this is not an opinion unique to the crusher
#zealot-class
oblique nexus
Stun-based weaponry should be able to handle greater numbers than those that outright kill, though.
In terms of balance it's pretty sensible.
Killing an enemy is of far greater effect than merely halting or slowing them for a bit.
south folio
Stun-based weaponry ***should*** be able to handle greater numbers than those th...
yes
but infinite cleave has degenerate scaling
the point is to just give it finite cleave
coarse birch
theres handle greater numbers
south folio
so that it has a cap
oblique nexus
The only times this differs is when a oneshot isn't possible against an extremely deadly threat...
Or against an enemy that is otherwise impossible to stagger.
Ogryn Crushers being a prime example of both factors.
harsh wren
isn't infinite cleave kinda hyperbolic conceptually?
south folio
and my point is that it has a good combination of damage and stagger
coarse birch
you are removing the threat
harsh wren
isn't it directly limited by the amount of unit collision that fits into its aoe?
south folio
it's not actually losing that much in terms of damage compared to other options
south folio
isn't it directly limited by the amount of unit collision that fits into its aoe...
yes but that's a long phrase to say
it gets the point and i hope it is obvious to people that the cleave is limited by the swing arc
because i do not want a conversation with people who do not understand that basic fact
harsh wren
yeah, but it's important to conceptually pin that down before you to talk about changing the effective cap to a hard cap, is it not?
south folio
but it's so fucking obvious
oblique nexus
and handle stupid amounts
You say that, but Ogryn Crushers can't typically be staggered by a single heavy empowered strike.
They usually take one or two additional hits... And that's assuming a direct hit, not a blast from the AoE elsewhere.
It's possible to stagger 12 Ogryn Crushers at once, but it's not consistent or ezpz.
south folio
why do i have to establish that
coarse birch
You say that, but Ogryn Crushers can't typically be staggered by a single heavy ...
i was referring to human elites
south folio
and enemies in swing arc are also likely the majority of enemeis that will be a threat to you
oblique nexus
i was referring to human elites
What, like the armored Ragers?
Why shouldn't it be able to stagger however many of them run into your face?
coarse birch
im with arco i think most people are aware infinite cleave just means everything you can hit
coarse birch
What, like the armored Ragers?
Why shouldn't it be able to stagger however many ...
any human elite
just not ogryns
south folio
the basic idea is that you're making things very safe and neutralizing the threat that are human enemies
coarse birch
basically
harsh wren
which is directly tied to the existing radius
south folio
yes
harsh wren
which is an entire statline of the weapon
oblique nexus
any human elite
To my knowledge Elites cover all Ogryns and like... One or two human-sized enemies?
coarse birch
thats why i corrected to human elite
oblique nexus
What unit*(s)* do you mean, exactly?
coarse birch
and specials
hard nexus
and so fucking obviously NOT infinite
infinite cleave means even if there were a billion enemies in a single spot, the strike would cleave through it. In the limited area of the strike or explosion, it will cleave everything, hence, infinite cleave
coarse birch
anything that is not an ogryn
south folio
just to be sure, you know that the AoE and infinite cleave are two distinct things i'm talking about right
because the AoE has infinite cleave of course, but i'm also talking about the infinite cleave of the direct hit of the swing as well
harsh wren
infinite cleave means even if there were a billion enemies in a single spot, the...
and what im saying is that practically speaking that is nonsense, and we should talk about the radius.
becuse thats what we're actually talking about.
oblique nexus
anything that is not an ogryn
If it ain't an Ogryn, I see absolutely no reason why an empowered strike shouldn't stagger ALL enemies it strikes.
Like FFS, normal hits already floor in 1-3 hits for most non-Ogryns. Heavy strikes especially.
Empowered, it's pretty reasonable that it'd do so.
south folio
no?
hard nexus
becuse thats what we're actually talking about.
no
south folio
because i don't want to limit the swing arc of the weapon
i want to limit its cleave values
hard nexus
exactly what i was gonna say lol
south folio
why are you steering this conversation into some random ass direction
coarse birch
If it ain't an Ogryn, I see absolutely no reason why an empowered strike shouldn...
i am of the opinion you should not be staggering that many elites
ripe quest
This convo is grade A material lmao
hard nexus
weird semantics, honestly it’s better to just ignore it at this point lol
south folio
This convo is grade A material lmao
my sleep deprivation is dampening my senses
fleet zealot
HEY GO READ THE DEVBLOG
S
south folio
my awake self would have just cursed them and moved on
fleet zealot
Shut, STFU about whatever convo ur having
oblique nexus
i am of the opinion you should not be staggering that many elites
But why tho'.
Other weapons easily rip said elites in half, how would you logically justify a stagger-oriented club NOT being able to do so?
Explain the balance behind this as a comparison, not merely in a vacuum.
coarse birch
because it hits a ton of them with decent damage and applies a debuff
south folio
But why tho'.
Other weapons easily rip said elites in half, how would you logica...
we're also of the opinion to nerf the DPS of other weapons
harsh wren
i want to limit its cleave values
on the special specially right?
coarse birch
for the record, stuff like hsword should also not exist
south folio
like keep in mind that we want to nerf other weapons
coarse birch
we generally shit too hard on density
south folio
just that the crusher happens to be the topic of this conversation at the moment
radiant nacelle
It's possible to care so much about something that by drilling down to the tiny details that make up the big picture you lose the plot of the big picture of what you were caring about
south folio
like just keep it to the crusher and let's not bring other weapons into it just to simplify the discussion for fuck's sake
coarse birch
on the special specially right?
yes
oblique nexus
Nerf DPS of weapons that already typically take 2 hits to kill most grunt units
A tide game
I am losing my mind.
hard nexus
we're also of the opinion to nerf the DPS of other weapons
which ones??
fleet fractal
are there any femboys who would like to play darktide with me
hard nexus
are there any femboys who would like to play darktide with me
worst sentence ever just dropped
harsh wren
because i don't want to limit the swing arc of the weapon
The swing arc of the weapon, and the radius of the power attack discharage are wholly disctinct things.
this is my point.
south folio
>Nerf DPS of weapons that already typically take 2 hits to kill most grunt units...
not to mention hordeclear and whatnot
it might take two hits to kill one chaff, but at the same time weapons can just deal a lot of damage to many enemies and have a lot of cleave
dense field
worst sentence ever just dropped
is that a no?
clear knot
hnnng f--fem-fembois
hard nexus
die
south folio
The swing arc of the weapon, and the radius of the power attack discharage are w...
but i'm not talking about the radius of the aoe explosion because i want it deleted
so from implication, you can figure out that the infinite cleave i'm referring to is the direct hit of the swing
frosty herald
We going back to early darktide zealot chat
south folio
like just step through this shit by yourself and think about it logically
i don't want to baby people through arguments
i'm not here to argue for you
i'm here to argue for myself and my points
north sedge
like just keep it to the crusher and let's not bring other weapons into it just ...
Ok but in a world where the BFG 9000 exists how can crusher compete (especially with the special slowdown!)
harsh wren
so from implication, you can figure out that the infinite cleave i'm referring t...
guess im just confused. Just me.
lol
coarse birch
in this argument we are assuming the AOE is removed, that is what we are arguing for
hard nexus
not to mention hordeclear and whatnot
it might take two hits to kill one chaff, ...
if DPS is reduced then all it would really do is just make the game a slog to get through
south folio
if DPS is reduced then all it would really do is just make the game a slog to ge...
however, consider the fact that we have elite spam because of our insane DPS
hard nexus
think about back when the thunder hammer had its damage cap
south folio
you can not nerf enemy numbers without nerfing how much damage we deal
i hope that we are of the same opinion that 6-10 bulwarks is not fun
nor 10 crushers
hard nexus
think about back when the thunder hammer had its damage cap
it made killing even the smallest horde take forever
coarse birch
10 of anything really
south folio
but that's an entirely different world where the majority of weapons were dogshit
i'm not saying to go back to pre-patch 13
i'm just saying to tune things down
hard nexus
had a match where 5 bursters came out at once
south folio
you're taking what i'm saying way too much to the extreme
south folio
like god damn
there is surely some nuance in tuning numbers down
and that it doesn't mean just taking it straight to the bottom
hard nexus
right but i asked what weapons
and you didn’t answer
which is why i wanted clarification
radiant nacelle
I thought the topic was just crusher
south folio
oh cuz i was focused on the other argument
coarse birch
it was crusher
but other weapons keep getting compared
so we had to mention we also want other stuff nerfed
radiant nacelle
Zealot chat is certainly zealous today
blissful sinew
disregard current argument
play heavy evisc mk15 shroudlot
south folio
across the board, I want nerfs in general, but there's the obvious cases like psword, kickback, blessings like brutal momentum, and whatnot
we live in a world where elites can easily get neutralized in very few hits
i would prefer elites to be lower in numbers and higher in individual threat
that is the world that i strive for
radiant nacelle
Back 4 blood was designed where the specials were the threat, not the harassment. It was very very bad
I think darktide is a better balanxe
hard nexus
back 4 blood was just shit overall though
south folio
the problem with elite spam is that you can't have much nuance with numbers spam
e.g., ragers getting their undodgeable attacks nerfed
e.g., it's fun to stagger ragers with the knife stagger (normal heavy -> punch) combo
but ragers also come in groups of 10+
what's the point of doing this combo if it's completely useless in the majority of engagements with ragers
radiant nacelle
Again
You can't really not consider your team
No player or weapon is in a vacuum
south folio
what team
fleet zealot
back 4 blood was just shit overall though
i will not rant about how much i hate b4b i will not rant about how much i hate b4b
south folio
well in terms of team
i'm also an advocate of map design that encourages team splits
so there's that
frosty herald
Btw this itemizatuon rework isnt the only thing in the update
south folio
naturally i want a greater focus on being able to do stuff that requires some combo and thought
frosty herald
Well most likely get a blessing rework
hard nexus
what's the point of doing this combo if it's completely useless in the majority ...
it’s useless in most situations, no? not even considering the other ragers, most of the time you’re fighting another horde, or dodging other specials, or both. It’s fun in a vacuum but just not usable
south folio
instead of "spamming this thing with a lot of cleave or damage" without a lot of thought
south folio
it’s useless in most situations, no? not even considering the other ragers, most...
here's a demo of what i mean https://streamable.com/ti5a5p
coarse birch
yeah 10+ of stuff limits your options
south folio
in a world where ragers still had undodgeable attacks, 2 ragers would be pretty spooky
south folio
and having to do the combo is the only way to avoid damage
coarse birch
and invalidating w/e is in front of you
south folio
and i would be punished for failing the combo + hitting the weakspots to hit the necessary stagger breakpoints
or rewarded
and i want more meaningful "rewards"
i did something that required some thought and inputs and i get rewarded for it meaningfully instead me having just done it just because it was cool and that i could have just spammed dodge and not taken any damage
hard nexus
entirely unrelated but this game needs to be better optimized
clear knot
my 3090 5950 run it fine
hard nexus
dropping to 30 fps in the new map is cancer
drowsy steppe
art of this agency will be achieved by removing the locks on Blessings and Perks.
oh my
🥹
quaint verge
Psword definatly needs a nerf
south folio
so that's basically the reason why i want nerfs in elite numbers
hard nexus
my 3090 5950 run it fine
i’ve got a 6700xt, and a 7 7700x
south folio
and also cuz i want a world where blocking is relevant in melee combat
clear knot
amd gpu moment
quaint verge
left iron
ripe quest
my computer would need to get sent in to an SCP foundation if it couldn't run this past 60
left iron
Give Arco his laptop back
ripe quest
I have a masterclass gaming computer that runs any other game at 144+ so I'll be keeping it
hard nexus
i actually don’t remember what gpu i have lol
and for some reason
my fucking
AMD
drivers
aren’t installed anymore?!?!?
so i’m installing them now
coarse birch
that would help
hard nexus
i have no idea how my drivers uninstalled themselves
high pulsar
So how much worse is flamer now
radiant nacelle
Only marginally
It's not like it doesn't absolutely melt entire rooms of enemies anymore
Justmisses crushers
coarse birch
just doesnt kill crushers anymore
high pulsar
Kills everything slower and doesn’t work on crushers anymore. Neat
radiant nacelle
The speed at which you killed non-crushers is kind of irrelevant really
solar gorge
thx god i've been a based thammer/flamer enjoyer since launch
radiant nacelle
It kills anything not carelapace very quick Nerf or not
high pulsar
Ttk and ammo economy aren’t irrelevant
opaque island
thx god i've been a based thammer/flamer enjoyer since launch
💪
radiant nacelle
Time to kill is still very good on everything that isn't a crusher man
Don't get carried away
high pulsar
30-40% nerf on dps..
fast tiger
crazy how history repeats itself in 3 hour cycles
south folio
what updates does to the game discord
radiant nacelle
Flamer did not get a damage reduction lol What the heck are you talking about
fast tiger
Is this another reddit take?
97% DR vibes
high pulsar
I mean, it’s a 98% dps loss against crushers no?
radiant nacelle
And don't tell me the only time you ever used flamer was when you combined it with the dash cuz I won't hear that absolute nonsense
high pulsar
Chastise after applying burn stacks would melt everything
That is the only time I used it lmao.
fast tiger
also that margin of error is kind of obscene lol
high pulsar
Is the damage difference you got from using chastise on majority of targets
south folio
I mean, it’s a 98% dps loss against crushers no?
more of 93.33%
fast tiger
so we’re just making up numbers now is the admission
radiant nacelle
Is the damage difference you got from using chastise on majority of targets
I'm saying that even with the chastised nerf you're still getting fantastic time to kill on anything that is not a crusher
Other enemy types that are not carapace melt regardless of chastised nerf
sterile stone
my computer would need to get sent in to an SCP foundation if it couldn't run th...
Seeing graphics look like the rough draft phase of a early 2000s CGI movie hurts my soul
south folio
the concept of "good enough" does not exist in their head
high pulsar
Pal, 30-40% is a generous estimate.
south folio
flamer still has infinite cleave and will chew through the human enemies surrounding crushers
left iron
Where does this number come from lmao?
south folio
Where does this number come from lmao?
they'll answer you one day
left iron
Chastise never increased burn damage you absolute buffoon
high pulsar
Chastise never increased burn damage you absolute buffoon
So we just gaslight now?
summer flax
May it be if im always failing on weapons that require chaining h/l attacks as zealot that i have slight mental decline?
fast tiger
May it be if im always failing on weapons that require chaining h/l attacks as ...
dw in this chat you’re among peers
nocturne fjord
Is inexorable judgement still the go-to capstone for stealth zealot?
radiant nacelle
It's like your intentionally not listening. I'm saying to you that regardless of the chastised nerf even if you never use the dash button you will still melt things very very quickly that the time to kill is measured in fractions of seconds if even that
The only thing that the flamer cannot do now is crushers
left iron
So we just gaslight now?
It gave you rending in general which is a completely different thing. It never increased the actual burn damage
radiant nacelle
It still kills literally everything else very very fast
radiant nacelle
That has no relevance on how quickly things die if you don't have rending
I'm saying that even without rending things that are not crusher still die very very very very fast
south folio
It gave you rending in general which is a completely different thing. It never ...
it did bump up the burn damage cuz it was armour downgrade in general
radiant nacelle
I can write it in crayon if you'd like
frosty herald
my computer would need to get sent in to an SCP foundation if it couldn't run th...
wait a fk minute
fast tiger
i mean you two are saying the same thing effectively idk why this is the hill either of you wanna die on
frosty herald
im not crazy
high pulsar
It gave you rending in general which is a completely different thing. It never ...
You understand how stupid you look right now with this? Like you come out of the woodwork to argue something you obviously have no idea what you’re talking about
frosty herald
did fatshark really get rid of orange hitmarkers on weakspot hits
fast tiger
did fatshark really get rid of orange hitmarkers on weakspot hits
they changed the colors to differentiate weakspot and crits yeah
south folio
if you don't value the flamer anymore after that, that's fine, but that doesn't make the flamer bad
it's still gonna kill human elite patrols and run through crushers
frosty herald
its just white now
sterile stone
its just white now
They're red now I think
fast tiger
should be yellow and orange
south folio
ammo continues to not be a concern in this game if you're doing any amount of looting
radiant nacelle
And it will not kill them measurably any slower than before
I'm telling you the time to kill is basically identical
sterile stone
FS also changed the crosshair for the braced autogun
high pulsar
if you don't value the flamer anymore after that, that's fine, but that doesn't ...
Won’t damage crushers anymore.. unless that’s what you mean by “run through”
radiant nacelle
If you just want to hate on flamer then say that but don't be an asshole when people are telling you things that you clearly don't really use
south folio
Won’t damage crushers anymore.. unless that’s what you mean by “run through”
i mean it in terms of cleaving through them
fast tiger
FS also changed the crosshair for the braced autogun
didn’t a bunch of crosshairs get updated according to the patch notes
sterile stone
didn’t a bunch of crosshairs get updated according to the patch notes
Coulda been, I mostly use brace guns and the bolter
Noticed those two right away
fast tiger
this chat gets so hostile over the mildest things
fast tiger
Noticed those two right away
i noticed the plasma gun reticle gets a lot tighter right before it fires too
sterile stone
This is tame compared to how mentally unstable people use to get
north sedge
this chat gets so hostile over the mildest things
People get all anxiety angry around patches
fast tiger
i’ve been in here on and off during launch, it’s still more hostile than it should be
there’s just less femboy discourse
sterile stone
i’ve been in here on and off during launch, it’s still more hostile than it shou...
I mean you're gonna get that anywhere online tbf
A bunch of faceless anons don't really humanize each other
clear knot
@left iron this iz gud?
fast tiger
it’s just shocking how much more noticeable hostility is in zealot chat
like it’s way more even keeled in vet chat
sterile stone
it’s just shocking how much more noticeable hostility is in zealot chat
Oh buddy
fast tiger
and in og chat they’re just blowing bubbles and naming rocks
left iron
Decent-ish, @quaint verge is better than me with those
median steeple
Jamie post the og racist image
sterile stone
People literally threatening to kill devs
fast tiger
oh general chat isn’t worth discussing
clear knot
my great anngak what do i want on my bolty
fast tiger
what a hellhole
sterile stone
Jamie post the og racist image
fast tiger
<@208673746565726209> this iz gud?
looks good to me but that reload speed gonna feel bad
sterile stone
When the eddies kick in at 3 am
clear knot
not rly
median steeple
Bo reloads pretty fast already
merry flume
run n gun with the boltpistol is dumb good
median steeple
DA/surg and I run flak/maniac or flak/elites
merry flume
that extra 12% damage matters esp with anoint in blood
clear knot
a a whole, things like reload, mob, def. dont matter. mob can matter for the extra dodge if you care about that but other than that.
median steeple
Still trying to find the best combo
clear knot
dont really matter
median steeple
But even without maniac you can two two-three tap mutied and ragers
merry flume
good thing the boltpistol has a really cool reload animation
open pollen
So, what's the saucy gossy on itemization rework? How ya'll feelin' about it?
sterile stone
<@208673746565726209> this iz gud?
Got something similar to this
fast tiger
So, what's the saucy gossy on itemization rework? How ya'll feelin' about it?
imo too soon to tell but seems promising
fast tiger
deterministic loot will help assuage frustrations with a lot of people
frosty herald
So, what's the saucy gossy on itemization rework? How ya'll feelin' about it?
mildly excited
fast tiger
The new mission is so bad for them
it’s so fucking bad i thought i was going crazy
everyone splits up then dies
sullen forge
Jamie post the og racist image
Something in me wants to ask the context for this but at the same time I should stay willfully ignorant lmao
fast tiger
or doesn’t do objs and dies
clear knot
is that a jojo reference
frosty herald
i hate the barrel placement on the new map
north sedge
<@208673746565726209> this iz gud?
Yea
median steeple
The sync event is so bad for pubs no one wants to follow the pylons and it gets reset every time
sterile stone
The barrel placement in the new map hurts my soul to the fucking core
First jump down
sullen forge
New map is extremely open which makes me suffer cause I have no cover to retreat behind
frosty herald
my powersword and ironhelm will have so much xp
sullen forge
Plogyrn on the scaffold
sterile stone
New map is extremely open which makes me suffer cause I have no cover to retreat...
Bubble psykers eat good on the new map
fast tiger
Sends 3 of us flying off the map
literally my second experience on the map almost to a T
sullen forge
Don’t forget about that either
sterile stone
With the mass amount of gunners
frosty herald
100% we need more cover on the map
fast tiger
except two people managed to grab the ledge but the zealot that blasted us off the map ran past them instead of saving them, triggered a monstrosity, then died
sullen forge
Bubble psykers eat good on the new map
It’s the definition of, YOU WILL play your smoke veteran and you WILL like it to me lmao
median steeple
do do do do u wan play together
I'm fucking this yogurt up
hard nexus
lmfao
sterile stone
Funny you mention that
hard nexus
after ?!??!?!??!?!?!??!
sterile stone
Cause that's what a vet ws doing
median steeple
Sure
sterile stone
Bro was throwing smokes like a mad man
hard nexus
yay!!!
fast tiger
I'm fucking this yogurt up
based and probiotic pilled
high pulsar
100% we need more cover on the map
I agree.
sullen forge
Cause that's what a vet ws doing
It didn’t click to me till recently how smokes or bubble Psyker is nearly mandatory on this map
There’s genuinely no cover in a lot of it
sterile stone
Yeah
fast tiger
the first major obj room is a disaster zone
sterile stone
And playing musical chairs with teammates for cover ain't the move either
median steeple
Pub aurics are still bad
sullen forge
The 30 gunners making sure you will sit in the small corner
median steeple
People just leaving for titles
sterile stone
People just leaving for titles
STILL
fast tiger
i saw a trauma staff yesterday using weakspot damage perk on it
ember yew
Pub aurics are still bad
sterile stone
Jeez bruvther
sterile stone
I thought people woulda got that trash ass title and moved on by now
median steeple
Also crashing but hopefully that's Bern fixed
sullen forge
i saw a trauma staff yesterday using weakspot damage perk on it
Emperors weakest Trauma Staff user
median steeple
Until they add another yellow title it's what I'm gonna use
ember yew
I thought people woulda got that trash ass title and moved on by now
they now need more resources for crafting
sterile stone
We turn them to servitors
sullen forge
I swap between the auric titles
median steeple
And it spells ass so my lizard brain laughs
clear knot
can baby bolter get shettering and pf
sullen forge
The map completionist titles are so fire
I know I’m dangerously close with Metalfab
rustic steppe
So does point blank only count melee kills with a gun?
rustic steppe
Or with any weapon?
sterile stone
I know I’m dangerously close with Metalfab
Metal fab is the shift primaris one right?
sullen forge
Correct
median steeple
Sleepy
sterile stone
Wait huh
median steeple
So does point blank only count melee kills with a gun?
I'm pretty sure just the gun
frosty herald
smelter got some fun changes
north sedge
can baby bolter get shettering and pf
No
sullen forge
Wait huh
Yeah you know how metalfab used to be kill the 3 Daemons and sit in the corner
Gate opens you leave when smelter is on
frosty herald
i did solo a corruptor eye
sterile stone
it spawns gunners now
Oh I loved getting tossed around by a execution squad of gunners
frosty herald
double barrel W
sullen forge
Now you have to actually turn on the individual smelter parts in the corners of the map
north sedge
can baby bolter get shettering and pf
It does get bleed though so automatically the best
frosty herald
smelter is def harder now
sterile stone
Now you have to actually turn on the individual smelter parts in the corners of ...
Wait huh
Like pull a lever or something?
ember yew
smelter got some fun changes
Enclavum Baross changes are annoying tho, now 2 bridge power cores spawns like x2 far away from what it was
clear knot
It does get bleed though so automatically the best
yeah i got t4 of that off rip and was like, damn....theyre really nudging
rustic steppe
Point Blank is the worst blessing ever.
open pollen
Enclavum Baross changes are annoying tho, now 2 bridge power cores spawns like x...
Aye, I wish they made the bridges drop faster to compensate
radiant nacelle
Point Blank is the worst blessing ever.
Explain yourself
median steeple
NO
open pollen
Wasn't invis meta for zealot before? Or was it ranged chastize?
sullen forge
Looks like we're in the invis meta now folks
Always has been gif here
median steeple
no im pretty sure its just shooting close enemies
sterile stone
I dunno about invis zealot but I know invis veteran was always the shiznit
rustic steppe
But it says -melee-
drowsy steppe
Point blank is more crit chance after melee kill
radiant nacelle
No
median steeple
ah there we go
radiant nacelle
And get crit chance there
rustic steppe
Okay, I am wrong then.
sullen forge
Wait they finally reworked point blank
radiant nacelle
It is super rad for fast switching guns like revolver
drowsy steppe
Right I didn't add after switching
sullen forge
Bless the God Emperor
frosty herald
sterile stone
Everyone
Pray with me
We get the new uniforms tomorrow
Enforcer armor tomorrow
sullen forge
This has been a summary of what I’ve seen complaint wise with these logs and updates lmao
open pollen
Aye, I got a mustard stain on my old one
median steeple
hopefully but they're gonna be "special
" so they cost more
solar gorge
they will
sterile stone
They confirmed the enforcer armors are next?
frosty herald
I love the media dude just saying "bruh"
sullen forge
Enforcer armor tomorrow
If you don’t use the Shaul or Crusher I will be disappointed
median steeple
They confirmed the enforcer armors are next?
you can see all of the sets now
solar gorge
They confirmed the enforcer armors are next?
i mean we got patch, no more "spcial" skins in the store
median steeple
zealot, psyker, and og
drowsy steppe
Shaul
sterile stone
you can see all of the sets now
I've posted them
solar gorge
and we have them ready to go in the files
drowsy steppe
Shaul Goodman
median steeple
no it's the SAUL
sterile stone
But that doesn't mean they'll release them
solar gorge
it does trust me
solar gorge
my gruncle works at fatshark
sullen forge
I’m calling it the Shaul and I’m sticking to it
sterile stone
I've posted unreleased commodre's stuff before and they just refused to add it into the game for like 2 months
drowsy steppe
My mom
median steeple
solar gorge
yeah but they added the entire sets for all classes in today's hotfix
that's a telltale sign
sterile stone
That was there yesterday you goober trooper
solar gorge
not in their final form
sterile stone
Wait what
nocturne fjord
Are there any must have skills for zealot?
solar gorge
they're not just black anymore
solar gorge
they're dark blue with yellow touches
median steeple
they're not just black anymore
post em
drowsy steppe
Being good at the game
sterile stone
FUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
solar gorge
now come on
sterile stone
The all black enforcer outfits went hard man
solar gorge
the full black looked like dogshit
sterile stone
Bro no way
median steeple
Holy shit palanite enforcers from necromunda
drowsy steppe
Enforcer armor?
sterile stone
Yessir
sterile stone
Enforcers are basically cops
solar gorge
they're super cops
sterile stone
Ye
solar gorge
federal agents
median steeple
kind of but they can be owned by nobles
solar gorge
yeah and no
median steeple
no federal agents are arbites
drowsy steppe
Anything that doesn't make my zealot look like a fucking Taliban warrior
median steeple
enforcers are local police
median steeple
or state cops
sullen forge
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1153279327513886770/1255559366783008848...
I know Vet is the stock one but it just goes so fucking hard
median steeple
Enforcers can also be a private police force for corrupt nobles
sterile stone
Veteran also has that really scuffed headgear with the microphone jammed in his throat with only the top part of his mouth still left
That shit is gross
median steeple
what does the psyker one look like I heard it looked bad
sterile stone
Really?
solar gorge
yeah
fast tiger
aren’t arbiters most likely where the rejects scrounged their bolters from
sterile stone
what does the psyker one look like I heard it looked bad
Gimmie a sec to log on
median steeple
Veteran also has that really scuffed headgear with the microphone jammed in his ...
finally grimdark cosmetics
drowsy steppe
Veteran also has that really scuffed headgear with the microphone jammed in his ...
That one is horrible
fast tiger
like the astartes bolters would blow our arms off and sisters of battle are unlikely to have been on tertium
median steeple
aren’t arbiters most likely where the rejects scrounged their bolters from
godwyns are used by everyone that isnt space marines
frosty herald
Arbiters if judge dredd was your normal police force
sterile stone
I wonder if a boltie pistol skin will drop tomorrow
fast tiger
ah gotcha i wondered if the ecclisarchy had special bolters for their forces
solar gorge
ngl i expected a commissar skin for vet since they added a bolt pistol because larp but
fast tiger
and didn’t know if the guard was canonically entrusted with bolters because they’re like, relics
solar gorge
i guess that logic works with the shock mauls too
drowsy steppe
We have a commissar set already
frosty herald
Zealot just has a book strapped to the forehead
sterile stone
Well the Griswald jacket technically is the commisar outfit
oak geyser
Hows the new hit stick? Any good?
ivory marlin
gamers
gloomy moth
does anyone here use crit builds often? didn't see anything in the patch notes about it, but this perk used to proc 1.5s off cooldown for each enemy hit on a crit now it only procs 1.5s per crit regardless of how many enemies hit. it has taken away the ability to dash in a horde and potentially get a charge back off a single swing. cleave crit cooldown builds gonzo
sterile stone
Sceptia did hint that FS might take another crack at the commisar outfit
median steeple
Godwyns are also used by space marines but the one everyone else uses is the scaled down version, and the space marines use bolter carbines now with primaris marines
sterile stone
I hope they do
median steeple
We have a commissar set already
it aint that good ngl
sullen forge
Zealot just has a book strapped to the forehead
If there isn’t candles or books it’s not Zealot, lmao
ivory marlin
dying light is 10$
solar gorge
Well the Griswald jacket technically is the commisar outfit
we have a "proper" commissar fit but it's dogshit
drowsy steppe
does anyone here use crit builds often? didn't see anything in the patch notes a...
Its now per swing. Not on how many enemies you hit now
fast tiger
does anyone here use crit builds often? didn't see anything in the patch notes a...
yeah it was accidentally missed in the patch notes but the language was posted in this chat earlier
solar gorge
i own it
north sedge
does anyone here use crit builds often? didn't see anything in the patch notes a...
It wqs changed yes, intended
open pollen
If there isn’t candles or books it’s not Zealot, lmao
Zealot permanently typecast as "freak" or "firehazard" nothing else
median steeple
it's so bad
drowsy steppe
Wasn't mentioned in the patch notes previously
frosty herald
Godwyns are also used by space marines but the one everyone else uses is the sca...
GODWYN??
median steeple
RAAAAAAAAH
drowsy steppe
Zealot permanently typecast as "freak" or "firehazard" nothing else
Freaky class
frosty herald
ELDEN RING MENTIONED WTF IS A HAPPY ENDING!!!
fast tiger
Godwyns are also used by space marines but the one everyone else uses is the sca...
so are bolter carbines like the in between? i don’t know how big primaris marines are
sullen forge
we have a "proper" commissar fit but it's dogshit
Seeing I’m one who prefers making specific commissar outfits I use for the drip for my Build
cunning knoll
Freaky class
𝓯𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓴𝔂
fast tiger
i’ve only read the first horus book and the first two eisenhorn books
gloomy moth
alright, thanks for replying
frosty herald
so are bolter carbines like the in between? i don’t know how big primaris marine...
Inbetween
Primaris bolters would blow you up
open pollen
Zealots be like "I put this birdcage on my head to represent my faith" and people just go with it
frosty herald
Awhh hell nah
sullen forge
Zealot permanently typecast as "freak" or "firehazard" nothing else
Hell will freeze over the moment Zealot gets a normal standard issue uniform
frosty herald
Fuck outta here diddy 2.0
median steeple
DrDiddle!?
fast tiger
Zealots be like "I put this birdcage on my head to represent my faith" and peopl...
it just makes sense ™️
sterile stone
Fuck outta here diddy 2.0
open pollen
it just makes sense ™️
It still has the bird in it.
fast tiger
Primaris bolt carbine
outside of the scope i’m not sure i’m noting the difference
sterile stone
A scoped bolter for vet would be nice
fast tiger
https://tenor.com/view/micolash-cybervist-gio-bloodborne-gif-18463493
fuck this boss
median steeple
outside of the scope i’m not sure i’m noting the difference
rails, longer barrel, and bigger
fast tiger
STOP RUNNING AND LET ME HIT YOU
sullen forge
A scoped bolter for vet would be nice
Veterans breaking their arms upon attempting shooting a normal bolter
fast tiger
Veterans breaking their arms upon attempting shooting a normal bolter
meanwhile all the lore snobs c*m at the accuracy
median steeple
primaris are like a head taller and are decently bigger than first born space marines
open pollen
STOP RUNNING AND LET ME HIT YOU
Pretty sure this boss single-handidly inspired that one kartborne game
frosty herald
Veterans breaking their arms upon attempting shooting a normal bolter
We have the catachan general that uses a heavy bolter
fast tiger
yeah but catachans are literally built different
median steeple
catachan should not be what we base normal people off of
sullen forge
We have the catachan general that uses a heavy bolter
He simply does not care that’s how he gets away with it lmao
open pollen
We have the catachan general that uses a heavy bolter
I bet they fire it like Rambo
open pollen
Eazy read, everything the catachans do is like Rambo
median steeple
peak writing
sterile stone
We built different
fast tiger
so does it go roughly like astartes > primaris > custodes in terms of size
just trying to understand
i should probably just google
sullen forge
Like I’m a firm enjoyer of the people who surround you in vehicles, exit says vehicles, beat you to death, get back in and then leave
median steeple
white scars in a nutshell
fast tiger
i’d be so down with a bow but realistically who would be most suited to use it
sterile stone
I'm genuienly curious if anyone bought any of the carmine sets
spare dome
ogryn
fast tiger
fuck it give it to ogryns yeah
open pollen
Zealot and veteran.
spare dome
he wouldnt shoot it just beat you with it
frosty herald
I'm genuienly curious if anyone bought any of the carmine sets
chinese people probably
fast tiger
ogryn shooting whole lampposts at heretics
open pollen
Zealot because knighty and vet because ramboy
sullen forge
Love my Steel Legion
median steeple
The all black patrol armor is gone
all my apes gone.....
frosty herald
The all black patrol armor is gone
the what
sterile stone
open pollen
all my apes gone.....
Nooo, not your apes!
sterile stone
This right here is fucking nightmare fuel
open pollen
Also, disconcerting thing for a zookeeper to say
fast tiger
This right here is fucking nightmare fuel
this one makes me so uncomfortable
open pollen
This right here is fucking nightmare fuel
what would YOU do for a klondike bar?
gusty orbit
This right here is fucking nightmare fuel
adam smasher from temu
frosty herald
This right here is fucking nightmare fuel
using this to freak out other players
median steeple
This right here is fucking nightmare fuel
he looks like he's having a good time
open pollen
nom-nom-nom
frosty herald
yall are gonna see an arco flaggelant
median steeple
still waiting for the blue and gold scion chest man
sterile stone
It's the teeth man
median steeple
maybe in 3 years
frosty herald
argus can you show the soundbite from how the voice sounds
fast tiger
argus can you show the soundbite from how the voice sounds
sounds like marlon brando from the godfather, weirdly enough
sterile stone
argus can you show the soundbite from how the voice sounds
Can't equip it
ripe quest
My internet: Slightly bad
My gameplay: No longer have agency over my movement
I can't swap weapons
Enemies literally spawn on me
90% of attacks are ghost hits (ie I can't FUCKING kill specials AHAHHHAHHHHHHHH)
Desyncing
Forced to rejoin the game every 5 minutes
Randomly take damage, can't avoid overheads, need to DPS shooters because anti-shooter movement in non-functional
very very cool very enjoyable gameplay neat mhm I pay $130 a month for this internet
frosty herald
is it the super deep mechanical voice like with the halo
maiden path
someone on reddit found dis in da code...
sterile stone
still waiting for the blue and gold scion chest man
Added to the game and never got touched once it got added
maiden path
maybe thats why all this content is taking forever!
median steeple
Added to the game and never got touched once it got added
sullen forge
I completely forgot about PS5 players I won’t lie
sterile stone
inspect show on player preview voice
This was a traumatizing experience
median steeple
WHY DOESNT IT HAVE GLOVES
fast tiger
afaik there isn’t a ps5 version
median steeple
WHY
frosty herald
SHOW IT TO ME
sterile stone
I don't have any recording software
open pollen
Yo, this discussion totally predicted the new map btw
frosty herald
you have a nvidia card?
fast tiger
you don’t have nvidia shadowplay?
sterile stone
Yeeees
frosty herald
alt+z
sterile stone
I don't think I do
open pollen
And in my opinion? Just a cool as I thought it'd be
open pollen
I like being under and ending up over even if we're still below what's above but above what's below
sullen forge
afaik there isn’t a ps5 version
I think I gaslit myself into thinking there was a PS5 version
Explains why I never see them lmao
open pollen
Also, glad they finally perfected sideways elevator technology
open pollen
one step close to the fabled train level
median steeple
Augh !
frosty herald
HAHAHAHHHAHAHAHA
median steeple
ok so it's the zealot headpiece filter
frosty herald
THIS WILL BE GLORIOUS
spare dome
welcome, to the black mesa admech scientific research facility.
sullen forge
God the teeth move with it, VILE
median steeple
EWWWWWW WHAT TEH FUCK
sterile stone
It's got that extra Brit value to it
open pollen
They're Swedish, this is normal to them
maiden path
need
frosty herald
finally
median steeple
goblin shark maxxing
frosty herald
the cracklot will be real
sterile stone
Bro got bendy teeth
sterile stone
I am grossed out
median steeple
teeth are pretty bendy
open pollen
https://tenor.com/view/shark-eating-fish-prey-predator-gif-7975485
Homer Simpson energy
frosty herald
i absolutely love this just disgusting body horror
median steeple
(if you dont take care of them)
fast tiger
Bro got bendy teeth
to be expected when you can’t brush them because of the giant speaker lodged in your jaw
oak cargo
https://tenor.com/view/shark-eating-fish-prey-predator-gif-7975485
everything reminds me of him 😔
open pollen
(if you dont take care of them)
They turn flaccid?
sterile stone
to be expected when you can’t brush them because of the giant speaker lodged in ...
This means he has either weak gums
Or loose teeth
fast tiger
flaccid teeth is a horrifying combination of words
sullen forge
Or loose teeth
I think it’s this
frosty herald
we need to know the dude who created this cosmetic lmao
open pollen
But is "erect teeth" any better?
fast tiger
isn’t that just basically baleen
frosty herald
its from launch but if its coming now
sullen forge
They had to jam that down their mouth basically
sterile stone
My question is, what happens if the thing starts to rust?
median steeple
YOUR TEETH SHOULD ALWAYS BE ERECT!
sterile stone
HOW DOES HE EAT
sullen forge
My question is, what happens if the thing starts to rust?
Extra flavor
sterile stone
Extra flavor
median steeple
please talk to your dentist if you're experiencing ED for your teeth
fast tiger
But is "erect teeth" any better?
my strong, erect, American teeth
idk feels like a normal phrase to me
open pollen
YOUR TEETH SHOULD ALWAYS BE ERECT!
My teeth are so hard right now guys
median steeple
frosty herald
Imagine going to a denstist
tomorrow
sterile stone
"I just can't get them up like I use to"
frosty herald
i wanna kms
open pollen
My teeth are fully erect, ready to get down on that Glizzy
median steeple
this shit is so floppy my homie 😭
frosty herald
not doing any anasthetic because im traumatized from getting an injection inside of my mouth
sterile stone
I'm still mad this never released
sullen forge
https://tenor.com/view/baking-anime-baki-anime-fight-apple-fritter-gif-19725296
https://tenor.com/view/baki-yujiro-hanma-apple-fritters-bakery-display-case-gif-18039195561141412848
open pollen
not doing any anasthetic because im traumatized from getting an injection inside...
I had toe surgery on both feet over a decade ago and I still feel the needles in my skin where they administered the numbing agent.
fast tiger
i just got a shot in my palm like 4 hours ago
maiden path
My teeth are flaccid dog I need help
laame
oak cargo
maybe the needles are still there
fast tiger
it sucked
maiden path
i pump my teeth up with a bike pump
sterile stone
i just got a shot in my palm like 4 hours ago
Those were the nanomachine injections
You're gonna start regening lost organs like an axolotl now
fast tiger
Those were the nanomachine injections
hell ya
oak cargo
me and the homies sharing our needles because we care about the environment 🥰
fast tiger
the weakness of flesh disgusts me
open pollen
i pump my teeth up with a bike pump
Imagine over-pumpin' your teeth and they pop
Just, straight up explode
median steeple
The moment I first witnessed the interlopers
oak cargo
edging my teeth everyday by brushing
median steeple
RAAAAAAH I NEED MECHANICUS 2 NOW!
open pollen
edging my teeth everyday by brushing
gotta keep the edges of your teeth sharp. Good for chewin
sullen forge
edging my teeth everyday by brushing
God this hurts reading
maiden path
filled me sisters face with teeth
median steeple
there is a gif of teeth breathing
maiden path
nyhoom
median steeple
I just gotta find it
nimble fiber
sullen forge
Grabbing scalding hot metal
open pollen
Eating a cactus
frosty herald
my mango
quaint verge
<a:skeledance:1226788055797596210>
frosty herald
is to blow up
oak cargo
bro should be in shark tale with those gnashers
sullen forge
Stabbing yourself in the leg
sterile stone
https://tenor.com/view/metal-teeth-bite-shark-gif-18208589354498927658
Man Riff Raff just vanished into the air
median steeple
i've hard that cacti taster pretty good
nimble fiber
fast tiger
https://tenor.com/view/kitty-cat-cactus-weard-funny-gif-5886324
me when the ***** a lil hairy
that was supposed to be five asterisks
oak cargo
fair play to jay slater went from being lost in tenerife to getting impaled on a cactus generally sound bloke as well
sterile stone
me when the ***** a lil hairy
median steeple
BALOOON
fast tiger
completely normal gif
open pollen
Corn kinda look like teeth huh
nimble fiber
fast tiger
Corn kinda look like teeth huh
teeth kinda look like corn
sullen forge
fuck trying to get a good double barrel
Me trying to get a good Shock Maul
sterile stone
fuck trying to get a good double barrel
median steeple
holy it's man
oak cargo
me when instead of saying "good morning" to the teacher i say "Bad Morning 😈 "
frosty herald
The darth malgus headgear
median steeple
THE GOAT!
fast tiger
“did you make sure to implant it between my hairline and eyebrows and not overlapping my eyebrows?” “uhhhhh yeah looks great man”
median steeple
sullen forge
me when instead of saying "good morning" to the teacher i say "Bad Morning 😈 "
God help you if they say “freaky morning”
sterile stone
median steeple
sterile stone
It reminds me of the blue headgear you get in Old World Blues
sullen forge
I despise you I just spit out my water at work cause of you 😡😡😡😡
median steeple
haha
placid fiber
hard nexus
haha
sterile stone
median steeple
secret faith attack
sullen forge
His baldness holds the papers in place
quaint verge
<a:bro_what:1237430325857222696>
median steeple
glass pelican
Howdy, quick question what blessings are recommended for the double barrel
fast tiger
brutal momentum adhesive charge
median steeple
placid fiber
So, what do we think of the itemization rework?
hard nexus
Howdy, quick question what blessings are recommended for the double barrel
lacerate
austere grail
Everyone seems to take both barrels
hard nexus
psycho r we gonna play or do u want me to kms
median steeple
double barrel as many good blessing bombos
grave topaz
so it looks like the tiny shock maul can infinetly stagger enemies even crushers with special lol
median steeple
like the doom build
median steeple
psycho r we gonna play or do u want me to kms
waiting for you dumbass
hard nexus
i was waiting for you
to finish ur yogurt!!!
this is NOT my fault
i’m gonna kill you,
fast tiger
i do recall the yogurt eating
placid fiber
FINISH YOUR GODDAMN YOGURT!
frosty herald
Almhadullah the book will float
hard nexus
inshallah he is wimpy
hard nexus
im on the game right now
kk gimme a sec
frosty herald
Wahali im finished
placid fiber
i’m gonna finish
😳
median steeple
maiden path
he's so fucking cool
placid fiber
i've been finished!
😏
maiden path
jack my love
maiden path
JACKS MEAT
maiden path
median steeple
nooooooooo they fixed the funny N/A bug
maiden path
placid fiber
https://tenor.com/view/kengan-ashura-baki-jack-hanma-bites-kure-raian-gif-175780...
tasty
frosty herald
the daughter of the baki author is the creator of beastars
so the apple doesnt fall far from the tree in terms of weird manga
maiden path
he's too fucking swag
merry flume
frosty herald
luna crunch
marsh hill
been doing disruptive missions for 6 missions i aint updating and i am THAT close
been on 49/50 since afternoon wtf
nocturne fjord
Does full bore effect the shot that triggers it or is it only follow up attacks?
north sedge
The shot that triggers
nocturne fjord
Thank you
placid fiber
The shot that triggers
So, how are the shock mauls?
I'm thinking of playing some Darktide this weekend to chip some of the rust away
maiden path
JACK NOOOOOOO
visual stream
So, how are the shock mauls?
balls-tazing pilled
placid fiber
Nice
north sedge
So, how are the shock mauls?
Haven't used em yet
visual stream
I wonder if the shock status does more damage to flak and carapace, would be cool
placid fiber
I wonder if the shock status does more damage to flak and carapace, would be coo...
That would be a neat little feature
latent vortex
I wonder if the shock status does more damage to flak and carapace, would be coo...
The actual penetration is insane anyways
90% cara and over 100% flak
visual stream
holeh moleh
placid fiber
The main things I want to try out are the shock mauls and the pickaxes
visual stream
So against flak it technically does do more damage than if they had no armor?
fleet zealot
i wish the 2nd mission wasn't so ranged corridor heavy
merry flume
if the shock maul has high pen wouldn't a stealth build actually be really good on it 
placid fiber
i wish the 2nd mission wasn't so ranged corridor heavy
Isn't that a problem one of the newer maps had?
Large open spaces for you to get shot at by ranged enemies you couldn't see
I don't mean the newest maps
I mean one of previous new ones
fleet zealot
Isn't that a problem one of the newer maps had?
kinda? but here it's tighter
placid fiber
Oof
fleet zealot
it is an experimental map but if i'm not playing for ranged it feels like im doomed to be peppered to death
placid fiber
OOF
Makes it sound like my weekend to chip off some of my rust is gonna be a painful one lol
fleet zealot
it's not terrible
it's just terrible xd
i see hwat they are doing tho and I don't want them to stop experimenting with new maps
placid fiber
the ninth circle of hell
Eh, sounds more like just the 7th circle
fleet zealot
it just feels like the new weapons are not good here
placid fiber
the 9th is bulwark and mauler gangs
And I mean the way bulwarks used to be, as well, lol
hushed knoll
Hello Drake pill
placid fiber
lol
hushed knoll
Darkpill
misty nova
On a side note, you can ledge DH pretty easily due to where they spawn lmao
hushed knoll
hushed knoll
placid fiber
placid fiber
<a:leaves:958803229855088670>
wait, no, come back! I was gonna tell you about my broccoli and tar tar sauce soup!
hushed knoll
Tar tar sauce?
merry flume
even without mods i keep getting 2014'ed in the middle of a mission
so eldy ring it is
placid fiber
Tar tar sauce?
Well yeah, cause ranch is so last century
open pollen
Which of these should I invest in?
open pollen
even without mods i keep getting 2014'ed in the middle of a mission
A good year, a bad error.
hushed agate
Which of these should I invest in?
Id say right
hard nexus
Which of these should I invest in?
right
clear knot
maiden path
no context this is so funny
frosty herald
kendrick making a crip and blood dance together by shitting on drake
frosty herald
no context this is so funny
we got mewing yujiro before gta 6
maiden path
he's so fucking cool
open pollen
So this is what would happen if everyone in the world had crazy cheek bones?
open pollen
It kinda gives me "Anchient Japanese Oni Art" vibes. You know what I mean? I donnae know the correct term for the style
frosty herald
when itagaki puts in effort the art goes crazy
maiden path
yujiros supposed to look like a lion i know that
frosty herald
It kinda gives me "Anchient Japanese Oni Art" vibes. You know what I mean? I don...
yuijiro has the title of "ogre" in baki
maiden path
like akuma
open pollen
Wait, are these examples of low effort or high effort?
open pollen
I should probably read more manga, I only read junji ito
maiden path
open pollen
I just don't like, what, 90% of the common tropes
frosty herald
open pollen
Neck as wide as head. No... wider
Must be real hard to decapitate folks in this universe
Like chopping down tree
maiden path
frosty herald
maiden path
i NEED MORE
open pollen
i NEED MORE
So, did he step forward with his left leg and punch with his right hand?
frosty herald
So, did he step forward with his left leg and punch with his right hand?
he gave a massive haymaker like hanayama
open pollen
Or, did he step BACK with his right leg while punching with his right arm
frosty herald
punched him square in the face
open pollen
I can see that, I'm just trying to imagine what this would look like in motion
maiden path
Or, did he step BACK with his right leg *while* punching with his right arm
right leg on the backfoot to let him get momentum
left leg forward so he can step forward
full nebula
anyone have build recommendations for shockmaul? looking to run chorus+immolations
median steeple
hishock on the new map is crazy