i only got like 30% through
#zealot-class
fleet zealot
buttstallion is NOT CLEVER
ur just mad you can't afford a horse made out of diamonds
maiden path
ur just mad you can't afford a horse made out of diamonds
dont u ever in ur life say i cant buy a diamond horse
thems fighting words
fleet zealot
thems fighting words
holy shit are factions dying quicker or have i jsut not noticed
i'm down to 150 factions
maiden path
holy shit are factions dying quicker or have i jsut not noticed
the emperor during horus heresy
misty mason
the emperor during horus heresy
misty mason
Is this Solasta?
misty mason
What game
maiden path
thats dark and darker
misty mason
It has DnD classes
hot steppe
its so fucking clever dude
im waiting for the damn account linking
maiden path
im waiting for the damn account linking
how does that work
i thought it was only on steam
hot steppe
i thought it was only on steam
before it was on steam you had to use their launcher
maiden path
before it was on steam you had to use their launcher
oh i saw that
only their launcher has shit about news
which is odd
hot steppe
only their launcher has shit about news
i mean their discord gets constant updates
misty mason
Hahaha holy shit
maiden path
i mean their discord gets constant updates
hrngh i dont wanna join a discord only for updates
misty mason
Looks at reviews
Game is listed as free, but that's onlt the demo. Actual games is 30 euro and is full of MTX
I fucken knew it
maiden path
im waiting for a rouge buff and i only started this week
u can play as long as u want
fleet zealot
Looks at reviews
Game is listed as free, but that's onlt the demo. Actual games ...
i mean, servers don't pay themselves
maiden path
and the mtx are shit but they dont really add anything other then cosmetics
misty mason
I just know how South Korean games be
hot steppe
Looks at reviews
Game is listed as free, but that's onlt the demo. Actual games ...
Yeahhh, that’s really the only bad thing currently is that it’s not really shown to be a demo
maiden path
they do need to list that the full game is 30 bucks though
fleet zealot
i didn't research but i knew it would be mtx at minimum, if not a "full game upgrade"
misty mason
BDO is (one of) the worst examples of MTX milking I have ever seen
maiden path
wtf is bdo!!
what are these apreviatons!!!!!!!
abrev
back desert onlin
that game has berserk stuff
maiden path
misty mason
Ooooh
fleet zealot
it was cool to watch my character automatically do stuff for about, 30 minutes
misty mason
Someone pointed out that the reason its set as a FTP games is so that you cant refund it
Yeesh
BDO is truly MTX hell
maiden path
Someone pointed out that the reason its set as a FTP games is so that you cant r...
wha gam
misty mason
You can buy things to reduce the ridiculous grind, but they aren't even permanent
Dark and Darker
maiden path
u can play it with a single character as long as u want
the refund bit is balogny
full game is if ur gonna sink lik 3 trillion hours in it
it is an extrac game
extract
1 character is FUCKED though
games got like 8 classes
can only use 1
hot steppe
can only use 1
You can use them all if you actually own it, I get why they do it that way really, i think doing a “demo” version of the game is super hard to balance out while also having it be part of the live version of the game
hot steppe
You can buy things to reduce the ridiculous grind, but they aren't even permanen...
In dark and darker?
maiden path
they do need to say its a demo though
misty mason
In dark and darker?
nah BDO
maiden path
thats like the one complaint i have
hot steppe
Alright I was about to say lmao, like I don’t remember that when I played dark and darker
maiden path
other then solo play being a bit fucked but thats just extract games in general
hot steppe
thats like the one complaint i have
Same, and I own the game
maiden path
i deleted my rogue to play ranger cause i was mad
but i also hate ranger
and just wanna play rogue
now my rogues level 1.........
maiden path
what
misty mason
Assuming you aren't a powergamer who thinks DPR is the only valid metric
maiden path
im talking about dark and darker.......
misty mason
Are they not based on 5e?
misty mason
this guy
maiden path
dark and darker is seperate from dungeons and dragons other then classes im pretty sure
its an extract dungeon crawler ass game
its got mimics doe
hot steppe
Are they not based on 5e?
No lmao
misty mason
Weird
hot steppe
Dark and darker is its own special hell
misty mason
Why would they use DnD classes and just, not actually use them
hot steppe
The only actual DND aspect to it is the classes themselves and the areas you play in
misty mason
I guess to lure in DnD players?
maiden path
rangers have bows and shit
hot steppe
I guess to lure in DnD players?
Equipment is class based
maiden path
yea
hot steppe
That’s gonna be your main dnd aspect
maiden path
i want my fucking 40 second invisiblity back for rouge and ive only played a week
i cant use this fucking 24 second invisiblty!!
hot steppe
i want my fucking 40 second invisiblity back for rouge and ive only played a wee...
No, I hate that thing, 24 seconds is more then enough
maiden path
im waiting for da rogue gigabuff
but druid got nerfed so im fine for now
i got fucking trapped in a room by a druid after his stupid little tree bitch aggro'd onto me in the dark
hot steppe
did they sort that out?
To my knowledge they’ve completely sorted that out, they might have 1 lawsuit still but if they were able to come back to steam that’s a pretty good sign
maiden path
and his little gang of losers killed me with their stupid druid powers
fleet zealot
Are they not based on 5e?
it is inspired by dungeon crawling fantasy it does not use dnd rules
misty mason
Yeah thats what Im saying
Thats weird
If it isn't actually using DnD rules its odd to use DnD classes
hot steppe
I mean not really
misty mason
Like I said, I assume its just to draw in DnD players or to use familiar archetypes to lower the learning curve
hot steppe
Like most fantasy esc type games have a class system
maiden path
yea
misty mason
Im not talking about a class system in general
maiden path
those are pretty normal classes
hot steppe
Even if it boils down to the most basic ever, fighter, range, mage
misty mason
Im talking about the specific DnD class system
hot steppe
At least dark and darker is better then that
hot steppe
aoooooough ironmace gigabuff rogue
Rouge used to be the most BROKEN class, you could be wearing the highest armor rating in the game and get like 4 hit with a dagger and die
fleet zealot
If it isn't actually using DnD rules its odd to use DnD classes
none of the classes are unique to dnd like at all
no arcane tricksters, no eldritch knights, no hexblade warlocks,
fleet zealot
maiden path
Rouge used to be the most BROKEN class, you could be wearing the highest armor r...
ik that
shouldnt of fucking giganerfed him though!!
i was looking at the patch notes on reddit like 2 days ago in fucking disbelief at how hard they shafted this guy
having to take 2 perks to walk around for a reasonable amount of time as rogue is insane
atleast combine the two pwerks
perks
spare talon
i have explained this to the same person so many different times and ways with examples
and they are just not getting it
with actual gameplay to match
its literally just each person has a shape assigned they dont want, and are randomly given 2 of the 3 total shapes
every person hands each other the shape that they dont want, so they are only holding those incorrect ones
then they distribute the shapes out to each person
so there is no possible way at the end you can have the one you dont want, since you were the one who gave them all away
misty mason
What is this even about
spare talon
d2 raid encounter
misty mason
Oh lol
I've heard the new expac is good
But every time I go back to play d2 I get to a point where I just feel kind of disappointed in myself that I had paid for it again
fleet zealot
got all the branding iron buffs for my aspiring champions
and damn hammerstorm gives a ton of buffs to my army too
maiden path
what game is this ?
dark and darker
fleet zealot
pls donate to the ferret ssd fund so i can get a fat, new ssd and not be stuck loading in twwh3 as my computer melts my room cause i'm using an old HDD
for reasons, this is completely a joke
maiden path
pls donate to the beb beb external ssd fund so i can get a fat, new ssd and download everything ever
for reasons, this is not a joke
give me money
fleet zealot
morkar running across the map to take all my regiments of renown so i can replace them with more aspiring champions
maiden path
do frames go slower the higher they are
so if somethings shot at like 1400 frames its slow motion
rugged sierra
is first target a dump stat on knife?
fleet zealot
is first target a dump stat on knife?
no
median steeple
i deleted my rogue to play ranger cause i was mad
play fighter
maiden path
play fighter
no!
fleet zealot
only mobility is dump on knife, pen can drop a little if you have uncanny 4
maiden path
erm fighter cant use fists
median steeple
Erm skill issue
maiden path
barbarian not either
got a axe
none of the classes are made to kill shit with fists
median steeple
did they add new classes other than warlock?
median steeple
lame
maiden path
can turn into animals
maiden path
is that premium?
yea its a cosmetic
fleet zealot
specific to a class, or can be any class werewolf
median steeple
fleet zealot
probably cause it costs fuckin money
maiden path
ive seen like three skeletons
a skeleton rogue in the prelobby i was stabbing
in game
stabbed me to death
with his gang
maiden path
u cant get skelton anymore..
median steeple
the bonar gang
fleet zealot
maiden path
median steeple
rugged sierra
any tips to get the shocking stuff penance?
median steeple
Flamer and fury of the faithful
Throw nade at horde
Start brace firing flamer
Press F with Fury
and hopefully your teammates dont take your kills
rugged sierra
doesnt fof only affect melee weapons?
median steeple
nope
rugged sierra
what
median steeple
yeah if affects guns as well
rugged sierra
oh i see
north sedge
downgrades armor for 3 seconds on ranged
rugged sierra
blazing piety is recommended for it too?
north sedge
doesnt really do anything for flamer
rugged sierra
cool imma give it some attempts tn
fleet zealot
doesnt fof only affect melee weapons?
As long as you don't do a melee attack, your ranged attacks will degrade armor and do more damage for a short duration during fotf
i'd go inexorable judgement but keystone doesn't matter
rugged sierra
i figured
im assuming ranged based perks are best when trying to buff flamer?
if i wanted to min max the penance lol
median steeple
also blaze away on your flamer if you want to min max
north sedge
make sure to lay down some fire before hitting fury too
rugged sierra
so my gameplan should be: wait for large horde > run ahead of team so they dont steal kills > grenade > flame a bit of ground > press f for fotf > kill heretics > get penance ?
rugged sierra
ill give it a shot
rain wing
Does shield of contempt apply to the damage that procs it?
fleet zealot
so my gameplan should be: wait for large horde > run ahead of team so they dont ...
just ask team in chat and even vc
all archeon quests done
drowsy steppe
Does shield of contempt apply to the damage that procs it?
I don't think so
oak delta
Make it thematic with an army.
fleet zealot
Make it thematic with an army.
ye this is archeon's aspirant army
so i'm going to keep it undivided
and shadow
it's been useful
oak delta
fleet zealot
after i get the north settled i'll make the 4 armies of the gods
right now aspirant and renown 2 armies is enough for my economy keeps building up
maiden path
CHAAAT
FIRST DARK AND DARKER EXTRACT
rate the haul 😏
no im not putting shoes on ik one of u are gonna say something
cerulean moth
why does it look like you extracted with two pieces of dogshit
that sprite be crazy
and a coom potion
u are fucked up man
jaunty hull
rate the haul 😏
Why not double dagger?
maiden path
Why not double dagger?
shits too corny
im not here to do theatrics
im here to stab shit in the face
spare talon
@median steeple https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAc898Fl5q4&ab_channel=EpicCole
look at this shit
maiden path
maggots which are normally found in??
zombies!
zinc talon
flame the enemies directly
fuckin stupid enemies
god they're so dumb
prolly gay and or a minority too
stupid idiots
spare talon
oh yeah that video i just posted exactly what this was for
maiden path
prolly gay and or a minority too
okri you cant say that
ivory marlin
i have to be him
That image goes so hard
zinc talon
okri you cant say that
heh I didn't say a qualifier about it at all
y ou ASSUMED I was implying that's synonymous with the lesser
curious.
also
maiden path
literally the one game I can be a goblin
zinc talon
ivory marlin
oh yeah that video i just posted exactly what this was for
||when my ghost die i was about to kill somebody||
zinc talon
also I apologize if I touched close to any sensitivities with that flame the enemies directly bit
I fired from the hip I do not care at all trans rights
zinc talon
before empra gave me a target for the hate
outer parcel
its ok, just tell okri that the enemy contaminated his rations
zinc talon
SNIVLURS USIN POOP SHOVLS CONT
CNTAMA
MAYD M TAYST BAD
WASH YER ANDS DONT USE LATRYN SHUVL
maiden path
My soul is humble when I see the way ogryns accept their lot. emperor, save ogryns. the wind blows and the rain's a-cold. yet they abide...They abide and they endure.
grizzled aspen
I want to pull my eyeballs out with a spoon. This wh3 mod doesn't want to work. I reset all the skill trees of 3 lord types, made them all nice and fancy, but ONE SKILL on one of the types wont show up even though all 3 are laid out EXACTLY THE SAME.
Going to throw my computer off a tall building.
Also, one of them has a skill I did not assign to him. I have no idea what is assigning this skill or how it's being assigned (like as a dummy skill?) but its irritating me quite a lot.
median steeple
<@508465754832633896> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAc898Fl5q4&ab_channel=Epi...
10 years of raiding did not prepare me for this
fleet zealot
I want to pull my eyeballs out with a spoon. This wh3 mod doesn't want to work. ...
this is why i don't mod games like that
grizzled aspen
I think I've found a workaround. Was having issues with spellcasting on one of these lords. Attempting to overwrite the node positioning wasn't working so I created my own spellcasting skillset and disabled the original one. I might have to just disable this skill as well and create one with the same effects.
Like, arcane conduit was the third skill in the line, if that tells you how broken the line was.
spare talon
10 years of raiding did not prepare me for this
did you watch the full thing
this encounter is probably the most mechanically complicated, even more than vault in last wish
median steeple
I did
I still dont understand it
and my team just got to it
we are taking this raid in pieces since its late
but the rest of the encounters have been pretty fun
maiden path
https://tenor.com/view/neco-arc-a-thousand-miles-gif-1721997480211008823
stupid ass cat
wrong gif
outer parcel
bro what
maiden path
right gif
outer parcel
🤯
spare talon
cuz im typing a lot
maiden path
ok sure pal
spare talon
I still dont understand it
3 people get thrown into solo rooms, each person in has a statue of them with a shape theyre holding, that being the shape that person does NOT want
the shape rotating on the back wall are the ones the knights in the room can drop, and can be picked up and put in the statues of the other players to send it to their room, allowing their knights to drop them
what all 3 people want to do is grab those shapes and send them to the people who dont want them first, so all that everyone is only holding the ones they dont want, then they can distribute them to the other players, as that will give mean no one would have the shapes they dont want that way
then they pick them up at the same time to convert those two into a 3d shape in your buff inventory, which is the end goal for those rooms
the other 3 people are in one room together, which shows those same statues but theyre all holding 3d shapes, which need to be changed to the 3d shapes that are combinations of the two shapes that the statue does NOT have in the solo rooms
just like the other rooms, knights drop shapes and can be deposited at the statues, but this instead primes the shape of that 3d object for a swap, activating another statue with another shape will swap the primed shapes of those 3d objects, and you do this to create the correct shape for all 3 statues, which allow the players in the solo rooms to leave once they have made their 3d shape
halfway through this, each solo room person will be calcified and be death spectating and their ghost will be visible in the group room. the group of 3 need to pick the ghost up and place it at the correct empty spot at the far back of the room. the calcified people can each see 1 persons correct location via the players model in that spot. placing their ghost in the correct empty spot will instantly uncalcify the person and let them resume. this does mean you will need to distinguish players based on both their armor and their ghost. after the previous symbol phase is done, and everyone is back in the group room, this happens again, but with 5 people being calcified and the last person needing to start breaking them out the same way.
random adder
i have to be him
mfer be goblinmaxxing
median steeple
3 people get thrown into solo rooms, each person in has a statue of them with a ...
Ok im getting it now
spare talon
Ok im getting it now
so like rewatch the video with this in mind and it may help click
the 3d shape swapping is honestly the hardest part to get a hold of cuz it quite literally is "i hope you dont suck at geometry"
spare talon
this unironically is already one of my favorite raid encounters
outer parcel
and exotics i guess
spare talon
this shit is so fun
outer parcel
eh im just a hater, i dont remotely like the raids/dungeons
spare talon
but MAN did it take a while to click
outer parcel
they feel like they are focused too much on the puzzle rather than the main gameplay loop
and i much prefer the actual gameplay
fleet zealot
god damn attrition hurts when your units are 12 big
vestal pine
3 people get thrown into solo rooms, each person in has a statue of them with a ...
i dont get this
spare talon
they feel like they are focused too much on the puzzle rather than the main game...
this encounter that is absolutely the case
fleet zealot
i dont get this
welcome to MMOs
spare talon
but other parts, you really gotta be on top of the actual shooting part
spare talon
whats your favorite catachan
mk 4]
maiden path
maiden path
verbal briar
whats the preferred axe noawadays
fleet zealot
rashad
drowsy steppe
https://tenor.com/view/cloud-strife-godzilla-willem-dafoe-nebsgoodtakes-ff7-rebi...
why
fleet zealot
sometimes antax for push attack damage/better head hitreg
head hitreg hasn't been a thing since rashad got fixed
the push attack damage is like, something? but it's not needed, meanwhile rashad's push attack is heavy stagger, and it has finesse over cleave targets stat
finesse is attack speed and more weakspot damage compared to antax so it's just, better
fleet zealot
at that point i'd just use the mk4 chaxe push attack
vestal pine
at that point i'd just use the mk4 chaxe push attack
doesnt have brutal momentum
drowsy steppe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7rLdd8EiJQ
actually banging
https://youtu.be/s9sVUqOhcPU try this
cerulean moth
zinc talon
cerulean moth
stfu
drowsy steppe
Hand Cannon secured it
cerulean moth
theres stil time
no
theres still time
u might get relod speed
and bash or some shit
drowsy steppe
Perks don't really matter on the revolver when crit rending exist
fleet zealot
Twwh3 crashed and finally put me to bed
Having a ton of fun with aspirant army archeon
cerulean moth
move over.
zinc talon
it's okay though
drowsy steppe
fleet zealot
Damn
cerulean moth
POST IT
zinc talon
fleet zealot
I want to be all humble with my 1070 rig
zinc talon
cghecking blessings rq
cerulean moth
fleet zealot
It makes me full of greed and envy
I want a 4090 rig so i can admire valkia’s toned abs in 4k
cerulean moth
fleet zealot
you don't need a 4090
Oh for sure
zinc talon
you just need the power of your imagination
zinc talon
https://tenor.com/bLh5r.gif
that isn't the pistol I'm gonna orange it's just another I have
fleet zealot
Logically, i’m fine with my 1070 rig with 1080p monitor
cerulean moth
ye
zinc talon
I've never used a revolver once so I have like thirty god tier statted to orange
fleet zealot
But twwh makes me want more
cerulean moth
shitcked
fleet zealot
It’s so good looking
spare talon
dude what a god roll
you can hip fire while sprinting with 15% more efficiency
fleet zealot
Tfw i have 3 casters life suck the enemy lord so i win a battle that was a decisive defeat (all my units have barriers and took no damage)
Well, just 2 now
Swapped the other caster to a different army
zinc talon
I can fix her
frosty herald
frosty herald
Weapon customization will allow me to remove the shotgun stock and make it a sawn off
vestal pine
kinda
stable cypress
its strong
night grove
mr melky had that for me
vestal pine
i use it with shred/perfect strike and have crits for days
stable cypress
bloodletter actually p good on it too b/c rev'd lights cleave thru trash and apply bleed to the mob instead of getting stuck on one nerd
fleet zealot
night grove
bloodletter actually p good on it too b/c rev'd lights cleave thru trash and app...
yeah i saw the little doc say that was good on that evis
fleet zealot
bloodletter actually p good on it too b/c rev'd lights cleave thru trash and app...
You dont really need it, the bleed stack is half the normal blessing (chaxe chsword) cause evis have cleave revs
Rampage gives more
stable cypress
fleet zealot
You dont need bleed to jumpstart scourge in a crit build cause you have high bc you have high crit chance as is
stable cypress
sure but also imo probs better to swap out wrath for rampage or savage on that specific evis, and flush specialist
fleet zealot
yeah i saw the little doc say that was good on that evis
Yea no the doc says bloodthirsty on mk15 not bloodletting
fleet zealot
Bloodthirsty lets mk15 chain kill crushers easily
If you wanted bloodletting maximized (idk why) the activated h1 of mk2 has way more cleave
night grove
ahh
fleet zealot
But it also has more damage so the bleed still won’t matter
fleet zealot
so do crits one shot crushers?
Yes
night grove
classy
that sounds fun
evis is a weapon i used a lot at launch but ahvent touched much recently
been thinking abt it
what are the major differences between the two marks? is one cleanly better
fleet zealot
It’s also cause mk15 has a damage cap of 4 so it isn’t as reliant on stat blessings
fleet zealot
what are the major differences between the two marks? is one cleanly better
Neither is better, mk15 is just the easier and straightforward one
night grove
kay
stable cypress
mk2 has better horde potential because first heavy is big cleaving horizontal
mk15 is ez, cleaving lights and overhead heavies
fleet zealot
Mk15 is simple heavies overhead, cleaving lights
night grove
Mk15 is simple heavies overhead, cleaving lights
that sounds nice
i remember at some point the old evis you just spammed lights
cus the strikedown heavy did as much damage as a light or something
fleet zealot
Mk2 is a combo weapon so you need to know when to swap between lights and heavies as you are fighting, but it has a much more rewarded playstyle
night grove
thats good
stable cypress
you can do that with high attack speed but it's much more efficient to do proper combos
fleet zealot
cus the strikedown heavy did as much damage as a light or something
Well thats just when evi and chainweapons sucked in general
night grove
yea
i remember when the regular chain sword was one of the best zealot weapons
as well
goofy
fleet zealot
They were fun, but utterly shiet when it came to damnation breakpoints and rev was way clunkier
fleet zealot
i remember when the regular chain sword was one of the best zealot weapons
I mean, for sheer horde clear, mk4 chsword is king
night grove
honestly thats probably the one i remember
LOL
so maybe i will really like modern evis
if its less weird
fleet zealot
It falls off a bit when you add elites and armor but chsword is still a staple
If you liked vt2 executioner sword you’ll like mk15 evi
night grove
thats nice
so what would you do with the one i posted? im thinking that wrath is an acceptable enough substitute for savage sweep so i could go rampage and maniac
but idk if bloodthirsty would be better to nab instead somewhere
steady hearth
so what would you do with the one i posted? im thinking that wrath is an accepta...
it absolutely is not
crits are nowhere even close to the consistency of damage that savage sweep gives against trash hordes
night grove
wrath is the on hit cleave no
fleet zealot
crits are nowhere even close to the consistency of damage that savage sweep give...
On mk15?
Nahh
It can kinda use wrath
But it has a damage cap of 4
stable cypress
mk15 already has a p low max cleave dmg count, you want some just to cleave thru beefier boys
yeah like its really not built the same as mk2 evis
fleet zealot
It you want to cleave through beefier boys, go pstrike with shred or rampage and go crit build
ember yew
for me Rampage on MK15 is enough as bonus cleave, the second is either Shred or Momentum
fleet zealot
Otherwise rampage BT is really consistent if a bit limited
Not a fan of momentum. Zealot has a ton of toughness regen as is
spare talon
crits are nowhere even close to the consistency of damage that savage sweep give...
savage sweep? damage? on a mk 15? huh??
stable cypress
I mean there's a specific breakpoint to get thru enough bruisers at iirc 11ish cleave? and after that any more isn't really adding anything
and wrath def hits that bp
fleet zealot
for me Rampage on MK15 is enough as bonus cleave, the second is either Shred or ...
The unique thing about pstrike is that it makes the cleave ignore armor so dont get stuck throwing lights on dense flak/carapace but it’s subpar imo
grizzled aspen
how good is this pattern of evis
I would trade out bloodletter for rampage and melee vs specialists for either carapace or unyielding and then call it good.
ember yew
The unique thing about pstrike is that it makes the cleave ignore armor so dont ...
I think you are replying to wrong person
fleet zealot
Rampage tooltip is wrong it is power, so more cleave and stagger not just damage
stable cypress
pstrike better on evis2 for funny full crit cdr refund onchastise
fleet zealot
I think you are replying to wrong person
Probably
fleet zealot
pstrike better on evis2 for funny full crit cdr refund onchastise
Why
Bt or shred do that better
ember yew
pstrike (+shred) is both for mk2 and mk15 tho, feels the same
fleet zealot
Evi 2 has uncapped cleave damage anyways
Mk2 def can go rampage sweep or rampage wrath and do without pstrike
ember yew
Not a fan of momentum. Zealot has a ton of toughness regen as is
In case someone want to be unkillable, i did used that one 5+ months ago since it was the first decent one i rolled
feels like this is the best you can recommend to new players
fleet zealot
feels like this is the best you can recommend to new players
Bleh
It’s alright but
It isn’t need and it won’t help if your team is utter anchors cause you’ll lack the statcheck power and eventually be overwhelmed
ember yew
last night i started an MS run
and 3(one person twice, after the first rez) people died instantly from trash mobs a minute after the start
for these kind of people im not sure if anything could help
but in terms of momentum application mk15 feels like the best one
tranquil summit
what’s pstrike stand for again?
ember yew
perfect strike
tranquil summit
oh dont see that much
spare talon
i see it quite a bit
often on weapons/builds that it does NOT worth with on the randoms i get in auric
ember yew
perfect strike on build without piety -cough- -cough-
stable cypress
pstrike hsword 
spare talon
pstrike hsword <:Sitgryn:1016269420638765107>
no you dont understand
its a hidden meta
trust
tranquil summit
maybe somebody should make a guide with builds in it on here
ember yew
i've seen some normal attacks enthusiasts on hsword
tranquil summit
there isnt much guidance out there
ember yew
probably one of those
fleet zealot
i've seen some normal attacks enthusiasts on hsword
Even light attack spam
stable cypress
nothing is gonna stop randos who don't check guides anyways from making absolutely scuffed stuff
fleet zealot
Has so much cleave
You dont need a cleave blessing
Just go ht deathblow or ht rampage i hate randoms
ember yew
Has so much cleave
they are lazy to do anything vs bulwarks, crushers, maulers
spare talon
there isnt much guidance out there
tbh this chat is the best youre gonna find
ember yew
and just want to spam
spare talon
we fucking love yapping about zealot
fleet zealot
Person coming in here with fucking wrath sweep hswords
tranquil summit
im aware and its hard to compile info tbh
fleet zealot
Cause me to murder
tranquil summit
and its mostly shittalking/memeing on discords
stable cypress
tha emperor's wiffle bat
spare talon
im aware and its hard to compile info tbh
weve all had the idea to make a comprehensive thing for zealot
but its never followed through
tranquil summit
if i have specific question that works but i mean if someone is just lost
spare talon
closes is joshos crusher guide in the pins, but thats JUST for crusher
fleet zealot
they are lazy to do anything vs bulwarks, crushers, maulers
Zealot arguably has the most to go over if a whole guide was made and no one wants to lead it
tranquil summit
or if theres a trap blessing
frosty herald
Gnarp
drowsy steppe
Person coming in here with fucking wrath sweep hswords
Lmao
fleet zealot
We use a lot of all class weapons more than the other classes
spare talon
or if theres a trap blessing
a trap blessing you say?
check the first pin 
tranquil summit
that one is helpful yea
drowsy steppe
We love yapping about laceratw
spare talon
lacerate is one of my biggest pet peeves and im not even a knife main
tranquil summit
do you use the parry catachans cope
drowsy steppe
Yes
tranquil summit
bc i tried that the first time today and holy crap what a shitshow
spare talon
spare talon
bc i tried that the first time today and holy crap what a shitshow
as in good or bad
ember yew
you want me to link that awesome CC+Stunlock Combo sword again?
tranquil summit
i have no armor penetration at all
drowsy steppe
Actually wasn't there a dclaw Parry 1 shot build on crusher or am I just gaslit myself
tranquil summit
bad
lean lark
Zealot doesn't need a guide because it's literally just
spare talon
Actually wasn't there a dclaw Parry 1 shot build on crusher or am I just gaslit ...
you gaslit yourself
lean lark
you have a weapon? Hit things.
tranquil summit
ogryn has one
lean lark
the only thing the guide would say is the correct blessings perks and stats
tranquil summit
its extensive in its hit things advice
drowsy steppe
It be helpful to have one for new players
spare talon
bad
with revolver hc/surg crushers just stop being an issue
plus chastise adm reduction also makes crushers no longer an issue since youre likely going crit with dclaw so its always up
that also applies to throwing knives so you can just kill a crusher with either chastise, or by using your revolver to give it a rending crit
drowsy steppe
The build that allows you to 1 shot ragers on certain weapons
Or why certain things work the way they do
Can't really rely on FS tooltip lmao
drowsy steppe
I'm sure theres some reason for it
I just don't like it
Like
BG3 did tooltips better than FS
Though both games has tooltip that straight up lies
spare talon
killfeed check
drowsy steppe
Parry hype
spare talon
3 ragers in 1 parry riposte is fucking peak zealot
ember yew
June 25 patchnotes: Parry now has a 3 second cooldown and cost 50% more stamina
ember yew
vestal pine
June 25 patchnotes: Parry now has a 3 second cooldown and cost 50% more stamina
tbh id take it if it had infinite cleave and 50% rending
spare talon
tbh id take it if it had infinite cleave and 50% rending
i was saying there should be a blessing that gives your parry 50% rending and 50% power if it was triggered by an elite or higher tiered enemy
like let me go all in on this shit
spare talon
MAKE CRUSHER OVERHEAD PARRIES VIABLE AND NOT A GIMMICK
spare talon
do you use the parry catachans cope
i just now realized this wasnt a typo and its the fact that im still stan-ified
spare talon
?
stan is someone in this chat who consistently seems to never know how to type
so you get this absolutely insane typos
frosty herald
MAKE CRUSHER OVERHEAD PARRIES VIABLE AND NOT A GIMMICK
I mean
spare talon
and i initially thought you were saying i was coping for thinking the dclaw was good lmao
tranquil summit
no i thought that was ur name
spare talon
yeah i literally just realized that like 2 minutes ago lmao
tranquil summit
punctuation wouldve solved this but its late
vestal pine
i was saying there should be a blessing that gives your parry 50% rending and 50...
id take that tbh
hot steppe
any reccommended zealot build for fighting the twins on the secret hard mode?
vestal pine
i wonder if there will be 2handed catachan sword to overthrow heavy swords
spare talon
If you fuck up parrying a cinder block at mach 5 it will hurt
yeah
but theres literally no reason to, the risk is too high of your parry being stolen by someone else and your parry still hits carapace, so unless its a crit, you just wasted your time
vestal pine
any reccommended zealot build for fighting the twins on the secret hard mode?
knife zealot to pop all the mines prematurely and good teammates
tranquil summit
ember yew
any reccommended zealot build for fighting the twins on the secret hard mode?
Piety Knife crit / Uncanny Strike + either Precog/Mercy Killer or even Flesh Tearer
vestal pine
MAKE CRUSHER OVERHEAD PARRIES VIABLE AND NOT A GIMMICK
its viable for what the sword is really
but like
rashad
spare talon
holy shit i regret looking at this random leveling zealots build on the mourning star
hot steppe
Piety Knife crit / Uncanny Strike + either Precog/Mercy Killer or even Flesh Tea...
okay i understand what half of that is
spare talon
vestal pine
wanna see my auraless build
hot steppe
i- what the fresh hell am i looking at
vestal pine
i have one and its great tbh
tranquil summit
he’s leveling the udders
ember yew
okay i understand what half of that is
tranquil summit
udderly based
spare talon
ember yew
basically a crit build with knife allows you to kill a boss solo
frosty herald
Comparable to the 111111 build
vestal pine
hot steppe
basically a crit build with knife allows you to kill a boss solo
i mean that makes sense, do you happen to have a screenshot or something of the perk tree, and or weapons used
ember yew
i mean that makes sense, do you happen to have a screenshot or something of the ...
weapons are on screenshot together with perks and blessing
as for the build i'l try to remember
spare talon
what is this
vestal pine
my build
frosty herald
Looking at the weapons and talents of random players is like opening pandoras box
vestal pine
uses bolter/knife
its somehow good but you can probably take off few points and grab benediction/fotf like a sane person
spare talon
its somehow good but you can probably take off few points and grab benediction/f...
do you
not have a keystone
vestal pine
count the brightened nodes :teeth:
ember yew
i mean that makes sense, do you happen to have a screenshot or something of the ...
i think it was this one
for that specific encounter
vestal pine
thats a bog standard knife build yea
i'd take few points off and get unyielding damage on the middle tree but points be points
ember yew
you dont need unyelding against Rinda and Carnak
vestal pine
oh right twins
spare talon
this is what i use on my knife build
vestal pine
yeah dont take my advice unless you run bolter or smthin
bolter can benefit from that 1 node
ember yew
i mean that makes sense, do you happen to have a screenshot or something of the ...
the main issue that you can encounter is that since you will be focusing ranged one, people could slack on melee boss and you will fck up with shield destruction timing
so need to pay attention to that a bit
ember yew
and since you have an insane amount of move speed with knife, dont forget to clear mines
hot steppe
the main issue that you can encounter is that since you will be focusing ranged ...
my current loadout is a pretty meh eviscarator and a pretty good shotgun
hot steppe
i saw this build earlier, was super fucking quick
vestal pine
but really benefits from a knife zealot who detonates mines
frosty herald
My gunlugger is very funny
vestal pine
i dont like mk6 much now cause i learned its pa is the same damage as the mk3s
no bonus finesse from it being a stab no its sad
ember yew
i saw this build earlier, was super fucking quick
i think the head is a carapace armor, what the hell did that guy tried to achieve
obsidian prairie
I find the mk6 moveset to be better
ember yew
with mercy killer without uncanny
obsidian prairie
I didn’t like it at first but I actually tried it and it feels way better
ember yew
its like picking flesh tearer and go with 5(20 base) crit rate
vestal pine
I find the mk6 moveset to be better
its easier to use for sure
spare talon
the mk6 has better cleave making it not as shit at clearing multiple enemies, and also better at crit cdr because its hitting multiple too
hot steppe
i think the head is a carapace armor, what the hell did that guy tried to achiev...
not a clue, its not an amazing weaponset, let me post the build real quick
vestal pine
the light combo for both its kinda the same from my experience
spare talon
the mk3 only hits like 1-2 enemies per light
vestal pine
mk3 light motion makes you believe it has shit range but its similar to mk6 and only downside is the stab inbetween
spare talon
the mk6 hits many more
vestal pine
the mk3 only hits like 1-2 enemies per light
can hit 3 from my testing, wierd
vestal pine
does similar hordeclear with lightspam bleedout
hot steppe
overall it was a pretty good loadout, he didnt do a ton of outright damage but constantly managed to be moving and staying alive, and did a fair bit of chip damage
ember yew
@hot steppedid you watch an old vid?
there was once a stealth bug
which was abused to clear the twins
hot steppe
lmao, i had copied the build from him
vestal pine
anyway
ember yew
ember yew
lmao, i had copied the build from him
that build has a lot of bs in weapons
vestal pine
so mk3 has similar hordeclear potential as mk6 in terms of lacerate
ember yew
picking mercy killer without uncanny to strike carapace armor is tarded
vestal pine
but heavy is always a singular stab
hot steppe
this is my current weapon set up, i know i need a better melee, (ive been told the shotgun is pretty good) and my curios are still a mess
spare talon
so mk3 has similar hordeclear potential as mk6 in terms of lacerate
but you shouldnt be using lacerate
ever
ember yew
this is my current weapon set up, i know i need a better melee, (ive been told t...
Try to roll a knife with + Carapace + Flak and Uncanny strike 3 (at min)
3/4 is fine
spare talon
if you dont use it, then you can use it
what
vestal pine
mk3 also benefits from not being timelocked from using special-light combo which the mk6 does and mk6 does lowered damage cause idk
ember yew
can be either mk3 or mk6, whatever you like more
vestal pine
what
i meant using mk6
mk6 feels nicer to use still
but unless i run precodnition/mercy killer i think the peak damage just comes from stabbing someone over and over and thats what mk3 does best
hot steppe
Try to roll a knife with + Carapace + Flak and Uncanny strike 3 (at min)
is knife better then eviscarator now? i played sometime late last year and remember hearing that the evsiractor was like the go to weapon
ember yew
is knife better then eviscarator now? i played sometime late last year and remem...
knife is the best single target damage after hammer, but hammer wont do much vs rinda karnak
hot steppe
also what curios should i bhe rocking?
ember yew
also what curios should i bhe rocking?
same stuff as usual
2x toughness % + 1 HP% or 3x toughness
subs:
% toughness
% hp
% gunner resist
hot steppe
is there a good minium toughness/hp i should start upgrading at or
vestal pine
mqx is 17%/21% respectively
spare talon
the max on each is 21% health and 17% toughness
rigid trellis
sniper res goes alright especially in current patch where you get a lot of silent sniper shots
vestal pine
16/20 suffices
spare talon
unless you care about mega minmaxxing, 16 and 20 is fine
the final difference would come out to like less than 10 hp or thp for both
hot steppe
knife is the best single target damage after hammer, but hammer wont do much vs ...
mark 3 or 6?
spare talon
spare talon
mark 3 or 6?
both
mk3 just has a bit more single target damage at the cost of cleaving attacks
but both the mk3 and mk6 hit really fucking hard to the head with their finesse multipliers, especially a headshot crit
spare talon
this is a mk6 knife, and the damage it can output
hot steppe
man i need another event to happen, i just ran out of plasteel
spare talon
i need the new weapons to release
vestal pine
i need the new weapons to release
im broke
spare talon
spare talon
like the punch stab?
ember yew
vestal pine
bleeds all over your table
hot steppe
ugh i hate that progress from gamepass never carried over to steam, i still have to do shocking stuff again
spare talon
bleeds all over your table
lacerate is taking the place of a blessing that could be increasing the already massive finesse damage even more, for a mediocre bleed that only happens when you AVOID said massive finess damage
vestal pine
lacerate is taking the place of a blessing that could be increasing the already ...
none of the mk3's light actually has a pure horizontal swing
you are bound to hit the body, and body hit encourages scourage or whatever that name was
spare talon
you are bound to hit the body, and body hit encourages scourage or whatever that...
scourge has nothing to do with body hits
vestal pine
finesse multiplier precog/bleed wp mercykiller both are great blessings but need that oomph for hordeclear
spare talon
youre still better off hitting the head with hordes
not to mention
flesh tearer literally exists
neon gyro
Did...... did I just roll something good?
vestal pine
scourge has nothing to do with body hits
lacerate does, and without a push from external bleed measures martyr knife doesnt trigger bleed very often
ember yew
Did...... did I just roll something good? <:staregryn:1022085083844325376>
no, but it's 3/4
frosty herald
Did...... did I just roll something good? <:staregryn:1022085083844325376>
Take headtaker off of it
spare talon
lacerate does, and without a push from external bleed measures martyr knife does...
yeah cuz knife is best used when stacking crit in the first place
so going down the piety route is better than martyrdom
quaint verge
vestal pine
idk martyr knife does crazy damage even stronger than piety at times
spare talon
allowing for crits on most of your attacks reliably
which crits on knife
idk id say theyre pretty important
neon gyro
Take headtaker off of it
don't have many options for this thing yet, I just made a zealot a week ago heh...
what do I replace Headtaker with? (and why? + power on hit seems good.. no?)
vestal pine
i'd agree if you go for piety flesh tearer/any damage blessing is better
hot steppe
got 369 on a mk6 knife, now i just gotta pray i get good rolls when i upgrade it
(when i get the plasteel that is)
vestal pine
idk id say theyre pretty important
it is, but scourage can boost the crit rate up to 50% for martyr p sure
spare talon
it is, but scourage can boost the crit rate up to 50% for martyr p sure
it is only 30%
vestal pine
knjfe base crit is like 10 p sure
frosty herald
don't have many options for this thing yet, I just made a zealot a week ago heh....
Nono
vestal pine
either way, the build does work
but if i'd go piety i'd throw away lacerate yea
frosty herald
I meant you take headtaker as in you earn the blessing
neon gyro
I meant you take headtaker as in you earn the blessing
oh 
frosty herald
Since its the only good thing on the hammer and its tier 4
vestal pine
headtaker/thrust is only ones usable on crusis from what i heard
frosty herald
Headtaker slaughterer thrust
vestal pine
kinda wanna do skullcrusher/thunderous crusis build
spare talon
either way, the build does work
but if i'd go piety i'd throw away lacerate yea
scourge itself is also enough bleed honestly
anything that actually realistically benefits from the bleed damage can already be reliably stacks up high with scourge alone
i can, and do, get 16 stacks on things with scourge alone with a dclaw
hot steppe
can you move the scoreboard placement?
vestal pine
scourge itself is also enough bleed honestly
anything that actually realisticall...
it doesnt trigger when its starting, which is why lacerate exists to put bleed up to 16 which bleeds out most enemies
im not saying you're wrong, its just that marty needs that lil boost
dont try to intentionally aim for the body anyway
quaint verge
kinda wanna do skullcrusher/thunderous crusis build
you are going to suffer if you do so
frosty herald
Better off taking flesh tearer then
spare talon
it doesnt trigger when its starting, which is why lacerate exists to put bleed u...
it still comes at the cost of an entire blessing
vestal pine
Better off taking flesh tearer then
doesnt work at all during non-piety
spare talon
which is pretty hard to justify for that when its stacked against a lot of the other blessings the knife can come with
vestal pine
it still comes at the cost of an entire blessing
i would take precog if i had a chance tbh, but they im forced to take flamey
frosty herald
You get extra crit chance with scourge so it snowballs if you have a bloodbag
vestal pine
You get extra crit chance with scourge so it snowballs if you have a bloodbag
without piety to boost first crit flesh tearer just doesnt work
ember yew
Lacerate need either a buff or a rework, a buff will be removing the fact that it WONT stack on weakspot hit, so can either make a choice to get x2 less stacks on non crit hit or more stacks with crit
vestal pine
and yknow whole rng shinanigans
spare talon
without piety to boost first crit flesh tearer just doesnt work
you could take riposte for 20% ADDITIONAL crit, which will allow you to stack scourge much easier too, and having a higher total crit chance in the process
vestal pine
Lacerate need either a buff or a rework, a buff will be removing the fact that i...
i think its fine as is
frosty herald
Giving lacerate a rework like bm could work
vestal pine
you could take riposte for 20% ADDITIONAL crit, which will allow you to stack sc...
beyond 50% i dont see that much point of taking more crits, but yeah i can understand where you come from
spare talon
beyond 50% i dont see that much point of taking more crits, but yeah i can under...
and yet your taking a blessing to get the crits kickstarted?
both greatly help with getting them started, but one gives a greater boost to the knives strength
vestal pine
and yet your taking a blessing to get the crits kickstarted?
because high bleed also acts as a hordeclear tool
spare talon
you really overestimate how much work its actually putting in
vestal pine
because the knife doesnt swing entirely horizontally it bleeds into some of the horde
and thats about it
its nothing doing groundbreaking, its just there really
spare talon
one single light attack out of its 3 isnt perfectly horizontal
vestal pine
one single light attack out of its 3 isnt perfectly horizontal
none of them are aside from the stab
spare talon
the other is horizontal, and the other is a stab
hot steppe
can you move the scoreboard placement?
this bitch keeps coverin my fuckin penance tracker
spare talon
none of them are aside from the stab
???
frosty herald
I have an mk6 knife with uncanny and executor it puts in wetwork
vestal pine
???
used it a lot, somehow its body even if i aim for the headlines
it works for me
only intentional times i go for bodyshots is to clear thick hordes but thats about it
obtuse stirrup
What perks are best on rashad for a martyrdom build?
vestal pine
headtaker brutal momentum
vestal pine
im a idiot
vestal pine
uh i use maniac for mutie/ragers and thats about it
carapace/unyielding has its own benefits
spare talon
Mine is currently flak maniac and I can alter the maniac
i assume carapace cuz rashad kinda fucking chunks em
obtuse stirrup
Martyrdom I guess means you don't need the flak unarmoured perks that veteran does
spare talon
but last i used rashad the skill tree wasnt even out yet
vestal pine
???
anyhoo lacerate is good at hordeclear and thats about it from what i have been using
you can kill, probably even faster for single targets usually
i agree with that
spare talon
anyhoo lacerate is good at hordeclear and thats about it from what i have been u...
i heavily disagree but i have to sleep now lmao
its 430 am at this point
vestal pine
i slept at 5
obtuse stirrup
So Flak Carapace maybe?
I'll test it anyway
first martyrdom game baby
last keystone in the game for me to try
quaint verge
i agree with that
ember yew
Martyrdom I guess means you don't need the flak unarmoured perks that veteran do...
i feel like vet doesnt need them cuz of +30% weakspot damage + base 15 (or 20%) melee damage increase, not counting finesse talents or 25% damage swap ones
tho my vet still on flak + unarmoured rashad since its the one i got on alt for penances
spiral anvil
Vet talents so good
ember yew
im gonna get maniac + carapace/unyelding one later and check how it feels
vestal pine
https://tenor.com/view/misinformation-spreading-spreading-misinformation-online-...
eh
obtuse stirrup
So what is the meta for martyrdom again anyway?
Drop to last wound? One before last?
latent vortex
what do I change on this
hushed knoll
Drop to last wound? One before last?
Oh hey KRIGS
obtuse stirrup
nope
tranquil summit
who's krigs
vestal pine
i heavily disagree but i have to sleep now lmao
heres what i use currently
really a weird hybrid for now
might move on from this again
hushed knoll
who's krigs
@obtuse stirrup
rotund cave
how come the exact same cosmetics are being sold as different cosmetics?
vestal pine
color
oak ermine
how come the exact same cosmetics are being sold as different cosmetics?
It’s the colour, yeah
rotund cave
It’s the colour, yeah
but its a premium currency shop item lel
oak ermine
but its a premium currency shop item lel
Why does this matter? This is normal, sadly, but it is what it is.
hushed knoll
and youre a notorious english teacher
Wtf does that mean 
hushed knoll
Stan just has poor eyesight and cant tell letters apart from each other
ICE WTF COME HERE 😠😠😠😠😠
rotund cave
Why does this matter? This is normal, sadly, but it is what it is.
well they never did this in vermintide2, they would at least swap the colour on reskin cosmetics
vestal pine
..they swapped colors
p sure theres like 1 patch of cloth that was turned into bright ass red
rain wing
heres what i use currently
Interested about why extra dash, which credit ability recharge makes a little redundant, vs damage reduction.
oak ermine
well they never did this in vermintide2, they would at least swap the colour on ...
The scope of the technical/artistic complication has changed, though - it would seem that making only one colour scheme is simply not making the most out of an entire new model being made
And I can’t really blame them, it sells, people want to wear different colours of clothing
compact pelican
whats a good blessing for tigrus mk2
oak ermine
The implementation is garbage, though, that I won’t deny
vestal pine
Interested about why extra dash, which credit ability recharge makes a little re...
just using multiple times is cool tbh, makes it more flexible
granted the cooldown is gonna offset that a lot but still
rotund cave
And I can’t really blame them, it sells, people want to wear different colours o...
right but thats my point, its not a different colour, both cosmetics are exactly the same, with no visible difference.
the only difference is the name
oak ermine
There is visible difference
The original armour has patterns on its cloth
The original armour is slightly lighter shade of metal grey on the armour plates also
rotund cave
oh wow so it does
vestal pine
oh wow so it does
cloth color change
outside of armor looks p sure
is it a shameless reskin? yes
is it still looking cool? yea
rain wing
granted the cooldown is gonna offset that a lot but still
yeah when I’m gooning on 5 hp and proced I always need the dmg reduction, but having an extra fotf is pretty cool, martyr attack speed does make it less necessary tho
rotund cave
until the cloth pattern was mentioned i genuinely could not tell the difference
vestal pine
yeah when I’m gooning on 5 hp and proced I always need the dmg reduction, but ha...
might change it again to get the right side +25% melee damage to kill bosses even quicker really
rotund cave
the only reason the metal colour looks different is beacuse one is being viewed in the shop and one is being viewed in my inventory
vestal pine
but for now its how i use it
quick light/heavyspam to dispatch anything
dualist is usually enough to kill stuff in 1~2 heavys
even then the biggest thing the build is going for is stun/toughness regen from fotf spamming
left iron
ICE WTF COME HERE 😠😠😠😠😠
No
rain wing
even then the biggest thing the build is going for is stun/toughness regen from ...
Yeah I struggle with toughness away from the horde unless I go loner and that’s too expensive.
But that’s why you just gotta always dash ahead.
quaint verge
Stan just has poor eyesight and cant tell letters apart from each other
And poor food taste
And lots of hatred 
drowsy steppe
obtuse stirrup
How important is twbs these days anyway
I'm thinking of taking it out of my martyrdom rashad build
I've got laspistol with ghost for antiranged anyway
I can invest 3 points into invocation of death potentially
ember yew
I've got laspistol with ghost for antiranged anyway
not important if Ghost involved
tranquil summit
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lean lark
how come the exact same cosmetics are being sold as different cosmetics?
no bro you can tell its so much more different. its like slightly changed color and uhh and uhhh
pay me 500$
and its yours my friend
tranquil summit
how come the exact same cosmetics are being sold as different cosmetics?
efficiency. also they want to sell a thing that's similar to popular thing, obviously.