zealot-class

[maiden path]

i wanna see my armor

[zinc talon]

I've had one guy punch me off a terminal when I was level 10 and another guy (both with eastern characters for their name) use all 3 barrages in a small map defend

380 then 120 then walking then 380 then

[spare talon]

https://open.spotify.com/track/0CjJJrpnQCpQMsT4nzezII?si=8b752ef2e64248d0

[zinc talon]

if you live for long enough the cape will get all tattered

I've lost maybe half of it but it takes a minute

two maybe

[maiden path]

i want no cape!!

https://tenor.com/view/odst-helmet-scifi-soldier-helmet-on-gif-19367981

on some real shit

[zinc talon]

https://tenor.com/view/edna-no-capes-mode-incredibles-gif-8203362

[maiden path]

i need me an odst mod

[zinc talon]

so the latest news flash in the ship says that the sec ond galactic war is now on for us

fighting both fronts

[maiden path]

https://tenor.com/view/odst-helmet-on-halo-gif-26256147

[zinc talon]

and that close to 100% of the able bodied population has volunteered

[maiden path]

i have to kill all those fucking bugs

[zinc talon]

that's uh

[undone pewter]

Capes make you the helldiver there is no no Cape option.

[zinc talon]

oh, and high 70% of almost-able bodied people too

that's uh

[maiden path]

wah wah wah

i dont want my fucking cape

!!!

[undone pewter]

All men, women and children over the age of 7 will help fight

[zinc talon]

indicitave of us being on our last legs as a faction

[maiden path]

im killing bugs and blowing up robots im a helldiver enough

[zinc talon]

like we're already defeated we';re just gonna die shooting

[maiden path]

u aint gonna look at me and go 'no cape, he's not a helldiver'

[zinc talon]

not good

there's a cape that's like

[maiden path]

even without our feet we still got our hands to hold guns!!!!

[zinc talon]

as long as your shoulderblade one side and your butt the other

it's caddywompus on its length

[maiden path]

wow this game takes awhile to load

[zinc talon]

orange and black so prolly democratic detonation

[maiden path]

that or i just hit an inf load

[zinc talon]

load into mission?

stuck on the pods going down?

[maiden path]

i loaded in during extraction

and fucking crashed into the extraction ship 😭

[zinc talon]

did it uh

did you uh

[maiden path]

yes i leeched

on accident

[zinc talon]

oh not that who cares gimme free stuff

not your fault you matchmake at the end

did you pop the ship

or kill the ppl inside

[maiden path]

how do i quickmatch into starting games

i was trying to im not gonna lie

[zinc talon]

well first of all

[maiden path]

but i didnt kill anyone

[zinc talon]

turn off fucking crossplay immediately

[maiden path]

oh

u got it boss

[zinc talon]

then all your games will be with PC players

and it won't be so hectic to join

one thing to note tho, when you turn off crossplay for whatever reason your social menu loses entire windows

friend requests and I think recent players

so turn that on to send friend requests then turn it off again

console players get what they deserve

[maiden path]

waht did they do

[zinc talon]

once that's off, you can reliably load into 75-80% of the games on the board, even at 3/4

they dared to think they were people

[maiden path]

is it a pc loading into console issue

[zinc talon]

and vice versa

[maiden path]

i have a ps5 like 15 inches from mer

[zinc talon]

and also there are so many new console players right now, the matchmaking goes haywire

cuz it can't update the map fast enough to keep up with all the quickjoins

so every mission you see is almost always full and/or private

with that off it's just pc players and the map can keep pace with who has a spot for you to join

plus pc players are hands down better at the game

and can TYPE

[maiden path]

thats not fair to them!!

how do i type

[zinc talon]

chat? press enter

wait you're not on a ps5 are you

https://tenor.com/view/fry-futurama-suspicious-squint-gif-15326860

[maiden path]

why is there a level 95 here

no

it was cheaper on steam i think

[zinc talon]

what tier are you playing at

he might be helping the rank 9, could be buddies

[sterile stone]

Either that or farming mats

Or creds

[zinc talon]

if it's like difficulty 6-7 that rank 9 is gonna get mulched without a lifeguard

I heard a good one for farming actually, I don't do it cuz man it sounds boring

but you get your own campaign, get one mission finished

then swap to a 12 or 15 minute mission that's got a tiny compactyed area for pickups

[sterile stone]

I mean it's better than darktide

[zinc talon]

go grab what you can, and right before the timer ends you crash outta the game

[sterile stone]

Atleast you CAN buy the premium content without spending an additional penny

[zinc talon]

you keep all the SCs and medals etc you picked up

but the campaign reverts to the start of that mission

and the pickups are always in the same place

so if you get a juicy map layout you can just run a memorized track and crash, keep your resource pickups and revert the mission to start

[maiden path]

its medium 😭

[zinc talon]

oh he'll be fine, so will you

[maiden path]

how do i not fight automatons

everytime

[zinc talon]

choose the yellow sectors

on the right

[maiden path]

quickmatch keeps putting me in automatons!!

[zinc talon]

the global condition right now is everyone gets gas strike artillery for free

so essentially you bring 5 calldowns

plus gas is fuckin top tier

and slept on

[sterile stone]

Okri you're gonna have to give beb a moment

Bro's brain running on windows 98

[zinc talon]

you need to move from the planet you're on, to a terminid planet

do that by picking a mission campaign on a yellow sector planet

[maiden path]

how do i do the headbutt

[zinc talon]

you'll FTL there, then just back out of mission prep and hit quickplay

it's an emote you get from the warbonds

[sterile stone]

It's a emote you unlock

Via warbonds

[zinc talon]

lol I'm firing on all 8 cylinders cuz of the subject changes but it's fun I enjoy handing out tips and tricvks and QoL boosts

I tunnelvisioned waiting for a job to start and fired off like two pages of whatever I thought of right then

[sterile stone]

Lmao

[zinc talon]

starts about here

maybe a lil before

[sterile stone]

I need to get back into the game

[zinc talon]

yeah it wasn't just two pages lol

[sterile stone]

Been a minute

[zinc talon]

yeah the new stuff is hands down great

not really any bugs or mission glitches either

[sterile stone]

I heard the newer guns ain't in their final stages

[zinc talon]

some bugs will stand in place if you bait them a certain way

[sterile stone]

Planned on coming back once they get fixes

[zinc talon]

and the game still instacrashes

naw they've more or less worked them out

[sterile stone]

I've thankfully never had that

[zinc talon]

the big one was the airburst launcher, when it debuted it was left click to kill the whole team

unironically

it's been fixed and is now a ton of fun to use

just, fire it fuckoff down the road

[sterile stone]

I fucking loved that thing

[zinc talon]

mines are really useful now as well

[sterile stone]

The dual auto cannon mech hasn't released yet has it?

Nor has the APC or Warthog type vehicle?

[zinc talon]

one inciendiery field got me my new top score without any added shooting

36 I think

I think the actual thing they did is reduce the damage blasts do to your teammates

and increase how much damage you don't take being prone when an explosion you're too close to goes off

that'll save your ass so hit the dirt whenever you're about to get pasted

artillery and airbursts especially feel a lot more forgiving than before

[sterile stone]

Yeah I heard fire at one point insta killed

Like it got severly overtuned

[zinc talon]

still mostly does

it ticks maybe twice a second and takes maybe 10% each time

I get that all you have to do is dive to put it out immediately but sometimes it can take you a second and a half, two to dive

and that'll kill you

the big bile spitters are also silly stupid strong

but that's timing the dive

don't dive until they start to spit, and dive at a right angle or forward, and away to the side, of them

anything else and they'll catch your pinkie toe and take unironically three quarters of your health

you hve to dodge after they start spitting cuz they'll pan their head mid-spit and catch up with you if you dive too early

cuz when you hit the ground after diving you're immobile for a moment, so you have to maximize your airtime distance to avoid them turning their heads at you while puking

[maiden path]

how many medium missions do I have to do

jesuis

ive done like 5

[meager turret]

For what?

[maiden path]

helldiver!!!

[burnt ivy]

Welp did a 400k damage Auric Heresy with a chainsword

[zinc talon]

You need to host the highest tier mission you can start to unlock the next tier I think

[ivory marlin]

Yall remember when they did surgery on a grape

[meager turret]

Pretty sure it was just complete 1 full operation on the highest available difficulty to get the next, host or not shouldn't matter

[zinc talon]

Very well could be, I got mine very quickly before I even knew what was going on around me

[maiden path]

thats so stupid

wtf...

samples are so scarce jhesus

how am I supposed to get 50 of these fuckers

[lean lark]

by playing the game

[maiden path]

yes

but it gonna take 400 milion hours

[sterile stone]

https://tenor.com/view/dumpster-man-throw-out-trash-gif-14761446

[tropic pelican]

More spawn on the map the higher the difficulty

[ivory marlin]

Ok but do you remember?

[tropic pelican]

There's also a strat for a drone that recons the whole map so you can see em on radar

But you may have to do an op to unlock it

Oh wait, is this hd1 or 2

I scrolled up, you still get more on higher difficulties but nevermind the rest of my advice

[maiden path]

ok fuck u too super earth

this looks so cool

do I have to complete the first warbond thing

to unlock the second one?

[obsidian prairie]

You can do them in any order you just need 1000 credits to unlock passes other than the first

1000 each

Only 100 random credit drops

[maiden path]

but i can get them for free

easy as pie

[obsidian prairie]

Yeah

[maiden path]

how does this game not have an ODST armor mod

it has a helmet mod for ODST

[obsidian prairie]

Just takes a damn minute though

By the way I recommend Cutting Edge first, solely for the Sickle

[maiden path]

is that the one with the robot arms

[obsidian prairie]

It’s the one with the lightning effects

Blue

Very blue

[maiden path]

wtf!!

but robot arm......

[obsidian prairie]

That one also has the best sidearm though

Robot arms and big iron

[frosty herald]

The best primary

The dominator

[ivory marlin]

Is this good or bad i forget

This is good right?

Wait

No

Thats bad

[ember yew]

https://youtu.be/tTKX_nto9V4

this is peak content

by ubisoft

fyi Likes Vs Dislikes on JP video is 10% to 90%

[zinc talon]

my ship module unlocks are like 200 or 250, 150 or 200, 15 super samples, and 25 req slips

when you find your feet and start running 5+s as a minimum people start really tracking samples

I usually extract on a good mission with 10-15 commons and 5-10 rares

super samples are their own chapter don't sweat those at all yet those will come at tier 7

I'm gonna run a couple jobs if you're still playing

oh. Huge QoL boost if yall weren't doing it already: When you don't have the client loaded, and use the right click context menu on your steam friends list to join a friend's game, the client skips playing the intro movie, skips loading you into your own ship, and skips you matchmaking in-game and waiting for it to go through

the client loads directly into their ship, first order of business

it might be the fastest friend-join I've seen in a game, it's impressive

it's even quicker to crash out of your game then right click join them in the steam friends list than it is to leave your mission and matchmake over to their ship

[frosty herald]

You run high difficulty missions

Beb is going to be level 7 doing impossible lmao

[zinc talon]

that's why you don't LET HIM KNOW EARLY so I can COAX HIM IN?TO IT and RECORD THE SCREAMING

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/elden-ring-shadows-of-the-erdtree-shadows-of-the-erdtree-elden-ring-elden-ring-dlc-dlc-gif-9906213538967894032

[zinc talon]

taking people who're just getting into the game into tier 5-7s is straight comedy gold the entire time

[frosty herald]

7 is a good spot for difficulty

But like darktide some very underprepared people do the difficulty

[meager turret]

Sometimes I wonder if we're actually just getting griefed/trolled with some of the people I come across

[frosty herald]

I have had multiple 10+ people join my lobby

I wont kick them

But i already know theyre needing to be carried

[meager turret]

I don't mind inexperienced players and even find it kind of fun when they randomly pop into my aurics. But woefully selfish goobers are something else I'd rather avoid completely

[lean lark]

which is why instead you leave

because thats a weight you cannot bear

[coarse birch]

i have simply accepted that if i am playing with randos if i die the mission is over

[frosty herald]

Lotta people that dont pick you up or shoot a dog infront of em

[steep flame]

cyberpunk 2077 is unrealistic in the fact that rock stars still exist and havent been replaced by ai

[long kelp]

Best knife for zealot ?

[steep flame]

the first one i think

[long kelp]

Mk3 ?

[quaint verge]

Depends on what you want

[long kelp]

Heavy backstab

[quaint verge]

Then mk3

Mk6 is mostly decent on horde and elite

You can add haymaker for mk 6 and get funny elite kill once in a while

Since its heazvy are most slashes instead of stabs

H3 then punch goes to stabs

H3 is a stab as well

[subtle parcel]

hey i need two opinions asap, what is the most fun zealot build

[hushed agate]

Marty fotf

Evis

[steep flame]

hell yeah

love marty evis

marty paul goes hard too

[hard nexus]

thunderhammer

martyrdom thunder hammer

[earnest cypress]

i'd like to complain about the turtolsky heavy; idk why it doesn't decapitate enemies. Only two things that do that reliably in zealot are the axe and the catachan sword

i feel like the turtolsky should be dismembering when i swing it, not limply shoving a poxie two feet to the side

[vague wing]

What does it mean when it says that mask of the vengeful changes player voice? is it just new voicelines or a full out on new voice for everything?

[oak ermine]

It's a voice filter

either voice muffling or amplification

[vague wing]

aah okay ty

[wintry forge]

what build does the heavy swords work best in

[south folio]

anything where you have your carapace damage covered by something else

since that's the only particularly sore spot of the hswords

e.g., if you're running fury of the faithful, go ham

[coarse birch]

Id also maybe take unyielding damage, hsword isnt terrible but can be a bit slow into not plogryn just in case you need to solo or nobody brought boss damage

[noble ingot]

How exactly do I do this? If I have only two Wounds, as long as I stay below 50% HP, I'm fine, right?

[frozen glen]

yep

[noble ingot]

would be nice to do this one today, I'm only 10 points away from the final drip

[coarse birch]

Damn redverse havent seen you here in a while

[frozen glen]

whos that

[hushed knoll]

HI REEVGERSI

REGBERS

[frozen glen]

oh my god

[hushed knoll]

REDGERS

[coarse birch]

LMAO

[hushed knoll]

REDVETSE

FUCK

[coarse birch]

Stan

Please

[hushed knoll]

REDVERSE

There we go

[coarse birch]

You killed them

[frozen glen]

liveleak industrial incinerator

[coarse birch]

Redverse did not deserve that

[hushed knoll]

His name is hard

[south folio]

he ABSOLUTELY does

[coarse birch]

Mess it up 5 times hard?

[south folio]

ANNIHILATE HIM FOR ME, STAN

[hushed knoll]

Why are you named archery

[south folio]

i wonder why

[frozen glen]

kill arco

[hushed knoll]

When did I do that

[frozen glen]

weird ass entity

[coarse birch]

Note how the people mean to you are nice to me minus josho?

Curious

Im seeing a pattern

[south folio]

do you know about the incident with redverse

what he's done

[hushed knoll]

Arco needs to be exfoliated with volcanic beads

[frozen glen]

there is no incident

[coarse birch]

Maybe?

[south folio]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/897990245658787881.webp?size=80&quality=lossless

[coarse birch]

You probably told me at some point

[hushed knoll]

I legit love the body wash with shell pieces in it

[south folio]

i'll do you one up

i'll show you it

[frozen glen]

if he brings up a clip from 5 years ago

[south folio]

the deep evilness of REEVGERSI that he hides

[coarse birch]

99% chance i agree with redverse

I didnt even have an incident and you want me dead

[wintry forge]

what does the heavy sword do different than the devils claw swords, other than their special attacks

[south folio]

better base stats and better blessings

[hushed knoll]

Arco do you like cold soup

[frozen glen]

arco having to contain all this hatred in such a miniature vessel must be real difficult

is that why you spread your evil to so many innocents

[south folio]

uhh, depends on what type of soup

i like soups of the dessert variety cold

https://streamable.com/efwjbz

[frozen glen]

its a clip from 5 years ago

kill arco

[south folio]

kill REEVGERSI

annihilate him into dust

[frozen glen]

when he was still using brainburst

when i had 1k levels less

when ice was still playing psyker

[faint cape]

a clip from Darktide(2005)

[frozen glen]

and josho had only started his ogryn addiction

[coarse birch]

LMAO

L

[south folio]

evil men like you do not change in just 5 years

[south folio]

you sick bastard

[coarse birch]

Arco

There was a time

Where id say damn that sucks

[south folio]

kill yoshi

then, now is the time to annihilate yoshi

[hushed knoll]

Holy shit I’m eating stained glass rn

[coarse birch]

And then you continued to push me

[hushed knoll]

So good

[coarse birch]

And push me

Its lead to this moment

[frozen glen]

arco is evil

[nimble fiber]

lol

[south folio]

i am a product of my environment

[coarse birch]

(Realistically this is unfortunate)

[south folio]

whereas people like redverse are irredeemably evil and must be killed

[frozen glen]

arco still thinks of that one kid in preschool that took his icecream

[coarse birch]

However this is one incident

[south folio]

he too will die

[dense field]

The absolute DISRESPECT in that action is enough to start a gang war

[coarse birch]

Arco has 2 million

[frozen glen]

casualties

[nimble fiber]

he probably turned him into a icecream machine

[wintry forge]

i still remember the kid in preschool that bit my finger so i bit his whole arm

[south folio]

not yet

there was some 1st year in highschool messing with me at the school yard so i smeared my saliva over him

i contemplated licking him but decided that my hand will do

[nimble fiber]

man ice cream would hit different rn

[wintry forge]

wtf lmao

[coarse birch]

Why did you admit to this

Did he stop at least

[south folio]

i will ANNIHILATE my enemies

[coarse birch]

Wait

[south folio]

yeah he did

[steep flame]

please fatshark give me a ludwigs holy blade for zealot

[south folio]

he got disgusted

[frozen glen]

arco

.......................

[south folio]

i only did it since i didn't want to get in trouble for violence

[nimble fiber]

I dont know how to feel about that

[coarse birch]

Does this mean

🤨

[south folio]

I am a sworn pacifist 😇

[nimble fiber]

I dont want ice cream anymore

[frozen glen]

his wickedness is rooted deeper than i thought

its an inherent trait for him

[south folio]

i believe in non-violent ways to handle people

[coarse birch]

Yeah ok

[nimble fiber]

like a dance off

[south folio]

horrifying

[nimble fiber]

arco did u battle dance with people

[coarse birch]

You threatened to put me in a volcano

[south folio]

no

[south folio]

yeah i would've put you into a volcano

nowhere in that sentence are words like "kill" and "murder"

[nimble fiber]

could also be a volcano bong

[coarse birch]

Ngl if arco challenged me to a dance off he would win id off myself instead

[nimble fiber]

totally harmless

[hushed knoll]

WHADYA TALKIN ABEET

[south folio]

non-violence 😇

[south folio]

live in fear of your name being changed

[coarse birch]

Arco weve been over this

[nimble fiber]

nah

[coarse birch]

You need me

[nimble fiber]

Im safe I think

[south folio]

who else will be my punching bag

[nimble fiber]

stan's typing sense has asraval I think

[frozen glen]

fates worse than death

[hushed knoll]

ASRAVAL I will preserve you in multiple layers of volcanic ash

[coarse birch]

I am like the batman to your joker

[south folio]

so true!!!!

[nimble fiber]

wha

[coarse birch]

That sounded more proposalish than intended

[frozen glen]

the man to your jonkler

[coarse birch]

Stop

No

Bad

[hushed knoll]

I want you to be my personal Pompeii figurine

[nimble fiber]

I just woke up

[hushed knoll]

Why so late

[coarse birch]

Its 8

[nimble fiber]

literally just got out of my dream now this

[hushed knoll]

It’s 2 in getnanywye

[nimble fiber]

late night sesh

[hushed knoll]

Germany

[south folio]

so nice that your wake up time coincided with stan

[hushed knoll]

I got drunk last night like I told you lol

[nimble fiber]

fuck yeah

[coarse birch]

Arco do not ignore my statement

[nimble fiber]

how was it stan

[hushed knoll]

Cuz I’m by myself and it’s glorious

But I told you that right

[south folio]

what a nice time to be awake at 5

[nimble fiber]

yee

[hushed knoll]

It was great but I think I acted the fool in discord

[coarse birch]

A little

[nimble fiber]

I was also in a drinking mood but didn't follow trough

[coarse birch]

Although its expected

[hushed knoll]

I blame rough

Rough

Diana

Dough

[nimble fiber]

did I miss something major?

[coarse birch]

No

[hushed knoll]

God dammit my phone sucks ass

[coarse birch]

Uh huh

[nimble fiber]

how even

u know what nvm

[hushed knoll]

I’m drinking Howie rn

Coffee

A d moaning

And

[nimble fiber]

poor howie

[frozen glen]

what

[coarse birch]

Ayo

[hushed knoll]

I’m playing AC odyssey

[nimble fiber]

u are moaning?

[hushed knoll]

For the first time

I like it

Odyssey I mean

Not the morning

Moaning

[nimble fiber]

so much that u moan?

[frozen glen]

did you climb the giant statue with the balls on it

[hushed knoll]

You are about to be dunked in boysenberry wine

[hushed knoll]

Oh yeah I grabbed his penis and Alexios commented I shouldn’t

[hushed knoll]

THIS IS A VALID QUESTION

[nimble fiber]

thats wild stan

IS IT

????

[south folio]

come on asraval let's not be contrarians

[frozen glen]

its not a mech fight the babies arent controlling the mothers

[hushed knoll]

Pregnant women fighting is just a fun dam fight for babies

Gundam

[coarse birch]

Yeah they have no control

And also cant see it

[nimble fiber]

come on arco show me your dance moves

[south folio]

you sick bastard

[hushed knoll]

Arco have you ever controlled someone from inside the womb

[nimble fiber]

[south folio]

what is a good answer to such a question

what am i supposed to say

[coarse birch]

Arcos not nearly cool enough for that

[south folio]

i feel as if a metaphorical gun is pointed at me

[nimble fiber]

literally nothing

[frozen glen]

arco isnt one from a womb

he is an amalgamation of the world's malice

[south folio]

you would know best

[nimble fiber]

Imma just imagine somebody coming in, new, knowing nothing of this server, and seeing stan type something like this

no context whatsoever

[south folio]

ah, to be young again

the age before knowing stan

[frozen glen]

is that stanskiy

[coarse birch]

Very recent yes

[nimble fiber]

the stan pregnant moment yes

[north sedge]

You'll never guess what he tried to say

[south folio]

let's play a guessing game!!!

[nimble fiber]

stutter?

[south folio]

you cheater

[nimble fiber]

lmao I totally didn't look or anything

[south folio]

DAMNIT

you're too good

[nimble fiber]

and I totally wasn't there when it happened

[south folio]

oh

damnit

[nimble fiber]

[south folio]

i hope you get pregnant

[nimble fiber]

what

I hope u get pregnant twice

[south folio]

wtf

[coarse birch]

Arco cannot produce life

I would assemble the avengers to stop it

[nimble fiber]

I almost typed a stan level sentence

but I stopped myself

[quaint verge]

[south folio]

so you're just like him

[nimble fiber]

no

[nimble fiber]

I can stop myself

[south folio]

impossible

[nimble fiber]

how can cheese be this awesome

[frozen glen]

this world will fall to ruin if arco has learned to procreate

[south folio]

why would it wall to ruin if i knew how to use a drawing program??????

[nimble fiber]

would arco just be a sort of flood like entity?

[frozen glen]

i think we are safe

[frozen glen]

worse

[nimble fiber]

oh god

[south folio]

i will eventually unlock the powers of asexual reproduction

[frozen glen]

maybe ask exhil on how asexuals reproduce

strange creatures

[vocal pulsar]

Arco not good person

Fyi

[south folio]

thank u for your worthless input

[quaint verge]

Umami

[vocal pulsar]

Oo momy

[coarse birch]

Thank you mankar

[nimble fiber]

the day I get lactose intolerant I will not accept it and keep eating cheese

[vocal pulsar]

Arco is not people

Arco is goose

[south folio]

lactase pills babeeeeeeeee

[nimble fiber]

truuuue

[south folio]

inhumans have no right to speak of the inhumanity of others

[vocal pulsar]

A goose, of the silly variety

@south folio

[queen slate]

What perks/blessings should I aim for in the hammer when doing the crucis 1 shot build as a zealot ?

Im currently running Matyrdom with the hammer too

[frank night]

Greetings mankar

[abstract quail]

notice a lot of high level zealots bring throwing knives while also bringing a finesse secondary like revolver. Is it to kill nurgle blessed elites or something that I’m missing? Seems redundant in hindsight

[drowsy steppe]

thrust and headtaker

grab the backstab node at the top right also

and the node that adds 20% unyielding damage

[wintry forge]

do you guys have builds where you don't actually spec in that 20% unyielding damage

[ember yew]

No, it's because throwing knife route is great to get TWBS and still be relevant in terms of points available

it also depends on melee weapon

[wintry forge]

knives feel way too good to pass up

killing annoying specials with one tap of a button is such a big convenience

[frosty herald]

you havent heard about immo grenades

[ember yew]

if you are going a melee that can use momentum node, you can then go for fire grenade, which is million times more useful than a knife, especially on overcrowded maelstrom mission and even better with +Blitz

but not all weapons allow to pick fire grenade and not suffer some heavy losses

[wintry forge]

i like the other two nades but i feel like if you use throwing knives well, you usually wont really find yourself in a position where the other two nades shine

[ember yew]

im too lazy to write a long answer to that

[wintry forge]

but yeah ik different situations makes the blitz choices shine

[south folio]

fire on ground go brrr
but yeah the top-right branch is so good

[ember yew]

both are good choices and good in certain situations

just different ones

[south folio]

on most builds, I don't have points to take +20% unyielding and that's one of the first things that i give up

[ember yew]

anoint in blood is so good too, i cry inside everytaem when im forced to give up on that

[misty nova]

I sure don't have a build without that

[south folio]

alas, my piety knife build demands points elsewhere

[ember yew]

FS just need

to pump level limit to 35

like in Vermintide

but then they will nerf everything

[wintry forge]

what weapons makes anoint in blood worth taking for the breakpoints actually

[summer tree]

Level limit 150

Pog

[north sedge]

Nerfs should happen anyway

[summer tree]

I like the damage we do now for the difficulties we have, imo, instead of nerfs they should add another difficulty level

Like a genuine good old one, nor a modifier

[wintry forge]

i wish leveling past 30 actually rewarded you for something

like your xp gets funneled into vermintide loot system

[north sedge]

Game can't handle anymore spawns and such

In the very least chop cdr off at the knees

[summer tree]

I agree but it's not always about spawns, but if we're being honest this spawning bug where there's less enemies than there's supposed to be doesn't exactly do the game justice difficulty wise

[ornate bone]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/442197449201942528/1241376305467887646/tiktok-7357978937009573166.mp4?ex=6649f946&is=6648a7c6&hm=a5a5c7d12d922efc9fbc7373ed263d0e1498796ece5e7978783adb083c737485&

[summer tree]

Don't talk to me or my son ever again

[abstract quail]

doesn't seem to really matter evis knives even ironhelms, haven't really seen a single grenade carrier in a while on maelstrom

[misty nova]

Hmmm Eviscerator throwing knife

With bloodthirsty the knives should have 100% crit

Something to test later

[drowsy steppe]

yes

0 talent nodes

[zinc talon]

I guess someone else could explain how/why but I've never seen a reason not to take it

unyielding is the armor class you're most commonly running up against to do your Big Brain Zealot Moves like field boss kill and noping crusher packs

[south folio]

crusher is entirely carapace

[zinc talon]

oh wait I meant bulwark/reaper

[summer tree]

My Brain is carapace

[zinc talon]

yeah mine too obvz

[south folio]

i always take these points in any build i run

[zinc talon]

twins are the only real challenge mission I can think of that don't use unyielding anywhere

[south folio]

so i only have 7 points to play around with depending on the weapon

[zinc talon]

and the one needed talent below that to get there, is a quarter extra shooting damage

[south folio]

on martyr, i opt to take good balance instead of purge, so judgement builds are the only ones where i have enough points and reason to take +20%

and piety builds never have the points for it

[zinc talon]

huh so you just mulch maniacs/flak/cara I guess and do what you can on the unyielding hits

I can see it

[south folio]

and i'm fine with being "good enough" against unyielding

[zinc talon]

I've tried out zealot several different ways since the careers update, but every spare point or branch I think I can pull gets me closer and closer to this setup

[wintry forge]

wtf mid tree chad

[zinc talon]

I just can't give up the bible thumping, corruption eating speed tank

[wintry forge]

ive never seen anyone take that aura

[zinc talon]

oh I swear by it, in places like twins/gas aurics it totally shines

[wintry forge]

what weps do you use with that build

[zinc talon]

it removes the corruption before it has a chance to build most times

Crusher's my most used go-to but I'll use the evis for a change of pace or if the mission's particular

[wintry forge]

ive been wanting to make a support zealot build for a while now

[zinc talon]

and I giggle around with all the other chain variants

yeah this^ crit cooldown reduction max recharge holy relic can turn the entire mission pacing

it heals, it stuns, it lols field bosses off ledges because it actually stuns 7 times

that and the stun grenades and you can push pause on the entire situation more or less every room

when the crusher or eviscerator swings with all the bells and whistles going, they're I think 85%

and each crit you cleave with is its own cooldown reduction

[rigid trellis]

immo nades and relic can go well together if you stun them in the fire

[zinc talon]

my crusher can take ten full seconds off per light swing if I'm really in the middle of it

[ripe quest]

Nice to know, my build will enjoy this.

[zinc talon]

lol

[south folio]

wh

[fleet zealot]

Yea if im taking relic im taking immo nades

[south folio]

you're deranged

[zinc talon]

crushers are their own lil puzzle

[plucky sparrow]

pretty weak tbh you could've rolled a bit more carapace dmg, just scrap it

[fleet zealot]

Need the extra damage when im channeling

[wintry forge]

shouldve changed the name to +20% damage (carapace armoured enemies) too

[south folio]

showing a message with +20% only and not +25%

[zinc talon]

cuz when your crusher gets going, and they're ragdolling across the room, your powerups and light/heavy combos can chump a t5 grade in four, five, six hits

[south folio]

that screenshot carries with it an implicit threat

evil

[zinc talon]

but they've got that automatic mandatory 2.5 second stun immunity after they get up

[fleet zealot]

Crusher activated l1 doesnt stun crushers anymore on the first hit i believe

[wintry forge]

what could possibly be like

[zinc talon]

so the question becomes when do I knock this guy on his ass to kill him before he stands back up

[wintry forge]

the most supportive ranged zealot weapon

flamer?

[fleet zealot]

Not like that is a big issue tho you can just do it again

[zinc talon]

flamer or bolter

you can reach out and help your squaddies with the bolter when you get the rounds on target

[wintry forge]

i really wanna start using the flamer but man does it kinda

feel like ass

[zinc talon]

but that's the trick aint it

[wintry forge]

am i using it wrong or what

[fleet zealot]

Probably

[south folio]

hold rmb lmb and call it a day

[fleet zealot]

It’s reliant on mod scores 76% burn and 76% cloud radius

[south folio]

you probably won't enjoy flamethrower weapons in general

[fleet zealot]

For chaff you just do short bursts of rmb

[rigid trellis]

do you use chastise while burning?

[zinc talon]

a while back I made a couple short videos with some explanation on how I gitted lurndt with the flamer

how to get more stacks with less fuel spent

[fleet zealot]

Also it isn’t that supportive because you have to take fury of the faithful to really make it shine

Fury of the faithful turns it from okay to amazing

[zinc talon]

which one's that

[rigid trellis]

charge

[fleet zealot]

Chastise

Ctw “upgrade”

[zinc talon]

oh, I thought we were talkin about bible thump still

[south folio]

still very good w/o chastise but it does elevate it to another level

[zinc talon]

cuz it's fantastic with the relic

[fleet zealot]

Yea i think biblethump and flamer isn’t good

[zinc talon]

besides the flamer's feelin a lot more feisty now that they reworked its stagger/suppresion with the left click puffity

you can use it to shut hallways and bridges up with just a couple puffs even over their heads

but it won't be, because the flamer puff goes through terrain and cover to an extent

[fleet zealot]

Puff is such a meme a this point it should just be pyro air blast

Actually, write that down for a flamer variant xd

[zinc talon]

heh it'll pop bursters too, first time it happened to me I was thankful I had on the brown pants

[rigid trellis]

damn blowing bomber nades back at them with a flamer puff sounds sick

[fleet zealot]

You can now airblast enemy grenades, making them friendly (the gas turns yellow)

[zinc talon]

nope, that was just me, you might want to keep moving

rebreathers, maybe

I haven't found much of anything for the alternate attack, only thing is a burster push

maybe an around the corner walkin into something

so I fit a flashlight as silly as it sounds

the cone of the light being projected out is like, a constant aiming reticle for where the cone of flame is going to be when I fire

[south folio]

is nice but we also live in a world where we have a lot of easily accessible stagger and also don't really have a need for it besides the deranged levels of stagger like nades/voc/trauma/smite

https://streamable.com/jxsijh

it comes up useful sometimes though

(this is pre-nerf ragers)

[royal vortex]

i miss old arco graphics where the entire room would be smooth

[zinc talon]

heh tac axe / flamer zealot in a maniac/charger auric condition

[south folio]

like glancing into your own brain

but such times are in the past

[royal vortex]

wtf

[frosty herald]

You arent recovering from that josh

[ornate bone]

Are you guys saying Arco upgraded to an Intel HD 4000?

[ornate bone]

Smite spammer

https://tenor.com/view/walter-white-let-him-cook-cook-cooking-breaking-bad-gif-27522167

[wintry forge]

wtf when i use it, nothing gets staggered

[south folio]

that be the LMB, which has more stagger than the RMB

more stagger, less burn application and damage

here's a showcase of the flamer into a ranged patrol https://streamable.com/l19kpr

[frosty herald]

Hmm playdough

[south folio]

yummm

[solar gorge]

sombertide on the playstation 2

[drowsy steppe]

https://tenor.com/view/xqc-spin-gif-21121522

[fleet zealot]

Pain

[zinc talon]

enhanced blitz is fun, I get six Cousin Rockris instead of four and get em back every veryfast

[ember yew]

the last part of this one will not be fun in pugs

the last event is just much worse than it used to be (at least it's shorter)

[obtuse stirrup]

Literal best mission

[ornate bone]

me

[blissful frigate]

You could definitely do the scans faster than the tree interrogators

[fleet zealot]

people haven't gotten used to the circle minigame

[blissful frigate]

Even as one person, as long as you have enough of an opening they could go by fast

[fleet zealot]

and people are just bad at covering for others

[blissful frigate]

Ye the mini game is whatever, but it's still an interregator objective that you have to sit and wait for

Especially with a knife you could scoot through the scans and push the skull probe way faster than it takes to wait for the next blister to pop

And if another teammate was doing the same and you weren't chasing the same scan targets it goes by in a flash

It only got real slow if the rest of the team didn't attempt to move between points and kept getting downed

[ember yew]

Yeah, i'd assume the usual situation when i do like 90% of the scans myself, aka worst case scenario

which means i need to run 2 laps all over the place
And with scans i can at least do it solo, but interrogator its super annoying when no one covers and the mission has some stupid modifiers that spawn berserkers and shotgunners non-stop (+other specials)

[zinc talon]

https://tenor.com/view/finished-elijah-wood-lord-of-the-rings-lava-fire-gif-5894611

[ornate bone]

that ones very fun if you have thammer

[zinc talon]

I tried substituting a crusher, but the director wasn't havin any of that

ten deaths in just the back 2/3rds of the mission after I crashed

squaddies were scrappy as hell tho, borderline stressful/fun

[indigo harbor]

Any advice for a good Thunderhammer melee build?

[hard nexus]

martyrdom, thy wrath be swift, toughness on heavy kills

or alternatively you can put on toughness on dodge

[indigo harbor]

Alright, thanks.

[hard nexus]

preference really

[hard nexus]

yah

of course

[indigo harbor]

Somewhat spoiled with dodges since my first character is a Psyker I run Force Sword on

[hard nexus]

lmao

yeah

if you're toughness on dodge is really good

arguably one of the best toughness talents

[spare dome]

you can do pretty well whatever you want with hammer, other than piety

[indigo harbor]

Only recently started my next character and realized those weren’t always unlimited

[hard nexus]

crit hammer will work one day trust

[spare dome]

you can kinda make an argument for it

just because crit cdr is so stupid

[hard nexus]

true

[spare dome]

but like, why hammer

[hard nexus]

why not hammer

[indigo harbor]

Because I think it looks fun, not other reason

[hard nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/boing-balloon-snake-water-balloon-whomp-gif-26803898

[hard nexus]

he was talking to me dw lol

[indigo harbor]

Ah sorry

[hard nexus]

no worries

[spare dome]

it's really blessings that hold hammer back

[ornate bone]

penis

[hard nexus]

i mean, what else could it have that would make it better?

thrust and slaughterer are really the best it could have

[spare dome]

oh i mean for the player

like building a hammer build

[hard nexus]

ohh

yeah

fair

its very dependant on thrust

[spare dome]

90% of that is just getting the right Hanmer lol

[hard nexus]

yah

[spare dome]

hanmer

[hard nexus]

hanmer

[visual stream]

Tbh Darktide in general is really bad at making interesting and creative effects on their blessings 🧍 The only like two blessings in the game that are potentially interesting are so bad that they're not worth the fun aspect

[hard nexus]

which 2

[spare dome]

i do like thammer but fuck me if Eviscerator doesn't just completely invalidate them rn, imo anyway

[hard nexus]

boss kill is really the only thing the thammer has going for it, compared to everything else

[visual stream]

Only one I can rember to cite but it's one that makes elites/specials explode

[hard nexus]

showstopper

[summer tree]

Many blessings are taken from tabletop

[hard nexus]

i still think a crucius should one shot a crusher with thrust alone

ironhelm should 2 shot

but a crucius should easily one shot

it can deal half a boss's health in one hit, it should kill a crusher

especially when there are 6 of them

[austere grail]

Soulblaze on crit for force sword 😭

[summer tree]

I hate weapon activations they're very unfun

That's all I'll say

[hard nexus]

a knife shouldnt be better against crushers

[visual stream]

Still, would like to see them deviate

[summer tree]

We all would

[hard nexus]

i like it with thammer, because it helps show just how incredibly strong a thunder hammer hit is

like, stunning the player character and the sound effect

its all

just shows how hard it hits

[summer tree]

The thammer should always be activated and cleave when activated

[hard nexus]

disagree

[visual stream]

Like my brain just shitposted a rough draft for a new hammer blessing where there's a blast in the direction that the hammer pops, either giving some stagger or damage to the enemies past the dude who got brapped

[summer tree]

I'm speaking lore wise

Not in game

[zinc talon]

https://tenor.com/view/zoidberg-futurama-gif-24373622

[hard nexus]

hai okri

[zinc talon]

hi fren

howzit

[hard nexus]

i mean, lorewise it goes both ways, does it not?

[visual stream]

Not super interesting but it would have some use and is more interesting than the fiftieth iteration of "yeah erm you get +3% more damage"

[hard nexus]

there are instances (namely an animation for i think the inquisitor game) where its always active and hits harder

[zinc talon]

like a crusher detonation, but a cone heading out from where it impacts

[visual stream]

Exactly

[hard nexus]

but then in other times, the thammer gathers energy and releases it all onto one target

with explosive force

[visual stream]

I'm sure there are plenty of things you can do with a fucking exploding electric hammer

[summer tree]

I suppose if you want to, but the idea of a power weapon is it bypasses armor and adds damage that's about it, so it shouldn't handle differently. To me it feels bad, it's a hot take and I know that

[hard nexus]

if it was a power hammer yeah

but its not, its a thunder hammer

which are different from each other

[zinc talon]

that could be a variant thing, that could be a hero's preference thing, that could be a plot armor thing, that could be a 30k vs 40k thing

space marine at least had it detonate like a crusher did

[hard nexus]

power weapons destabilze atoms or something like that, where a thunder hammer gathers kinetic energy and releases it all at once

[zinc talon]

and I think there were end-chain finishers, maybe, for single targets

space marine sucked compared to darktide though, total playstation 1 style step forward every attack so you can never sit still you must keep stepping forward to kill

[hard nexus]

a blessing that explodes a target killed by a crucius hit, turning its body into shrapnel would be SO cool

[zinc talon]

kinda like show stopper

[hard nexus]

and help make up the difference between crucius and ironhelm

[summer tree]

Either way, hot take or not, I personally feel all the power weapons don't feel great to use, especially when I can't move when doing the long ass animation for some reason? Like apparently I can't do it mid swing?

[zinc talon]

which one falls short most time? I saw crucis got its activation snare removed like the ironhelm had at deubt

day 1, they were all long activation lock-on long duration attacks

that you couldn't dodge out of

[visual stream]

Tbh the better single target damage makes up the difference and gives it its own very good function but I could see a blessing to optionally round it out like that working

[zinc talon]

to give you an idea of the creative power we're working with

[summer tree]

Did any of you play the stress test?

Before the beta

[zinc talon]

I think so

[hard nexus]

yah thats what i mean

[summer tree]

Remember the chainsword?

[zinc talon]

...vaaaaguely

[hard nexus]

slaughterer or explode, like a side grade to each other

[zinc talon]

something incredibly counter intuitive

that made me think the weapon was designed to get me killed

[summer tree]

When you could be sawing and move freely and dodge when sawing? But it wouldn't cancel the sawing unless you got further away than an arms reach

Then it would cancel

[zinc talon]

oh yeah

and you could turn to another enemy and saw them too if the first one died

[summer tree]

God it felt so much better

[zinc talon]

you'd just, move from one to the other

when the first died

[summer tree]

It felt so much better imo

[hard nexus]

the sawing should be like boltgun

[zinc talon]

I'm okay with the current saw damage is time spent sawing dependent process

[visual stream]

Another blessing idea for hammer, terrifying activation or something. If you kill a big target then enemies around it get staggered. Could even put a lil cooldown on it if you're afraid of it being too oppressing

[hard nexus]

where you can keep revving it to keep the saw going

[zinc talon]

I wish it was ramping instead of 4 ticks then one big if you got the end off

[hard nexus]

and for as long as you want

[zinc talon]

yep

[summer tree]

It's not the damage I'm worried about, I honestly feel like I should be able to dodge while sawing and also walk freely unless I get too fat then it cancels

[hard nexus]

suppressing nearby enemies on activated elite kill would be also really cool

[summer tree]

You should be able to saw until someone is dead too

[hard nexus]

guys they're actually adding this all in the next update

god told me

[zinc talon]

when they finish making my chainfist, which I'm sure will be very soon now, I'm gonna talk to them about a new chain weapon activation process

[hard nexus]

trust

[zinc talon]

where left is your standard light attacks

[obtuse stirrup]

Thrust + bromentum would be pretty sick

[zinc talon]

alternate is your heavy wind-up attacks

and right click is a charge and hold

[obtuse stirrup]

if it lets the hammer go through multiple things

[zinc talon]

that you can use freely while moving

[visual stream]

Like if I see my brother in Nurgle get half-misted, half-flung twenty meters away, yeah I would probably be pretty fucking spooked

[obtuse stirrup]

or thrust + thrust

[zinc talon]

you activate and charge, and then swipe light or heavy

[hard nexus]

one shotting 4 bosses when

[zinc talon]

and the amount you've charged determines how long you grip and mulch for

could do it while dodging for example and step back in with a quick saw before getting back to it

[summer tree]

Dunno why they didn't add Ogryn Ceramite claws that they have instead of inventing new weapons that they don't tbh

[hard nexus]

what new weapons did ogryn get?

[zinc talon]

prolly didn't want to have to animate it

[hard nexus]

the clubs/knives?

[zinc talon]

melee combat is tough to actually draw and render

whole body movement type stuff

[summer tree]

No other gun exists in lore but the Ripper and GG

[hard nexus]

oh

[visual stream]

Ogryn should get power caestus 💪

[zinc talon]

yeah the others are from maybe illustrations or undefined sprue pieces from tabletop

[summer tree]

Shovel I don't think they get, random pipe?

[plucky sparrow]

Power steel chair melee when

[visual stream]

Something with their fists would be really funny LOL

[hard nexus]

i mean, heavy stubbers have been around

it makes perfect sense to give an ogryn one

[plucky sparrow]

I mean aren’t they literally stronger than space marines even barehanded?

[summer tree]

Yeah, they do get heavy stubbers, but more often they are using autocannons

In lore

Tabletop I actually don't think they even get stubbers

[visual stream]

https://tenor.com/view/chair-hit-throw-rigby-gif-17178150

[leaden pebble]

i wish ogryn had a massive two handed greatsword that was really just a big hunk of sharpened metal
but given its nature it’d be wayy too op

[zinc talon]

they have heavy stub guns for sure in the guard

which is where most if not all ogri filter out to faction wise

[visual stream]

Been thinking about this too

[summer tree]

Lore or tabletop?

[zinc talon]

can't honestly think of other factions that weren't oneoffs

[visual stream]

Could specialize in mixed horde clear?

[zinc talon]

your melee weapon comes with a cooldown

when you use the cooldown, you rip something out of the wall or floor

and beat people to death with it

[summer tree]

It's just GK ability lmao

[humble dome]

gib ogryn 10 rocks at the start of the match and no need of other funky shiny new weapons

[zinc talon]

the weapon eventually breaks, and you have to re-rip something out of the wall to keep killing

[leaden pebble]

maybe
the problem is a big sword like that needs to really feel good and responsive
but if you balance it to how it’d realistically feel it’d be shit for actual game balance

[zinc talon]

but you get both rocks and bonks using the cooldown

sometimes 1h, sometimes 2h

always concrete and rebar

[summer tree]

The problem is giving the Ogryn long ranged melee would be incredibly OP

[zinc talon]

yip^

[summer tree]

That's likely the issue

[zinc talon]

the reach, is the existential issue

and how to actually animate it without ogryn swinging through the wall from the other room

and killing the vibe

[summer tree]

We already do tbh

[leaden pebble]

it’d be op but man id love to see a guts level sword or a massive kanabo type bonk stick
imagine the power

[summer tree]

Just imagine an ogryn greatsword though, 10 feet long

[zinc talon]

yeah but like corners, I mean he's swinging at something in his room and the 2h whatever is clipping through to yours

[visual stream]

What if the scrap greatsword slowly got worse with every hit and your special on it was to fix it up? Very good weapon but with a cost of some kind if not that?

[summer tree]

Just the cloud buster sword

[visual stream]

Also true

[zinc talon]

I think a lot of this would be mended with the lifer ogri would be to reanimate one or two good looking both-hands swings into the other maces

as a step in the combo chain

[summer tree]

Imo they need to add a Mace that the weapon special is to hold with both hands

Just fucking annihilated something with an overhead

[leaden pebble]

a two handed strikedown would be incredible

[zinc talon]

yeah that's what I mean

your brunt's variants all 3 would have renimated dual hand attacks

that way everyone gets a 2 hand, and nobody gets a sword that reaches to the next zip code

[summer tree]

Dual wield maces, no ranged

[zinc talon]

let me pick my 1h melee with slab

[summer tree]

Spin like ricky Bobby when he's on fire

[leaden pebble]

what i wouldnt do for a melee only class in this game

[zinc talon]

dual cutters would be intriguing, and doable from a rendering standpoint

just different hackyslashies usiung both hands

[summer tree]

Before release I figured Ogryn with slab shield would be melee only

[zinc talon]

I'd like to see two handed weapons with offset swing timings

[fleet zealot]

flamer throwing knife zealot is the closest thing

[visual stream]

I think dual melee would be really hard to not be a throw unless you choose one of them to be the shield, sadly, but I would love to see it

[zinc talon]

or both hands operate independently but you have to have em both on a certain combo step to activate dual wield attacks

[fleet zealot]

lol they would never go that complex

[zinc talon]

being able to run through two combo chains at the same time swinging either hand

[leaden pebble]

dual melee would have to be suped up somehow to offset not having a ranged weapon

[zinc talon]

of course not but a girl can dream

[fleet zealot]

dual wielding will be like vt2, just a different moveset

[zinc talon]

likely

[summer tree]

Dual wield paul

Only way to fix it

[zinc talon]

https://tenor.com/view/random-tuesday-sad-sigh-wistful-resigned-deep-sigh-gif-27525710

gauntlet and slab would tide me over until the chainfist for sure

I could prolly even wait longer for them to finish making mine

they're on the tabletop, it's not an ask really

[summer tree]

Considering they've drawn a good bit from tabletop I agree

[zinc talon]

give back blocks, remove braced fire, keep falcon punch on one variant and guarded firing behind the shield on the other

and you've now got 3 shield variants and no complaints from the shieldgryn for a year

[summer tree]

If they add that just saying Ceramite claws would also be dope

[zinc talon]

no doubt

[summer tree]

Imo, you should be able to use whatever melee weapons you want with shield

[zinc talon]

preach

[leaden pebble]

id love to see some shield variants and some switchup in the meta so that spamming only heavies isn’t the most viable thing to do

[summer tree]

You should even be able to use GG and shield at same time

Just no aiming

[zinc talon]

it wouldn't be a huge undertaking, all cutters get one type of combo chain all bonks get another and each variant has a different alternate attack

[kindred ivy]

Quick one for y'all: is a weak spot damage/CHD/Shred Eviscerator bricked?

[zinc talon]

maybe not weak spot damage but the other two are peas and carrots

[summer tree]

British saying moment

As an American I prefer moon-pies and twinkies as the saying

[zinc talon]

https://tenor.com/view/happysistersday-diabetes-iloveyou-fullmoon-hug-gif-17987280

[leaden pebble]

laughs in obesity rates

[kindred ivy]

Oh thank god, cheers

[zinc talon]

if someone could work their foot into the bottom of my throat and stamp down a cpl times I think I can fit another breakfast

you might try 5% crit for the added padding from 80? I think to 85 at full rip

[summer tree]

Thank god I'm not fat anymore so I can laugh at fat American jokes

[visual stream]

Another meaning to the phrase "big up"

[zinc talon]

and then I do carapace for the twins map and/or crusher heavy missions or crit damage increase cuz it's almost a guarantee in the law of large number ssense

but if you're using whichever evis variant has the extra help homing in on weak spots, weak spot damage is still a real contender

[leaden pebble]

i dont even laugh at them i just get sad lmao
the consumerism culture and the overloading of chemicals and addictive bs in our food is just kinda depressing

[kindred ivy]

Sorry yeah, I should have specified, Mk XV

[zinc talon]

my weak spot crusher or evis setup gets me 60-65%ish percent weak spot hit rate over the entire mission

on a good day

[fleet zealot]

weakspot perk sucks but shred is fine idk what chd is

[zinc talon]

so that means 85% crit, and 65% weak spot, ideally

you're weak spot critting more than every other swing

[kindred ivy]

Crit damage

[summer tree]

There's also logistic reasons why we have so much preservatives, America is very big and getting fresh food to some places is very hard, which is why all the shit that's junk and lasts is so cheap

[fleet zealot]

oh crit damage and weakspot damage perks are both bad, they calculate terribly

[zinc talon]

oh

well I still believe

(bereave)

[summer tree]

Based

[leaden pebble]

america loves to cut corners and cheapify anything they possibly can lmao

[fleet zealot]

much better with 10% elites or 25% to an important armor type, flak, maniac, unyielding, cara etc

[kindred ivy]

Alright, let's see if Hadron fucks up this next one, thanks for the input

[zinc talon]

yknow I'm honestly having a hard time finding a chain weapon that doesn't mulch all mutants with zero added help

[summer tree]

I dunno, maybe in cities dog but where I live now is pretty dope, local slaughter houses and farmers markets are very very cheap, houses are cheap, land is cheap

[zinc talon]

so much so I've swap to carapace on the axes and elite or unyielding on the 2h

happy for ya pal