#zealot-class

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spare talon
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Just make sure you're far enough ahead of nezzy so he doesn't suppress you as you're going across the gap, you'll fall to your death

zinc talon
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yeah really

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surprised the terminally online blue hairs haven't made darktide hoods their next crusade

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thiscaterstothemaleinterest.meme

spare talon
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Sleeper+div+shotcaller and one celestial got him down below half if everyone alive
The issue is getting ammo for the next phase
If you get good ammo, it can be a two phase
If not, easy 3 phase with riven kill points
@median steeple

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2 surges well and shotcaller was 115k per hit

median steeple
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yeah I assume riven points make the timer irrelevant, yeah?

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But I mean fuck it we'll try sleeper

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havent used it since forever

spare talon
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It hit like a truck

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Did not expect it

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Div ran ceno for extra ammo but still only gives 1 shot even with scavs

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Also I think d2checkpoint has a rhulk cp on week 4 so if you lose the cp for whatever reason
Can just cheese him, kill riven, then be back for a 3phase nez

median steeple
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yeah im holding a riven checkpoint just incase we need to back out for any reason

spare talon
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Riven is honestly a joke if you have a capable team for it

median steeple
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yeah seeing how they barely changed her and she melts during dps

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its crazy

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welp time for Fo4 since gambling on darktide rn isn't appealing

spare talon
plucky sparrow
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is flesh tearer even good on knife?

drowsy steppe
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flesh tearer is the blessing pick when you're able to proc crits constantly. Take Scourge and Piety keystone

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Lacerate doesnt do any notable damage on a non critfishing knife to even justify having it, since you're killing things faster stabbing than what the bleed damage can do.

spare talon
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Lacerate is a worse fleshtearer that requires you to avoid the knives 2.5x to 3x headshot damage multiplier for a bleed that is not actually good as you think

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Fleshtearer is viable with lots of crit like Mal said, since with scourge, 1 crit is 10 bleed on a target you already chunked to the head

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And uncanny allows you to be safe and bleed a crusher pack to death in addition to just obliterating their health with 100% rending heavy headshots

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This is also on top of crits having the same multipler (both at once making you deal like 5-6x damage) as headshots so stacking crit is already great

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Those multipliers are also why a riposte/precog knife can kill a boss in a few headshots due to the massive 60% finesse bonus (plus duelist)

drowsy steppe
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@spare talon Will you repost what you just wrote but in just 1 single post over a different one. Was gonna ask a mod to pin it lmao

fleet zealot
north sedge
spare talon
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Lacerate is a worse fleshtearer that requires you to avoid the knives 2.5x to 3x headshot damage multiplier for a bleed that is not actually good as you think (see attached bleed table)
Fleshtearer is viable with lots of crit chance (piety, scourge), since with scourge, 1 crit is 10 bleed (scourge is 2 bleed) on a target you already chunked to the head
And uncanny allows you to be safe and bleed a crusher pack to death since rending applies to bleed, in addition to just obliterating their health with 100% rending heavy headshots
This is also on top of crits having the same multipler (both at once making you deal like 5-6x damage) as headshots so stacking crit is already great
Those multipliers are also why a riposte/precog knife can kill a boss in a few headshots due to the massive 60% finesse bonus and duelist giving 50% weakspot and crit damage, both on dodge

drowsy steppe
spare talon
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Added more detail like what duelist does, rending affects bleed, that scourge is actually 2 stacks, etc

austere grail
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I personally miss headshots with knife a lot

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I wonder what the average weakspot hit % is

plucky sparrow
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what kinda blessings would i want on a flamer again?

spiral anvil
drowsy steppe
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Overpressure is the 2nd best blessing but last I heard its still bugged.

north sedge
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Still no worky

thick inlet
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This a good roll and worth buying?

sterile basalt
thick inlet
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Also got this in Melks shop too

austere grail
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Burn needs to be 76 :(

sterile basalt
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U specifically want high burn stat

thick inlet
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Ah gothca

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Why 76?

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What Blessings do people usually put on it/what I should be looking for in Melks shop to turn in

spare talon
thick inlet
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So 16 instead of 14

spare talon
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And each stack deals exponentially higher tick damage

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I think max is actually 15?

thick inlet
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Stats on mine say highest is 16

spare talon
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Cuz what shows on that subscreen is with 100% stats

thick inlet
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Ahh

spare talon
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Unless you have a mod to show the actual available max

thick inlet
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Nah I'm on console

spare talon
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But still

thick inlet
spare talon
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Each stack makes the damage exponentially higher

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So that one stack makes a difference

thick inlet
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Yeah I get it

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What Blessings should I be looking for in Melks shop?

spare talon
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Or you should be able to just see the base damage of the attack and look at the armor screen and do the math there

drowsy steppe
spare talon
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So it would benefit you to just look at all of the blessings for any weapons you might wanna make and take note of them

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Also really helps to know what blessings only come in t3, like blaze away

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Many a people have lost too much plasteel trying to find a t4 fletchette blessing for shotguns

median steeple
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Super human ass

spare talon
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Not knowing it was t2 ONLY

royal vortex
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the forgis

median steeple
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I hope they add more T2 and T1 blessings to fuck with people

spare talon
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Those are all melee weapons tho, not gonna go into ranged weapons cuz that's not entirely my area of expertise besides revolver lmao

thick inlet
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Lmao same

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(probably) last question, did one yolo pull from Brunt’s armory and got this with 78 Burn, would this be worth upgrading?

spare talon
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But your melee weapon is honestly the thing you care about most on zealot so

thick inlet
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Agrippa my beloved

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Yeah

spare talon
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It's mobility and damage that you don't need

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Everything else you want high

thick inlet
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Ah shifting the goalposts now lmao. First it was 'Only burn matters' now its cloud too XD

spare talon
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I mean burn is the most important yeah lol
But I wouldn't upgrade something with another important stat that low tbh

thick inlet
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yeah yeah

drowsy steppe
misty mason
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So, the event is live right?

drowsy steppe
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yes

thick inlet
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Yeah

spare talon
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Cloud radius affects range iirc?

misty mason
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Cause I can see no evidence of it in game

thick inlet
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Its basically get headshots/decaps

south folio
thick inlet
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Hold select to pull up your penance/Contract thing, then tab over to the Special Event one

spare talon
misty mason
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riiight

spare talon
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Idk how you console players do it man

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I tried with a controller
It was like I was trying to walk for the first time

thick inlet
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I manage

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I've been Console for decades

spare talon
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And I am generally comfortable on controller, if it's not pvp

thick inlet
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I'm like that with PC

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Feel like I'm an old man trying to do keyboard and mouse

spare talon
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I mean I play like I'm coked up and controller doesn't allow me to do that
So I just perish

thick inlet
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Also I'm on a gaming laptop thats a couple years old, so performance can be a bit of a crap shoot for me

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Especially with newer/more hi res games

austere grail
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Do u know the low texture LOD trick

sterile stone
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You just gotta do the Arco method

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Turn every texture into playdough

austere grail
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Yes

thick inlet
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lol

sterile stone
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Instant 300 fps

austere grail
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Thats what i do

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For 40 fps

drowsy steppe
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Ive bear witness to Arco's amazing craftsmanship in gaining more FPS

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Exhil also does it

sterile stone
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Man cools his entire laptop with a duct tape fan infront of his laptop

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Truly a engineer for the ages

spare talon
rose lava
spare talon
north sedge
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One of my finest works, credit to mankar for asking me to make it

austere grail
north sedge
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Dunno arco or exhil would know

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I simply photoshopped arco's screenshot for that

austere grail
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I must go potatoer

spare talon
fleet zealot
zinc talon
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oh naw he don bite

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him naym bobbeh

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gi'm lil skritchy underchin

fleet zealot
ivory marlin
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Bazinga

spare talon
zinc talon
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I'm contacting the ICC

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pretty sure forcing someone to play with those specs is a crime against humanity

fleet zealot
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soup too good ferret brain explosion

zinc talon
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almost more than doubled my then-high score in helldivers last night

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and yes it is scientifically proven only kills while the combo counter is up matter

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that little look around at the end amuses me now that I can rewatch it

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they stopped coming, so I steal a glance, nope; check my map, yep I killed everything after me; turn to see where teammates are, I actually had to dodge the entire map distance fighting all that they're on the other side; shoot at ships M AN I DONT WANNA RUN BACK TO THEM

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heh

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anyway

frozen kernel
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I have a friend that I somehow consistently synchronize with in games and I’ve got a funny clip of us in Helldivers

zinc talon
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oh before you begin

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I have an announcement for the entire room

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chargers have huge titties in a carapace brassiere

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that is all

fleet zealot
frozen kernel
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My data is taking a while to load streamable

zinc talon
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heh you're good

frozen kernel
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I think it’s that one

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Not close enough to the McDonald’s building to steal their delicious bandwidth and watch it myself

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But I love that we both just give the dead scavenger a smacc

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Also the synchronized weapon swaps were hot

maiden path
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ok

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found out how to leave big mountain

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without beating it

ivory marlin
maiden path
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i just give myself the item that lets u leave it eheheh

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am genius

normal quail
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Is this shotgun any good for zealot because I bought this at the armour exchange only because of the insane numbers

spiral anvil
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You need two specific blessings to make it shine

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Manstopper, scattershot

normal quail
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manstopper is what I want

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I am going to fully upgrade this and see if I can get lucky

spiral anvil
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Good luck but manstopper is notoriously difficult to get if you are max level

normal quail
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At least I got scatter shot!!!

ornate bone
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You like stopping men, don't you

normal quail
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lol

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anyways, is manstopper one of those stupid ones where you need to be level 15 or so to farm it?

spiral anvil
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Yes

ornate bone
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If it's a tier 2, yeah kinda

normal quail
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ugh...

spiral anvil
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Or just melk and armory and be lucky

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Why aren't you lucky!!!

fleet zealot
fleet zealot
frozen kernel
maiden path
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but also

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i dont wanna

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enemies are tanky so im going to grab the all american

fleet zealot
maiden path
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fuck yea

fleet zealot
maiden path
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do not take advantage of my lingustics

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bitch

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!

undone pewter
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You watched the starter guide

proper gyro
pale spindle
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wait a minute

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skulls?

north sedge
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yea like the whole warhammer skulls day or whatever its called

undone pewter
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Yeah skulls is right.

It used to be called skulls for the skull throne but I guess they thought it was too Khorne...y? Pun... a little intended.

ivory marlin
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I meant to only buy 1

ornate bone
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send me one

kindred ivy
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This can be a fantastic 3/4, surely?

sterile stone
kindred ivy
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Wait nevermind I think the Milkman's got me

brave cypress
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friends and i have become atomas elite guard with the help of JOHN CONSTANTINE

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praise be to a helpful kindred

ivory marlin
sterile stone
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This bout to be you in a minute

ivory marlin
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Nah see im not weak

sterile stone
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Mans gonna get all his internal moisture turned into a desert

ivory marlin
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Watch ima be fine

frozen kernel
# maiden path fuck yea

Oh shit All American with regular 5.56? Yeah that explains why you’re struggling with the scorpions lol

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If you use OC ammo or pulse slugs you just dumpster them like geckos

ivory marlin
sterile stone
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This man is a domestic terrorist

tepid raptor
ivory marlin
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Nah

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My mouth still moist

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Yall im so hydrated you dont even know

tepid raptor
ivory marlin
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I could down 20 of them mfs and be chillin

tepid raptor
ivory marlin
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On god

tepid raptor
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On god you are not human

ivory marlin
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Nah i just drink a shit ton of water to compensate not eating much

tepid raptor
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I can’t imagine how much water you drink

ivory marlin
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Ive almost died from it twice

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I use to be able to chug a gallon in under 10 seconds

ornate bone
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Oh Christ, Reddit is having another case of "let's shit on the community manager"

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Can't have shit in Atoma

ivory marlin
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Damn

ornate bone
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Granted I went on a bit of a hiatus since uhhh 4 months ago, I have serious doubts about the sanity of people who look at one problem and start spouting "Fatshark doesn't play their own game"

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Because to my memory, an overwhelming amount of the game we have today is a straight improvement from the launch state

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The cosmetic reskins for actual money is a fucking dog shit move, but they can't look at stuff like the vet tree and zealot crusher rework and just say Fatshark isn't trying something

sonic totem
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I think it's less so that fatshark doesn't know what they're doing, and more so that they're running a fine balance on how much they can get away with and how much they need to drip feed the community

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Feels like an abusive relationship at this point =-='

ornate bone
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That is a valid grievance people have

sonic totem
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I mean, I don't expect them to give us the world. They're a for-profit company after all

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But like, I just wish things were better

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In terms of communication at least. Would love to know what kinda battles they're having with Games Workshop to include content for the game

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Maybe it's all under NDA, idk

ornate bone
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It's just the sentence "Fatshark doesn't play their own game" makes me wonder if these people genuinely believe everything good with the game was just a complete coincidence or accident

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As if Fatshark was so grossly incompetent that the only way they were capable of doing something good would be by pure cosmic alignment and nothing else

sonic totem
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Yeah, credit where credit is due, they can make a hell of a game

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People wouldn't get pissed in the first place if the base game was doo doo

ornate bone
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Yeah

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If anything, we see a lot of potential in Fatshark

sonic totem
ornate bone
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They know their shit, though unfortunately so do the people pulling the strings, and their shit is money and player retention loregryn

sonic totem
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I'm will say though, after the penance update, I'm really happy the next one is coming so soon

ornate bone
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Fucking ooga booga FOMO on Melk like it was an MMO rotation shop

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They know people are coming back to check on the next timegated rolls

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They know The Craft™

sonic totem
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But I can't say much since I've unlocked most blessings. As a new player, Melk would probably cause a lot more FOMO

ornate bone
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Me on my way to gamble grandma's retirement fund on Melk's mystery rolls

sonic totem
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It's ok, average life expectancy in darktide isn't above 30 anyway

ornate bone
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We can only go above 30 with mods chadgryn

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After we reach 30 years, we start talking in French math, like 30+125

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We bend the world so that we may live in French

zealous mesa
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you can two shot most specialists at range with a good setup

normal quail
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at this point all I am trying to do is get manstopper

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probably will take me weeks lol

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cause all I am doing is lookjing in the shop every hour

spare talon
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someone explain

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this doesnt line up

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oh my god it gets worse

warm phoenix
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Another auric storm survivor run ended at 4/5 MAN

balmy olive
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I love that he actively put gloryhunter on it

balmy olive
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It's pretty funny if you get those two

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I should use my agrapina shotgun again

hidden vessel
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It is 2 380 weapons tho

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What exactly is the problem

ivory marlin
balmy olive
ivory marlin
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What if i made a character named office inkjet pro some numbers or whatever your name is

balmy olive
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I should do that wait you're cooking

hidden vessel
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I mean I can feel hammerblow being off, but probably thinks the break points on the gun and the extra toughness is better then reliably killing crushers

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Not that I use revolvers or that sword.

spare talon
balmy olive
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I don't understand why he left specialists on the sword to put hammerblow ngl

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LOL

hidden vessel
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One has a bad blessing.

spare talon
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like glory hunter is good, but he also has handcannon on there, which means that gun can be AMAZING if he uses surgical

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like why would you do that

balmy olive
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Are toughness replenishing blessings actually good on zealot?

hidden vessel
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Felt like they needed the toughness more, and can always just switch it to surgical. Idk I'm not them but I can see a reason.

spare talon
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also wrath is just a worse savage sweep
and rampage also gives enough power to be usable on its own

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and hammerblow on a sword is just ????????????

hidden vessel
balmy olive
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Oh yeah my mistake

spare talon
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but yeah this is a vet

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who tbh
doesnt really need the toughness regen anyway

balmy olive
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I wanna see his talent tree

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Tbh

spare talon
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confirmed kill, the other headshot one, and the shout are just

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really strong

hidden vessel
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Mhm

balmy olive
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Vet just kinda go crazy

spare talon
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idk why he is actively gimping that revolver for a bit of extra toughness

balmy olive
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Maybe he needs it

hidden vessel
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That's probably the reason

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Just for toughness

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The sword is what makes no sense

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The gun is fine

balmy olive
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It's like when you queue into an auric with a vet with 4 wounds

spare talon
hidden vessel
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They might have the aim down sights increases crit chance.

balmy olive
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Deadshot skull emoji

hidden vessel
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I didn't say it's good

spare talon
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deadshot kinda ass imho

hidden vessel
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It's a justification

spare talon
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i guess

balmy olive
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No I'm not saying you have to defend it

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I was just saying that LOL

spare talon
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one is 25% the other is literally ensured lmao

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so if thats the case
yikes lol

hidden vessel
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I literally don't know there skill tree

balmy olive
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I've used it before but with the mark thing that gives stamina back

hidden vessel
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And I am always disliking the sword

balmy olive
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Then it's ok

hidden vessel
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But I can see the gun being usable but suboptimal

balmy olive
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How do people remember the different catachans anyway

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They're all just sword to me

hidden vessel
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There's differences?

balmy olive
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Yeah the moveset

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That's why there's different marks lol

hidden vessel
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Don't use 1 and don't care after that ig

balmy olive
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I gotta make a new tac axe build actually

balmy olive
hidden vessel
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😔 made me remember 8th edition catachan army

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I miss it

balmy olive
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Oh a tabletop playa

hidden vessel
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Ye

balmy olive
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I'm sorry for your PTSD

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😔

hidden vessel
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Tho honestly, I don't think I like how those swords feel

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Too... soft for me

balmy olive
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They definitely struggle against armor

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But you know that's what you have ranged for

hidden vessel
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Flamer 😔

balmy olive
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Oh

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Lmao

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Uh

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Pray then ig

hidden vessel
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Exactly

balmy olive
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A true zealot

hidden vessel
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Genuinely never use my ranged weapon lowkey. I only use it vs monstrosity and even then half the time forget to and just evisorator them anyway

spare talon
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but i quite literally main the mk4

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i know one of them has horizontal lights and a horizontal H1 and overhead H2
mk 4 is horizontal lights and a overhead h1 and horizontal H2
and the other one has mostly overhead lights and both horizontal heavies

balmy olive
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Oh that's why your name is parry enthusiast lmfao

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I just put that together

spare talon
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thats me

balmy olive
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Your emotes give mental instability vibes but I respect that

polar nexus
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tldr: gamers dumber

hidden vessel
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Reminds me of that nightmare game

balmy olive
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Yeah it gives me like horror game feel

hidden vessel
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Can't put my thumb on it.

balmy olive
hidden vessel
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Happy game that's jt

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The horror game happy game is what the vibe of those emotes is giving me

minor sage
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the "becoming less popular" part seems misguided

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from what it feels to be, gaming is simply becoming bigger; while certain slices of the population stay the same

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so now you have 30 year old women who only play candy crush, and 20 year old chinese neets who only play genshin impact as part of the demographic

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and obviously they're not interested in strategy games

polar nexus
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hmm did not think of it that way tbh

hidden vessel
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I'm waiting for something that can fill the hole that blizzard killed when remastering war 3

minor sage
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in general gaming is just becoming a more mainstream hobby

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whereas in the past, it was strictly reserved for turbo nerds

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it's becoming more and more accessible to more people

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like kids, women, dads etc

zealous basin
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BLOOD SCYTHE USER IN MY LOBBY

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he doesnt know...

minor sage
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so you get games that appeal to everyone

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minecraft for kids, candy crush for women, diablo4 for dads, etc

hidden vessel
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Appeal to all means better capital gains.

balmy olive
# spare talon

is this after they fixed the shit where parry would only block the first time a rager swung lol

misty mason
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How bout that space marine 2 trailer tho

frosty herald
short dew
spiral anvil
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Implying that casual RTS players are smarter by doing 6 supply zergling rushes KEKW_ogryn

polar nexus
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my current and younger friends play some rts games, me i am not

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last time i did somehting notable was to finish ff tactics on ps1

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i am mostly playing fps / rpg / arpg

frosty herald
wheat matrix
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Stay winning

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man this looks great

frosty herald
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Omw doing the hardest difficulty mission with the thunder hammer primary

spiral anvil
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Hard mode chadgryn

frosty herald
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I thought it was just going to be the campaign

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Not even a pve mode and pvp mode

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Armor and weapon customization look insane

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You already know chapters will be dlc

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But i dont mind

raven crane
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sick of always being blueberries or blood angels in games where you control space marines, but its cool that you can customize the squad to not look like that at all.

frosty herald
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If they have charcaradons or malevolent marine paints i will die from peak

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The thunder hammer is also a primary since i didnt see any other weapon on the marine wielding it

solar gorge
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need the guys on every poster

drowsy steppe
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nerd

wheat matrix
wheat matrix
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I ask, as a blood angels player myself

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also it's likely due to the fact that the first game was following an ultramarine too

sinful widget
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if u purchase a 3000 cp bundle

raven crane
ivory marlin
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Guys

wheat matrix
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hu interesting

ivory marlin
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My computer shit itself so hard i thought i was gonna have to buy a new one

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It was screaming and almost like backfiring when booting and the boot took 5 minutes

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Than it said it shat itself than showed me diagnostics

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But

raven crane
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it got nurgle'd

wheat matrix
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bro's computer got scrap coded 💀

ivory marlin
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My audio problems are fixed now

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It shat itself so hard most issues it had are gone

ivory marlin
ivory marlin
wheat matrix
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scrap code?

ivory marlin
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Im tired

wheat matrix
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the thing hereteks use to corrupt machines?

ivory marlin
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Oh

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Lol

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No it said it got POSTed in safe mode

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Or smth like that

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But i haven’t turned it on in over 2 days so idk what that could have meant

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Fun times

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I might upgrade soon

raven crane
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the machine spirit in it is angry

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better get some incense and pray

ivory marlin
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Need thinking about it anyways and if this starts happening as offten as the other weird “quirks” its been having might as well

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Why tf did ive been autocorrect to need

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Bruh my phones having a stroke too

raven crane
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im telling you, thats the machine spirit giving you hints.

ivory marlin
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Why is it mad at me

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I aint do jack shit to it

raven crane
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i wouldnt know, i dont speak in zeros and ones yet.

ivory marlin
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I can count binary on my hand and translate 5 bit but thats it

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Most shit doesn’t use 5 bit tho

sonic totem
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I know this is random as fuck

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But the Shiba Inu from the Doge meme died recently, at least from what I'm reading on news

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Today is a very sad day

polar nexus
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indeed

raven crane
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he lives forever in the internets.

obtuse stirrup
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She, apparently

spiral anvil
#

Doge

tribal estuary
#

whats the crushers dmg profile like compared to mk15 evicserator

runic grotto
#

What do I do with this flamer?
I don't need it perfrect, I just need to it clear hordes with my combat blade mk3 which has bleed and uncanny

tribal estuary
#

get rid of showstopper

#

its useless lol

runic grotto
#

yea

#

But for what

#

blaze away or overpressure?

#

And what perk do I get

#

if I use a stealth zealot with knife

tribal estuary
#

blaze away is the only good one left

#

its dot so hordes wont die so fast

#

it just takes time

#

and u dont need to keep applying fire dot to kill a horde so its better to like spray it for a few secs then switch to the knife

runic grotto
#

And what perk do I get?

#

Unyielding? Maniac?

#

I for sure don't need carapace

#

And blaze away is the only good blessing it seems

#

Reload speed perk is nice

noble scroll
#

Id take lacerate and mercy killer on a momentum knife but flesh tearer mercy killer on peity knife. Flamer can get blaze away, overpressure etc unyeilding goes a long way

#

Fan the flames is an okay blessing for stagger too

runic grotto
#

Imagine this has t4 uncanny and some other good perk

#

I also have this, I run it with revolver

#

but I wanted an uncanny knife with flamer

noble scroll
#

I like mercy over uncanny as its straight up just more dmg, and a lot more dmg

#

Rending to my knowledge is armour penetration

runic grotto
#

I know

#

I already have mercy knife

#

And revolver for armor

#

Now I want knife for armor

#

And flamer for horde

tribal estuary
#

for flamer perks

obtuse stirrup
#

Rending is armour penetration, yes. It can also go above 100% effectiveness but at a reduced rate

#

Mercy killer only applies to the weak spot bonus part so it will be more like +30-40%

#

Rending is way better for Carapace and Flak helmets

#

And it will also buff your flamer

#

You can set everything on fire then swap to the knife and get Rending stacked quickly with some light attacks

#

Throwing knives inherit uncanny too

ember yew
#

not using uncanny is heresy

obtuse stirrup
#

Lacerate is just awful

#

You don't want to rely on getting non weakspot hits

runic grotto
#

It's fine. I've played a lot with this knife

#

But I feel like it's missing something, the synergy is not there

#

That's why I wanted a new knife

obtuse stirrup
#

I'm sure you have, but that doesn't change the fact that lacerate is shit.

left iron
#

Its missing blessings, thats whats what

runic grotto
#

It's not THAT bad

obtuse stirrup
#

I mean I'd rather have it than an empty space

#

I'll give it that

frosty herald
left iron
#

Uncanny/riposte/flesh tearer/precog are all better than what you currently have on it

obtuse stirrup
#

But I can't think of any blessings I want less

#

Dodge blessings should have near total uptime in combat

#

And uncanny is basically overpowered

runic grotto
#

Also, what does swift certainty do?

#

I am still getting shot while sprinting

left iron
#

You cannot be shot by anything while you're at 0 stamina while sprinting perpendicularly from the shooters

#

Just like normal sprinting, but also at 0 stam

gleaming hawk
left iron
#

FT is better than either of those blessings

obtuse stirrup
#

Prefer flesh tearer to lacerate by far

#

It doesn't want me to hit the non weakspots

#

And knife has a 15% crit bonus

left iron
#

It plays into knifes strengths high finesse and you dont ever want to bodyshot with the knife

obtuse stirrup
#

I run blazing piety on top of that

gleaming hawk
#

While true, you're inevitably going to bodyshot at times

obtuse stirrup
#

And my first hit out of shroudfield always crits too

#

Yes but I can crit on those too

gleaming hawk
#

Lacerate is a very clear and easy way to ensure bleed whereas Flesh Tearer is a maybe

obtuse stirrup
#

So changes nothing for flesh tearer

left iron
#

Oh no, not my near 100% crit chance, it sure is inconsistent

obtuse stirrup
#

Plus a lot of targets die in one hit anyway

gleaming hawk
left iron
#

While true, you're using a knife without playing into its strengths at that point

obtuse stirrup
#

Non crit knife builds though?

gleaming hawk
#

Even if you are stacking into crit with a knife, you can run an inexorable judgement build instead of blazing piety

left iron
#

Yes, you can. And you still have 60% crit chance without piety

#

Just with scourge

#

You can get it to 80 with riposte

gleaming hawk
#

Sure.

gleaming hawk
#

Bleed stacks very quickly either way, and the tradeoff is consistency. Lacerate isn't maximum potential efficiency but it's going to be consistent and reliable versus Flesh Tearer. I guess you bring up a good point that crit is rather easy to stack on the knife so as to make Lacerate pretty low value when compared to Flesh Tearer.

left iron
#

Bleed also is a terrible damage source, as was stated yesterday, here have some numbers. The real value you get out of bleed is the stuff it enables like, on zealot, more crits with scourge woah, shocker , CDR and TDR

drowsy steppe
#

nerd

left iron
#

I stole it from Exhil, who stole it from someone else i think

#

Asyn?

quaint verge
#

sounds about right

obtuse stirrup
#

Bleed knife enjoyers just have a fixed idea of a build concept they like the sound of

#

And are unaware of, or ignore, the evidence that all the numbers for it are shit

left iron
obtuse stirrup
#

At least uncanny flesh-tearing makes the bleed not get negated by armour

ember yew
#

Darn, Space Marine 2 copied World War Z progression, perks, prestige, etc system by like 98%

thick inlet
#

What was it like in WWZ?

ember yew
#

Not too much variety, you pick meta-perks for max difficulty

#

some classes has a bit of choices

#

but most of the times there's was none

#

a lot of stuff was garbage

#

prestige perks are also a joke

#

and insane time sink unless you cheat exp

#

The same bad customization options

#

3 prestige perks at first

solar gorge
#

same devs no

ember yew
#

yes

misty nova
#

Yup

ember yew
#

and i have a few hundred hours in WWZ

#

so i can clearly see what will be there

#

esp after these screens

solar gorge
#

well maybe they improved over wwz

#

no way to tell until the game is playable

thick inlet
#

^

gleaming hawk
thick inlet
#

I’ll reserve my judgment until then

#

If the game feel is good/feels like 40k then I’ll be satisfied

ember yew
#

well wwz is certainly fun, but its not something like darktide where you can sink 1000 hours and still enjoy it

solar gorge
#

my biggest concern is that the game will end up extremely poorly optimized as of right now

ember yew
#

WWZ hordes are well optimized, even XXL ones

#

should be fine, probably

#

XXL hordes are the special update (new mode) which arrived for PS5/PC

#

you can check the last 4 waves

#

but overall its really smooth (even at 144 fps)

solar gorge
#

we'll see

#

warhammer games have this curse

#

when it come to running smoothly

frosty herald
#

40k is obv different to wwz

#

Gameplay alone is miles different

ember yew
#

the gameplay was basically an improved version of that existing in WWZ

#

from what they showcased

#

i'm more concerned about melee, because in WWZ it's shit, since it's autoaim to the nearest target and there's a lot of problems with that (with its target priority)

frosty herald
#

My guess is like batman combat or gravitate towards a cluster in the horde/biggest enemy

thick inlet
#

I would think they’d improve it for 40k since melee is much more of a thing in it, along with one of its most recognizable weapons being the Chainsword

ember yew
#

yeah, i hope they improved it

frosty herald
#

Or its an overhauled melee system

#

Cause you do have parrying and dodging

thick inlet
#

Idk if they’d do a Batman style combat since Nids are more swarm like than “wait for an opening and attack” like Arkham does

#

But there is Chaos SMs so it could work for that

drowsy steppe
#

I am simply waiting until Scalp pinned Cole's message that I asked him to

#

so finally I can just say "look at Cole's pin" whenever bleed knife related topics came up

thick inlet
#

lol, I just can’t pull myself away from the Eviscerator

misty nova
#

Me with the 15

thick inlet
#

I just recently switched to the 15

misty nova
#

Although I'm taking a liking for axes rn

zinc talon
frosty herald
#

i despise google

umbral kindle
#

So what are the preferred Heavy sword perks?

north sedge
#

flak maniac

wheat matrix
ember yew
#

when you score headshot kills

#

and how stupid shotgun is

#

its easy to score headshot kills with aoe

wheat matrix
#

well yeah the joke is a 4 barreled shotgun is not meant to shoot more than 4 times bork

#

game looks like it'd be good with friends

#

I'm looking forward to SM2

ocean anvil
#

FOR SIGMAR

wraith bolt
#

zealot bros

#

is this bricked up

#

I feel like if I change the perks it's decent

drowsy steppe
#

rip sorry

wraith bolt
#

fuck

#

whyy

left iron
# wraith bolt whyy

The perks are not great, and the blessings are eh to bad. Rampage + savage sweep is the go-to for evis, with flakiac for perks.

left iron
#

Hey Stan

hushed knoll
#

How are you doing on this lovely day ice

left iron
#

Eh

hushed knoll
#

Not good but not bad?

drowsy steppe
#

no survivalist on no ammo pickup

#

Im so proud of my people 🥹

thick inlet
#

Does Survivalist not proc in No ammo pickup missions, or is it that it’s not really worth it?

north sedge
#

he's being sarcastic

#

it's like, the go to talent in that mode

#

and still the best in general

thick inlet
#

Ah lmao

tranquil summit
#

its fine without it tho

lean lark
balmy olive
deft garnet
#

Good ending

balmy olive
#

I like this origami person

left iron
#

Scab melee peepoHappy

drowsy steppe
nimble fiber
tribal estuary
#

how does thunderstrike on the crusher work

acoustic dune
#

It might dies

#

Simple as

tribal estuary
#

so the impact is added on staggered enemies

acoustic dune
#

Get momentum on thunderhammer

#

That shit make you unstoppable in a horde

#

(There's no such thing as enough armour)

tribal estuary
#

um

#

there is no momentum

#

on the thunderhammer

acoustic dune
#

What

#

I remenber there is

#

As a blessing

tribal estuary
#

it only has 4

acoustic dune
#

They removed it?

tranquil summit
#

sigh time to fail at playing zealot again wish me luck

tribal estuary
#

idk

acoustic dune
#

This can't be

tribal estuary
#

i never used crusher before

drowsy steppe
#

thunderstrike's impact only works when the enemy is staggered

#

you want either hammerblow or trauma for an impact blessing

acoustic dune
#

Well there goes my thunder hammer hyper armour built

drowsy steppe
acoustic dune
#

If you hit multiple in one strike

#

You gain armour back

drowsy steppe
#

we talking about the crusher tho

acoustic dune
#

Oh

#

Wait doesn't it used to have it aswell

tribal estuary
#

u were thinkin abt the hammer

north sedge
#

momentum on hammer is poo, and yes hammer and crusher are different things

acoustic dune
#

And not the mace

north sedge
#

thunderstrike works by being by far the worst of the impact blessings

acoustic dune
north sedge
#

we have like, infinite toughness gen anyway, and it just makes you kill way way way slower

acoustic dune
#

It's just fun ok

drowsy steppe
acoustic dune
#

Thunderhammer is fun to 1shit enemy with a specific built

#

Literal glass canon

drowsy steppe
#

Ive personally find thammers boring to use now

acoustic dune
#

And all damage buff

fossil crag
drowsy steppe
#

heavy sword though

acoustic dune
#

I do love the combat knife

left iron
acoustic dune
#

(Make me go quick)

drowsy steppe
#

no u

left iron
acoustic dune
#

The thunderhammer doesn't really feel fun

#

With how much windup it has

#

Ans slowing you down

#

When I am prepared to hit like a boss or smth before I let my attack go

#

I always get stagger or knock back

left iron
acoustic dune
# left iron

Yeah that was before I start running these anywhere

#

(I have made a cocaine zealot built with 2 stam bar curio)

#

I am never running out of stam to push stuff

#

I kinda wanna do a shield ogryn with all stam curio

left iron
acoustic dune
#

Kinda wish I could go faster doh

north sedge
#

i saw an all stam shieldgryn once, he was on the floor every single fight

acoustic dune
#

Have you ever seen a all stam zealot before?

north sedge
#

dunno, they were probably a knife zealot if so, in which case like 95% of them were shit

acoustic dune
north sedge
#

why

acoustic dune
#

It's fun to go fast

#

And I hate running out of stam

north sedge
acoustic dune
#

Right now the 2 stam and 1 toughness curio is pretty great

#

And when I see a buster I don't get that o shit moment when I am out of stam

north sedge
#

never had an issue, base stam regen is more than enough

acoustic dune
#

Prob just a me problem

misty nova
acoustic dune
misty nova
drowsy steppe
#

I have started using zealot without until death and holy rev

#

tempted to use the 2 extra points now I have for SoC

sterile stone
#

He speaketh heresy

placid fiber
#

It sure as hell does murdicate stuff

lavish swift
#

If I prefer chorus and immolation grenade on my build, as well as an eviscerator… what ranged weapon makes the most sense ? Should I just stick with bolter after all?

fleet zealot
placid fiber
#

I mean you can use revolver or brauto

fleet zealot
#

and then you can go anything if you don't care about the ridic pierce of revolver. agri brauto, columnus iag

placid fiber
#

Hell you could use the autopistol at that point, with how well the eviscerator is against everything

#

I wouldn't recommend it, tho

#

Even if I do use it on one of my builds

lavish swift
#

Revolver would probably be cool yeah just for snipers, trappers, flamers etc

placid fiber
#

Definitely better for snipers than the brauto or autopistol

minor sage
#

rts as a genre currently is in a drought

#

but there are plenty of popular strategy games like slay the spire, against the storm, xcom, civ6 etc

lavish swift
#

I think I should be okay with eviscerator revolver , because if we run into like 6 bulwarks or whatever on maelstrom I just throw an incendiary grenade and hit chorus

#

Enjoy burning while you’re stunned and hopefully allies actually help lmao

fossil crag
merry flume
#

i love modern day software

high ibex
merry flume
#

just download it legit, use a tool gg free microsoft office

#

and it still updates normally standabuddy_dab

fleet zealot
drowsy steppe
#

IIIVEG's back

frosty herald
#

Waht

sterile stone
high ibex
grizzled aspen
#

how does one go about doing just a flesh wound when they main martyrdom?

strange silo
grizzled aspen
#

nah I'm just trying to figure out the strategy

#

getting my brain to get away from the build I have set up is quite hard

#

I also probably have to do some item prep to get it done and I have no materials or dockets

#

spent them all on a gunker revolver

strange silo
drowsy steppe
#

🙂

spare talon
#

Using 2 wounds is just outright better idea cuz you'll have around like 90 health which is a much bigger cushion to the damage you'll inevitably take as you rush through a mission

left iron
#

I havent been even close to reaching 600k boss damage recently pepeW

visual stream
#

I pick up a recon one time and suddenly there's one in every single match I play

left iron
#

The goddamn minimonster modifier doesnt spawn things the way it used to

grizzled aspen
left iron
placid dirge
#

Does anyone know if there's actual way to see the current streak for the streak penances ?

merry flume
#

mini boss modifier

#

spawns nothing but beasts of nurgle

visual stream
left iron
#

I've had nothing but cspawns and they have less hp than the others

merry flume
#

chaos spawns and plogryns are actually fun to fight

left iron
#

Which infuriates me

#

I want that 600k boss damage

summer tree
#

Play Vet

merry flume
left iron
#

Nah

merry flume
#

i want the fanfire revolver to work

#

i don't mind the damage but it's so inaccurate at the worst times

#

actually it's not bad, just don't get suppressed by gunners or it's gg

summer tree
#

I guess I'm lucky because it works for me all the time

#

Always hits shots when I need it

spare talon
glass pelican
#

Hello zealot bros opinion on this one? i don't have many chainaxes

stable cypress
#

gonna want to flush +specialists but looks good so far

spare talon
fleet zealot
#

use as little wounds as possible with just a flesh wound

#

so you are at half health and not like 20%

spare talon
#

Of having 2 full health plague ogryns, 1 weakened beast, and a full health chaos spawn

spare talon
glass pelican
#

that's how i got it at least

#

what should i change on this

runic grotto
#

what would be a good ranged weapon for evis XV with martyrdom?

fleet zealot
spare talon
fleet zealot
#

i want to ping wardens and tell them to make the little baby crocodile zealot our mascot

#

but i fear the consequences

fleet zealot
merry flume
fleet zealot
#

just go thrust 🗯️

merry flume
#

boringgggg

fleet zealot
#

okay

merry flume
#

it's so strong that thrust would only help with boss dmg

#

i can essentially oneshot anything but bosses with my current chaxe, which is p similar to that one

fleet zealot
drowsy steppe
#

bleed blessing mentioned

#

get em boys

merry flume
#

yeah but it's not on a knife

#

so standabuddy_dab

summer tree
drowsy steppe
spare talon
thick inlet
#

I use the agripa one personally

spare talon
#

Saying zarona and nothing else honestly isn't really a good answer

runic grotto
spare talon
#

Zarona is good with everything lmao

thick inlet
#

Yeah Zarona you load individually

misty nova
#

With the 15 you don't really need to panic bolter dump on Crushers

spare talon
drowsy steppe
#

zarona is the best zealot weapon honestly, the only balancing factor being the slow reload

runic grotto
#

And do I need any cleave blessings for evis? I think rampage and the crit blessing on chained hits are going to be more than enough.

thick inlet
#

I like the feel of it, and I can still hit medium range enemies pretty consistently

drowsy steppe
#

currently rending on crit just downright ignores the armor system that FS THEMSELVES make

#

like bruh why

spare talon
hushed knoll
#

BURH

#

RUB

#

BRUH

spare talon
#

This isn't sarcasm as well
It's pretty fun and silly how easily you can do that

drowsy steppe
#

no you right

thick inlet
#

Maybe I’ll give Zarona another try if I find a good rolled one. But I like the speed of the Agrippa

drowsy steppe
thick inlet
#

And again I love the feel of the fanned hammer mode

south folio
#

who's burh and why did he rub bruh

drowsy steppe
#

an enigma, faint trace of an imagination

hushed knoll
#

WHEN ARE WE PLAYING DARKTIDE

south folio
#

when you no longer eat carbohydrates

#

or consume dihydrogen monoxide

hushed knoll
#

You need carbohydrates to survive

#

Dihydrogen monoxide you also need

south folio
#

😇

tranquil summit
spare talon
# thick inlet Maybe I’ll give Zarona another try if I find a good rolled one. But I like the s...

It's more that zarona can hit through 6 targets, allowing you to hit a trapper in a horde for example, as well as killing 6 shotgunners standing in a line
It also has higher outright damage, especially armor damage (and surg/hc also exists, which benefits more from the higher raw damage)
And the actual hit box of the projectiles it shoots are like tree logs so you rarely have to worry about missing, even on far away snipers

tranquil summit
#

i believe in you Stan!!

thick inlet
median steeple
#

I think all revolvers should explode

spare talon
#

Surgical handcannon

hushed knoll
hushed knoll
#

Meth

#

Month

#

Moth

drowsy steppe
#

omg

thick inlet
#

You okay there, Stan?

drowsy steppe
#

that poor soul

thick inlet
#

Do you smell burnt toast

hushed knoll
drowsy steppe
#

:acid_do_mathematics:

fleet zealot
#

meth meth meth

left iron
summer tree
spare talon
#

Surgical allows for a guaranteed crit if you keep aiming down sights, additive with its base crit chance bonus (like 21% more with 80% stat, and 24% more damage on crit at 80% too)
Handcannon ignores up to 60% armor on a crit, which you can literally force with surgical to chunk crushers and maulers

misty nova
drowsy steppe
royal vortex
median steeple
#

Stan murdering another poor soul

tranquil summit
#

huh?

drowsy steppe
hushed knoll
#

🥶

drowsy steppe
#

my got

hushed knoll
#

No

drowsy steppe
#

god

tranquil summit
#

🤦‍♀️

hushed knoll
#

You can't angrily leave

hushed knoll
drowsy steppe
#

it is most certainly not spider toe stan

tranquil summit
#

zealot life

hushed knoll
#

I just saved a jumping spider

tranquil summit
#

hushed knoll
#

They're so cute

drowsy steppe
#

:acid_do_mathematics:

#

they do be cute tho

median steeple
#

I think the brain rot has reached critical density

tranquil summit
#

🕷️🕸️

median steeple
hushed knoll
#

I'm def gonna fuck with some red wine later

left iron
drowsy steppe
#

do not the bottle

hushed knoll
#

What

tranquil summit
#

dont f spiders

hushed knoll
#

I meant with my mouth

#

Like drink it

median steeple
#

Every word that manifests from this makes it worse

drowsy steppe
spare talon
#

I feel like I having a stronk reading this

#

Call the bondulance

median steeple
#

Fuck I need to play the event

#

Must kill

spare talon
#

I have like
2 days to do it realistically

#

I'm literally omw out of town for a yearly memorial weekend trip visiting extended family in the middle of virtually nowhere

drowsy steppe
#

Its only been 2 days for me and I have about 5K+ kills already

#

I wouldve gotten more if I grinded a lot more

left iron
#

Im at 7800 after 5 games today

drowsy steppe
#

I get distracted a lot

left iron
#

Skissue

tranquil summit
#

gesundheit

summer tree
left iron
#

Please use this higher quality one from now on, thats embarrassing

drowsy steppe
#

I actually have that favorited already

#

💀

left iron
north sedge
drowsy steppe
#

ok FS but why do I have to commit 1 game just to play Sedition and Uprising for a penance

fleet zealot