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errant mountain
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To be fair the new weapons and map will be cool

solar gorge
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i'm just saying that fatshark can't win

storm crypt
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the new map is kind of huge because they probably have another mission recycling teh map

solar gorge
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no matter what they add

coarse birch
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yeah FS cant win

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people will never be happy

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simply how it is

errant mountain
storm crypt
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i mean i will forever give them shit for breaking something and going on vacation for like 4 weeks

coarse birch
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because its never "what they asked for" or something

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despite everyone bitching about crafting

errant mountain
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But we can hope

solar gorge
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adress the big thing everyone asks for

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and they'll find another instantly and say you didn't do shit

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it's always like this with gaming communities

median steeple
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Gamers™️ are a plauge

storm crypt
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i think right now you have the people who see like, bolt pistol or double barrel and pog
and then people like me who could not give a fuck about ranged weapons that will not replace my loadout who just need to know what the crafting rework is

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its just people looking for different info

frosty herald
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Elden ring tiem

coarse birch
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ill probably play both

errant mountain
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Crafting/ Itemisation hopefully going to be good- it will be interesting to see how + what they will change

solar gorge
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i'm just kinda miffed that

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they didn't mention all the other shit in the teaser

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since it's what the masses saw

storm crypt
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i honestly REALLY hope that the crafting update isn't just

storm crypt
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"upgrade to red and unlock everything :)" it would be so bad

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everyone would just upgrade everything they have to red and complain again about nothing to do

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but considering there's playtesting it shouldn't be that

errant mountain
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I'll guess I'll see you all in June then

coarse birch
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i mean in order for it to properly be "more stuff to do" a blessing rework would likely need to come with it

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depending on how much more you want

storm crypt
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thats most likely the case because blessings are in a very awkward spot

coarse birch
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just a crafting update for most people means they try whatever 4-5 weapon builds they never bothered with and then leave again

storm crypt
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either your weapon has the broken meta blessings thatl et you completely ignore armor

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or you get like

coarse birch
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i dont even have anything new to make with current blessings

storm crypt
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headtaker

solar gorge
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according to testers and shit the update might come 25 of june if it's ready but it might not be because they're really trying to cook here

coarse birch
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not really a complaint

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however i do think blessing rework would help

solar gorge
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they say it's under rigorous testing by playtesters so there might be a blessing rework

storm crypt
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all i know is red weapons should be emperor's gift exclusive tbh

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just

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rip the page right out of vt2

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random red weapons, crunch it into dust if you don't want it

coarse birch
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even if slow

storm crypt
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make a red weapon when you get enough

merry flume
median steeple
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because melk bucks are so easy to get

solar gorge
median steeple
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and most people have stockpiled them

storm crypt
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yeah i imagine a lot of people have like 60k bucks

coarse birch
storm crypt
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melk could offer them rarely maybe

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but it should still be like

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actively play the game for this

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and not watch the darktide plugin on your browser

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or excessive gambling

median steeple
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I know the darktide segment was... suboptimal but at least the other reveals weren't badAAAA

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also 300 card games of warhammer

solar gorge
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it's like this everytime

stable cypress
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mechanicus whipped ass so I'm p hype for 2

solar gorge
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mobile games and card games

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and 3 decent actual games

median steeple
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yeah mechanicus and SM2 are the only things i care about in there

frosty herald
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Was boltgun 2 anounced

median steeple
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no just DLC

solar gorge
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no, just the dlc

frosty herald
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DLC

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RAAAAAAAA

median steeple
frosty herald
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Hopefully mechanicus 2 doesnt have a game timer

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Fucking hated that shit with xcom and mechanicus 1

visual stream
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You would think that the person who clutched would be the first person you try to pick up but I guess not

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Me getting disabled for the first time all match and watching the remaining three all die to a singular gunner

thick inlet
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The description says Necrons are playable, I wonder if this means the game will have 2 campaigns with AdMech and Necrons then

median steeple
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yeah you might be right

drowsy steppe
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ok so note to self: relay station dont approach the fan

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instantly yeeted to the void

frosty herald
median steeple
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Two playable factions, two narrative campaigns, two highly unique play-styles and one important choice – who will you lead to victory in this arcane technological war of cold metal hatred?

thick inlet
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Looks almost like we’re getting a mini 4x game in that screenshot

spiral anvil
median steeple
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yes

frosty herald
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seems like awakening isnt in the game

spiral anvil
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xcom2? KEKW_ogryn

median steeple
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mechanicus and necrons are the playable factions with two different campaigns

spiral anvil
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thats wild

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you can play as terminators

frosty herald
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guh

median steeple
thick inlet
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Necron bar at the top. Maybe awakening is still in but more battle/area specific

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And not a doom timer

steep flame
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Was anything announced for darktide?

frosty herald
thick inlet
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New area, new weapons

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Next month

frosty herald
thick inlet
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Snowy looking area, Boltpistol, 2h Ogryn weapons, and double barrel shotty

steep flame
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This is so hype

frosty herald
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frosty herald
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but if its actual snow its peak

spiral anvil
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death cult assassin ||waifu||

steep flame
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A human sized pickaxe would go hard too

frosty herald
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please let us have a human pickaxe

fleet zealot
coarse birch
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FS generally takes steps in the right direction just very slowly

drowsy steppe
frosty herald
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fatshark giving us the sloppenheimer

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the floppenheimer

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LETS FUCKING GO

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SPACE MARINE 2 ARMOR AND WEAPON CUSTOMIZATIOn

median steeple
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Yeah it's great

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Thank God they got the devs that did wwz for this game

frosty herald
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SABER INTERACTIVE GIVE ME THE CHARCHARADONS LOGO AND GREY ARMOR COLOR AND MY LIFE IS YOURS

median steeple
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also horde mode goes hard

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this is all I wanted

frosty herald
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They got

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A grapling hook

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Which fucking tyranid is strong enough to be used as an anchor for a 600kg marine

median steeple
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also there are bionic limbs

frosty herald
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Omw iron hands warrior

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Also omw making an admech marine

median steeple
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also you see a hive tyrant in the trailer and its fucking huge

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dark angel hood

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on the same class the imperial fist shit is on

frosty herald
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You already know im the heavy with the thunder hammer and heavy bolter

median steeple
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also they gave the tson hellbrute a fucking hammer

frosty herald
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Bringinv back the og 6v6 is also really cool

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The what

open pollen
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So, can anyone tell me how the event works?

vast basin
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Kill stuff, get mats

stable cypress
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The tson hellbrute a fucking hamme

open pollen
median steeple
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lmao the kill animation for Tsons

frosty herald
frosty herald
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B R U H

median steeple
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Ok the game is looking good so far but they could still fumble it

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please be good

frosty herald
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thousand suns is such a cool faction glad i get to fight them

median steeple
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so real for that

frosty herald
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a season pass also signifies dlc

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imagine they allow us to use chaos marines in coop missions

median steeple
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The death guard armor they showed looks cool asf

ripe quest
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Children of the Omnissiah v2 goes so fucking hard

median steeple
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God not that video

ripe quest
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the script being flipped for necrons, the banger ost, peak but remastered

frosty herald
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the composer made such a good soundtrack they use it for the second game

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im an absolute dumbass

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the foundry map IS a snow map

royal vortex
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this is p close to what i was hoping for

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i want a tileset set in the atoman mines

frosty herald
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snowmaps go hard asf

frosty herald
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something something the mining crew found chaos corruption in the mines for the foundry

royal vortex
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brotentially

frosty herald
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the event is basically decapitate or crush heads from enemies right?

obtuse stirrup
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We dug too deep and too greedily?

frosty herald
radiant nacelle
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Plague marine confirmed lfg

frosty herald
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in space marine 2?

sturdy cypress
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Pickaxes and double barrels?

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Are we back?

frosty herald
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imagine the double barrel is over and under

sturdy cypress
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I'd imagine side by side but if its under over we can go back to bullying the olympia gang again

frosty herald
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do not

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the olympia slaps on round 20

median steeple
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I want it to be over under but the model is already in the game no?

sturdy cypress
median steeple
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And it's side to side

sturdy cypress
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(This post was made by m14 gang)

frosty herald
sturdy cypress
frosty herald
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@sterile stone unemployed yet?

solar gorge
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so even better

ripe quest
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I imagine it's not going to be far off from a human Kickback.

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the special attack is a bash

frosty herald
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Bruh

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Is it similar to the doom shotgun lmao

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Sawed off and all

ripe quest
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There are some long barrels w/ the models

round crater
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Does anyone know if there a unique reward for the event?

solar gorge
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last time i looked at it it was quite longer

fleet zealot
fleet zealot
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FATSHARK NOT AGAIN

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STOP BREAKING MY PORTRAIT

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looks like i ate a god damn bee

open pollen
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Maybe a bit o' Kenshi too

spare talon
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The darktide sub is actually fuming over the event not showering you in loot and cosmetics lmao

solar gorge
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as expected

open pollen
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I still don't fully understand what the event is. Like, kills = mats, but is there a place where that gets tracked?

fleet zealot
spare talon
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1.5k and 2k extra plasteel for just playing the game

fleet zealot
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i need dockets at this point not plasteel

spare talon
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There are also dockets there

open pollen
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Where does this get listed, in the endgame screen?

solar gorge
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i mean, it's not much at all tbh

spare talon
solar gorge
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ik it's onme

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but that's literally nothing to me

sterile stone
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I am waiting on food

spare talon
open pollen
solar gorge
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it's good for the average sub lvl 30 i guess

spare talon
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2k plasteel is like 8-10 missions for them

open pollen
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I was hoping for something more festive, but it'll do.

sterile stone
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Was hoping for atleast a limited time title

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Or a portrait

versed turtle
sterile stone
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Given the upcoming update though, I'm guessing those unreleased portraits regarding the mechanicum might finally be put to use

solar gorge
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i hope

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at least it's what i wanted, new maps and weapons

versed turtle
sterile stone
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Fuck if I know

solar gorge
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and maybe they'll finish the crafting update on time who knows

sterile stone
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I'm gonna assume the bolt pistol is gonna be a finesse based weapon

solar gorge
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allegedly they have dt sweats in the testing servers making sure the weapons are good

sterile stone
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I could be wrong.

solar gorge
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like telopot and tinycrob

sterile stone
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Crab has abandoned us

versed turtle
sterile stone
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Never to return

versed turtle
solar gorge
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hank said he testing

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hank never lie

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simple as

sterile stone
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I saw mention of new Og weapons

solar gorge
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yeah two handed stuff

sterile stone
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Wonder if they're finally getting a auto cannon

solar gorge
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and a pickaxe

versed turtle
solar gorge
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no mention of guns for ogryn as far as i know

open pollen
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And maybe give enemies glowing red eyes.

drifting wolf
solar gorge
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expect massive AP single target for ogryn this patch

sterile stone
solar gorge
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those poor crushers

versed turtle
solar gorge
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nuke isn't single target tho

versed turtle
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Also IDK why but this update is making my game lag like hell

versed turtle
open pollen
north sedge
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shovel

north sedge
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big head yes

sterile stone
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I'm getting killing floor 2 flashbacks

north sedge
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true why think about that game

solar gorge
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merasmus reference obviously

open pollen
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It'd be funny if the heads were only like, 10% bigger. Just enough to make it uncanny

sterile stone
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Big head mode was so ass if you weren't a gunslinger

open pollen
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Slightly bigger head mode

sterile stone
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Or a marksman

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With rack em up

versed turtle
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Its so dumb its fun

sterile stone
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Praying KF3 isn't a microtransaction shitfest

frosty herald
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Tripwire selling 10 dollar miniguns

fleet zealot
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kf2 feels so floaty going back to it

frosty herald
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I fw gunslinger and berserker hard

sterile stone
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In current kf2 right

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Everyone has access to the dlc as long as one person owns it

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I mean like

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Pay to win shit

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Like skins that give extra hp

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Or more dmg

frosty herald
jaunty lion
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hey ferret chat

sterile stone
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Meanwhile there I am waiting on stalker 2

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Expecting another delay because of the war

frosty herald
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Space marine 2 is popping off hard

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Armor and weapon customization

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6v6 pvp

median steeple
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It looks so goood

frosty herald
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Coop missions alongside coop campaign

opal sparrow
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For a martyrdom build is 149 toughness enough? too much? just right?

sterile stone
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The early gameplay with the tyranid invasion looked fire

solar gorge
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need to wait untill it comes out and reviews start popping out

frosty herald
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Im more interrested for thousand sons

median steeple
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Yeah finally something other than nurgle and black legion getting the spotlight

maiden path
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WIOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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4k

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NURTGLE

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GUTS

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YEA

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whens it dropping though

sterile stone
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I'm glad I did a double take

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And saw you typed Nurtgle

maiden path
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spetember 9th

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oh cool darktide stuff

median steeple
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Bro just woke up from a year long coma on space marine news

maiden path
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i went to bed at 9pm last night cause my allergies were bad

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now i wake up 2 al this!!

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ok darktide news sucked

median steeple
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Did you see mechanics 2

maiden path
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didnt even show anyhting cool other then a snow map

fleet zealot
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ferrets are literally bred to be social and need at least one bonded partner ferret to be friends with

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it's really sad how they are treated by some pet stores

jaunty lion
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poor little guy needs a friend

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some kind of enrichment at least

sterile stone
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That multiplayer mode looks fire

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Almost like a mini raid mode

maiden path
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i get to play as a nurgle marine!!

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good enuf for me!!

sterile stone
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Bro gets to cosplay a reddit mod

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And is happy

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Wild

median steeple
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saber interactive cooks again

maiden path
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ok u gotta be fucking kidding me

flint imp
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evis crit martyr chorus build is kinda fun ngl

frosty herald
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Imma have a thousand sons marine

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Coolest chaos faction

maiden path
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is this really what the event is

maiden path
flint imp
median steeple
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I love the fact the added the rubicon marines just falling apart

maiden path
frosty herald
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We have dreadnaughts

maiden path
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me trying to blow up the dreadnoughts with my mind

fleet zealot
sterile stone
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El Chupacabara

maiden path
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what if they say fuck it and just make a darktide 2 that they actually support forever

sterile stone
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That's be dumb

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Darktide is a live service game

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There wouldn't need to be a DT2

maiden path
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they're gonna make darktide 2..........

sterile stone
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Beb out of everyone here

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You are the least trustworthy with this statement

hushed knoll
frosty herald
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Thats el diablo

maiden path
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im the robert liston of warhammer leaks

fleet zealot
maiden path
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i think helldives 2 spoiled me too much

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maybe the darktide update will be crazy

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and they're purposely not showing alot

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jack the ripper happeneed in the 1880's

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holy fuck

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that guy probably survived to see ww2

bitter anvil
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i get 2001 error

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that suck

frosty herald
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This is what happens when you edge too much

maiden path
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i am TIRED of tyranids

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i do not CARE about space aliens!!!

frosty herald
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Guess what space marine 2 is about

frosty herald
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Dont worry we also have thousand sons

maiden path
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and nurgle

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and my axe

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or whatever the fuck they said in lord of the rings

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no one told me we're getting new wepons!!

frosty herald
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Pickaxes might be fun

maiden path
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wheres the new weapon stuff at

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was it during the live stream

sterile stone
frosty herald
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Nah

sterile stone
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When we get an actual story update

frosty herald
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It was a forum post after the teaser

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But holy shit an actual snow map

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I love snow

sterile stone
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I think going back to fight the atoma hive will be like

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This is a memory

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And considered not current anymore

austere grail
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bolt pistol is gonna finally fulfill my dreams of bolter draw speed buff

maiden path
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i can tfind it

sterile stone
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Undercooked

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Under performing

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Weapon to drop

austere grail
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dont do this to me

sterile stone
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I gotta kill the hope while it's fresh

austere grail
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its gonna be hell with everyone playing ogryn

modern jasper
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gentlemen, it is with great pleasure i inform you that i have finally done all the zealot penances... the last few are so anti-teamwork that i feel like i need a shower having played like that

austere grail
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getting disabled 30 times a match

frosty herald
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The foundry did mention a void

austere grail
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dying to ranged trash

frosty herald
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And our contact cant be trusted

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Maybe some warp fuckery is at play here

maiden path
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the bolter sucks dick and people still use it

sterile stone
maiden path
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the rest of our big update plans fell into the warp

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right guys?

sterile stone
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So blatantly selfish

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They borderline griefing your team

maiden path
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tomorrow the video for our big update is coming right??

maiden path
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it'll pop out of the warp and they'll go 'haha got u'

maiden path
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or

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whatever the tongue guys name was

frosty herald
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The itemization part of the update is coming

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Meaning this update has parts

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JAR JAR

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YOU ILLITERATE GOONER

maiden path
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jar jar!!

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i dont watch starwars

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i played the lego games though

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part 2 of thje update is coming in 2025!

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then they get a break for two years

frosty herald
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Have you played skywalker saga

maiden path
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NO

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graah make starkiller canon

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fuck u disney!

frosty herald
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Consider yourself an opp

misty nova
maiden path
maiden path
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wrong image

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ok fuck

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i closed the tab witht he image

frosty herald
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LMAO

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I am not meant for white woman

maiden path
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it was starkiller with goku drip

frosty herald
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Post it

sterile stone
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Look at that hairline

frosty herald
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This dude

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Wanted latinas with dump trucks

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Then went for white women

sterile stone
maiden path
frosty herald
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If you see any japanese or chinese tweet its a giftbox

maiden path
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the update is next fucking month

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and the main things they have to showcase are weapons and a map

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jesus christ

frosty herald
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4 days after shadow of the erdtree

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Like bro we are still busy with the dlc lmfao

maiden path
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give me the devtools I could make a map in that time

frosty herald
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A single hallway with infinite groaners

maiden path
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bolt pistol goated though

misty nova
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12 days after DRG season 5 if I'm not mistaken

frosty herald
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Also that lmao

maiden path
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mf dooms much less liked cousin

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is drg gonna let u replay seasons

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i still need the turban hat

misty nova
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Yeah, they'll let you get the passes

balmy olive
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surely there's more to this update

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surely

kindred ivy
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Someone just confirm for me, Hadron's beefed it here, yes?

balmy olive
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no it's not terrible

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if you just replaced lacerate with like uncanny strike and got rid of groaners it's fine

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mark 3 is a good single target weapon so you just have a pretty decent monster killing weapon

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you could also use ruthless backstab or w/e if you prefer that one

kindred ivy
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Yeah, I suppose it's a good enough excuse to try to improve my dodging

balmy olive
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dodge things proc more than you might think

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especially on higher difficulties

runic grotto
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I got a MK3 combat blade with 20% maniacs, 8% elites, flesh tearer III and uncanny strike IV. I replaced some garbage to uncanny IV and not sure what perk should I get

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Flak?

balmy olive
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flak or carapace

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it's up to you

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your flak damage is probably okkkkkkkkk with uncanny 4 tbh

placid fiber
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Idk guys... both of us look pretty similar. I think people will have trouble telling us apart(That's the item called "Clone")

runic grotto
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Also I'm still not sure, uncanny or backstab

balmy olive
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it's like do you want to absolutely destroy flak enemies or do you want to make it easier to wittle down crushers

runic grotto
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I plan on using the flamethrower as my ranged

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So probably crushers and other elites are a bigger priority

balmy olive
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it's personal preference, there's a lot of stuff that buff weakspot hits so uncanny is probably more synergetic

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however backstab is still good

placid fiber
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Whoops, didn't mean to type anything lol

balmy olive
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or did you

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dun dun dun

placid fiber
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Not until I find scattershot goddamnit!

balmy olive
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lmao

placid fiber
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I love scattershot so much. :3

balmy olive
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you reminded me i have to make a new shotgun

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the one i had was hot garbage

placid fiber
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See? My non-darktide babble is helpful, sometimes.

balmy olive
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so true

runic grotto
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also, is it a big deal if I have flesh tearer III?

balmy olive
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65% damage roll wtf was I thinking

balmy olive
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i have a knife that's literally just bleed LOL

runic grotto
placid fiber
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I think...

balmy olive
placid fiber
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Yeah

balmy olive
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to be fair that was a test weapon to see if the interaction worked

runic grotto
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349 base rating

placid fiber
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You should have weakspot damage and crit hit damage

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for worse!

runic grotto
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My mod automatically scraps everything below around 350 base rating

balmy olive
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i saw an ogryn the other day with weakspot hit damage

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on a twin stubber

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and reload speed

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while he was using the close fire thing, you know the thing that automatically reloads your gun

placid fiber
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Damn, that makes the pea shooter look decent in Gungeon...

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with how bad that was built

balmy olive
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it's like bro did not understand what his build did at all

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i made this knife just for the luls

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it's funny

placid fiber
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sigh I guess I can settle for this, for now. <.<

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Gives me 30 shots in my robot's right hand, instead of 20

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It feels so stupid to have 50% more shots in that starting gun lol

#

It feels like making the Gorgonum stubber's mag for Ogryns 50% larger...

left iron
#

Bleed is mediocre at best, and is only useful as a enabler for scourge for extra crit chance/TDR from whatever the crit one is called

crimson elk
#

WE BOUTTA BRICK WITH THIS ONE 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️ 📣 📣 📣

balmy olive
#

how is extra damage bad

left iron
#

Behold the insane damage bleed deals to things

#

Instead of whacking a thing twice

crimson elk
#

bleed with rending is cracked though?

#

uncanny applies to the bleed stacks so you melt shit regardless

left iron
#

Or, idk

#

You could just whack something in the head once/twice and its dead if you had, lets say, precog

#

Wild, i know

#

Uncanny precog*

balmy olive
#

are you always this passive aggressive

north sedge
balmy olive
crimson elk
#

my guy is mad for no reason LMAO

balmy olive
#

idk whenever i've run bleed builds it puts in work for me

left iron
#

With the weird takes people give out on weapons, and having to correct them almost daily, it gets tiring

full nebula
#

is it just me or is zealots krieg kinda meh

balmy olive
#

why are you acting like it's your job to somehow singlehandedly impose a "correct" opinion on weapon building in a game

#

LOL

left iron
#

Because i am forced to play with other people

#

And them being a sandbag gets tedious

crimson elk
#

that moment when you kill a pack of crushers with bleed and this guy gets mad

balmy olive
#

just get friends that have the same mindset as you then

#

i see some cursed ass builds but i dont mald at them cause i know how randos are

#

not worth

#

end of the day it's a game

spare talon
spare talon
crimson elk
#

i mean uncanny is kinda must take no?

spare talon
#

Yeah it is

crimson elk
#

regardless of bleed

spare talon
#

They're running lacerate flesh tearer

balmy olive
#

god forbid I have fun

#

😔

left iron
#

Oh, play whatever you want

crimson elk
#

uh yeah that wont work well but its whatever

left iron
#

Dont go around telling people its good though

#

Thats your fun, meme build

crimson elk
#

as long as you dont run 70 miles ahead of the team and die yall can do whatever you want

balmy olive
#

so you're saying that ogryn's bleed talents are all shit too then

spare talon
# balmy olive god forbid I have fun

I have a bleed knife myself
It's uncanny fleshtearer
I'm just saying that lacerate actively works against the strengths of the weapon, in addition to being in the place of arguably some of the best blessings in the game

spare talon
balmy olive
#

wdym 3x damage what

spare talon
#

Ogryn using heavy attacks are already their strength AND survivability

spare talon
full nebula
#

Uncanny strike is best in slot and needs weakspot hits, lacerate is only on non-weak spot hits, it works against itself

left iron
#

Its still a shit damage source

balmy olive
#

ok because at the start of this you said bleed in general is "mediocre" at best

plucky sparrow
#

and whats the tick rate for bleed again?

balmy olive
#

which is interesting

left iron
#

Because thats what it is?

crimson elk
left iron
#

Ogryn also doesnt sacrifice a weapon blessing to get bleed

coarse birch
#

Bleed is mediocre and downright not good if you are just getting damage from it

full nebula
#

bleed for actually killing things isn't that great, zealot wants bleed because of the crits you get from the stacks

#

that is true but you do have to work harder generally

spare talon
coarse birch
#

It just happens to proc other stuff really

spare talon
#

Vs a knife dealing like 900 to the head instantly

coarse birch
#

That comes free

crimson elk
#

with uncanny and bleed you can just swing into other stuff while bleed kills whatever can't reach you. its definitely not bad

coarse birch
#

Uncanny bleed is decent but thats mostly thanks to uncanny

crimson elk
#

if you want single target cool dont run bleed but the playstyle isn't the same at all

#

purgation also benefits from uncanny off your blade

spare talon
median steeple
#

doing the math for pantheon score is pain AAAA

spare talon
#

Like seriously

median steeple
#

Hestia_WTF sweet new emote

crimson elk
#

yall have to stop assuming its a single target arms race when you got mixed hordes pushing your shit in

full nebula
#

the bleed mechanic drain plays second fiddle to the crits you want from the stacks

spare talon
# spare talon

This is how much damage knife is multiplied to the head or crit on light and heavy attacks respectively
Getting a crit multiplies it AGAIN

placid fiber
#

sigh I didn't get a master round from one of the easier floor 2 bosses in Gungeon... because I walked off of the ledge during the fight...

spare talon
#

Especially when you can have a consistent like 70% crit chance on zealot

placid fiber
full nebula
#

i generally don't have a problem clearing hordes without lacerate, granted i also use mark 6 which has sweeps. that said hitting heads is usually good enough, and if you do mixed combos like punch into stab and whatnot theres not usually an issue

fleet zealot
#

bleed is icing you shouldn't force yourself to play around it

spare talon
balmy olive
#

how long does it take for the 16 stacks to do max damage btw

placid fiber
#

like what... 1 second?

coarse birch
#

Bleed helps a bit into hordes but even then just take flesh tearer

spare talon
#

Like drop to 0

placid fiber
#

Ah

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like... 5 seconds...?

crimson elk
#

lacerate lets you build up crit quickly if you're not speccing into BP

full nebula
#

well, if its like 8 on crit, most of the time i can get 2 crits within the first 3-4 hits on an ogryn]

#

thats with ft

spare talon
crimson elk
full nebula
#

also highly dependant on the stacks of uncanny, much higher crit chance once the uncanny stacks up and you can punch through

placid fiber
spare talon
full nebula
#

people should really practice using the punch more, you wouldn't believe the amount of crits it can proc with the follow up stab

#

not just on human sized enemies either

placid fiber
#

I love baseball batting enemies in Gungeon, so fucking much!

crimson elk
#

lacerate literally lets you build up 30% crit immediately from scourge letting you not have to run piety in the first place

spare talon
full nebula
#

i dont run blazing piety personally

unreal edge
#

Electable.

spare talon
#

Like the crit is huge

#

Plus both shroud and chastise exist for free crits

crimson elk
#

not running piety lets you go into IJ

#

dont know why you count that as a downside

spare talon
#

And piety also allows those to have near permanent uptime

crimson elk
#

i'd understand for any other weapon considering knifes base crit

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just saying scourge already lets you consistently crit

spare talon
crimson elk
#

but its a different playstile with uncanny and purgation

#

IJ to clear mixed hordes

balmy olive
#

Cole and the Tem guy just make it sound like you're actively throwing the entire game by having bleed lmao. I never said that my meme knife with only bleed talents was good, and if you had read the conversation you would have saw I literally told someone to take lacerate off their knife for uncanny

crimson elk
#

uncanny lets both bleed and burn kill essentially everything

full nebula
#

this is another discussion about bleed in general now

balmy olive
#

and hence why I said "i made this for the luls"

#

yeah I didn't realize that talking about bleed was something political

fleet zealot
#

you aren't throwing game with bleed but it's not the best

#

and flesh tearer Always >>> lacerate

crimson elk
#

if piety sure

full nebula
#

i mean the reality is you can perform with terrible weapons with terrible attributes if you're good enough

left iron
#

This was your response

balmy olive
#

how am I moving the goal post, I literally said "you make it sound like you're throwing by having bleed", it's not like bleed is bad to have

median steeple
balmy olive
#

it's a dot you can set if you dont immediately kill something which can happen in practice

#

sometimes comparing things on paper does not account for actual gameplay

full nebula
#

bleed does help with chip damage when things are near dead, and moving from one enemy to the next in mixed hordes ie ragers whatever. But overall the actual mechanic of bleed is better for the crit proccing

left iron
#

It is a very mediocre DoT that could be something more useful, especially on knife where you sacrifice a blessing to get that mediocre DoT.

balmy olive
#

i had forgotten about the crit proccing, but I don't think that really invalidates my point, perhaps it strengthens it if anything. It's a DOT and it helps you proc crit, so bleed is something good LMAO

full nebula
#

bleed is good, but running bleed for the sake of it without crits isnt

balmy olive
#

sure but my point was bleed in general

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i never said that lacerate was better, again I literally told someone to take lacerate off their knife in the first place

fleet zealot
#

most of the extra damage is wasted/overkill anyways

#

it gets the kill credit because it's a ticking dot

full nebula
#

if you have uncanny/ft most of the time the crits go off before the bleed starts having a significant effect

left iron
#

And i never mentioned lacerate either, gee what a coincidence. Bleed still is very mediocre. Its use comes out of things you get out of when things bleed, not the actual DoT, oggy getting DR and not requiring a blessing slot from your weapon, for example. Zealot gets crit chance for a very high finesse multiplier weapon and TDR

fleet zealot
#

the +2 stacks per crit from scourge is more than plenty cause if something doesn't die in 8 crits it's a monstro and then bleed damage can add a bit on top but it's reduced anyways

balmy olive
#

also isn't bleed decent against monsters

spare talon
#

It literally deals like 25% less damage against them

balmy olive
#

ok my mistake

#

thank you for clarrifying that

#

i was wrong there

fleet zealot
#

damn i don't think they need the -25% vs monstros anymore, their hp so high

balmy olive
spare talon
#

Tho with my main build having scourge still gets the boss to 16 stacks of bleed with scourge alone
With a dclaw
And knives have higher base crit
I think you'll be fine lmao

left iron
#

Mhm, but that doesnt take anything away from my point

fleet zealot
#

yea lacerate argument for consistency falls on it's face when riposte exists and crit chance isn't hard to come by and knife having higher than normal crit chance anyways

fleet zealot
balmy olive
#

I understand why you say that with your numbers but from my personal experience i feel like the DOT has been fine with my blessings, but we can just agree to disagree

fleet zealot
#

not really you can run whatever you want

#

it's not an exceptionally hard game

full nebula
#

idk tell that to people who dont have hundreds of hours lol

spare talon
#

We're just the nerds who like the numbers

south folio
#

i do think that there's a valid justification for bleeding something and letting them die, but that is an "if you know, you know" situation
It's good nuff

north sedge
#

bleed is a hot point because it's been such a plague since the game launched, we've all had to do with some bleed zealot doing like 2.5 points of dmg

south folio
#

@ripe quest i can't stop thinking about caillou when i see your name

ripe quest
#

The value of running Flesh Tearer has always come into question due to the other blessings knife has. You can get bleed to work (see Ogryn, see Scourge on Zealot) but what ends up happening is you lose damage due to only having 2 slots to work with. Gotta compare it to what Executor, Riposte, and Precog offer. iirc even Haymaker had value over Flesh Tearer on the Mk VI.

Lacerate falls apart due to needing body shots, you replace the weakspot and crit weakspot modifier for bleed.

fleet zealot
#

lacerate flesh tearer won't stop showing up in my game

ripe quest
spare talon
#

We're bleeding you to death

south folio
#

😇

south folio
fleet zealot
#

yea lacerate does not compensate for the loss of weakspot damage, at least flesh tearer won't subtract anything from using it

left iron
#

Yes

stable cypress
#

at this point I think I'd prefer the lacerate flesh tearerers over no-chastise flamers b/c I'm getting the latter way more frequently somehow

balmy olive
#

can i say i hated the zealot loner penances

stable cypress
#

yes, most people do

balmy olive
#

felt like i had to run forward and int sometimes to get backstab kills

spare talon
#

Fuck those

balmy olive
#

wait how

full nebula
#

200 backstabs?

spare talon
#

Mmt

full nebula
#

idk i just got that naturally, dont think it took that long i wasnt really keeping track

balmy olive
#

every now and then on higher difficulties you get that mfer that can kill everything the minute it coems on screen

full nebula
#

if you guys don't use the punch and combo it with pushblock attack you should start practicing it

#

very good and useful

spare talon
#

That's me! kys

south folio
#

evil

left iron
full nebula
median steeple
#

What it's just a goofy smile saying keep yourself safe

south folio
#

so true

spare talon
fleet zealot
#

idk if it's people reading old information or using flamer poorly

ripe quest
full nebula
#

never cared for flamer, i cant go without revolver for specials

fleet zealot
#

but i can't believe people think it is bad

south folio
#

they RUINED it with the nerf

fleet zealot
#

there is something to be said that it practically railroads you into throwing knife+fotf

south folio
#

it's so joever

median steeple
obtuse stirrup
#

I use flamer with stealth

#

uncanny knife though

fleet zealot
#

and it's odd build requirements

obtuse stirrup
#

so I can get armour piercing that way

south folio
#

people are just really bad at estimating the performance of AoE weapons

#

people say it all the time about purg as well

spare talon
#

Purg FUCKS

stable cypress
#

I think a lot of people still don't know about armor reduction on chastise

full nebula
#

psyker when they have to put the staff away and use a melee weapon

fleet zealot
#

my issue with purge is that i don't need it or any other source of soulblaze outside my talents

spare talon
full nebula
#

i might consider flamer if every blessing for it wasnt broken

fleet zealot
#

it's too easy to run anything like void, smite, surge, and get practically the full benefit of soulblaze

#

blessings don't matter too much on flamer anyways

#

it's way more perk/mod score reliant

balmy olive
#

wait what about chastise

full nebula
#

they might if they worked correctly lmao

leaden pebble
#

im so happy this exists

fleet zealot
#

even if OP worked correctly it wouldn't drastically change anything

north sedge
#

Blaze away is all you need for flamer, it's very strong

ripe quest
full nebula
#

blaze away is busted on everything

#

nearly

south folio
#

inspiring barrage 😎

fleet zealot
spare talon
left iron
south folio
# balmy olive wait what about chastise

while chastise is active, you get the colloquially-named "armour downgrade" buff, where your attack treats carapace as flak and flak as unarmoured (in terms of armour damage modifiers)

balmy olive
south folio
#

so, if your weapon does 10 damage to crushers and 140, and you shoot at a crusher while FotF is active, you'll deal 140 damage

full nebula
#

explains why i see ragers get melted by it

#

still too slow for me

south folio
#

though they still count as carapace for the purposes of the +25% carapace damage weapon perk, so that will still affect crushers even while FotF is active

spare talon
#

Applies to tknives too

balmy olive
#

is that intended

spare talon
#

Yes

spare talon
balmy olive
#

ah

south folio
#

just completely unlisted

spare talon
#

It actually affects your melee hit too but it's consumed on hit

balmy olive
south folio
#

it's probably intended for melee only but, back in the days, darktide didn't really distinguish between melees and ranged weapons when handing out buffs

#

and i guess it's just stuck with us since

stable cypress
#

What's the best way to get the Flesh Wound penance? get a stealth zealot team and sneak/run through a low-intens mission?

full nebula
#

just dont get hit

#

ez

balmy olive
#

so true

full nebula
#

just have perfect movement and dodging

south folio
#

prob just bring a knife and run a short and/or linear mission like magistrati, chasm assassination, relay station, etc.

full nebula
#

have a vet spamming shout

balmy olive
#

have we been told what we even get for completing the crusade

spare talon
#

Iirc using bells for twins works too

south folio
#

you'll have plenty of time to spare if you're just running ahead

full nebula
#

2 vets

balmy olive
#

oh you just get ingame currency

#

was hoping it'd be a cosmetic like vermintide

full nebula
#

ha

#

sorry this company is half owned by tencent now

balmy olive
#

no.....it can't be

#

they were the chosen ones

north sedge
#

🤔

balmy olive
#

fellas i wanna see your worst weapon stats

full nebula
#

In January 2019, Tencent acquired about a 36% stake in Fatshark in a deal worth approximately 500 million kr (around US$56 million).[6]

spare talon
balmy olive
#

there's no way

#

i didnt even realize you could actually get a zero damage roll

full nebula
#

i had a voidstrike on my pskyer that was 0 damage at one point

balmy olive
#

i kinda wish i had saved my cursed rolls now

#

they would have been something to look at you know?

full nebula
#

a reminder of the good system and development

balmy olive
#

yeah for sure....

#

so something I read in the zealot guide interested me

#

does this apply for the flammer as well

#

and how much is it increased anyway

ripe quest
#

It's increased by the listed amount.

#

The Flamer has direct damage and stacks burn, so that'll ever so slightly change the numbers you see.

fleet zealot
visual stream
#

I have another one that's 10% damage

misty mason
#

Ooooh that SM2 trailer looked gud

#

Also Speed Freeks lmao, sounds like Mick Gordan did the soundtrack

fleet zealot
sterile stone
fleet zealot
umbral kindle
#

It's not the build that needs to be ready Hestia_WTF

#

It's your ravaged body

frosty herald
#

space marine 2 has a powerfist

visual blade
#

is this usable with low finesse?

#

😢

#

this one mb?

vocal pulsar
#

i'd just keep on buying

#

till i get equal 70~ stats

visual blade
#

this..?

vocal pulsar
#

or mobility dump stat

north sedge
#

Dump mobi

visual blade
#

nah i'm not getting any of these actually

#

like

#

it's always like a 50% ft

#

which, no

#

or like a 55 damage

#

mobis are always around the middle stat

#

please tell me this isn't garbage

#

i will cry

#

see what i mean

north sedge
#

mobi should be lowest at around ~50 everything else 70+ preferably

raven crane
#

meh whatever, atrocious perks but i get to play knife zealot like its 2022 again for a change

north sedge
raven crane
#

"heh. nothing pershonal, kid"

fleet zealot
spare talon
#

Not just for dump stab but so you don't OVERdodge

#

And dodge out of your swing range

ivory marlin
#

Bazinga

#

Cole

ivory marlin
#

Im now brave

median steeple
austere grail
#

After paying attention to how often I miss weakspot hits I now think lacerate is fine

spare talon
ivory marlin
#

Ok buddy

#

Jesus

spare talon
#

This isn't a flex
It's a cry for help

ivory marlin
#

I met a flawless 11 once

#

Almost made me quit

spare talon
#

That's a pvp god

#

Pvp destiny mains are actually quite annoying

#

They're so toxic and narcissistic

ivory marlin
#

Im only ever gonna touch gambit for pvp

ripe quest
ivory marlin
#

Exhil got the ich

#

Im fine with only ever getting brave

faint prairie
#

beans

spare talon
#

Which should tell how just how insane I am

ripe quest
spare talon
#

I grinded that alone
On geforce now
On a school issued macbook air

#

Most old raid titles too

#

You can clearly see where I stopped caring about doing everything

frosty herald
#

imagine we get a space marine 2 dlc with tau or drukhari

spare talon
#

Eventually

#

You'll likely do a dungeon and think it's the coolest shit ever and want to get the title for it

#

I think spire of the watcher is one of the coolest dungeons with a very accessible solo/solo flawless (for the title)
And getting the title WANTED is dope as fuck

frosty herald
#

bungie could earn alot of consumer opinion back if they just returned red war warmind curse of osiris forsaken and make every expansion be able to be downloaded seperately

#

like with cod letting you download zombies and not the basegame and multiplayer

median steeple
#

oh wait

#

nevermind you're mentally ill

spare talon
median steeple
#

yeah that is horrific

#

im fucking craving to do pantheon but my raid team is dead until saturday

spare talon
#

The same way I got rivensbane, shadow, blacksmith, and all other titles around that time

median steeple
#

we got to riven on the first night

#

I regret not getting shadow

spare talon
median steeple
#

yeah good call

spare talon
#

So we only had 3 swaps total as a team
And we did it first try

#

So fucking proud of that

median steeple
#

god I do miss some of the raid lairs

spare talon
#

I would kill to have scourge again

median steeple
#

need more fallen raids

#

gonna have to wait for WoTM

#

I need that SIVA armor in D2

#

cant wait for the 3 day prep for TFS day one raid

spare talon
#

My advice for riven

The vc thing I talk about is lowering everyone's volume on discord to 50% and raising the guy you're calling symbols or eyes with to 150%
And using this map, and clarifying whether it is "mid" or "no mid" on the second floor
Makes symbols an actual joke

median steeple
#

yeah riven is seems easier than I remember

#

Nez isnt a problem either since if you beat riven beforehand you dont need plat time for the HS

spare talon
#

Plus no plates means even less reliable dps spots

median steeple
#

I dont know why RoN is so buggy

zinc talon
median steeple
#

especially in planets

zinc talon
median steeple
#

fucking desyncing psions and incinerators

#

we're cooked as a species man

#

I just witnessed skibidi biden

spare talon
# median steeple I dont know why RoN is so buggy

I don't have the other clips on my phone since I'm at work but I have one where we move to dps and are waiting for him to be zapped then he just walks off the map right as it happens so we just miss the dps phase cuz he ended it the moment he teleported back up

frosty herald
#

Gaming is saved

spare talon
#

Not to mention all the times I get his hatred to dance with him then he just runs away to neverland to kill the runners

median steeple
#

yeah I love rhulk as a roaming boss but since nez is a tormentor its so bad

spare talon
#

If it wasn't for his ai
It would be a pretty decent encounter

#

But it's one of if not the worst boss fight in the game cuz of it

median steeple
#

I do hope they add shadow rhulk to normal or master

spare talon
zinc talon
spare talon
#

Same with rhulk and planets

zinc talon
#

new mask looks adequately weird

median steeple
#

yeah blinding nades just make shit super easy a lot of the time

spare talon
#

We used blinding nades too at nezzy for the immune colossus and tormentors too

zinc talon
spare talon
#

Cuz otherwise we'd have 2 deaths just getting to our spot

#

Or coming back from it

zinc talon
#

is this Dustyknee you're talking about

median steeple
#

I assume you get crazy score in nez yea

#

the dedicated score modifier is crazy good

#

fucking 4.5m is the lowest I've seen

#

without plat time

#

hadron blessing my thammer before fucking it up

spare talon
#

Nezzy stands at the green spot

#

And we are at the yellow along the wall base of the plant that goes up through the giant beam thing

zinc talon
#

idk why the nose on the mask im mediately bothers me

#

I already have a nose I'm one of the lucky few that hasn't has theirs shot off

median steeple
#

yeah nez allows for some stupid DPS spots I've seen others that are also off the map

median steeple
#

uncanny valley of noses

zinc talon
#

zealots gear is a rework except the hood

#

black instead of red and metal instead of gilded

#

gonna have some nice mix and match suits using them

spare talon
#

But the team I got said it was far better than the other spots they tried

median steeple
#

did ya'll use cataphract or apex with gally

#

wait did you LFG it?

zinc talon
spare talon
#

And yes I lfged it

median steeple
spare talon
#

Team I got there with was also lfg but I did last week's with them easily and just joined em again for this weeks

#

They called it to sleep then but I had both the cp with riven kill active and hours before I had to sleep
So it was worth a shot

#

Got an actual good team

#

Didn't even ask for rr or anything lol

median steeple
#

damn bro found the holy grail of LFG teams

#

did you hear about the 17hour -5 pantheon

spare talon
#

No lmao

#

Nezzy still took like 2.5 hours tho

#

Was awful

zinc talon
spare talon
#

But no doubt the hardest one

zinc talon
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new backpack fits flawlessly with the psucker suit

median steeple
zinc talon
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but can be worn by all 3

median steeple
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damn that new backpack is fucking cool

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may have to pick it up

spare talon
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@median steeple this lip is the exact spot

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Hatred holder has to drag him over there

median steeple
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interesting

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thanks for the info

spare talon
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But he cannot retaliate when he's over there and yall are on the lip

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Blinding gl helps get ppl over there safely

fleet zealot
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another 2 weeks where there is no good helmet for my zealot

median steeple
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you will take your sack and you will like it