but also its destiny 2
#zealot-class
maiden path
also
50 DOLLAR DLC
FUCKING INSANE
doesnt it cost like 300 bucks to buy every dlc
fucking insane
frosty herald
they made shadowkeep beyond the light and witch queen free for a time
but now everyone wants them perma free
misty tide
😔
fluid fulcrum
Tfw used to have ferrets 
median steeple
they made shadowkeep beyond the light and witch queen free for a time
Shadow keep and Beyond light have been permanently free for a couple weeks now
fluid fulcrum
I miss my little guys a ton
median steeple
I do think witch queen should be free forever
pale spindle
OH NO, DESTINY IS GIVING OUT THE FREE SAMPLES
pale spindle
WE ALL GONNA BE ADDICTS SOON ENOUGH
frosty herald
FREE?????
Shieeeeeeee
No no
I will not let myself play destiny 2 until they return vaulted content
pale spindle
Tbh I don't think Destiny is a safe product to consume period
fleet zealot
Fuck destiny 2
median steeple
the only thing I want them to return is red war and forsaken
everything else can rot
fleet zealot
i want a shooter game where i can glide around even better than solar warlock
that's it
MMO shooters ARE TRASH
pale spindle
Fuck destiny 2
fleet zealot
GET HELP
pale spindle
Someone said it
frosty herald
Destiny 2 has fun gameplay
fleet zealot
this map is making we wanna end it all
frosty herald
But everything around it SUCKS
fleet zealot
literally 15 minutes of cbt cause the mobs just don't die instantly they stay around as ghosts for 5 seconds except now i can't knock em back
maiden path
Shadow keep and Beyond light have been permanently free for a couple weeks now
are they perm free to keep?
pale spindle
I have never seen a game where people, simultaneously, make entire catalogs of content of how shit, predatory, unfair, boring, cringe, ect.... Destiny 2 is. But at the same time have entire recordings of themselves doing raids ☠️
maiden path
theres a difference.......
maiden path
I have never seen a game where people, simultaneously, make entire catalogs of c...
game fills a niche that people really like
too bad the ggame sucks so hard as well
same with for honor, tekken, battlefield, cod
pale spindle
game fills a niche that people really like
A niche that is being in an abusive relationship? 💀
median steeple
are they perm free to keep?
yes
median steeple
A niche that is being in an abusive relationship? 💀
you say that when we are playing a fatshark game
maiden path
i wanna play destiny 2 but ik i'll eventually spend like 100 bucks on it
but i do want something to spend my time doing
median steeple
Witch queen goes on sale like every other week lowest I saw was like 10$
pale spindle
you say that when we are playing a fatshark game
Nah it's just shit content 😎
median steeple
crazy value for the things it did
maiden path
still have this saved
i like how the camera is actually tied to the head
not the player
pale spindle
Darktide content on social media is literally just memes about the songs, VTUBERS doing first time plathrus, and then how shit the game was at launch
maiden path
I NEED THE SOUJA BOY EMOTE
frosty herald
Need space marine 2
maiden path
gaay
frosty herald
Btw
Space marine 2 will most likely take place during magnus's mission to stop vashtorr in the pariah system
Which is why thousand sons might be in the campaign
median steeple
well we do know that it takes place during the biggest nid invasion in galaxies history
they should make vashtorr the 5th chaos god fr
maiden path
m bison is the horse
frosty herald
north sedge
titus writing in his mlp diary and dating the entry
maiden path
titus writing in his mlp diary and dating the entry
he does it in fun gel pens
frosty herald
It wouldnt surprise me if GW uses the pariah nexus war as a promotional tool for sm2
median steeple
I HATE THE INQUISITION I HATE HTE INQUISITION
frosty herald
Or vise versa
north sedge
he does it in fun gel pens
different color for every day
maiden path
the diary isnt like sized up or anything so its just marine sized titus using tiny gel pins
pens
'todaey i met robot guilliman'
':)'
frosty herald
Titus was completely innocent
frosty herald
And got a primaris treatement to save his life after a failed mission
frosty herald
With the bellisarian furnace saving his life
median steeple
I love the new ultramarines and what robot gorillaman did to them
maiden path
'the big mean inquistion man tried 2 murdr me... i went 2 black shield for help.. now armor all painted black.. very cool like shadow the hedgehog! much love and many xenos 2 kill love titus <3'
titus got that sonic the hedgehog autism
i can see it in his eyes
frosty herald
Bro was removed from the ultramarine history because they treated him like shit
And btw
All of these events are 40k canon
Both games
maiden path
if u get to close to titus you just hear this
really muffled
his helmet just plays 'all of me' 24/7
maiden path
demetrion titus what is that RACKET coming from your helmet
'sir! disturbed! inside the fire! sir!'
median steeple
Is demetrion titus
better than your average custodes name
frosty herald
So yeah titus fucked up against nids in the 4th tyranid war at the start of 10th edition
And is now properly back in sm2 during a time we dont know yet
But most likely magnus's war at pariah
maiden path
the codex astertes does not say anything about disturbed leandros.. you'd be best to realise that
median steeple
Leandros is fucking seething after roboute came back
median steeple
I hope leandros is a traitor marine
frosty herald
Titus is probs so pissed at mising roboutte's return it would make khorne smile
maiden path
titus is listening to a FUCKING ton of linkin park
median steeple
bro if your father was in a coma for almost 10k years I would also be pissed at missing it
frosty herald
Sm2's story will be so juicy
maiden path
imagine being a guardsman and a fucking fabled space marine walks by you and you can just hear three days grace really muffled by his helmet
but loud enough that you can tell its three days grace
wait
median steeple
imagine being a guardsman and a fucking fabled space marine walks by you and you...
must have been a raven guard
frosty herald
A random guardsman seeing titus has the same energy as admiral spire coming out of the warp 300 years later
maiden path
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/967102699789221918/1250085002557784094/RD...
monster hunter
fleet zealot
imagine being a guardsman and a fucking fabled space marine walks by you and you...
NO STOP THIS we aren't getting another space marine song meme i haven't recovered from the "i'm still standing meme' that was sappemd inthis dsicor
frosty herald
Titus is actualy dominican with helmet speakers
maiden path
ok fixed it up a bit
frosty herald
Praying you can muffle it
maiden path
yea the editng shit i use cant even add effects to it
just make it louder and quiter
i need an adobe editor
and photoshop
but bothj of those are like fucking 50gbs
median steeple
bro HOW
maiden path
how what.......
ok its like 1gb
but the shitty adobe software is like 15gbs
once i get an external ssd
i can put my games on that
and keep software on my main drive....
random adder
cyberpsychosis who ?
frosty herald
A single princeps commanding an imperator titan
median steeple
runic rune
Buy for blessing?
north sedge
it is the only good blessing for it
fluid fulcrum
Yeah grab that blessing for sure
vestal pine
its that + overpressure usually for direct damage stream
some use like inspiring barage to stay alive
north sedge
overpressure does basically nothing
vestal pine
overpressure does basically nothing
blaze away gets 3~40%, overpressure gets like 12.5%
its not really much but better than nothing if you go for damage
north sedge
all the dmg is from the DoT, which overpressure does not affect
vestal pine
btoh are power so blaze away doesnt affect dot as well p sure?
using it to direct kill low health targets
north sedge
overpressure is specifically coded as ranged power and only applies to direct dmg, which is basically nothing
vestal pine
what else would you put on? showstopper?
vestal pine
then overpressure cause i can direct kill more :3
too bad fan the flame kinda works jank ways
brazen bridge
anyone down for just a flesh wound run?
fleet zealot
btoh are power so blaze away doesnt affect dot as well p sure?
using it to direc...
OP is bugged
and no, you won't directo kill more iwth like what
2-3 more damage
ferret reset
grizzled aspen
Does an ally's stun grenades count for trying to get the shocking stuff penance?
Nevermind, seems they do.
grand surge
Beautiful titan
fleet zealot
change both perks
vestal pine
and no, you won't directo kill more iwth like what
kills like 0.5 early
fleet zealot
the 2nd blessing fundementally doesn't change anything
vestal pine
its afull auto gun even if the main gimmick is debuff
fleet zealot
you can believe what you want
vestal pine
you can believe what you want
well whatbelse would you put on
fleet zealot
well whatbelse would you put on
you keep the slot free for the time OP gets fixed
vestal pine
then op it is
vestal pine
fan the flame memes
fleet zealot
ftf hits no stagger BPs
or well, meaningfully, you aren't going to be puffing esp if your main blessing is BA
fleet zealot
double puffing no less if they aren't on fire yet
wdym throws you off
it's just reload speed
vestal pine
it's just reload speed
used to reloadcancel with normal ones
visual stream
when did insect glaive get good in iceborne
It was good without Iceborne
-someone who never played Iceborne
I hope they give a bunch of cool weapon-specific mechanics/interactions like the sword blocking that monster bite in the trailer for Wilds
lethal lance
Buy for blessing?
ALWAYS BUY FOR BLESSING
merry flume
and one that makes the kinsect do much more damage + lowered powder cooldown
visual stream
Now I'm sad I didn't play Iceborne
vestal pine
when did insect glaive get good in iceborne
friend begs me to play monster hunter world and im new to the franchise
north sedge
iceborne is great
vestal pine
idk what to use
merry flume
idk what to use
that's the best part of monster hunter
vestal pine
bow it is
visual stream
What traditional playstyle do you like in games
north sedge
just go to the training area and mess with the weapons, see what feels good
merry flume
damn chat is super laggy for me right now, half my messages won't even go through
visual stream
I thought it was me wtf
vestal pine
What traditional playstyle do you like in games
6 months ago i started my first ever soulslike lies of p
but i like fast weapons there
not big hitting slow ones
north sedge
the training area lets you try out any weapon, just go play around in there
vestal pine
i did
merry flume
go watch some old ass monster hunter weapon guide vids. arrekz gaming has a few in depth ones
vestal pine
vestal pine
go watch some old ass monster hunter weapon guide vids. arrekz gaming has a few ...
i just dont get the combo rn bow seems fun
lapis cypress
Which one of these is better? Gotta be the 530 still right?
merry flume
north sedge
neither are great really, missing thrust is a big deal
visual stream
Which one of these is better? Gotta be the 530 still right?
no thrust on both of them hurts a lot. I would say the 541 because better penetration
If you are a mobility freak like me, you might really like the insect glaive
placid fiber
Discord is being stupid lol
vestal pine
tbh i wanna try like skullcrusher and thunderous on a crusis one day
visual stream
If you have the plasteel and patience, roll more and get a thrust blessing
lapis cypress
The 262 light attack doesnt actually do the same damage as a 262 heavy attack does it, that seems broken
vestal pine
If you are a mobility freak like me, you might really like the insect glaive
i like its premise, but i dont get the combos
north sedge
you can make skullcrusher work a bit on ironhelm but on crucis, pretty bad
vestal pine
The 262 light attack doesnt actually do the same damage as a 262 heavy attack do...
probably does same on unarmored
yknow armor pen
visual stream
In terms of aerials or on the ground?
north sedge
same with thunderous for both
vestal pine
you can make skullcrusher work a bit on ironhelm but on crucis, pretty bad
huh
generally i prefer ironhelm cause the damn thing just works
i assumed crusis would be better cuz heavy combo
north sedge
no, you can stack skullcrusher with the special cleave on ironhelm
visual stream
Ironhelm's weird combo is actually very helpful if you know how to utilize it
vestal pine
twice???????
north sedge
on crucis not so much, you just want raw power
placid fiber
on crucis not so much, you just want raw power
vestal pine
i cant use heavy 3 good cause it throws me off
placid fiber
I just block cancel
north sedge
i prefer crucis
vestal pine
well the thing sucked with thrust 4 and headtaker 4 so i assumed im better off with skullcrusher and thunderous
placid fiber
I like the crucis more, but, the cleave on the ironhelm is satisfying
north sedge
god no
vestal pine
game refuses to give me good catachan after this
spiral anvil
Ironhelm heavy 3 is nice when fighting gunners/shotgunners
north sedge
what about shit and piss
placid fiber
what about shit and piss
Add some more piss and yeah, it'll be perfect
vestal pine
piss and piss
placid fiber
visual stream
i cant use heavy 3 good cause it throws me off
Ya get used to it and then it becomes a boon B)
maiden path
"zealot doesnt have that much melee variation"
no one has ever said that
vestal pine
i did
placid fiber
"zealot doesnt have that much melee variation"
pfft, that's like saying vets have no variation on ranged
maiden path
no u said it in the idea that someone else said it and you are countering there point by showing zealot has alot of melees
dont try these mind games with me pal
placid fiber
running out of options here
Then use the achlys caxe lol
vestal pine
already am
i tried to convey i was complaining about zealot melee selection while having like 15 builds about him
placid fiber
Use the Rashad like it used to be, then
vestal pine
i am
placid fiber
No you aren't
maiden path
placid fiber
You can't, is more accurate
vestal pine
No you aren't
martyr go brrrrt
placid fiber
martyr go brrrrt
It used to prioritize body shots over headshots
massively
You had to aim at the sky to hit heads lol
drowsy steppe
I like the crucis more, but, the cleave on the ironhelm is satisfying
Real and true
visual stream
seeing more and more ironhelm lovers in the chat over time inspires me
Rest in piss pre buff helm
obsidian prairie
seeing more and more ironhelm lovers in the chat over time inspires me
I got a neat one recently
fleet zealot
I heard the 7 likes wrath more
obsidian prairie
Haven’t found a swarm with enough density to do true funnies
vestal pine
godroll
fleet zealot
Cause vs denser bruisers/melee elites you can’t get sweep up without alreayd having it up or changing your combo
vestal pine
I heard the 7 likes wrath more
i think it usually likes wrath over savage cause it can get hairy trying to cleave flaks
fleet zealot
Yee
vestal pine
The carapace slot is slight sad but other than that yeah it's great <:thumbsup_o...
carapace is good imho
lets me actually kill crushers in 1hit
annnd thats about it
visual stream
Without fury?
fleet zealot
1hit crushers? 
visual stream
Show me
vestal pine
slamma on the head and he drop ded
fleet zealot
Literally post it
visual stream
I never tried every buff with cara perk
vestal pine
need to get in a game sorry
fleet zealot
Even crucis doesn’t hit that
visual stream
Full martyr or momentum stacks wirh every damage buff in the tree is a... maybe
vestal pine
laaater
might be cause i hit head and dualist activates
im just like "it works for me" and never cared
fleet zealot
Crucis can’t hit the crusher 1hit bp without fotf or temp buff stackingin damn idk what you doing
vestal pine
might be actually dualist then
fleet zealot
Thammers have always been 2shotting crushers
vestal pine
i did experiment with crusis and only noticed its damage agsint crusher is fucked
drowsy steppe
yes because its carapace
north sedge
not always, wasnt until crusher hp was buffed that it couldnt do it
fleet zealot
i did experiment with crusis and only noticed its damage agsint crusher is fucke...
It’s the same damage ADMs
vestal pine
desperation +20, sustained assault +25%, 5 stack marty +40%, thrust 4 60%, possibly backstabber with 20%
possibly slaughterer for +40% but dont count on it
fleet zealot
Ironhelm just has a damage penalty on activated swings of like 25 to 10% depending
On what swing
vestal pine
i almost use heavy 1/2 p sure
fleet zealot
U aint using h2 unless you miss h1
visual stream
not always, wasnt until crusher hp was buffed that it couldnt do it
Very brief period of time after tree patch where helm was literally better than crucis in every single way (other than monstrosity dmg obvi), then they buffed elites health 
vestal pine
anyhoo, i do remember there are lotta crusher 2shots
and sometimes i just oneshot them
might be actually dualist activating and giving me wp bonus
i use marty so fotf gets sparse
fleet zealot
anyhoo, i do remember there are lotta crusher 2shots
and sometimes i just onesho...
Probably cause ingame they’ve been chipped and the other classes can give damage buffs aswell
visual stream
Oh yeah crusher 2 shots is what you want
vestal pine
and im fine with it
2shot isnt really preferred here in korea cuz the afterdelay, we know we can cancel the delay with sprinting but still
not that it matters much cause 1shot is fucking hard
obsidian prairie
A bit goofy
vestal pine
why flak tho
drowsy steppe
nice
vestal pine
also nice axe
obsidian prairie
why flak tho
Too poor to fix it
vestal pine
a h
drowsy steppe
actually
with how piss easy it is to kill bosses
and how other zealot melee's can reach strikedown damage thats nearly on par with thammer
vestal pine
and how other zealot melee's can reach strikedown damage thats nearly on par wit...
eviserator moment
drowsy steppe
not having Unyielding isnt too bad
vestal pine
but you cant go for that sweet dh oneshot
obsidian prairie
I want Unyielding in place of flak right?
visual stream
why flak tho
Helps mauler one shots, slightly easier flak ragers, better bruiser killing
vestal pine
hammer sucks against rager packs and i just braced auto them
visual stream
I want Unyielding in place of flak right?
I run without unyielding and still kill bosses quick, a hammer without unyielding still kills a boss way faster than nearly every melee weapon
drowsy steppe
dh oneshot requires you to use stealth with the node that adds another 50% damage increase
also the backstab hitbox is wonky on a dh
obsidian prairie
Then what do I replace flak with
visual stream
Nothing, flak is chilling unless your preference is boss damage
drowsy steppe
unyielding is usually the #1 perk you want for a thammer because its the boss killer weapon
its either that or flak/elites
unyielding and flak/elites is the best combo to have
you wont 1 shot crushers anymore with the thammer, even with 25% carapace
visual stream
I do an H3 fury fully thrusted on a plogryn and still obliterate the health bar, I run elites in place of unyielding for better mauler BPs and H3 uncharged elite kills but it's preferential
Definitely still value in unyielding
north sedge
unyielding is making big number bigger, basically
hammer has big unyielding dmg multi on special
fleet zealot
but what do they get swapped out for
Dum dum in
Perk depending on what you are using for
Special killing? Flak, which is also the best all around option
I love ferrets that are being held like they owe money
ornate bone
long boi
open pollen
Dude's holding it like he's the true king of England, and that's Excalibur.
polar nexus
Feralibur
zealous basin
guys i got a job interview with LAIKA
finally a light in the tunnel of flip degen arc
maiden path
playing 8 hours of magic the gathering
then flicking my thug till it stink nasty style
#hellyea
zealous basin
nice
patent patrol
Last thing a bomber sees
Bombers or snipers.
Just yeet that shit
Y'know idk if it's just me but I barely ever use those throwing daggers/knives/whatever they are.
I only really use em for that one guy that's way out of range being a nuisance to the team
aka bombers and snipers.
rigid trellis
I use them too much because I can't aim them
patent patrol
I use them too much because I can't aim them <:Sitgryn:1016269420638765107>
TRUE.
rigid trellis
perks of being a controller player
patent patrol
I'm on PC and I struggle to aim em
I aim at the head but apparently it throws at an arch
and it's just
okay.
on top of that sometimes it throws off-center
idk.
rigid trellis
if there's an enemy further than 30m from me I don't even bother trying to hit them
it aint happening
fleet zealot
Yea i cant imaging console players using throwing knife well
Unless you are a cracked gyro aiming apex pro
rigid trellis
having to take your thumb off the left stick to throw them is the kicker
unless you want to dislocate your fingers
I only use them because I want to have the bolter for mag dumping mixed hordes and bosses but that thing is horrible for sniping specialists and elites
at least for me
inner cargo
@sterile basalt you were right about rashad martyrdom
Shit's much less restricting with the axe
vestal pine
marty rashad benefits from like carapace and maniac imho
sterile stone
Unless you are a cracked gyro aiming apex pro
maiden path
yall see da crib
fleet fractal
@maiden path I like your name and I like the fact that you post cat pics
fleet fractal
https://tenor.com/view/sister-mei-cat-rabbit-hop-rabbit-like-cat-gif-88442138454...
A kangaroo
Kataroo
Bunny cat
merry flume
😭 2008 was 16 years ago
patent patrol
Quick question. What blessings are best for the MKXII And MKIV Chainaxes? I know both are different so.
rigid ginkgo
Quick question. What blessings are best for the MKXII And MKIV Chainaxes? I know...
Headtaker is best on both. Pair it with slaughterer or Thrust on XII and Thunderous on IV. You can alternatively run Bloodletter + Thunderous on the IV.
most people run Headtaker + Slaughterer but I think slaughterer is way overrated on it
rigid ginkgo
because bloodletter triggers thunderous
instant 40% brittleness on anything you hit with special
left iron
And you're saying its better than 40% more damage, cleave and stagger from slaughterer, and whatever the max was from headtaker to the exact same things?
rigid ginkgo
It's personal preference. Headtaker is just good for everything. Bloodletter + Thunderous is just a fun alternative combo
Slaughterer doesn't make a huge difference most of the time
left iron
Neither does thunderous against most things. Afaik the ADMs arent absolute garbage on chaxe, so it'll only do SOMETHING against crushers
sterile basalt
because bloodletter triggers thunderous
It’s due to thunderous being bugged
Which they may or may not fix in the future
rigid ginkgo
brittleness also helps with unyielding damage and affects a group of armor when you push.
left iron
@ripe quest Gib chaxe unyielding ADM 
rigid ginkgo
I'm just partial to thunderous because I see so many auric players who somehow can't handle armor on their own and it makes them actually useful if I just push a group of crushers 4 times before killing
left iron
I dont value teamwide armor pen very highly. I dont want to rely on my team for anything, and i will always assume everyone has at least one thing that can deal with cara
ripe quest
<@239404785453760512> Gib chaxe unyielding ADM <a:cat_stare:964151226423984138>
The lights are 1.5 and the heavies are 1.25 iirc
I'll double check though
vestal pine
because bloodletter triggers thunderous
was patched sorry
left iron
So brittleness does not do much for chaxe against unyielding?
vestal pine
dot effects no longer net you "hits from your weapon"
from what i remember
liked that before but its now wack...
nvm
this game is wack it said it was patched in the updates before and it was for a while
it works
ripe quest
<@239404785453760512> Gib chaxe unyielding ADM <a:cat_stare:964151226423984138>
1.5 for lights and light revs, 1.0 for base heavies, 1.5 for revved heavies (including Mk XII's heavies).
ripe quest
So brittleness does not do much for chaxe against unyielding?
Brittle on Chaxe is only a damage boost vs. Headtaker if you're fighting Carapace.
left iron
Thank you code man 
rigid ginkgo
was patched sorry
was patched for everything BUT bloodletter. The patch affected how things from different sources interact. Since thunderous and bloodletter are both blessings on the same weapon they still interact
left iron
You get to live another day
ripe quest
I am immortal until Darktide servers shut down
vestal pine
was patched for everything BUT bloodletter. The patch affected how things from d...
damn
might go use it then
rigid ginkgo
it's still hard to trade it off for headtaker though
vestal pine
wanted to have a thunderous build on zealot at one point
haha marty go boom
(i use slaughterer)
ivory marlin
Burzunga
patent patrol
I dont value teamwide armor pen very highly. I dont want to rely on my team for ...
I do. It's called "fuck it we Chastise".
That's how I deal with Carapace armor.
I hit the F key, hold right click on my Brauto and shoot the damn thing in the face.
ivory marlin
:(
fleet fractal
Deserved
median steeple
What da skooma
vestal pine
skuna?
left iron
I do. It's called "fuck it we Chastise".
But... Thats personal armor pen, not teamwide
patent patrol
But... Thats personal armor pen, not teamwide <a:cat_stare:964151226423984138>
No, no, see, it IS teamwide armor penetration.
ember yew
patent patrol
Because if the thing is dead, I helped the team.
Therefore, it's teamwide armor penetration, because I killed the thing for the team by penetrating it's armor with Chastise.
(In all seriousness I more-so was referring to the latter part about everyone having one thing that can deal with cara. I do and it's called "Fuck it we Chastise")
sterile stone
patent patrol
<:P_kermitsip:1209950334571520121>
Indeed.
vestal pine
Because if the thing is dead, I helped the team.
spiral anvil
Blood letter thunderous what is this struggleaxe
patent patrol
Blood letter thunderous what is this struggleaxe <:KEKW_ogryn:102207718832290616...
apparently bleed ticks trigger thunderous brittleness
or something
spiral anvil
I don't think it does.. like they fixed that on ogryns
Bullgryn charge bleed doesn't give thunderous stacks anymore
patent patrol
I don't think it does.. like they fixed that on ogryns
They said they fixed it on Zealot but someone tested it tonight
it's still a thing
it got fixed for a bit and immediately broke again
so
yeah bloodletter thunderous works
spiral anvil
But is 40% rending eventually still better than just 60% damage now with thrust4
patent patrol
But is 40% rending eventually still better than just 60% damage now with thrust4
I couldn't tell you. It just seems like a fun gimmick so.
spiral anvil
Hence struggleaxe
ivory marlin
<:P_kermitsip:1209950334571520121>
fleet fractal
Have ears
vestal pine
I don't think it does.. like they fixed that on ogryns
its fixed on zealots with scourage as well so
dense field
vestal pine
efficient varlet
blissful tendon
its not worth throwing unarmored on rashad just to oneshot scab bruisers right
ill probably get enough buffs elsewhere to reach that breakpoint?
left iron
Headtaker should get you to the breakpoint
vestal pine
its not worth throwing unarmored on rashad just to oneshot scab bruisers right
marty harty or full headtaker
i actually like maniac on zealot's rashad cause
ragers are more common annoyance than a bruiser
yes you might get slow in hordeclear
but ragers more problematic for me
also me realizing every build i make takes the same nodes forever
ivory marlin
Hi cole
ivory marlin
https://tenor.com/view/orange-cat-stare-gif-18177876402917143905
Did you by chance hire him to watch me?
left iron
using duelist and martyrdom with this so it should? be fine
Ah, needs sustained assault as well i guess first node towards momentum or a few marty stacks
lofty forge
guys what perk is better on mk xv heavy eviscerator 15% block efficiency or 20% damge (infested) ?
i can change one and i dont know which one is better is block efficiency even good ?
left iron
Neither of them is good, infested is slightly better
stable cypress
block efficiency ass
lofty forge
shit
ty for the help
if i change a blessing i can change it again or only one time ?
oak ermine
if i change a blessing i can change it again or only one time ?
You can change whichever blessing slot you have unlocked on an item as many times as you want
tight fog
Maybe a hot take but if I'm going +maniacs on combat axe then Antax is better
And unarmored suits Rashad better
ember yew
https://tenor.com/view/orange-cat-stare-gif-18177876402917143905
someone actually doing it
ember yew
short and simple for non autistic players it says
vestal pine
wasnt the parry use set-amout of stamina
obtuse stirrup
fuck am I glad that build isn't for me
obtuse stirrup
fucking left side of piety too
ember yew
i told you, someone want to be a full aura bot
grizzled aspen
Whoever made this guide should be thrown directly into the mouth of a beast of nurgle.
Misinformation is real.
vestal pine
Not even gonna bother trying to use the mk4, huh?
i have changed mine into mk7 for a while now
grizzled aspen
I considered using the mk7, but after testing both the mk4 and mk7 in high stress situations (high intensity shock troop gauntlet damnation missions), I've found the mk4 makes more sense to my brain.
Either way, everyone knows the mk1 is the inferior choice.
Complete bot pick.
And yeah, left side of piety is gross.
I am a martyr main myself but I have to say right side of piety is great.
bitter anvil
https://tenor.com/view/gachi-gachimuchi-billy-billy-herrington-aniki-gif-2239297...
TLaD theme
hushed knoll
We have made a engineer(tm) assembly with our expensive laser measuring tool
BE CAREFUL ICE
spiral anvil
Where's the duct tape, fake engineer!
left iron
Its already on the wall!
sterile stone
Its already on the wall!
So when are you creating a hydrogen bomb as your next project
brave blaze
what you do is skip purity and take loner, then you can have invocation of death, martyr's purpose & pious cutthroat. Using the mk1 with still super stagger you can get massive backstab kills to make chrous 24/7 150%
crisp furnace
This is ass
stable cypress
difference is marginal so idk, maybe mk3? idk if zealot can reach infinite pushattack spam like psyker or if its even worth, and mk3 is better st on heavies
vestal pine
mk3 has better single target and mk6 has horizontal heavys
hushed knoll
You dare doubt engineer(tm)?
Engineer does not have a tm at the end of it
Spelling fail 
left iron
What
left iron
No thanks
ember yew
left iron
I am sure i would become less fluent in english if i did
left iron
Considering i am already not that great when it comes to english, i'd rather keep it at least somewhat coherent
left iron
Nah, theres a bunch of times when i re-read something i've written like 30 minutes prior and realize i've used the finnish way of writing a sentence, and have to redo the entire sentence
hushed knoll
Nah, theres a bunch of times when i re-read something i've written like 30 minut...
What’s an example of how you would write English the Finnish way
placid fiber
What in the fuck is this?
coarse birch
What dagger you think better on zealot?
Its mostly preference, im not a huge fan of the heavies on the mk6 but they are very similar weapons
Mk6 has some nicer heavies for horde clear whereas mk3 relies on lights and PA
But gets overhead heavies
vestal pine
id use this for my support build but mk1 cant kill shit quick enough itself to proc it
placid fiber
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1250387293286563860/i...
It hurts to look at...
vestal pine
tbh
maybe somethign that can kill easier would benefit from left piety
but like
not that much lol
maybe when 2h powersword comes out i'd go for it for memes
but yknow
wee marty powersword
kills a crusher with a thrust stabby or something idk
hope it has a heavy that is a thrust like deimos
even if it kidna sucks for killing, i think it'd be cool
tropic pelican
the babysitter build is whatever i'm running at the moment
as i watch randoms wade into horde completely ignoring the sniper laser that is on them, get shot and die
vestal pine
should play mine
placid fiber
should play mine
In all honesty I'd rather... at least yours has the death defy
placid fiber
Oh I wouldn't touch that weapon with a 10 foot pole
placid fiber
it makes you aim at the body instead of weakpoints which the knife is specifically good at
vestal pine
i like lacerate but its just korean stuff
vestal pine
it makes you aim at the body instead of weakpoints which the knife is specifical...
every people say this like you'd hit multiple wps and still have a decent damage
also it decently bleeds out cause some of the head hits hit the side target's arm or torso
placid fiber
Nevermind, I'm not gonna bother.
vestal pine
just dont try to go exclusive for one
placid fiber
I don't care to argue right now, I am tired
vestal pine
dont worry you arent the only one that have done it
still strange meta in korea is lacerate uncanny
and here its uncanny with the "unpopular" ones from here
like riposite
its just different really
placid fiber
Even I know lascerate is a meme, and fleshtearer is better lol
and I don't use the knife
vestal pine
Even I know lascerate is a meme, and fleshtearer is better lol
its better on piety yea
i dont use it on marty or momentum
vestal pine
its fun to zoom around in one
placid fiber
but I agree that lascerate sucks past malice
vestal pine
hope zealot gets a shovel so he can zoom around with another weapon with uncanny
vestal pine
but I agree that lascerate sucks past malice
generally i dont see why this notion exists here tbh
but yeah
placid fiber
I've used lascerate... and I use it... on level 1-4 characters lol
with t4 lascerate
I can't use the knife the proper way, since I have bad aim, so I don't use it. I mean I don't even like using it, either, so that just adds to my initial statement
left iron
You can check the pins for reasoning. Its been discussed to the point where lacerate users toss 'it works for me' and 'it feels great' against the bleed damage table given made by people who care enough to make one
placid fiber
@vestal pine ^
left iron
Bleed is mediocre at best for dealing damage, and its main use for zealot is to enable scourge for more crits
placid fiber
Thank you, Ice
vestal pine
generally its regarded as the best blessing to pair with uncanny here
probably because you can bleed out some mobs and go stab others while they bleed to death
placid fiber
Oh yeah, outside of this discord channel people love lascerate... its "so good"...
frozen glen
placid fiber
^
vestal pine
fleshtearer does what lacerate does
sometimes require snowballing but yes
mortal skiff
lacerate feels countra-intuitive or however do you spell it because of the weakspot damage and so on
vestal pine
everyone says that yes
frosty herald
lacerate feels countra-intuitive or however do you spell it because of the weak...
using non weakspot alongside weakspot blessings
placid fiber
That's because people have done the testing, the work
They've researched it
This isn't just some "oh I lascerate cuz it avoids weakspots" they've actually done the research(and testing) on it
vestal pine
This isn't just some "oh I lascerate cuz it avoids weakspots" they've actually d...
have seen it and every single one seems to just assume knifing stuff is just waiting for the thing in front of you dead and then move onto the next one
which is fine, probably more generalistic
placid fiber
Since I know they've done the testing and research I agree with it. Anything I say would just be talking out my ass, since I have not done the testing and research
and... it seems to add up when I follow their advice
drowsy steppe
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1250387293286563860/i...
how is a fucking page that shows you the complete copy of the in game talent tree, curio slot, weapon slot, is supposed to be autistic.
opal star
society would be better if this button didn't only start working 10 seconds into the ending screen
left iron
Kindred, Auric Maelstorm Loot
Shattering to pinning fire
drowsy steppe
and the talent tree is even worse
opal star
damn mallet did this guy kill your grandma or sum
haughty bone
Shattering to pinning fire
Thanks Kindred
ember yew
and the talent tree is even worse
the main problem is someone actually using it
left iron
Thanks Kindred
Ideally on zealot you would prefer cavalcade over surgical, but you can work with it
haughty bone
Ideally on zealot you would prefer cavalcade over surgical, but you can work wit...
Thanks
left iron
Bolter also benefits a lot from fury of the faithful armor degrade on ability use for 4 seconds
drowsy steppe
damn mallet did this guy kill your grandma or sum
Ive seen bad builds but the naming of the build is what sets me off
left iron
You can use the ability, then magdump crushers
haughty bone
Bolter also benefits a lot from fury of the faithful armor degrade on ability us...
along with Maniac
opal star
Ive seen bad builds but the naming of the build is what sets me off
fair enough
haughty bone
I noticed some Range weapons increase attack speed too
vestal pine
and... it seems to add up when I follow their advice
precog uncanny is really great build potential tbh
vestal pine
Bleed is mediocre at best for dealing damage, and its main use for zealot is to ...
great crowd control option for korean's sake, p sure
since uncanny will be active while some hits hit the body the bleed always go for the maniac damage table from what i remember
you can def say just hit them in the head and kill them in 1 shot with other finesse blessings and that would be true yes
nothing to say about that really
vestal pine
and like
shotgunners
yeah thats about it, i think we use it for large trash mobs and lesser elite swarms
either way, will visit this topic again when i actually get to make a replacement
quaint verge
Just use Mk6 and equip haymaker instead of bleed 
vestal pine
Just use Mk6 and equip haymaker instead of bleed <:thumbsup_ogryn:10634527273021...
i use mk3 with haymaker cause PA is a heavy tbh
hushed agate
pale kelp
Hi! been trying out the thunder hammer, and I've noticed it does this then when you try to do heavies, where it starts charging up a left to right swing, and right before you can let go, it stops the animation and swaps hands, anyone have an idea what's causing this?
pale kelp
oh yeah pressing sprint does stop the charge up
might be that
wasn't doing so consciously but maybe just a habit from using combat knives?
thank you tho
was driving me absolutely nuts
visual stream
frosty herald
was driving me absolutely nuts
Thunder hammer doesnt have a slowdown when activating like the crusher
So activate whilst running
visual stream
Thunder hammer doesnt have a slowdown when activating like the crusher
Yeah, only stops sprint if you spam the activation but that's a lot of weapon specials
pale kelp
My problem was that, for dome reason during left to right heavy attack wind ups, my character would, at seemingly random just swap hands to right to left heavies, resulting in mr just standing there and being punched in the face
Came to the conclusion that i probably just have an unhealthy attachment to sprinting
jagged fulcrum
Does anyone know of any good knife/shroudfield builds that don't use Loner?
fleet zealot
vestal pine
so i think the most reason for lacerate on here is just it's helping with horde clear
dont think it does much on itself but just knifing and going away
with decent crit build flesh tearer is better for this
north sedge
vestal pine
https://discord.com/channels/727074276724965407/1046913589614747719/124337056307...
ig, does this consider cleave damage loss and compare that with the bleed application
guess this works
merry flume
Does anyone know of any good knife/shroudfield builds that don't use Loner?
forsake damage mitigation for cdr, or no until death / holy rev safety net
loner of course lmao but you gotta give up 3 points for it. and this is pretty much just skimming by with stuff that makes knife work
vestal pine
guess this works
jagged fulcrum
Yeah i know what you mean.. its a shame as i like playing with the team so it feels like a wasted slot. But its positioned in an awkward way
vestal pine
Yeah i know what you mean.. its a shame as i like playing with the team so it fe...
idk if it still gives 7.5% TDR aura or not(according to buff screen it does)
jagged fulcrum
Thanks guys 🙏 good point the others are not exactly game changers. Think im just nitpicking as ive been min maxing weapons for the last god knows how long 🥲
merry flume
just play loner but don't actually play loner
merry flume
i usually am right on top of my team unless:
- any psyker that makes my screen 100% blue
- flamer zealot that makes my screen 100% orange
jagged fulcrum
For sure- had my first hatemail in my first auric mission yesterday for having loner despite playing with the team the whole time and clutching an almost wipe twice and this vet just raged so hard for some reason
merry flume
even worse if THEY DONT SPOT
vestal pine
i usually am right on top of my team unless:
- any psyker that makes my screen ...
what about ogryn covering half your screen
merry flume
what about ogryn covering half your screen
wish i recorded it, but i spotted a poxburster in lights out auric the other day. tried to shoot it, and ogryn gets in the way, turns around like i'm griefing him and it just oneshots him
merry flume
For sure- had my first hatemail in my first auric mission yesterday for having l...
idk what lobbies you get but i rarely get yappy people in my aurics
i kinda wish i would get those lobbies, i'm used to vt2 cata deathruns so the solo clutch is in my blood
vestal pine
wish i recorded it, but i spotted a poxburster in lights out auric the other day...
lmfao
merry flume
i think IIIVEG maelstroms are the closest to cata we can get
vestal pine
you dont really wanna bleed out a crusher, but it kinda helps to kill a bunch of elites that you can cleave with lights if you have uncanny ready and go for the head but if it slips to the body it's still sucking them out of blood
merry flume
also uncanny does this
me when i throw a knife with full uncanny stacks and it damn near oneshots a crusher 
vestal pine
fun to use that
merry flume
you dont really wanna bleed out a crusher, but it kinda helps to kill a bunch of...
uncanny works with bleedstacks
vestal pine
lacerate is a meme here which i can see why but not understand fully
merry flume
nah
vestal pine
its the meta in korean subcommunity
vestal pine
flesh tearer is better if you go for piety tbh
merry flume
it's still good
just a little bit more of a ramp up
but in hordes your crit is crazy high regardless
vestal pine
tearer requires base crit chance to roll tbh
sometimes it gets arsed and i dont like that
vestal pine
for piety you still get like idk, 40% base without scourge so tearer better
merry flume
i could probaly do more damage if i switched flesh tearer with precog or riposte but i'm so used to juggling targets the 16 bleed stacks makes finishing off crushers and maulers and bulwarks brainless
vestal pine
precog just kills randomly and i like it
i think lacerate is popular here cause its forgiving
merry flume
and yeah one crit pretty much starts the scourge crit pain train
vestal pine
yeah
piety is good with that and i agree flesh tearer is better there cause yknow better crit chance
kinda sucks on marty or momentum which is why people just recommend for lacerate here, idk
its decent
merry flume
it also TECHNICALLY helps you reach breakpoints
jagged fulcrum
Just appreciating your wisdom here as im fairly new, should i be aiming to ditch mercy killer for flesh tearer? My knife has uncanny iv already but that does seem meta
merry flume
and it's funny to only hit a crusher once or twice and watch him just fall over
vestal pine
precog users be like doesnt matter if i outright kill them
which is true tbh
vestal pine
Just appreciating your wisdom here as im fairly new, should i be aiming to ditch...
uncanny is always there
and use like precog if you use uh
dualist and want funny oneshot montages
spare dome
why are there fukken coronal projections on your screen
vestal pine
any bleed(lacerate and flesh tearer) just helps with snowballing hordes
merry flume
Just appreciating your wisdom here as im fairly new, should i be aiming to ditch...
mercy killer sounds good on paper but it fucking sucks because it doesn't trigger on the same attack that bleeds the target (iirc)
vestal pine
re turd here(and ive been fucked by no noise trapper before) and using spidy sense
merry flume
so unless you have damn near 100% crit it kinda sucks because one whiff can mean the difference of 60% damage 😭
spare dome
that looks obnoxious as shit
vestal pine
it is
spare dome
id rather just die
merry flume
i have spidey sense but only for backstabs
vestal pine
better than trapper randomly teleporting to back of you but i should tone it down tbh
jagged fulcrum
so unless you have damn near 100% crit it kinda sucks because one whiff can mean...
Wow thats terrible when you put it like that... Back to the drawing board 😄
Im sure revolvers will get nerfed as soon as i bloody get surgical iv too...
merry flume
im by no means an expert at zealot, i just play the game a lot and go off of feel
vestal pine
Wow thats terrible when you put it like that... Back to the drawing board 😄
its good on vet
but for zealot just take precog
dodge is easy to come by and dualist also procs with it increasing damage tenfold
vestal pine
ngl i hope all crit/rending blessings get nerfed
handcannon be like
ember yew
vestal pine
uncanny is still brutally op yea
merry flume
handcannon is INSANELY op on my crit build 😭
vestal pine
minus the fact that the knife is still the only uncanny available on zealot
ember yew
use slaugtherer+headtaker and for 12 can go any of those two + thrust
vestal pine
but either way still does the same thing so bleed goes through well
merry flume
so a worse version of rending got it
vestal pine
so a worse version of rending got it
team oriented
north sedge
its team wide, but yea, it's crap because it has to be stacked up on the enemy
vestal pine
basically slap one on a crusher and it becomes butter for everyone
merry flume
atp just put it on crusher and call it a day
ember yew
but its better just to kill it alone and be done with it
merry flume
crusher has no blessing variety
vestal pine
only real usable ones are like huge swing ones like ogryn's batter and trauma's rending
merry flume
every single person who uses crusher will recommend the same 2 blessings with only variations being meme contrarians
vestal pine
everyone usually carries around some crusher weaponry anyway so it kinda doesnt matter
only really good brittleness is rending shockwave tbh
on trauma
and that has a contender with nexus blazing spirit funny soulblaze snowballing build
vestal pine
every single person who uses crusher will recommend the same 2 blessings with on...
crusher has like 4 blessings anyway
its skullcrusher with whaever you choose
or whatever you have
not like they matter much
north sedge
i dont mind crusher having 4 blessings, because it's easy to build and is actually balanced around it's blessings
vestal pine
just hate the fact that you're basically required for the skullcrusher but eh
its fine balancewise tbh
its fun to use
frosty herald
i would enjoy thunderous on the crusher but skullcrusher is enough
a well balanced weapon that doesnt rely on its blessings
vestal pine
i would enjoy thunderous on the crusher but skullcrusher is enough
monkey paw points yo uto crusis with tunderous skullcrusher
god thunderhammer has like
10 blessings
and only 3 are usable
vestal pine
good thing i finished it early
and now im comitted to making skullcrusher thunderous for the memes
also to whomever said that ironhelm activates twice the debuff blessings
it doesnt for some reason
im sad
vestal pine
vestal pine
arguably the rarest blessing in the game
points at power cycler 4
frosty herald
nahh powercycler 4 is still easier to get
vestal pine
i dont even use this its just bad
vestal pine
nahh powercycler 4 is still easier to get
powersword still has 10 blessings on t4 wasnt it?
north sedge
when i was trying to get bm for power sword i rolled power cycler like 6 times (and already had it)
vestal pine
speaking of other korean oddities
we recommend slaughterer over BM here
funnily enough BM just doesnt get mentioned people just say use sunder
which is idk
fine?
anyhoo
vestal pine
lacerate is popular here as well which is why i have a gang fight with lacerate on this channer every 12 hours, idk
otherwise i think most things are same
ripe quest
what's the difference
Brittle is a debuff applied to enemies, rending is a buff applied to yourself. They both share the same rending bonus cap.
vestal pine
thrust with headtaker/slaughterer is the main here for hammers as well
and everyone recommends sane person to only try ironhelm
ember yew
thrust with headtaker/slaughterer is the main here for hammers as well
and every...
it doesn't matter a sht in the end
vestal pine
might put carapace on this cause then the bleed
ember yew
i run it literally once a month for MS missions
ember yew
you can see the name and stuff
north sedge
ironhelm was dogshit for a really long time
vestal pine
do you use charge for anything other than soloing high health targets
ember yew
i just dont feel the impact of using a hammer if it's not a maelstrom with +boss spawn from elite kills
ember yew
do you use charge for anything other than soloing high health targets
charge + weakspot hit
vestal pine
i just dont feel the impact of using a hammer if it's not a maelstrom with +boss...
frined with a guy who oneshots assisanation bosses, its funny
ember yew
i mean yeah, but these bosses are already kinda weak tbh, you kinda just banggang the poor guy
vestal pine
anyway crusis bad on my book ironhelm is funier cause i can clear hordes with it
like a wii resort bowling strike sound plays in my head when i charge heavy teh horde
north sedge
i still prefer crucis
ember yew
as for the Ironhelm ability
to hit elites in the pack
i just use braced and wipe the floor with whatever there is
weapon swap is quick so no problem
vestal pine
i just use braced and wipe the floor with whatever there is
fair point
vestal pine
i just like being able to do stuff other than swing heavy
merry flume
more weapons like mk2 evis where i have to block cancel and do combos to actually play well
ember yew
i just like being able to do stuff other than swing heavy
well yeah, not like its a super active build like Evis mk2 (or Crusher)
calm salmon
i just like being able to do stuff other than swing heavy
let me introduce you to the indignatus crusher
ember yew
you just bonk things
calm salmon
We have light attacks. We have heavy attacks. We have push attacks. We have energized attacks.
calm salmon
Attacks for all of your needs
merry flume
this weapon sucks and i actually hate it
calm salmon
weapon acquistion rework when
vestal pine
i still havent extracted shred
(i use perfect strike to ignore shields when m1spam the damage is still hardcapped at 4 targets)
merry flume
its time to swap shred for momentum
getting toughness broken with that weapon of all weapons 😭
how
vestal pine
getting toughness broken with that weapon of all weapons 😭
possibly marty build
merry flume
i do use it with a marty build
ember yew
getting toughness broken with that weapon of all weapons 😭
we need a 70's ad like where you use a momentum one and just stay in one place without dodging and blocking and toughness always max
vestal pine
i wondered if momentum is better on the crusis or the mk2 evi
merry flume
evi
vestal pine
probably
im still making that meme crusis with thunderous and skullcrusher at one point
merry flume
unreliable with hammers cause high impact lmao
merry flume
eventually it will start working but the oneshot potential of a heavy is much higher on the evis (in my experience)
wait im tweaking momentum is number of enemies hit right
north sedge
yes
vestal pine
eventually it will start working but the oneshot potential of a heavy is much hi...
it is higher cause if you crit with mk15 and it has carapace perk on it it oneshots crushers
fun
momentum requires 3 enemy hit anyway its fine probably
tbh
i think like
merry flume
yeah i just remember getting fucked over because hammer makes everything stumble every fucking where
maybe i'm happy crusher has no weakpoint blessings
vestal pine
yeah i just remember getting fucked over because hammer makes everything stumble...
probably works better with skullcrusher n shit cause that requires the enemy to be staggered to actually damage bonus apprantly lolz
vestal pine
smackdown isnt even a stagger blessing
its just badly designed, like copied over from ogryn or something
like punching with human fits gonna stun anything
merry flume
north sedge
hammer easily hits 3 (and if you're losing a power blessing, goodbye to alot of impact/dmg)
ember yew
will fatshark ever revisit and rebalance the blessings
i wonder
there's so much useless sht
vestal pine
hammer easily hits 3 (and if you're losing a power blessing, goodbye to alot of ...
i just wanna run a skullcrusher thunderous crusis for the memes
merry flume
they fucking better 
vestal pine
i already have a great ironhelm so
merry flume
just new blessings alone would breathe so much more life in the game for me
maybe you can actually play into some weird playstyles
vestal pine
when do you think they'll fix this in psykarium lol
merry flume
parry in vermintide
vestal pine
*parry in vermintide*
i wish overhead parry had more gimmicks than just vanity