zealot-class

[placid fiber]

Sniper? I can have a blast with his default loadout. CHEF? Meh, unless I screw up this is going to be an easy win...

Still none suit me as well as the Bandit does, with his default loadout

I love it, I don't care that blast has less damage than ror1... the damage isn't really what I like about it lol

[red pollen]

Ok so… imagine not knowing that zealots have invincibility and are tankier than ogryns

[wintry forge]

honestly same

[red pollen]

Imagine spending your entire game staring at other players stim icons

[placid fiber]

I only glance at it occasionally when I find stims

[wintry forge]

the only time i use stim is when i see bosses or when im the only person standing

[red pollen]

Imagine making Reddit posts about how other players play

[placid fiber]

I stim when I have extras or when shit starts getting real

[wintry forge]

injecting a stim means its time to lock in

https://tenor.com/view/locking-in-locked-in-gif-8219871157839817111

well excluding health stims

[red pollen]

I stim when I wanna be kill a monstrosity in a single mag dump of a bolter but I never ever EVER worry about another player’s fucking consumable items lol

[placid fiber]

Yeah, you're focused on a threat and want to deal with it

[red pollen]

Usually instantly use the speed stim if I see them laying because they’re mediocre and hang on to a combat or med stim

[ornate bone]

best part is seeing 5% hp teammates run past med stations not knowing what it does or something

[placid fiber]

I save the med stim for when I take too much damage on my marty builds

[ornate bone]

or having teammates that dont ping anything

[placid fiber]

that way I can bump myself back up to near half hp

[visual stream]

I'll do this if I still have my UD up and there's a hefty room to clear ahead tbh. Come back for it when I know I won't waste it

[red pollen]

I love standing in a fire barrel to get martydom stacks then having a guy with the “got my first level 30 character” portrait frame and who has 4 or 5 wounds constantly demanding I heal before wasting his own med stim on me

[frosty herald]

Ask redditors at what difficulty they play on

[ornate bone]

ye i do the same but like when theres no enemies n shit/goin next area

[placid fiber]

Sometimes I'll just throw the extra stim on someone even if they never pick them up

[ornate bone]

💀

[placid fiber]

Don't wanna pick it up? Too bad

[wintry forge]

the only time i really stare at peoples consumables is when everyones ammo is either red or orange and that one guy still refuses to drop the ammo box

[red pollen]

My name in game is Oh Emperor Gape Me and I’m level 900something, don’t worry about me

[visual stream]

Should be an alternate give button where you hand it to them like pills/adrenaline in L4D

[wintry forge]

like bros saving the ammo box til darktide 2

[red pollen]

I do have a hard time using stims on teammates though it just refuses to work unless they stand completely still for a second

[placid fiber]

It's honestly easier just tossing them the stim

[tropic pelican]

i just spam it and whoever gets it gets it

[red pollen]

Try to heal the 4 wound psyker who is at 87% corruption and hit the 98% health ogryn, every damn time

[wintry forge]

spamming it chasing the scriers psyker just to accidentally use it on the ogryn that clipped into your model for a mini second

[spare dome]

my philosophy for the ammo crate is that you should drop it as soon as you run into the 2nd one

(unless this happens to be in the first five minutes or something)

[placid fiber]

Not a bad one

[frosty herald]

That bullet charm doesnt farm itself

[tropic pelican]

how do you even hand others the stimm

[placid fiber]

weapon special

[spare dome]

special

[wintry forge]

i didnt even know that was a thing

[placid fiber]

Did you think I was crazy for saying tossing em the stim? xD

I'm looking at the characters I still have to do Judgement with... and honestly I have some of the easier ones left :/

Enforcer, HAN-D, CHEF, Pilot, Artificer... those are all not too bad of Judgement runs

I think the only really difficult ones for me are going to be Miner and Mercenary... and maybe Robomando

I got all the other ones done :/

[wintry forge]

man i suck so much at that game that the only character i can consistently do monsoon runs on is acrid

[placid fiber]

I mean you can throw your head at the challenge or play to have fun

I want to have fun and I don't care if I am using half damage taken and 200% damage dealt for monsoon

and half damage taken doesn't even save you that much since the damage scales up so quickly you'll get melted almost just as fast anyway...

[frosty herald]

gearbox giving people an artifact seemingly giving you 3 options for loot chests

but nope

[stone fern]

why does everyone who wakes up a DH always run away from the hammer zealot

it bothers me to to end

[frosty herald]

chests respawn on teleporter done and you need to remember which item you got from it

[placid fiber]

I mean that would just be a lesser version of Command

These are the 3 artifacts I usually use for my runs

Origin, Prestige, and Dissonance

Origin doesn't really even help much... if anything the 1st one is a gear and skill check

[frosty herald]

your talking about returns

i was talking about the free update

[placid fiber]

I mean command is the same in ror1, rorr, and ror2

only in ror1 and rorr* you can still jump while selecting an item lol

Hm... I'm thinking about doing another one of these runs...

actually dissonance is a hinderance on that, tbh

[ornate bone]

yall shud play rabbit and steel

https://tenor.com/view/pet-rabbit-and-steel-cat-rabbit-bunny-gif-11951267041403719383

[placid fiber]

Anyone order bombs?

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/armored-core-duel-casual-dragon-ball-dragon-ball-z-gif-27578061

[placid fiber]

Okay who tf ordered all the meat nuggets?

[red pollen]

This ogryn could not stand my martydom build. Every me station with an airlock past it telling me to heal. Used 2 med stims on me, used 2 health kits on me just to watch me stand next to the breaching charge immediately after

Rashad one hits shotgunners and gunners at 2 wounds and 2 shots heavy on maulers so that’s where I like to stay

Build so strong I got auric storm survivor without trying since I only run auric maelstrom anyway

[plucky sparrow]

martyrdom players trying not to get healed challenge:

[red pollen]

Just surprising to see people in auric maelstrom that don’t know what it means when the zealot has 7 wounds

Gonna be funny to go on Reddit and see a post like “wtf is with players in auric maelstrom refusing to heal lately. Just played with a zealot who mulched the front line the entire game but stayed at 10% hp. Even blew himself up on a breaching charge just to spite me after I used an entire med kit on him”

[plucky sparrow]

2 bajillion upvotes to main post and the one that will actually state what martyrdom does gets 120319459 bajillion downvotes

[shy river]

https://tenor.com/RFz6.gif

[fleet zealot]

I hate people using med stims on me lol

like, ok, if I have little to no wounds left uncorrupted, sure, thanks

but i was at half hp no corruption and my teammate shank healed me

[ember yew]

darn my melee vet is sitting almost at 300 toughness without sacrificing anything

• shout and its over 300

https://media1.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExdG51aGF5ejhwbzJmd2RoYjQ5ZmRmZnlsb2trMHJiZ3k2OTJybGlzeiZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/pdXittpi48UzC/giphy.gif

[median steeple]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/959659611475042335/1240223251838537768/Gamba.mp4?ex=6645c769&is=664475e9&hm=eaa59e962e5031a805cbd857e13062d08daf1fd75c1109d7e0153f15b9a9fc7e& trying to get the perfect Ironhelm

[visual stream]

"STAY ALIVE!"

[visual stream]

where did you get this footage of me

[fleet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-anime-girl-cute-marcille-donato-marcille-gif-8958955143961658334

[runic hamlet]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9c0bf8b4-56fc-4834-bc81-92bf7f593e12/dawn-of-war-priest?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

did yall see my epic new build

[spare dome]

hilarious

[fleet zealot]

woo time to play darktide

"verifying files"

[placid fiber]

Welp I went to the chiro and got cracked

[sterile basalt]

Highest u can get is 274 I thought

[ember yew]

its 268 + 50

but yeah

[placid fiber]

I mean 274 is pretty damn close to 300, tbh

[maiden path]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gner2vWyPJU

[misty mason]

Ah yep I did have skana prime

[north sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/nodding-wet-hot-american-summer-gif-20489538

[fleet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/dunmeshi-dungeon-meshi-delicious-in-dungeon-falin-touden-falin-gif-5227457105771997096

[frosty herald]

Her ass is NOT druski!!!

[misty nova]

I was not expecting the extremely happy face

[median steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/marcille-hits-laois-laios-touden-dunmeshi-delicious-in-dungeon-dungeon-meshi-gif-1935789871831488895

[frosty herald]

autism representation in anime (laios)

[hushed knoll]

[misty mason]

Its not bedgetime

It is am

[delicate shadow]

warfarm detected

[plucky sparrow]

any good?

[hushed knoll]

It is bedgetime for you

[hushed knoll]

You can't farm war

[delicate shadow]

sure you can

just get 30 war seeds and plant them in the soil

[misty mason]

Im wondering if I can charge people plat to touch my excal prime, like how Animal Crossing players were charging to see their cat npc

[median steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/senator-armstrong-metal-gear-rising-mgr-armstrong-gif-26250693

[hushed knoll]

There is no such thing as war seeds 😠

[delicate shadow]

sure there is

how else do you think we get war plants HUH?

[misty mason]

Yeah, wartrees are how you make warframes

[placid fiber]

Oh boy, good thing I don't know how to safely use these. >:3

[hushed knoll]

NO 😠😠😠😠😠😠

[delicate shadow]

see

[hushed knoll]

NO NO NO NO

[placid fiber]

@hushed knoll What are your thoughts about stage 1 swifts?

[hushed knoll]

YOU ARE GOING TO MAKE ME HIT MY HEADLIGHTS WITH A POOL NOODLE

[hushed knoll]

[placid fiber]

What about stage 2 elder bugs?

[hushed knoll]

What

[placid fiber]

the first one is stone beaked bird things that try to dive bomb your ass

[fleet zealot]

weird dog

[placid fiber]

the second one is a giant ass flying bug that shoots acid spit at you

[frosty herald]

fucked up looking crocodile ngl

[placid fiber]

Think that describes an elder bug well enough for the ones who don't know? lol

@hushed knoll The left is you, the right is the elder bug

for a size comparison

I didn't realize that the abdomen is actually literally the size of the commando's entire self...

[hushed knoll]

[placid fiber]

You're gonna need a bigger can of bug spray, Stan, lol

[sterile stone]

Bro barking in Bulgarian

[ivory marlin]

I was awoken cuz apparently i need to be ready 30 minutes ago

[ivory marlin]

Hi gramps

You should look up the arabian sand boa

[sterile stone]

I didn’t know sand could have a ethnic background

That’s wild

[ivory marlin]

:(

[drifting wolf]

what evolving to hide in sand does to a mf

[ivory marlin]

Goofy ah snake

[misty nova]

Looks high

[molten badge]

hello

how can i post a ss of my weapon for advice?

[ivory marlin]

Howdy

[sterile stone]

It's that one snake

From manster hanter

[ivory marlin]

Argus if you were an animal youd be an Arabian sand boa

Or a Tibetan fox

[drifting wolf]

have a calabar python, he specialized into tanking so that he can eat an entire litter of baby rodents unfazed by the parents trying to fend him off

[molten badge]

i love my crusher

[ivory marlin]

I love a good old mained wolf

Their piss smells like weed and got a zoo shut down for a sec

[molten badge]

been running a crusher and a shotgun

[ivory marlin]

Solid

My zealot is level 4 so im running auto pistol and taxe

[molten badge]

oooh, enjoy! i wonder what the axe gameplay is like

[ivory marlin]

Bad

I hate taxe

[molten badge]

i went from 2h chainsword to the crusher

what u usually play?

[buoyant pecan]

Bruh wtf Discord

[opal star]

highlight notification settings

[ivory marlin]

What

[buoyant pecan]

Why is this a highlight?

[ivory marlin]

I main psyker so idk much about zealot

[ivory marlin]

Talking bout snakes

[buoyant pecan]

IVE NEVER TALKED ABOUT FUCKING SNAKES THO XD

[ivory marlin]

We were

[summer tree]

Something about your name makes me think you're a girl

[placid fiber]

What's wrong with snakes? Why you go haticatin' on da snakes?

[buoyant pecan]

They're weird

[placid fiber]

So are most of the people in this chat lol

[summer tree]

Snakes are pretty cool

[drifting wolf]

envision a lizard but it's 90% spine, legless, earless and has a clear scale over its eye to function as an eyelid and you have a snake

[summer tree]

Nu-uh

[placid fiber]

I have arachnophobia, but, I don't go hatin' on the spiders. I actually am fascinated by them

Plus some are even kinda cute

[summer tree]

I thought this was about your everyone here is weird comment first

I was like Ayo

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/honey-boo-boo-spider-me-need-a-hug-gif-16165989

[placid fiber]

I mean they could be, for all I know.

😉

[buoyant pecan]

I mean yall are

[summer tree]

You could find out too

[placid fiber]

I'm honestly glad that I'm not normal.

Normal is boring

[summer tree]

I make everyone I know laugh and it brings me joy

[misty nova]

Thoughts on the Decapitator blessing? Sounds powerful but not really seen around

[jaunty coyote]

Got my zealot to 30 yay

Go on barney

[small yew]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/s/5nPh6ShMHb
Can someone help me figure out how this zealot manages to maintain like 80+ crit? I'm not too familiar with crit eviscerator builds

[undone pewter]

blazing piety + shred

[misty nova]

And scourge

[distant galleon]

I mean i don’t mind the small spiders. They eat mosquitoes and stuff so we’re chill. Tarantulas though..

[hushed knoll]

Jumping spiders are so cute

Ooops feed didn’t update

[spice wren]

New zealot headpiece coming out this week

I guess if you're into being a budget one eyed cloaker from Payday 2

go nuts

https://gyazo.com/954592d32c388306bccd6b4e5dc9889d.gif

[frosty herald]

Frankenstein mask

Whats the shop page for vet and zealot

[spare talon]

it could always be worse

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/752156106071081021/1200653623802216508/gufjdhd.gif

[summer tree]

That's wild

[buoyant pecan]

https://tenor.com/view/always-sunny-frank-oh-my-god-i-get-it-gif-22328165

[spice wren]

It's dogshit

Zealot has a reskin of the homeless red zealot outfit basically.

No shop pages yet cause it's not offically out but we can see some of what will be there

[polar nexus]

i want this so hard

i am cming rn

[summer tree]

Same

[spice wren]

https://tenor.com/view/payday2-cloaker-dallas-payday-california-girls-cloaker-dance-gif-26597528

Payday cloaker wanna be

[molten badge]

when do they update the store?

[spice wren]

Thursday

[polar nexus]

lmao

today for me

i live in the future

[spice wren]

These new sets

gonna be dogshit I'm sorry

There might be a few useable pieces

[polar nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/light-peace-please-penguin-hope-gif-10880066090316969269

[spice wren]

like the new ogryn helmet

but 90% of it is gonna be shit.

The new ogryn riot helmet actually cool

[polar nexus]

pic?

[spice wren]

It's just a steel pot with like leather hanging.

You know what I will complain less

if they give us

another red helmet

with the rotation

cause the veteran set will be red

[molten badge]

can i have an opinion on what to refine/bless on my Indignatus Crusher?

stats:
20% carapice dmg
25% flak dmg
Hammerblow III
Skullcrusher IV

[spice wren]

This will be the vet set apparently.

[polar nexus]

oh, nice

[molten badge]

i'm doing short heavy attacks all the time and aim to stagger constantly

[spice wren]

Although I remain skeptical

if that'll be the vet set

[polar nexus]

i have no set of pants sqdly

well your crusher is good enough

[spice wren]

I love how clueless fartshart is

[polar nexus]

keep flak and sc4 because it's bis

[spice wren]

with making sets though

really gives me something to whine about.

[molten badge]

bis?

[polar nexus]

@molten badge as for the other perk i like unyielding on it

best in slot

[molten badge]

gotcha

[polar nexus]

and hammerblow is the second blessing you want

[spice wren]

Oop well it appears that will be the veteran set

[polar nexus]

why.

[molten badge]

i got one edit on it

[spice wren]

Well

My number one reason is the Scion set.

[polar nexus]

there's a pin for the crusher guide

[molten badge]

so i go Hammerblow IV?

[spice wren]

Remember this really dope as fuck scion helmet they gave us?

What if I told you they made Scion armor recently and put it in the game code.

However

It's not the same color

it has no gloves

[undone pewter]

(brown is their wip colour)

[polar nexus]

well that won't really matter to go for t4

[molten badge]

thanks

[spice wren]

Even if it's their wip color

no gloves?!?!

[polar nexus]

better keep it like that

[spice wren]

On the Imperium's finest human soldiers

[polar nexus]

and have a free slot

[spice wren]

The most kitted out humans in the imperium can't have gloves.

[polar nexus]

yeah, they could sell the fuck out of it with the same color and some tacticoolery

[spice wren]

It's not going to sell as much as it could.

Unless they make it green and give it gloves.

[polar nexus]

i wish it was not gree but well

[spice wren]

I will take any color

as long as it has glvoes and a matchion scion helmet

[polar nexus]

at least it's not ocean blue

[spice wren]

I will take literally ANY color

as long as it has gloves and a matching scion helmet

[polar nexus]

they will probably sell a new helmet

[spice wren]

but Fartshart always finds a way to make something you really want, but fuck it up.

They are the literal definition of the monkey's paw.

"Here's scion armor, but oops teehee no gloves."

[undone pewter]

which is why they'll make it blue

[spice wren]

Blue would actually be cool.

If it was the same blue as the Gloamus set.

[polar nexus]

do you have what's in store for psyker too?

[undone pewter]

I do agree with the lack of gloves though. Blue with a scion helmet with a balaclava underneath instead of the exposed neck instant buy I'm afraid

[placid fiber]

I mean they are fascinating... from a distance. If they get too close they trigger my phobia and then obliteration is the only answer.

[spice wren]

Fartshart will fuck it up

it's what they are good at.

They're great at making what you want, but not giving you all of it.

[molten badge]

i wish to buy a robotic voice headpiece yet since i've been playing there's been none apart from the metal chin Vet

[spice wren]

define robotic voice

[undone pewter]

tbf they did only add the indicator recently

[molten badge]

you can't see the difference tho

[polar nexus]

also, some of my have helmets have voice effects

except i can hear it only on others

not on my char

[molten badge]

weird

[polar nexus]

i should disable for the drip, i have read there's a pb with that so

[molten badge]

pb?

[polar nexus]

problem

[molten badge]

gotcha

[polar nexus]

not pabst blue ribbon

[molten badge]

lol

good night guys, thanks for the input and juicy commodore deets

[undone pewter]

gn gamer

[hushed knoll]

[steep hound]

Seems good, what say you chat

[polar nexus]

Hi Stan

I could get some sleep

[hushed knoll]

What's poppin

[steep hound]

wrath -> deathblow, crit hit -> flak?

[hushed knoll]

Yay

[polar nexus]

well it's calm riot now, we got more jarheads on the ground

[fleet zealot]

wrath to deathblow, crit hit to flak yee

[steep hound]

danke schon

[tropic violet]

What weapons work well with a full centre path build

[fleet zealot]

none

full centre simlpy doesn't work cause chorus users want cdr and martyrdom loves fury of the faithful for the stat boost

martyrdoms cdr option is literally negative value

most people split down center to either momentum (standard) or blazing piety (crit)

crit will give you the most chorus value with it's cdr, tho backstab cdr from momentum side isn't bad either

[maiden yoke]

rate the blade

great for hoards and monstrosities when i can reach their heads

[hushed knoll]

Why did you feel you need a mask for security

Just curious

[fleet zealot]

3/10

[maiden yoke]

thank u

[fleet zealot]

you have a vague idea and i partially blame fatshark

low pen normally wouldn't amtter but you aren't running uncanny strike, the defacto best blessing for knives

1stly perks. crit damage (and weakspot) perk is calculated poorly in comparison to other perks

[maiden yoke]

tbh its carried me though auric dam

[fleet zealot]

instead of a total 25% increase on an armor type or 10% to elites or specialist, it is 10% of the BONUS damage from the crit not the total

[fleet zealot]

you can go through auric damn with a grey chaxe it's just slow, that tells me you are mechanically sound

but your knife def could be way better

[maiden yoke]

dodge and weave boys

[rustic steppe]

How do you get manstopper?

[fleet zealot]

and as for crit chance perk, knife already has high base crit chance

[maiden yoke]

i just go for stacks wit hthe flamerand this.

[fleet zealot]

the 5% more crit chance isn't worth the 25% damage to an important armor type

[fleet zealot]

bleed stacks cap at 16, like i said you have an alright idea it just could be better but it takes some explaining

[zinc talon]

It can, on some weapons. I came in late to the convo what weapon are we talking about

[maiden yoke]

.

[zinc talon]

Ah

Carry on

I dont use knife I am not an expert

[fleet zealot]

basically, with 25% flak or maniac which are the most common "non-chafe enemies" or unyielding for monstro bleed damage, or carapace for crusher headshot combos knife can do

[fleet zealot]

those weapons tend to have crit chance related blessings, IE surge or blazing on staffs

which give much more than just crit on crit, so to say

[zinc talon]

Or huge damage increases from body to critical like my beloved darling angel baby crusher that is perfect and has never done anything wrong ever

[polar nexus]

because of drones and people taking pictures

[fleet zealot]

but 25% to armor type improves all damage to that armor type while it is out, boosting your bleed damage and the total damage of your hit

[zinc talon]

Oh, huh. til

[fleet zealot]

3rdly this is when i'm going to explain bleed

[polar nexus]

i don't want anyone having a picture of my face around, the island is quite tiny and i am in contact with a lot of people @hushed knoll

[zinc talon]

https://tenor.com/view/schitts-creek-alexis-rose-tell-me-im-listening-listening-gif-23850121

[fleet zealot]

bleed caps at 16 stacks and does ntohign but refreshed after this

scourge gives 2 stacks of bleed whenever you crit, which will be often. The best bleed blessing by far is fleshtearer

simply put, lacerate +4 stacks aren't worth the damage loss from missing out on weakspots and critical weakspots

[polar nexus]

also, we were armed

[undone pewter]

if you're level 30 brunt if you're not then there's a chance you can upgrade into it at hadron

[fleet zealot]

and, the rending from uncanny strike boosts your bleed damage,

[zinc talon]

obligatory knife conversation meme insert

[rustic steppe]

You mean just get lucky at the shop and hope he's got one with it? Can I craft one up?

[undone pewter]

at 30 no

[fleet zealot]

so if you wanted to make the perfect bleed knife, you'd go flesh tearer+ uncanny, since bleed does lower damage the more armored the target is, baseline it is only significant vs unarmored or unyielding, rending helps vs flak and a ton vs carapace

[undone pewter]

you can start a new low level zealot or vet if you want

[fleet zealot]

personally i'm not for bleed on knife but i'm past the hill for that, if they want to bleed, let them

[zinc talon]

how about who determines bleed damage, since several people with bleed all fill the same one bleed debuff on a target

[fleet zealot]

hmm

[maiden yoke]

bleeds just fun to watch them die when you run away

[rustic steppe]

So at 30 you just need to get lucky on Brunt?

[fleet zealot]

that's actually a good question

[fleet zealot]

yes, and you'll hit max stacks faster and do more damage as you run away with flesh tearer uncanny

[fleet zealot]

i have no idea, I think it would be based on whoever refreshed it last?

[maiden yoke]

hmm maybe ill hunt for another knife

[fleet zealot]

do not quote me on it

[maiden yoke]

this was my first knife pull from hadron

and just added bits

[fleet zealot]

uncanny strike will also boost your throwing knives if you are using them

[maiden yoke]

like upgraded

oh yes

[fleet zealot]

as long as your knife/melee is out and it's stacked

[maiden yoke]

needed with flamer

[fleet zealot]

it simply is the best blessing

and flesh tearer with knfie having high crit chance and high crit chance from talents, just makes lacerate sad

[maiden yoke]

gotta out snipe the ssnipers somehow

[fleet zealot]

cause knife has huge weakspot damage you don't wanna miss out on

ugh zealot chat is full of shit i should have downloaded the crusher knife combo

basically by using push attacks and punches to reset your animation, you can combo crushers in a split

here it is

[maiden yoke]

well

right ok thanks

[fleet zealot]

damn, mutant cheated

[maiden yoke]

super quick rundown on the flamer? not a fan of the show stopper really good in words but nbot in practice

[fleet zealot]

ok, this is much easier

[maiden yoke]

big burn dmg dont matter

[fleet zealot]

you already have above 76% burn, great, cloud radius is 3% short on the last breakpoint but that barely matters

perks are good

Overpressure is currently bugged

swap it with blaze away

when it is bugfixed, the best combo will be OP+blaze away

[maiden yoke]

nice

close enough

[fleet zealot]

until then the meta is blaze away+ none of them matter enough to care, pick the one you find fun

[maiden yoke]

burn n slash maybe a cheeky throw for the dog that jumped past

sound. cheers bruce much appreciated

sounds like i need to do some blessing faarming

3 star blaze away do?

[fleet zealot]

only rank it comes in

so yes

[maiden yoke]

sound

first try

hahah

the omnissiah was on my side today

[austere grail]

Wait are u srs

Bru

Is it calc'd on the chest armor type?

[fleet zealot]

yes

[austere grail]

Damn I thought flak was pretty useless on bleed knife

But it ups mauler bleed ticks

[fleet zealot]

it is kinda if you are going bleed tbh

but it is still better than crit daamge

[maiden yoke]

can never remember the different armour types me.

[fleet zealot]

slash weakspot damage4

[austere grail]

My ideal has been crit chance and carapace

Thus far

[maiden yoke]

i just know the big boys i cant dea l any dmg to

[fleet zealot]

with knife and the builds in general, you don't need crit chance

[maiden yoke]

but the rest die

[austere grail]

I dont see why 5% more is not always good?

[fleet zealot]

you already have some of the best base crit chance in the game

it's ebtter to get 25% damage to your crit hits on important armor types, not even flak, unyielding and maniac are great on bleed knife

[austere grail]

Hmmm. I see your point

Reaper will tske bleed tick increases from flak yes?

[fleet zealot]

plus, they affect your bleed damage while out, as well as your active immo nades

[fleet zealot]

no, they are unyielding

at their base

[austere grail]

Weird I swear their chest was flak

[austere grail]

Wtf

[sterile basalt]

Reaper is unyielding core

[fleet zealot]

it is but uhh

it's not chest, it's core

it's weird

[sterile basalt]

Yes, but core is different

[sterile basalt]

Doesn’t flak hit 1 crit weakspot on scab rager

[fleet zealot]

probably yea

but these people want bleedknife

[austere grail]

Dang it

[fleet zealot]

not cooler, duelist precog knife

forgive them emperor

they do not know

[austere grail]

Im tired of picking 25% armor bonuses

For everything

[sterile basalt]

Yea flesh tearer enables that

With flak

Crit 1 weakspot then bleed ticks finish off

That’s the only breakpoint I found where flesh tearer is sorta unique

[fleet zealot]

yea but if you ignore those

you go down to 10% elites

which also is just better than 10% crit/weakspot damages

the armor perks could be 10%

[austere grail]

I wosh crit builds could actually pick the crit perks

[fleet zealot]

andt hey'd still be better

[sterile basalt]

10% elite is very underrated

[fleet zealot]

crit needs to be nerfed first

or at least crit zealot

[sterile basalt]

I played BP Crit chainsword for 1 game and could feel my IQ dropping in real time

[austere grail]

Every class talent tree needs a nerf imo

Auric maelstrom needs to be truly hard

[maiden yoke]

doig one now

dam auric maelk

[austere grail]

Mk3 seems best for this?

[maiden yoke]

invis worls well

[zinc talon]

I did a series of short vids explaining the flamer and how I use it

and tips and tricks on how to get more stacks with less fuel

thread begins here

maybe a lil above that

[fleet zealot]

mk6 as well

[austere grail]

Word

I like mk6 moar

Feels easier

[zinc talon]

guys, uh

is uh

the war, is going great yeah, we're winning aren't we

we're winning?

[ivory marlin]

You’re either good in bed or good at bowling

And lets justr say im horrible at bowling

[spare talon]

overpressure is bugged, only has a power increase for the impact of the fire, not the burn damage, so its basically completely useless

[maiden path]

moved my entire setup into my bedroom

took fucking 4 hours

nvm

started at 3

ended at 9

5

fuck 6

cable managment is fucked

[polar nexus]

still better than crab management

[median steeple]

mega death crab attack

[maiden path]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMfapDlm9UY

[sterile stone]

[median steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/ghost-of-tsushima-sucker-punch-productions-sony-interactive-entertainment-ghost-tsushima-gif-17792111

cant wait for tmr

[maiden path]

gonna sppil

spoil

hehe jk

[median steeple]

I've beaten the game 3 times

[maiden path]

just a little bit of tomfoolery

ok fuck u too

[maiden path]

https://tenor.com/view/dexter-dexter-wrap-dexter's-laboratory-wrap-dexter's-laboratory-wrap-gif-2402296933080112746

[median steeple]

erm what the slop

[ornate bone]

what the sigma

[opaque island]

the brain rot, it consumes me

I love vermintide 2 and i think its a better game then darktide right? But then you look at my playtime and vermintide 2 is at 90 hours while darktide is almost 500

[maiden path]

500 hours spent gamba

90 hours spent having fun

[opaque island]

I think if im being honest, i like the gameplay of darktide more, but i remember the characters and setting of vermintide more

[maiden path]

if zealots went ''DIE WILL YOU'' everytime u heavied maybe i'd play darktide more

[spiral anvil]

Vacuum capsule

[opaque island]

I keep getting reminded to update my mods everytime i want to say yes or no in game voice

i wish i could vaacum capsule

[ornate bone]

I'm not sure about Vermintide vs. Darktide as a definitive thing

The fact Darktide seems to handle active defenses massively better than Vermintide already rockets it to me

I can't recall any moments of "but I dodged/blocked" from Darktide, while on Vermintide it was a horrible constant

[austere grail]

Darktide has better gameplay and animations vermintide has better maps

Slash objectives

[ornate bone]

Vermintide lacking Darktide's funky movement is also a negative to me, considering how many times I could escape shit by vaulting over objects or sprinting away

I imagined not having established characters would be really bad, but Fatshark has put an immense amount of effort into the dialogue in this game and the characters still get the occasional background info during dialogue

[spiral anvil]

Darktide smoothment is sick

Sprint sliding while holding heavies is addicting

[ornate bone]

Helps that I prefer futuristic stuff over medieval fantasy

[fleet zealot]

i am weak

vt2 also has the benefit from being finished now while DT probably had a worse launch feature/content wise even tho it wasn't as broken as vt2

[tropic pelican]

Darktide lets you avoid so much with dodge/sprint/slide, and you can shit out so much dps that i never really feel like I'm in danger no matter what's happening

[fleet zealot]

but vt2 also had it's issues, besides chaos wastes I really don't want them just copypasting stuff to satiate the whiners

swift slaying stam block meta

swift slaying stam block meta

[ornate bone]

Swift slaying is a pest

[tropic pelican]

But i can still play vt2 and feel like this would be a bad time to pull a boss/patrol, or a hook right now would be difficult to deal with

[ornate bone]

"hurr durr we want players to have carpal tunnel"

[fleet zealot]

I think DT could use a bit more danger tbh

player power is too high

but the community is just so anti nerf it's ridic

[spiral anvil]

Vt2 was hella broken on launch

But I wasn't there for it

[austere grail]

Its sad darktide doesnt have unique bosses or arenas really

[south folio]

making blocking gooder

[ornate bone]

I think I might've said something along the lines of preferring players to be underpowered instead of overpowered because you can reduce the difficulty below the highest, but you can't raise it below that

[median steeple]

I feel like that is only a problem for like the people who actually play auric regularly since it seems most people cant or dont play above malice/heresy

[spiral anvil]

Scab captain

[tropic pelican]

Having so much toughness generation is also just letting us soak everything

[south folio]

yeah and you dont have to particularly think about dodging and whatnot

it's too free for its own good

[spiral anvil]

And scab siblings 1 and 2

[austere grail]

Theyre just so braindead and similar

[median steeple]

need more boss missions like the twins

[spiral anvil]

It's like the CW one in war camp

[median steeple]

Hopefully the wolfer boss fight is good

[spiral anvil]

Nah if the wolfer mission comes out DT is probably gonna EoS

[tropic pelican]

Watch it be pre-nerf skarrik where you it's just a big stormvermin and you get flooded with patrols

[south folio]

maybe a boss that can throw coins and richoshet bullets off of them and then ground stomp and can triple jump and...

[median steeple]

ultrasnail brainrot

[north sedge]

Gamers are antinerf in general, you see the same whining in hd2 also whenever anything vaguely changes

[fleet zealot]

captains should get some of the twins move. crusher captain gets brother moves, sword captain gets sister moves

tbf, hd2 been a lot heavier with nerfs

[south folio]

the great psword review bomb

[north sedge]

Eh

[fleet zealot]

and at least in my experience it seems the new player experience needs a buff so you aren't spamming EATs if you are leveling up with friends who've been playing since launch

[north sedge]

It's mostly overblown, like psword nerf

[fleet zealot]

Wolfer and what's his face

[spiral anvil]

I'm still spamming EATs at level 90

[ornate bone]

eawhat

[fleet zealot]

yea but you have anti armor options at that point

i don't XD

[spiral anvil]

HD2, expendable anti tank

[median steeple]

I just wish a lot of the gameplay in higher levels wasnt just running away

[north sedge]

You forgot the screaming part

[fleet zealot]

there is so much armor dudes that i lose out on all the fun i had with my shotgun

[median steeple]

screaming is the best part

[spiral anvil]

"Running is fun "

-arrohead devs

[fleet zealot]

gunning down even medium sized bugs is fun but slapping armor when your a newbie who hasn't equipped eats you are basically just a distraction

[median steeple]

they def changed the spawns back to pre nerf levels which idk how to feel

I dont care for charger spawns but like 5 biles is a bit tiresome

[ivory marlin]

I won him

[median steeple]

sweet

[fleet zealot]

[ivory marlin]

He’s amazing

[fleet zealot]

UHH WOLFER AND WHATS HIS FACE

[median steeple]

the dreg leader?

[fleet zealot]

god damn they revealed the dreg leaders name in the hab dreyko rework

[north sedge]

Every enemy should be a factory strider, and then it poops out mini factory striders

[median steeple]

rework bile titans to explode into drone swarms

[fleet zealot]

(the one with morrow and listening in on wolfers comms)

he has such a dumb name

[tropic pelican]

Sad we cant bring multiple of the same strat like hd1

[fleet zealot]

i can't remember it

[north sedge]

Dave

[fleet zealot]

Drunum?

what's his sickness

he should be a nice fight

[north sedge]

Dimothy

[fleet zealot]

after 2 years when we finally get to him

[ivory marlin]

This cant be comfortable

[median steeple]

they should just

reskin the rasknitt fight fr

have a man riding on an ogryns shoulders

[fleet zealot]

ferrets have the magic power to sleep on their own behind as a pillow

[ivory marlin]

Awe

Echo does that too but it doesn’t look as comfy

[ivory marlin]

Oh

[ornate bone]

Clearly he wouldn't be crying if he saw the cat seal shape

[opaque island]

i mean cmon its gotta be happening, morrow fucking taunts wolfer in one of the mission starts when you splice into enemy comms. "you'll get yours soon Wolfer!"

[ripe quest]

Sounds like you should take the fight to tyranny instead of letting it run amuck on our democratic worlds.

(ie. if you don't like how you play the game then maybe you should play it the way you want to instead)

[flat marsh]

The solution to most problems is to get closer in HD2 imo

Tank coming in?
Auto cannon the back

Hulk? Auto cannon the eye

Strider? Auto cannon the mini gun turrets, and then walk up and auto cannon the belly

[spiral anvil]

Auto sleeper

[flat marsh]

Auto cannon is probably the best weapon for bots

And shield packs are a crutch

[visual stream]

gen z saltzpyre be like "what the sigmar"

[ember yew]

the ceo of tik tok

[ripe quest]

just had the goofiest argument of HD2 balance of all time. Gremlin A (hereby John) argued that Railgun Helldivers 2 isn't a sidegrade AMR since it's "trash". Solid grounds for a balancing discussion. It turns into me getting called a T4 player and someone with like 10 hours since I said it handled some enemies better and some worse, turns out John only plays Helldive solo and believes that the only way to base an opinion on something is in a solo lobby. Also turns out the guy can't aim for shit and needs stuns to hit Hulks that weren't moving to begin with.

[flat marsh]

But the rail gun is good for solo?

[ripe quest]

I haven't played solo so I have no clue, allegedly, in this guy's experience, EATs singlehandedly have better Charger sustain than Railgun too so I'm like 90% sure he's just trying to win an argument or smth.

no basis in fact and logic, he's trying to please the balance gods with his masterful deeds

[flat marsh]

I prefer to fight bots tbh since they're more fun

EATs are good, but they definitely don't have as much sustainable solo imho

[ripe quest]

also the dude uses Eruptor on bugs w/ AMR and complains that the only viable strat is to run away from everything

either is trolling or is the best kiter on the planet since bro is not purging tyranny like the rest of Super Earth's forces

[flat marsh]

Tbf, laser Rover and running around is way too strong of a strat

[ripe quest]

He's using supply pack

(I wish it was a laser rover)

[flat marsh]

What an interesting specimen

I think I've seen a supply pack once

[ripe quest]

Laser Rover being downgraded to Dagger damage is a bit sad but the unlimited uptime is cool

[left iron]

Solo helldive, you dont fight anything unless you absolutely must. You run away from everything to despawn the stuff near objectives, and stealth into the objectives. EATs are great but railgun is leagues above them on solo due to not requiring you to call a new one in every time you shoot one, and it having a decent ammo pool

[flat marsh]

It's still ridiculously good on bugs since it saves you tons of time still

[ripe quest]

I might end up doing solos but I like the game more on 7-9 w/ a premade. Feels like the intended way.

[flat marsh]

I like the chaos of joining randoms in any game I play

[left iron]

Solo isnt worth it, i play solo only because i hate people

Or rather, played, havent played HD2 in ages

[ripe quest]

ahh I see. But I need solo experience just so I can gift my knowledge to others (I will be called a T4 player regardless)

[flat marsh]

Team killing is half the fun anyway

[spiral anvil]

supply pack is pretty meta

8 extra nades, unlimited ammo

[grave topaz]

What chain axe is recommended?

[brave summit]

New one is easier to use.

Both are fine.

[wintry forge]

whats the diff between chain axe and chain sword

[ornate bone]

Moveset, some functionality with lights and heavies

Blessing pool

[royal vortex]

in general the chainswords are more for horde clear and the chainaxes single target

[grave topaz]

Rashad II combat axe is mega based

[solar gorge]

if you haven't solo'd since the patrol changes, it's also way more hectic now

(since they don't scale based on number of players)

[frosty herald]

It broke

And its 4x players instead of solo spawns

[solar gorge]

it was intended but since it's so unpopular they're looking to revert it

[frosty herald]

What was the dev smoking when making that a thing lmao

[spiral anvil]

Solo players exploiting the game clearly

[solar gorge]

just didn't think people should solo helldive

or at least not as easily as pre-change

[spiral anvil]

Nah the change deliberately targeted non full party divers

[solar gorge]

I mean yeah

that's the intention

less players = harder to helldive

[sonic totem]

Just make friends lmao

fatshark when the fuck will you let us do solo private games I swear to god

[spiral anvil]

Unlike hd2, it costs FS money to host games

[novel forum]

im looking for a guide that let me complete this horrible backstab penance anyone know?

[cursive tundra]

Faith in the emperor

[sonic totem]

I get that, but it just sucks that we don't even have a way to play solo offline even

[cursive tundra]

Serious answer, get into gunnwe spamming events, i remember refinery delta mid event and baross end event having plenty of pew pews

[junior vortex]

Death cult assassin but green

[novel forum]

that could work

the only annoying thing is i need to backstab

[sonic totem]

Weapon: Knife, Rashad, Maybe Even Thunder Hammer if you're feeling spicy.

Best mission: Ranged enemies only maelstrom, but any mission will do. Avoid other maelstroms cause constant special spam will fuck up your day.

Tactics: Use shroudfield... Duh
Also if you don't have shroudfield up, push the enemy before dodging to their back for the backstab. The stagger will ensure they don't turn with you and fuck up the angle

Other than that, pray none of the other three nunces you're playing with have the coherency radius talents.

[molten badge]

is it me or does the new zealot mask not have voice effect like it says it does?

[junior vortex]

Or it just sucks

The filter

[untold junco]

man, just met the most toxic little vet i've ever seen in this game

50k kills frame and shit

most of those people are chill, but man

[ember yew]

https://youtu.be/W2P_691Bdbc

[novel forum]

I got 2 kill per mission

[ember yew]

use the double cooldown reduction build

[novel forum]

Yea im using it, 2 kill

[ember yew]

[novel forum]

Worse than ogryn pemance smh

[untold junco]

in my experience, grabbing a knoif and running like a moron Behind Enemy Lines (trademark) worked fine. I'm using catachan mk III, but I've seen people recommend the other one for multiple backstabs with a swipe, but I really didn't feel that one

what difficulty btw

i grinded it on auric damnations and there were always a lot of elites to moirder

[novel forum]

Auric

Elite one is fine, shooter is very annoying

I think i need to complete the throwing knife one first and get stun grenade

[boreal hull]

what do? i run knife on melee

should i switch out blessings or perks

or maybe the stats are not worth idk

[obtuse stirrup]

Low stopping power isn't good

[boreal hull]

ever for horde clear?

even*

i use my knife for carapace anyway so i feel like it should matter less?

i have some more candidates but I'm not sure about them

[ember yew]

Replace Barrage with Deathspitter and you can replace Unyelding for Maniac damage

this thing shreds maniacs, may aswell enhance it further

[boreal hull]

hm

wait what does stopping power do specifically

i totally forgot

[ember yew]

its damage

2nd stat for raw damage

[boreal hull]

oh.

oh i see in the inspect menu

it's vs armor

[ember yew]

check how much you lose

with 53

[ember yew]

a lot

[boreal hull]

yeah

[ember yew]

well, you can still use it tho

if you dont have anything better its a solid option

[spiral anvil]

yes

[boreal hull]

ye the blessings and perks are good

ive got one with more damage and stopping power but less ammo

[ember yew]

not good, they are perfect

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/474859644494544898/1196126064624275466/image.png?ex=6646da74&is=664588f4&hm=2fee7eecd75d271d9463d0f1320d197d138b92c2877f11426187d0386391685a&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=239&height=383

just low stopping power makes it

worse

[boreal hull]

oh damn

[fleet zealot]

Another gimp mask for zealot

One day we will get a proper plate helmet

[placid fiber]

basically, in general: Stopping power is against all armor types besides unarmored and infested while Damage affects weapon damage per shot and damage % vs unarmored and infested

for guns that have both anyway

I think there are instances that are different for some guns, but, that is in general the way it is

[versed turtle]

Whatre the best blessings for the cowboy fanhammer revolver? Should I go for surgical and handcannon like the other one?

[obtuse stirrup]

definitely handcannon at least

that's a lock

[placid fiber]

Well guys, I did it. I found lunch: Skittles

[versed turtle]

hand cannon point blank since im running knife?

[sonic totem]

Bro

[fleet zealot]

Handcannon not surgical

[fleet zealot]

Pointblank is bugged rn only works with the pistol whip

Go crucian and just cry until fatshark buffs the mark to be as good as zarona

[quaint verge]

remember the italian?

[versed turtle]

copes in yee haw

ty yall

[placid fiber]

What? It is the best of lunches! :3

[proven orbit]

Is lacerate and mercy killer good on a knife? Or should I try rerolling another one

[placid fiber]

Those are not the blessings you want on a knife if you want to actually use it effectively

At least as far as lascerate goes

I think mercy killer can be worked with

[versed turtle]

lacerates kinda mid ino

[placid fiber]

even t4 lascerate is lackluster by malice

[proven orbit]

Should I go for the one with the crit chance bleed?

[versed turtle]

yeah, if youre going crit knife build

[proven orbit]

Im running a bleed zealot if that make sense

Thanks, Lard appreciate the info

[fleet zealot]

Lacerate is just worse flesh tearer because you always want to hit weakspots cause of knife high bonus

[placid fiber]

^

[proven orbit]

I had lac and flesh tearer on a knife

[fleet zealot]

If you insist on going bleed go fleshtearer plus uncanny strike

[proven orbit]

shit gave 10 stacks of bleed lol

[fleet zealot]

Bleed caps at 16 tho

[proven orbit]

alright thank you baytu

[placid fiber]

I don't use the knife right, so I don't use it past uprising/malice(Only if I have to)

I also don't like the knife anyway

[fleet zealot]

I fuckin forgot my name got stan’d (dont worry about it)

[placid fiber]

Your post looked familiar so I looked to see if you were who I thought you were

And you were

[fleet zealot]

Uncanny strike is just the best knife blessing no matter what

[placid fiber]

My dumb adhd brain couldn't think of the name of Uncanny strike so I stayed silent lol

[obsidian ore]

Lacerate is great. It is the most consistent crit enabler you have in zealot's arsenal. Combined with the buffer blessing uncanny strike, you can trash every enemy in the game without worring too much while keeping all your crit synergies up without actually investing in crit

[fleet zealot]

Just go flesh tearer

The damage loss from not hitting weakspots

Is not worth lacerate

[obsidian ore]

No. Flesh tearer needs a guaranteed hit to proc

[fleet zealot]

Knife has high base crit chance

[vast basin]

No, lacerate is terrible

[obsidian ore]

For flesh tearer to start rolling you need to hit a crit, and that crit needs to not hit an enemy

[placid fiber]

do you mean crit?

[obsidian ore]

Yeah, if you don't invest in crit chance you get only %20 crit chance base as a zealot

[placid fiber]

because you need to hit enemies to proc lascerate lol

[fleet zealot]

Unless you force yourself to go a stupid momentum shroudfield build

[obsidian ore]

you can start up the chain if you dash into enemies but you're going to have downtime

[proven orbit]

lac is alright but I can tell a difference bewteen lac and flesh

[fleet zealot]

Scourge gives 30%

[obsidian ore]

try to get used to starting fights with 1-2 body hits

[fleet zealot]

Blazing piety gives 25%

It self sustains

[vast basin]

Lacerate is not a Crit enabler because you have to pass on hitting weak spots, which have the same multiplier as Crits anyway

[fleet zealot]

If you kill an enemy with a weakspot oh well you didnt need bleed in the first place

[obsidian ore]

You still hit weakspots

lacerate is just there to keep your crit chance procced

[fleet zealot]

And if you are worried about crit chance go riposte

[vast basin]

You are better off just going uncanny/reposte or uncanny/precog or uncanny/flesh tearer

Literally all 3 are better than lacerate

[fleet zealot]

Uncanny riposte/uncanny precog for meta, uncanny flesh for best bleed build

[obsidian ore]

As I said, you'll have downtime in your scourge upkeep if you only have flesh tearer without investing in crit chance

[placid fiber]

In all honesty I have to agree with the people who are pro-weakspot hits, and I even kinda like lascerate... I just know it's shit past malice

[fleet zealot]

You dont need it

Scourge self sustains itself

[obsidian ore]

It makes your gameplay much more consistent, since you don't have downtime

[fleet zealot]

If you go blazing piety it is even better

[vast basin]

No, riposte is much more consistent damage than lacerate

[obsidian ore]

Makes your hordeclear much more stable as well

[fleet zealot]

Hitting 50% crit chance objectively makes flesh tearer better

[fleet zealot]

No it doesnt

[obsidian ore]

Yes, for it to be better you need to sustain %50 crit chance

[fleet zealot]

Lacerate does less bleed damage to infested than the weakspot damage you lose

[obsidian ore]

you will have downtimes for it

[fleet zealot]

Scourge+ knife= 50%

[obsidian ore]

If you invest in crit chance flesh tearer is %100 better

[fleet zealot]

Add in chastise guaranteed crit

[proven orbit]

I have lac and mercy killer on this knife lol

[placid fiber]

Isn't, with blazing piety, the zealot's crit chance as high as 45% with the knife?

[fleet zealot]

No 75%

[placid fiber]

with scourge, right?

[obsidian ore]

I'm talking about without foing blazing piety

[fleet zealot]

Oh yea

[obsidian ore]

We are going with inexonerable judgement

[fleet zealot]

Ok so you go shroudfield monentum

[obsidian ore]

yeah

[fleet zealot]

Flesh tearer still better

[vast basin]

In which case just go riposte or precog

[obsidian ore]

Nope, I can't hit %50 upkeep time

and it ain't ocnsistent enough

[fleet zealot]

You dont need to

If you cant keep up the buff there simply isnt enough enemies to care

[obsidian ore]

I value consistent damage and crit upkeep over unreliable stacking

[fleet zealot]

And bleed wouldnt help cause everything dies

Consistent damage lmamakama

You mean consistent overkill from wasted bleed dots

And if you want crit upkeep go riposte

[proven orbit]

overcompensating

[obsidian ore]

Nope, it is an enabler for my crits and much more better for horde clear

[fleet zealot]

No it isnt

[vast basin]

We are telling you it isnt

[fleet zealot]

Even unarmored you are better off going for weakspots

[obsidian ore]

start your fights by doing two quick body swipes

[fleet zealot]

We tested this

[placid fiber]

They have done the testing

btw

[obsidian ore]

especially when you are fighting against multiple nemies

[vast basin]

Riposte is 10x better for Crit upkeep than lacerate

[fleet zealot]

We know what you are doing

Stop repeating yourself like a broken record

[placid fiber]

They legit are test fanatics >.>

[fleet zealot]

Riposte is better because then you get the scourge and riposte crit chance

[obsidian ore]

Riposte ain't giving me bleed sustain on top of crit chance though, I rely on bleed to horde clear better against mixed hordes

[fleet zealot]

With knife high crit chance and attack speed you can fish for crits and get them whenever it matters

[fleet zealot]

Your mixed horde clear is suffering from poor uncanny uptime and overestimating bleed

Bleed just happens to get the killing blow because of the tick rate

It’s a feel good measure

[obsidian ore]

Uncanny is up %100 of the time though, you just switch your attacks depending on your enemy

[fleet zealot]

you want real mixed horde clear? Duelist talent + precog

[fleet zealot]

Yes it is

[placid fiber]

50% weakspot AND crit damage on the knife o_o'

[obsidian ore]

Lacerate is there to start my bleed crit chain without needing to proc an ult

[vast basin]

Okay but if you just weak spot all the enemies you will do more damage

[fleet zealot]

Because crits already give you 2 stacks of bleed with scourge

Hence, self sustaining

[fleet zealot]

So you refuse to take crit cdr? Or what?

I know chastise momentum zealots go crit cdr with knife

[placid fiber]

Ham... have you done the testing in the meat grinder with the monster spawning mod?

[vast basin]

I can't believe people are still trying to defend lacerate in 2024

[placid fiber]

Over and over?

[fleet zealot]

So it seems you are just gimping yourself

[placid fiber]

These people have

[proven orbit]

Yeah, Flesh Tearer is definitely the way to go thanks y'all for the advice.

[south folio]

especially on zealot

[proven orbit]

I am pretty new to the game lolol so thanks

[fleet zealot]

Like, ult is not some hard to get resource

If you aren’t playing martyrdom

[obsidian ore]

I do take it, with 3 stacks I hit %50 crit chance. If it stayed at %50 the entire game with my build, I'd take flesh tearer. Flesh tearer does have weaknesses though, it isn't good as a starter without relying on ultimates or already starting with %50 crit chance by taking blazing piety

[proven orbit]

I just play middle tree crit bleed

[fleet zealot]

Just scourge for crit chance and crit cdr will sustain your ult charges

[proven orbit]

So, I can keep everyone healthy while still bleeding crit

[fleet zealot]

Flesh tearers only weakness is that bleed sucks (relatively)

[south folio]

eh, bleed is fine

[obsidian ore]

There's the problem, since it doesn't make my scourge stay at 3 stacks enough, I don't get enough value from cdr to spam ult againt elites

[fleet zealot]

Edited a correction

[versed turtle]

Bleed doesnt suck THAT much, its pretty decent against bigger enemies where you dont have much armor pen

[obsidian ore]

Bleed's good if you can hold onto 5 stacks of uncanny

[south folio]

taking a bleed blessing on knife makes it more of a generalist weapon

[fleet zealot]

Basically bleed struggles to compete with the sheer power of precog/ riposte and duelist

[south folio]

e.g., fleshtearer flak/elite mk3 can just crit weakspot a dreg gunner and leave them to die to the bleed

[placid fiber]

At that point I'll just fucking take a different weapon that I am comfortable with and doesn't suffer as much from my poor aim

[obsidian ore]

Sheer killing power obviously precog/riposte is gonna be better, but it doesn't give me enough utility

[fleet zealot]

If you dont have much armor pen bleed sucks except against unyielding, except unyielding enemies live long enough scourge will get your to 16 stacks before it dies

[versed turtle]

me running riposte and fleshtearer on my knife

[south folio]

i run knife regardless for movement speed for lootmaxing

[fleet zealot]

Where is your uncanny kindred

https://tenor.com/view/koth-king-of-the-hill-gif-25004340

[versed turtle]

Dead in the fucking water
Hadron refuses to give me a single uncanny blessing AT ALL

[south folio]

crits mitigate the need for uncanny but you do miss out on uncanny throwing knives

[proven orbit]

I honestly just like the mobility on the knife

I hate feeling sluggish in games

[fleet zealot]

Sorry for your loss i hope you find it

[versed turtle]

thats why i hate the thammer

Its a lovely weapon but DAMN its fucking slow

[obsidian ore]

Try lacerate + uncanny strike / flesh tearer + uncanny strike for crit setups without extra crit chance investment and you'll see what I mean

[fleet zealot]

Uncanny boosts bleed damage and throwing knife damage it’s ridic

[hushed knoll]

HELLO EVERYONE

[fleet zealot]

I have

[south folio]

hi stan

[proven orbit]

Before I switched to PC from Xbox I hated the Veteran

[fleet zealot]

But i have chastise

And crit cdr

[hushed knoll]

ARCO OMG HO

[fleet zealot]

It self feeds itself

[hushed knoll]

HI*

[proven orbit]

Bro was so sluggish on controller for me

[placid fiber]

Stan, help us... the lascerate defenders are a foot x.x

[south folio]

wow rude stan

calling me that

[hushed knoll]

NO

[hushed knoll]

I don’t like feet

[versed turtle]

I love uncanny tbh, but its also kinda wonky sometimes

[fleet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/jojo-koichi-ok-master-lets-kill-da-hoe-koichi-act3-jojo-renatojxd-gif-16057969

[obsidian ore]

You'll drop stacks before you get another chastise proc, and your enemy needs to survive a crit hit for it to start stacking your chance again

[placid fiber]

I... somehow that figure of speech being lost on you doesn't surprise me...

[fleet zealot]

Not in auric where enemies are deep

And below it, doesnt matter

You kill most things already with weakspot anyways

[versed turtle]

Anything below auric malestorm damnation means youre a noob smh

[fleet zealot]

If you kill things too fast then it’s not a solution to take lacerate and kill slower

[obsidian ore]

I'll probably do comparison videos comparing uptime on crits to put an end to this conversation later

[placid fiber]

but auric maelstroms are damnation by default are they not...?

[fleet zealot]

Either you are in a situation where you need scourge and it self sustains itself

[versed turtle]

Regular auric, no malestorm

[fleet zealot]

Or your situation can’t self sustain scourge but you dont need it

[fleet zealot]

Literally just chastise opener and use crit cdr to have a charge in your back pocket

How many charges per minute can you do with crit cdr without blazing piety?

I think it is 12 minimum

If not higher im being highly conservative

[obsidian ore]

Here's the problem, chastise opener works only if you don't kill the things in front of you, and you need extra enemies to feed into the grinder to keep the bleeds going. After the first enemy dies you only have a %30 to crit on the second fella, so you have to hit that trigger to keep stacking again

This can get delayed sometimes resulting in lower value from crit synergies

[versed turtle]

No blazing? Not a lot
With blazing? Holy fuck i can spam my charge every 4 or 5 seconds if im in a horde

[obsidian ore]

And happens a lot during gameplay

[fleet zealot]

If you are killing things too quick then you don’t need lacerate

Or scourge

[dense field]

IF YOU WANT CRIT CHANCE JUST USE RIPOSTE INSTEAD OF LACERATE

Why the extra steps?

[placid fiber]

In all honesty at this point they almost seem like they are trolling

[versed turtle]

riposte + uncanny is pretty much just a good ass knife all around, no?

[obsidian ore]

Riposte is less consistent with uptime and I like the bleed damage on multiple mixed elites

[dense field]

Yes

[fleet zealot]

Listen, the solution to killing enemies too fast is to simply, kill them slower

[fleet zealot]

Loaoalsoof

[obsidian ore]

So I can do quick slices on elites and switch tagets