start run of new map
instantly get barreled by an ogryn
#zealot-class
lusty turtle
warm sluice
It's just a mission.
lusty turtle
the more things change the more things stay the same
warm sluice
Yeah the start of the new mission kinda sucks, no space to move or you fall down.
ashen quartz
+crit damage is a worthless perk
lusty turtle
i love the start but people can't not barrel eachother for some reason
radiant nacelle
Hey, does anyone know if blaze away is fixed on flamer yet?
ember yew
Hey, does anyone know if blaze away is fixed on flamer yet?
you mean overpressure i guess
radiant nacelle
Oh sorry
frosty herald
this seems good enough
ember yew
I meant overpressure ty for reading my mind lol
'Point Blank' weapon blessing: Fixed an issue where the blessing failed to trigger from kills with the primary weapon.
'Take a Swing' weapon blessing: Fixed an issue where the bonus weakspot damage failed to be added upon triggering the blessing.
seems like no
radiant nacelle
Man I'm so glad they fixed point blank
sterile stone
So the shock baton is only useful against big targets I'm guessing?
warm sluice
I feel like the Smaul is less useful against big targets.é
vestal pine
I feel like the Smaul is less useful against big targets.é
no rending with megamind gif
warm sluice
It's somewhat good against the big boiz but it rocks at horde clearing.
sterile stone
Word
warm sluice
What blessing should I use on it for Rending?
vestal pine
really really good blessing pool
warm sluice
Goddamn, you got them all lmao.
warm sluice
Is Stunned Expression good? I'm stuck with it.
warm sluice
Oh.
vestal pine
its not entropic tho
which doesnt have a cooldown
and gives you power
for parrying
warm sluice
Is Entropic good?<
warm sluice
It seems very effective against Ragers.
vestal pine
i just confirmed myself that the base crusher is bonkers
warm sluice
At least, in the test chambers.
sterile stone
The good ole souls parry system making a cameo as a blessing
ember yew
vestal pine
ember yew
yes, this is crit damage, rip
vestal pine
one of the most anticipated ones on my list
if this stuns a crusher
it's best
]if it doesnt
sterile stone
So Smol has a diverse set of builds you can kit it out for then?
vestal pine
probably trash
vestal pine
sterile stone
Falter I mean.
Something like this?
vestal pine
welp
warm sluice
Looks good but I couldn't tell ya yet, I haven't tested it enough.
warm sluice
I feel like High Voltage kinda sucks though.
fleet zealot
falter just ignores resistance, it doesn't add any stagger
vestal pine
falter just ignores resistance, it doesn't add any stagger
i know
i still feel shafted
warm sluice
Anyone knows if Blazing Piety is actually bugged in game?
It doesn't do anything in the grinder.
By the way @vestal pine , Stunned Expression has a 25% chance to "Stun", as in electrocute, enemies everytime you stagger them.
Seems to be kinda trash and no proc that often.
The enemies you're able to stagger with the Smaul don't usually need to get staggered.
grizzled aspen
Finally, gun zealout nerf.
sterile stone
falter just ignores resistance, it doesn't add any stagger
I dunno if the base baton can stun a crusher
But it def does with falter on
frosty herald
Timed block is better
warm sluice
Nope it can't.
sterile stone
Nope it can't.
You sure?
vestal pine
By the way <@450157456157573151> , Stunned Expression has a 25% chance to "Stun"...
half of them trash againnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
grizzled aspen
No more fotf bonus rending on guns.
vestal pine
rending seems good
sterile stone
warm sluice
I tested it and it doesn't seem like it can.
sterile stone
He kept spazzing out when I tazed him
warm sluice
Unless I'm mistaken but I doubt it.
vestal pine
highvol just makes any light attack chain 25% damage
sterile stone
But I don't know what blessing to replace it with
vestal pine
broken
warm sluice
@vestal pine What's broken?
vestal pine
high voltage
since light also has light electricity effect
every subsequent hits get 25% damage bonus
warm sluice
So High Voltage is good?
vestal pine
its less than skullcrusher's 80% but seems great
sterile stone
So replace falter with high voltage?
vestal pine
falter is ass
sterile stone
And just light spam?
vestal pine
from what i can tell
just
its the same as any other falter on all the ranged
useless and sad
gotta be shitting me
warm sluice
Falter would be really useful on Power Mauls though.
Hey on a side note, I can finally destroy Maulers' heads with the smaul.
vestal pine
Falter would be really useful on Power Mauls though.
it doesnt since it doesnt have the stagger BP of any
enemies that matter
from what i can tell
maybe pauls can use it since the explosion
but not sauls
play antax also
warm sluice
Noice.
vestal pine
lmfao
misty nova
Yeah they saw that Rashad was meta and decided to shake things up a bit
vestal pine
all jokes aside
i think its just bugged
its worse rn
also
fotf cancels heavy attacks now
this is
fucked up
vast basin
Wtf why would they do that
warm sluice
What do you mean?
vestal pine
nvm
warm sluice
Cancel how?
warm sluice
Oh so it's bugged then, gotch'ya.
vestal pine
axes
warm sluice
Anyone got the bug where you character starts spazzing out like crazy and you can't attack and you move without pressing keys?
frosty herald
A full wipe
frosty herald
Im already seeing where this new map is going
sterile stone
So besides high voltage what's the other sought after blessing for Smol?
vestal pine
Im already seeing where this new map is going
hourglass but white
skullcrusher still seems good
warm sluice
Eh I like the new map, but the beginning sucks ass.
Too tight spaces with possibility to fall off the map.
radiant nacelle
What changed for crusher?
misty nova
Nothing iirc
radiant nacelle
You mean attack speed? That's pretty stupid
radiant nacelle
Any idea how much?
vestal pine
also
rending is
just
bait
this is
what is this
what is this fatshark
why
even
misty nova
Not mentioned on the notes ?
vestal pine
yeah
the
rending shit is
bait
lmao
why
god fucking dammit
skullcrusher does more damage
just cause it has great carapace pen and skullcrusher just 1.8xes
spare dome
double damage with voltage
vestal pine
im mad
oppertunist = high voltage damage
as long as you have perfect pen
what is this
oh i think my game crashed from the shittalking
thats something
frosty herald
So we back in the mine
acoustic dune
Has the game updated?
frosty herald
Yeah
vestal pine
initial thoughts i don't care for the first smaul
the indignatus:?
acoustic dune
initial thoughts i don't care for the first smaul
So are the weapons added?
vestal pine
or the crusher mini?
fleet zealot
So are the weapons added?
yes
fleet zealot
the indignatus:?
shockmaul
agni
love the double barrel tho it's damage falls off a wall
bolt pistol is alright
merry flume
i really enjoy shock maul idk which one i like the most yet
vestal pine
love the double barrel tho it's damage falls off a wall
koreans munching on it cause its worse than kickback
or something
idk havent got one
spent my savings on saul
fleet zealot
ahh yes a weapon is bad cause it's not better than the best overtuned shotgun in the game
vestal pine
ahh yes a weapon is bad cause it's not better than the best overtuned shotgun in...
people saying its bad cause it cant kill shit in ranged btw
acoustic dune
Is the double shotty fun?
proud scroll
acoustic dune
Golly
merry flume
yeah if only zealot had like a ranged option tied to grenades that was like
super overpowered or something
acoustic dune
yeah if only zealot had like a ranged option tied to grenades that was like
Just go still a ogryn weapon or smth
radiant nacelle
I too wish I could have a revolver that consumed my grenade slot
merry flume
might be rool
proud scroll
Are the new mini mauls any good?
merry flume
whenever i sacrifice a blessing i crash 😔
merry flume
Are the new mini mauls any good?
its just a small crusher
vestal pine
worse crusher with more blessings to paly around i think
merry flume
so yea
vestal pine
i have decided that the high voltage is good
falter and the rending talent is a bait
merry flume
people fail to realize that it doesn't matter if the weapon is good or not if ur playing zealot LMAO just crit CDR build and literally anything is op
proud scroll
Anyone using the sawed off?
vestal pine
people fail to realize that it doesn't matter if the weapon is good or not if ur...
points at catachan sword to a crusher
proud scroll
not sure what melee to pair it with
merry flume
points at catachan sword to a crusher
points at catachan sword to literally anything else
radiant nacelle
How is it at horde clear? Maybe it goes good with knife
vestal pine
points at catachan sword to literally anything else
kekw
merry flume
in my opinion (right) every new weapon is good and fun
merry flume
i didn't check to see if they have meme level 2 unique blessing
vestal pine
DB does
merry flume
perfect strike on smaul please :)
frosty herald
I wonder when people will discover how broken timed block stun is on the mauls
vestal pine
I wonder when people will discover how broken timed block stun is on the mauls
not long probably
merry flume
its good but i wish the duration was longer
fleet zealot
i hate the recon buff already
vestal pine
this is the best shit i have i think
fleet zealot
so obnoxious
median steeple
vestal pine
whats bad about it?
shy badge
merry flume
scattershot manstopper on db
vestal pine
merry flume
proud scroll
what are the best sawed off bessings
woeful oyster
Rip fury of the faithful
merry flume
both
ripe heron
Btw, the double shot is much worse minimum pellet count than single, so use single shot for medium range.
merry flume
as a little treat
vestal pine
both now
tired kindle
merry flume
frosty herald
Btw, the double shot is much worse minimum pellet count than single, so use sing...
You need to put in effort to get full bore to work
paper pine
Are shock mauls just another crusher for all classes?
frosty herald
Scattershot and the reload blessing are much better
ashen quartz
am i tripping or did the patch notes say PS was getting crit chance, not dmg?
tired kindle
if its crit chance im down
merry flume
Are shock mauls just another crusher for all classes?
a crusher that can give 2 global damage buffs to anyone that uses it
tired kindle
to swap out wrath
sour path
i could only afford one cause i hadn't played in a long time and kinda lucked out
south folio
am i tripping or did the patch notes say PS was getting crit chance, not dmg?
good notice
yeah there's a discrepancy
heady abyss
This is based on Necromunda enforcers armor
vestal pine
a crusher that can give 2 global damage buffs to anyone that uses it
skullcrusher is still good so idk
merry flume
i could only afford one cause i hadn't played in a long time and kinda lucked ou...
pretty solid, i think damage vs maniacs actually allow you to oneshot them?
vestal pine
oh yeah they also forgot to put in the -30% spread
ember yew
am i tripping or did the patch notes say PS was getting crit chance, not dmg?
yes i tested it already
frozen glen
oh boy extra crit damage
median steeple
Aw damn fury now only affects melee
surreal shore
‘Chastise the Wicked’ and ‘Fury of the Faithful’
100% Rending -> 100% Melee Rending
Dev Note: This talent was always intended to emphasize the melee prowess of Zealots allowing them to charge up to enemies and devastating them with their melee attacks. This change is made to bring this talent back to its intended purpose.
ember yew
it does not give any CH
merry flume
skullcrusher is still good so idk
yeah but everyone runs skull (i hope)
surreal shore
This one fucking change just killed heavy swords
surreal shore
Thanks fatshark
frozen glen
it did not
surreal shore
Now I have to mag dump entire 4 bolter mags to kill 3 crushers
frosty herald
Entropic is nasty ngl
I dont know if you know
But you can spam stun rager hordes
merry flume
25% power and a cc'ed enemy lmao
median steeple
Absolute cinema
merry flume
But you can spam stun rager hordes
does the stun do DOT?
frosty herald
Idunno
ripe quest
Cool changes, pretty neat. Then I saw FotF's nerf, a bold decision.
merry flume
cause the dot would do 25% more damage 
frosty herald
But you stop entire hordes in its tracks
south folio
Cool changes, pretty neat. Then I saw FotF's nerf, a bold decision.
rip your crusher patrol annihilation dream
merry flume
FotF nerf is sad but like....zealot melee during fotf is busted so
ripe quest
rip your crusher patrol annihilation dream
I cannot believe that they removed the armor downgrade from the unlimited cleave weapon
south folio
it's so joever
dense field
FotF nerf is sad but like....zealot melee during fotf is busted so
Not really, it's just one hit
left iron
How could they
merry flume
Not really, it's just one hit
one hit then improved attack speed
dense field
Meh
median steeple
rest in piss dollar store melta
merry flume
maybe being a onetrick zealot is my blessing this time around, because i can easily work around the changes
especially with a mini crusher
fleet zealot
error code 2006 then error code 2007 😦
frosty herald
The pickaxe is hella fun ngl
fleet zealot
never change fatshark
merry flume
error code 2006 then error code 2007 😦
modded?
royal vortex
Cool changes, pretty neat. Then I saw FotF's nerf, a bold decision.
i wished for controversial balance changes. i am only somewhat disappointed
dense field
What
vestal pine
error code 2006 then error code 2007 😦
2008 when
surreal shore
You needed FOTF for flamer...
dense field
It still works
median steeple
yeah you dont need fotf for flamer you just cant murder god with it anymore
merry flume
gone are the days of trying to kill crushers in a tight spot only for my screen to be orange for 5 whole minutes
frosty herald
Theres a whole slew of changes coming to basic weapons
dense field
It won't melt crushers anymore but
surreal shore
I guess I need to rev my chainaxe a begilion TIMES XD
median steeple
how is the bolt pistol? vet chat seems displeased with it
frosty herald
They barely got taxe changes through
merry flume
chainaxe deletes crushers
proper crane
Anyone else feel like Invocation of Death got nerfed?
ashen quartz
i hope the revolver gets nerfed, the meltdowns would be so funny
south folio
so joever
ripe quest
I am excited to look at the code because the game is already just outright lying to us in some ways
Gotta check and see
median steeple
aight time to raw dog these mods
south folio
I am excited to look at the code because the game is already just outright lying...
back to the mines
merry flume
up to how many stacks 
royal vortex
probably 16
merry flume
wtf i love boltpistol now
radiant nacelle
Gotta check and see
Please let us know what you find! I'm v curious about this kind of stuff
merry flume
lacerate meme is ok on guns
frosty herald
up to how many stacks <:devious:1189386139740672073>
Lacerate zealots going crazy rn
left iron
So whats the blessings for bolt pistol? DA + surgical?
surreal shore
How many blessings the new mauls got guys ?
vestal pine
Lacerate zealots going crazy rn
koreans going crazy rnb
median steeple
So whats the blessings for bolt pistol? DA + surgical?
seems that way
I wonder how recon is doing now
ripe quest
up to how many stacks <:devious:1189386139740672073>
Either 10 (default) or 16
ripe quest
DoT caps are based on the weapon
left iron
Has anyone tried this one yet?
merry flume
i would try it just because of the bleed blessings
you can just spray into a horde and watch it die
ripe quest
Has anyone tried this one yet?
Mm bleed grenades on the bolt pistol
frosty herald
Josho said lethal proximity has an arming distance
median steeple
it's the same arming distance as the normal bolt shots I'd imagine
ah ok so it was that mod
merry flume
im crafting™️ a new boltpistol to try rn
luck has been on my side, stil got like 20k plasteel
heady abyss
what perks should I aim for on Indigantus maul?
vestal pine
okay
royal vortex
Josho said lethal proximity has an arming distance
no the bolters do
merry flume
skullcrusher + high voltage
merry flume
or entropic for the meme
frosty herald
O
royal vortex
im assuming lethal proximity lets you ignore the arm distance for explosions
gleaming dove
Not really used it at all whats good for the flamer?
frosty herald
So it turns the bolt pistol into proximity grenades?
heady abyss
skullcrusher + high voltage
what about profits? anti carapace?
fleet zealot
alrigth i'm convinced teh worst thing of this patch is the recon buffs jfc it's like 2 vets a game
and it's the loudest, most obnoxious gun adn they always use to to focus everything in your melee range
royal vortex
So it turns the bolt pistol into proximity grenades?
probably gives it a bit more cc utility yeah, but i super doubt it's on the level of a frag
left iron
im assuming lethal proximity lets you ignore the arm distance for explosions
Yeah, this seems to be the case. It does make a decent-ish stagger AoE with very low damage as well, im not sure if it inflicts statuses for everyone staggered though
merry flume
what about profits? anti carapace?
up 2 u but i always go flak unyield
frosty herald
probably gives it a bit more cc utility yeah, but i super doubt it's on the leve...
Might need to try it out then
Hm
left iron
Oh, it increases the explosion AoE for the stagger, but doesnt increase the damage AoE
frosty herald
Bleed and lethal proximity lmao
lusty turtle
Mm bleed grenades on the bolt pistol
don't think the explosion spreads bleed
left iron
Yeah thats only direct hits
merry flume
take ur bets on how awful this will be bricked
median steeple
holy shit I HATE the new stat spots
left iron
Mobility and pen switching places threw me off lmao
median steeple
I was staring at them like "where is mobility?"
zinc talon
median steeple
certified fatshark update
misty nova
Yup, broken atm
lusty turtle
how people finding the new weapons
royal vortex
how people finding the new weapons
SHIT
frosty herald
Fun
royal vortex
(i'm 20 mins from installing)
merry flume
godroll
frosty herald
The pickaxe special is hella good
median steeple
I'm scared to even try to upgrade this
lusty turtle
(i'm 20 mins from installing)
well guys, the servers are shutting in 20 minutes
frosty herald
Havent tried my shotgun into a match but it does a a shitton of damage
lusty turtle
games been fun
royal vortex
killing you
zinc talon
can get em from brunt obvz
left iron
A necessary casualty
zinc talon
oranging the first couple picks I got gave me 4s of some kind on all 3 I raised
lusty turtle
I'm scared to even try to upgrade this
if it bricks hold onto it
zinc talon
this axe is still 100% across all stats
I figured it was a glitch that'd resolve when I reopened but nope
frosty herald
if it bricks hold onto it
Are you allowed to say how much our existing weapons will change?
lusty turtle
nope
median steeple
it's savable for now but man
left iron
Oh god, the server does not like mass buying greys anymore
zinc talon
lusty turtle
i can just say strawhat has confirmed locks will be removed
median steeple
why is gloryhunter a thing man
frosty herald
Hmm
median steeple
does it actually work in game tho?
frosty herald
Yes
royal vortex
i can just say strawhat has confirmed locks will be removed
can you comment on how fucking bizarre it is that there's a group of people mad at the idea of crafting as a progression system that takes some amount of time to get a weapon
rather than just removing locks
and calling it a day
frosty herald
The only thing it does is make your weapon have 0% stats
lusty turtle
can you comment on how fucking bizarre it is that there's a group of people mad ...
people are weird man
median steeple
oh lame
zinc talon
by removing locks what do yall mean
lusty turtle
some people like destinys weapon unlock system
zinc talon
weapons will go above 80%?
lusty turtle
and thats like, self torture
frosty herald
by removing locks what do yall mean
Blessings and perks
spare dome
some people like destiny
frosty herald
Freely choose 4 of em
median steeple
wait what unlock system in destiny?
zinc talon
oh snap
lusty turtle
zealot is dead i'm back to my roots
royal vortex
lockless darktide crafting sounds like an exercise in nihilism
royal vortex
completely nonlinear progression on filling out a stickerbook
with 0 constraints
like there wouldn't even be the false pretense of steady progress. u couldnt even lie to urself
south folio
fucked up that fatshark is taking their time instead of going for the quick and worse option
spare dome
bUt ThEn I cAn CrAfT tRu EnDgAmE wEpS
merry flume
LETHAL PROXIMITY DOESN'T PROC IN THE TRANING ZONE AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
royal vortex
bUt ThEn I cAn CrAfT tRu EnDgAmE wEpS
i absolutely hate the way people evaluate progression in a tide game
royal vortex
the level system isn't like really the intended "progression" if you're putting in more than the bare minimum to get to 30
thick inlet
Are those like perma broken?
lusty turtle
like there wouldn't even be the false pretense of steady progress. u couldnt eve...
I cant comment beyond "removing locks is part of but not the whole change"
merry flume
also bleed stacks on boltpistol is 16
vestal pine
Are those like perma broken?
my existing antax broke as well so no probably
median steeple
guhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh I hate gloryhunter!
royal vortex
the items themselves are more where ur actually getting stuff that lasts. i think part of the fun is trying to acquire said item and they should make the item progression part fun rather than removing it entirely
zinc talon
some people chase numbers
merry flume
average darktide player
royal vortex
some people chase numbers
it's bizarre
warm sluice
Ayo wtf?
spare dome
a lot of it just circles back to "but my power fantasy"
royal vortex
progression in a game is fun as like a way to make sure you have some sort of purpose
but it's not like... the motive force for playing for me, ever lol
latent vortex
Fuck. No penetration allowed
bold dirge
One message removed from a suspended account.
latent vortex
progression in a game is fun as like a way to make sure you have some sort of pu...
Imagine enjoying gameplay?
lusty turtle
I, personally, would rather they remove progression entirely and just give us weapons to mod and play around with
buuuuut i know some people like grind so i wouldn't be surprised if they keep soemthing in
royal vortex
Imagine enjoying gameplay?
no. that's absurd. i need to make another 4,000 word forum post about how i hate fatshark
oak ermine
Removal of FotF having armour degrade effect on ranged weapons was long overdue
royal vortex
I, personally, would rather they remove progression entirely and just give us we...
progression comes with some fun concepts for playing around with weapon customization. generally speaking if you just "had the weapon" you'd have less room for cool stuff
there's 2 problems that make this point irrelevant in the context of darktide but like
u could make it cool
the progression is nonlinear and just annoying if you care too much about it and a lot of the blessings... aren't interesting. but if these worked more reasonably you could make the progression for items a fun part of the game that adds more to it rather than detracting
frosty herald
let me earn weapon camos by using them
royal vortex
really i don't even like levels that much because they serve the purpose of existing to introduce players to the mechanics of a class more slowly rather than just dumping a bunch of shit on them immediately but like they exist for a reason
lusty turtle
really i don't even like levels that much because they serve the purpose of exis...
yeee i just kinda wish lvls was how we got weapons, and then when we got weapons u just
put what u want on them
fleet zealot
the sheer mass this thing must have if an ogryn has to wield slowly
lusty turtle
buuut i know thats prob never happening
royal vortex
put what u want on them
yeah, i just think that sort of decoupling probably leads to weird results
spare dome
the current system absolutely sucks. it is a casino. but we have all the parts to make an actual progression system with meaningful choices to make on every earned weapon. its lazy and fucking boring to think the solution is "well just let me walk up and press JACKPOT whenever i want and thatll fix the odds"
royal vortex
progression is kinda the price u pay for that coolness of modifying
frosty herald
the heavy pickaxe is hella clunky
fleet zealot
https://tenor.com/view/may-guilty-gear-guilty-gear-may-gif-25895191
EXACTLY
royal vortex
the current system absolutely sucks. it is a casino. but we have all the parts t...
yeah
ripe quest
don't think the explosion spreads bleed
I haven't even opened the game and something has been added to the grudge book.
frosty herald
but the leather wrap pickaxe is so fun
lusty turtle
progression is kinda the price u pay *for* that coolness of modifying
see i'm used to tactical shooters where this isn't the case
u just sorta
take waht you want and run with it
fleet zealot
frosty herald
imagine weapon points
you have a set amount and blessings or perks take a certain amount
fleet zealot
like, the horde clear combo is, sloppy and slow
but it's so satisfying
i feel like my game is lagging but no my ogryn is literally just carrying a ton of steel
royal vortex
take waht you want and run with it
see that works when ur changing the attachments on a gun but we know fatshark isn't ever going to let us take off the shitass ilas scope
😔
ripe quest
yeee i just kinda wish lvls was how we got weapons, and then when we got weapons...
A WoM system pretty much. w/ the current system I'd want that but one of the things you get to customize is the moveset. Like w/ a Mk I Clobber you start with the Mk I Clobber's model and moveset but you can spend x amount of the weapon points for leveling to swap it to a Mk II moveset. Then you also spend points for perks, blessings, and ironing out/buffing stats.
fleet zealot
saw my teammate with a crit hammer oh nyo
royal vortex
im so mad they took away slap -> punch doing literally anything on mk2 club
left iron
Im guessing something like this is okay for the new shotty?
royal vortex
it's been over half a year. i will not forget
frosty herald
Get the unique reload blessing
royal vortex
Im guessing something like this is okay for the new shotty?
yeah i'd probs play around with blessings a bit
frosty herald
royal vortex
adult baby
frosty herald
How the fuck lmfao
left iron
I wanna see how fast the reload is with speedloader and both barrels
royal vortex
there's a closed community who has access to shirtless
frozen glen
I wanna see how fast the reload is with speedloader and both barrels <a:NODDERS:...
very fast
frosty herald
Theres an unique reload if its fast enough
lusty turtle
A WoM system pretty much. w/ the current system I'd want that but one of the thi...
athanor my beloved
glass pelican
rate this one
fleet zealot
crit hammer did not help us
warm sluice
For those who have experimented with the Smaul, what would the best blessings be?
tired kindle
i can just say strawhat has confirmed locks will be removed
o.O
lusty turtle
are they adding more slide attacks
Im certainly requesting more, wont promise anything
royal vortex
Im certainly requesting more, wont promise anything
hell yeah
left iron
Can anyone confirm the existence of flechette on the new shotty?
I have not updated mods yet
north sedge
Im certainly requesting more, wont promise anything
ok but can they please add back ranged to chastise and then take it away again a day later, i demand other's pain
zinc talon
not enough time
make a hype post on the launcher about it and give it a long holiday weekend
that'll get the sweaties properly putting it into their muscle memory again
then remove the ability and leave the launcher post up
frosty herald
They need to change barrel placement for the new map
merry flume
Can anyone confirm the existence of flechette on the new shotty?
it does
lusty turtle
ok but can they please add back ranged to chastise and then take it away again a...
I'll also nerf zerona
merry flume
it has run n gun on it as well
north sedge
I'll also nerf zerona
make it so it every zarona has terrifying barrage locked in automatically
merry flume
free 12% damage for just sprinting at someone and shooting in their face
merry flume
its only 25% rending
i mean if ur using duelist it wouldn't be bad
it is a finesse weapon anyway
surreal shore
Also doenst this thing get skull fucker ?
surreal shore
So what's the build then ?
Skull fucker and extra damage on stagger ?
I mean stun ?
merry flume
possibly, it's too early to really lock in
hushed knoll
make it so it every zarona has terrifying barrage locked in automatically
PLUH
DAMMIT I THOUGHT YOU WERE ICE
@left iron PLUH
merry flume
deathspitter and double barrel on shotgun might actually fuck though
hushed knoll
No.
north sedge
i can only imagine being PLUH now
left iron
vestal pine
hearing about
the crit reduction talent being nerfed
to 1 per swing
jnstead of 1 per enemy hit
so no more infinity swings evi
north sedge
i can only hope that is true
distant lagoon
Is update here?
obsidian prairie
Yes
vast basin
When people ask here instead of just checking service updates 
spare dome
hm
acoustic dune
The pocket bolty is such joy to use
spare dome
so my veteran and only my veteran is hard crashing lobbies
median steeple
most fun with a weapon I've had the pleasure of using since release
acoustic dune
Btw has anyone learned which mod crash the game
median steeple
weapon customization
left iron
I sold my grey items on vet alone and made 1 mil ordos
final belfry
did anyone notice an unusual delay in the new shock maul chains?
specifically relinking from H2 into L1 or vice versa depending on mk
frosty herald
Fucking hell the placement in the new map is dogshit
distant lagoon
IT IS SO OVER
north sedge
haven't toyed with the maul yet
ornate bone
what
frozen glen
yam's lobbies are cursed
distant lagoon
Also did they not literally say that it was intended
north sedge
IT IS SO OVER
ornate bone
ur trolling if u actually think fotf is bad now
median steeple
how are the movesets on each variant of the maul
vast basin
Also did they not literally say that it was intended
Well if you read the dev note yeah it was intended
frosty herald
yam's lobbies are cursed
Im so insanely slow with the pickaxe
north sedge
ur trolling if u actually think fotf is bad now
frosty herald
Like 0 movement speed
median steeple
NO IM OUT OF MATS!
left iron
Lmao poor
ripe quest
Also did they not literally say that it was intended
Wrong type of "intended". It's intended as a feature but its current balance was not.
left iron
I am ordo locked once again
distant lagoon
I mean specifically rending on ranged was intended, something like that was said in patches long ago
coarse birch
i spent like 5 mil dockets and 70k plasteel to get everything
left iron
ripe quest
Wait it gets Man-Stopper??? Unlimited cleave higher-than-kickback shot on a weapon that builds Scattershot like nothing?
frozen glen
im going to use the knife on yamato for trolling me
frosty herald
I swapped to shotgun zealot
acoustic dune
Golly
distant lagoon
FINALLY, BOLT PISTOL
coarse birch
Wait it gets Man-Stopper??? Unlimited cleave higher-than-kickback shot on a weap...
RIp everything in a cone
ornate bone
i have like 12k ordos rn :(((
ember yew
time for +30% ordos farm
left iron
If i sell my thammer collection, im sure i'll find at least 2 mil ordos
But doing that manually
UUUUUGH
ember yew
frosty herald
Theres so many ways to build the new shotgun
acoustic dune
If i sell my thammer collection, im sure i'll find at least 2 mil ordos
Why do you need such big collection
ember yew
Wait it gets Man-Stopper??? Unlimited cleave higher-than-kickback shot on a weap...
looks funny
left iron
Idk, i just bought ~200 thammers every week in my search for the perfect crucis
ember yew
still, how much does the Manstopper increase cleave
acoustic dune
Idk, i just bought ~200 thammers every week in my search for the perfect crucis
Golly
ember yew
are there numbers somewhere
ripe quest
Agri Railgun is getting a new brother, the Ironhelm "Blender"
acoustic dune
I happy with my 3 thunderhammer I have
ripe quest
still, how much does the Manstopper increase cleave
Unlimited
vestal pine
still, how much does the Manstopper increase cleave
around 20 idk
coarse birch
manstopper is unlimited
left iron
This will have to be put on hold for now
ember yew
ornate bone
awooga
ripe quest
so if you one shot stuff
It's unfortunate that the DB and ranged FotF cannot exist at the same time. I would've enjoyed a week or two of unlimited cleave Crusher 1 shots
acoustic dune
This will have to be put on hold for now
God I wish using the thunder hammer was fun
coarse birch
It's unfortunate that the DB and ranged FotF cannot exist at the same time. I wo...
this would be so gross
left iron
God I wish using the thunder hammer was fun
Preference issue
acoustic dune
Preference issue
Right now I am just using a smol knife
north sedge
my condolences
ripe quest
I do recall having a full in-depth theoretical of if Psyker got a man-stopper shotgun, I imagine something can be salvaged w/ the DB existing
coarse birch
yeah we do finally have a shotgun
ripe quest
Ahh right, Assail
coarse birch
and true aim
left iron
Finally, our noodle arms are deemed strong enough to handle the shotguns that were taken away from us in beta
coarse birch
after special or using the perfect block blessing you get 25% more damage
while they are under electrocute status
once the effect wears off youll lose the damage
but nice pairing with perfect block
and generally
falter also allows you to stagger ragers with the heavy now
out of combos
if you care
left iron
frosty herald
I hate gunners
acoustic dune
Just doge the shots
north sedge
<a:NODDERS:1073320123227713608>
ok but no bleed 😔
acoustic dune
Damn
left iron
ok but no bleed 😔
You're right, switching it up
north sedge
You're right, switching it up
fleet zealot
ogryn big win this patch
acoustic dune
ogryn big win this patch
What did the ogryn get?
stable cypress
fat rip to flamer lol, hopefully it gets reworked/redesigned in future
fleet zealot
the heavy pickaxe feels like i'm wielding an anchor
ember yew
ogryn big win this patch
i feel like only one pickaxe is usable
fleet zealot
ember yew
and 2 others are just way too vertical
north sedge
flamer still kills everything besides crushers
acoustic dune
I only saw the m8necraft picakxe
frozen glen
theres also minecraft double barrel shotgun
fleet zealot
What did the ogryn get?
fixes, no longer body blocking shots from players, and 3 pickaxes ranging from miner ogryn's first pickaxe to "this is a fucking anchor don't lie to me fatshark"
ripe quest
flamer just does what it was designed to do
It only took 1.5 years
fleet zealot
yea flamer's issue isn't a "balance" problem it's a meta problem
median steeple
I don't know how I feel about the arming distance
It feels bad on the bolt pistol
opaque island
whats the opinion on the new map, is there new music for it? and whats the flamer like now?
median steeple
New map is great
radiant nacelle
Flamer isn't bad. I can just feel slightly less guilty running revolver instead. But it still melts bosses and horses excellently.
median steeple
Pubs make it a pain in the ass
fleet zealot
as you go up in difficulty and modifiers, you want to kill specs, elites and ranged
verbal briar
bolt pistol feels like a side grade to revolver?
hard nexus
Flamer isn't bad. I can just feel slightly less guilty running revolver instead...
those poor horses :(
median steeple
Glue factory
radiant nacelle
Alas horses
hard nexus
lmfao
ember yew
whats the opinion on the new map, is there new music for it? and whats the flame...
New map is fine i guess, just better to speedrun the first part, otherwise some random will blow you up with a barrel
hard nexus
need to try the new map soon
north sedge
that seems like a feature to me
opaque island
is there new music to go with it?
opaque island
need to try the new map soon
schizo pfp
hard nexus
probably gonna make a shock maul first
fleet zealot
bolt pistol feels more like
idk not a revolver
like a shotgun xd
idk how to put it
thing kicks and sways like a brick
median steeple
Aiming that thing is atrocious and I love it
hard nexus
how’s the damage
crisp furnace
thing kicks and sways like a brick
I mean kinda lore accurate
Worse than the good revolver
median steeple
Tho not one shotting a dog is sad (maybe it's because my surg is lvl 3)
verbal briar
i understand why they dont let you full auto on it but i really want it to
hard nexus
Tho not one shotting a dog is sad (maybe it's because my surg is lvl 3)
wah wah wah
so many people have been complaining about not one shotting dogs
opaque island
are recon lasguns actually viable now?
median steeple
I'm gonna feed you to a BoN
hard nexus
just melee it!!
hard nexus
I'm gonna feed you to a BoN
i’m gonna eat the BoN
median steeple
are recon lasguns actually viable now?
I heard some good things about it but have yet to try it
hard nexus
psycho do u wanna play the new map with me🥺🥺🥺
idk if i should make a shock maul or try it with my normal build first
median steeple
Gamble
hard nexus
let’s go gambling
stable cypress
aww dangit
hard nexus
aww dangit
fleet zealot
how’s the damage
could be better
fleet zealot
Tho not one shotting a dog is sad (maybe it's because my surg is lvl 3)
dogs aren't meant to be oneshottable by most range
they are infested, an armor type that is supposed to be more resistance to ranged damage and mroe vulnerable to melee
median steeple
I know but when the max stack surge + DA it's a little sad
Revolver reigns supreme for another year
frosty herald
The new map certainly exists
The shotgun is also bugged
This is just not fun to play
Dunno what happened with map philosophy after the warrens
median steeple
What's wrong with the new map?
Besides the DH spawns being bugged which is hilarious
floral burrow
The shotgun is also bugged
How is it bugged?
frosty herald
Animations breaking
frosty herald
What's wrong with the new map?
It feels like a genuine slog
And wayyy too claustrophobic
After you need to get on the carriage its a very tiny corridor where there are a bundle of spawns
You also have the open corridors with little cover
wintry forge
i got the itemization update boys
median steeple
It feels like a genuine slog
what class were you playing because earlier it sounded like you were on og?
maybe thats how it feels on that class
frosty herald
both zealot and ogryn
median steeple
the new crosshairs are great
ember yew
feels much better true
fleet zealot
Dunno what happened with map philosophy after the warrens
this is experimental iirc
they said it was gonna be a choke fest until the end and well, it is
wooden river
Anyone figure out if Stunned Expression's internal cooldown is per enemy, or just in general?
obsidian ore
What do we think about agni vs indignatus
wooden river
Actually, let's take a look
frosty herald
they said it was gonna be a choke fest until the end and well, it is
it feels not fun
obsidian ore
agni is more single target base dwith lacking horde clear imo
indignatus feels a bit more horde cleary but less damage?
frosty herald
well see what theyre doing for the itemization update if it doesnt release closely to space marine 2
slate notch
Wish me luck, gonna try this thing
crisp furnace
The map philosophy is making maps 60-120 mins long once they fix event spawns
fleet zealot
it feels not fun
i can understand it
i don't care for it much either
but it's experimental and open for tweaks
frosty herald
my first suggestion is to cut the icebreaking event and put more cover in the big slope after you ride the carriage
radiant nacelle
What's experimental?
astral hound
They killed fotf?
astral hound
It's melee rending only now, apparently
left iron
Oh no, one aspect of the ability that does almost everything was removed
It is now dead
ornate bone
i never used it with my gun anywa so i couldnot care less
wooden river
That needed to happen honestly lol
astral hound
It was fun while it lasted
crisp furnace
It’s dead because it’s also bugged
coarse birch
esp for no point investment
ornate bone
You can’t charge heavy while using it
yes u can???
crisp furnace
Not anymore
north sedge
yea i just did it too
radiant nacelle
Sure that was not intentional
fleet zealot
What's experimental?
new map
ornate bone
i have been dash charging heavies and 1hk'ing gunners fr the past hour
fleet zealot
it's meant to be way more close quarters
ornate bone
idk whats up with you game man but it works
crisp furnace
Charging axe breaks it into a light
fleet zealot
yea i just used it on my crusher
ornate bone
oh so axe
radiant nacelle
Which axe in particular?
ornate bone
thats an axe issue not a fotf issue then
tired kindle
After you need to get on the carriage its a very tiny corridor where there are a...
It's meant to feel claustrophobic
ornate bone
i love the new map honestly
fleet zealot
yea yea but like
i think it's valid to not like it
some builds will really struggle
does surge staff proc electrocute now or nah
they should really get on that
slate notch
It’s dead because it’s also bugged
What is dead? I'm kinda lost
fleet zealot
some weapons are bugged rn and can't do heavies while fotf
frosty herald
shotgun also has animation issues when at 70% extra reload speed and can bug out the model
weary verge
is it skill issue or is it super hard to headshot with the new mauls
fleet zealot
fuckin, joined game, instant loss
slate notch
some weapons are bugged rn and can't do heavies while fotf
Is this affecting the Rashad?
fleet zealot
now im stuck looking at the defeat screen like i deserved this
median steeple
wooden river
Gotta love those 3-minute Mourningstar loads after leaving a mission for... some reason
as the Mourningstar caches EVERY single asset
wooden river
Anyone figure out if Stunned Expression's internal cooldown is per enemy, or jus...
Okay
It's hard to tell if this is even proccing, because lights will just proc the electricity effect anyway
vestal pine
Gotta love those 3-minute Mourningstar loads after leaving a mission for... some...
darkchache my beloved
fleet zealot
the punishment nerf is making me cry
wooden river
Darkcache is hit-or-miss for me
vestal pine
It's hard to tell if this is even proccing, because lights will just proc the el...
just throw away that garbo talent
vlessing*
radiant nacelle
darkchache my beloved
Is this a mod for loading times?
vestal pine
line genuine garbo
you can have a parry blessing there that basically does the same thing lmfao
wooden river
It cuts down on Mourningstar load times by forcing the game NOT to load every single asset upon entering lol
wooden river
Yeah I wanted to see if this blessing was even salvageable
and now I can't even tell if it actually functions lol
vestal pine
yeah
just kinda
doesnt work really
ive seen it work on
special
it procs
but you are already electrocuting hjm
clown talent
the block one is phenomenal
radiant nacelle
^makes your game OOM often i thin
Oom?
vestal pine
opens up bulwarks
wooden river
Entropic is lovely
vestal pine
Oom?
out of memory
also
oppertunist might be bait
cause carapace damage is like 90% already on a fully pen spec'd saul
so you dont get much leverage
and from my testing
does amost the same damage with high voltage
but less consistent
if you want less consistent shit you can run skullcrusher there lol
falter is garbo, unfortunately
slate notch
How is the MK III Shock Maul? Any good?
spare dome
yes
vestal pine
the answer is yes
idk if its better than the crusher
but with great blessing pool its great
still divided on what vlessings to take though
sterile basalt
still divided on what vlessings to take though
HV + SC
verbal briar
indignatus seems better than agni?
vestal pine
HV + SC
hammerblow saul is just a worse version of crusher so
idk i like Entropic
problem is idk if its good to drop SC to get thay
wooden river
Agni is the actual mini-crusher, where you chain lights with heavies for both single target and multi-target
and you can swap between either chain seamlessly
vestal pine
Agni is the actual mini-crusher, where you chain lights with heavies for both si...
almost has same attack chains too lol
i like agni
sterile basalt
problem is idk if its good to drop SC to get thay
SC + HV is just +dmg idk why u wouldn’t
wooden river
I actually prefer Agni maul
vestal pine
SC + HV is just +dmg idk why u wouldn’t
entropic is fun
SC feels like it doesnt trigger enough but its great damage so yea
sterile basalt
SC feels like it doesnt trigger enough but its great damage so yea
On zealot with +stagger talent it shouldn’t be a problem
vestal pine
thrust is bait
sterile basalt
At worst u spec 1 extra point into +50% stagger on melee weakspot hit
sterile basalt
Thrust is bait for shock maul
wooden river
because reddit
vestal pine
At worst u spec 1 extra point into +50% stagger on melee weakspot hit
i didnt take that it seems faulty
thrust and the rending one is bait imho
does thrust actually make some cleave with heavys
cause thays like the only reason i'd consider using one
vestal pine
God I hate using Psword
dont worry sunder
ripe quest
thrust is bait
placid fiber
https://tenor.com/view/what-the-dog-doin-dobby-rather-mundane-when-i-see-the-dog...
Am I bait? :3
ripe quest
Am I bait? :3
You're a couple things.
placid fiber
Which are? :3
placid fiber
You're a couple things.
Is one bait? >:3
ripe quest
Is one bait? >:3
sterile basalt
does thrust actually make some cleave with heavys
If thrust doesn’t make 1 hit breakpoints, I don’t think it’s ever worth considering
gloomy moth
the heavy charge turning into a light on fotf happened to me using hammer. not every time, but enough times to be annoying 💢 something wonky
frosty herald
the pickaxe movesets are very fun ngl
i like the one with the wooden handle the most
i also figured out quickly that enemies can only be pulled once with them falling over
median steeple
I loading into a game just for it to spawn me into the fire of 2 flamers and a crusher
gray terrace
oh
placid fiber
I loading into a game just for it to spawn me into the fire of 2 flamers and a c...
oof
slate notch
Did I get a shit maul?
frosty herald
why is there thrust on the new maul
radiant nacelle
Why not
onyx sun
whats the best melee perks? asking since i came back to the game and made a new zealot class
sturdy knoll
YOOOO BOLT PISTOL HAS RUN N GUN
ember yew
Did I get a shit maul?
Probably, should be Skullcrusher in one slot
slate notch
What about Falter? Worth?