is this good?
#zealot-class
surreal shore
north sedge
Why
grizzled aspen
That's a really good sword to begin with. Wrath definitely isn't the pick, but neither is bloodthirsty.
north sedge
Bloodthirsty is stinky dogshit on mk2
grizzled aspen
^
Personally, I have momentum on my eviscerator, but people would probably call me crazy for liking it.
(or whatever the blessing is for toughness on hitting multiple targets)
north sedge
Agree that's a bit overkill, savage sweep is nice on mk2
grizzled aspen
I use the mk15 one on a martyr build, it keeps me from having my toughness broken and eating my get out of jail card that is holy revenant.
grizzled aspen
Why can't you replace it?
haughty haven
Wait
Does it consider the ticks from the special attack to be hits?
For momentum or whatever tf it is
grizzled aspen
No.
haughty haven
That would be legendary lol
grizzled aspen
Only the initial impact is considered a hit.
haughty haven
Immortal boss killer
grizzled aspen
That's why fotf with a chainsword is great, as every tick should be a crit.
surreal shore
Why can't you replace it?
but cant..cuz its locked XD
grizzled aspen
Not sure I understand. Have you already modified the weapon at all?
haughty haven
I've got a mk15 evis with everything over 77
surreal shore
yeah i ahve
haughty haven
It ended up with rampage and wrath
haughty haven
Should mk15 be carapace and unyielding?
maiden path
fleet zealot
dense field
why are your rats so loooong
strange totem
Are zealots fuled by racism or faith?
dense field
yes
stable cypress
yes
maiden path
Are zealots fuled by racism or faith?
sexo
buoyant pecan
Noodles
dense field
cute
fleet zealot
Are zealots fuled by racism or faith?
faith in racism
languid rock
ive been converted to a heavy sword believer
this thing kinda slaps
the special seems like it has armor shred? hard to tell in mission im gonna meat grind it rq
maiden path
hello chat
omg
wait
is that a full moon
🌕
awooooooooooo
i cant contain it
awooooooooooooooo
spare dome
m-mods
maiden path
AWOOOOOOOOO
languid rock
oh no hes a saiyan!!
spare dome
MODS
languid rock
hes turning into a giant monkey!!
haughty haven
Tf
maiden path
wolf voice: hello chat
languid rock
Tf
tf you mean tf
i pair this with a nutcracker bolter and im set
absolutely mulches mixed hordes it does good maniac damage without any help
haughty haven
I guess I just haven't seen that it has headtaker
Think I got rampage and the hit mass one on mine
obtuse stirrup
the special seems like it has armor shred? hard to tell in mission im gonna meat...
It has good armour piercing but doesn't apply brittleness or rending
languid rock
thats really weird based on what i felt but im about to confirm it, i might have just been feeling headtaker stacks or something
obtuse stirrup
Think I got rampage and the hit mass one on mine
Headtaker is #1 most important, second can be deathblow (preferred) or Rampage (better anti-elite, worse anti-trash)
languid rock
rampage is almost as good as headtaker but not quite
haughty haven
Ohh ok so I'm not doing too bad
fleet zealot
the special seems like it has armor shred? hard to tell in mission im gonna meat...
special is the best anti armor hit it has, 2nd is the heavies,so you just loop both
obtuse stirrup
Headtaker Deathblow is ideal
languid rock
yeah i do special heavy
haughty haven
Well I know it's less damage than power per percent
obtuse stirrup
special is the best anti armor hit it has, 2nd is the heavies,so you just loop b...
Tbh I started just special spamming
obtuse stirrup
Well I know it's less damage than power per percent
Headtaker stacks 5 times though
fleet zealot
Headtaker is #1 most important, second can be deathblow (preferred) or Rampage (...
other way around, rampage is better if you are brainlessly light spamming, deathblwo lets you kill 4 elites in one swing
obtuse stirrup
And isn't dependent on being in multitarget
haughty haven
Power is ultimately better is what I'm saying
languid rock
headtaker's advantage over deathblow is 40% cleave 40% impact and 4% damage, and it trades instant stacking for being able to stack on solos
haughty haven
Even if rampage did do 40 percent
languid rock
i think it also instant stacks if you cleave 5 enemies though
obtuse stirrup
other way around, rampage is better if you are brainlessly light spamming, death...
I mindlessly heavy spam instead lmao
languid rock
power is good
obtuse stirrup
Oneshots all trash for me already
haughty haven
Hmm
fleet zealot
rampage is power, but the thing is deathblow helps so fucking much with lowtier elites
languid rock
l1 h2 is the horde clear combo i think
haughty haven
I thought anyway
fleet zealot
headtaker lets you stack on single target/duo target if needed and in general is very easy to maintain
obtuse stirrup
Well sometimes I alternate L1H2 or whatever it is
languid rock
rampage is damage
fleet zealot
Ranpage is damage
tooltip been wrong for a while now
fleet zealot
RAMPAGE IS POWER, THE TOOLTIP IS LYING
obtuse stirrup
But I take the heavy attack kills gives toughness talent
So I often just heavy anyway
languid rock
rampage is power???
fleet zealot
YES
haughty haven
Oi wtf
obtuse stirrup
Rampage is power
languid rock
game changer (not really)
obtuse stirrup
It lies
molten lily
Thanks everyone for the suggestions, emperor protects!
languid rock
but substantial improvement on an already good blessing
haughty haven
Thanks everyone for the suggestions, emperor protects!
No he doesn't, you do
fleet zealot
you still go HT+DB because getting first target damage 4 times in a row is giga busted
fleet zealot
HT helps in all situations, even single/duo targets, rampage is 3rd best
languid rock
rampage needing 3 targets is a problem yeah, you have to actively restack it while fighting crushers or whatever because you're not doing your cleaves generally
crisp furnace
deathblow is mandatory i think
It is
languid rock
deathblow makes hordes paper thin
haughty haven
What was cleaves relationship to flak
Is the mk9 the bis for heavy or is that all preference
Ie not as clear a choice of DS4 being pretty much the way
languid rock
i think heavier armor has more hitmass? cleave is one of those fuckin fatshark systems
uh i think 9 is BIS for patterns? i just happened to roll up a sweet one basically by accident
obtuse stirrup
Is the mk9 the bis for heavy or is that all preference
The 7 is also good iirc
Strikedown H1 except it is diagonal
So it's easy to oneshot multiragers with it, I hear
crisp furnace
i think heavier armor has more hitmass? cleave is one of those fuckin fatshark s...
Yes
obtuse stirrup
9 is the classic
languid rock
ok yeah special attack doesnt do any damage mod confirmed i was having testing bias in the mission
haughty haven
Oh so the 7 more brain dead if it follows other weapon patterns
languid rock
funky breakpoints on the drug synthesizers lol
haughty haven
Ie illisi, eviscerated 15 etc
crisp furnace
https://tenor.com/view/frog-dying-feliyfelix-dying-frog-gif-24020497
Remember guys the sword sucks!!!!!!!!
fleet zealot
the heavyswords are a family with no clear bis
obtuse stirrup
Oh so the 7 more brain dead if it follows other weapon patterns
All heavy swords are kinda brain dead lmao
fleet zealot
all the heavy swords cap out and start at the same levels so it's up to personal preference
languid rock
mk 7 doesnt have the heavy true cleave available is the tradeoff
languid rock
but i can see you mulching bunched elites really good with this thing
obtuse stirrup
mk 7 doesnt have the heavy true cleave available is the tradeoff
Deathblow is more vital for it I heard
It's highly recommended for the 9, essential for the 7
languid rock
they have the same cleave distro stat afaik but the mk 9 is way better at hitting a ton of heads
it has fully lateral cleaving heavies
7s are like 30 degrees off lateral
obtuse stirrup
How does deathblow work again
languid rock
and then like 80 but thats really just a strikedown
languid rock
if you kill them with a headshot they dont subtract from your cleave-ometer
is how i understand it
obtuse stirrup
So it has to go through multiple heads
languid rock
you have a cleave damage curve and if you get a weakpoint kill you dont progress along it
languid rock
yeah it only gets the benefit on headshots
which the 9 is substantially better at imo?
the 7's h1 is just a cleave with bigger damage though so it can wipe ragers and stuff easier
like the mk 9 cleaving heavies, h2 and h3 do 204 damage to maniacs on my 9, but on this random much worse 7 i have it does over 400
obtuse stirrup
The 7's H1 is coded as a strikedown attack but it's the closest one to horizontal in the game iirc
On a weapon with bromentum (in all but name)
languid rock
oh wait im looking at regular damage not even weakpoint let me get the tables
it is indeed really close to horizontal
20-30 degrees off it it seems good
fleet zealot
which the 9 is substantially better at imo?
all of them can do it
languid rock
7 (no armor type bonus) vs 9 (flak 3 unyielding 4)
it hits pretty hard in return for the minor difference in angle
fleet zealot
tbf, those graphs aren't always accurate iirc
languid rock
no they're purely base numbers
but 2x is 2x
it SWANGS but the angle is worse and the swing is narrower
obtuse stirrup
And oneshots are very valuable for deathblomentum
left iron
9 has weaker H2 and H3, the H1 is the only one it shares with the others
languid rock
the mk9 has a hueg swing though and still kills bruisers and stalkers in one go though, so its wild at hordes
left iron
9 has better light attack profiles than the others, though
languid rock
7 trades that incredible horde clear for incredible pack clear
the 9 lights are also sick
i've been doing a build that charges in with a light attack to get everyone bleeding
a couple more lights then its murder town
obtuse stirrup
Idk when to use the 9's lights though
I mostly use them on enemies that tend to run away
Trappers, dogs, bombers
languid rock
swamped with poxers mostly, besides using them for combo timings
i think im gonna hit Krall, i wanna be a bit shorter and try out a new voice
lethal patio
What’s a good chain sword for a fury crit build?
languid rock
im trying to remember the deep lore about this, chain weapons dont trigger the critical damage CDR as often as other weapons can they're capped iirc, but its still pretty good, and they do HUGE damage when you crit and attack 20% faster
the mk2 is strictly better but harder to use IMO
15 might have some armor type advantages not sure
fleet zealot
What’s a good chain sword for a fury crit build?
mk4
languid rock
oh wait regular chainsword... i forget about those
obtuse stirrup
the mk2 is strictly better but harder to use IMO
15 does better on single target
languid rock
similar situation i think
languid rock
2 can do all the stuff its just harder to line up
i think lol
its a high skill cap weapon for sure
lethal patio
im trying to remember the deep lore about this, chain weapons dont trigger the c...
If that’s the case what would be a better weapon for crit?
obtuse stirrup
2 feels like high skill for not much return
15 feels better in general for me tbh
obtuse stirrup
If that’s the case what would be a better weapon for crit?
If you want the little chainswords, either really, both are good
Other good crit weapons include heavy swords, crusher, combat blades, tac axes
Do not use a combat axe or a thunderhammer in a crit build for the most part
Idk about the others really
lethal patio
Oh ok nice thanks ima try them out once I get on
fleet zealot
heavy sword isn't a good crit weapon
it's like crusher where crit is jsut super overtuned so it "just works"
obtuse stirrup
Yeah, it's more that it's a weapon that can farm invocation of death from crits easily
And it doesn't really need anything else
Maybe I should swap to invocation/martyrdom and drop piety
ripe quest
im trying to remember the deep lore about this, chain weapons dont trigger the c...
This is heavily inaccurate. An attack in a combo can be target capped, as in it's 0 damage past x enemies, but if you can hit the enemy you still get crit CDR. Chainsword doesn't have target capped attacks except for the PA, Mk II Evis' H1 is uncapped and the rest of the attacks are capped on both the II and XV. Mainly Chainsword is a finesse weapon, but doesn't surpass weapons like Hsword for that. Evis and Chaxe have worse finesse values last I checked as well, with Mk XV Evis being a special case in that its crits can hit good breakpoints.
maiden path
destiny 2 ticcu devination best pve weapon ever made
ripe quest
If you want to run crit CDR w/ a chain weapon, Chainsword (either) or Mk II Evis are the goto. Mk IV Chainsword w/ SS + Shred, Mk XIIIg Chainsword with Wrath + Shred, Mk II Evis with SS (Perfect Strike is ok) + Shred. Perks are just damage perks. Don't run Shroudfield due to the bug regarding revs and shroudfield, you get little value.
Mk XV Evis can be fine as well for it, SS + Shred is going to net you a lot of crit CDR. Some people enjoy running PS instead of SS for the XV but you don't really get numerical advantages that matter in gameplay (that's a whole 'nother discussion though) and it feels bad having an inconsistent proc on the lights.
ripe quest
destiny 2 ticcu devination best pve weapon ever made
Telesto
ripe quest
i literally @'d u./..
I have you blocked so I didn't ever get the notification.
maiden path
I have you blocked so I didn't ever get the notification.
wow.........
maiden path
suffering from being too fucking real
(me not u)
some of yall like kobe while im larry bird
on some real shit
ripe quest
suffering from being too fucking real
I just need a 2FA to view your messages because some of them give me aneurisms and I'd get banned for rule 1 and 3 violations.
maiden path
I just need a 2FA to view your messages because some of them give me aneurisms a...
ur da mental patient and im the asylum director
u guys gonna be sleeping in bed and shoot up in a cold sweat and go 'he so fucking real'
and he is me
and me is he
fleet zealot
and me is he
i do not like u sam i am
ripe quest
ur da mental patient and im the asylum director
maiden path
i do not like u sam i am
i do not like green eggs and ham fuck u
maiden path
clever zealot
hows this look
fleet zealot
hows this look
shit
no uncanny strike, mercy killer off veteran (who has serrated blade talent and can use it consistently)
crit chance perk just meh in compared to 25% to an important armor type to help you hit BPs
spare dome
with that
hushed knoll
spare dome
crit dodge blessing instead, stick to bleed talent for bleed
and its totes servicable
imo anyway
fleet zealot
alright so what should I go for instead
bis is uncanny strike+ riposte or precog, executor works on mk6. perks elite, flak, maniac etc
yea you can make it work
get riposte instead of flesh tearer
left iron
Uncanny isnt needed if you lean heavily into crits, just go riposte/precog if you go that route. Joshos explanation about the ADMs on crit yesterday
hushed knoll
Uncanny isnt needed if you lean heavily into crits, just go riposte/precog if yo...
PLUH
left iron
Bleed is ass as a damage source, the real benefit is the stuff bleed enables, like scourge for zealot, DR for ogryn etc
fleet zealot
if you want bleed maxxing despite it's less burst
go uncanny+flesh tearer
end of story
clever zealot
Bleed is ass as a damage source, the real benefit is the stuff bleed enables, li...
wait what does scourge do?
left iron
Crit chance
clever zealot
oh right
clever zealot
go uncanny+flesh tearer
is uncanny necessary with all the crit chance buffs from zealot perks?
left iron
maiden path
left iron
I will release forbidden knowledge upon the poor souls dwelling in this chat
south folio
thank u Stan for ur graciousness
fleet zealot
is uncanny necessary with all the crit chance buffs from zealot perks?
IF YOU ARE GOING BLEED YES
fleet zealot
if you are hard forcing bleed go uncanny
south folio
my god
nimble fiber
F
hushed knoll
WADIYA TALKIN ABEET
left iron
You may fill out the parts left out yourself
hushed knoll
NOOOO
left iron
I regret reading the majority of stuff that has happened in the servers i am in
During this weekend
nimble fiber
<:acid_do_mathematics:684519255798185991>
hushed knoll
No what 
south folio
he HATES reading
hushed knoll
NO
fleet zealot
cause it's a big sword
obsidian prairie
It would be broken as all hell if it had old Exe sword cleave
Or at least very strong
surreal shore
Mk2 is actually a cleave machine
Seriously like I think the omly thing that can beat it is heavy sword
Or ogryn mk6 cleaver
obsidian prairie
Counterpoint, most power weapons
fleet zealot
maiden path
where my destiny 2 palyers at
radiant nacelle
Where can I go to learn all about knife zealot?
surreal shore
Where can I go to learn all about knife zealot?
Spam heavies then slide to
Keep your speed going
Thats it
Push attack spam single targets
radiant nacelle
Which mark? Which blessings? Which perks? Which talents?
Is there not a knife guide out there?
radiant nacelle
Oh, I couldn't find it
surreal shore
I mean pins sorry
radiant nacelle
I couldn't find it in pins
surreal shore
There you can find what blessings to run
Well look at builds parts not just knife only
radiant nacelle
I found evis and crusher
surreal shore
But anyway
radiant nacelle
Build parts from what guide?
jaunty lava
There's a page for all zealot weapon
radiant nacelle
That's not really a knife guide lol
modern lintel
Are you asking what you want on the knife or what tree to use
jaunty lava
And for talents you either go for a generic crit build, or pick up some dodge talents and use shroudfield with either momentum or piety
radiant nacelle
All of it. I want to fully investigate how to do all things knife zealot.
Not like, tell me the blessings to use
radiant nacelle
Where can I go to learn all about knife zealot?
^
vestal pine
you run around and stab things
jaunty lava
The blessings will change a bit depending on the build, but iirc uncanny is a good first option, with fleshtearer or any of the dodge blessing as 2nd. i personnally like mercy killer with crit builds but idk if that's a meme or not
vestal pine
its good at stabbig high health targets(elites/specials)
modern lintel
@radiant nacelle
radiant nacelle
Mark 6 over 3? Why? I guess I assumed 3 was better
modern lintel
Its sort of preference
jaunty lava
mk6 has the stab while mk3 is sweeping heavies
left iron
Why mercy killer instead of precog? Precog is active even on targets without bleed, is activated by doing the thing you do with knife dodging most of the time in melee and also affects crit damage
radiant nacelle
Does knife want to sweep? That seems not good.
ripe quest
mk6 has the stab while mk3 is sweeping heavies
Other way around.
jaunty lava
oops that's true
modern lintel
Does knife want to sweep? That seems not good.
It gives the ability to spread crit dmg over multiple enemies
radiant nacelle
Is that for cycling F?
jaunty lava
Personnaly i would rather have another sweep weapon on zealot but mk6 still works well
hushed knoll
Other way around.
How is your science going
hushed knoll
Why mercy killer instead of precog? Precog is active even on targets without ble...
PLUH
delicate shadow
the real answer is to just run crusher
radiant nacelle
Yeah I'm going to give crusher a shot later
I just want to explore knife and see how it feels first
ripe quest
How is your science going
hushed knoll
@left iron https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TLbk7f3OOc
hushed knoll
radiant nacelle
I would just hate to get into learning KNife and realize I'm learning it wrong by not having all the data so trying to make sure I have the full picture from the experts first.
modern lintel
Me personally like knife a lot more on vet then zealot
radiant nacelle
I'm guessing Mk3 for high damage stabs is the best, but if someone has input on why sweeping heavies are cool I'm happy to listen. This is what I cooked up so far. I can change crit chance to Flak damage, and Executor to...? Precog, Uncanny, Mercy?
radiant nacelle
Me personally like knife a lot more on vet then zealot
I could see that, but yeah I don't play much Vet.
Almost entierly zealot main. I pull the vet out when I need to. Can make them a knife if I like it on zealot.
modern lintel
I'm guessing Mk3 for high damage stabs is the best, but if someone has input on ...
Any of those would work yea
radiant nacelle
I'm guessing rending is better for crusher hunting. Is that Knife's best destiny? What role does knife even fill? I'm assuming speedy maintenance of problem spots on the battlefield
While not really helping with hordes much
modern lintel
I mean it can kind of do everything
radiant nacelle
I mean, that can be said of lots of weapons
So what is knife's particular brand of doing everything?
modern lintel
Good and single target rlly good mobility
radiant nacelle
Okay, so elite murder. Any thoughts on backstabs versus weak spots? Which should I care about? I feel like that influences the blessings I choose
radiant nacelle
Okay, that makes sense.
modern lintel
I mean you can build around backstab but its sort of gimmicky
languid rock
the weak point perk on weapons is terrible awful and no good btw avoid it
the bonus is applied in i think the least favorable way it possibly could be
radiant nacelle
I don't plan to go lacerate if that's what you mean
Are you suggesting precog is better?
languid rock
i mean the perks not the blessings
radiant nacelle
Oh, okay, yeah I don't plan to aim for weak spot perk
radiant nacelle
Just reading the descriptions, uncanny seems like it should be worse than precog and mercy killer both. What am I missing?
languid rock
and then uh... im not sure what perks to prioritize
so do you know how rending works
radiant nacelle
Haven't reread it in a long time, but what I recall is that rending is a reduction of enemy armour, which overall increases your damage.
Oh wait, rending is a buff on yourself, right? I'm thinking brittleness
languid rock
its a multiplier to damage vs anything that's not unarmored or infested
100% rending doubles your damage output vs most enemies iirc
radiant nacelle
Is Flesh Tearer good? Should I junk that?
languid rock
flesh tearer is BIS
radiant nacelle
huh, wow, okay.
languid rock
making people bleed is good and you'll probably be critting a lot
my also unfinished zealot knife
languid rock
executor is comparable to flesh tearer i think
for different use cases obv
theres not a weapon that has uncanny strike available where i dont run it
left iron
100% rending doubles your damage output vs most enemies iirc
This is wildly wrong. Rending is a buff on yourself that increases your weapons ADM until you hit 100%, then it gives you benefits at a rate of 1/4
ADM being armor damage modifier
languid rock
so do you do your unarmored damage instead
left iron
If your weapons unarmored ADM is 1.0, yes
royal vortex
so do you do your unarmored damage instead
not an accurate way of describing it either, unarmored is a separate adm that can be higher or lower
crusher, for instance, has an unarmored adm of 1.25
languid rock
ok so its meaningfully what i said except in 6 paragraphs instead of a sentence
radiant nacelle
...so uncanny is still among best knife blessings? lol
languid rock
idk no one jumping out is providing any info on how it typically affects a hit on an armored foe
just random lines about the internal math
royal vortex
because the math is how it works
languid rock
yeah but you're providing half a line in a complicated equation and going "hmmph so there."
royal vortex
"armored" is not a category, it applies differently to each armor type and the amount of value you get on that adm is per-weapon
royal vortex
yeah but you're providing half a line in a complicated equation and going "hmmph...
there's i guess two things you can clarify
left iron
...so uncanny is still among best knife blessings? lol
If you play into crits, uncanny isnt as impactful. Im stealing Joshos thoughts on this from yesterday
royal vortex
100% in this context means 100% adm - so the full effect applies until you get 100% of the base damage of that weapon's attack
languid rock
"it doesnt double your damage it does (other thing that cannot be meaningfully interpreted)"
royal vortex
it is then applied as a damage boost at 1/4 the normal rate, up to a cap of 100% rending
royal vortex
"it doesnt double your damage it does (other thing that cannot be meaningfully i...
because saying it doubles your damage is only true if you have a weapon with a baseline 0.5 adm and is wildly inaccurate
the only thing i can meaningfully interpret from your statement is you don't know how it works
radiant nacelle
I've always found it easier to think of it as there is no armour in Darktide, just armour types. Flak could be called goosefeathers, carapace could be called sticksandstones, it doesn't matter. "armoured" is not a state people can be in. It's just what that body part is called, and every weapon has modifiers to different things.
royal vortex
which is fine, fatshark game mechanics are opaque and really fucking annoying to interpret
if we interpret "armored" as "carapace and flak enemies", for the combat blade you are entirely incorrect
the baseline cara adm before crit mods for flak on the heavies is 0.9, and for carapace 0.6
languid rock
is there a table of the ADMs somewhere
left iron
I do concede i worded it not-so-great, it is 4 am and im playing Elden Ring 
radiant nacelle
I think there's a table of enemy unit breeds
royal vortex
i have one a friend made for psyker weapons (and the shared generics) but he's not done and it's attached to a personal email so i can't currently share it
languid rock
this is also not how i've ever heard it described before, i dont think i've ever even heard of ADMs
vestal pine
the baseline cara adm before crit mods for flak on the heavies is 0.9, and for c...
it has 0.6 on 60% pen? jeez
languid rock
so 100% rending on ck6 heavies does the listed damage plus 90%/4 vs flak's .9ADM
royal vortex
it has 0.6 on 60% pen? jeez
oh yeah penetration probably modifies it down a bit, but even then the range isn't going to line up with "doubles"
if i remember right from the pen stat you get 0.81 at 80% but idk i'd have to look at the numbers
vestal pine
guess that means i can actually throw away uncanny and be fine
royal vortex
this is also not how i've ever heard it described before, i dont think i've ever...
ADMs is the more "specific" term for when people discuss a weapon's performance into certain armor types
vestal pine
royal vortex
you've probably had discussions about them, it was just like "the headhunter has bad maniac damage"
languid rock
is the ADM equal to the actual damage divided by the listed damage on the item card
vestal pine
ADMs is the more "specific" term for when people discuss a weapon's performance ...
fatshark not listing all ADM on a penetration stats(maniac/unyielding my beloved)
royal vortex
but it should list the base damage of the first attack in each sequence
fatshark can also just lie. so be warned
languid rock
does every attack get its own ADM
royal vortex
each unique attack
languid rock
thats heinous
royal vortex
some have the same attack profile - generally this means they have like the same animation from the opposite end of the screen
for the tactical axes, though, every heavy attack is the same profile
this is really bizarre because the overheads and the sweep heavies are dealing the same damage
languid rock
fatshark list important stats challenge
vestal pine
fatshark can also just lie. so be warned
when did they do that
languid rock
all the time
royal vortex
p often
spare talon
Fatshark never lies
vestal pine
i assume they did it but like
languid rock
the tooltip for first target is still wrong
vestal pine
i dont remember the occasion where it was bog obvious
languid rock
applies when you're not hitting multiple targets
vestal pine
I can't believe you'd accuse them of lying
you accused them of talking
languid rock
the fucked up thing is i would have interpreted how the first target stat worked right the first time if it didnt have a tooltip lmao
royal vortex
the finesse stat still doesn't have the implied 1 at the start of the modifier
it's like 0.80 at 80% on most weapons
when it should say 1.80
north sedge
Vicious Slice was the best thing that ever happened
vestal pine
fatshark would divide wp damage and actual damage since thats how it works internally(+10% wp damage)
spare talon
it's like 0.80 at 80% on most weapons
Which means it's basically +0.80x extra damage
royal vortex
it's a purely cosmetic thing
hushed knoll
the finesse stat still doesn't have the implied 1 at the start of the modifier
JOSHO HI 
fleet zealot
Okay, so elite murder. Any thoughts on backstabs versus weak spots? Which shou...
just do both
hushed knoll
I AM VERY HYPER
fleet zealot
back of the head is weakspot and backstab
vestal pine
getting good rashad on vet is hard
hushed knoll
Everyone greet Josho
royal vortex
crab explained it to me once - it functions the way you think it should and the tooltip just makes it look bad
left iron
vestal pine
file ill grate him on a cheese grater
languid rock
he been here!
hushed knoll
hushed knoll
<a:cat_stare:964151226423984138>
PLUH
languid rock
i love when finesse randomly does other stuff
fleet zealot
Why is nobody greeting him wtf
we grating out here like olive garden
hushed knoll
file ill grate him on a cheese grater
hushed knoll
we grating out here like olive garden
Olive Garden fuuuuuucks 🫦
vestal pine
stop fucking olives
languid rock
you can dump finesse on bully club 3bs because you lose like 1% of attack speed and the stat does nothing else
fleet zealot
Olive Garden fuuuuuucks 🫦
hushed knoll
https://tenor.com/view/otter-cute-what-stare-animal-gif-17430025
Is this an otter
royal vortex
there's the surface level of finesse being 3 different things from information presented to the player
hushed knoll
stop fucking olives
Olives are not fuckable
languid rock
stop fucking olives
the pitting process leaves an opportunity for the poorly endowed
vestal pine
you can dump finesse on bully club 3bs because you lose like 1% of attack speed ...
rashad finesse 68% is pain
royal vortex
and then it's also even worse if you look at the code
fatshark hates having identifiable variable names
fleet zealot
Is this an otter
spare talon
Is this an otter
I think that's a dog
hushed knoll
FUCK
vestal pine
and then it's also even worse if you look at the code
i wonder if its worse than pd2
languid rock
yeah rashad having finesse dumped is what's ruined every one i've ever bought
hushed knoll
I got shaving cream in my ears
fleet zealot
fatshark hates having identifiable variable names
warp charge code is always gonna live rent free in my brain
languid rock
i give fatshark a little naming credit because they're not anglospheric
hushed knoll
I used to think FS was French Canadian
languid rock
but like... come on guys hire an american to write your english stuff
fleet zealot
launch psyker, your peril is actually warp charge in the code, and warp charges were called souls
languid rock
I used to think FS was French Canadian
i would be boycotting the series
hushed knoll
Why
vestal pine
launch psyker, your peril is actually warp charge in the code, and warp charges ...
did they change thay
at least souls makes... broad sense.
languid rock
quebec
fleet zealot
did they change thay
no idea, i let others look at the code so i don't get driven mad
vestal pine
(terrible at it)
fleet zealot
olive garden kinda sucks to mid overall but i'd kill for the chicken soup
royal vortex
what do you guys think the variable finesse_boost does
nobody answered and thus you have been spared the cognitohazard
just kidding its a weakspot damage boost
languid rock
i assume people pull this game apart in IDA or something idk much about game RE
fleet zealot
idk what they do to it but the cream gnochi and chicken is SO Fucking good
vestal pine
no idea, i let others look at the code so i don't get driven mad
last time i did that was on pd2 decomp and uh
they aint coding much better
royal vortex
despite "finesse" being the cumulative term for crit and weakspot
north sedge
Only thing i can say is that the salad is good
The pasta dishes are always bland as fuck
left iron
I already knew the answer, i didnt want to spoil the fun for the others
vestal pine
just kidding its a weakspot damage boost
so they have separate crit/wp modifiers?
fleet zealot
when they have the lunch special i'll just go in, eat one plate of salad, and at minimum, 5 bowls of soup and some breadsticks
spare talon
Infinite breadsticks at the cost of ordering 1 small water
fleet zealot
The pasta dishes are always bland as fuck
cause they don't salt the water
royal vortex
there's completely unused crit modifiers for the knife in the code because the variable is named the wrong thing
north sedge
cause they don't salt the water
Or the food
royal vortex
so they have separate crit/wp modifiers?
sort of
vestal pine
there's completely unused crit modifiers for the knife in the code because the v...
sounds fun
royal vortex
i don't think it comes up in gameplay very much ever outside of crit adm boosting
languid rock
ive never been to an olive garden it's never made geographic sense
vestal pine
i assume noone actually found what they were doing
fleet zealot
it saves them like 10c on both not using salt and not having to worry about pots wearing down too fast
languid rock
i would like to eat an infinite amount of breadsticks
royal vortex
for some reason the game has crit adm boosts and not workspot
vestal pine
i don't think it comes up in gameplay very much ever outside of crit adm boostin...
i mean wp alone gets modified but i dont think ive seen only crit modifier getting modified
royal vortex
very sad stuff
hushed knoll
https://tenor.com/view/confused-no-nope-gif-13134027
It does!
fleet zealot
i would like to eat an infinite amount of breadsticks
imo i'd just go for lunch
get a lunch sized dish or just do the Soup+Salad unlimited lunch which is like... 9$ where i live
languid rock
"piece of code is inert because a variable is named wrong" is an all time coding classic
royal vortex
the variable being named wrong isn't the worst part of why the crit boost doesn't work
vestal pine
for some reason the game has crit adm boosts and not workspot
is this supposed to be wack rending
languid rock
and they dont have GCC or whatever to compile away the dead code to hide it
royal vortex
the variable name is the correct one for a crit boost but there's a separate variable name for a crit boost inside or outside of the target list
and they use the wrong one
royal vortex
is this supposed to be wack rending
it's basically better rending if you can get it over 1.0
like knife crit heavies having 1.15 flak adm and 1.75 unyielding
but it's entirely weapon dependent and in most cases is just for carapace
vestal pine
thats why crit knife works without uncanny. hm
i mean sounds reasonable
fatshark just puts 2 types: carapace and non-carapace
royal vortex
the problem with it is when you have automatic weapons with crit strings of 4+ and a moderate amount of crit chance
probably shouldnt be so easy to shoot crushers with a columnus
vestal pine
gunpsyker brrrt
languid rock
i still dont know how bonuses to cleave work, and why savage sweep is rarely as good as it sounds
it might be a combination of cleave caps and weapons already cleaving almost as many enemies as they can hit?
royal vortex
it just changes the amount of targets you can hit. once you start hitting absurd numbers like 20+ cleave it only really matters for staggering elites in most cases
vestal pine
savage sweep needs to hit 3 targets to activate and something like vase dclaw light doesn't cleave 3 bruisers
royal vortex
since the minimum cleave damage on weapons is normally hit by targets 4-5
royal vortex
there was one blessing that did
but it was bugged and gave +impact while saying it was damage on successive cleaved enemies
they just changed the tooltip to impact
vicious slice was murdered
vestal pine
so thats why it was there
i wondered why vicious slice was fucking bad
when trauma exists
or hammerblow
🤡
languid rock
i wish weapons listed cleave stats
royal vortex
any +damage boost applies to every cleaved target it's just like, an extra 40% on 30 min cleave damage is kinda struggling
languid rock
i might have to use the damn breakpoint calculator to check
royal vortex
yeah that's one of those things you'd think would be in the game but isn't
same with weapon falloff (unless your gun has a range stat)
vestal pine
any +damage boost applies to every cleaved target it's just like, an extra 40% o...
i mean it does help a bit i tuess
languid rock
like is a chainsword with rampage cleaving good already? does it need more help? im probably not going to buy cs rampage 4 off melk because its 3k and new weapons are dropping
but its something youd think would be answerable
i dont think theres even a mod
royal vortex
like is a chainsword with rampage cleaving good already? does it need more help?...
chainsword's a funny example
languid rock
chainsword is the one i feel like might get mileage
royal vortex
so like, every weapon in the game has its finesse modifier decrease as you go down the cleave targets list
except the chainsword
languid rock
huh
vestal pine
except the chainsword
praise the beneficent emperah
languid rock
so more linear drop on a big head sweep
languid rock
thats real interesting
royal vortex
i don't really play it cuz i cannot stand any chain weapons but @south folio was having the problem where he was killing stuff to maintain scourge on a crit chainsword build
vestal pine
perfect strike is quite funny
languid rock
i cant think of who i'd be playing chainswords on but do people mostly run like shred wrath crit cs? new or old mark?
vestal pine
i don't really play it cuz i cannot stand any chain weapons but <@29718278134615...
its fun to swing cs4
i dont like new mark
royal vortex
you can do savage sweep + shred or rampage on mk4, mk13g you have to go wrath over savage
royal vortex
either one works it's just a bit of a difference in whether or not you want to use heavies (mk4) or light spam (mk13) for horde clear
languid rock
that crit property makes it sound like shreds mandatory
i should run it on gunker lol
north sedge
i miss beta chainsword where it was just a really shitty club unless you revved it
vestal pine
mk4 light has decent horde clear if you're zealot from my experience
languid rock
gaze and go crazy with the chainsword
royal vortex
i think you have to take blazing piety to make it worth more than rampage
vestal pine
i miss beta chainsword where it was just a really shitty club unless you revved ...
so where does that put current chaxe
north sedge
chainsword has the fastest horde clear in the game
royal vortex
talentless w/ just blessings iirc rampage still outperforms it but it's been a while since i've looked at any breakdowns
languid rock
that's proabably true gaze isnt up often enough
vestal pine
beta chainsword didnt
so it was actual pool noodle
languid rock
chax is for whack a mole
vestal pine
instead of a kinda wierd hammer we have as a chaxe
north sedge
beta chainsword you had to hit a dude like 8 times, like trash enemies
vestal pine
well chaxe doesnt have shred p sure
fleet zealot
would you run thrust or nah
mk12 yes, mk4 no
languid rock
chaxe doesnt have shred? lmao i havent used one since before skills patch
vestal pine
mk12 yes, mk4 no
guy i know in korean(that is an outcast) wierdly recommends the opposite
fun
languid rock
mandela affect
fleet zealot
mk4 functions much better as statchecker ala crusher
fleet zealot
guy i know in korean(that is an outcast) wierdly recommends the opposite
fun
i've said this before but some of them players need to stick to league
vestal pine
koreans are pointing guns at eachother to see who's d*** is larger
vestal pine
i've said this before but some of them players need to stick to league
well hes not in the community which is where my reaction
well he is in
but hes still an outcast
languid rock
well chaxe doesnt have shred p sure
oh you thought i meant the blessing no i meant the activated shred damage from the shredder stat
vestal pine
has different opinions than majority
languid rock
i can only assume thrust doesnt boost it
fleet zealot
mk4 can hit stagger/power BPs that mk12 can't for cleaving, as well as having a better push attack imo
fleet zealot
i can only assume thrust doesnt boost it
it does
vestal pine
oh you thought i meant the blessing no i meant the activated shred damage from t...
ah kek
they mk4 light/mk12 heavy gets affected by shred, and from what i know it does get affected by thrust since i can oneshot muties with thrust mk12
languid rock
thats funny as hell
vestal pine
mk4 can hit stagger/power BPs that mk12 can't for cleaving, as well as having a ...
i like stabby PAs it does butload of damage
fleet zealot
mk12 can get consistent crusher BPs off it since it's a straight vertical swing
stabby PA does a buttload of damage but like
languid rock
full thrust charge, then hit and do the crit tech, cut monstro in half
fleet zealot
you already have heavies for it, generally, i value push attacks that do good in following up the space creation you want while doing a push
vestal pine
i've said this before but some of them players need to stick to league
majority of players either choose headtaker/thrust or slaughterer/thrust and hes there recommending headtaker/slaughterer
fleet zealot
or something like knife where it is a massive dps investment
ht slaugt combo is just infinitely better on mk4
get punishment and you can bully mauler packs with your heavies and push attacks it's brutal
vestal pine
ht slaugt combo is just infinitely better on mk4
he strangely recommends thrust headtaker on mk4
fleet zealot
sheer brute forcing i've only ever found on the crusher
fleet zealot
he *strangely* recommends thrust headtaker on mk4
it's heavy angle for thrust is terrible
it's like crucis without the pay off and you have to wait longer for the animation
ornate bone
how many meters redius is coherency by default
fleet zealot
yea but mk4 also has the light spam tech
so unless you go thrust and force yourself to use it, lights do about the same dps for less stagger and better safety
vestal pine
"but muh oneshots" probably
idk he use it to power up normal heavies for hordeclear
which is
why?
fleet zealot
simply having stacks built up, martyr on
vestal pine
i have a decent thrust/slaughterer mk12
fleet zealot
idk he use it to power up normal heavies for hordeclear
what
vestal pine
that i used to cosmetic to a chainglaive
fleet zealot
but
vestal pine
the mk4
fleet zealot
thrust is never worth it for hordeclear
vestal pine
not mk12
fleet zealot
especially cause you want to be weaving push attacks
vestal pine
anyhoo he's quite an outcast, has his own build for everything
better than me but genuinely idk
fleet zealot
hammer doesn't use thrust for horde clear, it's always better for that situation to just throw faster heavies
maiden path
lightning
fleet zealot
anyhoo he's quite an outcast, has his own build for everything
better than me bu...
okay as someone who has had run ins with t*nner
vestal pine
hammer doesn't use thrust for horde clear, it's always better for that situation...
i use one constantly i think to oneshot a few zomvies lol
fleet zealot
just becasue someone is mechanically skilled, doesn't mean they can't be an idiot
vestal pine
just becasue someone is mechanically skilled, doesn't mean they can't be an idio...
well hes a cocky prick
so theres that
hes also went in hospital a few too many times
left iron
The penance doesnt lock you out of using weapons
gaunt yacht
I got lacerate on a really fast military knife as a noobie and this feels incredible
ornate bone
dont u run faster with knife
fleet zealot
4x the possible elite kills
gaunt yacht
yes!
fleet zealot
BM/DB, 4 kills, one swing, complete faster
with swift certainity you are going to go fast asf anyways
gaunt yacht
dodge farther stamina regen quicker and speed increase
ornate bone
i need to craft a hsword that has cleave heavy on first swing
gaunt yacht
high weakness damage stacking with bleed proc off crit or lacerate has been my fav so far
fleet zealot
I got lacerate on a really fast military knife as a noobie and this feels incred...
try to find fleshtearer it's generally better since knife has such high weakspot damage
gaunt yacht
is that the chainsword?
fleet zealot
hsword is heavy sword, fleshtearer is the knife blessing idk who specifically you were asking that too
ornate bone
just go heavy sword
this was actually great advice lol ty
do backstab headhots still count?
vestal pine
i dont see why it wouldnt
ornate bone
idk i dont understand how backstabs work in this game
they're different from game to game
vestal pine
just hit them from 180% back
ornate bone
oh easy then
vestal pine
enemy rolling and showing "back" doesnt count since they are interally still forward i believe
least thats how i interpret it
fleet zealot
do backstab headhots still count?
yes lol
backstab is just the back half of their body
fleet zealot
enemy rolling and showing "back" doesnt count since they are interally still for...
it will once they hit the end of their animation IE hammers have a combo for trash to farm backstab kills against front facing enemies
vestal pine
they do?
fleet zealot
Yes
One of the hammer nerds or exhillious has a video on it, tho it’s meant for cdr farming not really for penances
vestal pine
One of the hammer nerds or exhillious has a video on it, tho it’s meant for cdr ...
hogs and pigs whatever
any link?
vestal pine
median steeple
Did a questline and man the ending was amazing
spare talon
Did a questline and man the ending was amazing
im gonna assume it was ||ymir's||
spare talon
I think im too far to start that one sadly
i think its actually quite disconnected from everything else
so i dont think theres a condition that breaks it
especially considering ||the end has a remembrance boss||
otherwise that would suck
spare talon
no it was ||Igons||
i spend too much time on that boss as a small hammer (spiked club) user, shit was so miserable alone
then i realized i skipped a step in his quests and i could summon him so i just gave up and did that
spare talon
did you get to the woods yet
ive beaten every major boss except the last one
whom im working on right now
my map
median steeple
yeah im in the process of making a build solely for that fight since phase 2 is bad
spare talon
parrying has been quite effective so far
even into phase 2
and i havent even used ashes nor the 2 summons i have ready from questlines
median steeple
wait what is the other summon besides ||ansbach|| which I am also too far since I already did the ||leda fight||
median steeple
what level is your blessing
spare talon
17
grizzled aspen
fighting for my life because whole team is dead
sneezing fit of 6 sneezes back to back
holy revenant saves the day
spare talon
>fighting for my life because whole team is dead
>sneezing fit of 6 sneezes back...
really funny when people say "holy rev is bad cuz you wont be dying in the first place if youre good enough" but then the uncertaintly of everything ever happens
modern lintel
Ez
south folio
people also like to gloss over the fact that having a safety net permits you to take risks you otherwise wouldn't
south folio
josho's mentally ill
obsidian prairie
Like doing very silly hit trading or reviving riskily
royal vortex
(totally pointless because rager swings are dodgeable)
royal vortex
josho's mentally ill
wtf
south folio
it's so weird to see you with your actual name
who the hell is this josho perosn
get out
royal vortex
i could no longer bear to be J)SH)
spare talon
it's so weird to see you with your actual name
so im not the only one
royal vortex
it had to be done
hushed knoll
Go to bedge 
hushed knoll
it's just that shrimple
You've reached your shrimple limit for the year
spare talon
@median steeple 2nd phase is actually not too bad at all
just punishing if you mess up, but once you know whats what, youll rarely mess up
haughty haven
stealth res is ass and you're ass if you do it
maiden path
<@508465754832633896> 2nd phase is actually not too bad at all
erm unrelated
what exotic should i get next
coarse birch
who the hell is this josho perosn
it will not last long
left iron
Into the DLC lands i go 
Mohg was kinda annoying with a +15 weapon
spare talon
ok yeah ok thats cool yeah no thats fine thats great actually
coarse birch
Into the DLC lands i go <a:NODDERS:1073320123227713608> ~~Mohg was kinda annoyin...
have fun
i just beat it today
quite good
left iron
I need to get used to the dodge happening on button release instead of button press
Other than that, the rust is wearing off
spare talon
lets make the final boss ||able to charm you in a grab and you have to use a seperate reusable item from a secret boss to dispell it if youre hit with it and you can use it immediately but youll still be at the mercy of the boss who can 2 shot you cuz he can start attacking IMMEDIATELY||
coarse birch
yeah the final boss was uh
something
the grab actually p much never hit me but
everything else did
left geyser
how much better is uncanny strikes 4 compared to uncanny strikes 3?
coarse birch
not really noticeable
spare talon
how much better is uncanny strikes 4 compared to uncanny strikes 3?
marginally, like small % difference in lower stacks
but at max stacks its the same thing
coarse birch
well actually phase 2 wasnt terrible when he was just doing the normal combos
spare talon
the grab actually p much never hit me but
ive rarely ever been hit by it
but its instant death when i do get hit with it
even with the thing thats supposed to fix it
cuz they didnt fucking account for the fact that you need time to USE THE FUCKING ITEM
coarse birch
honestly i didnt even figure out what it did
left geyser
so i should replace the two mini perks with something like carapace maniac and just not replace the blessings? obv not close to a god roll but hoping for it to be an upgrade on what i have
left geyser
kk
spare talon
is 51% the breakpoint for dodge on knife?
given the nature of it id assume it would be lower but ive never actually checked
north sedge
pretty sure knife gets same dodges regardless?
left iron
Its somewhere around 30%, my 39% knife had 5 dodges, and 25% knife had 4
ornate bone
loner penances suck man i feel so guilty for fucking off to narnia
coarse birch
knife is hard coded to 5 i thought
vestal pine
loner penances suck man i feel so guilty for fucking off to narnia
loner is decent
spare talon
you can literally see on the stat screen that it goes 4|5
left iron
Yes, but is that actually accurate?
median steeple
@spare talon It's done...
median steeple
no I didnt
coarse birch
i didnt even know there was guys
median steeple
because I fucked the questline
median steeple
I would summon ||ansbach|| since he is a homie but yeah
median steeple
I did get hit with the funny during one of my attempts
spare talon
i wouldnt have summoned them but
a lot of bosses tied to quests can have their associated npc available at that point in said quest
and they would have mid-fight dialogue
median steeple
Hilarious ass way to die
left iron
16 mob knife has 4, 32 has 5
ornate bone
is it crits that knock armour down a tier or is that specifically a fotf thing
coarse birch
the only one i bothered with was ||manus's||
i talked to them when i saw them
but other than that not a whole lot with them
coarse birch
is it crits that knock armour down a tier or is that specifically a fotf thing
just fotf
some weapons have crit rending
royal vortex
is it crits that knock armour down a tier or is that specifically a fotf thing
chastise degrades cara to flak and flak to unarmored
nothing else in the game does that
coarse birch
that can essentially ignore a % of armor
royal vortex
me when i chastise a flak enemy with a laspistol and deal less damage
left iron
I have made a terrible mistake buying 10 knives and trying to find them in my inventory
north sedge
i dunno, im having fun so far with the quests
spare talon
mmmmm boy do i like bosses that have attack combos that
- instantly happen at my exact location regardless where they are
- happen significantly faster than i can dodge
- each hit is a forced stagger so getting hit with one means youre getting hit with at least 3 more
north sedge
||i like how the second miquella's great rune breaks leda is like "ok time to kill all the nonbelievers, whoever i feel that is"||
coarse birch
i didnt have too much true combo issies
i actually liked all the bosses in the DLC
main bosses at least
other than the final boss
i need to really learn them properly before i solidify my opinion on them
but overall they felt much better than base ER bosses
||lansseaxx reskin is dogshit though||
spare talon
i didnt have too much true combo issies
ive probably seen final boss do like 5 normal combos across all of my attemps
everything else hes done has been these combos im talking about
im just getting stupid unlucky
coarse birch
yeah i spent 6 hours on him and theres a few moves i still dont have a 100% answer to despite having 1000 hours in base ER
and i didnt really struggle with other DLC bosses a ton
other than 1
but then final boss just made no sense to me with half of his moveset in phase 2
seems like im not alone though
sterile stone
It's wild to think people review bombed the DLC cause they thought it was too hard
coarse birch
i mean i think everything was fine till final boss, he just entered stupid territory
things should have consistent counterplay at the least
im not saying there isnt counterplay to some stuff he has and i just didnt figure it out
but i spent a long time trying to figure it out
spare talon
what am i supposed to do
coarse birch
and i did not
frosty herald
Swarm of flies my beloved
royal vortex
and i did not
(he didnt try it with ranch)
coarse birch
what am i supposed to do
dodge back on the clones, sideways on the final part of it, in on the final AOE
worked best for me
as i said wasnt 100%
sterile stone
what am i supposed to do
@lean lark
coarse birch
but thats the best i came up with
i found all back or all front just got me true combod
coarse birch
(he didnt try it with ranch)
im gonna eat you with ranch
spare talon
oh i thought i had bloodhound step on this knife
royal vortex
😳
spare talon
but then i remembered i put it on my club for malenia
coarse birch
😇
coarse birch
what am i supposed to do
also you can jump away from the rocks, i found that to be a bit better than dodging
grizzled aspen
what am i supposed to do
They did not have to make him go so hard.
coarse birch
its a shame phase 2 feels so shit phase one was fun
by the time i beat him i was hitlessing phase 1 and then phase 2 was when i would struggle
frosty herald
I beat the final boss using the power of friendship
neat drum
I beat the final boss using loner zealot
spare talon
ok thats it
i got ||to the meteor part that triggers at like 10% of his health|| and lived through it
im counting that as a win
coarse birch
lmao
spare talon
time to summon my quest npcs and beat this guy to death
i wonder if they also have mid boss dialogue
modern lintel
I keep seeing everyone saying mimic is best summon but i dont remember if it was malenia specific but the black knife assassin i think it was called was a rlly good summon for that
spare talon
mimic is just the best flat out all around
north sedge
Black knife does well alot of the time
spare talon
like other may be slightly better for specific things, but mimic is fucking overpowered everywhere
cuz its just another you
modern lintel
I think black knifes main thing was it was able to do ok dmg but it moved like crazy and was hard for the boss to hit
Maybe im mistaken havent played since release
north sedge
The hp reduction debuff aint shabby either
Yea she moves a ton and knocks down humanoid enemies alot
spare talon
watch me absolutely obliterate this guys ass first try with mimic, ||thiollier||, and ||ansbach|| to back me up
ok nvm i probably just tripled the bosses health doing that lmao
median steeple
what am i supposed to do
nothing
you do nothing
second phase has a couple of attacks like that
its bad
merry flume
rate my fit
median steeple
im tempted to bring my dragon and madness build into this dlc but they're on ng+
I would be gimping myself if I use my madness build however
spare talon
i just had the best run of the final boss ever
then he did 3 flurry combos in a row
why
how
i was down only 2 flasks at that point
god why
obsidian prairie
I would be gimping myself if I use my madness build however
Counterpoint, insane people lasers
obsidian prairie
Switching builds as soon as I saw the invader who had the giant range laser
median steeple
I have a cosplay build built around vyke
love that guy and his story
banged a dragon and almost became elden lord
what a guy
obsidian prairie
Wait what
median steeple
I forgot what dragon but you fight them her and vyke had a very close relationship
iirc
it's been so long
Lansseax would take human form and fall in love with vyke
frosty herald
like other may be slightly better for specific things, but mimic is fucking over...
Even with revered ashes my summons get melted
obsidian prairie
Lansseax would take human form and fall in love with vyke
The dude with the spear after them?
frosty herald
I wish madness was more useful in pve
Have you been to the ||abyss|| yet?
median steeple
I hate how mimic seems to be the only real option in the dlc if you want actual value
median steeple
Have you been to the ||abyss|| yet?
yes horrible place
not even torrent wants to go
cool boss tho
frosty herald
You wanna know how to get a talisman for your build
median steeple
fuck did I miss a madness talisman?
spare talon
holy fucking shit
can you please do more unparriable attacks
i love those
i love 10 of those in a row pleas yummy thanks
north sedge
Black knife works well most of the time
frosty herald
||parry the winter lanterns just as theyre about to grab you the nearest one near the abandoned church for an aged one's exhultation||
median steeple
The dude with the spear after them?
yeah
obsidian prairie
No the dragon
frosty herald
||parry the winter lanterns just as theyre about to grab you the nearest one nea...
@median steeple
obsidian prairie
Lansaux has a spear
median steeple
||parry the winter lanterns just as theyre about to grab you the nearest one nea...
frosty herald
If you miss the parry timing its an instant kill unless your at full hp
median steeple
also fuck you fromsoft you hacks
putting the fucking ||winter lanterns|| in elden ring
obsidian prairie
Fucking French dragon names
vestal pine
all them have socks in they name
median steeple
I love elden ring dragons way more than dark souls dragons
obsidian prairie
They have the lighting this time