boltpistol has some funky blessings
#zealot-class
sturdy knoll
gonna be my new favorite zealot ranged weapon
solar gorge
sounds fun on paper
sturdy knoll
seems pretty good in the psykanium, but that doesnt always translate well to in-game
prisma sigil
Bro theres no fucking way
mental coral
Hello zealot chat, long time since I ran darktide, how game this update
north sedge
Crit cdr is capped to one a swing
ashen quartz
Hello zealot chat, long time since I ran darktide, how game this update
servers still suck but the new map is cool and i'm enjoying some of the new weapons
mental coral
aye yo? crit CDR isn't cheesy now?
ornate bone
Crit cdr is capped to one a swing
wait what
mental coral
servers still suck but the new map is cool and i'm enjoying some of the new weap...
sweet. Any new psyker weapons?
prisma sigil
sweet. Any new psyker weapons?
all three new human weapons are for psyker, zealot, and vet
ashen quartz
sweet. Any new psyker weapons?
all humans got bolt pistol, double barrel shotgun, and sauls
obsidian ore
Scourge talent is not working in some conditions, needs testing
ornate bone
wait there new talents too?
north sedge
No
ripe quest
psyker finally has shotgun again?
man-stopper assail
obsidian ore
Scourge doesn't seem to stack up sometimes
Even when you're %100 hitting a bleeding enemy repeatedly
Tested with Eviscerator and Devil's Claw sword
No buffs for scourge
no stacks after repeated crits
even if the other crit related blessing do work
vast basin
How about in a real game though? Psyk is not to be trusted
obsidian ore
In the real game it's not working as well
noticed in game
that's why testing in psyk
Lacerate and flesh tearer does work
thunderhammer doesn't seem to be working either
vast basin
So basically a weapon needs a bleed blessing for scourge to work right now?
obsidian ore
As far as I can tell, needs more testing %100
Maybe its a UI issue but doesnt feel like it
you are not critting enough
mental coral
Holy shit
obsidian ore
Flesh tearer is working as you can see
ornate bone
Crit cdr also gutted to one proc per swing
this is 50 million times more gutting than the chastise nerf
obsidian ore
look at th estacks
vast basin
this is 50 million times more gutting than the chastise nerf
Debatable
ancient ivy
I'm sad that small power maul doesn't have a shield, give us Zealots a shield damnit
north sedge
CDR has been a huge balance issue for a long time
mental coral
What blessings I want on shotgun btw?
sturdy knoll
THE BOLT PISTOL FEELS SOOO GOOOOOOOOOD
radiant nacelle
Crit cdr also gutted to one proc per swing
Can you expand on this? What do you mean exactly?
vast basin
Can you expand on this? What do you mean exactly?
Before patch you could proc Crit cdr on every enemy that you hit in the same swing. Now it's a max of one proc per swing
radiant nacelle
Ohhh
fervent geode
Pals is invocation of death has bug now? It seems like the crit cooldown only applies once
vast basin
Pals is invocation of death has bug now? It seems like the crit cooldown only ap...
Literally read a few messages up
vast basin
Probably intended
radiant nacelle
Or it's an intended change
vast basin
That doesn't mean shit
radiant nacelle
It's fatshark man
ember yew
Before patch you could proc Crit cdr on every enemy that you hit in the same swi...
so they really nerfed it?
vast basin
It's fs
radiant nacelle
Get on the train
ember yew
fervent geode
um...
mental coral
A decent amount of people thought crit CDR was unbalanced as shit and should've had an internal cooldown a while back
so maybe its intended
ornate bone
grrrr shatfark
north sedge
Intended
misty nova
And no notes smh
vast basin
It does hurt to have these two nerfs on the same patch
radiant nacelle
But hey they fixed point blank
radiant nacelle
Revolver life can be fully realized
obsidian ore
It's inconsistent what's happening with Scourge, sometimes it works sometimes it doesn'T
radiant nacelle
Nah not really a lot of nerfs
obsidian ore
I've no idea what exactly is going on with Scourge so it needs more testing, lmk if you do some
radiant nacelle
The cdr one is very significant imo but the fotf one is not that big of a deal
fleet zealot
ehh, we knew it was happen, they were overtuned
ember yew
Nah not really a lot of nerfs
- hammer from 30% to 5%
- chastise
- Crit CDR
- Brutal Momentum (indirect nerf)
radiant nacelle
That's like all thAt happened lol
ember yew
maybe there's something else i forgot
radiant nacelle
Brutal momentum isn't a zealot nerf
ember yew
it does impact zealot though
north sedge
🤔
radiant nacelle
Hammer impact is very whatever I doubt it'll do much in practical play. But sure call it a nerf I guess
frail belfry
Crit cdr (if intended) just makes knife better
north sedge
🤔
vast basin
No it doesn't?
ember yew
vast basin
Unless you mean better compared to other Crit weps
frail belfry
i do.
frail belfry
yeah, but essentially knife is now 5% ult back per swing, instead of 10, wheras new evis for example went from 50-100 ult back per swing to 5
(assuming enough shit to cleave through)
north sedge
🤔
radiant nacelle
I think a better way to look at it is faster swinging weapons aren't as impacted as slower swinging weapns
sterile stone
Why are there so many barrels in this got damn mission
radiant nacelle
Again making attack speed incredible in Tide games
frail belfry
mmhmm
ember yew
Why are there so many barrels in this got damn mission
to add additional hidden enemy
your teammates
ashen quartz
new situational awareness farm spot
ripe quest
Flesh tearer is working as you can see
A whopping 50 damage 🙂
From the sounds of it, internal CD for crit CDR was set to 1.5s.
radiant nacelle
So every 1.5s you can recover 1.5s of your cooldown back?
ember yew
i just tested it with a knife
obsidian ore
i just tested it with a knife
yea no internal cooldown as far as I can tell, just one enemy per swing that procs the talent
sterile basalt
From the sounds of it, internal CD for crit CDR was set to 1.5s.
Can’t be
That means you get attacks that have 0 proc
ashen quartz
am I missing something or is it not worth running a saul over a crusher on zealot besides the novelty factor
steep flame
thank you brunt for giving me a decent one off the bat
vast basin
am I missing something or is it not worth running a saul over a crusher on zealo...
Well you may be missing the fact that crusher was nerfed
radiant nacelle
Lol what happened to crusher?
vast basin
AS reduced I believe
frosty herald
Imagine how goated the new bolt pistol would be if lethal proximity and the bleed blessing synergized
ashen quartz
i thought they nerfed the crusher enemy type attack speed
radiant nacelle
AS reduced I believe
Bc like 1% attack speed is hardly worth caring about, but 10% very much is. Values matter for this
ashen quartz
I don't think they touched the crusher weapon at all looking at the patch notes with ctrl-F
sterile basalt
Bc like 1% attack speed is hardly worth caring about, but 10% very much is. Val...
Hard to quantify rn because different attacks have different combo chain time value
radiant nacelle
I don't think they touched the crusher weapon at all looking at the patch notes ...
Undocumented changes happen all the time unfortunately
vast basin
Well I could be wrong as I haven't tried it yet
ashen quartz
true
manic token
so crit cdr talent only worth on stuff like knife and tac axe now? :[
radiant nacelle
Well I could be wrong as I haven't tried it yet
Oh. So we don't know if it's actually nerfed then
Any crusher mains can comment on how it feels?
ashen quartz
feels about the same in the psykanium but the psykanium is weird sometimes
frozen crystal
Someone in psyker chat just tried it and confirmed
frozen crystal
Well, as confirmed ad you can get with someone saying it haha
bold dirge
One message removed from a suspended account.
frozen crystal
Psykers can't use crushers
Oh, thought you meant the cdr thing
He was testing that out as a zealot
Azrael was saying the things about crusher nerf. In vet chat
vast basin
Hmm he is usually a trustworthy source
ashen quartz
oh my god it feels so weird now
vast basin
Rip crusher then 
frosty herald
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5ofVsxTPoc
hey beb
the ogryn pickaxe has the billhook special
pulls enemies in
vast basin
And now my stealth caxe build can't one hit 4 crushers at once
woeful pecan
One message removed from a suspended account.
maiden path
the ogryn pickaxe has the billhook special
but it aint no billhook is it..
and u gotta play ogryn........
prisma sigil
Ogryn is based
frosty herald
median steeple
god what happened to the plasteel drops
used to getting 600 every game now its down to 300-400
prisma sigil
I have to confess
median steeple
Ogryns got eyelashes now
im sorry what?
prisma sigil
The new maul and bolt pistol feel very mid
frosty herald
No joke look at ogryn now
spare talon
I love coming back from the patch notes from a "aw damn" nerf with punishment and "a second nerf has hit the zealot sir" with fotf
But now learning that secretly crusher and crit cdr was nerfed
hushed badge
god what happened to the plasteel drops
Amount of plasteel in missions is fixed according to difficulty, if you’re getting less it’s because you’re not finding all of it. Damnation gives like 1200ish if you QP and get all the idols
merry flume
I love coming back from the patch notes from a "aw damn" nerf with punishment an...
backstab cdr my beloved
ashen quartz
the crusher feels downright glacial now
median steeple
Sir there's been a second zealot nerf
spare talon
Sir there's been a second zealot nerf
Exactly
median steeple
Amount of plasteel in missions is fixed according to difficulty, if you’re getti...
I feel like we're scraping every corner of each map on auric damn and barely hitting 600
aight back to bolt pistol gaming
Im too poor to roll a double barrel
spare talon
Crit cdr nerf really telling me I shouldn't go piety anymore with dclaw and suck it up with momentum
radiant nacelle
Yeah I might switch over to momentum
That's all I used piety for anyway tbh
But momentum isn't bad or anythkng
spare talon
Certainly not
But 15-25% crit chance is not really worth the points now, esp when you can already have scourge and shred for 50% without much investment
woeful pecan
What a shame. Endless charging was so much fun
spare talon
Knives aren't really affected TOO much by it though, neither are tac axes, but who's fucking using tac aces
manic token
so now chastise + right keystone that i forgot the name of seems like the play? i guess you get the movement speed/dodge ranged while sprinting talent too if you go that route
spare talon
You'll still charge plenty I suspect
I mean the slower your attack speed, the less valuable it is now
buoyant pewter
So wait is eviscerator dead
My friend is telling me since the changes to the zealot tree it kinda is
radiant nacelle
I mean the slower your attack speed, the less valuable it is now
Momentum stonks
buoyant pewter
I was running fotf with BP side
spare talon
I'm sure if you actually look at how many swings it takes against 1 enemy, it's really not that meaningful outside of really high atk speed
radiant nacelle
Holy shit gamers. A change that reduces effectiveness does not mean dead lmao
buoyant pewter
Yk what I’ll just send my build
buoyant pewter
Holy shit gamers. A change that reduces effectiveness does not mean dead lmao
Hey not coming from me Tbf came from my friend
ashen quartz
lmao is scourge not stacking correctly now
radiant nacelle
You just said evis is dead
spare talon
lmao is scourge not stacking correctly now
What
onyx sun
whats the best melee perks for zealot?
buoyant pewter
You just said evis is dead
I said “Is eviscerator dead”
I asked
I haven’t even started playing yet
radiant nacelle
Oh, I didn't see a question mark lol
ashen quartz
What
it might just be the tooltip but i'm not seeing stacks increment properly in the psykanium (but I know the psykanium can be odd sometimes)
radiant nacelle
Evis is not dead, but it's cool down cycling strength is kneecapped
But it's not dead
woeful pecan
lmao is scourge not stacking correctly now
Scourge looks fine to me
fleet zealot
these zealot nerfs are gonna separate the faithful from the pretenders
spare talon
it might just be the tooltip but i'm not seeing stacks increment properly in the...
I've noticed buffs not showing for the longest time, it's inconsistent whether it actually shows but even if it doesn't, it's active
buoyant pewter
these zealot nerfs are gonna separate the faithful from the pretenders
My friend almost made me lose faith
I remain
fleet zealot
it's like the zealots who made a 
of themselves after the holy revenant nerf wtih the talent update
ashen quartz
I've noticed buffs not showing for the longest time, it's inconsistent whether i...
okay, i'm not usually a scourge gamer so I got a little concerned there
radiant nacelle
Day 1 reactions are just day 1 reactions man
median steeple
pubs kicking my ass
radiant nacelle
Don't lose your darn mind over someone crying
buoyant pewter
Day 1 reactions are just day 1 reactions man
Yea I should’ve known better
I play warframe and I’ve seen Reddit
spare talon
I am a little peeved about the fotf nerf tho, there isn't much zealot has to deal with armor unless you explicitly use anti-armor weapons
misty nova
Evis is not dead, now the enemies hit by the Evis....
ember yew
it's like the zealots who made a <:clown_hadron:1067589799361400862> of themselv...
you mean the nerf from 100% to 25%?
spare talon
And it still required an ability use too
buoyant pewter
I am a little peeved about the fotf nerf tho, there isn't much zealot has to dea...
Honestly I was kinda surprised it got nerfed I don’t really see a lot of ppl use FOTF
radiant nacelle
Fotf will be fine imo
median steeple
most people used it for the ranged buffs it gave
celest sail
Are you certain?
spare talon
The crit cdr nerf is definitely justified but that doesn't mean I'm happy about it lmao
It was just too fun
median steeple
but it's still gonna be incredibly useful
radiant nacelle
Lol no most people used fotf for dash and toughness healing
spare talon
most people used it for the ranged buffs it gave
Most people here used it for the ranged
radiant nacelle
Using it for the ranged thing specifically is bonkers
ember yew
The crit cdr nerf is definitely justified but that doesn't mean I'm happy about ...
all that's left is to put a 2-3 sec cd on parry for dclaw
manic token
furying mid chain rev animation still one shot crushers? pls say yes i loved it so much
spare talon
all that's left is to put a 2-3 sec cd on parry for dclaw
I'm going to strangle you
Literally most people didn't know about fotfs ranged effects period
buoyant pewter
Tbh I play FOTF because I don’t use ranged a lot
ember yew
fleet zealot
you mean the nerf from 100% to 25%?
yea (even tho it was deserved and also made it better for martyrdom builds
median steeple
Most people *here* used it for the ranged
so people who actually know what's going on
I used fotf just to catch gunners before they became annoying
woeful pecan
furying mid chain rev animation still one shot crushers? pls say yes i loved it ...
They're staying up with like 50 hp for me now. Did not previously
median steeple
Oops wrong image
spare talon
so people who actually know what's going on
Aka being told by someone else cuz it's not actually said anywhere ingame
median steeple
Fatshark momen
ember yew
Tbh I play FOTF because I don’t use ranged a lot
old FOTS with armor downgrade on ranged opened a lot more possible weapon combinations, now it's either Zarona mk2 or Bolter if your melee weapon can't do carapace damage
manic token
They're staying up with like 50 hp for me now. Did not previously
wtf i mean i guess it still works but thats a weird change
woeful pecan
It's inconsistent. They're surviving like 50% of the time, dying the rest
median steeple
Flamer killing everything it touched with fotf was crazy
im suprised it stayed like that for so long
spare talon
old FOTS with armor downgrade on ranged opened a lot more possible weapon combin...
And the only zealot melees that can do reasonable carapace damage is
Knife
Crusher (which just got gutted)
Thunderhammer (albeit very slowly)
Chain weapons
fleet zealot
It's inconsistent. They're surviving like 50% of the time, dying the rest
that might just be lag, some of the ticks not getting buffed
median steeple
wait is op still bugged?
misty nova
The crit cdr nerf is definitely justified but that doesn't mean I'm happy about ...
Fr, they didn't even buff the % gained back, although that would make knives even better
celest sail
And the only zealot melees that can do reasonable carapace damage is
Knife
Crush...
Would you include Rashad?
woeful pecan
What happened to crusher?
vast basin
And the only zealot melees that can do reasonable carapace damage is
Knife
Crush...
Caxe
ember yew
And the only zealot melees that can do reasonable carapace damage is
Knife
Crush...
I'l erase chain weapons from this unless its MK15 with Carapace and BT oneshot or chainaxe 4-12, solo crusher is irrelevant, but against pack of 4-6 you are gonna be interrupted like a lot
obsidian ore
Hammerblow seems to be the play with the new shock mauls, your overheads will cause crushers, bulwarks, reapers and berserkers to stagger, allowing you to bash them with skullcrusher stacks
spare talon
I'l erase chain weapons from this unless its MK15 with Carapace and BT oneshot o...
True
Even less reliable melee options for zealot
manic token
i wish they would have just capped the crit cdr you could receive to like 3 enemies at a time to atleast give a reason to run cleave weapons but it is what it is
ashen quartz
saul can burst down crushers pretty quick with scrouge up
spare talon
i wish they would have just capped the crit cdr you could receive to like 3 enem...
I was gonna say this
buoyant pewter
old FOTS with armor downgrade on ranged opened a lot more possible weapon combin...
Me likey second eviscerator because it reminds me of Exe sword from V2
buoyant pewter
Me likey second eviscerator because it reminds me of Exe sword from V2
This + fotf during the heavy activation gave me blessed blade dmg
misty nova
What happened to crusher?
The weapon? Unlisted attack speed nerf iirc
spare talon
Ok I take a shower to unstink myself before playing the game
woeful pecan
The weapon? Unlisted attack speed nerf iirc
RIP. Zealot gets the nerf bat today, apparently
maiden path
manic token
Ok I take a shower to unstink myself before playing the game
forever stinky smell like cheese
ember yew
man another patch and overpressure is still bugged
its funny since PB was fixed
spare talon
forever stinky smell like cheese
Nuh uh
maiden path
raise ur hand\
median steeple
its funny since PB was fixed
ashen quartz
plasma gun and voc untouched though lol
fleet zealot
wait is op still bugged?
median steeple
I could be wrong but I dont think fatshark is gonna touch VoC
plasma is getting touched hard sometime soon
median steeple
I'm betting on that
spare talon
Anyway
I'm going to be bitter these next few days cuz fatshark basically nerfed my favorite things 
celest sail
FWIW I will be with you
median steeple
funny that blaze away got nerfed even if it wasn't that big of a deal of a nerf but op is still bugged
amazing
misty nova
Anyway
I'm going to be bitter these next few days cuz fatshark basically nerfed ...
Have fun, I'll be adapting to the changes
spare talon
Guys let's review bomb darktide (dont)
And sent pipe bombs to fatshark (DONT)
misty nova
On the corner, don't mind me
vast basin
Guys let's review bomb darktide (dont)
And sent pipe bombs to fatshark (DONT)
Great plan I'll start drafting the death threats
ember yew
Guys let's review bomb darktide (dont)
And sent pipe bombs to fatshark (DONT)
Better to cancel all flights to Hawaii so they cant get their vacations
median steeple
gamers™️
hey at least this patch didn't come out before fatshark went out on their 4 month vacations
ashen quartz
boring-ass knife build looking at me like the green goblin mask after these nerfs
vast basin
Marty+backstab cdr looking mighty tasty these days
fast scroll
Which class got the double barrel?
ashen quartz
all little guys
vast basin
All humans
ember yew
and gorillas got pickaxe
fast scroll
Anyone know what I should run on the DB?
median steeple
still figuring out the best combos but you could do the doom build
ashen quartz
i saw weapon specialist + dual-barrel was pretty fun for blowing hordes up
median steeple
I don't know if it's even good
fast scroll
still figuring out the best combos but you could do the doom build
This guy gets it
ashen quartz
that 3.3 rounds up quite a bit
misty nova
Double barrel blessing for fun
fast scroll
Chain sword is a must
tired kindle
so they nerfed crit cooldown to on swing from critical hits? BOOOOOOO
sterile basalt
so they nerfed crit cooldown to on swing from critical hits? BOOOOOOO
It’s well overdue
Maybe a bit overboard cuz now it scales atk speed more than cleave
ashen quartz
hadron pls
tired kindle
It’s well overdue
loon
median steeple
sorry death upon your weapon
ashen quartz
i hate this robot
frosty herald
Hmm
ashen quartz
frosty herald
Hadron just said the war on atoma has changed
median steeple
it's not that bad
median steeple
entropic is goofy asf keep it
ashen quartz
i have trouble keeping entropic uptime
forest atlas
Thrust is bait on maul
is it?
median steeple
hammerblow/sc are better I hear
ashen quartz
server eats like half my inputs
sterile basalt
is it?
U don’t gain notable new breakpoints by charging thrust
And in the time u charge thrust, u could just atk twice
forest atlas
i see, that makes sense
median steeple
oh shit new wolfer dialogue
frosty herald
Whats he yapping about now
hidden verge
would this be gud on zealot?
median steeple
Chasm station he fucking obliterated morrow
sterile stone
Hasn't that always been there
median steeple
my game exploded
spare talon
Aside from stealth nerfs cuz why would they ever know about those
Reddit seems to be on the same page as us, surprisingly
Where everything is a win but chastise nerf is just "ok?? why??"
median steeple
I haven't heard any other wolfer dialogue out of the carnival missions and the other chasm mision
merry flume
i fear i have to play unmodded
i keep getting weird disconnects
i fixed the crashing
median steeple
weapon customization if you have it
merry flume
never had it
spare talon
I'm gonna have to do the weeding process too for mods
@merry flume what mods so far did end up breaking stuff
merry flume
there's something that freezes my game then disconnects me after 30 seconds of the same frame
merry flume
i think i deleted any crosshair mods
sterile stone
<@401737241115754527> how are you enjoying the bolt pistol
I haven't gotten to use it outside the phsyk
The stun baton feels nice buuuuuut
sterile stone
I feel like zealot benefits from the stun baton more than vet
median steeple
zealot is always gonna benefit more from melees
I wonder how the bolt holds up when using sharpshooter
vast basin
<@103507581405786112> what mods so far did end up breaking stuff
2024-06-25: Secrets of the Machine God
Known issues:
Vortex Extension not detecting the gamefixedCleanForceBlocking causing a crash upon loading into the MourningstarfixedShowMeRealWeaponStats crashes shopfixed- Crosshair remap
- Crosshair fix
- probably anything crosshair related
buoyant pewter
Any suggestions due to changes from the update?
vast basin
For crossed out stuff you will have to update the mod obv
placid fiber
For crossed out stuff you will have to update the mod obv
What about stuff involving bacon?
:3
Just askin... for a friend... >.>'
ancient ivy
I love running arond Tertium with a knife like it's London
vast basin
W-what?
placid fiber
Bacon, you know... the food?
vast basin
What does bacon have to do with mod issues
placid fiber
What doesn't bacon have to do with the mod issues? >_>'
Obviously everything is bacon related
In one way or another
(I'm joking, btw)
delicate horizon
uhhhh, for the new boltpistol
spice ravine
Anybody knows if High Voltage on the new maul works on shock animation, or do they need the dot from the special?
delicate horizon
is collateral important?
solar gorge
probably not
solar gorge
but dumpstats are likely mobility and stability
delicate horizon
uhh stability?
solar gorge
yeah
median steeple
just dump mobility on the bolt pistol and I have like 80 stabil on mine and you still hit the moon
placid fiber
Stability isn't as important on some weapons
median steeple
it doesn't matter all that much
merry flume
i feel like stealth smaul would actually kinda slap
median steeple
I loaded into a mission and appeared back on the morningstar???
what the fuck game
solar gorge
i had forgotten how it feels to spam brunt to get good rolls
merry flume
at least playing a backstab playstyle would work because you have the special to stun enemies
ripe quest
Played the update: balance is ruined. Flamer is 100% dogshit, the new weapons can't kill anything. Paul is now the best weapon in the game. (I haven't actually played the game yet)
median steeple
burn it all down
placid fiber
what the fuck game
Game says no
ripe quest
(or have I???)
median steeple
it's joever
merry flume
god i wish flamer was bad
solar gorge
fair trade for the rise of the paul
ripe quest
Flamer felt like it did the same shit but now you need something called an anti-Crusher weapon (people have never heard of this)
north sedge
Flamer felt like it did the same shit but now you need something called an anti-...
we did constantly struggle with crushers (no)
ripe quest
ie my old build of Mk IV Chaxe + Flamer was just balling up everything
hollow mantle
WHAT IN THE FLYING FUCK
hollow mantle
THEY CHANGED CHASTISE?
placid fiber
Flamer felt like it did the same shit but now you need something called an anti-...
You mean the thing I kept in my back pocket at all times, in the past? lol
loud compass
So, is the bolt pistol as bad as it seems at face value when I'm trying it out in the meatgrinder? I'm honestly not even wanting to bring it into a mission to find out because it seems like it can't kill anything in a reasonable number of bullets. It doesn't even kill a pox walker with a direct hit unless it's a crit or headshot?
ripe quest
THEY CHANGED CHASTISE?
ye ranged armor downgrade is no more
hollow mantle
FATSHARK YOU SHITS
median steeple
So, is the bolt pistol as bad as it seems at face value when I'm trying it out i...
what blessings you got on
north sedge
bolt pistol is solid
solar gorge
very sad day day but chastise had it coming
median steeple
DA+surg make quick work of most things
buoyant pewter
The bolt pistol fucks
north sedge
JESUS CHRIST I KNOW, CHASTISE IS STILL OUR BEST ABILITY ITS FUCKED UP
median steeple
and I have shit perks on mine
loud compass
what blessings you got on
deadly accurate 4, surgical 4. Just what it spawned with when I consecrated it to see what blessing it had available
hollow mantle
I have a thousand hours in this game and I have been so hopeful for the patches and getting dumb shit fixed
ancient ivy
shrowdfield is still pretty good for an aggressive London playstyle
hollow mantle
and THATS what they decide to change?
merry flume
So, is the bolt pistol as bad as it seems at face value when I'm trying it out i...
idk what kind of fuckass gun you have
solar gorge
bro has 1% on the dmg roll
median steeple
it could be psyk being an ass again
delicate horizon
for the boltpistol perks just go with flak and maniac?
ripe quest
If you hate the pullout on Boltgun then Boltpistol is good. It does the same damage as Boltgun, so just hit heads. The ADS sight sucks ass as per usual for Boltguns but it only comes up when moving or rapid firing.
median steeple
but it should oneshot chaff and deal with specials/elites in reasonable amount of bullets
north sedge
can one shot human elites
north sedge
reapers are like ~3 shots on the head?
loud compass
idk what kind of fuckass gun you have
It's only killing chaff enemies on crit or headshot
hollow mantle
I am going to have a fucking aneurysm. Fuck devs who think that two plus years after release changing something back to "intended" when its core to so many builds is an even halfway reasonable answer. Dont fucking call it intended. Fuck your intended
north sedge
I am going to have a fucking aneurysm. Fuck devs who think that two plus years a...
learn to play
loud compass
283 damage on a non-crit/weakpoint hit
north sedge
are you shooting playdoh?
ancient ivy
bleeding crits is just good
median steeple
is it the dmg stat being low? because it's not that low
loud compass
that's why I'm questioning what I'm seeing
median steeple
change your perks to flak/maniac and try
royal vortex
283 damage on a non-crit/weakpoint hit
"chaff"... as in poxwalkers?
fast walrus
The base damage is like 500 on a bolt pistol, unless you're missing or something
ripe quest
283 damage on a non-crit/weakpoint hit
mm you're hitting poxwalkers.
the ADM is bad for infested
royal vortex
the infested adm on bolt weapons is SHIT
loud compass
Is it supposed to be that shit vs infested specifically?
ripe quest
For whatever reason yeah. It's like a 0.5x adm or smth
median steeple
infested is just shit against ranged
loud compass
wtf
ancient ivy
Infested are fun to just cut down
spare dome
why yall keep shooting easily defeated garbage enemies
north sedge
thankfully you don't need to shoot infested with a bolt pistol really
opaque island
I am going to have a fucking aneurysm. Fuck devs who think that two plus years a...
what change are you yapping about? you're being super vague
mystic nacelle
what change are you yapping about? you're being super vague
fury now doesnt level down armor for ranged attacks
median steeple
fotf no longer applying to ranged weapons
north sedge
he's crying about the chastised ranged removal
loud compass
I was just trying it on all things, and it seemed pretty low damage in general unless I crit headshot (obviously, since it has deadly accurate)
ancient ivy
I mostly run shrowd
royal vortex
why yall keep shooting easily defeated garbage enemies
to send a message
also. holy fuck these pickaxes
the branx is going to make me have an aneurysm
ancient ivy
ikr they're massive
royal vortex
the h2 has a HUGE delay from the end of the attack to when you can input the next light
this is bad
opaque island
magdumping my bolter down a halway filled with a horde, might not be the most optimal use, but the hallway being filled with bloodmist, makes it worth it
median steeple
so are picks the standard single target, horde, and what teh fuck is this used for? line up
royal vortex
so are picks the standard single target, horde, and what teh fuck is this used f...
the medium one is pretty okay
misty nova
Isn't branx the heavy one, that might be intentional, no?
royal vortex
it has notably better chain timing for the horde combo
ancient ivy
my teammates watching limbs fly as this Zealot rat with a knife just cuts down Heretics in the hallway
median steeple
is the single target pick close or better than the shovel?
merry flume
wtf guys it took 4 bullets of my gun with no momentum or rage it sucks 😡
royal vortex
Isn't branx the heavy one, that might be intentional, no?
it doesn't matter if it's intended. it's legitimately so awful feeling
it's not even like it queues it up and then takes the same amount of time
it just doesn't register it as an input
misty nova
So it's H2 into a light? I might test it later
loud compass
so, what's the role for the bolt pistol then? it seems alright for headshot crits, but I'd hope that a bolt pistol is for more than that, especially considering it's terrible recoil and lack of anything more than an ironsight
mossy scarab
the medium one is pretty okay
Ogryn chat seems to love the picks
royal vortex
So it's H2 into a light? I might test it later
yeah
royal vortex
Ogryn chat seems to love the picks
the light one is literally just ogryn hsword with no deathblow but better bleed
north sedge
so, what's the role for the bolt pistol then? it seems *alright* for headshot cr...
it one shots all human elites wdym
mossy scarab
I dont like the bolt pistol. Mostly because it sounds like you're firing a wet fart
merry flume
so, what's the role for the bolt pistol then? it seems *alright* for headshot cr...
a weapon that you headshot with, it's a boltgun still and it does stupid damage lmao
frosty herald
Just had a 4 ogryn stack
median steeple
a weapon that you headshot with, it's a boltgun still and it does stupid damage ...
are we using the same weapon?
sounds like the normal bolter
just louder
oops wron gmessage
Fuck
frosty herald
merry flume
like im using meme blessings and i still do damage
god forbid if i used crit headshot damage and surgical
mossy scarab
It seems to fill a similar role as the bolter, but with lower fire rate and a faster reload
solar gorge
i hope the pick delay thing isn't too bad because big damage is appealing
and i'd like to use the hardest hitting one
north sedge
it's faster swap/reload, i would say its somewhere between bolter and revolver
loud compass
so... we're still pigeonholed into using the new bolt pistol the same way as the bolter, for headshots only?
merry flume
yeah bro nobody goes for headshots on any other weapon lol
mossy scarab
which I doubt
solar gorge
it has
ripe quest
the pick has some funky rhythm going on
buoyant pewter
Any suggestions due to changes from the update?
Any thoughts on this?
solar gorge
multiple unique blessings
north sedge
it can bleed which makes it automatically the best thing ever!
loud compass
I like the revolver better
yeah, exactly... if I want a hard hitting headshot weapon, I'd rather have a revolver
merry flume
it can bleed which makes it automatically the best thing ever!
this
loud compass
At least it doesn't have ridiculous recoil, like the bolt weapons
solar gorge
the pick has some funky rhythm going on
uh
median steeple
the pick has some funky rhythm going on
holy shit that looks so goofy with the clay graphics
buoyant pewter
Holy moly though bolt pistol is a hand cannon
solar gorge
robloxtide doesn't help either
merry flume
bro plays darktide on roblox graphics
misty nova
Branx special into heavy does have a weird animation skip
mossy scarab
the pick has some funky rhythm going on
Are you playing on a fuckin potato?
solar gorge
You're 6 months late
wdym
north sedge
frosty herald
I use slaughterer and torment on the karsolas pick
ripe quest
I've had this shit for so long now. Outdates the P13 update, and I've posted clips about it constantly.
merry flume
how many frames do you get on that godawful config
frosty herald
Torment is such a cool blessing
ripe quest
how many frames do you get on that godawful config
370, 280 mid T5+ horde
median steeple
brothers playing castleminer Z with that pick
hollow mantle
There was a lot of build variety that zealots had because of the chastise ranged rending. Braced autoguns could be paired with heavy sword and feel good to run in most situations. It wasn't optimal but it could do just fine at the highest difficulties and felt fun. There was build variety there.
Running heavy sword without bolter or zarona is going to feel pretty shitty. Not having a good answer for crusher patrols on your own makes pulling clutches with non optimal stuff so much harder.
It wasn't broken. It was a calculated risk to blow your charge like that for a burst of damage.
Flamer was in a fine spot too, it took a lot of investment to still kill crushers with 2 chastise uses.
I cant imagine why I would want to take agri braced auto anymore if its going to always be total dogshit at armor like that.
The quickdraw revolver had a nice spot too before that. It could kill 2-3 crushers sometimes with an ult and could fill in as boss dps and armor clear.
It just feels like there was a ton of build flexibility that zealot had thats going to feel way worse now because they took out that option. Zealot felt incredible to play and so many weapon combos that could work and feel both effective and fun to run. Now a useful and imo not at all broken tool has just been snatched from the toolbox.
Theres plenty of stuff that still works fine. Plenty of great ways to play, but a lot are going to also feels like shit too
merry flume
no gsync?
solar gorge
so you have more clips like this for other weps ?
frosty herald
Must not copypaste...
neat drum
merry flume
or do you just have a beefy monitor with a big refresh rate?
my monitor has a 165hz refresh rate and i can pretty much max the game out and still get like 120+ fps
north sedge
exhil also can't see like 20% of the new map at least, which is funny
merry flume
with gsync i literally cannot tell
loud compass
yeah bro nobody goes for headshots on any other weapon lol
I'm not saying that you have to have a headshot weapon to bother going for headshots, but that if you're making a headshot specific weapon, it shouldn't have stupid amounts of recoil, preventing follow up shots for a couple of seconds. If you miss the headshot on the first shot with the bolt pistol, then it takes another couple of seconds to line up another headshot, or it takes 3 body shots
frosty herald
<:pogryn:961977701533614130>
Doesnt actualy do anything you just have 0% stats
median steeple
buy and keep it for the funnies
merry flume
I have no clue what that is.
neat drum
Doesnt actualy do anything you just have 0% stats
heck you mean 0 stats lmao
frosty herald
N/a is 0%
neat drum
merry flume
unless ur running a budget build then it makes sense but i just don't see the benefit of having all those frames at the expense of your game looking like dookie poopie garbage
median steeple
yikes
royal vortex
hey so uh
neat drum
fatshark
royal vortex
why does the indignatus saul have the achlys heavy moveset copied 1:1
ripe quest
There was a lot of build variety that zealots had because of the chastise ranged...
Consider the following:
Any (ANY) ranged weapon being able to completely erase Carapace spawns from existence is a terrible artifact that shouldn't exist in a game like this. The ult already does like 6 other mechanics, it doesn't need to also have the balance enigma that is turning any Carapace ADM into a Flak ADM for 3s.
median steeple
hmmm you know what that means
ripe quest
Seems pointless, not using that. I don't have performance issues.
neat drum
it means it was bugged
median steeple
delete revolver from teh game
merry flume
fair enough, enjoy sloptide
ripe quest
I mean, I feel like other people have more of a problem with my config than I do. I can't post a singular fucking clip without getting 3+ pings that completely ignore the subject matter and just go "hahah roblox game". Brainrot behavior.
coarse birch
But its not 4k 120 fps!!!!!!
ripe quest
With this clip in particular I don't care but I've had like, demos for mechanics shown and they get ignored due to literal cosmetics.
hollow mantle
Consider the following:
*Any* (***ANY***) ranged weapon being able to completely...
Id not care so much if there were changes to make some of the other options not entirely useless against carapace. When there are a lot of melee weapons that tickle it and also a lot of ranged weapons that tickle it naturally forces a meta. Cool we have revolver and bolter. Goodbye variety. If they buffed numbers on the other options before removing it then sure, whatever. Figure out the new stuff.
But they didn't. Hell they cited the rending as a reason why they changed the flamer before. So they balanced around this unintended feature once, but didnt do it again when removing it
ripe quest
what gpu do you have
2080, it literally doesn't matter though as I don't do it for performance.
I could have the RTX 100800 from time travel wizardry and I'd still play with these graphics since they're way better to look at for me than the base game.
merry flume
that's the reason right there, you make your game look like shit for some unknown minmax meta reason instead of just having a normal game 😭
coarse birch
I mean if he likes it he likes it
ripe quest
that's the reason right there, you make your game look like shit for some unknow...
I never fucking said it was to minmax don't put words in my mouth.
solar gorge
I assume the 3ss on the perfect parry blessing for maul is a typo
and it's 3 seconds
coarse birch
Yeah
merry flume
three super seconds
coarse birch
From what i can tell
median steeple
with fatshark you can never tell
still quartz
It go bang
merry flume
snake seconds
solar gorge
i need to craft one but fuck crafting still dogh
i have infinite resources it just takes ages
merry flume
i went from like 90k plasteel to 100 and i got maybe 1 verson of every new weapon that's ok at best
yippie
median steeple
Bro is struggling to get the breach open
merry flume
the fumbler
still quartz
Bro is struggling to get the breach open
"hang on I keep dropping the shells"
solar gorge
this + the reload on melee kill for vet is p good
frosty herald
Reload speed doesnt even matter if you get the blessing
ripe quest
Id not care so much if there were changes to make some of the other options not ...
3/4 of the weapons added are capable of anti-Carapace. There are a grand sum of weapons that handle it, Fury of the Faithful still gives your melee weapon the armor downgrade, allowing weapons that shouldn't be able to handle Cara an opportunity to do so. With how strong our characters are, you'd be hard-pressed to find a lobby that outright cannot deal with Cara unless it was an uncommunicated smitten lobby from the emperor himself.
merry flume
he can't put the shell in properly 😔
still quartz
This is mine
frosty herald
this + the reload on melee kill for vet is p good
The reload speed needs to be nerfed to 50%
still quartz
Oh yeah it just doesn't do jack shit right
I had it happen to me once and I was so confused
solar gorge
they need to add a knocback effect that affects the player
let me have the force of nature in dt
still quartz
they need to add a knocback effect that affects the player
The fuck is this, TF2
solar gorge
it should be
still quartz
Give us a rocket launcher
frosty herald
There is an unique reload animation at 50% extra speed
still quartz
I wanna rocket jump all over the heretics
modern timber
is the new shotgun good for close range zelot
frosty herald
HOWEVER this will also break if it goes faster
north sedge
let me throw piss on shroud zealots
still quartz
is the new shotgun good for close range zelot
Yeah
solar gorge
is the new shotgun good for close range zelot
it's good for close range anything
modern timber
let me throw piss on shroud zealots
still quartz
Run up and get done up
misty nova
is the new shotgun good for close range zelot
Yeah just double shoot them
frosty herald
modern timber
it's good for close range anything
no for the perks and skills
median steeple
grinding plasteel to get a god roll shotgun (im gonna use it for 2 games then forget)
merry flume
being able to oneshot a mutie with a gun as zealot is pretty funny
modern timber
like anointed in blood
hmmmm
with the new shotgun what melee would be best to just roleplay the doomslayer
ripe quest
is the new shotgun good for close range zelot
It's what you get when you want a human-sized Kickback yeah
merry flume
with the new shotgun what melee would be best to just roleplay the doomslayer
doomslayer knows how to use pretty much anything
ripe quest
with the new shotgun what melee would be best to just roleplay the doomslayer
Could go full-Khorne and take a Chaxe.
coarse birch
i went from like 90k plasteel to 100 and i got maybe 1 verson of every new weapo...
yeah i spent 70k to get everything
merry flume
yeah i spent 70k to get everything
i do like the shock maul a lot though, reminds me of 1h kruber mace
coarse birch
i need to get used to perfect block cause it so far out of my muscle memory
i just dodge out of habit
merry flume
i always just keep 2-3 chaff enemies behind me and i block from behind lol
median steeple
the poxwalker on the ground blocking me as I try to dodge a crusher overhead
merry flume
are you trying to dodge backwards from a crusher
austere grail
Its so over.
hollow mantle
3/4 of the weapons added are capable of anti-Carapace. There are a grand sum of ...
Sure, there are options. Thats not really my point. My point is that there were fun builds that are going to feel really shitty to play now. There was no reason to fuck over that many options when they weren't breaking the game. Because of how those ranged weapons deal with carapace it will mean you either feel useless in scenarios taking them or you have to run certain melee weapons every time. There was a trade off in using your ult to burst down a few armored enemies. It wasn't an instant win button.
Yes the class hasn't been nerfed into the gutter. But there are less fun builds now that feel effective
median steeple
are you trying to dodge backwards from a crusher
Ime it doesn't matter which way you dodge the overhead if you time it right it will not hit you
merry flume
wait to see if they even balance things out before you guys go into full panic mode lmao
median steeple
unless you know you're dodging into them
merry flume
my favorite is dodging from a crusher only to get caught on a tiny piece of collision in the geometry
median steeple
just kill the bastards
merry flume
mine them
median steeple
do you think they drop iron like a golem
merry flume
they drop blood
merry flume
wtf i actually might have to finally play ogryn
austere grail
Really? Pick special knocks down crushers? Lmao
fast walrus
I used the pick earlier, I used the maul just now for testing
frosty herald
Except bosses and mutants
austere grail
I saw that the shock maul stun on block thing has no cooldown either
merry flume
it pisses me off that the buff icon for the block has a number
austere grail
So you can spam block and perma stun rager pakcs
frosty herald
Torment also has a number
Seems like they wanted it to be a multiple hita kinda thing but settled on the one hit for activation
median steeple
so what saul is better? I heard one of them plays like crusher
spare talon
me flashbanging people with steam saying i launched darktide cuz im tweaking my mods
ripe quest
Sure, there are options. Thats not really my point. My point is that there were ...
mrw nerfing something causes things to feel worse: 
It was an unhealthy balance point that shouldn't have existed in the first place, FotF had too much going for it that the other two ults were being often disregarded in higher play since they were mainly used gimmicks or niches. Zealot is already an insanely easy class to build, it has a multitude of potent damage melee options and it really didn't need the ability to make any ranged weapon capable of handling Carapace, especially when there are already ranged weapons that can do that.
median steeple
amazing
opaque island
new map is good, i like it alot
alot of barrels at the start positioned just right to knock you off the edge though yall werent kidding
merry flume
so what saul is better? I heard one of them plays like crusher
the one that doesn't look like a crusher because you can actually swing it and it doesn't feel like you're underwater using it
median steeple
also how tf are you parrying with this thing? does its special parry
merry flume
timed block
median steeple
ah
merry flume
like vermintide
median steeple
god its been so long since I did that
merry flume
alot of barrels at the start positioned just right to knock you off the edge tho...
ive watched like a dozen people die to them so far
feels nice to be able to say fuck you to pretty much everything
does the stun effect unyielding?
or just man-sized and fatshark didn't bother being specific again
median steeple
damn the sauls dmg is pretty decent wth
merry flume
i should be able to stun a crusher for 1.5 seconds if im dumb enough to try to parry it
yeah skullcrusher is like
actually dumb on it
hollow mantle
mrw nerfing something causes things to feel worse: <a:explode:110466914543128171...
Yeah cool man glad you have such a positive view of it. We can agree all day on how easy something is. Removing options for variety and fun play is still fucking shitty.
merry flume
i was using 25% damage to electrocuted enemies but 80>25%
spare talon
now i have to find out what mod is causing the game to just close when i buy any of the new weapons
misty nova
Starting by inventory mods, no?
frosty herald
The mod server shows mods that arent working
merry flume
the reddit mod
spare talon
Starting by inventory mods, no?
thats what im trying
misty nova
I think I played too much Bodyguard, start speaking like it
frosty herald
2024-06-25: Secrets of the Machine God
Known issues:
Vortex Extension not detecting the gamefixedCleanForceBlocking causing a crash upon loading into the MourningstarfixedShowMeRealWeaponStats crashes shopfixed- Crosshair remap
- Crosshair fix
- probably anything crosshair related
spare talon
**2024-06-25: Secrets of the Machine God**
Known issues:
- ~~Vortex Extension n...
i dont use any that arent already fixed
compact nymph
The only fixes for the zealot feel like nerfs. Dash failing to work properly at all, not registering the crit with melee hit is still a thing, but they stopped it working with ranged which was the only thing that made using it bearable. WTF even are fatsharks priorities for this game?
coarse birch
huh
merry flume
starting to feel more and more like "they took my crutch away now i have to play the class that's only a little bit overpowered now"
compact nymph
Vet is my crutch.
merry flume
that makes sense
coarse birch
chastise is still p insane
compact nymph
Shout at things until I win. ez mode.
glass pelican
as long as i can run into hammer bonk all good
compact nymph
I wouldn't mind at all if they just fixed the issues we''ve had since beta/release
I want the game to be hard, not broken.
north sedge
Never had anything you said
misty mason
Robert Eggers Nosferatu hype
merry flume
the dash issue has to be tied to either refresh rate or game performance
merry flume
i always chalked it up to me smashing buttons too fast and buffering inputs
opaque island
ive found that holding shift can make things a little wacky too, like sprint cancelling heavy attacks
merry flume
didn't vermintide have a specific input buffer option? 
compact nymph
I've been told before "its your PC" and "its your frame rate" but a 4080super and 7800X£D later there is no change.
i'mm aleave that £ in ther einstead of the 3.. more accurate.
merry flume
sims money
opaque island
Im not saying you're not having the problem, are you sure its not some kind of input issue, like i said holding shift to sprint while trying to do other things has caused things to get a little wonky for me when trying to do charges/heavy attacks etc
merry flume
i think we can just chalk it up to funny game code
final forge
is there a list of all blessings for the new boltgun yet?
compact nymph
yeah sprint cancel is a thing that annoyed the hell out of me on reloads, ive gotten much better at only sprinting when I need to now since I rebound it to mouse
merry flume
prob on the gameslantern darktide site
ripe quest
Yeah cool man glad you have such a positive view of it. We can agree all day on ...
When said options are overperforming? That's like, basic balancing you nerf stuff that is too strong. I personally would like a game that requires me to have a functioning brain to play, it's already a problem that our own strength is on the brink of outpacing the engine.
still quartz
is there a list of all blessings for the new boltgun yet?
If you use the Reveal Blessings mod, it'll show
Uh I'll try to list a couple off the top of my head
final forge
feelsbad dont have that
red mesa
ok ive been working all day and havent gotten to look at much.
any general consensus on the patch? New weapons fun?
any huge buffs/nerfs of classes/builds I should know about? (about to drive home wont even be able to read the patch notes for 1.5 hours and kinda wanna just play when i get on)
I play all 4 classes so, any like major changes someone could run me down?
still quartz
New Bolt Pistol Blessings:
- Puncture (T1 - T4) : Applies 1-4 Stacks of Bleed on hit
- Lethal Proximity (T1 - T4) : Shots always explode regardless of distance; explosion radius increased by 10% - 25%
- Execution (T1 - T4) : 5% - 20% Damage Bonus vs Staggered Enemies
- Run n' Gun (T3) : Can shoot while sprinting, +12% Damage vs Close Range
final forge
Uh I'll try to list a couple off the top of my head
thx ill look back in a sec just got into new map
eh mid match
just got this
merry flume
ok ive been working all day and havent gotten to look at much.
any general cons...
everything is fun if you are good at the game, they nerfed zealots like bread and butter for deleting everything
final forge
prob surgical and keep deadly accurate for headshots?
spare talon
wow the indig shock maul is
weird
merry flume
its good!
red mesa
everything is fun if you are good at the game, they nerfed zealots like bread an...
like bread and butter huh? lol what was nerfed hard?
merry flume
fury of the faithful doesn't work on guns anymore
spare talon
basically all of its combos are strikedown, except for a small bit of its light attacks, which only then will chain into side heavies that do not normally exists in its heavy chains
red mesa
fury of the faithful doesn't work on guns anymore
oh wtf lol
why even nerf that
sadge
spare talon
wait no its initial heavy is a side swipe, but it will never return to this point in the combo
and the side lights chain into that instead of the overheads they would normally based on the order of their position of the combo
merry flume
h1 l1 to victory
spare talon
why even nerf that
crit cdr also stealth nerfed
1 per swing instead of per hit
red mesa
crit cdr also stealth nerfed
1 per swing instead of per hit
oh nooo. I mean it was busted af but so fun lmao
thats huge
so no more instant cooldowns on hordes
sad
merry flume
the youtube build guys are distraught rn
red mesa
the youtube build guys are distraught rn
like who lmao
merry flume
like who lmao
the people who use youtube builds not the ones that make em
hollow mantle
When said options are overperforming? That's like, basic balancing you nerf stuf...
Shotguns and auto guns for zealots are overperforming? I agree the game isn't that hard when you get good at it and that there are still a lot of options but the strongest ones are still just as strong. This change didn't effect them much if at all. The issue of addressing the difficulty of the game and how everything feels is pretty nebulous but I would hope they would approach it in a more reasonable sense than making a lot of previously viable and not overpowered weapons feel like crap
spare talon
realasianrobot isnt smart enough to actually use crit cdr
his builds are a defilement to the classs
the game as a whole actually
merry flume
its ok shock maul with backstab cdr is essentially like having infinite ult
median steeple
yo holy shit a whole +75 plasteel!
ripe quest
Shotguns and auto guns for zealots are overperforming? I agree the game isn't th...
That literally isn't what I said but go off ig.
misty mason
Alright whats the dilly with the new weapons, just trie the shotty in Psykhanium and seems OK
spare talon
not gonna lie
ive no idea whats going to be the play for shock maul blessings
shy badge
I'm struggling to find a reason to like the new shotgun
fast scroll
fast scroll
I'm struggling to find a reason to like the new shotgun
Doom
red mesa
probably like
realasianrobot
dude hes the worst lmao i dont wanna be a hater but i tried watching one or two of his videos. Doesn't know what hes talking about, never uses a script so repeats himself and rambles constantly, and his builds are usually pretty bad lmao
median steeple
parry blessing seems a little busted
misty mason
It seems like the shotty isnt pure damage, its also about knockdown/stun
merry flume
guys....braced autoguns will never recover......
median steeple
It seems like the shotty isnt pure damage, its also about knockdown/stun
it's special knocks ragers on the floor
red mesa
i think i watched one of his videos and it was a "i know this game better than these bad youtubers" moment for me
shy badge
Idk i've experienced dumping both barrels into a rager and it lives and isn't staggered long enough for me to reload
fast scroll
Any thoughts on my DB?
misty mason
Did you have maniac on it?
plucky marsh
savage sweep rampage eviscerator bros is it over?
merry flume
Idk i've experienced dumping both barrels into a rager and it lives and isn't st...
think you need either 25% maniac or fire frenzy
plucky marsh
shy badge
I dont believe so but compared to the kantrael it feels horrid, maybe i'm using it wrong
median steeple
the syncing part of the new map is bad with pubs holy moly
merry flume
savage sweep rampage eviscerator bros is it over?
perfect strike evis bros eating good rn
red mesa
who's the rage-bait youtuber who is good at the game, but screeches into his mic all the time yelling at no one about how bad some build is usually
i can't remember his name
merry flume
i don't watch darktide youtubers because they're all redditors
hollow mantle
That literally isn't what I said but go off ig.
Well I'm wondering what guns are overperforming. What are you referencing.
spare talon
dude hes the worst lmao i dont wanna be a hater but i tried watching one or two ...
back before the class rework, i was looking for more psyker builds other than purgatus for groups and ult+bb for elites
saw a trauma build from him that used quicken and i said "eh i wont judge a book by its cover" and tried it
and i shit you not it was the most freshly shat out horse shit build ive ever used in my fucking life
buoyant pewter
Bricked, or salvageable?
merry flume
change reload speed and glory lmao
buoyant pewter
Aite bet
median steeple
personally me I would take DA off but like keep the bricked rolls if they have a good base stats
this area is hilarious
red mesa
back before the class rework, i was looking for more psyker builds other than pu...
gross quicken sucked hahaha
buoyant pewter
What should I put over RS?
median steeple
maniac or flak
buoyant pewter
Okie dokie thanks
frosty herald
Is it intended that trappers still hit you through hordes
misty nova
savage sweep rampage eviscerator bros is it over?
Not really, now you're free to use those points elsewhere
merry flume
Is it intended that trappers still hit you through hordes
and through cover if you aren't 100% behind it
median steeple
Is it intended that trappers still hit you through hordes
probably or they just forgot about it
either could be true
median steeple
bring back the tornado guys
merry flume
god i wanna try manstopper double barrel
misty nova
Remove the entire enemy type
They'll give it a cloaking device, but it won't shoot through enemies
merry flume
just bring back gutter runners and get rid of trappers
misty nova
Fuck GR
frosty herald
id rather have dregs with mancatchers
merry flume
hmmmmmmmmmmm
median steeple
ball taser
visual stream
Recon 7a only needed a little but it looks like they gave it a lot, I'm excited to play 😈
placid fiber
Is this the rise of the recon patch? lol
merry flume
i unironically want to see more gunpsykers after the recon buff
visual stream
i unironically want to see more gunpsykers after the recon buff
I'm gonna be one of them best believe
After I try it on vet first
median steeple
I wonder how bp plays on psyker
spare talon
good update
frosty herald
a crusher being stunned
merry flume
:)
viral hare
columnus is still prob gonna be one of the best options for gunker
median steeple
good update
use it on a rager please
viral hare
who knows tho
median steeple
I can't believe it works
frosty herald
good update
i do like 300 damage per heavy bash
visual stream
good update
Living up to the riot mini theme of the update, love that
final lake
What has happened to Invocation Of Death? Can’t see anything in the patch notes but it’s broken
merry flume
a crusher being stunned
it also stuns bulwarks even if you hit the shield :)
visual stream
"peacefully" "correcting" the rabble
spare talon
holy shit
its like
it fucking throws ragers on their ass
sterile basalt
holy shit
its like
it fucking throws ragers on their ass
HH autoguns’ stock bash also grounds ragers
The issue is that u need to charge the atk to windup
red mesa
<:ThinkHmm:638927740531376138> hmmmmmmmmmmm
are these new weapons any good?
median steeple
the sound the bolt pistols special makes is hilarious
sterile basalt
are these new weapons any good?
Shock maul is strong
placid fiber
People are saying the bolt pistol is good
median steeple
the sauls are pretty good yes
sterile basalt
All 4 are good
spare talon
merry flume
are these new weapons any good?
i personally like them because ||it seems like they're just using vermintide weapon animations as the base and tweaking them||
sterile basalt
Mk3 maul is A+~S tier imo
visual stream
If you chastise for the attack speed does the shotgun bash faster
spare talon
lemme test
frosty herald
what the fuck
median steeple
ok but why did he fly away like that?
misty nova
Schrodinger's bolt pistol
spare talon
nah i dont see any difference
placid fiber
ok but why did he fly away like that?
Fatshark coding lol
Remember the hounds?
I still remember the spacebound hounds
placid fiber
Oh, that
visual stream
nah i dont see any difference
Boowompium
visual stream
I'm guessing not but does the bash cleave? Like would it knock a whole rager sqaud over?
placid fiber
https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/i8TXWz3cR3iO8_FY6/d1337wL3...
rip wrist
median steeple
No I don't think it has cleave
viral hare
https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/i8TXWz3cR3iO8_FY6/d1337wL3...
wrist bones turned to dust after firing this weapon
spare talon
visual stream
No I don't think it has cleave
Definitely would've been op if so
median steeple
spare talon
the first one i rolled for testing
placid fiber
So what weapons did the zealot get altogether?
median steeple
So what weapons did the zealot get altogether?
every weapon besides the pickaxe
placid fiber
Well I might have fun with the shock mauls, when I do finally test some out
Tazing enemies is pretty fun, ngl
The double barreled shotgun would be more of a meme in my hands
spare talon
i mean i know i got pretty bad stats on mine but damn
bolt pistol is ass
north sedge
🤔
frosty herald
it kinda just exists
merry flume
the electric dot from the smaul seems to vary depending on how long you have it held
frosty herald
the bolt pistol has a lower ammo pool than bolter
spare talon
the bolt pistol has a lower ammo pool than bolter
yeah its crazy
visual stream
the bolt pistol has a lower ammo pool than bolter
Is it at least better at taking out elites and specials?
median steeple
bolt pistol is just kind of there but it's a decent weapon
median steeple
but if you want a sidearm that packs a punch just use zarona
visual stream
That's pretty sad
frosty herald
it really just exists
merry flume
it makes big explosion and bleeds enemies
visual stream
You would think the point of a more stable bolt gun would be pinpointing priority enemies
median steeple
it can oneshot elites and specials but you gotta try harder than the revolver
placid fiber
bolt pistol looks like a meme weapon, compared to the bolter, imo
frosty herald
it makes big explosion and bleeds enemies
if the proximity and bleed synergized it wouldve been genuinely cool
merry flume
this straight up doesn't work besides the range increase
placid fiber
That sounds so cool on paper
frosty herald
this straight up doesn't work besides the range increase
like imagine if it had actual proximity explosions which did damage that procced bleed
merry flume
we won't know until it's fixed 😔
steep flame
I think the main draw of the bolt pistol is its pullout time
spare talon
the bolt pistol has an inherent 5% crit chance bonus
viral hare
both boltors are in this weird area where they gotta feel unwieldy because it makes sense but its hard to make them strong without making them too strong
visual stream
Another swing and a miss for the "actually cool blessings" category 
steep flame
I think the main draw of the bolt pistol is its pullout time
Its sorta just a quickdraw bolter that cant go auto
placid fiber
Another swing and a miss for the "actually cool blessings" category <a:blobpensi...
fatshark is good at that
merry flume
at least run n gun got a buff
spare talon
by like 2%
merry flume
which would make the agri revolver actually kinda fun
solar gorge
main draw of the bolt pistol is that it's a bolt pistol ngl
still quartz
Literally me this update:
Friendship ended with Kantrael, double-barrel is now my new best friend
visual stream
Something something let it dual wield
still quartz
the shot after bashing is the best part
Got that gangsta fire flick
placid fiber
My kitty got a little bit too curious about the peanut butter I had... so I... um... well... gave her a taste of it >.>'
median steeple
ok this is fun
do it twice for a goofy looking animation
placid fiber
https://tenor.com/view/gangsta-thug-life-9mm-rap-slovakia-gif-16234344
That you're all out of bacon!
frosty herald
its called
placid fiber
median steeple
fatshark just can't help themselves and gave the bolter a slight gangster grip
despite all my rage
misty mason
pee nut butt er
I ardley know er
placid fiber
That's how you break your wrists after all lol
Gangsta grip that 12 gauge shotgun... in the form of a pistol...
Surely you wrist can handle holding it wrong...
placid fiber
https://tenor.com/view/smack-no-cookies-kitty-gif-12778930
Pretty much, only I got her side with the knife I had the peanut butter on lol
And she got peanut butter all over her side
She was not a happy camper after that... <.<'
It was a plastic knife
visual stream
Skill issue on her part
placid fiber