#zealot-class

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ivory marlin
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@sterile stone i dont work tomorrow id be down for some hunt before i go to a baby shower

open pollen
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I misread that and was very concerned for a second

spare talon
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first encounter of this new d2 raid was actually brutal, mechanically

ivory marlin
ivory marlin
spare talon
ivory marlin
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Damn

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No ones beaten it from what i know

spare talon
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Oh you meant the raid

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I mean first encounter lmao

indigo harbor
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Hey, looking for a team to try the Secret Hard Twins mission

maiden path
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so does anyone wanna play dark and darker 🥺

tranquil summit
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whuzzat

open pollen
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Remind me, does precog trigger on any dodge or just the ones that dodge a bullet/swing

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I assumed the latter

hushed agate
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1st person

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Might be thinking of wrong game

maiden path
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no ur right

hushed agate
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K

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Seems neat but no pc

maiden path
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wtf

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how u typing then..

hushed agate
hushed agate
tranquil summit
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most people phone it in

maiden path
hushed agate
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Fake these nuts

maiden path
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fake

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doctored image

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inspect page and mobile

hushed agate
spare talon
# ivory marlin Damn

I can send you a replay I took from our cleared run in a bit
It's only 2 minutes out of the 12 but you can see how demanding of an encounter it is

ivory marlin
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Yes please

left iron
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Why do i have to think where im going

obtuse stirrup
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Is that the mmo simulator gameM

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?

left iron
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Ya

obtuse stirrup
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Frog and something

hushed agate
spare talon
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but everyone else is basically saying callouts and stuff the entire time
and none of it was filler, all of it was useful

maiden path
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why dat boy got an art15

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ik u freaks love this

open pollen
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I think I found my favorite Strom. Ranged Scab faction mostly.

hushed knoll
hushed knoll
left iron
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Hello feral child

maiden path
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HOLY SHIT I CAN BE A FURRY

celest quail
maiden path
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dude my characters feet slap the floor

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i walk around and it goes 'shlap shlap shlap'

sinful widget
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This guy needs to be fed to the poxers

maiden path
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i died 2 6 spiders

fleet zealot
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the devolver digital show

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was absolutely

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insane

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i feel violated and creeped out 10/10

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HAPPY BIRTHDAY VOLVY

median steeple
median steeple
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yea

spare talon
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literally at second encounter
first set of adds kills me in less than 1 second, literally

median steeple
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yeah most teams are stuck on 2nd it seems

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being locked at 1965 with 1990 enemies must be fun

ornate bone
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melk coughed up rampge 4 today lets fucking go

stable wing
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Should I change Specialists to Unarmored or Flak?

vestal pine
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idk what this color mod is but it looks cool

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idk how to feel about decimator cause if you miss once you're back to square 1

stable wing
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yeah, but it's the best I've rolled so far lol

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I want headtaker eventually

vestal pine
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decimator can reach better damage output so thats what im mixed about, in theorey its damage potential is higher than headtakers
anyway, depends
i value maniac cause as a zealot you need to squable with ragers and muties from start to finish

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any 25% damage variants is worth it in its on right for rashad, go nuts

stable wing
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sounds good lol

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Ideally I wanted unarmored/flak

sterile stone
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Me and el boyos are playing Lords of the fallen

opal star
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Has more use cases overall than unarmored and any enemy that's unarmored will probably get one-shotted anyway

stable wing
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sounds good

maiden path
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OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOGRE

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this games hard as a bitch solo

fleet zealot
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DUngeon meshi is so fuckng good

fleet zealot
hushed agate
# fleet zealot DUngeon meshi is so fuckng good

I keep hearing about it and its got me so confused because i feel like it popped out of nowhere. Same thing with that "lobotomy corporation" stuff. I imagine this is what it feels like to be old

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Cant keep up

maiden path
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@frosty herald titus gets to fistfight a carnifax

median steeple
hushed agate
maiden path
fleet zealot
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it was big in japan for a manga but until something gets an anime (or past parts get an anime) it doesn't explode in the west

fleet zealot
opal star
hushed agate
maiden path
fleet zealot
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falin got that bi rizz cause shuro proposed to her within hours of meeting

maiden path
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no elf sexo

ripe quest
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Sometimes I forget that this chat has depraved people in it.

maiden path
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finally able

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to use that mp4

fleet zealot
hushed agate
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There are no exceptions

fleet zealot
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i mean look at her

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she got that autistic swag

opal star
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grown ass woman

fleet zealot
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authentic

maiden path
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what the fuck would this mean?

fleet zealot
ripe quest
maiden path
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increases its duration 3 times?

fleet zealot
maiden path
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does it mean 3x8

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or does it mean 3x8 3 times

opal star
fleet zealot
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or like +3 seconds

maiden path
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hide is usually 8 sconds

maiden path
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so 8x3

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26?

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i cant do math

fleet zealot
maiden path
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i passed math with a 61

maiden path
ripe quest
hushed agate
ripe quest
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HELLLOOOOOO??????

maiden path
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i also had to do summer school for math

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i cant do math

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i can do math i mean

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i cant remember it

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thats the issue

hushed agate
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Thats my aura working

maiden path
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i cant be bothered to remember the exact formulas

fleet zealot
maiden path
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i still cant do matrh

fleet zealot
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ahahahaha

maiden path
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i think my gpa was like 2.1 when i graduated

fleet zealot
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what's 3*8
uhhh 26?
you stupid

opal star
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smartest tsb player

maiden path
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im so happy regan just lets everyone graduate even if they're stupid

maiden path
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thank u 'no child left behind'

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oh its 24

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FUCKER I WAS TWO OFF

ripe quest
fleet zealot
maiden path
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2 off blew up the challanger though

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challenger

fleet zealot
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you don't get points for being close to the correct measurements

fleet zealot
maiden path
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i was in class using my fingers

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i had no shame

fleet zealot
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People DIED there

maiden path
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wasnt it like 30 years

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ago

ripe quest
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He can't do 8 * 3 I'm not exactly confident in his ability to calculate the loss of life.

maiden path
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i dont think they're tossing and turning in their grave

fleet zealot
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you going to hell straight down all layers satan ain't even going to touch u

opal star
vestal pine
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its suprisingly hard to reach

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smh

maiden path
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i dont think they would mind

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astronauts probalb understand the risk

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why is troll face here

tranquil summit
fleet zealot
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need to ask one of the chad testers

vestal pine
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i think marty reached it barely without unarmored

fleet zealot
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elf inspection

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or well, elf inspectors

vestal pine
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Hot ELF Inspection

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zealot needs more melee i swear

hushed agate
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I want a power fist badly

fleet zealot
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tbh besides like, dualies of various weapons and 2handed chaxe i don't feel we need much

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are we getting shockmaul?

vestal pine
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and im aching for more

hushed agate
vestal pine
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still funny to me zealot gets invalidated the moment vet pulls up power sword and goes for melee build

fleet zealot
# hushed agate Yes

yes but specifically for zealot or will it be another shared weapon i meant

vestal pine
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probably shared, 1hand
but no info on that so wait fro devlog

hushed agate
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I cant see it being exclusive tbh

vestal pine
hushed agate
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Jfc

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Why

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I have trouble filling out 5

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😭

vestal pine
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genuinely need more melee weapons theres not much variation i cant make more than this aaa

tranquil summit
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play ogryn

vestal pine
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i filled him out too

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also vet cause his melee lineup is great

tranquil summit
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do melee psyker

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DS, illisi

hushed agate
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Scriers mk2 duel sword is peak

tranquil summit
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NO staff

vestal pine
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i have illisi gunpsyker i run melee on and standard dualsword 4

tranquil summit
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pfft

maiden path
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hell yea boys

hushed agate
tranquil summit
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your DT settings suck

vestal pine
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melee psyker is def weak out of the bunch even with the added benefit of the best gun user

maiden path
hushed agate
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Oh

fleet zealot
vestal pine
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it is

fleet zealot
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besides like, the ogryn folding shovel that can 1shot 4 crushers

vestal pine
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but the guy holding it can fall over from a sprain in the ankles

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give to zealot and it'll probably be unstoppable

fleet zealot
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yea i couldn't imagine ds4 with 30%-54% attack speed and duelist

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🤤

vestal pine
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mk15 evi, mk3 knife, ironhelm hammer, crusher, mk4 catachan, mk4 chainsword, rashad, mk7 tactiaxe, mk12 chainaxe, mk8 achylis combat axe, crusis hammer(i dont use this), mk9 heavysword, 3 more mk3 knife builds and one empty slot

vestal pine
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basically exhausted almost all options rn

vestal pine
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i did use it

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in same slot as mk12 chainaxe

maiden path
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they made bison look too cool

fleet zealot
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mk4 chaxe can use punishment while punishment doesn't benefit mk12 as much

vestal pine
tranquil summit
fleet zealot
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yee you get an mk4, swap thrust with slaught and weakspot with anything else

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it's a relaly dumb spam heavy build with occasional push attacks, and using lights and rev'd heavies for horde clear

vestal pine
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feels like actual fencing

tranquil summit
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but it's a mob of Chaos hordelings!

vestal pine
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only gripe about it is that i cant shoot infinite pistol shots like victor did

tranquil summit
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assail

vestal pine
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while holding the melee i meant

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i want a 1h melee + 1h ranged option as a usable thing for all non-ogryn classes

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like a laspistol + catachan sword or something

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anyhoo

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i have all my axe builds have a pistol variant

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its kinda wierd to use both zarona revolver with throwing knives

obsidian prairie
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I get a 379 on a good weapon from an Emperor's Gift and its so fucking bricked

maiden path
vestal pine
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i mean perk seems fine

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get like shred and wrath and you should be good to go on catachan hordeclear

ornate bone
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still usable if u put good blessings on it

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the perks arent useless, just not optimal

obsidian prairie
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It has been obliterated

vestal pine
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aw.

ornate bone
obsidian prairie
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Mostly because it make me irrationally angry for some reason

ornate bone
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should have saved it incase the crafting update makes it redeemable

vestal pine
obsidian prairie
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Far too late, gotta rip it for the useless blessing

vestal pine
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devastating strike is so pathetic

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perfect strike exists lolz

maiden path
fleet zealot
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MAD comic parody of M. Bison combined with M Night Shyamalan

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call it M. Bison Shyamalan

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i'm a comedy genius

thick inlet
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Got a pretty dang good rolled Zarona that gave me this when I upgraded it. I assume I should use my 2 swaps to put Surgical and Hand Cannon on it, over swapping out Infested Enemies with Elites?

thick inlet
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Cool

fleet zealot
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Infested does suck but imo the blessing combo will do more with the guaranteed crit and rending

thick inlet
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Would have preferred the other Perk to be a bit better

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Infested is basically just Poxwalkers right

fleet zealot
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Yea basically only matters for dogs

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Poxwalkers already get downed when you shoot through them anyways

minor sage
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on your computer

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very useful skill to have

thick inlet
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I know how, but this was faster lol

fleet zealot
thick inlet
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I'm on console

fleet zealot
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Ok countering my counter point

thick inlet
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Lolol

minor sage
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console plebs

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get out of here

thick inlet
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Oi

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Thats some heresy you're spouting, varlot

fleet zealot
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My brain communicates via ideas parrying each other

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And what gets out is what gets out

maiden path
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ping pong brain

thick inlet
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Regardless, got that after only 3 purchases from Brundt, so I'm pretty satisfied with what I got despite it being like one step from being perfect

fleet zealot
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Yea i used to at least be able to mask and talk like a normal/weird but intelligent person but after getting shelf’d i just

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It’s like a constant qte

thick inlet
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You're constantly doing a button mash to not spout something

ripe quest
maiden path
thick inlet
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Oh shit, my new Zarona one shots Scab ragers on a crit, Emperor be praised

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My old one left them with a hair of health

fleet zealot
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Lol beb and the 3*8=26

ripe quest
ornate bone
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what is the most fun class and why is it zealot

north sedge
maiden path
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thats my rebuttal

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once again

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messiah of the new age

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gonna come out of my goon cave like jesus coming out of his tomb

drowsy steppe
zealous mesa
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i have decided that putting unarmoured on my catachan sword was a better idea than flak

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thought it might not work well but it does

sterile stone
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Take this man to scab only auric maelstrom

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Show him the error of his ways

zealous mesa
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i did

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and it worked

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because i aim at the head of scab bruisers

drowsy steppe
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you can like

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1 shot scab bruisers without requiring unarmored

sterile stone
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It's when the ragers show up

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That's when your butt cheeks clench

north sedge
ornate bone
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would

fleet zealot
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This gecko

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Got a gecko

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Vtuber pet meta really taking off

fleet zealot
stable wing
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Swap Unyielding for Flak, Decimator for Headtaker?

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or just swap both perks to flak/unarmored for the bruiser oneshots

fleet zealot
fleet zealot
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Dont need unarmored

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We can get enough easily from talent tree

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Higher cap for less consistency

stable wing
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Oooo ok

fleet zealot
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I’d go flak and change deci to t4 or ht is fine too

stable wing
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I usually play vet and have to take unarmored

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Ok haha

fleet zealot
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Decap if you are truly insane

stable wing
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Tru

fleet zealot
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Yee

stable wing
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LOL

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Awesome thanks man just wanted to make sure I didn't brick it

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Is there a good build to run for Rashad?

fleet zealot
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Decap outscales deci and ht but it requires you to keep oneshotting to keep the buff up

fleet zealot
stable wing
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I have one with decap on it I should try it out lol

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Nice! Ok that's the one I've been running

fleet zealot
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Martyrdom you go wound curios and you can get more power but it’s a risk reward gameplay

stable wing
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Tru

fleet zealot
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Plus, martyrdom path has the worst cdr option and you never take it so you have to be comfy without spamming abilities

stable wing
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Is it worth it to take a skill point away from the movement speed/always dodging skill for the +10% attack speed skill?

fleet zealot
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I for one would always take attack speed

stable wing
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Got it haha

fleet zealot
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Just cause attack speed stat is strong ast

stable wing
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I was running without attack speed and I was like I'm in slow motion noooo

fleet zealot
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And slide spamming can extend our stam meter

stable wing
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The strongest move

fleet zealot
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Fotf has 20% attack speed just has a buff 10 seconds after use

stable wing
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Rashad is now.....fast

fleet zealot
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This is why we dont have dueling sword

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Iirc martyrdom can hit 54% attack speed with rhe other 2 previous buffs mentioned

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At one wound tho with fotf buff active

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But imagine that

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Psyker has no attack speed buffs

vestal pine
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but if theres a psyker with AoE on your team good luck getting any stack

fleet zealot
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But it’s funny

median steeple
visual stream
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Is shout not supposed to stagger BoN anymore or something

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Or is that a new consistent bug

south folio
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it's never staggered bonbon i don't think

vestal pine
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and uh

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its decent

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at times

median steeple
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BoN can only be staggered by a few things no?

visual stream
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It's weird because krak staggers it but not shout, yet shout has better stagger than krak

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Like shout will stagger a burgled plogryn but a krak won't

south folio
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bonbon has usually always not been staggered by things that the otherbosses are typically staggered by

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e.g., unable to be staggered by ogryn slap and all that

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or chorus

visual stream
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Ohhh

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Fuck bon

south folio
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😔

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all my homies hate bonbon

vestal pine
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bon is wierd

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i think he's stunned by huge damage which krak meets criteria of

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otherwise only the ogryn charge

ornate bone
leaden pebble
ornate bone
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do u get the reference

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please

leaden pebble
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unfortunately no

ornate bone
south folio
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typically the dash would end when you collided with your locked on target but you killed it before that could happen + it ran forward from its initial position so you just ended up dashing back to where the bruiser originally was at when you initiated the dash

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at least this behavior is consistent with what i'm seeing in the meatgrinder

ornate bone
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interesting

full nebula
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best mk2 laspistol blessings?

ember yew
rocky marsh
full nebula
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seems decent

ember yew
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And you can always slap Ghost on it if you want more utility

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Ghost basically makes reapers, gunners and others ranged useless, as long as you are quick with hitting heads

placid fiber
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Aka: Useless in my hands lol

vestal pine
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does anyone actually use raking fire

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cause like

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only probably works on beast of nurgle

ember yew
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that's a bit of extreme, it works in a lot of situations

vestal pine
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it only works when the enemy is facing the other player or otherwise stunned and seems quite weird to use it that way

ember yew
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  • you arent the only one in the team who holds agro
  • almost every special tend to run away and show its back
  • every boss that aggroed to your teammate
  • there more and im lazy to type
placid fiber
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He's right

vestal pine
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i can agree on the specials but havent seem uch of other secnarios

placid fiber
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You're in the thick of it, you don't always see it

ember yew
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there's even a bonus ranged backstab damage in the loner tree

placid fiber
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^

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I never take it, but, it is there

random adder
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why is it that bigger animals are more likely to be dosile like elephants and blue whales and smaller animals are insane like bugs ?

placid fiber
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elephants are not always docile >.>'

still quartz
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Because small man syndrome

random adder
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is napoleon complex just a regular on biological organisms ?

still quartz
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The smaller, the scarier the world seems, the more ferocious you will be to compensate

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Exhibit A: CHIHUAHUAS

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OVERSIZED RATS

placid fiber
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I mean something bigger than you would make you try to fight for your life

still quartz
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Also Napoleon was average height for the time, so really it's not his syndrome

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insert nerd emoji here

placid fiber
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barked at everything

visual stream
still quartz
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Yes, you're right

still quartz
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Even the Skaven are more civilized

random adder
ember yew
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actually i bet helldivers 2 was inspired by EDF

visual stream
placid fiber
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Elephants are smart mfs, they remember shit

still quartz
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Excpet Rachelle from accounting

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Forgets everything

placid fiber
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I mean

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Obviously

ornate bone
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doggest 370 roll ever

still quartz
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I'm just tossing shit in the wind, I don't even know who Rachelle is

random adder
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meanwhile blue whales are bigger than tanks and they are just water himbos

visual stream
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Elephants are one of the only non-domesticated animals who are intelligent AND aren't evil

random adder
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and water bimbos

visual stream
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Do you know how many intelligent animals are just assholes?

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The answer is too many

placid fiber
visual stream
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Almost feels like there's some correlation

placid fiber
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intelligence does tend to make them assholes >.>

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That's why I am glad for my singular brain cell :3

random adder
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"hurr durr I'm just a big guy I swim swim swim. I could eat a white shark but I'll settle for eating water ants don't mind me"

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does being at the top of the food chain inherently make you an idiot ?

visual stream
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You open your mouth at almost any given point and you get food with little effort

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Chad

random adder
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since once you are too big to be afraid of anything else you can just exist without a care ?

visual stream
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Crows are one of the only other smart cuties, wanna get a crow as my first tattoo

placid fiber
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aren't crows also assholes? >.>

random adder
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or is it because your blood has to reach so far into your big body that you get less oxygen in your brain so you are constantly content ?

random adder
placid fiber
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Makes sense

random adder
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if you ignore them they ignore you. If you are good to them they bring you shinnies

visual stream
placid fiber
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I can respect that

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I've never bothered a crow, so I guess I've never had one retaliate at me

visual stream
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They did a test where the same person had a fake dead crow prop with a mask on, then came back later without the mask and they didn't know it was them

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But they put on the mask again and they go wild

placid fiber
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I mean being an asshole to animals is kinda rude >.>

visual stream
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Animals should be allowed to punish stupid humans for being stupid

random adder
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it's astounding to me that blue Wales havent gone out of food despite how much they need to eat per day

visual stream
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Alas, gross human supremacism usually gets the animal killed instead of given berries or sm

random adder
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krills be fucking

vestal pine
ember yew
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And part of that also relies on players skill and positioning.

placid fiber
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I mean if I had to choose between raking fire and ghost, I would choose raking fire due to my poor aim x.x

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Headshots are hard for me lol

ember yew
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i wouldnt pick Ghost if i was playing on console

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as example

placid fiber
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I'm on pc, but, bad aim is still bad aim lol

ember yew
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tho idk how good aim assist on xbox is

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well its good when alternatives exist

placid fiber
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I've never really been a believer of aim assist, tbh

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but I am also not a console gamer

ember yew
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i checked some vids and it was hilarious

placid fiber
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Ugh, pvp... x.x

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I hate pvp

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Even when I win it isn't fun for me

placid fiber
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I've always disliked pvp, but, that's grown to full on hatred over the years

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That's why I stick to single player/pve lol

vestal pine
ember yew
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You should try Ghost, it's insanely OP blessing for Auric/Maelstrom since there's abundance of elite gunners/shotgunners/reapers

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Ghost also allow to proc Duelist non-stop

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ramping laspistol critdamage and weakspot damage even more

vestal pine
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ghost works with dualist, huh

vestal pine
ember yew
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agripina8 braced is a good one to start

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dont try to roll Columnus V, that thing has like 14 blessings

vestal pine
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but i do have a good one

ember yew
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imagine rolling something with 14

vestal pine
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colum has 9

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either way still quite annoying to roll

ember yew
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10* but yeah

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well by the end of June we will (probably) hear details

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about upcoming crafting rework/improvements

vestal pine
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annnd nvm its 10

ember yew
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there's a lot of people that absolutely despise the crafting RNG nature, but i'm not sure if it will help when it will arrive way too late

vestal pine
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only good colum i have

ember yew
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those are iags, but nvm good rolls, esp on 1

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in braced ags case, especially with 8, it can penetrate up to 3 targets per one bullet

ember yew
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making it literally destroy everything

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apart from carapace and bulwarks (bullet bounce)

vestal pine
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problem is i forgot to take a selfie of it

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darnit

ember yew
vestal pine
ember yew
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damn that mobility looks really painful

vestal pine
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this is how i call out DT RNG bullshit

vestal pine
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stab is annoying but not the worst one to dump on i guess

ember yew
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well for braced it wont make a difference

vestal pine
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my 60 stab was fine so i assume its fine as well

vestal pine
ember yew
#

a bit more important for Columbus XXV since that thing is swaying like crazy if you spray

ember yew
#

like one micropixel godknows where

vestal pine
#

i forgot to show my laspistol dammit

ember yew
#

just dont use resources on laspistol mk10

#

after it got nerfed its not worth it (to waste resources for essentialy same results)

lusty oar
#

show my nuts

ornate bone
vestal pine
#

what was nerfed

ember yew
#

as mk2

#

but it required precise timing/taping

#

something like Fullauto mod didnt work for that

#

only manual inputs

vestal pine
#

ah

#

eh

south folio
#

was there a different bug besides the ads and hipfire having a different fire rate with the mk10?

ember yew
#

i only know about the one that relies on the timing with tapping

#

so probably there was only one

#

i forgot if that worked for hipfire or not (since most of the time i use ADS)

placid fiber
#

What'd I miss while trying to lay back down?

ember yew
#

some talk about how lazy FS is

south folio
#

e.g., this is the only one i recall about it

placid fiber
#

Ah

vestal pine
#

i think its fine

#

mkx

placid fiber
ember yew
#

just that

#

"Slightly faster"

#

was not "slightly" at all

placid fiber
#

Was it like double the rate of fire?

ember yew
#

yeah or even higher

placid fiber
#

Damn

ember yew
#

it was really close

#

to mk2 fullauto spamming

#

just a bit slower

placid fiber
#

o_o'

vestal pine
#

lmao

placid fiber
#

Meanwhile fatshark was like: Players -> (>x.x(O-(-_-Q) <- Fatshark

ember yew
#

i wonder how Bolt pistol will end up

placid fiber
#

Either awesome or horrible

#

Fatshark is bad at the inbetweens >.>'

ember yew
#

at least they did a much better job in DT compared to VT2

placid fiber
#

True

#

It either was amazing, or it kinda sucked

#

Still... learning how to deal with hordes with the elven axe was a good idea, considering I sometimes take random melee weapons

#

I think I legit deal with hordes better with the elven axe, than I do with the spear...

#

I just can't find the rhythm with the spear

#

I learned how to use the elven axe while sister of the thorns was still op >.>

vestal pine
placid fiber
#

I mean, like I said 50 50

vestal pine
#

cant go wrong with that

placid fiber
#

Probably leaning more towards the neg

#

Then again look at what they did to the revolver, compared to what it used to be

ember yew
#

and that's fair

#

since it's annoying af

ember yew
#

tho maybe another nerf or two will come

placid fiber
#

I am talking at the start

#

When it was a lot more mid

#

Useable? Yes, but, it was a lot worse than it is now

ember yew
#

isnt the same goes with the autopistol

#

which is average at best rn

#

but was godlike before

placid fiber
#

iirc it sucked, then got buffed, then got omega nerfed

ember yew
vestal pine
vestal pine
#

it used to do that and it was def awesome back then

placid fiber
#

I've seen so much happen to weapons in Darktide lol

ember yew
placid fiber
#

Also that's legit be me too on that stump

#

Straight into da drink

vestal pine
placid fiber
#

Oof

#

Sad, but, true

ember yew
#

stagger increase is probably Crusher fault

vestal pine
#

probably

#

but bulwarks got megabuff as well so

#

possibly that

ember yew
#

well at least they also got mega nerf

vestal pine
#

yeah

ember yew
#

in terms of shield hit boxes

vestal pine
#

good thing they did

ember yew
#

it was so stupid before

#

not matching the actual shield

placid fiber
#

It was like a 180 degree block

ember yew
#

yeah

placid fiber
#

I remember that shit lol

ember yew
#

well it was like what, 3 weeks ago

placid fiber
#

I mean yeah

ember yew
#

now it feels much better

#

especially for special rev oneshots

vestal pine
#

it feels natural now

#

instead of

#

m a g i c

ember yew
#

when you could hit awkward hitboxes before

placid fiber
#

That shield was legit the hardest thing to deal with as the last player alive, sometimes

vestal pine
#

i mean it still is

placid fiber
#

Boxed in with 2 shields and 2 maulers

#

x.x

#

One time had a bulwark, 2 crushers, and a mauler on me

#

while a trapper was out

#

as the last person alive

#

I then showed the players the power of the Rashad with Martyrdom, lol

#

"I've been meaning to get an axe" I think someone said

placid fiber
#

Think I cornered myself so I could guarantee where the trapper was coming from, that time

vestal pine
#

sad

placid fiber
#

uh... all builds are sorta glass cannon

placid fiber
#

173, iirc

vestal pine
#

damm

#

100 toughness sucks

placid fiber
#

Yeah

#

My marty build is not as fragile as some people's, but, that's because I perform better with more toughness rather than with more damage talents

#

duellist is great, and all, but that extra +15 toughness node helps

#

and I've tried with and without it. I actually do a lot better with the extra toughness

#

Then again my marty build has my autopistol as well, which has inspiring barrage

frosty herald
#

Dies from peak

placid fiber
#

It does suck, I just have use for it on that build specifically

ornate bone
#

is revo just the best gun for melee zealot

placid fiber
#

Revolver is good in some people's hands, I'm better with the brauto

ornate bone
#

idk what that is

placid fiber
#

agripinaa braced autogun

vestal pine
placid fiber
#

let me double check

vestal pine
#

anyway

#

100 toughness zealot is literal glass cannon

#

which is what i use for every marty

#

if toughness goes to like 170 you're real safe imho

placid fiber
#

I do better with a safer build

#

iirc it's my 2nd zealot that has the good marty curios

#

sorry, 172 toughness

vestal pine
#

but

placid fiber
vestal pine
#

i would def like that yea

#

230 health jesus what you packing

placid fiber
#

I grab a 2nd toughness perk* at the top

vestal pine
#

2 thoughness huh

placid fiber
#

Then it's just my normal build

vestal pine
#

looks normal

#

sad no dualist but i can probably get a single point off marty to get that

placid fiber
vestal pine
#

no though regen? hmmm

placid fiber
#

The corruption resist is just a test iirc, I usually have health

vestal pine
#

i think no toughness regen speed on you is the most suprising part on this

placid fiber
#

Why would I need it? It only affects coherency regen

vestal pine
#

it does but i stay in the coherency long enough to matter for me and my playstyle

placid fiber
#

Literally have this if I need toughness in an emergency

vestal pine
#

smart

placid fiber
#

since that can regen up to your full bar of toughness in 1 mag

#

I'm not a glass cannon by any means, as far as toughness goes

#

I just like the extra safety

#

Is it overdoing it a bit? Yeah. Does it help my playstyle, specifically? Yes

placid fiber
# vestal pine smart

Like I said earlier: I do not recommend the autopistol by any means, I just use it for that specific build

uncut pivot
#

how do you check crit rate?

placid fiber
#

I mean you can check in the meat grinder, otherwise know the base crit and the crit bonuses you are taking

placid fiber
# vestal pine its fine

I mean I specifically would advise against taking it, since it does not bring what some people need. I am a panic gamer, so it is great for me

vestal pine
#

it can still kill decent bht inspiring barage regen is definitely interestinf

placid fiber
#

it regens more the longer you hold the trigger

#

It should, technically, only do ~80% of your toughness

#

but it does all of it

vestal pine
#

p sure it regens in 4%->8%->12% unto 20% and then continue to regen 20%

placid fiber
#

Yeah, that's what I meant by more

vestal pine
#

magdump should get every bit of your thoghness back

placid fiber
#

there's only 6 15%'s in 100%

#

4, 8, 12, 16, 20, 20

#

but it does 4, 8, 12, 16, 20, 20, 20

#

in less than the full mag

vestal pine
#

i was skeptical of taking toughness cause you lose the base attack speed you get from revanant but after the momentum nerf ifs definitely viable

placid fiber
#

huh?

#

More toughness doesn't make you lose attack speed

vestal pine
placid fiber
#

Oh you mean that

vestal pine
#

which gives me +20% attack speed, previous best on momentum

placid fiber
#

dude you never want to aim for the full marty buffs

#

You have no room for failure then

vestal pine
#

but after momentum got nerfed i can sacrifice 1 stack

placid fiber
#

I only aim for 3 stacks, myself

#

Some of the better players can get away with taking all of the buffs

vestal pine
#

i go for 5 cause thats where holy revanant gets you

#

and then stay alive for 2 mins and repeat

#

but i think your build does have an... idea that is really great

placid fiber
#

I don't rely on holy rev being there to keep me from dying, I try to avoid the death in the first place

#

I have vt2 experience of avoiding all hits

#

if possible

vestal pine
#

i dont see the point of fearing death, but i try to qvoid dying outright yea

placid fiber
#

I don't fear death

#

I fear having to rely on randos

vestal pine
#

eh

#

fair point

placid fiber
#

and also clutching is one of my specialties

#

probably the main thing that keeps me near the top %, as far as players go

#

I wouldn't hold a candle to the players who play every day, in my current state, tho lol

#

I'm rusty af

vestal pine
#

anyway

#

very cool idea

#

might use it

#

ty

placid fiber
#

It specifically is built around survival >.>

#

Can't do damage if you're dead, hehe

#

np

#

btw if you do take something bad against armor for your ranged, do take something good against armor for your melee

#

I take the rashad/thammer/eviscerator/chain-axe if I am going to do my marty build

#

Oops, nearly made my kitty jump out of her skin xD

#

She lept like 3 feet almost instantly when I startled her

vestal pine
#

best alternative is headhunter autogun which is way slower

placid fiber
#

With how randos are you never know when you'll have to clutch x.x

#

When you get a good team of randos it feels great to finally be able to relax a little

#

when you get a bad team... You just try your best to pick up the pieces

#

thankfully damnation randos are generally better than malice/heresy randos

placid fiber
#

The bolter at dealing with armor? or the draw speed of the bolter? lol

#

I don't advise the headhunters against armor, generally speaking

#

by armor I mean super armor, aka carapace, or tons of flak targets

#

which I guess the headhunter's main weakness is maniac...

#

I always like a way to deal with crushers, cause having to heavy sword em is so slow... T_T

vestal pine
placid fiber
#

😉

vestal pine
#

l o l

#

anyhoo

#

its slow

placid fiber
#

bolter is clunky yeah

vestal pine
#

wish zealot had more anti-armor options

placid fiber
#

Same

vestal pine
#

less about clunky, just about i dont wanna use same guns for my build

#

or same melee for that matter

ember yew
#

maybe 4+ if they line up perfectly

placid fiber
#

I mean you can bring whatever melee you want, if you can learn to deal with carapace

vestal pine
#

forces chatisise

#

its so good that others kinda fall flat at times

ember yew
#

yeah

placid fiber
#

my clutch build uses shroudfield, the heavy sword, and a brauto

vestal pine
#

how do you deal with crusher swarm then

placid fiber
#

slowly

vestal pine
#

sounds painful

placid fiber
#

special + heavy 1

#

I don't take that build much anymore, tbh

#

That or chastise + brauto

#

wait...

#

my clutch build doesn't* have chatise...

#

😭

vestal pine
#

then you can spam braced so yeah

#

i guess its fine

placid fiber
#

Doesn't* lol

#

Didn't notice my mistake

vestal pine
#

ah

#

anyways painful

placid fiber
#

tfw it's 4 in the morning and you have nothing to do besides annoy your wife, who's trying to sleep... cuz you don't feel like gaming at the moment...

#

I'm trying really hard to let her sleep, but, I can't sit still right now x.x

compact pelican
#

any good builds that uses Chorus of Spiritual Fortitude?
i suck when it come to notice whats good and whats bad and build

placid fiber
#

There are, but, I don't use that career skill

#

so sadly I'm not much help x.x

compact pelican
#

ok_cat what are you using then

placid fiber
#

I use chastise on most of my builds

limpid wraith
#

Is the crusher or the thunderhammer better? Both are 2 handed blunt weapons with a charge ability is there a difference

placid fiber
#

Crusher does an aoe that staggers enemies, thunderhammer does big damage to elites/bosses/specials

#

crucis it is the 1st target hit, ironhelm will cleave through trash

#

They are very different weapons. Generally I would say the thammer requires a bit more skill to use, as far as the skill floor goes

limpid wraith
placid fiber
#

Jump x.x

#

That's all I can really say, tbh

#

You can mitigate some of that

#

with skill

still quartz
#

Or use Ironhelm

placid fiber
#

^

still quartz
#

Just learn how to use its basic moveset better

#

Not difficult

#

Thankfully

#

Otherwise I'd be gatekeeping it very hard

limpid wraith
still quartz
#

No one gets to use my intellectually high-IQ demanding weapons except me because I have an inferiority complex

placid fiber
still quartz
#

cough

limpid wraith
#

So a TLDR: crusher for hordeclearing, thammer for focusing single targets?

still quartz
#

Yeah the Thunder Hammers are single-target damage gods and Crusher is for crowd control

#

You choose based on fluidity and whichever feels better

#

You wanna control a horde or do you wanna delete that one guy you hate?

placid fiber
#

Personally I like the thammer, but, there are perks for every weapon

limpid wraith
#

I was playing with knife zealot for a long while and i was just getting a little pissed at the fact it does like 2 tiddlywinks of damage so i was thinking of another build

still quartz
#

Ironhelm my beloved

#

Damn why does everybody play Knife Zealot first

#

Must be the speed

#

Everyone hopped up on speed notlikedis

placid fiber
#

I used knife when I got lascerate for a bit, because it was my best melee at the time

still quartz
#

Yeah the Knife ain't gonna do much unless you run Uncanny Strike at least

placid fiber
#

sadly it was as good as my eviscerator was x.x

#

This was way back when in december of 2022

still quartz
#

Ah the old 322232 talent "tree" builds

limpid wraith
placid fiber
still quartz
placid fiber
limpid wraith
placid fiber
still quartz
#

Knife is just good for being fast as fuck

#

The rest are mediocre at best

#

I remember Crusher being so ass no one liked it until the buffs

#

Then now everyone's praising Crusher as their god

#

Bunch of posers

placid fiber
still quartz
#

I was there when Special Light spamming with Crusher was the meta

limpid wraith
still quartz
#

Sounds about right

limpid wraith
#

I now switch from thammer to crusher depending on what i feel like

#

Thammer if i feel like shitting on bosses

still quartz
#

I joke about Knife being ass but really if you run an actual Crit Bleed build with Invis on Knife, you can do more than most claim it can do

placid fiber
#

I mostly do rashad, since that's what I know x.x

still quartz
#

Granted you aren't gonna be helping carry through Auric missions

#

But every person I find who runs Auric missions daily are a bunch of sweats anyway

#

You are not sitting with the sweats unless you smell like them

#

Damnation is fun enough

#

Heresy if you're feeling like you want a power trip

#

Sedition for true hardcore gamers

placid fiber
#

It takes skill to stay awake when it's that boring lol

limpid wraith
still quartz
#

Sounds about right

limpid wraith
#

I loaded in and it was already like that

placid fiber
#

Sounds about right

still quartz
#

Yeah randoms in Auric is just a mess

limpid wraith
#

I mainly play ogryn because luv me rock 'ate me eretics simple as

still quartz
#

I'm a Zealot main but I dabbled into the other classes

placid fiber
#

^

still quartz
#

Stealth Helbore Lasgun Veteran is my fav

placid fiber
#

I mean... I have 4 zealots >.>

still quartz
#

I can't imagine hurting myself like that

placid fiber
#

I have 1 of each class as well <.<'

still quartz
#

That I can imagine

#

Cause I do too

limpid wraith
#

My zealot is just called "hobo" and looks like an old guy with a scottish accent

#

I wear the default prisoner gear at lvl 30

still quartz
#

You'll never catch my Zealot without some sort of mask

#

I'm edgy like that ya feel

placid fiber
#

I change my get up every now and then

limpid wraith
#

All of the zealot premium masks look like they would be used for some other purpose

still quartz
#

Please give us more half-masks

#

I actually pick the gas masks the most

limpid wraith
still quartz
#

But all my fashion is inferior to the people in #darktide-driptide

neat drum
#

Guys I like zealot

still quartz
still quartz
#

You're taking up all the meditating space

limpid wraith
still quartz
#

No rations for you

placid fiber
still quartz
#

I'm rusty too

#

But tryharding like that on a daily doesn't feel right for me

#

Who tf am I impressing at that point

#

Myself isn't enough

#

I must seek the adoration of the commonfolk

limpid wraith
#

Absolutely thundercunting a fully charged crucis thammer into the back of a groaner

placid fiber
#

I just play to have fun

still quartz
placid fiber
#

To hell with impressing people

limpid wraith
still quartz
limpid wraith
#

HOW DARE YOU HAVE FUN IN THIS GAME INTENDED TO HAVE FUN IN IT

placid fiber
limpid wraith
#

I almost always play damnation now

still quartz
#

My fun is hopping into Damnation and getting the rare honor of being called "you play like a fucking menace Kal" by a random

limpid wraith
#

Occasionally lower difficulties to help newbies because im nice like that

placid fiber
limpid wraith
#

You will be turned into a servitor

still quartz
#

Your punishment

#

Is playing

placid fiber
#

is sedition...

still quartz
#

No no

#

Worse

limpid wraith
#

The servitor that works in a warhammer store

placid fiber
#

low int sedition...?!

still quartz
#

Even worse than that

placid fiber
#

Dear God...

still quartz
#

You are relegated to

#

Gun Zealot

placid fiber
#

😭

limpid wraith
#

The horror

still quartz
#

with AUTOPISTOL

still quartz
#

No damage, eat all the ammo

limpid wraith
#

Whats a good range zealot weapon btw

#

Whats a good g u n

still quartz
#

The Autoguns

ornate bone
#

how come psyker players are all cringe and smelly but zealot players are all hot and sexy

still quartz
#

Revolvers

limpid wraith
#

To fit crusher at least

still quartz
limpid wraith
still quartz
#

So you can run a couple things

#

Bolters, or Revolvers

#

Pretty decent

limpid wraith
#

Ok so either one

still quartz
#

Or if you're running the Fury of the Faithful skill, any gun will do

#

Just use Fury of the Faithful before blasting down a Crusher

frosty herald
still quartz
#

Actually tho

#

That thing is fucking nutty

#

2-shot Scab Snipers even at lowest effective range

still quartz
#

My only source of dopamine in this game

limpid wraith
frosty herald
limpid wraith
#

So i assume revolver or bolter

still quartz
#

I'd say run Revolver

#

Bolter is very slow

#

Buuut you can run Bolter if you don't mind trhe slowness

limpid wraith
#

My bolter has pinning fire on it

still quartz
#

Cause you can just gun down range

#

It's not even Pinning Fire

sacred vessel
#

why do i have to do this again