#zealot-class

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rocky marsh
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I don't crit on gunners enough cryge

spare talon
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Riposte is just my personal preference

quasi marsh
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you dont need to 1 shot them

spare talon
rocky marsh
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The gunners don't clump Al lthe time so I want to have faster ttk

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To mice to the next

fossil crag
mossy tulip
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Shred & rampage best on XV?

ripe bronze
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that what i did heavy attack then light attack on head

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i feel like i need to capitalize on duelist

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like the other guy said

spare talon
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They'll just stare at you like this as you shank them

rocky marsh
fossil crag
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use a third push attack

quasi marsh
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also

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even at max ht

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im pretty sure caxe still needs 2 light to kill gunners

rocky marsh
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Yes 2 lights but it cleaves and quite fast

quasi marsh
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you say that like knife attacks and movement are slow

rocky marsh
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But the heavy not so fast

spare talon
rocky marsh
quasi marsh
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heavy is fast though

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like

rocky marsh
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2 light on caxe feel faster than 2 heavy on cknife. But I guess this would go backvto what Cole said about how with caxe it's a damage focused build

quasi marsh
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you can charge a heavy while sprinting

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so the first heavy is basically instant

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then you can push atk if you want it even faster for 2nd

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there is no way the caxe user is going to kill it faster than u

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unless they fotf in

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but caxe is way worse at keeping fotf permanently available

rocky marsh
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As in, after thr first gunner, it feels like caxe has faster ttk

fossil crag
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sorry but what does fotf mean my brain is being an ogryn

rocky marsh
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Chastise

quasi marsh
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ctw

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fotf

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whatever

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the broken ability

rocky marsh
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Zealot charge

quasi marsh
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run up and get a gorillion buffs

quasi marsh
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but you are assuming the caxe user even gets there fast enough for this comparison to be relevant

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this comparison is taking out the entire reason you use knife

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because the mobility is leaps and bounds better than even the 2nd best option

rocky marsh
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Yeah the mobility feels good but I'm going to chastise the gunner on both weaposb anyway. Feels slightly frustrating to stab almost every gunner twice like I'm making holes in a Styrofoam box

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Hmm maybe I would like cknife more with riposte

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Don't get mad but tye mobility on cknife at least for zealot really just feels like a "wow this is super cool!" And nothing more

fossil crag
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@quasi marsh out if curiosity what server do you play in, as in region wise

quasi marsh
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idk why i would be mad

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if you feel that way its fine

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maybe you just dont like knife

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and NA west

rocky marsh
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Isk I'm convinced it'd just some build problem

Because atm I'm thinking why not just run crusher weapon if I'm going to piety spam with chastise anyway and it's much safer.

quasi marsh
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im not sure how you define safety

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but i feel like there is no weapon safer than knife

ember yew
quasi marsh
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you can skill yourself out of any situation

fossil crag
flint imp
rocky marsh
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With knife yeah you need to chastise if both your stamina and dodges are out, and given low stam and the shit dodge recovery that is quite common.
But jn the event all three are out you are kinda just eating damage even at lose range

At least with crusher you have hard CC

quasi marsh
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idk what you mean by the dodge recovery tbh

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are you sure you're not like

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running out of dodges or something

flint imp
rocky marsh
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No I'm running numeric ui
The time taken for the 4->5 ( I hope I don't remember the number wrong) on cknife feels way longer than caxe

quasi marsh
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hm

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well idk about that, i dont use numeric ui

fossil crag
quasi marsh
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i can say that i personally rarely have issues with running out of dodges but

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no he's saying

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he feels it takes longer for knife to get their dodges back

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than other weapons

rocky marsh
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That's what he's saying basically

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Both of you are aayong the same thing

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Or I'm just 80iq

quasi marsh
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maybe

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idk

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either way

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yeah idk about that, you'd have to time it

fossil crag
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idk my gun and knife feels like 1.5 seconds before it resets

rocky marsh
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I can tell you its feels much longer

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And it's not placebo because I went in blind not expecting anything faster or slower and noticed that I was getting negative dodges alot more on my usual dodge timings

fossil crag
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btw were you running this talent with the other weapon since it has dodge buffs

oak ermine
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I'm sure it's just my incompetence and this isn't a normal course of action whatthefuck_heresy

rocky marsh
quasi marsh
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lul

oak ermine
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Which is exactly why I like a single Stamina curio on Vet

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And don't play cblade on Zealot in the first place Sitgryn

fossil crag
rocky marsh
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@quasi marsh wait, actually whats the popint of rrunning precog, doesn't seem to break any BPs

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crusher also takes 4 crits on non precog

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oh wait nvm

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im dumb

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i didn't had precog activated

quasi marsh
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yeah uh

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was gonna say

nimble fiber
quasi marsh
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i can get 3tap without crits on precog

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crusher i mean

noble ingot
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Hmm.. perhaps I was harsh on the Zealot class when I got butthurt yesterday. Seems I've found a build that suits me lol
I tried the Martyrdom Ironhelm, I've fried heavy eviscerator, but nothing seemed to click with me and I sucked big time with those. Now I tried the combat blade and honestly I can see why so many use it

rocky marsh
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even on psk 1v1 crusher it was fucking hard to aim kirbyponkxd

fossil crag
austere grail
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I basically do that but i go down middle for immo

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Grenades

fossil crag
noble ingot
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I like how the combat knife puts out so many crits, my combat ability is always topped off

austere grail
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Yup thats my exact favorite build p much

fossil crag
austere grail
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Am I imagining this or is mk6 also faster attacking

noble ingot
fossil crag
austere grail
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Word

noble ingot
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this isn't even "perfect", this is downright bad, but that's the best I've got for now

rocky marsh
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precog-ed heavy doesn't even oneshot gunner cryge

fossil crag
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change lacarate to flesh tearer and critchance to unyielding and its a a good knife

noble ingot
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also just noticed that both my weapons have the same rating lol

wintry forge
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whats THE godroll knife perks and blessings

austere grail
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Thats a good knife bro

fossil crag
noble ingot
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62% penetration is gabro, tho

fossil crag
austere grail
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Yeah you have uncanny

coarse birch
austere grail
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And 62 vs 80 isnt as much of a gap as you think

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Probably like 10% damage

rocky marsh
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im thinking of building a new one with uncanny riposte

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uncanny precog doesn't one shot gunner on dodge

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i havent try ripose

coarse birch
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Does it give you a BP elites wouldnt

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A reliable one

austere grail
fossil crag
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@austere grail out of curiosity are you free since i would like to redeem this KEKW_ogryn

austere grail
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Im on vacation lol

coarse birch
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Arco also does riposte/flesh tearer and leans full crit so he maintains like 80% crit chance

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Which also worke

rocky marsh
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ok fuck it im building a new knife

rocky marsh
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riposte uncunny

coarse birch
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(Crits make uncanny essentially not needed so he goes flesh to help with horde clear since he runs tknives)

rocky marsh
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even on crusher no diff?

coarse birch
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Yeah cause knife crits are really dumb + crit rending

fossil crag
austere grail
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Damn xbox knife gaming

rocky marsh
coarse birch
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Well cause not every class can maintain 80% crit chance or they want to take momentum

wintry forge
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uncanny affects bosses too right

austere grail
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Ye

coarse birch
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Or if you arent taking tknives/run flamer it doesnt matter

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Uncanny riposte is still probably better overall

noble ingot
rocky marsh
rocky marsh
coarse birch
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Uncanny just gives you consistently good damage and you can keep high crit chance anyway

rocky marsh
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no change*

noble ingot
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that's the same knife as I've posted above, I just unlocked Riposte 4 and replaced Lacerate 3

wintry forge
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also what blessings should i be aiming for on the heavy swords

noble ingot
fossil crag
coarse birch
austere grail
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Perfect strike is pretty fun on a blazing piety build, you can spam light attacks through bulwark shields and crushers

coarse birch
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Like an extra heavy

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And thats not counting duellist and all that

rocky marsh
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gunner no die instantkly

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ok im going uncunny riposte

austere grail
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Yeah good enough combo

rocky marsh
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i forgot to take that into account

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FUCK

coarse birch
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Generally id take riposte uncanny

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So thats fine

austere grail
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Big fan of flesh tearer uncanny personally. Dont have to worry about focus firing enemies. Just spam random heavies and lights into horde

coarse birch
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As i said its for a somewhat specific build anyway

fossil crag
clear knot
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rashad can 1 tap gunners on lights

coarse birch
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Yeah iirc he maintains 80 with riposte up + 15% crit innate from heavies + 5% from zealot + riposte + scourge + piety

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I think thats everything

rocky marsh
clear knot
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i dont use martyr

rocky marsh
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ooo

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mommentum?

austere grail
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I get 80% with no ripose

clear knot
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ya

fossil crag
austere grail
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I have 5% perk

rocky marsh
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im too trash to maintain consistent 10 stacks after duration nerf

austere grail
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I cant back this up with math but my gut feeling is that 5% crit is BIS for knife

clear knot
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like, the +5% stat when u upgrade it?

austere grail
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Ya

fossil crag
austere grail
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Fuck em we ball

clear knot
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no it sucks

austere grail
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Imma need irrefutable math

clear knot
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use flak + elite or maniac, cara or unyielding if you really wanna

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well im not giving that to you

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ask like, exhil or smth

drowsy steppe
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knife already has innate 15% crit chance

austere grail
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Make it 20 B)

drowsy steppe
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the rest of your critfishing comes from scourge and piety

coarse birch
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Ye you can maintain plenty of crit chance without giving up a perk

drowsy steppe
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your perks go to armor types

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not more crit chance

fossil crag
drowsy steppe
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oh god I just reopened DT after awhile, opened my Vet, looked at my build and its shout with Plasma

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๐Ÿ’€

austere grail
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And powersword milord?

fossil crag
coarse birch
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I play knife on psyker mainly but i would ye

drowsy steppe
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nah thankfully I have rashad equipped

austere grail
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Slightly flavorful then

coarse birch
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Although precog also works better on zealot cause attack speed

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So id probably run precog

drowsy steppe
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I shall now run this on my Vet

austere grail
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Real men run both dodge blessings

coarse birch
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I do actually have a riposte precog knife on my psyker

austere grail
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None of this stack building nonsense

coarse birch
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Multiple even

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Havent tried them yet tho

rocky marsh
fossil crag
# coarse birch

can you try the mk6 on your pysker ๐Ÿ‘€ since it has good cleave for a knfie with heavy + push attack. and im pretty sure if you run 3 stamina regen efficiency perk and you will not lose stamina. since i think pysker has the least stamina delay out of all the classes

void bison
coarse birch
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I never liked the 6 much sadly

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I do have a very good 6 on my psyker though

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I never need the cleave cause assail and no TWBS can make it slightly annoying to get off sometimes

rocky marsh
coarse birch
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PA is nice tho

austere grail
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That could be you...

lusty turtle
coarse birch
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it is a little uh

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goofy

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silly even

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although the alternative is uncanny which is also uh

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questionable

fossil crag
lusty turtle
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crits have inbuilt rending

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on all crits on all weapons

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so you get better ADMs into most enemies

fossil crag
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thanks by any chance do you know the crit rending amount

coarse birch
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wish i could take cara off though

lusty turtle
lusty turtle
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because they do all their DPS "testing" on crushers

coarse birch
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surely the thing you have an ADM into is what you test DPS on

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ig if you wanna know what it is on crushers specifically

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can we just remove crit strings skele

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make that shit one bullet

lusty turtle
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i WISH

coarse birch
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on columnus it also causes your gun to jam

lusty turtle
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unfort i think some things have like stuff balanced around strings

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like charmed reload

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which is dumb

coarse birch
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i dont even mind if we juiced the damage of the one bullets weakspot

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oh rigght

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well

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ogryn can get removed

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right

drifting wolf
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day and a half late but yeah, bug loadout is something similar to what i've been running, it is fun

ashen pecan
rocky marsh
austere grail
coarse birch
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flak

austere grail
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Cara is a good pick I think

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Stab maulers and crushers in the head

fossil crag
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he might use his staff for those ๐Ÿ‘€

austere grail
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Oh i see

coarse birch
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uncanny makes the cara perk matter a little less generally although its not worthless

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does technially let me hit a crusher one less time

rocky marsh
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yoshi if i have uncanny, do i still need flak for 1 hit gunner on crit for mk3

still quartz
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Oh thanks Melk

coarse birch
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most stuff from the talent tree probably puts you over

fossil crag
coarse birch
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its a consistent 2 shot anyway

austere grail
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Reload speed might be goated for revolver

drowsy steppe
lusty turtle
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its not, but thatd be so Fatsharkcore

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psure crits in VT2 just bypassed armour entirely

coarse birch
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Wtf

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Why does FS like making very in depth mechanics and then letting players turn them off

drowsy steppe
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gotta cater to the reddit playerbase

lusty turtle
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strength potion in VT2 ignoring armour and boosting damage

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and GK can just generate them

coarse birch
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Wait that sounds

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Slightly familiar

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Good thing they didnt just put it on chastise ๐Ÿ™‚

lusty turtle
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this is worse than chastises, STR pots were unhinged

drowsy steppe
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imagine we put a blessing that can ignore armor entirely

lusty turtle
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they buffed grenades too iirc KEKW_ogryn

fleet zealot
austere grail
drowsy steppe
austere lagoon
austere grail
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Thats pretty good

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Id use it if youre broke

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Weakspot to flak/cara/elites and thrust to headtaker

mellow quest
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Mobility is a dump stat. You want that the lowest w rest of stats maxed

still quartz
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I wish all [Scoreboard Mod Users] a very [Stop keeping me stuck in the goddamn end screen to read your numbers like you're some kind of mathematician you pricks]

austere grail
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Huh? Cant you leave whenever you want

still quartz
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Nope

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:C

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Spamming Spacebar for my life

north sedge
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ah hah, i see you have fallen into my little numbers trap

still quartz
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You don't even know what those numbers mean

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Math isn't real, everyone knows that

north sedge
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sure i do, 80085 is boobs, 69 is nice, that's all i need

still quartz
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That's just meth

north sedge
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no meth is knife zealot

still quartz
ornate bone
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no meth is what psykers are on 24/7

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that and some lsd

rocky marsh
maiden path
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payday 3 is so sad

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game sucked so muich weiner......

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actually kind of bananas

obsidian prairie
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Good thing they put out a playtest so I didn't buy it

visual stream
maiden path
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i remember playing it on gamepass

visual stream
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Hopefully they pull it together but even the things that work on it don't feel satisfying

maiden path
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and instantly alerting a cop

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and then leaving

visual stream
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Full health bar = 2 bullets
1 armor bar segment (that regenerates for free if not broken) = roughly 40 magazines

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Like xd

obsidian prairie
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1 single 7.62 fired by a man with a longer barrel and laser sight: Literally all of it

rocky marsh
maiden path
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i wishe....

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got like 300 hours on payday 2

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now i have no clue how to play it

rocky marsh
frosty herald
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After leech and copycat got added you dont really need to think about gameplay in payday 2

frosty herald
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Extremely strong perk decks

maiden path
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i only got to level 80 i think

frosty herald
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Leech made you invincible and if you downed you would get your revives back after kills

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And copycat allows you to use any perk card

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But in order

rocky marsh
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there was such a thing in pd2?

ember yew
rocky marsh
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i just remember running explosion + shotgun build
then meta became dodge + twin pistols (very boring meta)

At least the shotgun one you can explode their facemasks off and shotgun their face, was satisfying

maiden path
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why was shakesphere allowed to write plays

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when he was saying shit like

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"The lady doth protest too much, methinks"

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what the fuck do you mean 'methinks'

austere grail
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That means he thinks

maiden path
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stupid as fuck

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just say I think

misty nova
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People at that time probably thought the same lol

austere grail
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Beb beb doth protest too much methinks

maiden path
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bastard

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me and my friends would beat shakesphere to death with hammers

solar gorge
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someone arrest this miscreant

austere grail
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Thou art mad, perchance upset

misty nova
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Methinks, therefore meexists

solar gorge
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fucking jar jar binks

hushed knoll
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And if jar jar got sand in his eyes he jar jar blinks

maiden path
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mesa think you egg

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stabs

frosty herald
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Darth jar jar is canon

maiden path
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mesah turn to the dark side

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mesah learn force lighting with tongue

frosty herald
noble ingot
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man, the way you sometimes study the blade is so cool

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I wonder if other players can see it this way

sterile basalt
merry flume
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finally....wake me up when content drops

hushed agate
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How many hours???

merry flume
merry flume
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1000+ hours of solo auric ๐Ÿคฎ

rocky marsh
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solo auric

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1k hours

spare dome
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hades 2 has kept me away from my 3k milestone

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but it shant for long

rocky marsh
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|| both seem boring after 1k smileyasuda ||

north sedge
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Wildly different games

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And any game old after that much

rocky marsh
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of course i know they are wildly different games

ripe quest
rocky marsh
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helldivers 2 is a dissapointment to someone who played HD1

hushed knoll
ripe quest
hushed knoll
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Oh God if you summon Dough he will implicate me in things that aren't my fault

ripe quest
hushed knoll
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WTF

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I NEVER SAID ANYTHING RACIST

ripe quest
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Clearly you weren't as there as I was.

hushed knoll
hushed knoll
ripe quest
hushed knoll
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That's not true

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You lie

ripe quest
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I'm pretty sure it's true that I'd get at least a warn for quoting blatant racism.

ripe quest
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john Helldivers 1 has spoken

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Outside of the PSN drama it's just kinda looked like HD2 was a faithful remaster of HD1.

north sedge
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And like, it was so immediately apparent

spare dome
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Hd2 really is just Hd1 in 3d, but also, none of the tension of everyone living on a single life

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And sharing a screen

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And actually having to employ teamwork of some kind

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Or any of the other things that made it unique

ripe quest
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Friendly fire in 3 dimensions hits different, there's so much raw intent being killing friends now.

spare dome
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BUT OTHER THAN THAT

hushed knoll
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HI DOIGH HI H DIUGH

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DOUGH

rocky marsh
north sedge
median steeple
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man the new assault rifle makes me so fucking sad

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its just worse than the liberator not even a side grade

ripe quest
north sedge
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My hot take is that people blow balancing in hd2 way out of proportion

ripe quest
north sedge
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Yea

spare dome
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Hd1 weapons was basically Trident > Everything else

obsidian prairie
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I never really saw trident

north sedge
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And i enjoyed hd1 but it wore out for me very quickly

obsidian prairie
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Heavily abused sickle myself

ripe quest
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Tenderizer is literally a 1:1 base Liberator with less recoil, more ammo, at the cost of .6 bullets per second. It's super boring as a premium weapon.

hushed knoll
rocky marsh
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i shot the charger backside with the default mg

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2 magazines

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no die

median steeple
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less recoil, fire rate, and less ammo is hardly a side grade

north sedge
median steeple
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its just plain worse

rocky marsh
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hd1 you could NOT use the rumbler and have good builds for every type of enemy

median steeple
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It has less ammo per mag but more mags is hardly an upside

north sedge
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True it sucks that you can't kill a charger with a weapon not meant for that

spare dome
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i mean ill be real weapon balance was almost irrelevant in hd1 because what you actually did was throw out distraction beacons and fucking run

hushed knoll
median steeple
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like the weapon is just bad

median steeple
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megan

hushed knoll
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DOUGH WHY

spare dome
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but also talking hd1 balance is pointless because it was functionally very different. there are still dummies that think the EAT-ITs should one shot all armored enemies like in the first game, even though our line of sight is now the horizon instead of a 40x40m box

spare dome
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inevitably someone goes hurrdurrr but its PvE

hushed knoll
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Go

ripe quest
# median steeple It has less ammo per mag but more mags is hardly an upside

There are so many ways to look at it that this is essentially a glass half-full vs. half-empty argument. It's got like an entire mag of more ammo at the cost of .6 (ZERO POINT SIX) firerate. Chances are you're not sustaining fire for long enough to even see a difference in performance. The things it gets and the things it loses are the tiniest differences that the weapon is functionally a Liberator reskin.

north sedge
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It's pve buffs only every quasar shot should be a mininuke

rocky marsh
spare dome
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Like I sincerely doubt we're going to see a return of the chain-linking Rep-80

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Or at least the mech repair aspect of it

rocky marsh
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that one was cool to watch someone pop out

obsidian prairie
rocky marsh
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imo hd2 is popular mainly because of cool explosions and graphics (nothing bad with that, not easy to do well, along with the sound and damage feedback and damage states of different enemies)
Its just that im more into gameplay, and i found that HD1 executed that better

obsidian prairie
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But also probably not seeing as how theyโ€™ve limited healing

rocky marsh
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3D damage states is actually something alot of people take for granted.

ripe quest
# rocky marsh railgun was a must for a long period of time..

Knowing what the support weapon stats were at the time, it doesn't really seem like the same tier as what I've heard HD1 has. Not to mention, Railgun was changed to not be as strong. Even now, it's functionally the same weapon as it used to be but with a bit less durable damage, and it's not perceived as strong.

spare dome
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HD2 is very thematic. Everything it does is in service to its own idea and I admire that. Easily one of the most exciting loading screens of all time.

north sedge
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I think hd2 gameplay is more interesting/better generally

spare dome
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But that's about where it ends for me nowadays.

rocky marsh
rocky marsh
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theres some stuff like you need to aim for more specific weakpoints, and those might change (i.e. pilot behind vs just head)
instead of center of mass but i didn't find that to be a very big upgrade
shooting down the VTOL dropships was cool though

obsidian prairie
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Ice world PTSD

median steeple
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muscle enhancement is your friend

obsidian prairie
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Old ice worlds

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Which were

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massively worse

spare dome
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Yeah mandatory boots or jumppack

north sedge
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Boots dlc baby

rocky marsh
obsidian prairie
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Oh boy I sure do love dropping my 40% stratagem CDR perk so I can walk

spare dome
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That we ever had a 40% cdr perk was ridiculous lol

obsidian prairie
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100% uptime napalm

spare dome
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"Hmmm yes a revolver for a pistol totally competes with this choice"

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But Hd1 was made as a joke

obsidian prairie
#

I forget which galactic war they are on now

#

it's in the 200's though

rocky marsh
# spare dome But Hd1 was made as a joke

i honestly felt it was a very good game, and very unique.
they took something they sorta familar with in magicka and made such a different game, not only thematicallyh

that also adds on to why HD2 was kind of a dissapointment to me.
I

spare dome
#

Oh it was a very good game

#

But it was also made as a joke

#

They kinda stumbled into success with it

rocky marsh
#

and the starship troopers

spare dome
#

It's like FatShark and Vermintide where they were like, "Look we didn't honestly expect a bunch of you weirdoes to play this for 1,000hrs"

rocky marsh
delicate shadow
#

this is true

#

though also it took me 1000 hours to get all my red weapons

shy river
#

HD1 being a top down shooter cursed it to obscurity

delicate shadow
#

so kinda odd they made a 1k hour loot grind but didn't expect people to go more than 200

spare dome
#

They expect you to do the reasonable thing and stop

delicate shadow
#

hell my first red was at around 250 hours

spare dome
#

But they don't know GAMERS

rocky marsh
north sedge
#

Tbf almost nobody makes a game expecting that kind of playtime, usually when they try it fails miserably

spare dome
#

I bought HD1 in full twice. PlayStation and PC

#

Several hundred hours in both

ripe quest
north sedge
#

I didn't hear about helldivers until it had been out for like 5 years anf and I played both magicka games

spare dome
#

God Vermintide crafting was such shiiiiiiiiit

delicate shadow
#

silly design choice

ripe quest
#

mrw I have to test a bunch of shit so my HD2 hours are nearly at 500 but I'm only at level 68

rocky marsh
spare dome
#

The forge door sfx lives in my brain rent free

rocky marsh
#

not multiplayer too

#

there is coop but optional

delicate shadow
#

there are plenty of games that aren't very grindy at all that I get hundreds of hours in

rocky marsh
#

1k easy

spare dome
#

Man, I wish I knew how many hours I have in FTL

ripe quest
spare dome
#

Harvest Moon

ripe quest
#

Gmod

delicate shadow
#

stardew valley

spare dome
#

Postal 4

shy river
delicate shadow
#

GTA san andreas

ripe quest
rocky marsh
# ripe quest Terraria ๐Ÿ’ช

oh yeah, but only modded no?

Gmod is technically multiplayer

Anyway im surprised no one got this correct given how I praise the game so much

#

|| nioh 2||

spare dome
rocky marsh
#

ok 4am

ripe quest
rocky marsh
#

me me go sleep

ripe quest
spare dome
#

filthy

rocky marsh
fleet zealot
#

all my gmod hours are TTT

ripe quest
#

The rest is Singleplayer or DarkRP. I've been anywhere from a mod to a head admin on larger servers.

shy river
ripe quest
#

I also have probs another 1k hours on PS Vita and 3DS combined

spare dome
#

I started RPing on The Specialists for HL1

rocky marsh
# ripe quest

goddam did you have like 3 friend groups then each time play for 2 months, reset progress due to some life stuff and be like "hey lets play terrria again"

#

i don't think a full run or "casual" 100% would take like 1k hours right?
I have no idea because i never touched terriria beyond like 5 hours

ripe quest
#

There was a period of a few years where I was genuinely able to recite any bit of info from the wiki by memory

#

I would just open the wiki and read it in classes

rocky marsh
#

ah so you became a speedrunner for the game

ripe quest
#

only for a few hundred hours, I didn't do it much.

rocky marsh
ripe quest
#

It was hard to compete since there were some crazy skilled players at the time

#

those playthroughs are upwards of 120 hours for me

shy river
#

ashamed of this one

rocky marsh
rocky marsh
rocky marsh
spare dome
#

oh i mean

#

thats kinda unfair

rocky marsh
#

not unfair only truth

spare dome
#

hades is brand new so im still breaking shit in exciting ways

rocky marsh
#

idk not everything has to be "correct"

spare dome
#

if both dropped on the same day then i could really evaluate it

rocky marsh
#

like when dough replied that i was staregryn

spare dome
#

but seeing as i have 3k hrs of DT

#

probs dt

undone pewter
#

is the roguelike more fun or horde shooter

#

idk

shy river
#

surprised tf2 is still up here

rocky marsh
spare dome
#

it's hard to oversell how they fukken nailed the combat in DarkTide

rocky marsh
spare dome
#

like i can state some complaints but once you're in the actual combat loop all of it kicks ass

median steeple
#

600 hours in for honor

#

its so over

spare dome
#

and personally i cant identify with people who put the game down because of a lack of story or end game or w/e

#

gameplay is all that matters

#

how do IT FEEL

#

what is them VIBES

rocky marsh
spare dome
#

are they GOOD VIBES

coarse birch
#

yeah DT gameplay has carried p much all of 1.5k hours for me

undone pewter
rocky marsh
#

when KF3 releases i will see you guys in the KF discord NormalTekken

stone fern
rocky marsh
#

KF2 got boring fast but imo peak KF2 gameplay > peak DT gameplay

#

DT has more variety though thats for sure.

stone fern
#

"oh noo if players dont have something to work towards theyll leave!!!"

spare dome
#

crafting placates the same groups as the penance rework

spare dome
#

peeps that require extrinsic reasons to play

stone fern
#

my brother in the emperor i have 700 hours with the same weapons

spare dome
#

which just isnt me

rocky marsh
#

see you there controlling akimbo revolvo recoil like a wannabe CSGO player

undone pewter
#

after some of the interesting changes they made at the end of KF2 I'm considering but not sold on3

median steeple
#

after PD3 its a wait and see type of game

rocky marsh
undone pewter
#

the weapon sales mainly

rocky marsh
undone pewter
#

also can it not be 80000000 gigs big

rocky marsh
rocky marsh
#

i only actually don't support epic games, so i don't even claim their free games

lean lark
#

they can't ride on the gameplay loop being mildly entertaining for the rest of time

#

I'd be happy if they add actually new weapons entirely

lean lark
#

darktide

undone pewter
rocky marsh
#

for DT i want new gameplay mechanics and tech but thats not happening because im a vocal minority.

lean lark
#

lol

#

they sure will add new weapons

undone pewter
#

they said they are though

lean lark
#

I'll see you in half a year

#

when they actually deliver

median steeple
#

never gonna get the helgun but I'll keep coping

lean lark
#

the "new weapons" are going to be 2 new marks for 3 weapons

undone pewter
#

no new new weapons

#

again they said this already lol

frosty herald
#

Catfish confirmed entirely new weapons

lean lark
#

can't wait for that sweet sweet power creep

rocky marsh
lean lark
#

so people will mega mald and try forcing changes by constantly ranting about them

frosty herald
#

Need my greatsword

rocky marsh
#

its going to something two handed like fuck iwas typing and that guy typed it already lol.

frosty herald
#

If fatshark was cooking they will add a power zweihander

rocky marsh
#

its going to be a two handed weapon everyone is asking for and then its going to play largely similar to existing weapons / one dimensional

median steeple
#

WHERE IS MY MELTA FATSHIT

#

PLEASE

flint imp
onyx solar
#

gotta have skillz

lean lark
#

not really

rocky marsh
lean lark
#

lol

onyx solar
#

if you arent sweaty you aren't ready

lean lark
#

all you need to beat auric maels is a hsword with zealot and that's it

onyx solar
#

sorry do I need a /s

lean lark
#

hand it to a toddler

#

games over

frosty herald
#

Brock is too busy with elden ring colliseums

onyx solar
#

yeah tbh all you need to succeed in auric maelstrom is a good team to carry you

lean lark
#
  • I've been carrying people vs malenia because pvp is kind of shit currently so it's on hold
#

get your facts straight

frosty herald
flint imp
undone pewter
#

as long as it isn't like powermaul tier bad I think the new weapons will be fine

lean lark
#

auric storm survivor

#

truly the shittiest achievement

lean lark
#

because it's just "look guys look I play in a full party"

median steeple
#

lord please make it a private game penance im so tired of weirdos in my games

undone pewter
#

i did it with randoms am I super ASS?

median steeple
#

SASS

lean lark
#

they should've added a title for the 2.5k barrel kills penance

#

because that's what real skill is

undone pewter
#

unironically

ripe quest
earnest tiger
undone pewter
#

amazing idea

frosty herald
#

A little barrel trinket

#

Ngl

flint imp
frosty herald
#

Cyber falcon and archivum sage are much cooler titles

rocky marsh
frosty herald
#

fromsoft adding this completely useless room in sofia river

hushed knoll
spare dome
#

Sept 11, 2001

ripe quest
#

2002's

spare dome
#

Lmfao

#

you funny fucker you

visual blade
#

how to do loner penance

#

running this currently but have no clue how to do it

#

only got 6 on my previous run

#

can also see this setup working, also going into piety

median steeple
#

stealth it prob the way to go for it

undone pewter
#

use stealth yeah I personally used the mk6 knife for the sweeping heavy too

flint imp
# visual blade how to do loner penance
  1. Be alone like out of coherency

  2. Shove n melee in the back

Also some enemies like stalkers don't count and the Yello bois when they pull out their shanks don't count I believe

visual blade
#

STALKERS DON'T FKING COUNT

#

SHOTGUNNERS?

flint imp
#

Yes

visual blade
#

WHAT ABOUT MELEE ATTACKING GUNNERS?

visual blade
#

dregs have no gunner equivalent, just stalker

flint imp
visual blade
#

i'm missing 1 point for duelist

#

what elites

#

gunners are elites

flint imp
visual blade
#

those are shooters

#

so 100% count

#

unless the game wants us to literally kill elites and specialists

flint imp
ripe quest
#

mrw the penance that wants you to kill ranged enemies only counts a single enemy

visual blade
#

single enemy type

#

but lol

astral hound
ripe quest
#

err yeah. 2-3 total enemies. I can't quite recall the Scab Stalker labelling.

astral hound
#

with knife you can fist enemies infinitely

visual blade
#

shoving and punching with knife sounds pretty helpful

astral hound
#

i recommend you do it at the same time as stealth and knife penances

visual blade
#

that would make me wanna kms

astral hound
#

i got all three in about a quarter of an hour

#

well i was fairly far into stealth and knife penances at that point

visual blade
#

i did stealth and knife before just so i don't put all my eggs in one basket by having a fast pistol, single target pistol, knife and also a single target "grenade"

astral hound
#

but you get the idea

visual blade
#

geeked up playing x box all day

astral hound
#

Oh you're an xbox player?

maiden path
#

geeked up playing x box all day

visual blade
#

geeked up playing x box all day

blissful frigate
#

Playing knife zealot on a controller has to be something

visual blade
#

the brainrot has yet to reach these, beb

blissful frigate
#

It's the only melee that really makes me flick on on lights and heavies

visual blade
#

i have't seen a more beautiful thing

hushed knoll
maiden path
#

hello its me saltspayreke

#

where my 0'3 babies at

hushed knoll
#

I can't imagine being born that late

ripe quest
hushed knoll
icy otter
#

Hey guys, good evening

#

How do I get tier 3 and 4 blessings?

maiden path
placid fiber
#

Melk, once you are a high enough level or upgrading high enough quality of weapons

maiden path
#

untill your skin melts off your bones

#

then maybe you'll get the tier 4 you want

icy otter
#

Dang

placid fiber
#

It's annoying

maiden path
#

crafting update soon doe

icy otter
#

Oooh, gotcha

#

Let's hope they fix the crafting fr

#

Rn it's a hot mess

astral hound
#

'soon'

shy river
#

"The next weapon hadron does will surely have the T4 blessing I want"

fossil crag
astral hound
#

bleed knife...

fossil crag
#

it from scourge my punch makes it bleed

#

also did you know that all you need to proc scourge is one bleeding enemy being hit multiple times with none crit/crit melee ๐Ÿ‘€ ||since i always thought i needed to crit to proc scourge like a stupid dumbass||

austere grail
#

Woah

fleet zealot
median steeple
#

very limber

lusty turtle
maiden path
spare dome
#

i cant fffFFFFFUCKEN MINE IT

#

WHEN YOU PUT FIRE ALL OVER IT

#

AAAAA

#

why doesnt it END

north sedge
#

To taunt you

spare dome
#

ok i got it

#

good thing i stomped the boss and had all my DD's

north sedge
#

Eris?

hushed agate
#

God blades of faith is so aids on Xbox

#

Its impossible to use effectively with it being bound to down arrow

placid fiber
#

A lot of things are aids on console >.>

#

I don't doubt that blades of faith are aids on console, tho

maiden path
#

holy shit

hushed agate
#

I mean yeah but this is definitely the worst next to ogryn boxes tanking your frames to like ten even on a series x

#

They need to make it so you can toggle fast throw

placid fiber
spare dome
hushed agate
spare dome
#

i hear people complain about her being hard to read

#

but uh

maiden path
spare dome
#

i mean its pretty simple. if her gun is facing you, you're in the wrong place

hushed agate
#

And they like driving them

hushed agate
#

They are surprisingly intelligent

hushed agate
placid fiber
#

I mean yeah, rats are pretty intelligent mfs

#

They'd put your average darktide rando to shame, by a long shot lol

north sedge
north sedge
#

Yes

placid fiber
#

Thought so

hushed agate
#

Wait hades 2 is out?

placid fiber
#

yeah

hushed agate
#

Since when

placid fiber
#

early access

north sedge
#

Early access

placid fiber
#

Um like... uh

#

a week ago?

north sedge
#

This week

placid fiber
#

a few days at least lol

north sedge
#

Err yea last week, Monday i think

placid fiber
#

so literally 6 days ago

spare dome
placid fiber
#

I'm watching 2 people's playthroughs of it, right now, myself

spare dome
#

and ya its been out

steel agate
#

I played hades 1 and I can say just from that game Iโ€™d recommend the 2nd one before and after early access thumbsup_ogryn

hushed agate
#

I still havent gotten to even playing the first one i need to hurry upGuarded

steel agate
#

Supergiant have cooked before and theyโ€™re gonna cook again

placid fiber
#

I've watched a tiny amount and I can say I would recommend the 2nd hades without having seen much of the 1st one

#

and it's even a bit outside of my type of game, due to having to avoid so many projectiles

#

Granted Gungeon is too... so I may give Hades a try sometime

steel agate
#

I reccomend the 1st hades pretty fun to mess around with builds

#

Hell i reccomend the 2nd one too even tho it ainโ€™t even done yet KEKW_ogryn

spare dome
#

there's not much bullet hell tbh

placid fiber
#

The bullet hell genre is more of a miss for me

spare dome
#

a handful of enemies can do it but theyre very predictable

placid fiber
#

the rogue lite is a solid hit, tho

hushed agate
#

Ill have to see if i have the money to buy it. Gonna have to dust off my isaac skills

placid fiber
#

Gungeon being playable for me shows me that all the bullet hell in Hades is doable lol

north sedge
#

Definitely not even close to being bullet hell

spare dome
#

so far imo its an upgrade to hades 1

#

hades 1 still kicks ass

placid fiber
north sedge
#

And there's powerups that just negate projectiles in both

spare dome
#

lul ye

placid fiber
#

like the sprinting to reflect projectiles

spare dome
#

i had the -40% projectile speed from hermes and also from medea one round

north sedge
#

I mean, it's just not that kind of game

spare dome
#

shit was slow motion

placid fiber
#

Like I said if I can play Enter the Gungeon at all... Hades 1 and 2 are by no means a stretch >.>

#

I just am not ready to try it out yet

steel agate
#

Take your time prepping to be ready, or donโ€™t I ainโ€™t your parent Smug

placid fiber
#

Good thing, I wouldn't listen

#

๐Ÿ˜‰

fleet zealot
blissful tendon
hushed knoll
north sedge
#

I'm more into casual fruit atm

drifting wolf
#

what about long term fruit

fleet zealot
hushed knoll
hushed knoll
hushed knoll
#

I hate all of you

desert bough
#

Oi!

fleet zealot
north sedge
#

So many sock jfhaces

hushed knoll
#

๐Ÿ˜’

#

Go to bedge Dough

desert bough
#

Like fruit

hushed knoll
#

OMG HI DORIS cPES_PoggersHeart

polar nexus
north sedge
#

Stan loves a good fruity suck suck

hushed knoll
#

It's about to be fruity suck suck time

hushed knoll
#

How dare you

fleet zealot
hushed knoll
#

sassily slips

#

slaps*

polar nexus
fleet zealot
hushed knoll
#

I meant slap

#

Slaps

fleet zealot
#

stan out here slippin

hushed knoll
hushed knoll
fleet zealot
#

nah you would, roll a nat one and slip when you meant to slap

#

like the 3 stooges

#

but it's the 3 stans

hushed knoll
#

I am a good Deed NY player

#

DND

drifting wolf
fleet zealot
#

good deed NY player

#

get me some bagels stan

hushed knoll
#

I had a bagel this morning

#

Aka bread ring yum yum time

desert bough
hushed knoll
#

Goliaths are sexy

fleet zealot
#

anyways, me and my bf did some ttrpg prep at the coffee shop, then we went and had birria tacos

#

from this food "truck" that's a renovated bus

desert bough
#

Awesome!

#

Wha happened next?

hushed knoll
#

What is a birria taco

fleet zealot
#

very good

#

i recomnend googling it

north sedge
#

And you dip it in the consomme it got cooked in

fleet zealot
#

i can't do it justice

hushed knoll
#

Are they soft tacos

#

I like soft tacos

#

Otherwise I just break the taco into bits and put them in a bowl

#

Or I put the taco in a bowl and mash it up with a fork

fleet zealot
#

noo stop

#

okay like i get it

north sedge
#

You wouldn't do this because you're supposed to dip it

fleet zealot
#

i had walkin tacos as a kid

#

but you don

#

do that to authentic tacos

hushed knoll
#

I hate when it goes all over my face and drips down my chin onto my shirt

#

Or half of it goes onto the plate

north sedge
#

How are you eating tacos

hushed knoll
#

It's just what happens

north sedge
#

How do you even do that

hushed knoll
#

Cuz you bit into it and the shell immediately breaks

hushed knoll
fleet zealot
north sedge
hushed knoll
#

What else are you supposed to do

fleet zealot
hushed knoll
#

Looks good but I would prob put it in a bowl and put the sauce over it and eat it with fork and knife

north sedge
#

The fuck

hushed knoll
#

Why

#

It makes perfect sense

hushed knoll
#

All flavor no mess

#

@lusty turtle I need support

fleet zealot
#

lil bro callin in help

north sedge
#

He's not going to support this

hushed knoll
#

Why did I ping you you won't agree

north sedge
#

Lol

lusty turtle
hushed knoll
#

The fuck

#

Go to bedge

#

The last time I had tacos I didn't even attempt to build one

#

I just put the tortilla in the bottom of a bowl

#

And pourd toppings over it

north sedge
#

Stan do you mash hot dogs into a bowl too

hushed knoll
#

And cut it

hushed knoll
fleet zealot
#

stan eats pizza with a knife and fork

north sedge
#

What about gyros

hushed knoll
#

I eat cold leftover hotdogs out of a gallon storage bag with my hands

fleet zealot
#

and not, oh i'm in italy that's how it served, he gets a little ceasars and asks for a fork and knife

hushed knoll
#

I do it anyway

north sedge
#

Stan doesn't do that but he does slather it in honey mustard

hushed knoll
#

IF the slice is big and the pizza is hot

placid fiber
#

Stan

north sedge
#

Oh nvm fully deranged

south folio
#

fork is good so that i don't grease my hands

hushed knoll
#

Hockey mustard and red pepper flakes are good on pizza

#

Honey

placid fiber
#

What are your thoughts on peanut butter and jelly pizza? @hushed knoll

fleet zealot
#

you don't have paper towel?

#

can't stick your fingers in your mouth?

south folio
#

i'd rather not have to clean in the first place

royal vortex
south folio
#

since anything greasy feels quite bad to me

hushed knoll
#

Don't tell me you dab your pizza with a napkin

#

Please don't

placid fiber
#

What?

royal vortex
#

i lick my pizza dry before consuming

fleet zealot
hushed knoll
#

Hi Arco

placid fiber
south folio
#

hi stan

hushed knoll
#

I'm not a bog wtf

hushed knoll
#

Dog

lusty turtle
#

i think i should mute stan for that one