#zealot-class
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character?
we all zealots here aint we 🧐
a lot of people come here to ask question about vet or psyker
xD
the BIG gun
https://www.twitch.tv/telopots
LINKS :
kuli's zealot guide :
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3088553235
his channel :
https://www.youtube.com/@kulii
Rending guide :
https://youtu.be/fIxOjj28cuE
Crosshair remap :
https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/253?tab=files
Crosshair fix :
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i tend to use my bolter a lot, so if i am no running blazing piety i still use pinning fire + shattering impact, for ammo economy
also, surgical + duellist + dance of death is fun but hard to pull out
im more looking for something to take down ranged specials & crushers tbh, i mostly play with my eviscerator lol
maybe a revolver with surgical + hand cannon?
it's very useable, but you take crucian roulette + handcannon or sustained fire on it
not surgical?
it's a fan revolver
oh oh oh sorry, the agri
surgical all the way on zarona
whats the best ult to pair with martydom? Also what the best way of completing shocking stuff penance?
you can also do surgical + crucian roulette if you want crits and not give credit to Big Rending
it's very good
don't worry
time for hadron to break it
you can do whatever with martyrdom
man i have a banger zarona on my vet perfect for my zealot that I cant use> 😦
well she gave me surgical 4 but otherwise bricked lol
really?
show!
rip thats a brick
needed the surgical so still a win
yeah really!
damn I was thinking paring fury and martydom
the classic choice
what, you can live with 1 bad perk
crit hit damage has got to be the worst
is hand cannon 3 okay?
just change gloryhunter and whichever perk
probably
yes
is using a flamer the best way to complete the shocking stuff penance?
hand cannon will be more felt on crushers and maulers, and you already got carapace
aight
yes
also whats the best way to build for a heavy sword? is the 9 still the best?
all hsword are excellent
so stun fury into flamer into mixed horde?
yes
k
9 is probably the most versatile
i just completed the stupid up close and personal penacne that was annoying
6 and 7 have the best heavies
is there a hsword that is leaning toward good cc?
because you lose dmg on 9 h2
what makes the 9 the most verstaile
whats the better hammer? is it a preference thing or is one better than the other
good cc is killing stuff with deathblow + headtaker
ty for your help, think im done with this one 😄
all the lights have the same adm profile
and you go l1 horizontal h2
Thanks, whats the best perks and blessings for hsword?
which is excellent for horde clear
and also, overhead heavy
if you go heavies, take 6 or 7
blessings are deathblow + headtajer
rampage is just inferior to deathblow now
thanks what about perks?
flak and elite/maniac/unyielding or maybe carapace
i have one with carapace to help me against maulers
(it;s locked)
i would go flak elite
well, you don't need unarmoured...
hald a second of surgical and everything unarmored is dead
stick with this one?
you can try elite too to see if you get a better bp against ragers
Preference, Crucis has better single target and Ironhelm is well-rounded
ah sorry wrong replay
yay im special :D
yeah, crucis is really for more bonking dmg
cool thanks, was remembering it was more preference
ironhelm is between crusher and crucis
is crucian roulette still a good perk or nah?
nah, go surgical
unless you are using agri revolver then in that case lol
Even on Agri, crucian is underwhelming 
yea
what fucking axe doesnt count as an axe in blessings
i took bm off some random axe
but its not on rashad
ok i think its astrax
atrox
atrox and rashad dont share blessings despite literally being axes
one is bigger
it's not like you have a better source of crits on agri...
and if you use a zarona, surgical being mandatory, what else do you use then if you do not want to use hand cannon
momentum or piety on rashad chat
momentum
ok gimme ur build
momentum
now..
despite having a finesse stat, crit doesn't do much for rashad
gaaaey..........
i wanted to do something different
so i took toughness regen and sprint efficiency on my curios
and gunner resist
nah throwing knifes aren't worth it
and i dunno
neither is toughness regen
but it works
with a bolter? yeah it works
i only run bolter
i wanted more zooming
and toughness actually helps with loner
no it doens't
not in the way you think
it's still 1/3rd efficiency
cause of loner
your primary toughness regen is always gonna be kills+chastise
i usually run that with a caxe
more like dodging and killing
that is still
not boosted at all
by toughness regen curio perk
no i wanted an excuse to use toughness regen
to see how much it matters in terms of survivability when i am alone and i don't wanbt to chastise
This man really wants beasts of nurgle dead
it doesn't cause it only boosts the 1/3rd coherency regen loner does (at 1/3rd) and that's it
ti doesn't boost any source of toughness other than coherency
i am still on the fence about changing that to either more stam regen or more revive speed
Coherency toughness regen also disables whenever an enemy is occupying a slot near you or when taking damage
i know, but that's why i use it with loner, no?
except only ranged enemies
you don't lose coherency near a gunner
yes but loner is always
1/3rd
I feel like there's not much time where there are only gunners around and no melee units
you count as having 1 ally
also yes
you lose toughness coherency in melee anyways,
that's what your toughness curios are doing
you are going from 33% to 66%
👏
oh sorry was not thinking straight
short night 🤢
so, i wanted zooming, i wanted fun and i wanted to use stuff i do not use usually
and game is way more fun that way
because it's so fucking tiring just playing the same thing all over
Y'all got a super power being able to play this game daily I won't lie
I play monthly if even that lmao
not playing till next hotfix
game crashes every 3 runs for me
out of memory is back
lol
that wans't my issue
i was just sick of having to play 2 sedition games for the shaders
We will send you back in
With a trebuchet
And a bucket helm
imagine crashing every 3 runs and having to recompile again to suffer from stuttering again
I pray for snow in the summer
Just once
idk
i have out of memory issues in dota 2 custom games
but in darktide? i can play all day
I'm enjoying having some fuckin sunlight for once
i don't have a fancy new rig either just a 107 0
ty, remembered hearing it had fallen off but couldnt remember if that was real or a fever dream from the Beneficent Emperor
come to the southern hemisphere
sun kills you
and of course thats the one Perk I have no levels for in Hadron
I spent 26 years in the southern hemisphere
tbf they consolidated power gap between blessing tiers
i can finally confirm you are not a vampire
so it isn't needed to have t4 anymore
summer in Canada is like Queensland winter 
it goes up to 100% just a tad bit slower
nah I dont even have T1 2 or 3
mobile scrimblo transportation
let alone 4
oh shit ive been running revive speed on all three of my curios for ages without realizing lmao
based reviver enjoyer
makes a quick chorus pop very easy revives
I am not a vampire
I am king of the junjle
first round with that revovler was pretty great
i only play solo quickplay and its nice to not always be last man standing lol
so revive speed helps a lot
i just wish the revolver had a speed loader on full empty T_T
well there is cursed node..
reloads revolver with writers intention
erm thats garrett the thief
from thief
the game
50%.
Just you: 0%
1 ally: 50%
2 allies: 75%
3 allies 100%.
ahh
so stacking 30 curios gets you
The real big brain buff is turning Loner into your character being a natural leader and it shifts it by 1 stage:
Just you: 50%
1 ally: 75%
2 allies: 100%
3 allies 150%.
Aight go "seleo" I hope you survive the horrors.
cursed node? lol
THE FOR HONOR EZIO SKIN
COST FUCKING
31K STEEL
you can get 800 steel a day
being generous you can get 1000 through orders
it takes 31 days of nonstop daily orders and contract orders to get a skin
insane
steel?
oh
dis aint ur daddys game...
havent played For Honor in a long time
oh course, no one in there is venerating the Beneficent Emperor
muttering don't click the link don't click the lin kdon'ffcijlickthe..
you should be banned
heresy!
i could beat a ferret up....
not scary........
gulp........
the torpedo
"hi dad how was wor-"
RASHAD SUCKS DICK
Got auric storm survivor and the 10 game purple title running martyrdom with Rashad and never going down once it’s quite possible the single best weapon in the game
Takes a little getting used to and that’s not a straw man at all
i wish all the good weapons werent lame as fuck
i refuse to use a little miniaxe
my brain naturally fights meta its not my fault
What does that even mean
meta deez
u know what meta is pal
Are you saying Rashad is meta
u guys sure suck its dick like it is!!
This is the Zealot channel, other games have been talked about far more than Darktide has.
rashaad is like the top of the meta ye
i still literally havent used it since pre-change bm lmao
But then anyone could say crusher is Meta ironhelm is meta both knife marks are meta
My most used weapon is mark 6 heavy sword
You're right you're banned from using any weapons
i mean sure rashad is good
but dclaw makes me feel like im good
ratio
Day before that was a crusher day
dclaw fucks too hard to use anything else
Mine is probably plasma gun since the original change to taking toughness damage love that bad boy
mrw beb beb doesn't have the file space to install the weapons so he's just using the only one that fit on his 200 mb hard drive
erm find a new joke pal
that ones stale
I like plasma for one reason: I run mk2 tactical axe on veteran with full melee build and plasma can still do something with zero ranged upgrades and it’s quick to pull out for a kill to keep weapon specialist up
I'm going to make fun of you for that entire convo for the rest of the time that I remember you.
watch this
funny little goober man in my computer
chad 150gb vs virgin 300tb
Loner just locks your coherency regen to having 2 people minimum (50% regen).
yes
assuming they fixed it from not doing anything
So yes, it'd work. It's worse than a curio perk but it's something ig.
wait, it used to do nothing? oO
It would give you 1 frame of 25% toughness then it wouldn't do anything for the rest of the mission
They have.
it's not 25tg regeneration speed?
Have you heard of ogryn
doesnt count..
thats like 10x too big shield and mace
It's toughness regen speed, the same that the TRS perks on curios give you. It only affects coherency regen.
You want a mace and shield so what you’re saying is you have a massive skill issue and want a board to help compensate it
perfect then!
cant even use a shield without LOSERS attacking me
i refuse to use a spear
if we aint in kissing distance buddy then we aint fighting
They could do a supression shield maybe for zealot?
i want a spear
Im going to bed
gn
ok supression shield would fuck though
The iq of this channel plummeted the second a Helldivers screenshot was posted
Or video clip whatever
on some real shit
just give me a fucking giant sword and a shield dude
Yeah I mean enforcers are mentioned surely they got one of those laying around
what the actual fuck
Favorite clip of the day will end the night watching that once more
what are they adding to the game
literally havent played since march
i want to play footknight in darktide
oh that's a modded weapon, it's 2 AP normally and kinda shitty.
the fucking sound of shoulder bashing an absurd amount of rats is the best
All beam weapons have a disabled burn application effect that I think would be really cool since fire does a lot of DPS.
ill never forget the chaos wastes match where i got my footknight recharge to 15 seconds
("dataminers" have taken the liberty of falsely claiming it is enabled and thereby making my job harder)
I mean this was around for a while
all we have to do is wait 2 months for the crafting update
then 2 more months for more weapons
They've added some fun weapons though. Since March they've added a lightning shotgun, laser LMG, plasma mortar, small Autocannon, a crossbow that shoots explosives, 3 AP battle rifle, base Liberator reskin, EMS SMG, chargeup plasma gun, a nerf laser pointer, a grenade launcher pistol, and a Deagle.
Now include the bad news
I mean there's a couple things that are bad, only one that's a present issue though is whatever Sony is doing. I think it's just Steam trying to avoid legal issues though.
sonys doing something else rn?
Balance issues are gonna be addressed, out of those listed weapons the only weapon I'd say got nerfed 'too much' was the Eruptor, but it seems that was due to an oversight.
yeah game isn't available in 180 countries
oh right they still need to fix that dont they
no the erruptor (not a nerf but turns out to be an intended nerf even though the devs said otherwise) is working as intended
crossbow sucks
don't cat react me it was my favourite weapon
Sony tried to enforce PSN accounts, it was illegal to own them in a load of countries, Steam made those countries unable to purchase the game, Sony reverted it after 4.5 gajillion negative reviews appeared, Sony backpedalled. The aftermath is still being worked on.
It's like, a fine weapon. Statistically great even. Why do people hate it? Is it some echo-chamber thing?
It got nerfed lol
No shit
They lowered its blast radius
It's basically a regular crossbow now
Anyway continuing on.
The BR is worse than the base assault rifle. The charge up plasma gun also sucks ass.
The thing literally never ran out of ammo prior to the nerf, now it's a bit more reasonable w/ total damage and still has good ammo econ. The AoE is fine, nerfed yes but you still get multi-kills with it. It's functionally an Eruptor but it hits harder directly (nice for bots since explosions don't hit weakspots), it has twice the DPS, it has more ammo, and the main draws are the lower durable damage and projectile drop.
The Tenderizer is an incredibly small sidegrade to the base Lib. Higher total, .6 less bullets per second. The recoil is nice but that's a lower skill curve thing, otherwise it's functionally the same weapon but uglier.
Purifier is Punisher Plasma but if you want a straight firing shot and more ammo at the cost of going from 80 to 50 rpm. It's fun but boring, could use an actual scaling shot instead of just being an Arc Thrower.
Pummeler is really fun though, the built-in EMS thing + the high stagger brings an interesting sidegrade at the cost of lower durable damage.
I haven't got any complaints about the pummeler you're right it is really fun
Can't do this with a Pummeler though, Lib Conc is jacked with the hidden stats
Which means it'll be nerfed eventually if we're following our current track.
mrw the devs gave it a 10x higher ragdoll force than literally any other weapon
ok ngl this is a weak response
I do have a complaint actually. Should have been ice themed instead that'd be fun given the name of the Warbond.
Doomer attitude. It's relatively balanced with other weapons, it's very much a sidegrade Defender which is already fine, and the Lib Conc still has the damage per-shot over the Pummeler due to durable. Not only that, but AH has already stated they're switiching how they're balancing stuff from here on, as the community doesn't like top-down balancing.
i was just loading into a mission and i opened a bottle of soda
and it fucking exploded
mostly directly at my face
did you keep playing as a true gamer would
I'll believe it when I see it. Last time I believed them the erruptor got fucking gutted.
another cole L
HEY
Eruptor was hitting for 1.5k damage per shot if you cheesed it no shit it got nerfed
arco you look like an exploded soda bottle
Then why didn't they lead with that. Instead we got "Oh it'll be buffed after we fix shrapnel"
It was out-competing support weapons for Charger kills. I don't like the nerf it got but it def needed a nerf.
yeah ngl if spilled soda on my set up id cry
im going to puncture you like a stabbed soda can
hot
what in the hell
that wasnt a stray
mankar would be dissapointed
it was a deliberate threat
hows that related to whether it was a stray or not
its fine
the cream soda is worth it
ngl everytime i have cream soda i dont notice the cream soda part
maybe i need to have it on its own
or something
it is a mystery
well that would be josho making it blantantly not gay
known homosexualizer josho
The public reasoning was that the 1.5k damage thing was viewed as an exploit, shrapnel was hitting for too much if you could hit right. So, they saw that + the community complaining about ricochets and it actually being Eruptor shrapnel and they removed shrapnel. It sounded like they were trying to put it into the spot that they thought it should be at, then buffing it from that to compensate for the 'exploiting'
known women respecter josho
how had i never seen this screen shot
oh cause its old
i do not post it often
but it is very powerful
mankar once told me im the closest thing hes ever had to a mother
i think about this often
what
where did mankar go
havent seen him in a while
Right now the Eruptor is more of a giga-big boom primary that is bot focused, which feels reasonable since the Crossbow hits the DPS BPs to actually get value out of it being an explosive weapon (ie good for bugs)
hes around just in DT cord less
wym what
seems pretty clear to me
i think it was me him and skele or something
horrific
I personally think they should've just made the shrapnel do far less damage then cap the distance it goes or give it a 0% friendly fire mod. It was an interesting idea.
terrorizing good citizens of america by going outside
I see them flat out reverting the erruptor changes tbh they need good will rn they need it fast.
They also need to tell their lead balancer to stop talking on the discord
Lead balancer isn't in the discord anymore iirc.
i think i told him it was the nicest thing anyone has ever said to me
several of the devs need to be restrained from accessing the discord
wow just like me today!
you people are fucking bizarre
"you people"
Also I'm doubtful that they'll ever let OG Eruptor back, shit was like upwards of 50k total damage.
I APPRECIATED IT
what a nice mother-son relationship between two men in their 20s
lmao
never say this again
please
u shithead
that needs pinned
We'll see honestly idk with this company. They'll release a buff to it and bullets have a 30% chance to explode in the barrel killing you, you report the bug and the devs go "Oh yeah we'll do some more testing for it yeah" like. Unbelievable things happening in that company
ok this was not what i was going for
or maybe it wsa
idk
i'm glad you're having doubts
i thought it was a nice comment
maybe the bar is too low
mankar did get a little sad after i said that
As said before they said they're addressing it. Some of the devs didn't like the balancing, the CEO didn't either. Give it a minute.
a nice comment in context but of out context it is really funny
i had to say what i said
yeah out of context
as god's agent, i was compelled by a holy force to make that comment
I'm talking about how buggy the game is there though. Their QA department is so bad or their test environment is bad. I'll give them the benefit of the doubt being a software developer myself but at the same time.
Come on guys these bugs are unacceptably bad.
is that you are married to both mankar and josho so what does that make me
althogh skele says im married to josho
idk how it goes anymore
idk if it's my like 600 hours of not giving a shit about good items in Darktide but I enjoy the relative spot weaopns are in rn. Some stuff needs a change, Breaker Incendiary is a good example of something too strong and the Dagger is an example of something far too weak.
wtf is this hidden lore
laz mentioned that you 3 are married
oh i think i remember this a bit
but skele said me and josho are married so it probably depends who you ask
although mankar isnt involved in one
this is the worst polyamorous relationship ever
who's up to sketch up the relationship chart
well it wouldnt be hard
technically
only 2 things to keep track of
unless you were counting the mother son part
that adds a bit more
🙂
wheres my MS paint at
throw in terms like "abuser" and "victim"
wait how do i differentiate the skele timeline
sure thing 🙂
I mean we were talking about balance here, I gave my opinion on how they're handling balance. The bugs should be handled first and foremost, people can't enjoy the Spear or Arc Thrower (even though Arc Thrower and Blitzer hardly have issues) and it's been like that for a long while. The DoT bug nearly envoloped two releases of DoT grenades like wtf.
But with their dev team it feels like this will be a post-patch thing more than a preventative one, they have literally anyone they can get QAing stuff sometimes.
actually how do i want to make this
and thus yoshi's life begins to spiral out of control
just label every arrow coming from josho as "abuser"
I get what you mean and obviously balance and bug fixing are usually separate it's just they bleed together with the erruptor thing. Them buffing fire damage three times even though the DoT bug was the problem (a bug the community reported for nearly a month before AH acknowledged it) making hulks one-shot you if they even look at you funny and the spear not even being functioning enough to consider a competitor.
Then there's stuff like the airburst rocket and it makes balance discussions hard with the sheer amount of things that don't function.
I've talked to fans who say AH has seen the errors of their ways and are going to stop top down balancing
But jury's still out on that
Again I gotta see it to believe it.
For now I'll hold no opinions one way or the other
Maybe they actually will boot up the game and start playing
But I will jest about the balance patch in 3 weeks that nerfs the tenderiser
Nah incin breaker and fire grenades the first to go
Because primaries are not meant for killing enemies
You know again I'll give arrowhead the benefit of the doubt for most bugs. Coding is complicated.
Okay but for real the ship module upgrade that literally didn't work? How did you launch it like that it takes under a minute to test it. Infact community members reported it not working 5 minutes after the patch came out.
Like WHAT???
It could also be an issue if they actually get feedback compilations from those reddit moderators aka community managers, which are drastically incompetent and i'm not even playing Helldivers 2.
It's not like they are doing a survey each patch like Genshin Impact.
Hey we don't want genshin surveys we'd like changes within the next 6 months

Don't worry Travellers we're putting everything but artefact loadouts in
genshin impact fans found in my zealot chat
They have the issue that their mega fans have invested life savings into the characters
more likely then u'd thinkl
So they can't just nerf shit 
Unless China gets really mad
The gacha mechanics are aimed at those people, who can't control themselves, sadly, even my IRL friend got captured in this scam.
Back in 2021, Genshin did not have a guarantee for a weapon, and my friend spent around 2500$ USD for Hu Tao weapon and DIDN'T GET ONE. (He got 16 other weapons, which means he lost 16 times 50% chance in a row)
Gacha is essentialy a pure scam and mihoyo is one of the worsest gachas out there, despite the Genshin being a quality game in terms of story.
Lmfao it is the struggle why is the gacha games story so fucking good lmfao
It's just gacha
Yeah, but many people can't so it is what it is 
You don't need to spend to enjoy the story anyway, afaik
No but having a well built neuvilette certainly helps
I gotta get my idol penance, any good builds out there that uses it with martyrdom
After playing Genshin for 3+ years, i certainly don't want to experience the game with Kekeya, Amber, Lisa and random Traveler element as a core team.
Punishment use hydro traveller for 100000 years.
Fucking unbelievable hoyoverse news. Harmony trailblazer in honkai is good and even viable???
They made MC GOOD
I gotta finish the honkai story stuff it's like 8 hours long
also, it seems Ghost of Tsushima is also banned in 120+ countries, which i did expect to happen
i played genshin for like 8 hours
realized i wasnt having the slightest bit of fun
then stopped
Huh 
Psn again?
Nice
also when is fatshark gonna make their game stable again
my game reliably crashes at either the start or end screen of missions, nowhere else, every few missions
and its been this way since the PoR update
you'l need to buy the key from 3rd party websites
but that could not work in some cases
Ive had out of memory a few times
you sure its not some mod that causes it
mm, with Eruptor I don't think it featured a bug outside of the firerate tech you could do. You could exploit the shrapnel, which was an oversight not a bug. Fire was buffed once by 50%, then nerfed by 15%, then got a stratagem exclusive buff by 25% (currently is at 63 base damage per tick w/ the upgrade, 50 without). I see what you mean though, some weapons have been buggy and showed signs of little playtesting. Spear is thankfully getting a fix soon, making it more accessable to those who don't want to learn the weird tech.
its unlikely since my friend was having the same issues and he doesnt use mods
fair enough
im at 29 mods and 6700 XT (23.3.1) and works perfectly
the old amd drivers did caused some huge issues for me in 2023
im currently up to date on those too
hey gang whats the best blessings for the combat blade?
lol I gotcha
just not lacerate
is flesh tearer worth building around w/ mercy kill?
cool ok
the 60% finesse damage on dodge
since that includes both weakpoint AND crit damage
mercy killer only weakpoint
That does seem great actually, I just havent rolled it yet
Ruthless backstab any good? I've been using it + flesh on my steath vet
But it sounds like uncanny is just better
pretty much
could go for ruthless if you like the vibe but optimality-wise uncanny is better yeah
I think ill swap it out. I'm fully in the combat blade church right now
i personally like to run uncanny strike + riposte, since the relative improvement from Precognition is reduced whenever Duellist (dodge talent) is up
and i like the higher uptime on riposte and consistency since crit bps are nice
20% is impressive on the dodge
I need to try it out. I do like the bleed stax though
i haven't checked the BPs on uncanny + riposte but i'd wager that i would probably hit more consistent BPs with riposte
if you like bleed, you might opt for riposte + flesh tearer, as long as you're willing to give up uncanny strike
since the knife has rather disproportionate benefits from crits, one of which is bumping up the good armour damage modifiers that mitigate the need for uncanny strike
i find riposte to be nicer due to its more lenient and also knife is weighted harder into crits than headshots
ah I did not know that
although both are ideal
but giving up uncanny strike also means giving up some degenerate interactions
e.g., uncanny strike + throwing knives
I keep telling myself im waiting for the crafting rework to start rolling again lmao
whew didnt know that either
tknives interact with most blessings
but if you want a blessing pairing that has bleed, i personally recommend riposte + fleshtearer
My friends all quit because they hate Darktide RNG crafting and don't want to spent 100 to 300 hours farming minimum
and got cucked by using the available resources
but im not sure if they will come back after
its worn me out too
guys
yeah i despise the current crafting system
hopefully they're cooking something nicer
im legaly an adult in 8 minutes
congrats
hell yeah happy early bday
thank you all
nice
im going gambling in 7 hours

NICE
this is so tragic
you cant buy tobacco anymore right
is it a joke or like a family trip to las vegas or what
it feels so weird being part of the % that has a lot of really good/solid weapons and just wanting new toys now lmao
I remember they changed that the year i turned 19 I was so mad
actually driving to the nearest casino with no alcohol
my moms idea
what a good parent
its either that OR you got 700+ hours and hundreds of thousands of plasteel so you can bruteforce it
starting your child young
I would nolife this game if the crafting was better lol but I get that
i think 400 of those hours are zealot
if only this was the future where your parents could have introduced genshin impact to you young
she used to buy me and my brother scratches
imagine what could have been 😢
im really hoping for a 2h weapon that isn't a chain weapon man, thematically cool but they all feel like poop to use to me
2h sword 2h sword
especially as a martyrdom main i wanna attack fast!!! stop making me do a 2 second long attack!!
as a psyker main i advocate for the 2h force sword and will tell every other human class to suck it
then my brother hit 21 and then she never bought any more scartches just heading to vegas or wendover
I'd say 2/3 of this is ogryn but rookie numbers
i still think its very funny there's a 2h power sword
and it will be even funnier if it really is a vet only weapon
because the power sword is already heavy weapon stats in mobility lmao, that thing will make you so slow if it's on vet
-cough- -cough-
Here's your Evis MK4 and Evis MK17 with reversed movesets
it really does make you wonder how they're going to diversify the 1h and 2h
kill
ogryn 2H would be a sight to see
there was a "Power Falchion" referred to in one of the patches
i think this is just going to be the power sword, but for zealot
the "same thing", but a separate weapon so it can be easily balanced for zealot
should i use the birthday money i already got and open tf2 crates
bc if you just, gave zealots power swords they would have a weapon of mass destruction lmao
crates are fun but if you get bad rolls youre gonna hate yourself
no unusuals for u
get a game or something id say
im so good at getting unusuals
if you want to gamble in tf2 just do tour of duty you get to play the game and gamble at the same time
i opened a strange the other day for pyro
buy my $70 flame thrower thanks
im still rocking my nuts n bolts christmas tree i unboxed in middle school. its hideous
vet/psyker class melees i would love to have on zealot 😔
my pyro drip is strange tho
i should do more tour of duties, agreed
i like my scout and engi drip more
zealot force sword
zealot dueling sword would be crazy
arco you need to stop cooking
i did some napkin math and zealot would be able to hit ds4 crusher one-shots and without unreasonable buffs
i feel like i have one of the most cooked takes and its that zealot has the worst weapons of all the classes
like ive been playing ogryn for penance completion
the mk5 shovel just one-shots things with flip
and the flip doesn't have a timer
anmd i have to give a crusher backshots three times with a martyrdom hammer
pther classes need those to have a patch on zealot’s RAW FAITH
I also use the shovel on ogryn pretty busted
you get a taste of the duelling sword with the knife which is still especially good on zealot because you can rack up a lot of average crit chance
but having the duelling sword itself would be nice
vet mk6 power sword can also just charge > push attack > light > light
oh look dead crusher
zealot's weapons are good but it's just that psyker has a better combat blade, and vet's powersword has absurd generalist damage output
(also they can cleave through 5 armored units with that energized cleave blessing but we dont talk about that)
And when i play marty zealot i use the axe 
i use the axe too, it's serviceable but man its just like
can i have the ogryn shovel?
please?
power sword overrated
Would be cool
poopscooper based
ALSO i want to be a devils claw user so bad
but you just have like next to no anti-armor capability if you use one
unless you want to use a boltgun and take 5 years to pull it out and someone will kill it before you do

😂😂
i had this yesterday
i was running my vet penances and oneshotting everything with revolver
poor zilotto shoot a lot at dead bodies
i had it happen when i was doing my lucky bullet penance, i see big hordes and im like "aw ye time to let it rip"
And having no grenades against armour
ya bolter needs support and revolve needs nerf
other ogryn throws a frag bomb
but ye zealot feels like a good class, but their weapons, for some reason, are just a notch below everyone elses
zealot mininuke when
thunder hammer is rad tho
it upsets me that vet and ogryn both have rending on their tree but zealots don't get any
I love zoomies
technically they get the charges (idr the name) thing that reduces the armor level by 1
but it's a single hit
You can run behind ogryn or vet for killing the 10 crushers 😂
so not particularly useful on weapons that need rending
honestly give every weapon uncanny strike

i solved the problem
for psword, my guess is just that they were afraid to nerf it too much because they got reviewbombed for a milquetoast nerf to the pswords previously
and a combination of the psword getting really nice features without getting a nerf together
though it does last for 3 seconds and ranged attacks don't consume the buff
so you can just ult and spray n pray crushers
yeah im guessing psword was them being careful
absolutely not
id say i can legally join the military now but im type 1 diabetic so i cant
but of course, the power of something rises exponentially in the hands of good players
the mobility doesn't matter much in a game where there is a mechanic similar to melee i-frames
and weapon specialist completely negates the dodges
you shit out way too much damage for it to matter and vet has stuff to make the mobility less ass
if dodges were less free and good, i'd agree
but they're just too good for short-distance dodges to be a meaningful downside
also -
yeah i was about to say
when i learned that shouts temporary toughness is actually like
10 seconds of just constantly generating temp toughness
it amazes me that some veterans with shout even go down
4 shouties
and 100% toughness regen on the initial activation
and short cooldown
Ehh maybe they learn the game or haven't played in a long time it happens
yeah it's fair enough
some people at like level 300+ get a side eye from me though
you definitely should know that game at that point lol
shout is very competitive as an ability though it's cool
i feel like infiltrate just sucks in comparison to shout and executioners stance
i dislike stealth but stealth is inevitably quite good
and it's still 100% toughness regen if you decide to use it as a frontline ability
noita time
Yeah i use shout on vet its almost impossible to go down with such low cd and so much tgh
i used it a little and it supresses in a huge area, but you're out of position now and shout can generate infinite toughness to break the line and executioners stance will just let you kill them
its very good as a revive tool but planning for the worst case scenario kinda stinks imo
having a tool for the occasion is nice but
pretty much impossible, unless you get trapped in a horde or something (which happens to everyone)
speaking of, the talent that veteran has that's like, +20% revive/assist speed and +20?% movement speed to disabled allies + stun immunity is so funny
im literally an ambulance
+30% revive/assist speed on my curios, +20% from talents, c'mon buddy i got better than revive shout
no points for 20% res

it doesn't have a cooldown
my build can take it but i dont remember what my build is
but yeah i have outran a knife zealot to a downed ally it was very funny
would be nice if 10% res also applied to rescues and not just downed targets
not like that would be OP or gamebreaking
shout is good. its from vermintide, made whc and merc quite strong. feels ok to have in dtide without being mandatory.
And the vet stealth is much better than zealot one
the fact that its 8s base

and not 3+3 with one point
well he didn't get damage increase like zealot one
i miss hagbane
and friendly fire
Ogryns would be dead 24/7 if friendly fire was on
facts, im using agri8 and just shoot through ogryns
honestly given how often i mistake allies for enemies in this game, i do not miss that
most ppl would be dead most of the time with ff tbh, MUCH more firepower in dtide
other than like dwarf gunner vtide is a whacky wacky game
i use the rashad on vet, feels pretty alright
y'know speaking of psykers
i hope they pull in the last 2 staves we're missing from vt2
Agri mk8 enjoyer hehe i love that gun also but on the zealot i use revolver
bolt and beam staves
i do miss bolt
yeah, it's zealot at home for sure
but it's comfortable enough
bringing survivalist will make a lot of people happy
i need a different rashad tho
on this one unarmoured is locked
i want either carapace
unyelding
or maniac
unaurmoured is wasted since melee damage is already higher than needed per swing (in my build)
Yesterday i was pretty lucky i crafted an rashad with 25 carapace / 25 flak . Thrust 4 and limbsplitter 3 or whatever is called and decent stats 375 and i can change 1 more perk or bless
you can just change to headtaker4/BM4
Yeah i was thinking about that but i don't have those damn t4 only the crit one
25% carapace gives one less hit on crushers
t3 are fine too
they are like
2-3% apart
Well i have all of them in t3 so is good

bitch
why wont steam let me give u my $2
damn
Average zealot chat
😂😂
i honestly don't remember it was just some penance grinding with 2500 marksman kills
i deleted it (after doing the penance)
nothing unusual though
win+shift+S
false imo
im so close yet so far
i did however refund a steam game a bit ago so once i get that money back ill get hunt
Sony just banned Ghost of Tsushima from being sold.
180 countries literally got banned from buying the game.
oh wait, it's 180, not 120
also
There are 195 recognised countries in the world, according to the United Nations. 193 of these are member states of the UN, while two countries are non-member observer states: Vatican City and the State of Palestine.
Don't care I can play in my country 
okri why arent we friends on steam
how is the chili pepper such a goated fruit
so varied
so versatile
so unique
absolute god tier culinary item truly
taken for granted on god
I'm doing well
Just busy with work
Taking a break from darktide till next patch drops
What curios are good nowadays? I'd assume that zealots want the toughness blessing on them with +toughness and tougness regen for perks
you dont want toughness regen since it doesnt work in melee
Toughness curio with toughness, hp, and gunner resist perks
No toughness Regen
Sounds good, but isn't too useful for zealot, due to the reason Evan mentioned above
whats good on the columnus 5
Dumdum / Deathspitter or Fire Frenzy
cheers
the only thing that will drop is you
so till 2026
Sending you to the grave
@ivory pumice Your durable damage is wrong for the Lib Concussive.
I feel like this is the wrong place to ping me lol
I'm not in the Helldivers server, I was lurking for info and saw your spreadsheet.
Do they not have a dataminer there?
but ya, seems so
smh
we're technically not allowed to post about datamining
obvious stuff like illuminate is well off the table
but low-level stuff like this goes under the radar, or the mods let it slide, so
So true weapon stats are off the table there? Seems a bit odd.
technically yes, but like I said, the mods tend to let it slide
I see
datamining is general is banned, since there's a lot of story stuff, and naturally people don't want to get spoiled out of the blue with no warning
and that's fairly reasonable IMO
That makes sense yeah.
Here are those stats. Currently collecting enemy health values so it doesn't have demo or stagger yet.
you've seen this, right?
https://invadersfromplanet.space/helldivers-2/
That site has incorrect info, I've been trying to contact them.
you've been pulling the numbers yourself?
Yes, I have a steam guide up w/ this stuff. I'm using custom weapons for HP benchmarks and pulling damage IDs for everything.
shit, you should join the leaks discord
i trust exhil with this stuff
if you're on reddit, you should be able to contact the guy who made the spreadsheet with a DM, or ask through one of the discords
I want my stuff to be accessible, so I'm only posting it on Steam. Once HP values are setup and I have everything laid out I'll throw it at reddit or smth. It's been a frustrating process since I've known about a good number of mechanics but I wait too long to post it since I want to test it, only for other people to post it first.
I only have the website, no clue what the guy's reddit is.
like, demo stagger and ragdoll force were fun to find out only for someone 3 hours prior to include it in their spreadsheet. Then the spreadsheet has wrong info about weapons and other mechanics
this was the post from a few days ago
https://www.reddit.com/r/Helldivers/comments/1cmg8nu/comment/l319vpx/
"If Lib Pen has a higher headshot multipler than Liberator, why isn't it doing more damage to Helldiver heads?" 💀
yeah, that's a bit of a lol reference to a much older reddit thread, since proven false
funnily enough it's still a huge source of misinformation lmao, people still come in yapping about headshot damage regularly
Fuck I miss
Yes, some random dude was trying to convince me it existed because of that OG post saying "oooh weapons have to have weakspot mods for this to be true"
if i see red hitmarker i headshot ezpz
Question
answer
no, since its fatshark
Elaborate
you mean cursed weapons?
you'l get +10% weakspot damage and -50% sprint speed
you'd have to basically design a game from the ground up to work like that
i don't think you could reasonably implement it with the current system and not make people angry
Ah yes people loved old limbsplitter
Here's my guide, has some stuff as a WIP because I can't hold back info for larger releases without looking like I plagiarized. https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3221849493
I can't thank you enough for this, by the way - this is great stuff
I mean it's just the damage IDs and spreadsheet math
God I want more bleed stack
well 16 stacks can already kill ogryn/crusher from around 45% hp by themselves
collating the data, since it's so inaccessible for most people, is worth a lot
I can work out the spreadsheet math fine, but getting values is the hard part for me
Chat is that true?
with uncanny
I run bleed on my knife for the crit chance
And to zoom
God I wish I could run as fast or more then a mutant
It's been a long process. My only motivation was due to some dweeb thinking that Railgun used the 6-8 AP damage ID for unsafe mode and then having incorrect values for random weapons. To this day there are spreadsheets claiming the Flamer does 3 dps (I am not joking).
some undervalue fire too, 50 base 25 durable isn't the per second damage.
ha
well, rest assured, there are certainly a lot of people interesting in an all-in-one guide like this
tbh something as comprehensive as this would get passed around faster than you could say "liberty"
Just got this, thinking of swapping out Rev it Up and Melee Damage for Momentum and Flak ? Using on a wound zealot
Oh btw I heard darktide change bombef fire damage
It's less obnoxious now
out of curiosity, if you're not in the HD2 server, how did you come by my spreadsheet?
If I remenber it used to delete toughness in mere seconds right?
yeah
like in a 1.5 seconds
Couple ways you could go with it. For perks, yeah. You can swap Rev It Up to Shred though and get good value out of Wrath if you grab crit CDR (you don't need Blazing Piety), or could grab Rampage for the cleave damage and further cleave for CC (do keep in mind the lights are target capped to 4 targets damaged). Momentum would be a preference pick, ig depends on your build.
(The reason I stop running a pure toughness build)
Tbh my build is probably awful, sec I'll get it made and post it here
I wish I can throw knife while using the funny relic aura
I don't read into meta, I just throw together and see what happens 😄
Well, you missed it, but at first they forked up and not only it deleted your toughness in a second it also deleted your entire HP pool right after that, in one second too.
I like looking into the armory chat to laugh at the shitty takes and general malding and I found your post (spreadsheet + name I recognized). I also just look up dev messages to find news, I did the same thing for Darktide from launch to ~August before I just decided to join.
fair
I don't think I missed it since getting res in the fire meant insta death
Like who res someone in a pile of fire
Man couldn't wait
Anyhow I need to do some auric run when I can
Any title to get btw?
Like a funny title
Smth like the rat man
worth buying from melk?
Or smth
I probably have controversial takes on balance but it's like, so funny seeing a guy claim the Dagger performs better than the Explosive Crossbow. Not even a single person, it pops up multiple times. The reason I stumbled across that site you linked was due to the listings of beam weapons igniting enemies (it doesn't), someone was saying that the Dagger was a pocket Flamer.