#zealot-class

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storm crypt
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tenderize heretic faces

sweet quiver
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or Logan Grimnars Possessed Khorne axe, that would be sick

storm crypt
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i know 40k has a bunch of crazy weapons but a gal just wants some simpler weapons

sweet quiver
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Like you already have access to a thunder hammer, which you shouldn't.

storm crypt
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a greatsword, greataxe

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hell give us two devils claws

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just no more shitty rev gimmicks please ;w;

sonic totem
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Tbh, I just want zealot's to be able to use the shovels

storm crypt
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some of those shovels would be broken on zealot

sonic totem
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Give zealot one of the ogryn shovels, lemme two hand that shit

sweet quiver
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dual wielding would be fun

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or terminator clawsssss

storm crypt
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dual swords kerillian and axe & falchion saltzpyre were my favorites in vermintide

sweet quiver
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lightning claws would be sick

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or the possessed sword that killed ferrus manus

storm crypt
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i really liked bret longsword on grail knight (but halberd before gk released) and flail on sienna

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oh

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you know what

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give us a flail.

sweet quiver
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like veracs from runescape ayyyy

umbral kindle
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Something about historical weapons and accurate techniques tickles an itch

sweet quiver
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lightning morningstar

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make it now

storm crypt
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i really wanna see a Zweihander but used properly

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heavy attack grabs the brace and just straight-forward thrust

hard nexus
sweet quiver
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or

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a scythe weapon

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HHHHNNNNNGGGG

storm crypt
sweet quiver
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like the burial blade from bloodborne. could even be a switch weapon >:)

hard nexus
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i love half swording so much

sweet quiver
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or the blades of mercy. Special attack splits them into dual weilding smaller swords

storm crypt
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i just wish we had the devils claw but 2h. i really liked bret longsword with the "block while charging heavy" thing and the devils claw is close

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but no cigar

untold junco
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bret longsword was also ridiculously powerful

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so i kinda get not making it again

umbral kindle
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More powerful than what we have now with things like power sword? Eehhh

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Far as I can remember you weren't 2 hitting chaos warriors without ult

wintry forge
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hadron cooked?

quaint verge
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take it and get the thrust if you dont have a better one with stats distribution

rocky marsh
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dumb question but if you bleed someone, then move behind them does it ocunt as a backstab kill?

tropic pelican
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bret ls was versatile but i wouldnt call it overpowered

misty nova
oak ermine
frosty herald
misty nova
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Rend! Tear! AHAHAHA

visual blade
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is there a maximum bleed stack amount?

frosty herald
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16 i believe

oak ermine
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Yes, bleed as a dot can go up to 16

quasi marsh
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ya

visual blade
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what's the scaling also

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cuz like burn, i don't know what to do with the numbers

frosty herald
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i think 110+ at 16 stacks

visual blade
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so 110/16 is per stack?

frosty herald
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asuming your using it on an unarmored enemy or full rending stacks

quasi marsh
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i mean it depend son what you're bleeding no?

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but i know for sure its not linear scaling

visual blade
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sure but i'm either talking unarmored or before defences

quasi marsh
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let me smack a gunner around and ill get back to you in 1 second

frosty herald
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bleed before defense is useless

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at most

visual blade
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also try different damage stacks and whatnot

frosty herald
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youll be doing 16 damage at full stacks on a crusher

visual blade
quasi marsh
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i got 158 per tick

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on a dreg gunner

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sorry

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165?

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maybe

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idk

frosty herald
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it has weird scaling

quasi marsh
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maybe 1 dropped off in the previous time

frosty herald
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and idk whos ever figured out how bleed exactly works

quasi marsh
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kinda hard to do it because the fucker dies

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wait

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lacerate time

visual blade
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wait stacks drop off and don't get reset when applying a new one?

quasi marsh
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omg lacerate finally useful

visual blade
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try unyielding

quasi marsh
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nol i mean my crits were not reliable for flesh tearer

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so maybe it took a while before i hit the 2nd crit

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Yep

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165

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4 hits of lacerate

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lacerate finally useful based

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same on unyielding btw

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Only 69 on crusher

austere grail
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W 5 uncanny i think 16 stacks does 220ish per tick to crushers

quasi marsh
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but

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with rending it should be much, much better yeah

visual blade
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yeah what i meant was that because of gunners having less hp, a reaper or bulwark would work better to check

quasi marsh
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i know it ticks around 200 ye

visual blade
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uncanny

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for weak spot rending?

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2 things that i'd think don't affect bleeds

quasi marsh
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uncanny isnt rending on weak spot hits

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8its a rending buff as a reward for hitting weak spots

misty nova
quasi marsh
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as in

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its not a rending buff that only applies on weak spot hits

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its a rending buff that applies on all your attacks after you hit a weak spot

visual blade
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sure but

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they're bleeding

quasi marsh
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yeah

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rending is a self buff

visual blade
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why would "armor piercing" matter when an enemy bleeds

quasi marsh
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idk

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ask the obese megalodon

visual blade
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cuz that's what rending is, no?

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skinny dolphin

quasi marsh
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i mean

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in concept yes

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but all rending actually does is increase your ADM against unyieldinng/maniac/carapace/flak

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which is effectively "armor piercing" yes

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but results might differ slightly from the vision

austere grail
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Their cut gets bigger

quasi marsh
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i mean

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you might as well ask then

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why does inflicting bleed with your gun and then swapping nto your sword increase the dm gof the bleed if your sword has the correct perks for the armor type

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is your sword magical now

austere grail
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Psychic presence in the sword blessed by hadron makes enemies wounds worse

visual blade
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the machine spirit guides us

plucky sparrow
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Curse your local machine spirit by not activating windows today!

visual blade
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i'm a heretek. i got a cheap activation key

ember yew
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windows 10 pro cheap oem cough cough

visual blade
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i have precog 4 but not precog 3 unlocked

rocky marsh
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will uh, cknife martyr ever work? lunavodka

abstract quail
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this any usable?

austere grail
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Yeah thats reslly good

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Stam to maniac lets you guaranteed one tap specialists on the head, and point blank can be hand cannon or crucian roulette

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Or speedload even

ornate bone
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PS5 owners are now treated like black people in 1939 USA

We are now 2nd class gamers and neither Sony or Square care about us anymore

Just like black people had to give up their civil rights, we PS gamers are having to forfeit our exclusives...

Quoting Genki✨ (@Genki_JPN)

Square Enix announce shift to multiplatform strategy as part of their...

ornate bone
ornate bone
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flak?

jagged aspen
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what perks / blessings on flamer?

ornate bone
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blaze away blessing then whatever u want

placid fiber
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Flak/Unyielding/Maniac

ornate bone
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think flamer was maybe unyielding-flak

fleet zealot
placid fiber
placid fiber
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Yeah

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I wanna fart on my show

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Wait...

abstract quail
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25 golden revolvers and 0 handcannon 🥰🥰

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350+ base too

placid fiber
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Oof

placid fiber
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it's cheaper

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You might only get t3, but, t3 is better than nothing

abstract quail
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is it a "rarer" blessing like Deflector?

placid fiber
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Not really, I don't think

hushed knoll
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Hi dark

placid fiber
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Hi Stan!

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Did you eat canadian bacon and cheeseburger pizza yet?

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Maybe throw some horseraddish sauce on it

hushed knoll
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That sounds amazing ngl

fleet zealot
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Technically, blaze away is rare because it only rolls t3

radiant nacelle
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I thought Power Cycler was harder to get at t4 than other t4s?

obtuse stirrup
radiant nacelle
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It sure feels like Savage Sweep 4 for my chainsword feels super rare too 🙃

noble ingot
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got a chuckle from the stats distribution

fleet zealot
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Perception bias and other fun stuff with the human brain

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When t4 blessing is rolled, you have an equal chance of any of the blessings for t4

oak ermine
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good = rare
goodest = rarest

fleet zealot
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Since people only focus on PC4, any string of not getting it doesn’t come down to luck, the game must be rigged

oak ermine
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Meanwhile FS laughs and slaps themselves on the knee because they perfectly imitated the true RNG with the system

fleet zealot
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Also, people who lean into the unlucky territory are more likely to be vocal

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Then the people who get it quickly

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Developing a social perception that it must be rigged because you only hear the negative

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And not the ones that got pc 4 first try

austere grail
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I spent 30k plasteel trying for surge on void

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Still dont have it

fleet zealot
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Welcome to true rng

placid fiber
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Well... I am exited lol

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Hyperactively af excited >.>'

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Like squeeling with excitement lol

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adhd does that lol

fleet zealot
placid fiber
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It's like a kid on a sugar rush lol

jagged aspen
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whats good on the columnus 5

placid fiber
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Isn't it dum dum and uh deathspitter?

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I can't remember what blessings the infanty autoguns have

tropic pelican
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cute ferrets

jagged aspen
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bricked?

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bricked

placid fiber
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Pretty much yeah

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no ideal blessings or perks

jagged aspen
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my first proper brick

placid fiber
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It's like a right of passage!

jagged aspen
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hadron has been good to me

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until now

placid fiber
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If that's your first brick then you're doing something right lol

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Whatever you're doing the Hadron in your own time has been working

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Cause even people who were trying to bribe hadron like that got bricked left and right

left iron
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Just steal her unicycle whenever shes being annoying

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That'll show em

placid fiber
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followed by some salsa con queso and tostito corn chips

misty nova
jagged aspen
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cant roll guns anymore damnit

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this is the begining of the end

placid fiber
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Or maybe the end of the beginning

placid fiber
jagged aspen
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no

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ill try deleting my vet thatll work

placid fiber
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<.<'

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dun do it

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Vet is the worst one to level up

placid fiber
jagged aspen
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id rather turn heretic

placid fiber
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Same lol

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but make 3 more zealots

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Totally worth

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it

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Trust me, as a total non zealot main COUGH COUGH

jagged aspen
placid fiber
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I think flakiac

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Flak and maniac

jagged aspen
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i can only take one

ember yew
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flak

zinc talon
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DID OLL YEW LAFFINSTOKS COLL YER MUDDERS YESTADEY

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MUDDERS DAY WAS YESTADEY

fleet zealot
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I got her a card

zinc talon
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atsa lad

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I'm in trouble with mine

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cuz we had a family get together and catered BBQ

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hadn't had BBQ in a while so I ate two whole plates

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then promptly found a couch on the patio and passed out for the rest of the party

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she thought I'd left

minor hollow
signal vault
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am I better off running fury or martyrdom with a Rashad Mk. II combat axe? The attack speed is always really nice but the extra crit chance could also work well with how good crits are on this axe

placid fiber
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It does not work that well with shroudfield, tho

north sedge
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🤔

signal vault
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Yeah I'm currently running chastise with it

wintry forge
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what zealot melees have good braindead heavy attack cleave attacks

fleet zealot
zinc talon
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new chainaxe isn't horrible either

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I just wish it wasn't a flat bonk with no rev sounds, seems at odds with what it does

wintry forge
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dude i wish the heavy swords actually felt heavy

fleet zealot
zinc talon
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they did, in vermintide 2, compared to the others kerillian had

fleet zealot
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They have since launch

wintry forge
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they just feel like slightly longer normal swords

fleet zealot
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Kill 4 elites in one swing

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Get back to me

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Like it def feels like a heavy sword esp comparing it to dclaw

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Which is a “normal” sword

wintry forge
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not damage wise but animation wise ig

austere grail
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Yeah

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The d claw swings slower

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I hate that

fleet zealot
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Reminds me of demoknight tf2

wintry forge
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eyelander actually feels heavy

short dew
wintry forge
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the sword named heavy sword does not have that same feeling

fleet zealot
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It’s niche

short dew
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Haha

fleet zealot
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But it isnt garbo

short dew
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Funny

fleet zealot
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Meanwhile dont go crit with combat axes please

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Even if it is overtuned asf and it will work cause lmao 55% free crit chance

short dew
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Pick a talent that gives mid benefits but requires you to be bad at the game to get the benefits

placid fiber
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Yeah crit caxes is mid lol

signal vault
short dew
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Literal trap talent

zinc talon
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I've disliked martyrdom from day 1

fleet zealot
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It’s the tankiest keystone and has the best ceiling

jagged aspen
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whats good on knife?

short dew
zinc talon
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it actively encourages you to be a liability to your team

fleet zealot
frosty herald
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Its actualy a keystone

zinc talon
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day 1 martyrdom did have 100% heal tho

fleet zealot
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You got a small damage bonus and maybe a little bit of attack speed

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And it scaled with % missing hp

zinc talon
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so people could use it as a lifeline and not play into the martyrdom team liability

south folio
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martyrdom gives pretty stacked bonuses

fleet zealot
zinc talon
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shit oyu're right

fleet zealot
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Now it’s not a liability because you get defensive bonuses

north sedge
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Marty is stupidly tanky

zinc talon
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meh

frosty herald
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Get 50% less damage on breaking a wound holy revenant with martyrdom toughness dr and you become a tank

short dew
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I’d rather get benefits without being bad

zinc talon
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it's likely cuz I play team tank so much

fleet zealot
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You just dont take damage on purpose in higher diffs you let chip damage build up

rough galleon
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I love marty because I suck ass and take hits

zinc talon
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nothing makes me squint suspiciously at someone more than them refusing to heal when a charge is available

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then running into the next room and getting shot in the earlobe and dying

short dew
fleet zealot
south folio
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you don't have to be bad

rough galleon
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Yeah you can't edge the whole time

zinc talon
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cuz they wouldn't even take wound heals

south folio
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just intentionally take hits

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it's just that easy

short dew
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Terrible talent for terrible players, facts

north sedge
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I don't like marty because i find it very boring, don't need to avoid dmg or anything, super brain dead. But to call it bad is absurd

south folio
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you don't have to like it, but that does not make it bad

short dew
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It being bad makes it bad

south folio
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just that shrimple

jagged aspen
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what do?

fleet zealot
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Sometimes if i have no corruption ill skip heals if the next section isnt hard

short dew
wraith helm
jagged aspen
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damn you hadron

fleet zealot
short dew
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I wouldn’t use it

fleet zealot
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Outside of blazing scourge being dumb asf and crit cdr being braindead asf

minor hollow
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try this

fleet zealot
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Martyrdom is for chads

fleet zealot
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The god emperor may forgive you

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But i will not

minor hollow
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must fit the blazing

placid fiber
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without the cheez

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😭

fleet zealot
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Crit crusher is one of the abominations i fucking hate cause fatshark made weakspot/crit damage match on weapons

minor hollow
fleet zealot
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Next time i see someone going blazing crit chaxe

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I am blowing up this discord

fleet zealot
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No

placid fiber
fleet zealot
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Dont follow that @jagged aspen

jagged aspen
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ogryn at heart but my brain wont fail me like that

fleet zealot
placid fiber
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Awww

fleet zealot
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Dont go lacerate on knife

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Just go flesh tearer if you want to force bleed

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Never go lacerate

placid fiber
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What about scourge on a thammer?

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Just asking...

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For a friend...

frosty herald
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I should make a crit hammer build

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Just to annoy people

minor hollow
fleet zealot
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I fucking hate fatshark sure momentum could have taken a nerf

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But they didnt touch crit at all

minor hollow
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bleed make skill easy

fleet zealot
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Which needed a nerf last year

minor hollow
placid fiber
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Oh God

fleet zealot
minor hollow
fleet zealot
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Maybe you’ve bled too much blood from your brain

minor hollow
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10 critical 3times

obtuse stirrup
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doesn't flesh tearer only apply on crits btw? or am I misremembering it

placid fiber
minor hollow
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better than blazing

obtuse stirrup
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does it actually synergise with Scourge beyond the actual bleed stacking part?

fleet zealot
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Lacerate does not make up for the damage loss for not hitting s weakspot

fleet zealot
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And with scourge and blazing piety

minor hollow
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bleed is work for 50/100 critical

obtuse stirrup
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Yeah, you want to maximise crit shit anyway on combat blades, I agree.

fleet zealot
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You go beyond fishing for crits to simply throwing an obscenely large net

obtuse stirrup
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And lacerate bad

placid fiber
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What about my stagger knife build, that I am thinking about making? :3

frosty herald
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Using a non weakspot blessing

fleet zealot
frosty herald
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Alongside a weakspot blessing required the make the non weakspot do anything

obtuse stirrup
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There's so many great blessings for combat blade though

fleet zealot
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And you crit over half the time anyways

obtuse stirrup
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obviously uncanny required

fleet zealot
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So it is literally better than lacerate everytime

obtuse stirrup
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but that second slot has so many good options

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just not lacerate or haymaker right

fleet zealot
placid fiber
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@fleet zealot Can you imagine a stagger knife build? for the lulz

placid fiber
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Hehe

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It's less heinous than a crit thammer build, right?

fleet zealot
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So please

north sedge
fleet zealot
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Dont screenshot fuckin scourge like we are fresh mayflies

oak ermine
placid fiber
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I get the reference lol

fleet zealot
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We’ve been over this so long we have meme images of lacerate flesh tearer

minor hollow
fleet zealot
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Chastise is a guaranteed crit

minor hollow
fleet zealot
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So that means you get flesh tearer and scourge started instantly

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And for the 2nd one

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Flesh tearer is still better

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Lacerate does not make up for in the damage loss from not hitting a weakspot

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Like, precog and riposte are best but im past the point of arguing against bleed, people want to go it anyways

minor hollow
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flesh tear is trash

fleet zealot
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So the least i can do is guide then to the holy side of flesh tearer

austere grail
fleet zealot
minor hollow
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bleed just work for 3 times 10/100 crits

fleet zealot
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Bleed just work!

south folio
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right-side piety + base crit chance + knife crit chance is 45% crit chance alone

minor hollow
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you try the mod?

fleet zealot
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Flesh tearer workest the hardest bleed

fleet zealot
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Flesh tearer is just better

minor hollow
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lacerate easy to make the skill work

austere grail
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Flesh tearer is love flesh tearer is life

minor hollow
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you know?

fleet zealot
obtuse stirrup
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Lacerate is a crutch for if you aren't using the knife right

fleet zealot
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Im just going down to your level

fleet zealot
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Thank you very much

minor hollow
fleet zealot
# minor hollow

Yes and flesh tearer better than screenshot that tells me nothing

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Also you aren’t going to be spamming lights on ragers chest in real game cause it will be a pack and they will kick your ass if you play like that

minor hollow
fleet zealot
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Just go for headshots

fleet zealot
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Flesh tearer is better

south folio
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fleshtearer is going to achieve a higher average value with scourge up if lightspamming elites is the scenario

fleet zealot
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And you always get weakspot damage

minor hollow
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fleash is slower than lacer to reach 50/100 cirts

south folio
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no wait i did my math wrong

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it'll attain the same average value

shy river
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Bro just do uncanny/flesh tearer with crit talents if you want bleed

south folio
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5% + 15% + 30% = 50% crit chance

minor hollow
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i got all the level4 blessing

fleet zealot
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Chastise you open with crit

minor hollow
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you can try this mod

fleet zealot
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The mod doesnt matter

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You are in denial

south folio
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yeah I have loadout config installed

minor hollow
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all blessing i got

frosty herald
fleet zealot
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Anyways, what hits max stacks in a momentum shroudfield build first doesnt matter

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You should be doing push attacks and heavies to elites

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To the head

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Making lacerate useless

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Flesh tearer, not useless

south folio
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well, they are the type of person who didn't take duellist with their chastise setup
such is life

fleet zealot
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You are right

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No duelist

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Lolllollol

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I didnt even notice i was to fixated on double stacked cdr

minor hollow
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not need bleed any more, bleed works so fucking slow in crusher.

austere grail
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My god. Youre right

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Switching to lacerate now sir!

frosty herald
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Hmm i wonder why lacerate doesnt work on crushers

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Might have to do something with uncanny being weakspot hits

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Nahhh that cant be it

fleet zealot
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It came free with “what’s the best blessing for knife”

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If we are going by crusher kill times you’d do precog or riposte over both bleed blessings

minor hollow
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knife is fucking fast to got five times uncanny

austere grail
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Excellent point sir

fleet zealot
minor hollow
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flesh tearer is to slow got the cirts

fleet zealot
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No it isnt

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It is only slightly slower

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When you built specifically

minor hollow
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cirts means damage and

fleet zealot
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Not to get any crits

austere grail
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Datokoro you are right

fleet zealot
austere grail
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Me and nandit are switching to lacerate now!

fleet zealot
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Go blazing piety

minor hollow
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50/100 damage reduction

fleet zealot
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Obv

fleet zealot
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Lacerate for babies

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Who need the comfort of weak bodyshot

fleet zealot
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Swapping to lacerate flesh tearer

oak ermine
fleet zealot
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So i can have extra bleed

frosty herald
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Swapping to lacerate haymaker

fleet zealot
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And 50/100 crittier

oak ermine
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me, watching this conversation unfold still

frosty herald
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With sprint effecieny and stamina

minor hollow
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extra bleed is not useless

fleet zealot
minor hollow
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i just make 50/100 crits easy and faster

fleet zealot
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Just go riposte

minor hollow
fleet zealot
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Then

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Lol

minor hollow
#

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no

fleet zealot
obtuse stirrup
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I am fiddling around with my XV Evis build and would like a critique if that's ok

fleet zealot
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Without any bleed

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Ooooo

minor hollow
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16 bleed is also weak

oak ermine
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Do post the build

fleet zealot
obtuse stirrup
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let me set it up on gameslantern

minor hollow
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31 flam also kill crusher slow

ripe quest
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I miss uncapped rending + global hand cannon that let you 1 shot Crushers w/ knife, why did they nerf the PvE game smh my head

austere grail
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I honestly dont even know what this guy is trying to say

fleet zealot
fleet zealot
south folio
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you're taking bleed anyways with lacerate so I don't get the crusher situation (and also uncanny being a thing)

fleet zealot
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So he can get 50% crit chance from scourge

light mural
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Why did they nerf my fucking hammer into the ground pepemeow

light mural
austere grail
obtuse stirrup
fleet zealot
light mural
fleet zealot
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Wtf are you smoking

ripe quest
obtuse stirrup
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So the only real conditions I have on the build is that I want to run chorus on it

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just for the sake of having a chorus build

light mural
obtuse stirrup
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all my other builds are fury of the faithful (apart from my shroudfield knife build)

light mural
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The charge does less damage now

fleet zealot
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That is the only recent change

light mural
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Crushers and muties too?

fleet zealot
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I can think of

obtuse stirrup
#

also I realise I could alter my zarona to mutant/elite

fleet zealot
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Actually shocked

obtuse stirrup
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and will do that right now

fleet zealot
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Wtf did you do to your hammer

minor hollow
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flesh tear dps

south folio
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crushers got buffed from 2550 hp to 3600

fleet zealot
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That it cant oneshot a mutant

light mural
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Wtf did they do to my fuckin hammer

short dew
minor hollow
#

lacer dps

fleet zealot
fleet zealot
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Where is your thrust

minor hollow
fleet zealot
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Post your hammer

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Do it now

light mural
minor hollow
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your game time

light mural
fleet zealot
minor hollow
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total game time darktide

fleet zealot
light mural
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Never needed a headshot before?

short dew
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Also lacerate is shit and should never be used

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Ezpz

fleet zealot
minor hollow
#

?

obtuse stirrup
# austere grail Heres what i prefer to run

that's my old build with it lmao, I just wanted to try to grab the corruption cleansing aura this time though. I guess it's more important to have the extra top-right stuff though

fleet zealot
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Also time doesnt mean anything ive been playing since pre order beta

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If you have more hours than me great

short dew
obtuse stirrup
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I think the only difference I had was something else in the top right over ecclesiarch's call

south folio
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another knife user pulling out their hours

fleet zealot
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You are just no lifing with a shit build

south folio
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why is it always them

frozen glen
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i am a knife user pulling out my hours

south folio
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kill redverse

frozen glen
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totally not someone else's

oak ermine
fleet zealot
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Working backwards to justify your decisions

frozen glen
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extremely homosexual

noble ingot
#

can this be saved or is this bricked beyond repair?

light mural
oak ermine
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And it's OK-ish

oak ermine
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But ideally look for a better knife

short dew
obtuse stirrup
minor hollow
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yep

fleet zealot
oak ermine
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Executor is an OK blessing

fleet zealot
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Doesnt change that flesh tearer is better than lacerate

obtuse stirrup
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But maybe I do ditch the middle aura for left

north sedge
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Spicy morning in here today

oak ermine
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Unless you really want to

noble ingot
frozen glen
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you know they somehow remind me of darcy

fleet zealot
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Look guys its the B helm omgg

short dew
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If someone says lacerate is good they got some mad skill issues

oak ermine
fleet zealot
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Uncanny is a must always on knife

obtuse stirrup
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Feels very versatile

fleet zealot
short dew
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I disagree there but uncanny is amazing

fleet zealot
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I know for sure

obtuse stirrup
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Plus I'm using the IV assault on my veteran

fleet zealot
#

Ive met a ton of level thousands+ who have the skills of a fresh 30, they just no life and never improve

oak ermine
fleet zealot
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Well not a ton

ripe quest
# minor hollow flesh tear dps

Are you just smacking the enemy until stacks build up and leaving them to sit to die to bleed damage? With most elites you'd just hit them in the head regardless of your DoT, as you cannot make up the difference with bleed if you hit bodyshots due to such a high finesse mod. Because of this Lacerate gets gimped naturally, Flesh Tearer at least can proc, and other blessings have more viability.

Ideal situations have you use a Mk VI w/ FT and you cleave a small elite and bleed both, even then FT is only providing a buffer that lets you get a bit more out of your weapon for BPs (Precog, Executor, Riposte and even Mercy Killer or Haymaker do this too.)

oak ermine
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go get Sus Assault

noble ingot
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looks better, but I kinda still dig my older knife, despite the horrendous damage/penetration stats

oak ermine
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unless you know you can rely on your party to make good use out of the shared 20% damage buff

fleet zealot
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But it is a common thing

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There is just a point where hours played could just mean the person does nothing but play

obtuse stirrup
minor hollow
oak ermine
minor hollow
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lacer just make crits times much more and easier

fleet zealot
obtuse stirrup
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you know what

fleet zealot
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Idk if its possible to go 5 seconds without knife critting

obtuse stirrup
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who needs until death >:)

minor hollow
obtuse stirrup
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let's ditch that and see how this goes now lmao

fleet zealot
obtuse stirrup
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I do like the idea of having sussy assault

minor hollow
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lacer not need high cirts to make crits

fleet zealot
#

You should just go riposte uncanny

ripe quest
fleet zealot
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With momentum shroudfield

minor hollow
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you see the dps

oak ermine
minor hollow
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300dps is tears

south folio
#

this is an interesting morning

fleet zealot
minor hollow
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800dps is lacer

fleet zealot
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Dps with your shitty momentum shroudfield build

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Is not relevant at all to the conversation

obtuse stirrup
minor hollow
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it means more crits

austere grail
#

Heres what i prefer to run

south folio
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i'm glad that a single statistic from bodyshotting a mauler is the metric to decide mauler kill time

fleet zealot
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Plus exhillious can just do a better test anyways

oak ermine
minor hollow
austere grail
fleet zealot
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If you insist in momentum

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<@&735928989146939404>

ripe quest
# minor hollow crits means 50/100 damage reduction and it just keep 4s in one crits

iirc if you're beyond 40% crit chance you can keep EF up 100% of the time on knife and notably stuff like Dclaw/Chainsword light spam since it lasts so long. Knife has a high base crit chance and Scourge stacks up nearly for free on every enemy you. Blazing Piety is the nuclear option if you want EF to be up 100% of the time no matter your luck.

fleet zealot
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If you insist on momentum shroudfield knife, fuck lacerate and fuck flesh tearer and go riposte lol

ripe quest
minor hollow
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it is stupid

frozen glen
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too many word

minor hollow
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riposte just one time

fleet zealot
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6 seconds

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One dodge

south folio
#

wh

fleet zealot
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Lol

ripe quest
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Riposte is 6 seconds of +crit chance

obtuse stirrup
obtuse stirrup
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I'm trying to force corruption aura in

austere grail
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Lag

minor hollow
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faster attack with lacer means keep 50/100 crits

austere grail
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Yeah experimenting with stuff is good

obtuse stirrup
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but I think I'll stick with the way you did it

austere grail
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This game is kinda too easy anyway

obtuse stirrup
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I'm not sure what to put corruption aura into

fleet zealot
obtuse stirrup
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I want a build with it for pox gas levels, maybe twins and just the penance too

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but it feels like not taking TDR aura is almost always incorrect

minor hollow
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momentum can 15/100 attack speed improve

fleet zealot
minor hollow
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it is easy for blade

oak ermine
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The TDR aura has one thing going for it

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It is a straight path to FoTF

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So no tax

south folio
fleet zealot
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like, over 90% of your points are just, random spewing

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they are irrelevant

minor hollow
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15/100 faster means lacer can be easier to got 50/100 cirts

south folio
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no bias in selection was done

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if you just ignore the kill counter in the bottom-right

fleet zealot
ripe quest
# minor hollow faster attack with lacer means keep 50/100 crits

You can also scale this to Flesh Tearer. Already having a high crit chance + attack speed means you can apply 10 stacks per crit w/ FT and Scourge. Also lets you do good damage per swing with the base damage itself, as you're using the finesse mod and not just bodyshot/base crit.

fleet zealot
#

besides your dad in bed

austere grail
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It makes sense because maulers have flak on the body so you do more damage 🧠

fleet zealot
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hitting headshot

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it's very good on knife

rough galleon
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Hey guys what's going on

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Knife discussion? Sweet

austere grail
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We love knife

rough galleon
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Have a good one

jagged aspen
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is chain axe usuable in any builds?

frozen glen
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knife discussion for the 800th day straight in zealot chat

austere grail
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Knife is life

fleet zealot
oak ermine
fleet zealot
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only viable ability is chastise

obtuse stirrup
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Using Maulers to try to discredit weakspotting lmao

fleet zealot
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chain weapons don't work with shroudfield at all

rough galleon
austere grail
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Sadly, no, chain axe is never usable in any build 😔

minor hollow
fleet zealot
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cause lacerate doesn't make up for lsoing your high weakspot damage

minor hollow
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so bleed for me just for 50/100 cirts

fleet zealot
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which is the same as your crit damage

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so you are losing 1/3rd of your damage

ripe quest
fleet zealot
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at best

ripe quest
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Or Precog to even further boost the crit damage.

minor hollow
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riposte is useless

frozen glen
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yea dodging is hard

paper pine
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🤨

obtuse stirrup
fleet zealot
obtuse stirrup
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Factually bullshit

ripe quest
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It's 6 seconds of +20% crit chance, it's literally the blessing that this conversation needs

fleet zealot
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and they are both the best blessings knife has next to uncanny

austere grail
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He's right

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Dstokoro i believe u

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Ur goated

obtuse stirrup
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right up there with "birds aren't real" and "covid is fake"

minor hollow
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dodging means someone can make you dodging

frozen glen
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what

austere grail
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SO TRUE

fleet zealot
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i wanna see this logic continue

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so abd

obtuse stirrup
frozen glen
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i do not understand his words but im sure he is right

fleet zealot
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keep going

south folio
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if bleed damage doesn't matter, then why did you even bother remarking about the mauler dps

obtuse stirrup
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or maybe make a poster for it

obtuse stirrup
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one of those ones with the fancy calligraphy

minor hollow
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In some situations you can't wait to dodge

obtuse stirrup
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Who says I'm waiting lmao

frozen glen
fleet zealot
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you can't wait to dodge on a weapon that has some of the best dodges in the game

minor hollow
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Such as being surrounded, or teammates playing control

fleet zealot
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and basically 0 stagger

obtuse stirrup
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I feel like the dodge blessings are better for chastise knife zealots though tbf

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idk

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I'm bad at stealth zealot lol

fleet zealot
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riposte is the best option

south folio
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how you gon be surrounded with knife

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and you will still i-frame attacks even with minimum space

minor hollow
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i try riposte The coverage time is too short and the triggering conditions are unstable.

frozen glen
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surrounded by hot women cuz u told them u play knife as zealot in darktide

south folio
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this is the second 2k hour knife zealot to not understand core mechanics of the game before saying stuff

austere grail
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𝒹𝑜𝒹𝑔𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝓂𝑒𝒶𝓃𝓈 𝓈𝑜𝓂𝑒𝑜𝓃𝑒 𝒸𝒶𝓃 𝓂𝒶𝓀𝑒 𝓎𝑜𝓊 𝒹𝑜𝒹𝑔𝒾𝓃𝑔

fleet zealot
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anyways, all your "i need lacerate to get to 50/100" falls flat if you take chastise, since chastise a guaranteed crit

fleet zealot
#

6 seconds

minor hollow
fleet zealot
#

a poxwalker?

fleet zealot
fossil crag
#

you can also be a killing machine with a knife

south folio
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or use chastise to dash through a horde if I'm ever trapped

fossil crag
#

its cleave on mk 6 is good for a knife

fleet zealot
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knife has best dodges in the game, too unreliable tho

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gotta go to lacerate

south folio
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and the way that dodge procs can occur is comical

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if any enemy is targeting you and you dodge, it will proc blessings

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even if that enemy is a mile away

fleet zealot
ripe quest
south folio
fleet zealot
frozen glen
#

u can launch urself off of ledges

ripe quest
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There's a reason it was faster to dodge with the thing than to sprint back when Judgement had a 60% dodge cooldown reduction

oak ermine
#

By the way, is the optimal use of Flamer v Elites to apply stacks, to 14-15, chastise while still firing (to maintain BA), or do you let go of the trigger after you FOTF?

fleet zealot
ripe quest
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For Crushers you want BA up, otherwise it's not needed usually.

fleet zealot
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smaller elites, you could let go of the trigger, but for crushers, keep BA up

minor hollow
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20 crits chance also lower than lacer got 30/100

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riposte got 20/100 crits in one doge

fleet zealot
south folio
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and i don't want to hear about leaving responsibility to teammates from a shroudfield user

minor hollow
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lacer attack 3 or 4times

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can got 20 or more

fleet zealot
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riposte is 70/100

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in your build

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scourge just needs crit

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which is easy

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cause knife

south folio
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this is also the 2nd shroudfield user to accuse me of leaving a responsibility to teammates for being away from the team

oak ermine
#

Genuine question

Why does one need the 50% Crit chance if Enduring Faith can probably have an uptime of 100% even with the 20% baseline whatthefuck_heresy

minor hollow
#

and maybe can got bleed

fleet zealot
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and the maybe you can get bleed

south folio
#

so true
dodging is a rare occurrence in this game

fleet zealot
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is extremely big maybe

north sedge
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Arco has left me for death so many times (lolno we had to duo when josho and mankar were being idiots)

south folio
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this is why he needs 50% tdr at all times

fleet zealot
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also you are literllay building your own prison of shit

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you go momentum shroudfield

north sedge
south folio
fleet zealot
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all your problems can be solved by going blazing piety instead of momentum

steel agate
minor hollow
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An overly idealistic statement. A probability of 40 does not mean that there will be a critical hit, and when dodging in front of multiple enemies, you cannot guarantee that the next sword will land on a bleeding enemy.

steel agate
#

Must’ve not liked the shroudfield KEKW_ogryn

south folio
lucid dune
#

Lacerate is worst knife blessing. Period.

fleet zealot
south folio
#

at least from what i'm reading, they need +50% tdr at all times to sustain their playstyle of not dodging

fleet zealot
#

haymaker

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lacerate is 2nd worst

austere grail
#

Did this guy start using chat gpt to translate to english

lucid dune
shy river
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If you're going slash happy with a knife you're gonna get crit hits at least every 2 or 3 hits given you got some crit talents/riposte

fleet zealot
#

can't dodge

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needs 50/100

south folio
#

yeah, that's what the percent symbol % means

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50% = 50/100

minor hollow
#

and also for crits damage

lucid dune
#

your huge bodyshot crit damage?

fleet zealot
jagged aspen
#

i forgot to ask

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whats good on knife

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and what are te two knives good for

steel agate
#

Ones good for stabbing the others good for swiping

oak ermine
oak ermine
fleet zealot
oak ermine
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Like NOT LACERATE

south folio
#

become speedy to pick up materials and to snipe enemies

jagged aspen
#

lol

steel agate
austere grail
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Lets you solo a boss the easiest

south folio
#

such is life

austere grail
#

Knife does

south folio
fleet zealot
#

uncanny strike is a must, then precog and riposte are basically tied for best blessings, then it is executor, flesh tearer

south folio
#

just that it requires you to be sprinting at nonzero stamina

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swift uncertainty just makes it so that you don't need stamina for it

steel agate
#

Ya I be burnin through stamina so the talent’s mad nice

austere grail
#

I havent tried haymaker

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That seems fun

fleet zealot
#

haymaker is shit on knife

south folio
#

with ranged enemies, getting hit refunds stamina anyways

fleet zealot
#

idk why it exists

austere grail
#

Seems pretty cool on mk6

south folio
#

and if you're not running twbs, it's still fine nowadays because they removed ranged trash/gunner hitstun while running

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ranged enemies are just stamina generators for you

maiden path
#

hello homies

fleet zealot
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it is only good on ogryn clubs cause they have wide sweeping heavies

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even on mk6, you don't have the area to make haymaker useful

austere grail
#

How many enemies does it hit

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4?

fleet zealot
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i dont remember but it is more limited to how wide the sweep is, not the targets

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cause there is only so many targets that can fit in your swing

austere grail
#

Yeah

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Seems wide enough to be fun

frosty herald
maiden path
#

helvete

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pikksuger

median steeple
#

Happy Monday

frosty herald
#

AMERICA YA :D

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HALLO :D

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HALLO :D

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HALLO :D

maiden path
frosty herald
#

Benis posting

maiden path
#

his NAME

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is SPURDO

wraith helm
#

Knock out a mauler with a suckered punch cause why not

spare dome
#

swift Certainty is just for the beautiful 10% sprint speed

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I have a knife build that hits both of Zealot's move speed nodes + Certainty and it's just in case i load in with a Vet using Close and Kill

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It's so fast

wraith helm
#

If haymaker works on the punch of the knife, a punch only challenge may be possible

steel agate
#

I wish it counted then the name “haymaker” would feel more fulfilling

austere grail
#

Ogryn specials count as heavies

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Knife doesnt?

median steeple
#

I can't even identify the language being spoken

nimble fiber
#

the croc probably understood everything

rocky marsh
median steeple
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It's a gharial so a language around northern India/Nepal

ornate bone
noble ingot
#

finally... 500/500 throwing knife kills purityseal

lucid dune
#

I take it you didn't use Man-Cleaver?

fleet zealot
#

snackies

umbral kindle
#

Crop

fleet zealot
#

yes

#

not my pictures

median steeple
#

Bad crop? bro we're gonna starve

fleet zealot
#

the things i do for this server smh

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full image

frosty herald
#

albino creature

fleet zealot
nimble fiber
#

I wanna hear him on the drum

maiden path
#

this what that weasel doing

obtuse stirrup
#

Zarona meta for Zealot is maniac elite right?

median steeple
#

you can run flak, cara, maniac, or elite though im pretty sure people have preferences

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I would always put maniac on it though

shy river
#

Cara damage I think lets you hit a crusher 2 tap breakpoint with crit headshots

obtuse stirrup
#

Mine has maniac locked, I had Flak on the other slot

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But I wanna try with elite

#

I swear I talk about this game like 10x the amount I play it ATM though

#

Final fantasy 13 has borrowed my soul

terse wraith
#

any tips for unseen assassin

ember yew
#

i remember doing platinum trophy on my ps3 back in 2010

obtuse stirrup
#

I got it when it came out and didn't like it straight away

#

Didn't get past chapter 1 even

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But I absolutely love it now

ember yew
#

well its a linear corridor till chapter 12

obtuse stirrup
#

Chapter 9 and ongoing

ember yew
#

and even then its not much

obtuse stirrup
#

So is FF10 tbh

ember yew
#

yeah

obtuse stirrup
#

And everyone says that's a classic

ember yew
obtuse stirrup
#

It's just experimental as fuck

ember yew
#

classic is ff7-8-9

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i want my FF8 and FF9 remakes tbh

obtuse stirrup
#

But if you have no expectations it's wonderful

ember yew
#

even FF 13-2 is some drunkard on weed

obtuse stirrup
#

10 is a classic too

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I look forward to finding that out lmao

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I heard different configurations of that from different people though

#

Some say that 13 sucks but parts 2 and 3 are great

ember yew
#

13-2 is not that bad, but 13-3 shouldn't exist

#

well 13-3 flopped super hard, so it is what it is

inner vigil
#

btw, what perks/blessings are good for the blue chaxe (the one with single target heavies)? I am planning on using it on a piety build

ember yew
#

what is blue chaxe

#

use names

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rashad?

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and if you are talking about chain axes, you dont use them with piety

#

they are for martyrdom or momentum

inner vigil
steep hound
#

Is this a known bug? I have not equipped the Benediction talent nor played with other zealots, and yet I'm halfway done with this one lol

ember yew
#

with heavy