axes are quite shit in comparison to literally every other weapons preformance

[ember yew]

they cause brain damage from autospam

[crisp glade]

also i am enjoying the 2 handed chainsword

[spare talon]

they try to fill the role of both combat axes and knifes, but dont do well at either, quite noticably too

[ember yew]

yeah

[ornate bone]

the ragdoll from that gunner you flamed

[ember yew]

https://tenor.com/view/fly-me-to-the-moon-take-me-to-the-moon-send-me-to-the-moon-lets-go-to-the-moon-launch-me-to-the-moon-gif-17524452

[ornate bone]

ummm with the new crafting am i gonna lose my current weapons?

[ember yew]

no

[ornate bone]

y'know

[spare talon]

yes*

[ornate bone]

it almost looks like the dog spooked the gunner

[oak cargo]

i've been using tac axes on my shouty vet and it's kinda nice tbh idk it scratches some kinda brain itch

[spare talon]

*current weapons will be used as progress toward mastery

at least thats what i understood from the article

[ember yew]

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/introduction-to-the-itemization-rework-dev-blog/96314

[crisp glade]

so the loner zealots are generally the first idiots to die right?

[ember yew]

im gonna re-read this

[ornate bone]

Well, there's bad knife players

[spare talon]

bad loner zealot you mean

[ornate bone]

And god-tier absolute fucking menace knife players

[crisp glade]

yeah

[spare talon]

[ornate bone]

keep yourself safe

[ornate bone]

does it mean im better off grinding to get get every blessing on the weapons i like or do i just need the best ones

I can't wait for the shotty to be fixed in half a year so I can enjoy knife vet with it

[ember yew]

just get the best ones

like uncanny strike, precog, riposte, etc (knife example)

[ornate bone]

also does this mean theres no point in hitting the slots anymore

[ember yew]

seems like it

[ornate bone]

damn

[ember yew]

however i dont like the sounds of it

[ornate bone]

real and true, but

[ember yew]

if it means i must manually switch marks and perks, blessings everytime

it is annoying as hell

[ornate bone]

I'll see if I remember to record one of my "overextend to backstab every ranged enemy to open space for the team to kill the ogryn crowd" moments

[ember yew]

if i want 3 different mk6 knives for example

i dont want to switch blessings or perks on that one knife each time

if i cant get multiple dupes

[spare talon]

this team was fun to play with

[ember yew]

When designing itemization, we wanted to commit to ensuring fairness for all players, new and old. As such, we’re implementing a migration system to convert players’ current weapons and blessings into the new system.

Here’s how it works: The blessing library of the weapon family will be converted into mastery progression. This means players will start the new systems with a head start in mastery, giving them the chance to unlock previously owned blessings (as well as the chance to unlock some blessings players never had before the update).

Our aim is to preserve players hard-earned progress and make this shift as smooth as possible.

What about Curios? Curios will have their locks removed but they will remain unaffected beyond this change.

[ornate bone]

Lower levels are the chillest gamers, usually

[ornate bone]

oh my god

I went fullscreen on the video

immediately mashed spacebar to go through the rewards

https://tenor.com/view/cat-shock-eyes-out-big-eyes-what-gif-26401236

mental rottening

[ember yew]

ranald middle finger moments

[ornate bone]

https://tenor.com/view/spy-skykids-magnifying-glasses-datass-gif-22376687

me looking at the bar after Ranald gave me the gift

(I didn't see anything)

[polar nexus]

Fortitude is (or was until recent patch) bugged to function like a loner lite without investing points in it.

[spare talon]

this is how my team thanks me for clutching a game

[royal vortex]

he has a plan

[spare talon]

waht the fuck why did the video do that

there we go

better comedic timing

[polar nexus]

And yet , Tyr, Crab, Choco, telopots, are using them to great effect and the best zealot I know too...

[spare talon]

"not gonna let anyone kill you"

[ember yew]

are we going

to 500 ilvl?

[polar nexus]

I fear that it will benefit a lot weapons with a lot of dump stats

[ember yew]

since 500 = all 5 stats at 100

[polar nexus]

Like bolter. You just want DMG and reload speed. The rest is whatever

[ember yew]

bolter reload 100

sounds sick

[polar nexus]

Yes

[ember yew]

reset draw animation with knife and good to go

[cunning knoll]

blessings and perks also influence this number

but i sure hope so

[ember yew]

best part of pug experience

[crisp glade]

ok so i changed the build a little bit but i refuse to budge on faiths fortitude

i'd rather have those extra wounds as a safety net

would second wind work with stripped down?

[spare talon]

i believe so, but you dont really need it when it would proc from just sliding to dodge ranged fire

which would both conserve stamina and doesnt have a stamina requirement to begin with

[crisp glade]

it was just a simple yes or no answer dont care for any explanations or lectures or whatever

[polar nexus]

yes it works

[dense field]

You'll probably gonna need them since you have no toughness generators.

[dense field]

Yes

[polar nexus]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3088553235

[still quartz]

I miss when Stripped Down blessing gave Sprint Speed :c

During the early days of Patch 13, you could run that with Swift Certainty talent and just ZOOM

Not useful

But was very funny

[dense field]

[crisp glade]

ha no need for that when stripped down provides range immunity

[spare talon]

with a condition however

and a good balance works on both melee and ranged

both proccing and its effect

[willow ore]

what's the dump stat going to be on shockmauls?

[polar nexus]

if you're out of toughness and ducking gun fire to get reckt by a poxwalker / burster you'll be glad to regen toughness

[spare talon]

mobility
all of the other stats have such drastic differences between their min and max stats that its pretty important that the others are high

[ember yew]

mobility and to small extent crowd control

[spare talon]

cuz crowd control has a light attack cleave breakpoint of 5 targets

exactly at 80%

[ember yew]

nope

it does not give 5

at 80

its 4.95

[spare talon]

i thought you said it was that at your 79% roll

[ember yew]

i rolled 80

and its 4.95

[spare talon]

bro what the fuck fatshark

[crisp glade]

there we go

[willow ore]

dammit. I figured it probably was, but I just saw an 80/80/80/80/47 on the store where the 47 was finesse and I was just hoping in vain that it might not be as stat-bricked as I thought.

[crisp glade]

now i just need my colomnus mk 5 infantry auto with stripped down

[spare talon]

oh yeah thats fucked

[spare talon]

like take a closer look at the finesse stat

[spare talon]

[ember yew]

47 finesse is a no go

[crisp glade]

oh that reminds me dance of death does it work with stripped down

[willow ore]

yeah, looking now. like I say it was more of a vain hope, 4x80s don't come up often

[sonic totem]

Is lightning reflexes worth it? I've found more success running hammerblow with the smaul but maybe I'm not using it right.

[spare talon]

ranged fire naturally counts as dodged when sprinting at an angle with stamina
so every dodge talent will also work with it

[ember yew]

i'd say not worth it

Seems like either Hammerblow/Skullcrusher or the electrocute damage thingy

[vestal pine]

dream a dream

[spare talon]

high voltage is BiS

[vestal pine]

whats BiS

[still quartz]

Best in Slot

[vestal pine]

ah

[still quartz]

Anybody tried Entropic?

[vestal pine]

i thought Bowser's inside story

kek

[spare talon]

as basically on any human sized enemy, any attack will give electrocuted to them, allowing for increased damage

[vestal pine]

Entropic is great

[still quartz]

The Shock Maul Talent that lets you do perfect blocks

I wanna try that shit

[vestal pine]

buy HV just activates on everything

[ember yew]

If they didnt nerf punishment, we could used High Voltage + Skullcrusher

[still quartz]

That looks fun as hell

[vestal pine]

basically

[spare talon]

its now called lightning reflexes

[still quartz]

Oh

Aww I liked Entropic more

:C

[spare talon]

josho was saying that the weakspot impact one was actually pretty good with the saul

especially since the application of electrocuted is seemingly tied to stagger force

allowing ogryn enemies to be electrod without being tazed

for that HV bonus

[sonic totem]

The one under thy wrath be swift?

[ember yew]

sounds good enough

[spare talon]

plus with skullcrush existing

might actually be worth it beyond that

[sonic totem]

Oh wait, do heavies also electrify enemies? I thought it was just lights

[spare talon]

.

[sonic totem]

Damn

[crisp glade]

stopping power is important correct on the columnus autogun mk 5 right?

[sonic totem]

Okay, might try that later

[ember yew]

stopping power most of the time means damage, yes

[sonic totem]

Hammerblow + Skullcrusher makes the smaul just a slightly worse version of the Crusher for me, so maybe HV might let it reach better damage

[spare talon]

its typically in relation to armor

making it quite important as most stuff youre often shooting tends to have an armor type

[spiral anvil]

Smaul?

[drowsy steppe]

https://tenor.com/view/3d-saul-saul-goodman-adamghik-gif-23876766

[drowsy steppe]

you mean to tell me that staggering enemies with saul just applies the damage bonus from High voltage?

[spare talon]

if they have electric vfx, they count as electrocuted in the eyes of high voltage

[sonic totem]

Shock maul

[spare talon]

which you will see those vfx after pretty much every attack on pretty much every human sized enemy

you can test it yourself

[frosty herald]

Embed

Fail

[spare talon]

no talents, shock maul with high voltage and entropic

you can watch the damage jump up after the first hit

[drowsy steppe]

pretty neat

oh do u have a video showing off how entropic works

[spare talon]

no but its pretty much as it reads

its very lenient on what it considers a timed block, and doing it gives you the 20-25% power bonus for 3.5 seconds

it can and will stun ragers

[dense field]

Doesn't it round up anyway?

[spare talon]

and the stun duration is about as long as a full taze

[cursive fulcrum]

Any consensus for decent blessings n perks for bolt pistol?

[spare talon]

personally think the best combo is deadly accurate and surgical

[drowsy steppe]

yea in place of any other blessings

DA and surg

[dense field]

Sweet

[cursive fulcrum]

Bet thx guys gonna have to try n roll one tmrw

[solar gorge]

i have surge and the +dmg on stagger unique one

mind you that's on my vet, i didn't make one for zealot yet

[dense field]

WAIT IT HAS SURGE?

[spare talon]

surgical

not surge

[drowsy steppe]

bro thinks hes on psyker chat

[spare talon]

bro if we had guns that had surge

lord have mercy

[sonic totem]

I fukin wish

[solar gorge]

surge

[sonic totem]

Give psyker the ability to manifest a second bullet

[drowsy steppe]

like

[north sedge]

More importantly it has bleed 😔

[drowsy steppe]

zarona has bullet magnetism

now imagine 2 rounds of it

[hushed agate]

One really big assail shard

[spare talon]

https://tenor.com/view/kill-the-rot-goofy-goober-silly-schizophrenia-gif-12414327510351470727

[solar gorge]

bleed on 1 blessing for boltstol is good

but alas

[cursive fulcrum]

What perks for bolt aswell? Carapace maybe?

[solar gorge]

it doesn't come even close to the power of the dual bleed knife

[hushed agate]

Flak/carapace flak/maniac seems good

[drowsy steppe]

imagine a world where bleed dot stacks dont have a limit

[hushed agate]

This gif is so good

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/what-the-dog-doin-dobby-rather-mundane-when-i-see-the-dog-holding-back-gif-21970815

[spare talon]

me launching darktide on an update day finding out what mods crash my game

[solar gorge]

vanilla chads stay winning

[vestal pine]

me removing weapons customization

https://tenor.com/view/half-life-half-life2-gman-gif-25087297

[spare talon]

i havent used it in a while

it destroys the games memory

i like playing more than 2 missions without a crash thanks

[vestal pine]

fair point

but me look cool

[frosty herald]

You deny your pc its purpose

[spare talon]

wrong

[solar gorge]

https://tenor.com/view/black-kid-scared-cry-gif-5477074

[drowsy steppe]

the novelty runs out after maybe 5 games

I use it only to add optics, but opted to remove it afterwards

[spice wren]

Dude what fucking pipe is Fartshart smoking from

New ZEALOT helmet just dropped.

That has no matching armor pieces at all for the zealot class.

[vestal pine]

i should buy that

[spice wren]

I wish you luck if you do.

There is not a singular khaki color Zealot set to my knowledge.

[vestal pine]

chem-dogs

[spice wren]

It doesn't match completely, yes it's close but.

It's more.. orangeish

[frosty herald]

So hows the zealot and vet pages look like?

[solar gorge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1153279327513886770/1255810150707630140/1361210_20240627180046_1.png?ex=667e7bd7&is=667d2a57&hm=211419ba101a4ddbd5973e2d90fe155bd2322f3d4a01c554013b7577b0fb06cf&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=931&height=524

[ornate bone]

new shop?

[solar gorge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1153279327513886770/1255810149780820048/1361210_20240627180039_1.png?ex=667e7bd7&is=667d2a57&hm=44e988cce3af176b6dbc6fd3816561284911895f52017ef42c904aa4944ea3b4&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=931&height=524

[frosty herald]

The ogryn shield looks baller

[ornate bone]

where hsword skin grrrrrrrrrrr

[ornate bone]

ok but the revo is sick

[wooden river]

Missing equip text!

Also

https://tenor.com/view/ff-xiv-14-ffxiv-ff14-gif-25391089

[frosty herald]

Apologies in advance because im using the mouthpiece

[crisp glade]

what the heck is this

[solar gorge]

enforcer uniforms

[crisp glade]

older release?

[solar gorge]

no

today's release

[crisp glade]

.....i can reallllllly get behind this