zealot-class

[stable cypress]

Flamer blessings are Blaze Away and Doesn't Matter Until Overpressure Works

[fleet zealot]

So like gassed enemies and bulwarks

That good to test

[zinc talon]

the left click puff is already able to jostle anything not wearing plate aboout half the time

[fleet zealot]

Should be able to do it by spawning tox bombers

[ripe quest]

esp now that Flamer goes through Bulwark shields there might be some fun stuff w/ it

[zinc talon]

and I'm pretty sure left click will pop bursters some of the time

[potent rain]

I STG this rng crafting is bs

[fleet zealot]

Just thinking about gas and more stable crushers/bulwarks

[zinc talon]

but you have to committ to left puffing or actually killing it the regular way

[potent rain]

this is only a temporary placeholder so I can grind more dockets to lose at brunts armour and hadrons rng crafting

[fleet zealot]

Doubt it will be meaningful enough to warrant left clicking instead of just melting down

[zinc talon]

or get feisty with the alternate attack hit and dodging away using that

[fleet zealot]

With fury of the faithful

[zinc talon]

it's fun for sure

[potent rain]

what should i change for my current flamer?

[stable cypress]

yeah its fine tbh, just swap maniac for like carapace flak or unyielding

if you're running it with chastise you don't need maniac

[potent rain]

i do run chastise

[stable cypress]

and if you're not running it withc chastise thats an offense to the emperor

[zinc talon]

since we're talking about it, might as well replug my Git Lurndt on flamer cone fundamentals

[potent rain]

I really want the crafting rework

[zinc talon]

how to get more stacks using less fuel, a primer

[potent rain]

rng crafting is making me go crazy

[stable cypress]

fwiw 2nd blessing besides blaze away is just qol like reload on empty mag and funny garbage like the one that makes elites explode

[spare talon]

yeah i didnt think id have much issue with transfering from community college to a uni
so it would more be a boon for jobs and such

[zinc talon]

those too

also research and experiment positions at those unis

[spare talon]

ngl
research sucks
like i could not stand doing that

[zinc talon]

attracting grants and studies

ikr you already searched once and you remember what it looked like

[potent rain]

so in a perferct world where overpreassure is not bugged the BIS blessings are overpreassure and blaze away?

[spare talon]

yes

[zinc talon]

watch those videos

blaze away encourages you to waste fuel

[potent rain]

ugh obeseshark fix ur fucking game

[zinc talon]

and pairs really well with speed reload whatever that's called

inspiring barrage is basically free instant toughness

[potent rain]

i only use the flamer when the team is getting badly preassured

[zinc talon]

fan the flames puts everything on its ass and suppresses a ton of ranged fire

so you can just Nope the whole room

the flamer sgot some real legs when it comes to role fulfilled

[potent rain]

so 2nd blessings can be flexible?

[stable cypress]

You don't need to get full blaze away stacks to kill trash like marksmen tho

[zinc talon]

you only need about 4ish stacks

and even then you get those faster wafting the cone across the enmies rather than holding it on em

[potent rain]

u anchor on overpreassure when its bugs get fixed right?

[stable cypress]

yeah

[spare talon]

and i certainly am looking for a new job that both isnt absolutely ass like the retail im in now, and allows me to still take courses for my degree

[zinc talon]

\

[spare talon]

cuz FUCK the job i have now

[stable cypress]

hopefully with crafting update

[maiden path]

where my tabasco fans at

[zinc talon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1184181321216565378/Warhammer_40000_Darktide_2023.11.19_-_08.59.32.26.mp4?ex=6640f8cc&is=663fa74c&hm=21dc59915289349bacdb02fe638a9654c0dee0a2928ff18b083cc0358a59854f&

[potent rain]

https://tenor.com/view/feel-like-a-sir-feel-like-a-lord-feel-like-sir-gif-22251304

[maiden path]

cant respect heihachi hair zealots anymore

[spare talon]

oh that ping was in the video you bastard

[zinc talon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1184184186530189472/Warhammer_40000_Darktide_2023.12.12_-_11.24.23.52.mp4?ex=6640fb77&is=663fa9f7&hm=e2a9f3a2be7b80da6b2462fdfe87e20eaba757e305ba6cc9d41bf8c88027f924&

[maiden path]

u either balding or u a pussy

[zinc talon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1184184947062341792/Warhammer_40000_Darktide_2023.12.12_-_11.27.38.53.mp4?ex=6640fc2c&is=663faaac&hm=6d4dd0eece75a59c7df6b2f0fb11fcf705ce1b5fb74dc1e7f33e31f62e450333&

[maiden path]

get that fucked up balding zealot look

[zinc talon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1184185491243933736/Warhammer_40000_Darktide_2023.12.12_-_11.29.13.55.mp4?ex=6640fcae&is=663fab2e&hm=5f493445297b6416c1649956d5bbedaa1ea9494240aa9e805baa3fa212b06e27&

[magic hornet]

are chainaxes still really bad?

[maiden path]

NO

[stable cypress]

no

[zinc talon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1184186307979792484/Warhammer_40000_Darktide_2023.12.12_-_11.32.00.56.mp4?ex=6640fd70&is=663fabf0&hm=6d6160c5630b2137eaa77dedf07c73502a3d7150a2a5509a3ab27dd0428959f0&

[maiden path]

someone make one of those tiktok ryan gosling edits but only of my fucked up ginger zealot

[spare talon]

but your zealot isnt literally me

[zinc talon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1184187663826300958/Warhammer_40000_Darktide_2023.12.12_-_11.38.00.59.mp4?ex=6640feb4&is=663fad34&hm=bd48a2eb9467e8903abf72cefc7830620c920575e993fa635428317463d71539&

oh thank christ those posted correctly

[maiden path]

give it 10 years

[zinc talon]

I was up the message history's entire ass finding and relinking

[maiden path]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BT_x2HbRhhs

[zinc talon]

why's that

[maiden path]

!

u a fake balder

u shave the middle of ur head

[zinc talon]

I mean hatchette has one

[maiden path]

heihachi zealots lookin in the mirror and going 'da hoes gonna fuck witht his...'

[zinc talon]

and is also balding cuz she carries her evis on her shoulder

and gets a little enthusiastic on the first swing

[maiden path]

who the fuck is hatchetta

[zinc talon]

takes the center of her hair right off

[spare talon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1070833524824875189/1199287137649045634/RDT_20240119_025724.mp4?ex=664136ef&is=663fe56f&hm=80b2c91130357211a894cd286a9697f66c407226c753dfc974942c87cf9690a0&

[zinc talon]

my zealot

[maiden path]

stupid ahh zealot..

[spare talon]

do not test me on this
i have too many of these

[zinc talon]

so anyway, big takeways on those videos

wafting the cone across enemies off and on makes the game apply a stack for each time you do it

and you can get that to be faster than if you held the cone steady on em

[zinc talon]

firing in circles adds up down to that mix

[rocky marsh]

harrow

[zinc talon]

so you can paint stacks super quick

[rocky marsh]

can someone teach me knife movement tech

[zinc talon]

also you can hold rmb and spam click left

and get more puffs off than the game takes ammo

so you're getting free fuel so to speak

[zinc talon]

one of those vids shows how many stacks each type needs to be dead and just not know it yet and how long that takes holding the cone on em

everything else, you will have to subscribe to my ogrifans for

[spare talon]

like how to go fast with it?

[zinc talon]

find out what I do with the other stubber barrel too

[spare talon]

https://tenor.com/view/dr-house-house-gif-11916099077674228393

[zinc talon]

anyways I'm off, remember that tomorrow is mother's day

so I'll be visiting yours

[spare talon]

how thoughtful

[rocky marsh]

ya

[zinc talon]

she gives all year, it's time for me to give back

[spare talon]

hold heavy attack while sprinting
youre welcome

[rocky marsh]

no i remember theres some tehc where you time it so that when heavy release upon standup you gain even more speed

[spare talon]

oh idk anything about that

[tropic pelican]

you release a heavy right as you slide

makes your slide go nyoom

and just spam that

[maiden path]

I NEED

VET

OUTCAST ENGINEER

HOTSHOT volley gun

also darktide needs this shit

i just want a median

[red mesa]

was it wrong for me to kite these ragers back as far as i did to the health pack away from my team?

i decided to kite them back to the hp pack when i saw the pack of gunners

didn't want to run back in the open against them

and figured i could heal to boot

wish i had more throwing knives i coulda nuked them with the pierce from the shotty but only had a couple

[ember yew]

i would just use agri8 and wipe the floor with them then use chastice as a space for reloading, as for this situation, i would actually run forward to the big open space

and then infinitely kite in circles there

not to go backwards since you'l be trapped

[red mesa]

ya but im using a fun knife crit and infinite cleave throwing knife build so, lol

not chastise agri lol

also my goal since low was to funnel them in a line for potential throwing knife line up

and to not be surrounded

but i did plan to kite in circle back to team

once i saw the gunners tho i decided to keep going to hp pack

bc team had downs etc i thought i could handle rager swarm, but if i brought to them might wipe us too

we did live

[ember yew]

your kit wasn't good for that situation, can't be helped, either you'l need a fire grenade or do what i intended to do (braced agri8 spray and kite)

so it is what it is

another day in darktide

[tropic pelican]

there was a barrel at the start you could use to tag the ragers, and another barrel at the top of the stairs would've killed them or brought them very low

ragers also can't hit you when you side dodge them anymore so you can heavy them in the head pretty safely

[rocky marsh]

on the start of the slide?

[tropic pelican]

yeah

[south folio]

seems fine
it is pretty spooky to fight a rager horde at 1 wound and barely any hp remaining xd

[tropic pelican]

i probably also would've just spammed normal shotgun shots at them

[undone pewter]

I think you did good, once you got to the medipack I would have circled back out of that area though personally. But obvious we can all look at something like that when we're not playing and judge. Good job not getting fucked in that corner btw

[misty nova]

I would've pinged at least one of them to let my team know what I'm dealing with, even if they can't help at the moment, but I guess that's more fancywork

[undone pewter]

"Witness me"

[south folio]

i'm a greedy mf so i would've stood my grround and burned through until death

[rocky marsh]

how do you mixed horde clear with cknife :v

you can't do PA because can't dodge

like how do you play cknife

the movement speed is great but it doesn't seem that useful if you are not speedrunnijng

[paper pine]

Chain heavy attacks onto heads

Your ranged weapon should be capable of horde clear

Unless you want to rely on incendiary

[quasi marsh]

Kite and pick then off

If you don't have your gun available for whatever reason

Sprinting h1 into push attack into dodge backwards is really low commitment

And if you aimed at head it should kill rager

[paper pine]

I played with a zealot on malestron yesterday and I want to find them

We were surviving against so much

But I had to leave

They were using stealth knife

That narrows it down

[quasi marsh]

Is the lawbringer regular shots bad or something

The kiting was good except cornering yourself but you managed

Though I'm just wondering why you didn't shoot regular shots when you had the chance during or between slides

[undone moat]

greetings zealotry friends!
I have but one penence left, and I imagine everyone could guess what it is.
Flesh wound.
I am told finding a good group and doing the twins is the best way to do this last pain?

[fossil crag]

@jellypost345 for me its heavy + push attack repest on anything on mk6 cknife, if i see any carapace i spam push attacks, if im out of stamina heavy punch heavy usually does the trick in killing crushers if i crit twice if not i just need to push attack afterwards

[rocky marsh]

im using mk3

[misty nova]

Those Dance of Death special shot

Probably trying to bank on that

[quasi marsh]

I'm talking moment where there was no time or he didn't special shot

Like 0:37

Or imo there was times to weave in a few shots during the stim, like right before picking up plasteel

Maybe I'm just nitpicking though, was just curious

[quasi marsh]

It's the same principle on mk3

Push atk does very fast dmg

[fossil crag]

Spam push attack should do the work

[quasi marsh]

sprint heavy -> push attack -> dodge back out

if its crusher 2x push attack

the push itself should stagger the horde anyway

you just need an opening where you know the attacks wont get caught on some trash mob

[fossil crag]

Kinda funny how thay push attack does cleave on mk 3 all be it slightly less single target 😂

[rocky marsh]

im supposed to dodge back on cknife?

[quasi marsh]

in the situation you're asking (mixed horde, probably multiple rager/crusher/etc) yes

the goal is just to pick them off one by one while kiting

[rocky marsh]

too caxe pilled

[zinc talon]

cocks pill, whate

[rocky marsh]

i do not understand those words okri

[zinc talon]

you just said them

naw brudder he frenly him naym bobbeh

gi'm lil skritchum underchin

^what I do in my computer chair when I get chased down for the fifth time in a row by an instagib flamethrower hulk

tiny lil temper tantrum

[zinc talon]

oh, cacks, you're from boston

[rocky marsh]

boston?

[zinc talon]

lol I'm making a poor joke at saying what you typed out loud and changing the words in the process

caxe pilled to cocks pill

they sound about the same said out loud

something something penis joke

[inner vigil]

truly, the most elaborate penis joke is a one that has to be explained...

[zinc talon]

what I wanted, small chuckle play on words

what I got, grammar school lessons

I believe the kings of comedy call this 'bombing'

[inner vigil]

well, at least you didn't speak incomprehensible gibberish (looking at you, younger generations who use words like "rizz" as if everyone knows what they mean)

the funny part about me not keeping up with such terminology is that I turn 18 this year, and yet I struggle to understand the meanings of many internet language concepts that came after the word "drip" began its existence on the internet...

[harsh kindle]

Ngl playing zealot is probably the most mentally exhausting out of all 4 classes

Then again, i play shroudfield knife zealot

[inner vigil]

I was about to say that maybe its because you use knife, shroudfield or both, but you beat me to it

[fossil crag]

Most fun class, you get ult like every 5 seconds when horde is up

[harsh kindle]

Yeah it's fun

It's real fun to pull backstabs while not even done with the maneuver of going behind the guy

[fossil crag]

Either with shroud or chastise the wicked, but overall from my experience chastise does more dmg 👀

[harsh kindle]

Though i've had funny moments like a vet VoC'ing my backstab target behind me

So i just have to awkwardly shimmy around to stab the guy

[inner vigil]

fun is subjective though, I for example find psyker fun (mostly because I am so used to playing psyker, and mine already has good gear), and grinding good gear for a character I don't play as much (like zealot) is very painfully slow...

[harsh kindle]

Oh yeah, Psyker's great

^ Psyker main since tech test beta

[rocky marsh]

i think zealot is the most engaging class yeah

[inner vigil]

I played psyker since launch day

[south folio]

melee is really brainless to me and zealot has a bunch of survivability talents so zealot is the brainless one for me

[fossil crag]

https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxWOXw7CWlUYpGxJ-qbgAtozTViC_u3uR8?si=uDjwDIudR-65LS5y why i love zealot

[lean lark]

psyker is the most fun due to the tools you have and get

[harsh kindle]

From one venerable elder to another, i tip my hat

[rocky marsh]

have you ever played a suboptimal build that requires you to sweat
i only had that on zealot

[lean lark]

you need to know when and where to use them

unless you're one of those inbred smite spammers. those guys deserve the death chair.

[rocky marsh]

i was doing martyr stealth backstab CDR

[zinc talon]

heh me too, I'm 18 with a lil extra practice

https://tenor.com/view/savingprivateryan-ww2-old-soldier-matt-damon-gif-4203998

[harsh kindle]

Smite spammers are absolutely braindead.

I saw a guy smiting a single poxwalker to death at some point.

And another point where bro had to clutch and he was spamming smite on a beast of nurgle.

[south folio]

not particularly cuz i always run meta stuff

[harsh kindle]

And funnily enough, they always run the fucking Deimos but never actually use it

[south folio]

i just think that melee is really good especially because it has such low mechanical requirements

not much to aim

melee combos of most melee weapons don't have much memorization or thought behind them

be somebody who has their dodge and jump key separate, spam dodge, and call it a day

[harsh kindle]

Deimos, Obscurus force swords and the old Eviscerator hogged all the complex combos

[south folio]

at least deimos is just press m1, hold m1, press m1, hold m1
gimme some good offensive push-attacks

[zinc talon]

the Warphanage takes in another lost soul

[harsh kindle]

The axes hogged all of those

[south folio]

crusher is nice for that fact because its push-attack is something you do want to throw out a bunch, in addition to the rest of the combos it has

[harsh kindle]

BRO

i am in karking tears

[south folio]

and pswords make me so sad because i really like their push-attacks and having to use the normals

but the specials are just too good for me to avoid using them

[harsh kindle]

Ngl i've just started doing the weird timing thing

Where i push and then just regular attack

[zinc talon]

tempting

[south folio]

this is a pre-patch 13 clip that i distinctly remember https://streamable.com/vdnqtb

i had no space to activate the special and damn it felt good to just throw out normal attacks

[harsh kindle]

Anyway, man i'm really hoping we get new force weapons for Psyker soon-ish

[zinc talon]

lil brudder needs a fucking bonk

[south folio]

psyker taking Ls with their weapon variety

[harsh kindle]

It's really annoying how Vet and Ogryn got cool shovels, Zealot got a pog eviscerator and Psyker?

Psyker just got the all-class stuff

Because fuck us i guess

[lean lark]

i dont want mark number 6 gorillion shovel

[south folio]

2h force sword 2h force sword bolt staff bolt staff beam staff beam staff

[lean lark]

i want a new weapon

[zinc talon]

the shovel is not cool, it is a vector for disease

go wash your hands

[lean lark]

not just a remodel with a slightly different moveset

[harsh kindle]

I would do terrible things for a force greatsword

[zinc talon]

fourty t housand years in the future, with chainsaw swords and plasma guns and hovertank and

[harsh kindle]

Hell, i'm also down for melee Force Staff

Since Psyker doesn't have any blunt options

[zinc talon]

the most powerful weapon on offer for ogryn is a flimsy ass world war two poop shovel

it infuriates me

it ages me more quickly

[harsh kindle]

To be fair it's not the shovel that's dangerous, it's the tiny ass spike with the weight of the shovel head and the comically strong arm of the Ogryn bringing it down on your skull that's dangerous

Still though, it's really annoying how the funny space mage class has like 6 funny space mage weapons

7 if you really want to stretch the definition

[south folio]

hnhnghnghnghghn

[zinc talon]

and not a single one of them blunt and/or able to jostle with its stagger

[south folio]

the magic class is also a good basis for whacky cool stuff but we don't get any

not even variants of each force staff

[harsh kindle]

Force Bo Staff would go hard

[south folio]

it does seem like they have trouble reconciling with the 3-mark system and the psyker force staffs

[harsh kindle]

Force Stave i think it's actual name is

[zinc talon]

if they make me an activatable crozius in the spirit of the crusher I'd mage tank full time

staves are plural, staff is singular

the test is on thursday ytou might want to write that down

[harsh kindle]

Lmao

Anyway, speaking of, how would you guys want the force greatsword activation to work?

Deimos Style single target, Illisi Style "fuck everything in front of me" or something else?

[south folio]

a continuous activation that is balanced around peril

illisi style

i HATE the chainsword-like special

gimme that psword shit

[harsh kindle]

Also fucking annoying how PS got the QoL treatment and not the Illisi

[south folio]

force sword activations already have peril as a balancing mechanic that they can use so it sucks that the illisi has to be like the psword and continuously reactivate after each hit

[harsh kindle]

Yeah

[south folio]

and offensive push-attacks to top it all off
gimme that 2h

the 1h force sword push-attack is nice and all but i want something i can regularly mix into my normal combos for damage

[harsh kindle]

Ngl it would be cool if activations for Force weapons went kinda like
Greatsword: Frenzy (Activate to go into mini-Scrier's basically, increased attack speed and cleave until you turn it off or overperil)
Force Staff: Big Poke (Massive stagger attack. Maybe do massive damage on weakpoint hits?)
Force Axe: Vertical Cleave (Massively increased damage, but it gives you a folding shovel style overhead)
Force Hammer?: Slam (Slam the hammer down, big AoE stagger, big peril)

Imagine just splitting a crusher down the middle

[south folio]

hell yeah

[lean lark]

if they change the illisi to not be activation and instead a toggle (like scriers gaze) it'd be a lot better and more unique

[zinc talon]

this is the most off putting part of any activation weapon

and my biggest have to ignore it intentionally on the crusher

that and combo chain reset when the ironhelm gets a pass

why

[harsh kindle]

Also

[south folio]

at least on crusher it isn't a sticky attack and is not intended to be spammed so i'm fine with how it is

[zinc talon]

it works out well enough

[harsh kindle]

Force Dagger: Inject (Stab a guy which causes a delayed Brain-Burst style explosion-Unlike the Deimos and Obscurus, the animation itself doesn't lock you in place)

[south folio]

but stuff like chainswords/evises just feel bad because you already have to spend time being stuck in an enemy

[zinc talon]

but chainswords losing their attack spot

chainswords revs should be push and hold

and releasing stops the rev

and deals damage proportionat eto how far through the full saw you got

[harsh kindle]

I always thought the Force Sword would work kinda like it's always a guaranteed kill, but the more HP the guy has the longer you need to stay there

[zinc talon]

hammers and the crusher should be push and hold, and they discharge how they do

[south folio]

yeah and the force swords also deal most of their damage on the last tick

[royal vortex]

in general i think you could probably convert most weapons to "use special button to activate the special attack directly" instead of charging it up the way you do rn and it would feel better

[zinc talon]

and the damage dealt is proportionate to how long you held for

and for god's sakes, put something in to stop spam activation

[south folio]

so it's not like the chainsword where it deals quite some damage on the ticks and you might be able to prematurely kill enemies

[zinc talon]

like a simple charge mechanic

[royal vortex]

weapons also suffer from activations completely ruining chaining orders which heavily restricts what an activation weapon can even do without highly annoying gameplay

[zinc talon]

personally I'd like to see a gas can on the chain weapons and more revving drains it faster

[harsh kindle]

Man just imagine a force staff melee that's just pure stagger and you do the poke on a rager

BAM, gone across the fucking room

[zinc talon]

and what you get is what you get for the mission

[harsh kindle]

Actually, maybe Ammo pickups replenish it?

Considering the Flamer gets ammo

[zinc talon]

every activation on a power bonk makes the charge back to full slightly slower

something to make you ration them

while still giving air in the room to the boss delete crucis and room ragdoll crusher

the paul gets a pass here until it is finally an adult and gets to sit at the table with the rest of em

paul has to wear a helmet when he goes outside for his own safety

[harsh kindle]

paul?

[zinc talon]

the power maul

[harsh kindle]

yeah kinda guessed but never heard it referred to as paul lmao

[zinc talon]

it's an og chat abbreviation because most of them can't read

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-why-waste-time-few-word-gif-8100952

[quasi marsh]

the worst thing about force swords

is realizing most of them never fucking use the magic attack

[south folio]

hngnghnghnggg

[stable cypress]

Oh no their bone 'ead implant is on the fritz

[zinc talon]

M-PLANT BUZZIN

GITN ONNADEM HEDAKES WIT PITCHURS

WOTS TH'WORD...OH, IDEAS

[drowsy steppe]

mmhmggmghgh

[hushed knoll]

QUICK ACT FAST

FACE: IS IT DROOPING

ARMS: CAN BOTH BE RAISED

SPEECH: IS IT SLURRED

TIME: ACT QUICKLY

[frosty herald]

i see stan got his lessons on how to identify a stroke

[nimble fiber]

[inner vigil]

btw, which of these following talents would be good on a Martyr crusher build if I also run Fury of The Faithful and Immolation nades(I can only afford two of them):

• I Shall Not Fall (TDR Martyr augment)
• Maniac (AS Martyr augment)
• Grievous Wounds
• Punishment

[rocky marsh]

on flamer is overpressure or blaze away the one that is bricked?

[inner vigil]

based on what I remember someone else having said here, I think its overpressure...

[rocky marsh]

thanks

[hushed knoll]

ASRAVAL HI WHADYA TALKIN ABEET

[lean lark]

overpressure

just use quickflame blaze away

best offensive blessing setup as of now

[nimble fiber]

hello there stan, how u doin?
have u finally watched the big lez show

[inner vigil]

idk if you guys didn't answer this because you dunno the answer, or if you didn't see it, but I am going to have to ping my question just in case...

[rocky marsh]

i think better to post build and circle which one you considering

[inner vigil]

fair point, lemme do that

[hushed knoll]

No

[inner vigil]

ok, its the ones I have circled with green (idk which to consider...)

[hushed knoll]

The bottom shape looks like a dick

Be careful

[nimble fiber]

u make me sad

[fossil crag]

by the way whats the combo for the crusher weapon 👀

[hushed knoll]

Nooooooo

[inner vigil]

depends.

push attack > light > heavy for single target

I myself use push attack > heavy > light > loop heavy and light for hordes

[austere grail]

I think duellist is always a must take

[inner vigil]

also, after reading some of the other talent nodes, I have made an updated consideration graph.

[inner vigil]

what about desperation?

[fossil crag]

btw are you playing by any chance 👀

im cashing in this agreement 🤣

[north sedge]

get rid of martyrs purpose, it is dookie

[inner vigil]

ok, and what about the two points I am left with after taking off Martyrs Purpose and getting Duellist?

[north sedge]

Sustained assault

Or the upgrade nodes for marty if you don't have

[ornate bone]

Why did I open this fucking website again

[royal vortex]

impact talents are never worth taking for crusher

you don't get any relevant stagger bps from them

[ornate bone]

It's like veteran players have a professional whining license sometimes

hurr durr my tree is bad, I can only fit half a trillion sources of rending, corruption healing, infinite grenades, free damage reduction, the best overshield in the game and finesse bonuses

[royal vortex]

veteran's tree at the very least has distinct playstyles that aren't just different ways to get the same damage buff

[oak ermine]

I personally dislike Zealot's tree the most I think

[north sedge]

Vets never recovered from the day that psword died

[royal vortex]

psyker doesn't have a tree u get a small plant that hasnt been watered in weeks

[north sedge]

🤔

[oak ermine]

And I like Vet's the most

[frosty herald]

i agree

the tree is very bloated

[ornate bone]

I think people are just annoyed they don't have the infinite immortal autopistol build anymore

Veteran is one of the most interesting trees to me because I'm not shoehorned into melee or have whatever weirdness psyker has

And because it has cool shit on the keystones, the abilities and the grenades

[slate void]

Wait wdym the psword is dead

[ornate bone]

It being the last one to be changed (unless they did another rework while I was away), it's fitting that it's the most "complete" of the bunch

[cyan steppe]

Tbh most ppl seem to play psyker for assail only

[ornate bone]

Psyker is honestly a pest sometimes

If it's not assail spam, it's smite spam

I sometimes miss purgatus spammers, but they seem to have died out after the EP smite + shriek combo

Then they fold like an used napkin and curse psyker for being squishy or something

[leaden pebble]

i run into a lot of smite spam without EP or shriek on heresy and under
they tend to do very little lmao

[ornate bone]

I laugh at the people who infinitely backpedal the moment a poxwalker gets within audible conversation distance because it's better than weeping and wondering where it all went wrong

[leaden pebble]

i dont consider myself amazing at this game but part of me wants to go to damnation to see if people know how to play the game lmao

[slate void]

I know that if I try to shove it, someone is gonna immediately shoot it the moment I'm in the blast radius and sent me over a railing

[leaden pebble]

that’s just the worst lmao

[north sedge]

What you never heard about how it got ruined forever and peole review bombed the game into oblivion over this horrible crime (it absolutely needed a nerf lol)

[slate void]

Starting to see the overlap between this game and Helldivers

[north sedge]

That's just gamers, they're a whiney bunch of karens

[ornate bone]

Oh yeah, that one review that was like "grrr power sword nerf, now I can't do 182 swings before hitting the special action button again grrr angry emoji repeated 3 times"

[leaden pebble]

helldivers balance is a whole nother beast

[leaden pebble]

even the ceo said it felt bad lmao
the guy in charge of the balance is an asshat who ruined another game and bailed on the studio

but anyway
psword still good right? just getting into veteran and it looks cool as hell

[slate void]

Oh ik, I was joking

[north sedge]

My hot take is that hd2 balance is mostly fine and they're at least not terrified to nerf shit like fatshark is now

[slate void]

I've been enjoying the psword

[north sedge]

Psword is still good, it was never bad people just cried

[slate void]

Iirc it's still considered a top meta pick

[ornate bone]

Tbh I'd rather have shit being on the weaker side than on the stronger one

[leaden pebble]

“high caliber assault rifle”

same damage as liberator
same pen
10 less bullets
40 less rof
???????

[ornate bone]

If your gear is underperforming on the hardest difficulty, you can still knock it down a notch to get a more friendly TTK

But if you're overperforming on the highest difficulty, where do you go? You can't increase it, it's the highest

[north sedge]

"Mostly fine"

[frank night]

it's hard to tell what's a balance complaint and what's the result of someone getting into videogaming instead of religious extremism

when the POSTS are written like THIS with RANDOM capitalised WORDS

[slate void]

I'm saving this

[frosty herald]

Rip the crossbow

[leaden pebble]

when the guy was asked about his reasons for some of the changes he went like “cause i felt like it”
guy has his head up his own ass lmao
he did the same shit for hello neighbor 2, made a bunch of changes nobody wanted, went against what the community asked for, then bailed on the studio right before release

[frosty herald]

You will be missed

[frank night]

i see you too have read the reddit posts

I have resentment against them for trying to make me learn what Hello Neighbor is

and spelling it without a u

[leaden pebble]

american english moment

[slate void]

Balance notes:

[royal vortex]

huello neighbor

[frank night]

I will put Josho in a microwave

[royal vortex]

please do not give me the death of a hamster

[frosty herald]

Hopefully pilestedt reigns the team in a bit

[leaden pebble]

i trust pilestedt

[frosty herald]

And he indirectly called out the illuminate coming in the near future

[frank night]

he seems okay but he is also a CEO which puts him at -50 trust

[leaden pebble]

but i have been taking a break cause the crossbow nerf and new warbond are kind of a joke lmao

[royal vortex]

i told my mom one time about all the funny ways ive heard of hamsters dying and she asked me if i was a serial killer and i havent given anyone the hamster death routine since

[frank night]

you picked the dark urge dialogue option

[north sedge]

Tbh i just don't really care, helldivers fun hang with friends

[royal vortex]

theres like a fucking ancient forums post that has a bunch of hamster death stories

its so good

i was reminded of this because i saw a video

[frosty herald]

this is absolutely wild in context and without

[royal vortex]

its filmed from inside a bathroom

door opens

kid has a gun

kid throws hamster on the floor

smiling, very excited

and fucking EXECUTES the hamster and it goes FLYING into the lap of the dude recording it

[north sedge]

Did the hamster steal a cigarette or something

[frank night]

I'm kinda stuck between knowing that the Gamers™ have a point because it seems like the balance guy is nerfing purely off usage rate data, but the Gamers™ are also so insufferable I want to paint them with clown makeup

[royal vortex]

and this child is just absolutely dismayed

like his mouth is wide open

horrified at what has just occurred

[leaden pebble]

it’s less fun when the balance constantly changes and one day your favorite weapon can just be nerfed for being “good” or “hey people are using this, let’s nerf it!”
not even overtuned, nah it was just better than “barely usable”

[fossil crag]

i feel like vet tree is just rush to the final nodes area for maximum profit

[royal vortex]

i dont think it can ever get more american than that

[ornate bone]

You won't BELIEVE what happens NEXT

[frank night]

you will also go in the microwave steling

with an r

sterling

[royal vortex]

sreling

[frosty herald]

We need the gep gun in helldivers 2

[royal vortex]

the main thing i have a problem with is when they give you the reason for a nerf and then the nerf does not actually line up with the reasoning

like the slugger

[frank night]

im kinda also a lil baffled at like how much balancing is going on with HD2

[leaden pebble]

even the ceo has stated “every time we add something fun it feels like we take something fun away”

[frank night]

it's a fkn party game mein kerl

why is it going through constant iterations on items

[visual stream]

Reminds me of a post I saw where someone microwaved a hampster as a kid

It exploded

[royal vortex]

oh to finish the child story

[frosty herald]

The crossbow nerf was very undeserved

[frank night]

like the railgun nerf was needed but the rest

[north sedge]

No it is serious business how dare you

[royal vortex]

the kid thought if he loaded a blank the hamster would not be harmed

[frank night]

to be fair to the hamster

[royal vortex]

the hamster evidently was very harmed

[north sedge]

Eruptor needed it bad

[frank night]

he might have saved the life of a human being

if that lil dumbass

[visual stream]

Most gun-informed American

[frank night]

thought blanks are just magic pop caps

[royal vortex]

he wouldve been the next alec baldwin

[leaden pebble]

it got gutted

[royal vortex]

oh my GOD i forgot fortunate son is playing in this video

[north sedge]

Eh its fine on bots, doesn't feel great on bugs though

[frank night]

uh oh

[royal vortex]

its so fucking funny mittins

i promise

[north sedge]

But release eruptor was deeply stupid

[frosty herald]

Bros sending a cartel execution of a hamster

[frank night]

are you SURE you're not a serial killer

[royal vortex]

sorry its a guinea pig

DUDE

WATCH IT

[visual stream]

bro told his mom about the hampsters

[frank night]

am i going to be called as a witness in your trial

[royal vortex]

no

for i am not a hamster murderer

[frank night]

true you do have more of a victim vibe

rather than a perpetrator vibe

[frosty herald]

LMAO

[royal vortex]

go watch the video and think about what u just said

that is rude

[austere grail]

Thats a funny video

[royal vortex]

i havent captured 1/4th of the energy of the video

[austere grail]

Was it really just the gasses from the barrel

[royal vortex]

whatever it was it created a very dead hamster

[austere grail]

Through the kid shot it with like a 22 by accident

[frank night]

that video is just what you do to mankar with bursters

[royal vortex]

hahahahaha

[rocky marsh]

wait i don't get why i should PA on elites/specials for cknife 3
the heavy does more damage and clears breakpoints

[royal vortex]

i love how the dude filiming it also did not expect the guinea pig to experience a sudden and violent death

[frosty herald]

joshos going to be sending livleak chinese factory accidents in a couple of weeks

[royal vortex]

there is a reason i do not do that

i cannot explain here or anywhere really

[frank night]

the chinese put animated versions of the life leaks into safety videos we don't need the actual clips any more

*live leaks

[royal vortex]

troo

[frosty herald]

this implies that you would

[royal vortex]

speed really

[visual stream]

I've seen these every now and then

[frank night]

watch an animated mechanic plummet six stories off a gantry

[frosty herald]

btw

[frank night]

wonder where they got THAT idea from

[royal vortex]

delta p

[frosty herald]

every single one of those animations is from an irl incident

[visual stream]

The one where the guy gets stuck in a rotating doohickey and just spins in an O shape

[rocky marsh]

the ttk is faster across the board?

[visual stream]

Sounds about right

[frank night]

if I hadnt already prophesised your death I'd put you down for delta p

[royal vortex]

i mean u get more successive attacks off quickly, for stuff like ragers/bosses it can be useful

push attack into special staggers ragers

[spare dome]

josho gonna get crushed by that delta d instead

[frank night]

my prediction is one day he's gonna get stopped by the cops

[royal vortex]

imagine what you couldve done with the time saved in the world where you did not type that

[frank night]

and they'll ask him if he's armed

and he'll awkwardly go

[spare dome]

idk smoked more i guess

[frank night]

'y-yeah?' while trying to show them his arms

and he'll get shot 36 times

[rocky marsh]

i see, the PA much much harder to land though, esp against crushers

i dink cruhsers do much the PA

[royal vortex]

life would be way funnier if i had that kind of autism

[frank night]

i have faith

[royal vortex]

unfortunately i am white and immune to police brutality

[frank night]

idk that doesn't seem to be 100% effective any more

[royal vortex]

you don't get the same windup as the heavy so you just do it when you're moving forwards during a fight instead of backwards

[rocky marsh]

yeah i never move backwards (thats why i die so much on cknife i guess )

[visual stream]

Just don't be protesting for a good cause and you're safe

[royal vortex]

i mean u just find the rhythm

[leaden pebble]

i was born on white man difficulty but i unfortunately got the random mutator gender dysphoria

[frank night]

do not be handcuffed in the back of a car when an acorn falls on the car

[rocky marsh]

i dodge crusher OH, his head moves slightly, PA dinks

[royal vortex]

SHOTS FIRED

[frank night]

Massive enemy presence

[royal vortex]

the thing is with basically any build you should have a fair bit of attack speed so missing doesn't really matter in the long run

that's the nice thing about knife on zealot

[visual stream]

Pick up the bible verse on dashboard buff

[austere grail]

I just heavy attack crushers

[quasi marsh]

push attack is hte highest dps

[royal vortex]

the attack speed is so consistently like 25-35% higher u can get away with w/e

i try knife on psyker and i just want to die

[quasi marsh]

this might sound like old person yelling at clouds tier

but

sometimes i miss the old days

[rocky marsh]

but cknife doesn't stagger crusher on heavy, and the dodge recovery is very long.
thbats what im complaining about mainly, not sure if you were reading psyker chat

[quasi marsh]

when you just had to live with shitty balance and make the best of it

[royal vortex]

crushers are like the least relevant enemy to stagger anyways

theyre one of the most predictable

[quasi marsh]

you dont need to stagger them

honestly?

in a straight fight

[royal vortex]

if you're getting overheaded by crushers on knife u have a very clear problem u can solve by getting better

[quasi marsh]

you h sould delete them before they can even do their OH

and even if they are going to actually do it

[rocky marsh]

stagger crusher mean i can 1vx them more easily because i don't have as much overlapped OH timings to worry aboutr

[quasi marsh]

you have like 1 gorillion mobility

just walk to the side and then delete them in 1 sec

[quasi marsh]

are you saying like

you walk into an overhead of another crusher

[frank night]

tfw the game launches with a critical bug and it just has to be part of the game

[quasi marsh]

while you fight a different crusher

[quasi marsh]

yeah like combos in fg

[rocky marsh]

when crushers side by side yeah

[quasi marsh]

idk stuff like mvc2 is funny because its absurd

[quasi marsh]

this is just a matter of being able to identify actual openings

that or you are overcommitting

you shouldnt be walking into crusher OH

and genuinely

the ttk is like 1 second

they shouldnt be able to wind up and finish you off before you kill 1 and dodge out

[leaden pebble]

well it’s like
player to dev communication and consistent updates are possible now
so you should criticize where you feel needs improvement
that’s kinda how consumers don’t get fucked over

[austere grail]

I saw a video of a guy chaining the special punch with heavies? Is that a real combo or was he messing around

[quasi marsh]

like

this is vet

but

iut should be even easier on zel

[royal vortex]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVH_2wI7dpg @rocky marsh i can't see your gameplay but if you're interested at all in how i play knife this duo is the best footage ive uploaded so far

[quasi marsh]

it is unironically a 1 sec ttk

you shouldnt be exposed long enough to get killed

[rocky marsh]

as in sometime multiple swing at staggered timing meaning if you dodge the other one catches you
Also the ttk doesn't feel like 1 second

[quasi marsh]

by a crusher oh

[royal vortex]

just don't take anything from the beast of nurgle section that was one of my worst bossfights ever

chastise in general makes everything easier

[quasi marsh]

i mean then just dont go in if its like that

thats what i mean by identify openings

[quasi marsh]

its alright

on mk3

it does slightly

[royal vortex]

realistically you have to be able to weave in and out

[quasi marsh]

SLIGHTLY

higher dps than heavy spam

if you cancel it well

[rocky marsh]

how come you kill so fast

[austere grail]

I see

[royal vortex]

the heavies have short reach but you get huge forward momentum and the dodges are massive

[austere grail]

Thanks

[quasi marsh]

on mk6

dont bother

you cant cancel punch sp.heavy into another punch

[austere grail]

Yeah i tried lol

[rocky marsh]

was that what you were doing

[quasi marsh]

no cause i dont play mk3 anymore

but i used to do it whenever i was out o fstam

for push atk

[rocky marsh]

do you know when you were killing crushers

[quasi marsh]

as for how you kill them so fast

idk

that's pretty normal

[rocky marsh]

i can't seem to kill under 1 second

[quasi marsh]

at least for vet, idk

[rocky marsh]

uh, what move were you doing

[austere grail]

In that video is that push atk into light spam?

[quasi marsh]

that video is heavy -> PA -> PA

3 tap

[austere grail]

Damn

[royal vortex]

this is from almost a month ago so i dont remember exactly but the mid and end event p much always have melee elite waves

[austere grail]

On zealot

[quasi marsh]

there's no way

zealot cant do it

zel has more melee buffs

is why rashad is way easier to build for zealot than vet

[austere grail]

Thought vet had like pen buffs

I dont play vet

[quasi marsh]

there is rending but it doesnt matter because you shouldnt take rending for knife anyway

dont think its a very significant dmg increase

at least compared to everything else you need to get

[austere grail]

Yea

[north sedge]

Zealot gets straight melee dmg buffs and vet doesn't really

[austere grail]

Vet gets bleed on hit rightr

[quasi marsh]

yes but nobody takes that unless you get mercy killer

complete garbage otherwise

1 bleed stack is literally like 6 dmg ticks

[ornate bone]

I once found myself justifying laughing at an animal dying because it died in a cartoonish way

[austere grail]

I wanna use reliable mercy killer ;_;

On crit and theyre already dead

[ornate bone]

Use vet

[fleet zealot]

Throwing ferret

[leaden pebble]

this gives jerma with car crashes energy

[spare talon]

Stop telling people this
I need people to think that I'm actually good at the game and not solely relying on using overly strong abilities and builds

[quasi marsh]

chastise + bp = lul

[ornate bone]

https://tenor.com/view/plauge-be-upon-ye-gif-27019320

[austere grail]

I love using chastise crit cooldown as a constant crutch

Skipping melee mechanics by headbutting rager packs

[leaden pebble]

i like inexorable judgment

[ornate bone]

Zealot players when they didn't reach the optimal enemy density and chastise recharges in 3 swings instead of 2

https://tenor.com/view/sad-crying-upset-sorry-apologize-gif-3398567

[rocky marsh]

@quasi marsh

wait

no embed

[austere grail]

Zealot players when they switch operatives and arent getting saved by 3 invincibility talents 18 stun inmunities and 5 heals

[royal vortex]

malware

[rocky marsh]

no u

[jagged aspen]

https://tenor.com/view/jesus-ballin-mars-bars-gif-19910027

[ornate bone]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-side-eye-side-eye-look-gif-2172576260448763209

[royal vortex]

https://streamable.com/hfpwqr

its been a while since i posted this

[rocky marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-cat-gif-25783770

https://streamable.com/yreu9x

[quasi marsh]

500 dmg on a weakspot hit is weirdly low

[rocky marsh]

@quasi marsh

[quasi marsh]

what does your knife look like

[spare talon]

People on reddit whining about krak penance fucking turn into dust when they see this video

[royal vortex]

it got way funnier when i conscripted people to play the same melee maelstrom map with me like 4 times and we started pinning bruisers down and stuffing krak grenades in their shirt

[summer tree]

Krak penance is really easy

All you do is throw kraks into flak hordes

Takes no time at all

[spare talon]

Until the ogryn charges them and spreads em all out lmao

Happened to me more than once

[ornate bone]

How about I throw a krak through your window while you're sleeping huh huh hu huh huhHUH

[summer tree]

I don't see Ogryn all that often

[quasi marsh]

are you running BP or momentum, just out of curiosity

[rocky marsh]

piety

[summer tree]

It won't have the explosive radius to do anything

[quasi marsh]

i can 3 shot if i get 1 crit

on zel

trying it rn

which is pretty easy with bp

[rocky marsh]

which one is mid event again sorry

[frosty herald]

it will magnetize to your desk lamp

[summer tree]

Don't have one

Magnetizes to the .44 under my pillow from 60 feet away

[rocky marsh]

@quasi marsh

[summer tree]

Yeah idk how people struggle with it, you can decently reliably get 20-50 kills a game with Kraks

[quasi marsh]

its prolly cause your knife doesnt have cara ig

let me see

if you can do better with no cara on the knife

[rocky marsh]

should i have built cara instead?

[quasi marsh]

eh

so

i need 2 crits to 4 shot without cara

i dont think thats too unreasonable for a knife bp build though

if you can proc precog that will probably remove a hit

[rocky marsh]

i had 4 crits and still 4 shots

[quasi marsh]

with full uncanny its a 3 shot though

but i dont really count that ig

[spare talon]

Did you have uncalled fully stacked up tho?

[quasi marsh]

since you're asking from nothing stacked i assume

[spare talon]

I would consider it cuz uncanny realistically has near permanent uptime with knife anyway

In actual gameplay

Since you're literally never not hitting heads

[quasi marsh]

if you're like

barely off too

and you dont find precog reliable

you could awlays

run flesh tearer

[rocky marsh]

ya
i saw 897 like 4 times

i stacked piety to max too

[quasi marsh]

you could try flesh tearer

makes it easy to 3 shot with uncanny stack even without cara

the last one didn tneed to crit

but it did so w/e

[rocky marsh]

FT still needs 4, but i gues with 3 i can run away and he die

[quasi marsh]

FT is 3 hit and maybe 2 or 3 ticks of bleed if u crit twice

only 1 tick if you crit on all 3

you should p much always have fotf up

so that's at least 1 crit no matter what

i can get perm uptime on fotf with taxe 4, pretty sure knife can do it just fine

[tribal estuary]

whats the diff between MK 2 heavy eviscerator and the MK15

[fleet zealot]

Or riposte

[summer tree]

Attack patterns and damage

[rocky marsh]

@quasi marsh ft does feel good in psk though.

[quasi marsh]

3 hit and bleeds out after 3 tick with 2 crits only

[fleet zealot]

Mk2 is a bit more complex and has better crowd control, mk15 is easier and is great and chaining activated heavies

[summer tree]

You have mercy killer?

[quasi marsh]

ive been using FT mk6 a lot

no

lemme try it tho

you're guaranteed the first crit bc fotf anyway

so you'll have him bleeding

[fossil crag]

its better then mk 3 right since ive been always preaching this when i can

[quasi marsh]

i like mk6 a lot more, idk if others feel otherwise

[north sedge]

i hate both knives equally, im basically a saint 😔

[fossil crag]

i use to hate it until i saw how a vet streamer was using it to horde clear with heavy push attack repeat and im like i gotta try this on my zealot and it was amazing

[fleet zealot]

Both have their niche

[desert bough]

Wat purge mean?

[summer tree]

Imo vet knife is a little strong, being able to kill a crusher in roughly the same time frame as a Latrine shovel heavy attack is a bit much

[rocky marsh]

I get the PA since irs literally just a follow up from your shove but why heavy on horde clear

Or mk6

[quasi marsh]

PA actually has good cleave

if you can line them up

[summer tree]

The IRS did a follow up?

[quasi marsh]

well

"good" cleave

by knife standards

[desert bough]

Not true knives, ogryn have real knives

[summer tree]

Good and good enough can be the same

[rocky marsh]

Is the the referring to mk6 thats why he said heavy

[quasi marsh]

yeah

im talking about mk6

the stab

[fossil crag]

Its a sweep from left to right or right to left and can cleave, and by weaving that you conserve stamina

If you really want to not use any stamina for horde clear on mk6 you can just use heavy heavy light light

[quasi marsh]

ya

its that or loop heavy light after two heavies

PA has as much cleave as the horizontal sweeping heavies iirc

[austere grail]

I just spam lights on horde

[quasi marsh]

so if you can line them up or shake your camera around

to catch multiple

[austere grail]

Moar crit procs

[quasi marsh]

its legit

not that i do it much honestly

i just heavy heavy and then light heavy loop

its a nice follow up if you do have to push though

[fossil crag]

I aim heavy on feet on horde to get scourge

[austere grail]

Madman

[hard nexus]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/s/E05BAFqwLR

the comments are odd

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/s/ZnY97EJN8C

especially this one

[spare talon]

I was reading that

[hard nexus]

“as top player with the mostly ‘green circles’”

yeah right

[quasi marsh]

green circles? 🤔

[hard nexus]

vestigial terminology from vermintide

you’d get a green circle if you had the highest of a stat

[summer tree]

Circle chasing

[hard nexus]

so with the scoreboard mod, if you did the most damage, some will call that a green circle

[quasi marsh]

but

he doesnt use the scoreboard mod he says

[hard nexus]

i’d be willing to be most of the people in that comment section r heresy and malice players

[hard nexus]

shrug

no clue

[summer tree]

Then he's just shit posting

[hard nexus]

read the whole thing

it’s so weird

[quasi marsh]

the whole "rearguard has low damage" is bs anyway

[summer tree]

It's just a shitpost

[royal vortex]

do this in pubs

i dare u

[summer tree]

I don't knock down before rooms because I never go down

Not once

[spare talon]

The very bottom section is weird too
He's saying everything you need to know is in the meat grinder
Then immediately says the opposite

[spare talon]

WHAT

I DIDNT EVEN SEE THAT

Whyyy

[summer tree]

It, is, a, shit, post

He's shitposting

[clear knot]

what is that

[hard nexus]

when you post shit

no need to thank me

[spare talon]

Me when I shit

[lusty turtle]

where do you find these people

[hard nexus]

yeah i saw that n like, the only time ive ever seen someone do that was with martyrdom because they didn’t have holy rev up

n even then like

[spare talon]

Yeah I honestly don't believe this is a shitpost

[hard nexus]

why

[spare talon]

It feels to genuine

[hard nexus]

agreed

[spare talon]

This guy either plays on uprising or runs all wound curios

[royal vortex]

lmao

[spare talon]

I'm fucking dying

[frosty herald]

I wonder if those 800 downloads are serious

[quasi marsh]

the illiterate

[spare talon]

I'm one of those 800 cuz I wanted to see it in action lmak

[fossil crag]

you can aim your PA

[quasi marsh]

ya

i know

i did it in the other vid i posted

#zealot-class message

[fossil crag]

didnt see my bad

https://tenor.com/view/sad-pepe-gif-24668210

[frosty herald]

This is also a thing on duelist sword h2

[hard nexus]

LMFAO

[quasi marsh]

its a thing on everything really

screen dragging

i used to do it to cleave extra enemy on bromentum bayonet

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/sweaty-sweat-heat-hot-wipe-sweat-gif-17716050

[drowsy steppe]

lmao

[ripe bronze]

any tips on killing boss better as indignatus zealot?

it doesnt feel like it doing enough boss dmg

switching revolver for bolter maybe?

[spare talon]

Entire crusher guide in the pins

[fossil crag]

I did this once on my pysker, didnt help since the next room was pox exploaders horde and i went insta deadge

[ripe bronze]

no i meant i got every need perk for the indignatus crusher

but i need something that can del boss

i was thinking of switch to bolter so i can just dps it harder

[spare talon]

Crusher should be doing great headshot damage to it if you have Duelist

I don't think you really need a ranged weapon for bosses with it

[ripe bronze]

yea im just bad at dodging rip

[spare talon]

I use revolver with mine

[ripe bronze]

i see

[spare talon]

Well that's just something to get better at regardless what weapon you use

[ripe bronze]

yea

[summer tree]

Revolver is great with crusher imo

[spare talon]

Crusher just gets a lot of mileage out of duelist

[summer tree]

Special sniping is easy mid horde cc

[rocky marsh]

Cknife 3, if I run uncanny and precog is unarmoured and flak correc5

[ripe bronze]

i see thnx for this 1 tho i cant understand why sometimes it took a good chunk of boss health sometimes it doesnt

that probably why

[spare talon]

Yeah
Crusher is a finesse weapon despite appearances

So headshot damage is very big

[rocky marsh]

Cole wat your opinion

[spare talon]

Who knew smashing their heads in would hurt

[fossil crag]

@quasi marsh out of curiosity have you tried running disdain instead of fury faithful on mk 6 knife 👀

[spare talon]

I wouldn't know much about unarmored on the knives
Plus I don't have experience with precog either honestly

[quasi marsh]

im confused how disdain is competing with fotf

disdain as in

that shitty melee node right at the beginning of the tree, right?

[paper pine]

It just requires high cleave weapon isnt that bad

[quasi marsh]

let me rephrase

[fossil crag]

xD ye

[quasi marsh]

shitty on knife at least

i cant imagine its worth it

but idk

[rocky marsh]

Mr Japanese name

[quasi marsh]

it only procs every other hit too no>?

[spare talon]

And you say this instead of the ability?

[rocky marsh]

Unarmoured and flak correct?

[spare talon]

Huh??

[quasi marsh]

knives are flexible

you can take whatever

as long as its not absolute horseshit

[fossil crag]

sorry i miss named the skill i ment this node

[rocky marsh]

I see you take cara can 3 hit crusher very cool

[quasi marsh]

yeah

actually

if you take cara

you can 2 hit with FT lol

[spare talon]

If your fingers can handle it that would be better

[quasi marsh]

as long as both hits crit

[spare dome]

Attack Speed > Almost everything

[fleet zealot]

go for overheads and push attacks on the monsters head

image not relevant

[rocky marsh]

I'm thinking of running uncunny and lacerate and just lmb everything

[quasi marsh]

dont run lacerate

[rocky marsh]

Why. At least I get more consistent gunner bps

[quasi marsh]

because lacerate needs you to hit non-weakspots

on a weapon that needs to hit weakspots

you have crit out of the ass anyway, why would you not run FT with 2x as many bleed stacks per proc

[frosty herald]

Ah yes coconut

[spare talon]

Lacerate requires you to actively avoid the near 3x headshot damage

[quasi marsh]

and allows you to you know

fucking hit them in the head

[rocky marsh]

But one of my problems is on gunners if I don't crit it funking sucks

[quasi marsh]

how is lacerate gonna help

[fossil crag]

agreed #zealot-class message

[quasi marsh]

you're gonna bodyshot them for a better bp?

[rocky marsh]

I can left click left click the. Run away

[spare talon]

If you're spamming lights only yeah
You should kill him in 2 heavies with no crits

[rocky marsh]

Then

[wintry forge]

rate roll

[rocky marsh]

Ya need to heavy twice. Even caxe has better TTK at least on martyr

[quasi marsh]

no uncanny = try again

[rocky marsh]

I shouldn't use "even"

[fossil crag]

make sure your knife has high finess and first target

[quasi marsh]

knife doesnt lose a dodge even below 50 mobility

so feel free to dump the fuck out of it

[rocky marsh]

Cknife dodge recovery feels so slow

[quasi marsh]

in actual pratical game scenarios

the knife user will reach and kill the gunner before the caxe can even get in hitting range

[spare talon]

Who knew that the heavy damage axe on the melee damage keystone would do more damage than a knife with no melee damage keystone but only if you're very unlucky

[quasi marsh]

knife isnt good because it does the most damage period

its good because it matches up well against every armor type with extreme mobility

[rocky marsh]

Maybe the first gunner yeah, but afterwards it feels so sucky

[quasi marsh]

give the mk6 a try

[spare talon]

If you're using scourge piety and riposte you should be nearing 80% crit chance which basically makes every hit a crit lmao

[quasi marsh]

maybe you will feel differently being able to cleave multiple enemies at once

[fossil crag]

btw what purple node do you run since i dont have critting problems once i get the first scourge with blazing piety

[rocky marsh]

Just to ocnfirm. Riposte is the blessing right? I'm running uncanny precog

[fossil crag]

riposte gives crit when you dodge precog gives finess

[spare talon]

20% crit on dodge for 6 sec

[rocky marsh]

Ya I already said I'm running precognition >:v

I need to build another knife?

[spare talon]

But even with base knife crit, piety, and scourge, it should still be through the roof

[rocky marsh]

[quasi marsh]

you dont need riposte

[fossil crag]

it feels so good when your against a big horde and you use the cleave and regen ult in like 2/3 swipes 🤣

[quasi marsh]

i dont run it on either zealot or vet

and crit reliably anyway