people out here blowing literal life changing cash on memes
#zealot-class
delicate shadow
frosty herald
he actualy got into financial trouble after the vid alledgedly
maiden path
rise up gooners
median steeple
reclaim the word goon
willow meteor
just got the loner penance done time to never use it again thank fuck its over
spare talon
some people have a hard time doing callouts based on clock positions so the alternative is the unit circle 
lethal lance
some people have a hard time doing callouts based on clock positions so the alte...
radians are truth. that's funny.
hushed knoll
Is your calculator in radian mode
hushed knoll
lethal lance
we are GOONERS
spare talon
Goons. Hired goons.
maiden path
how i love you capeless helldiver mod
maiden path
this armor makes me so sad
i have no cape that matches its colors
and without a cape its too high off the back
soon u will be mine
frosty herald
just gotta spend a day to farm like 4k credits
lethal lance
that goes well with winter armor, just to say
maiden path
just gotta spend a day to farm like 4k credits
ohmahgawd im notr doing dat
i might farm a tiny bit
shouldnt take long
frosty herald
istg if the playable character is Z broly
lethal lance
it's not 4K, it's 1.000, just like all the others; I already had it before the pack dropped
frosty herald
im preordering anyway so i dont have an issue
frosty herald
it's not 4K, it's 1.000, just like all the others; I already had it before the p...
4k is just to have a nice stockpile
lethal lance
I mean, sure. I think you can get 300 back from the pack itself
lethal lance
250/300 something like that. Every pack has spacebux unlocks
hushed knoll
DBZ jumped the shark so much
Dragon ball I mean
Like
The new stuff is so stupid imo
maiden path
just let me open these bitches solo!!!!!!!
median steeple
no
maiden path
bro is geekin
north sedge
The new stuff is so stupid imo
Always was silly anime, og DragonBall is a straight comedy
frosty herald
he took fent
indigo harbor
Is there a trick to dealing with beasts of nurgle when using an eviserator? I have a lot of trouble
hushed knoll
Always was silly anime, og DragonBall is a straight comedy
DRAGON BALLS ACROSS UR FACE
OOOOO
GET REKT
indigo harbor
Can deal with plague ogryns and spawn a lot easier
frosty herald
Is there a trick to dealing with beasts of nurgle when using an eviserator? I ha...
make sure you complete the rev animation when activated
and attack after baiting the tailswipe
north sedge
Idk what came over me
you've been different ever since you throated yourself
hushed knoll
DOUGH NOOOO
drifting wolf
bro is geekin
elf
coarse birch
I miss stan
spare talon
fatshark can we get a quickplay button that only queues into progress games 
hushed knoll
I miss stan
WTF I'M RIGHT HERE
spare talon
I miss stan
i havent seen him in so long
hushed knoll
Coke wytg
spare dome
sometimes i can still hear him
hushed knoll
Dopamine
north sedge
it's a shame stan was never heard from again after he throated himself
spare talon
sometimes i can still hear him
its like i can still hear the typos
hushed knoll
sometimes i can still hear him
EXPLIETS WRD
WTF
I can't tu;e when I'm bed angeling
north sedge
its like i can still hear the typos
he speaks them too, it's impressive
hushed knoll
he speaks them too, it's impressive
Ur face
fleet zealot
I HATE CRAVINGS
holy shit
i want birria tacos
and there is only one place that makes em good
6 miles away
north sedge
spare talon
will you guys send me a birthday gift when i reach lvl 1000
hushed knoll
WHY
visual stream
will you guys send me a birthday gift when i reach lvl 1000
what scented soap would you prefer
(all jokes)
hushed knoll
i want birria tacos
I would put birria tacos in a bowl and pour the sauce over them and eat them with a fork and knife
Some say it’s docnteaveraial but I don’t think it is
Controversial
hushed knoll
Seems like you’re getting the BRINE of bad luck
BRUNT
Goddamn phone ruining my joke
spare talon
like he has no reason to be having all of these in the same rotation
merry flume
brunt had perfect rolls in rotation right before the first crafting qol patch
member?
fleet zealot
Some say it’s docnteaveraial but I don’t think it is
docnteaveraial
this is what you say
it's a dipping food, you don't cover ur pretzel with cheese or mustard YOU DIP EM
spare talon
thats it
im changing my height
frosty herald
will you guys send me a birthday gift when i reach lvl 1000
spare talon
i will see what its like no longer being a min height zealot
hushed knoll
it's a dipping food, you don't cover ur pretzel with cheese or mustard YOU DIP E...
I do
misty nova
hushed knoll
I've put pretzels on a plate before and eaten them with fork and knife after rubbing the salt off
And covering them in cheese
vestal pine
oh my god
speaking of i heard groan/pox was actually unarmored/infested +10% is thay true
frosty herald
this guy fucking smells
Doing farum azula before the dlc smh
steep flame
Doing farum azula before the dlc smh
wdym
frosty herald
Real men will go straight to mohg after doing liurna
steep flame
malikeths just a dog that needs to be put down
frosty herald
with starter gear?
Nah with the clayman harpoon obv
vestal pine
havent played elden ring
bought one
just never got around playing it
might do today
but armored core 6....
frosty herald
Ive done every ending every arena fight every part bought
The only thing i actualy need to do is S rank all missions
I also S ranked every final bossfight alongside ibis
steep flame
ive done all the arenas too
but i was working on getting all the marked enemies or whatever they are
frosty herald
Combat logs
Lets just say S ranking every mission is the only thing i havent done yet
frosty herald
The real annoying one is getting the data logs
steep flame
getting tired of the stagger laser slicer combo
also idk maybe im just using the wrong fcs' but i swear my missiles never hit
frosty herald
Look at missile correction
You have one for single target and the other multilock
I think soft lock has better accuracy instead of hardlock
frosty herald
Cook cook flamethrowers
surreal shore
So
steep flame
honest brutes a bit of a freak
steep flame
i didnt know coral drugs got you that freaky
surreal shore
I must say it's horde clear isnt that bad
But its single target is kind of meh
I'm pretty sure chainaxe out damages it
steep flame
if you build around it heavy evisc gets some crazy damage
but you want the new one for damage
surreal shore
I changed the wrath to shred so ignore that
surreal shore
It's okay it ain't no thunder hammer though also chainaxe gets thrust so
Its hugely to its advantage
I'm guessing you must be running martyrdom for it to do those crazy damages
steep flame
I changed the wrath to shred so ignore that
pretty sure cleave doesnt really matter on the new one
idk tho
steep flame
mb
surreal shore
Nah its fine but I think it's matbe cuz
I was running momentum
It didn't have crazy damsage
steep flame
momentum funny
surreal shore
I ran that cuz I also ran braced auto with it
Braced auto wirh momentum is kind of crazy
sterile basalt
I changed the wrath to shred so ignore that
This is really good
misty nova
But its single target is kind of meh
Always rev heavy
sterile basalt
It's okay it ain't no thunder hammer though also chainaxe gets thrust so
Besides the meme thunder hammer 1 shot, usually EV15 has nearly the same boss dps with much better anti-elite effectiveness
sterile basalt
But its single target is kind of meh
It’s actually one of the highest available
north sedge
evis does not get anywhere near hammer boss dmg
evis15 is a solid weapon but people tend to vastly overvalue it
livid oak
What's the best melee and ranged for killing crushers and bulwarks
misty nova
Best melee Evis15
north sedge
🤔
misty nova
Slap bloodthirsty and go to town
north sedge
chaxe does it better, crusher manhandles any pack as well
and for ranged, flamer with fotf
clear knot
misty nova
Yeah that
vestal pine
and for ranged, flamer with fotf
still have zero idea if this actually does good damage
since crushers take 2
north sedge
flamer with fotf can kill many many many crushers
north sedge
since crushers take 2
vestal pine
https://discord.com/channels/727074276724965407/1046913589614747719/118965392911...
man
so you have to hit 15 tic before activating fotf?
hidden elk
trying for a more ranged focus build. based on supporting through area denial. i already have the chorus of spiritual fortitude ability, the holy relic one, and immolation grenade. what kind of ranged weapon should i use? I've been trying the flamer buy its damage and range aren't to my liking.
neat drum
Dmg is bonkers, wdym
north sedge
there isn't really a ranged build, the talents don't add up to enough dmg to be worth it
hidden elk
Dmg is bonkers, wdym
maybe for a horde yeah but single target damage is not worth it. id like something with more oomf
neat drum
Well yeah, is meant for hordes lol
But anyways, you can use all that and still go melee focused, zealot isn't really a ranged dude
neat drum
I do run a support zealot
north sedge
flamer is one of the strongest weapons (if you use fotf)
hidden elk
fotf?
neat drum
The horde makes the most problem in any game, so dealing with it is the best way to support
You can leave the vet ot psyker to deal with key targets
They can do it easier if you keep horde cleared
And flamer excels at that
hidden elk
gotcha
hidden elk
ahhh
neat drum
Often times I like to swap to stun grenade, so I can res people easier
split ibex
I have a knife zealot (blade & throwing) that uses flamer to decent effect
Throwing knives cancel the swap animation too. So flamer and Bolter really like them
split ibex
trying for a more ranged focus build. based on supporting through area denial. i...
Bolter is actually pretty damn good on zealot
hidden elk
i have bolter on my original build
split ibex
Ah I just saw the comment about ranged focused zealot
neat drum
i have bolter on my original build
I like this build a lot, and it works with any weapon really, since you aren't fully speccing into anything
Obviously you're losing a lot of dmg, which is what zealot is good at, but I enjoy the support gameplay
You can swap to the middle blitz/aura, either way works
I just like the stun more for revives, and the toughness dr is more consistent value
spare talon
I like this build a lot, and it works with any weapon really, since you aren't f...
im not gonna lie
youd probably a bigger support with the other side of piety for more crits, ergo more chorus
neat drum
Yeah but that's on the "you're supporting by just murdering everything" which is just pure dps. Yes it makes sense, but I rather be a support my team by enhancing them instead
Just a preference thing
royal vortex
I like this build a lot, and it works with any weapon really, since you aren't f...
you should drop blood redemption and the master's retribution and path to second wind
the master's retribution just isn't useful enough to warrant it and second wind provides significantly more toughness than blood redemption while also being vastly more versatile
spare talon
Yeah but that's on the "you're supporting by just murdering everything" which is...
not really
it increases your crit chance by 10%, which means more of your attacks are crits, solely for the sake of crit cdr, which you need all you can get since chorus is a 60 second cooldown
and chorus more often is much more valuable as a support thing than giving other people 10% crit chance (not to mention it being less sustainable for yourself, meaning even less crit chance for you moment to moment)
neat drum
Which is second wind again?
royal vortex
top right, left above tknives
spare talon
like im not trying to be "erm this is better cuz more dmg" im talkin in regards to what you actually want out of the build
split ibex
Yeah but that's on the "you're supporting by just murdering everything" which is...
That's the best kind of support
neat drum
In terms of value yes. Like I said, in my case is just a preference thing
spare talon
oh i completely forgot the chorus damage buff too
yeah 20% more damage more often vs 10% chance for your team to deal some more damage, potentially a miniscule amount depending on your teams weapons
neat drum
like im not trying to be "erm this is better cuz more dmg" im talkin in regards ...
With scourge you're already critting plenty for the chorus to come back quick enough. I love giving everyone around me 10% crit chance
The only "bad" side would be monsters, but in auric, enemies keep spawning so is easy to keep piety active even during monsters
hidden elk
did the spiritual fortitude ability get nerfed? i feel like it repels nothing
vestal pine
there isn't really a ranged build, the talents don't add up to enough dmg to be ...
did try to make with agrapina brauto
it wasnt bad but vet or a gunpsyker can do better lmfao
vestal pine
trying for a more ranged focus build. based on supporting through area denial. i...
if you really wanna play gunzealot
i recommend agrapina braced autogun
that pen goes a long way
fleet zealot
The horde makes the most problem in any game, so dealing with it is the best way...
it doesn't
elites and specs do, the vast majority of players can handle horde clear
neat drum
Clearing elites and specs are a problem when you have a horde in your butt. A decent vet or psyker and deal with those if they don't have to swap to their melee to block a horde
spare talon
Clearing elites and specs are a problem when you have a horde in your butt. A de...
not really
the only way this is ever a problem is if you are 360 surrounded by a horde and cant dodge whatever specialist you need to, and if youre in that spot, you really need to reevaluate how you position yourself
i cant tell you how many times i literally fully reload my revolver with an entire horde in my face and take 0 damage cuz i can just dodge them
split sable
i got a question, and sorry if its been asked before, but do the blessings "wrath" and "cleave" stack/work well together?
for the heavy eviscerator
spare talon
i got a question, and sorry if its been asked before, but do the blessings "wrat...
they do stack, but there is no need for that much cleave
and the only one that needs cleave is the mk2, the mk15 has so much innate cleave its a waste, esp since it has a hard damage cap of 4 targets per swing
split sable
i figured as much, only reason i was asking was because i got a pretty good one after a mission reward, and the blessings it came with are "rev it up" and "wrath" level 4
so would it be worthwhile to replace rev it up with shred for the extra crit?
split sable
and the only one that needs cleave is the mk2, the mk15 has so much innate cleav...
also, i appreciate the info
spare talon
so would it be worthwhile to replace rev it up with shred for the extra crit?
if youre using a crit build, then yea
otherwise replace it with rampage
split sable
yes, was trying it out with a crit build. Thanks again! 
spare talon
im actually quitting this game
mutant in a mutant wave threw me into the relay station fan and i instantly died
placid fiber
I changed the wrath to shred so ignore that
Aw man, you're all out of wrath? What are you gonna use the kill the heretics, now... hugs and kisses?
median steeple
bullets
placid fiber
That does sound more effective than hugs and kisses.
Then again, what do I know? I'm crazy after all.
night grove
what do you guys think i should do to this, change it to flak/maniac? or keep elites change out one of the perks and deathspitter to like full bore or fire frenzy?
neat drum
what do you guys think i should do to this, change it to flak/maniac? or keep el...
What mod adds the description to keywords
spare talon
im running out of things to buy to stay below the cap
vestal pine
im running out of things to buy to stay below the cap
just buy 380 weapons
im sure they wont renew that
cuz they stupid
fleet zealot
i got a question, and sorry if its been asked before, but do the blessings "wrat...
idk if you knew or were told, but cleave only affects the amount of mass you can swing through, it doesn't help damage fall off or damage caps (like the mk15 evi)
vestal pine
mk2 doesnt have that right
might go make one
if i had the plasteel
im back to 9k
least 20k under my belt would be nuce
fleet zealot
mk2 doesnt have that right
mk2 does not have a damage cap, once it hits the fall off cap, the damage amount will be fixed through all targets
fleet zealot
zealots get his so much and targeted so hard by AI
it's nothing compared to the potshots you'll take as ogryn
unborn bridge
i find im using chorus every recharge
does ogryn have godly toughness or something?
fleet zealot
you really need to be using slides, enemy as meatshields/cover
spare talon
zealots get his so much and targeted so hard by AI
but zealot has so many means of both avoiding damage and mitigating it
fleet zealot
ogryn has less toughness than zealot, more HP, but they can get more "coherency toughness regen"
zealot focuses on non coherency sources of toughness, and has high toughness and can get high toughness DR
unborn bridge
i rely on psker shields or coherency because i mainly use ranged
melee is really only for the elites or the red bars
fleet zealot
that isn't really how you play zealot
tropic pelican
zealot is all about getting stuck in with melee though
unborn bridge
yea that i think is correct
vestal pine
mk2 does not have a damage cap, once it hits the fall off cap, the damage amount...
it has min dmg got it
unborn bridge
becuase i'm dying or taking wounds a lot
spare talon
your best way of surviving is literally when youre in tons of danger, ironically
tropic pelican
you get a ton of tools for reducing toughness damage you take, replenishing toughness and just being able to dodge everything
vestal pine
but zealot has so many means of both avoiding damage and mitigating it
if you're bad tbh its only one way, killing more
fleet zealot
if you want a ranged focused playstyle while still buffing melee, go veteran and go the right side tree
zealot doesn't really have a ranged build, just a more "hybrid" build
vestal pine
too bad the best perks for survival usually is in throwy knives which dint hit the knack with everyone since its a skillshot
unborn bridge
my strategy so far is ranged because i can shoot well, then melee for overruns and when i need chorus up
fleet zealot
full of temp buffs and like, one ranged damage talent
unborn bridge
which is every 20-30 seconds it feels like
vestal pine
my strategy so far is ranged because i can shoot well, then melee for overruns a...
you should really go vet
and not play zealot
fleet zealot
my strategy so far is ranged because i can shoot well, then melee for overruns a...
you don't really shoot well compared to vet and our ammo econ is shit
tropic pelican
yeah vet with voice of command sounds up your alley
fleet zealot
voice of command -> head right for weapon specialist keystone
spare talon
my strategy so far is ranged because i can shoot well, then melee for overruns a...
thats just not how zealot works
vestal pine
i can and had made a ranged focus build
A. you still need a knife or something to kill stranglers/crushers
B. ammo economy is terrible than that of a veteran
spare talon
like you will have a really not good time if you try to force that on zealot
unborn bridge
well autoguns suck for zealot
vestal pine
fotf and momentum is nice but vet just has more power in general
fleet zealot
we have like one permanent talent outside of your keystone (martyrdom doesn't work for ranged at all so it's blazing piety or inexorable judgement) and that is close range damage
wdym autoguns rock on zealot
unborn bridge
lasguns and boltguns work okay
neat drum
my strategy so far is ranged because i can shoot well, then melee for overruns a...
Play vet, that's the ranged class, zealot ranged is not that good compared to his melee
vestal pine
well autoguns suck for zealot
go use agrapina autogun, probably one of the best gun zealot can get their hands on
if you are using boltgun on crowds you really need to reeducate yourself
fleet zealot
mk3 Headhunter, agri brace auto, and the columbus infantry auto, all amazing on zealot in their own flavors
whether you like burst fire, generic full auto, or rambo mode
also, fotf is just better ability with ranged
spare talon
lasguns and boltguns work okay
lasguns are honestly probably the worst option on zealot actually
vestal pine
i wish lasguns were good on zealot
neat drum
Brunts armory
vestal pine
it not in the req store
brunt armory
unborn bridge
profane stuff?
neat drum
You can craft it yourself from scratch
unborn bridge
does it ever roll up high dmg?
vestal pine
you can upgrade it with plasteel,
neat drum
Sometimes
fleet zealot
don't buy for rolls till you are levle 30
vestal pine
^
fleet zealot
don't even bother crafting really till then
neat drum
The roll is rng, just gotta keep rolling
neat drum
Also yeha I was assuming you were 30
fleet zealot
they 25
spare talon
does it ever roll up high dmg?
you roll those for the base stats, then upgrade them later
but yeah dont worry about it till lvl 30, just see which weapons you like
vestal pine
oh 25
unborn bridge
yep so im stuck with lasguns and boters. boltguns are nice, it shoots straight through a bunch of them
vestal pine
shucks
neat drum
But really really, if you mainly use guns, don't play zealot, play veteran
fleet zealot
boltgun sucks ass now compared to it's heyday
vestal pine
imma scream on you for shooting boltgun onto a basic zombies
fleet zealot
absolutely terribel ammo and handling
unborn bridge
oh
fleet zealot
and they adjusted it's stats to play as a precision weapon, which can work on veteran
unborn bridge
don't scream at boltgun fan
fleet zealot
but magdumping isn't really effective except vs a dense bulwark/crusher packs
neat drum
In the name of all that is holy, please play veteran
vestal pine
you are wasting ammo
unborn bridge
it's okay with saint gunslinger (boltgun)
vestal pine
no
unborn bridge
the 30% reload is helpful
neat drum
unborn bridge
yes that's true
neat drum
This is worse than heresy
vestal pine
vet gets 30% reload speed from killing any special in like lvl 2
unborn bridge
okay so i hear you all
fleet zealot
blasting hordes just isn't something zealot can do once the game scales up
neat drum
Not with the gun
unborn bridge
veteran might be better suited
fleet zealot
we need to save ammo for things outside our range
unborn bridge
the way i play
unborn bridge
flamer is awesome
fleet zealot
they aren't running with fotf
unborn bridge
can't find a good one though
fleet zealot
so their flamer will fall off too
neat drum
Pls play vet, if you're planning to play ranged, which you are
fleet zealot
don't worry about flamer till 30
vestal pine
flamer is awesome
if you're more comfortable with ranged weaponry spam usually vet is better
fleet zealot
you need 76% burn and 76% cloud radius
neat drum
You just need to level up
spare talon
so their flamer will fall off too
tbh i use flamer with my knife build but that makes sense, even with the lack of fotf
neat drum
I think they meant 15% dmg in the weapon stat
fleet zealot
15dmg is the last one i saw
flamer is a rare example of damage being the dump stat
it doesn't matter
cloud radius and burn, and then ammo
that's what you want
fleet zealot
burns last Breakpoint is 76%
vestal pine
16
unborn bridge
jetstreaming it spikes the dmg
unborn bridge
but 15 seems too low. it was a redeemed
fleet zealot
not the direct impact
vestal pine
tbh direct impact isnt bad
neat drum
but 15 seems too low. it was a redeemed
The quality doesn't matter as much, is all about the stat roll
spare talon
mmm i think it goes higher than 15 light attack
oh youre reading the damage of the actual burn impact, not the burn
which is literally the least important part, thats the damage of the instance the burn is applied
unborn bridge
can flamer take down a red bar?
vestal pine
gimme
unborn bridge
make s sense though dont' wear burning metal armor
vestal pine
the power of flamer isn't the hordeclear
i mean it kinda is
neat drum
Guys, stop fueling it, they need to swap to vet asap 
vestal pine
mixed horde remover
fleet zealot
THIS I love this
fleet zealot
make s sense though dont' wear burning metal armor
without fotf it won't work
they'll barely take burn damage
unborn bridge
it's only been a day or so but gawd i got to level up another. i was thinking psker that is a ranged too
fleet zealot
or somehow juggling an uncanny strike buff from knife
vestal pine
it's only been a day or so but gawd i got to level up another. i was thinking ps...
psyker is too squishy, if you're getting downed as zealot, highly recommend you to play vet instead
neat drum
it's only been a day or so but gawd i got to level up another. i was thinking ps...
Do veteran
fleet zealot
it's only been a day or so but gawd i got to level up another. i was thinking ps...
anyways, you don't know this i'm guessing, but fotf has a secret ranged component, if you don't melee your ranged attacks will deal damage as if the enemy was one armor type lower for a short duration
ripe quest
https://discord.com/channels/727074276724965407/1046913589614747719/118965392911...
I'm impressed that my archaic video is still circulating.
vestal pine
or if you like chunky ones ogryn since ogryn weapons are pretty limited(=you can get good rolls on it easily and fill out the entire arsenal if you plan to make multiple loadouts)
fleet zealot
psyker is a glass cannon, they can def melee cause they have strong class options, dueling mk4, illisi and deimos force swords
but they are squishy if you emss up
neat drum
Judging by what they have said about their playstyle, veteran is the way to go
fleet zealot
yea
vestal pine
vet is the only way to go
fleet zealot
veteran going down to shout -> then going right into weapon specialist
fleet zealot
basically the bread and butter of hybrid building
neat drum
psykers have crowd control which is issue levelling up
This is honestly a skill issue, that you will fix as you get more experience, no class will fix this. Only knowledge
fleet zealot
getting overrun
build up peril for vent, since the knockback scales with current peril
vestal pine
i think you should really learn how melees work in this game
this aint something like payday you can just ammo to kill every horde in the game
neat drum
Melee is big in both tide games
fleet zealot
assail
unborn bridge
well as far as i know melee involves a lot of blocking
fleet zealot
yea, melee is huge, different weapons have different swing patterns
nope
that's vt2
unborn bridge
when i see good melee players
south folio
blocking is very weak and not particularly emphasized in this game
fleet zealot
DT is much more dodge focused
neat drum
well as far as i know melee involves a lot of blocking
Yes, and you will need to fo it, no matter what class you are
fleet zealot
blocking is a tool you'll need to use yes
vestal pine
blocking is very weak and not particularly emphasized in this game
unless shield blocking is more reserved for dodging i guess
south folio
the best early advice is to split your dodge and jump keybinds
fleet zealot
but it is not like vt2 where everyone was stacking stam and block efficiency
unborn bridge
this one time a guy block pushed his way out of certain 360 death
it was neat to watch
south folio
because the default behavior is that you jump when your dodge is in cooldown
fleet zealot
blocking is 360 it just takes more stam the farther the target is out of your field of view
south folio
and splitting your keybinds lets you just spam your dodge button without worrying
vestal pine
the best early advice is to split your dodge and jump keybinds
curse upon ye to whoever decided that this was a good idea
neat drum
this one time a guy block pushed his way out of certain 360 death
Yep, blocking blocks everything around you, even behind. Just requires mor stamina
vestal pine
unless ranged
neat drum
curse upon ye to whoever decided that this was a good idea
I really cant
vestal pine
not like your swords deflect bullets
fleet zealot
knowing what your tools are to stagger, knowing when to dodge or block
fleet zealot
you likely don't know how to build melee either
unborn bridge
coherency is issue
fleet zealot
but sometimes i get pinned by ranged then
use enemies as meatshields
slide into cover
vestal pine
teach this man how to slide
fleet zealot
coherency regen doesn't work in melee combat
neat drum
He's playing ranged zealot, he doesn't know like amything
unborn bridge
ty
vestal pine
also get him some toughness regen perk curios
fleet zealot
idk how you get to 25 i'm being nice and assuming there is some knowledge in there
fleet zealot
also get him some toughness regen perk curios
no
south folio
should run the top-right branch and get second wind (toughness on dodge) if toughness regen is an issue
neat drum
idk how you get to 25 i'm being nice and assuming there is some knowledge in the...
Carried
fleet zealot
wtf we zealot we get toughness elsewhere i hate coherency regen
fleet zealot
are you saying
neat drum
Chorus doesnt even do dmg
fleet zealot
monstrosities?
vestal pine
wtf we zealot we get toughness elsewhere i hate coherency regen
its either kills or dodges lol
unborn bridge
monstrosties yep
vestal pine
imho kinda bad
fleet zealot
chorus is not somethign i'd start with
unborn bridge
i use a power weapon, thunder hammer or chain sword
fleet zealot
it takes your dps to 0
vestal pine
thunderhammer
unborn bridge
it melts monstrosities when activated
fleet zealot
wouldn't use thunderhammer much either, the other options are good
vestal pine
jeez
neat drum
i'm good at ranged and killing red bars with chorus
So, here's the deal that we keep trying to say. Zealot isn't the class to play ranged, do with that what you wil
fleet zealot
but thunderhammer relies on thrust 4 blessing
unborn bridge
i hit the weak spot on the monstrosities
fleet zealot
and it isn't good vs hordes which makes it bad for a hybrid playstyle
unborn bridge
does 1/3 bar sometimes with 260 base
fleet zealot
chainweapons and crusher would do more at your level
vestal pine
lets be real if they use thammer they arent that good into melee either cuasr it does suck compared to other options against horde
neat drum
does 1/3 bar sometimes with 260 base
What difficulty are you playing on?
neat drum
Sound about right
fleet zealot
does 1/3 bar sometimes with 260 base
base item level/player score level is meaningless besides the actual distribution/where you are getting the score from
it isn't like vt2 where your equipped ilvl also changed your general stats ingame
neat drum
Already tried to say gear rating didn't matter as much, but I don't think they are reading since they keep trying to excuse ranged zealof
fleet zealot
only matters is the mod distribution, and what blessings/perks you have cause they are not all equal
delicate shadow
that's vt2
not even vt2
unborn bridge
chorus with 20% dmg boost
delicate shadow
hell vt1 even didn't really involve a lot of blocking
neat drum
Gl on your missions
unborn bridge
some melee dmg increases, impact increases from center tree
neat drum
We know how it works
fleet zealot
t1 Brutal momentum on a combat axe is >>>> t4 of a shit blessing
fleet zealot
some melee dmg increases, impact increases from center tree
don't need impact
it's just stagger
vestal pine
t1 Brutal momentum on a combat axe is >>>> t4 of a shit blessing
limbsplitter
fleet zealot
limbsplitter is like, fine on vet and that's it but that's cause they are encouraged to juggle
unborn bridge
saintly gunner is the other choice and 30% reload increase speed is not really helpful
delicate shadow
100%
blocking is more viable in VT2 because of block cost reduction being standard but you should only block if you actually need to. Blocking is not optimal at all
unborn bridge
burns ammo faster
fleet zealot
like, there was someone talking about thrust caxe in vet chat, and i was wondering, why not just use limbsplitter, same 60% bonus
vestal pine
100%
blocking is more viable in VT2 because of block cost reduction being stand...
ivmean its a defensive option
delicate shadow
it's a defensive option in any tide game
vestal pine
like, there was someone talking about thrust caxe in vet chat, and i was wonderi...
i was
split sable
idk if you knew or were told, but cleave only affects the amount of mass you can...
nah, i didn't know. i just got around to using the evis so still learning about it. i've been using it as a crit/chorus build on auric missions. if theres a hoarde the thing just kills everrything and i can get my chorus back to give the lads 20% extra damage the entire fight. its pretty nice, i like using it so far.
fleet zealot
nah, i didn't know. i just got around to using the evis so still learning about ...
the issue with chorus damage buff is that your team might not even make up for your own personal dps loss
delicate shadow
the buff nodes for chorus are pretty low value tbh, it screws with point economy and often isn't that much of an upgrade
fleet zealot
and you can hit HUGE dps, so stopping that can be counterproductive and you are relying on teammates too hard
split sable
the issue with chorus damage buff is that your team might not even make up for y...
i still get it after 5 pulses right?
unborn bridge
i see. the addons for chorus not that great
delicate shadow
I'm a chorus enjoyer but I'd never take the buff nodes for it
vestal pine
I'm a chorus enjoyer but I'd never take the buff nodes for it
i do
fleet zealot
you rely on teammates to be competent on their own, not for them to be buff recipients
delicate shadow
I don't play chorus spam
fleet zealot
i post too many ferrets i need to find this ranged build i made
vestal pine
I don't play chorus spam
if its not spam i'd not take it
unborn bridge
if that's the case, team mates self reliant, what about the left tree with crit chance increase for team
fleet zealot
I don't play chorus spam
why does the discord server keep kicking me out of the builds threads
fleet zealot
if that's the case, team mates self reliant, what about the left tree with crit ...
go right everytime
cerulean moth
fleet zealot
it's just personally better
delicate shadow
why does the discord server keep kicking me out of the builds threads
no idea
unborn bridge
that's what i did, right tree
vestal pine
i really need a lefty build
unborn bridge
but it's less powerful than center, but problem with center is there's no healing to bring you back up
fleet zealot
that's what i did, right tree
no i meant, right side of the blazing piety keystone
unborn bridge
oh i see
vestal pine
but it's less powerful than center, but problem with center is there's no healin...
classic marty loophole
marty has base damage but piety has crits
fleet zealot
martyrdom you just let chip damage build up you don't aim to go down, it's strong but you need wound curios, you get holy revanant talent
vestal pine
zealots have many weapons in their arsenal that has great crit damage
fleet zealot
inexorable judgement is the safe keystone if you don't want to go martyr and your weapon doesn't scale well off crits
unborn bridge
well rigth now of the weapons i know of, thunderhammer, then heavy eviscerator are my melee choices
how am i doing so far
vestal pine
not good
fleet zealot
i'd ditch thunderhammer till 30
heavy evisc can be fine, just look for rampage blessing of any tier
vestal pine
i'd ditch thunderhammer till 30
300*
fleet zealot
yea, that's the time you'll finally find thrust 4
the blessing that makes thammer insane
vestal pine
the blessing that makes thammer insane
im determined to play skullcrusher thunderous crusis to see what is like
extremely cursed probably
unborn bridge
i think mine has trauma on it
10% dmg increase stacks 5 times per repeated hit (x5)
vestal pine
just level up
fleet zealot
found my hybrid zealot builds I dinked together, these are not good, but they should be "viable"
fleet zealot
10% dmg increase stacks 5 times per repeated hit (x5)
no
impact is just stagger
no damage
power=damage, cleave and stagger
damage=damage
stagger/impact=stagger
unborn bridge
woah okay ty
void bison
vestal pine
found my hybrid zealot builds I dinked together, these are not good, but they sh...
i was wondering where you got the points but then just realized you ditched revanant
tropic pelican
100%
blocking is more viable in VT2 because of block cost reduction being stand...
recovering from guard break also only takes a split second in vt2 compared to how long it takes to recover in darktide
fleet zealot
cleave=doesn't effect cleave damage, just the amount of hitmass you can swing through, some weapons have a hard target cap like the mk15 evi
fleet zealot
i was wondering where you got the points but then just realized you ditched reva...
left one has a free point for until death but yea, zealot isn't even in a good spot to go hybrid
vestal pine
left one has a free point for until death but yea, zealot isn't even in a good s...
this was my "pure" ranged build
fleet zealot
honestly
vestal pine
backstabber and scourage for a lacerate knife
fleet zealot
idk what i was thinking taking the 0 stam damage one
yea i was purposefully chasing ranged talents as well
vestal pine
wasnt to keen on getting the reload talent
since you need to play a lot more on your melee
fleet zealot
why tf did i take desperation on that tree
vestal pine
idk
vestal pine
the build above works, braced auto can push hordes better than some weapon
unborn bridge
i'm feeling right now other than monstrosities zealot is wild fighting in melee all the time. i think i prefer the fine imperium rifles, frustrated they're not there for zealot. i do like ez mode when chorus goes well though
fleet zealot
and that's the closest you can come up with,
fleet zealot
knowing your weapon is a big thing
make sure you know when to heavy vs light vs push attack
when your weapon special is applicable and what it does
vestal pine
braced is like the only reason i ever crafted a "ranged" zealot build
fotf doesnt even work good on it you still take fuckton of ammo killing crushers and better off just uncanny knifing
fleet zealot
in general, if your weapon isn't brain dead straight forward, you want to know your combo for horde clearing sweeps, and one combo for single target
my brauto is for specials/elites
unborn bridge
i'm running a 209 91/650 lasgun right now
fleet zealot
chaxe is for crushers
fleet zealot
i'm running a 209 91/650 lasgun right now
neither of those numbers say anything
your name is red now you can post screenshot
unborn bridge
oh
fleet zealot
what brand/type is it
i think zealot on has infantry las but that family has 3 variants
unborn bridge
yep
unborn bridge
100% highest settings
tropic pelican
just the name of the gun should be fine
unborn bridge
only requires about 30-50mb bandwidth
vestal pine
chromebook darktiding
how did yours didnt catch on fire
tropic pelican
the power of the weapon doesnt indicate how good the stats/perks/blessings are
unborn bridge
i'm not paying for internet here so works out
fleet zealot
someone was bitchin in general that they were laggin in game, but they admitted they were playing on GFN and then using their phone to connect to their pc to play while at work
unborn bridge
let me see how to screenshot on chromebook
fleet zealot
GFN is all network iirc
vestal pine
let me see how to screenshot on chromebook
just read the lasgun's name
royal vortex
someone was bitchin in general that they were laggin in game, but they admitted ...
amazing
vestal pine
it should say something like Kantrael mk IV infantry lasgun
fleet zealot
imagine having the knowledge to set up your phone to play darktide, but at the same time lacking the knowledge that having your game streamed to a different device twice would cause utmost lag
neat drum
i'm running a 209 91/650 lasgun right now
The gear rating itself says nothing, just fyi
unborn bridge
okay i got it. control+ shift+ window panels+alternative function key
one moment let me load up
fleet zealot
anyways, if you really want las weapons, imo the las pistols are better for zealot
faster, easier, actual sights
unborn bridge
don't harp to harshly it's all i got
vestal pine
anyways, if you really want las weapons, imo the las pistols are better for zeal...
i wish mk12 oneshot on the head
fleet zealot
i forgot which pistol is the current best
neat drum
shredder
tropic pelican
zarona
vestal pine
jeez its sight pic is horrible
fleet zealot
but any of them will do better than an infantry las besides like, the mkia
i love bullets, i can't vibe with lasguns
i keep triyng
doesn't work out
vestal pine
but any of them will do better than an infantry las besides like, the mkia
i like lasguns
too bad bullets are the only thing that fills me with joy
mack mk4 i have
fleet zealot
i have 3 different autoguns i'd use before i go to las weapons 😭
vestal pine
for funnies
vestal pine
i have 3 different autoguns i'd use before i go to las weapons 😭
if you think graia IAG is better than lasguns
fleet zealot
if you think graia IAG is better than lasguns
no?
mk3 HH, columbus IAG, and agri brauto (on zealot)
vestal pine
and heres my mk2 pistol
vestal pine
mk3 HH, columbus IAG, and agri brauto (on zealot)
eh fair point
fleet zealot
mk7hh on that list for vet
oh yea pistols get dum dum
which stacks great with anoint in blood
unborn bridge
vestal pine
better than any recon
trying to see what i can do with mk12
fleet zealot
alright lets go down this
vestal pine
also that is.... bad
but least it'd serve you well while you go for lvl 30
just get to lvl 30
unborn bridge
ok
fleet zealot
firstly, mk12 is right now the worst variant for infantry las guns, it simply can't hit the BPs it needs to compensate for it's slow RoF. but that's fine till 30, i do recomnend you try the mkia and mk4 variants if you haven't already
fleet zealot
ok
secodnly, i do recomnend trying las pistols they have a better blessing pool for zealot
vestal pine
firstly, mk12 is right now the worst variant for infantry las guns, it simply ca...
wasnt it used to be great
then again it wasnt buffed
fleet zealot
wasnt it used to be great
yep it was the king
vestal pine
compared to others
fleet zealot
hit every oneshot BP you needed
vestal pine
and now it does similar DPS, but fires the worst
unborn bridge
i was really aiming for an autogun
i wanted a torrent one that stuns on close range kill
tropic pelican
stuns?
vestal pine
is there any gun that hits oneshot BP on everything
no revolvers dont count they suck ass
unborn bridge
boltgun?
fleet zealot
i was really aiming for an autogun
burst fire, mk3 headhunter autogun, classic full auto columbus autogun, for rambo/counterstrike style agri braced autogun
unborn bridge
all these new player delusions
vestal pine
TB is only like
fleet zealot
it doesn't wrok on half the hrode enemies (the more infected looking one)
vestal pine
marginally useful on pruga staff
tropic pelican
but if you're in close range, most situations you would probably want to switch to melee
fleet zealot
and guns will suppress the rest of the enemies as is, you don't need to waste a blessing slot to improve a normal function
get damage
more damage
more power
spare talon
marginally useful on pruga staff
id say this is the least useful weapon its on
fleet zealot
that's the guide to blessings
unborn bridge
i see. usually i'm standing a little behind and at an angle to an ogryn
fleet zealot
POWER and damage
spare talon
literally any tick of it will stagger enemies anyway
unborn bridge
that's optimal for zealot range weaponry
spare talon
theyre too busy being staggered for supression to actually do anything
vestal pine
literally any tick of it will stagger enemies anyway
thats also true but kinda helps on other sides tbh
fleet zealot
that's optimal for zealot range weaponry
zealot should be infront or next to ogryn
vestal pine
not like runngun and flurry has much value either...
tropic pelican
zealot frontlines
fleet zealot
not like runngun and flurry has much value either...
flurry is nice if you do short bursts for a few times
left iron
TB is worthless on purgatus, there are far more useful things to have on it
fleet zealot
then you can get a full charge off quick
unborn bridge
coherency is important i haven't found a way to surivve without it
vestal pine
TB is worthless on purgatus, there are far more useful things to have on it
thers only like 3 blessings outside of nexus
tropic pelican
i'm usually making breathing room for vets and psykers if i'm not going out to hunt gunners
fleet zealot
coherency is important i haven't found a way to surivve without it
killing and using your talents
spare talon
thats twice today that ive been called to do a destiny raid or mission and i had to close darktide to do it both times
spare talon
killing and using your talents
and just being good enough to avoid damage in the first place 
fleet zealot
that too
unborn bridge
is shredder pistol any good high level? it spams well in low level
fleet zealot
you need to work on avoiding and mitigating damage
fleet zealot
is shredder pistol any good high level? it spams well in low level
got nerfed the same patch as boltgun did
vestal pine
should i dump this on zealot or wait for itemization
fleet zealot
hasn't really recovered
tropic pelican
the Enemies Within, Enemies Without talent lets you regen toughness whenever you are near 3 or more enemies, and Swift Recovery lets you regen toughness whenever dodging an attack
including bullets
fleet zealot
better to go CIAG or agribrauto
left iron
thers only like 3 blessings outside of nexus
Im aware, i have played psyker since 2022
spare talon
the Enemies Within, Enemies Without talent lets you regen toughness whenever you...
second wind is its name
tropic pelican
both are at the top of zealot talent trees, on the left and right side
vestal pine
the Enemies Within, Enemies Without talent lets you regen toughness whenever you...
i really need to make a build that utilizes this
fleet zealot
idk how the controls are if you are chromebooking through GFN
tropic pelican
oh, swift is something else?
fleet zealot
☠️
tropic pelican
my bad
spare talon
idk how the controls are if you are chromebooking through GFN
i played from january to december of 23 exclusively on geforce now
fleet zealot
i played from january to december of 23 exclusively on geforce now
b ut on a chromebook?
unborn bridge
it's standard pc keybind
fleet zealot
you got a mouse plugged in right?
unborn bridge
it's a acer chromebook 8gb memory
spare talon
b ut on a chromebook?
hardware doesnt matter, only internet connection
unborn bridge
i'll get a gamging laptop later this is temporary
fleet zealot
i need to go to sleep
unborn bridge
yes
fleet zealot
and rest easy
unborn bridge
i have a logi m550
fleet zealot
ok thank the emperor
unborn bridge
office mouse
vestal pine
and rest easy
i know some guys play darktide on a computer with a gamepad
unborn bridge
oh you thought i was touch screening or touchpadding
aaaahhhh
can connect bluetooth like a xbox controller or ps5 controller too
neat drum
you got a mouse plugged in right?
This was wild to ask lmao
tropic pelican
real ones play with the Nintendo™️ Power Glove
neat drum
TouchPad gaming goes hard
vestal pine
this fucking feels wierd
spare talon
real ones play with the Nintendo™️ Power Glove
you mean the donkey kongas
fleet zealot
This was wild to ask lmao
i'm worried
unborn bridge
well geforcenow has come a long way since i first saw it a couple years ago
tropic pelican
hook up the wiimote and a lit candle
unborn bridge
this machine i connected on right now for example ryzen 16core with 4080rtx
vestal pine
how the fuck do people aim with a gamepad
unborn bridge
but you lose some performance because it has to stream it to your chromebook
dim tapir
They don't
median steeple
use the atari walkman attachment
dim tapir
The only kind of game I'd stream to a device to play would turn based or something
Xcom, slay the spire, that kind of shit
fleet zealot
does darktide have aim assist
Yes but it's
rough
darktide is def a game where gyro controls would help a ton but barely any console players besides high ranked ones have that
the issue is with the aim assist, have it too weak and you might be missing, have it too strong and you'll lock onto trash instead of the bomber in the distance
dim tapir
Consoles just need to have more available KB&M options tbh
unborn bridge
there's something like input lag at times no matter highest or lowest graphic setting
with cloud streaming game platforms
but like i said until i get a real rig going, it's waaay better than used laptop with hardware lag
for bandwidth sometimes i go to public library and play
if this crazy temp housing place i'm living in gets jammed up by the residents
vestal pine
anyone wanna play with a
unborn bridge
but when GFN says it requires 15mb it means 40mb at peak
vestal pine
pad
unborn bridge
when i cranked up the max mb rate suddenly lags and stutters gone
it comes with a monitoring panel popup too
ctrl+g to bring up settings during live game
ctrl+n for network statistics
toggle
fleet zealot
Consoles just need to have more available KB&M options tbh
gyro controls can basically shorten the aiming gap
unborn bridge
i could wait 6 months until i get a real rig, or i can play with some slight issues on GFN. so i play on GFN
dim tapir
They shorten the gap, don't really close it
fleet zealot
then it becomes buttons/binds esp with darktide having a ton of things to press
dim tapir
The only thing that actually does is aim assist, and even that is give and take
fleet zealot
They shorten the gap, don't really close it
flick stick and gyro
vestal pine
how do people play on this garbo
fleet zealot
it does close the gap but very few console players will go that far, at that point you are investing a pcs worth of money
to own people who are playing on a normal controller
dim tapir
I gamed for a long time on console with controller only, and was pretty good with my aim. After moving to PC and mouse years ago, I'm incomparible better in anything besides games with super aggressive aim assist
tropic pelican
what about those short sticks and fast triggers on elite controllers
the short sticks are basically just extra shoulder buttons
dim tapir
Like the master chief collection where on controller it was honestly harder to miss than to hit your shots, until you got out of the range of the assist
tropic pelican
you bind them to other controller buttons so they're easier to reach
dim tapir
The one thing i miss from controller is a proper analog stick for movement
fleet zealot
some shooter pros are using controllers especially with apex
unborn bridge
analog is actually optical mechanical tho
these days on a controller
same as mouse tech prioer to removal of the mouse ball
dim tapir
The benefit stays the same regardless, it allows you to easily move in 360 degree and at various speeds
fleet zealot
the gap can get removed but it requires an investment.
dim tapir
keyboard and mouse essentially has 8 directions without mouse movement, and minimal speed control
unborn bridge
well at the high end of games you need to know your input and output devices pretty well
fleet zealot
that is true however that aim assist is helping a ton
unborn bridge
split second timings making difference
dim tapir
The ideal setup is a keypad and mouse, with a good stick on said keypad
I CBA to pay for a good one though, and the bad ones the stick is just arrow keys, basically
faint prairie
Are new guns yet
unborn bridge
i saw plasma pistol on that list - IG vet?
median steeple
what list?
unborn bridge
that weapon was so infuriating in dawn of war when the space marine hero upgraded to it
it's like one shot one squad member down in your tac squad
i digress
median steeple
spare talon
median steeple
that burster never gave up and fulfilled his dream
unborn bridge
graphics like unreal nice
vestal pine
that is true however that aim assist is helping a ton
im trying to play one and i feel lik i forgot how to run
spare talon
also new schizo update dropped
tropic pelican
i've been noticing this as well
median steeple
lay off the stims
tropic pelican
i get like 3-4 wooshes but there's nothing around me
unborn bridge
running a few more missions. good night
fleet zealot
also new schizo update dropped
Sheesh
spare talon
i dont understand i how i can still do this
im literally running all +3 stam curios
all have stam regen and sprint efficiency
median steeple
just built different
spare talon
https://tenor.com/view/there-it-is-well-there-it-is-gif-8569483
the thing is
literally any mistake is instant death
dense field
Stamina is god stat
fleet zealot
Stamina is god stat
Nyoo
Like i can’t imagien going anything more than a single plus 3
spare talon
i dont think id do nearly as well if i wasnt using this tho
dense field
the thing is
literally any mistake is instant death
That's just like CIVI every game
fleet zealot
Autism king
spare talon
@fleet zealot the skill tree i use with this is gonna have you asking questions
its not terrible
just questionable in places
fleet zealot
<@301217938306760704> the skill tree i use with this is gonna have you asking qu...
Too bad
Im eepying
And keeping my mind pure
spare talon
you wanna know what sucks
i kinda wanna use momentum instead
but i am 1 point short
and everything above is basically required
i wanna use momentum for the sprint speed and 40% more damage
since riposte already covers the crit boost to kickstart scourge
vestal pine
im literally running all +3 stam curios
all have stam regen and sprint efficienc...
sounds fun
vestal pine
since riposte already covers the crit boost to kickstart scourge
tiem to say my signature-
spare talon
and allows me to have a higher total amount of crit chance
on top of not having a DOA blessing
hmmmmmmmmmmm
i could drop the 10% crit chance
and grab sustained fire
fleet zealot
I didnt expect this downside from the memory issues
spare talon
cuz 25% is nothing to scoff at
spare talon
I didnt expect this downside from the memory issues
what memory issues
vestal pine
anyone play with pad
spare talon
ok yea sustained assault def the way to go
spare talon
its allowing me to one shot things i couldnt before
which i mean yeah ofc it is but i just never actually thought about that
zinc talon
YER MUVVIR COLLS ME CUZIN HOTKRI
ND YER SIS REFYUZIS TA COLL ME CUZIN
ONLY COLLS ME DADDY
median steeple
left iron
I opened reddit after a long while, read a post about Deimos, and in the comments, people are saying superiority is better than slaughterer 
spare talon
I opened reddit after a long while, read a post about Deimos, and in the comment...
they did give it a glow up but not THAT big of a glowup
but i would argue that it certainly is one of the better ones on deimos tbh since the stacks fall off 1 by 1
actually i take that back considering just how stacked the blessing pool is
left iron
I only remember the 5% on elite kill version, and havent rolled a new force sword in ages, is it still 5?
Also uncanny
vestal pine
would be neat if it was on other weapons
spare talon
useless on low difficulties but if youre an auric gamer this likely has the same uptime as slaughterer
but like
why wouldnt you take slaughterer
spare talon
great
vestal pine
least it doesnt require anything to be done to get that bonus
left iron
Unstable is great but its better on Illisi
vestal pine
wait so its 100%?
spare talon
thats how i remember it when i mained psyker
left iron
Yah, it works like warp nexus pretty much
vestal pine
Yah, it works like warp nexus pretty much
it says up to 20% power scaling with peril
so does it mean it gives 100%?
left iron
Oh damn, they really upped the percentage
left iron
It used to be 5%