#zealot-class

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fading saffron
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fav boltgun perk/blessings?

polar nexus
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character?

fading saffron
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we all zealots here aint we 🧐

polar nexus
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a lot of people come here to ask question about vet or psyker

fading saffron
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xD

fading saffron
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ooo

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ty

polar nexus
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i tend to use my bolter a lot, so if i am no running blazing piety i still use pinning fire + shattering impact, for ammo economy

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also, surgical + duellist + dance of death is fun but hard to pull out

fading saffron
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im more looking for something to take down ranged specials & crushers tbh, i mostly play with my eviscerator lol

polar nexus
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maybe a revolver with surgical + hand cannon?

fading saffron
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mmmmm i have been meaning to give revolver a try

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which mk?

polar nexus
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zarona

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agri has no cleave and worse fallof dmg

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it

fading saffron
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T_T

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hopefully get a couple decent greys with 2mil

polar nexus
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it's very useable, but you take crucian roulette + handcannon or sustained fire on it

fading saffron
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not surgical?

polar nexus
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it's a fan revolver

fading saffron
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oh oh oh sorry, the agri

polar nexus
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surgical all the way on zarona

fading saffron
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kk

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acceptable or am i missing breakpoints with 71% dmg

potent rain
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whats the best ult to pair with martydom? Also what the best way of completing shocking stuff penance?

polar nexus
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you can also do surgical + crucian roulette if you want crits and not give credit to Big Rending

polar nexus
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don't worry

fading saffron
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xD

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may hadron bless me

polar nexus
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time for hadron to break it

polar nexus
potent rain
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man i have a banger zarona on my vet perfect for my zealot that I cant use> 😦

fading saffron
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well she gave me surgical 4 but otherwise bricked lol

potent rain
fading saffron
potent rain
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rip thats a brick

fading saffron
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needed the surgical so still a win

polar nexus
potent rain
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damn I was thinking paring fury and martydom

polar nexus
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the classic choice

north sedge
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what, you can live with 1 bad perk

potent rain
polar nexus
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i would keep weak spot dmg

fading saffron
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is hand cannon 3 okay?

north sedge
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just change gloryhunter and whichever perk

polar nexus
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probably

polar nexus
potent rain
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is using a flamer the best way to complete the shocking stuff penance?

polar nexus
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hand cannon will be more felt on crushers and maulers, and you already got carapace

potent rain
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aight

potent rain
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also whats the best way to build for a heavy sword? is the 9 still the best?

polar nexus
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or an hsword/chword

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but flamer is probably the best choice overall

polar nexus
potent rain
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so stun fury into flamer into mixed horde?

polar nexus
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yes

potent rain
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k

polar nexus
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9 is probably the most versatile

potent rain
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i just completed the stupid up close and personal penacne that was annoying

polar nexus
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6 and 7 have the best heavies

potent rain
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is there a hsword that is leaning toward good cc?

polar nexus
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because you lose dmg on 9 h2

potent rain
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what makes the 9 the most verstaile

slow brook
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whats the better hammer? is it a preference thing or is one better than the other

polar nexus
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good cc is killing stuff with deathblow + headtaker

fading saffron
polar nexus
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and you go l1 horizontal h2

potent rain
polar nexus
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which is excellent for horde clear

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and also, overhead heavy

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if you go heavies, take 6 or 7

polar nexus
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rampage is just inferior to deathblow now

potent rain
polar nexus
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flak and elite/maniac/unyielding or maybe carapace

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i have one with carapace to help me against maulers

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(it;s locked)

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i would go flak elite

polar nexus
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hald a second of surgical and everything unarmored is dead

fading saffron
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stick with this one?

polar nexus
visual stream
polar nexus
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ah sorry wrong replay

slow brook
polar nexus
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yeah, crucis is really for more bonking dmg

slow brook
polar nexus
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ironhelm is between crusher and crucis

slow brook
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is crucian roulette still a good perk or nah?

fleet zealot
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unless you are using agri revolver then in that case lol

spiral anvil
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Even on Agri, crucian is underwhelming Sitgryn

fleet zealot
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yea

maiden path
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what fucking axe doesnt count as an axe in blessings

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i took bm off some random axe

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but its not on rashad

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ok i think its astrax

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atrox

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atrox and rashad dont share blessings despite literally being axes

polar nexus
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no

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atrox is tactical, rashad is combat

maiden path
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wah wah wah

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they're fucking axes

polar nexus
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one is bigger

maiden path
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WAH WAH WAH

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GIMME BM 4

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!!!!!!!!

polar nexus
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and if you use a zarona, surgical being mandatory, what else do you use then if you do not want to use hand cannon

maiden path
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momentum or piety on rashad chat

fleet zealot
maiden path
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ok gimme ur build

polar nexus
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momentum

maiden path
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now..

fleet zealot
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despite having a finesse stat, crit doesn't do much for rashad

polar nexus
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i have a degenrate build

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like very degenerate

fleet zealot
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no

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i'm playing autogladiators rn

maiden path
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gaaaey..........

polar nexus
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i wanted to do something different

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so i took toughness regen and sprint efficiency on my curios

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and gunner resist

fleet zealot
polar nexus
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and i dunno

fleet zealot
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neither is toughness regen

polar nexus
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but it works

fleet zealot
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or sprint efficeincy

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everything can work

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i'm just saying it's sub optimal

polar nexus
fleet zealot
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i guess if you are running flamer

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well that's just running bolter

polar nexus
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i only run bolter

polar nexus
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and toughness actually helps with loner

fleet zealot
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no it doens't

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not in the way you think

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it's still 1/3rd efficiency

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cause of loner

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your primary toughness regen is always gonna be kills+chastise

polar nexus
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i usually run that with a caxe

polar nexus
fleet zealot
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not boosted at all

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by toughness regen curio perk

polar nexus
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no i wanted an excuse to use toughness regen

fleet zealot
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yes

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your excuse is bad and you should feel bad

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just run it

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don't justify it

polar nexus
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to see how much it matters in terms of survivability when i am alone and i don't wanbt to chastise

tropic pelican
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This man really wants beasts of nurgle dead

fleet zealot
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it doesn't cause it only boosts the 1/3rd coherency regen loner does (at 1/3rd) and that's it

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ti doesn't boost any source of toughness other than coherency

polar nexus
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i am still on the fence about changing that to either more stam regen or more revive speed

tropic pelican
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Coherency toughness regen also disables whenever an enemy is occupying a slot near you or when taking damage

polar nexus
polar nexus
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you don't lose coherency near a gunner

fleet zealot
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1/3rd

tropic pelican
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I feel like there's not much time where there are only gunners around and no melee units

fleet zealot
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you count as having 1 ally

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also yes

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you lose toughness coherency in melee anyways,

polar nexus
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ok big brainb

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how much toughness regen do i need to simulate 2 allies

fleet zealot
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you are going from 33% to 66%

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👏

polar nexus
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oh sorry was not thinking straight

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short night 🤢

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so, i wanted zooming, i wanted fun and i wanted to use stuff i do not use usually

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and game is way more fun that way

fleet zealot
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yes

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play like that

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i'm just saying how it works

polar nexus
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because it's so fucking tiring just playing the same thing all over

sterile stone
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Y'all got a super power being able to play this game daily I won't lie

delicate shadow
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I play monthly if even that lmao

fleet zealot
polar nexus
median steeple
polar nexus
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out of memory is back

fleet zealot
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that wans't my issue

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i was just sick of having to play 2 sedition games for the shaders

sterile stone
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With a trebuchet

sterile stone
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And a bucket helm

polar nexus
sterile stone
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Just once

fleet zealot
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idk

fleet zealot
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i have out of memory issues in dota 2 custom games

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but in darktide? i can play all day

delicate shadow
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I'm enjoying having some fuckin sunlight for once

fleet zealot
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i don't have a fancy new rig either just a 107 0

slow brook
polar nexus
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sun kills you

slow brook
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and of course thats the one Perk I have no levels for in Hadron

delicate shadow
fleet zealot
royal vortex
fleet zealot
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so it isn't needed to have t4 anymore

delicate shadow
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summer in Canada is like Queensland winter DrillW

fleet zealot
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it goes up to 100% just a tad bit slower

slow brook
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nah I dont even have T1 2 or 3

fleet zealot
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mobile scrimblo transportation

slow brook
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let alone 4

fading saffron
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oh shit ive been running revive speed on all three of my curios for ages without realizing lmao

polar nexus
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based reviver enjoyer

fading saffron
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makes a quick chorus pop very easy revives

delicate shadow
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I am king of the junjle

fading saffron
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first round with that revovler was pretty great

polar nexus
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revive speed is probably my next choice

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stealth reviver ninja

fading saffron
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i only play solo quickplay and its nice to not always be last man standing lol

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so revive speed helps a lot

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i just wish the revolver had a speed loader on full empty T_T

polar nexus
misty nova
maiden path
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from thief

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the game

ripe quest
fleet zealot
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so stacking 30 curios gets you

ripe quest
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The real big brain buff is turning Loner into your character being a natural leader and it shifts it by 1 stage:
Just you: 50%
1 ally: 75%
2 allies: 100%
3 allies 150%.

fleet zealot
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about 100% toughness rat

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huh

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i'm brain fried

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i go seleo

ripe quest
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Aight go "seleo" I hope you survive the horrors.

fading saffron
polar nexus
maiden path
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THE FOR HONOR EZIO SKIN

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COST FUCKING

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31K STEEL

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you can get 800 steel a day

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being generous you can get 1000 through orders

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it takes 31 days of nonstop daily orders and contract orders to get a skin

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insane

fleet zealot
maiden path
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steeeeeeeeel

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thats what the cash is called.......

slow brook
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dont member

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theres the normal cash, Melks things, plasteel and Diamantine

maiden path
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what

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im talking FOR HONOR

slow brook
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oh

maiden path
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dis aint ur daddys game...

slow brook
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no this is a Wendys sir

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or ma'am

maiden path
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my name beb beb

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i am not a woman

slow brook
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havent played For Honor in a long time

maiden path
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i havent either

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jus getting back into it

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and getting very angry

slow brook
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oh course, no one in there is venerating the Beneficent Emperor

fading saffron
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muttering don't click the link don't click the lin kdon'ffcijlickthe..

polar nexus
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heresy!

fleet zealot
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Ferret Fun Fact!

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you are not alone

maiden path
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not scary........

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gulp........

steep flame
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the torpedo

red pollen
maiden path
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RASHAD SUCKS DICK

red pollen
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Got auric storm survivor and the 10 game purple title running martyrdom with Rashad and never going down once it’s quite possible the single best weapon in the game

maiden path
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eerm strawman

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dclaw fucks harder

red pollen
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Takes a little getting used to and that’s not a straw man at all

maiden path
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i wish all the good weapons werent lame as fuck

red pollen
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Rashad can kill anything in the game with great effectiveness

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Devil claw can not

maiden path
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i refuse to use a little miniaxe

red pollen
maiden path
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my brain naturally fights meta its not my fault

red pollen
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What does that even mean

ripe quest
red pollen
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No one cares about whatever game that is

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It sure ain’t Darktide

maiden path
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u know what meta is pal

red pollen
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Are you saying Rashad is meta

maiden path
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u guys sure suck its dick like it is!!

ripe quest
coarse birch
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rashaad is like the top of the meta ye

spare talon
red pollen
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But then anyone could say crusher is Meta ironhelm is meta both knife marks are meta

maiden path
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GOD FUCK

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THIS GAME HAS NO WEAPONS

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auuuuuuuugh

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give me a billhook

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fuck u game

red pollen
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My most used weapon is mark 6 heavy sword

ripe quest
red pollen
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Today was a crucis day

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Yesterday was a Rashad day

spare talon
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i mean sure rashad is good
but dclaw makes me feel like im good
ratio

red pollen
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Day before that was a crusher day

maiden path
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dclaw fucks too hard to use anything else

undone pewter
ripe quest
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mrw beb beb doesn't have the file space to install the weapons so he's just using the only one that fit on his 200 mb hard drive

maiden path
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that ones stale

red pollen
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I like plasma for one reason: I run mk2 tactical axe on veteran with full melee build and plasma can still do something with zero ranged upgrades and it’s quick to pull out for a kill to keep weapon specialist up

ripe quest
maiden path
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watch this

ripe quest
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funny little goober man in my computer

maiden path
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chad 150gb vs virgin 300tb

polar nexus
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does this affect loner too?

ripe quest
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Loner just locks your coherency regen to having 2 people minimum (50% regen).

maiden path
spare talon
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yes
assuming they fixed it from not doing anything

ripe quest
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So yes, it'd work. It's worse than a curio perk but it's something ig.

polar nexus
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wait, it used to do nothing? oO

maiden path
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this game needs a mace and shield

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just fucking port some vt2 movesets into darktide

ripe quest
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It would give you 1 frame of 25% toughness then it wouldn't do anything for the rest of the mission

spare talon
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it used to be bugged im pretty sure

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and i dont recall if they fixed it or not?

ripe quest
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They have.

polar nexus
red pollen
maiden path
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thats like 10x too big shield and mace

ripe quest
maiden path
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thats like riot shield and billy club

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just fucking port footknight over to darktide

red pollen
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You want a mace and shield so what you’re saying is you have a massive skill issue and want a board to help compensate it

maiden path
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i just wanna run through shit

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wait das just ogryn

maiden path
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can we scale ogryn down like 5x

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and give him krubers voice

maiden path
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i refuse to use a spear

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if we aint in kissing distance buddy then we aint fighting

undone pewter
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They could do a supression shield maybe for zealot?

polar nexus
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i want a spear

red pollen
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Im going to bed

polar nexus
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gn

maiden path
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ok supression shield would fuck though

red pollen
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The iq of this channel plummeted the second a Helldivers screenshot was posted

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Or video clip whatever

maiden path
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on some real shit

maiden path
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just give me a fucking giant sword and a shield dude

undone pewter
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Yeah I mean enforcers are mentioned surely they got one of those laying around

maiden path
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and i dont want some pussy heavy evis like they gave us

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that things too small

red pollen
spare talon
red pollen
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Favorite clip of the day will end the night watching that once more

spare talon
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what are they adding to the game
literally havent played since march

maiden path
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i want to play footknight in darktide

ripe quest
maiden path
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the fucking sound of shoulder bashing an absurd amount of rats is the best

ripe quest
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All beam weapons have a disabled burn application effect that I think would be really cool since fire does a lot of DPS.

maiden path
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ill never forget the chaos wastes match where i got my footknight recharge to 15 seconds

ripe quest
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("dataminers" have taken the liberty of falsely claiming it is enabled and thereby making my job harder)

undone pewter
maiden path
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all we have to do is wait 2 months for the crafting update

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then 2 more months for more weapons

ripe quest
undone pewter
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Now include the bad news

ripe quest
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I mean there's a couple things that are bad, only one that's a present issue though is whatever Sony is doing. I think it's just Steam trying to avoid legal issues though.

spare talon
ripe quest
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Balance issues are gonna be addressed, out of those listed weapons the only weapon I'd say got nerfed 'too much' was the Eruptor, but it seems that was due to an oversight.

undone pewter
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yeah game isn't available in 180 countries

spare talon
undone pewter
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no the erruptor (not a nerf but turns out to be an intended nerf even though the devs said otherwise) is working as intended

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crossbow sucks

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don't cat react me it was my favourite weapon

ripe quest
# spare talon sonys doing something else rn?

Sony tried to enforce PSN accounts, it was illegal to own them in a load of countries, Steam made those countries unable to purchase the game, Sony reverted it after 4.5 gajillion negative reviews appeared, Sony backpedalled. The aftermath is still being worked on.

ripe quest
undone pewter
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It got nerfed lol

ripe quest
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No shit

undone pewter
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They lowered its blast radius

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It's basically a regular crossbow now

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Anyway continuing on.
The BR is worse than the base assault rifle. The charge up plasma gun also sucks ass.

ripe quest
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The thing literally never ran out of ammo prior to the nerf, now it's a bit more reasonable w/ total damage and still has good ammo econ. The AoE is fine, nerfed yes but you still get multi-kills with it. It's functionally an Eruptor but it hits harder directly (nice for bots since explosions don't hit weakspots), it has twice the DPS, it has more ammo, and the main draws are the lower durable damage and projectile drop.

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The Tenderizer is an incredibly small sidegrade to the base Lib. Higher total, .6 less bullets per second. The recoil is nice but that's a lower skill curve thing, otherwise it's functionally the same weapon but uglier.

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Purifier is Punisher Plasma but if you want a straight firing shot and more ammo at the cost of going from 80 to 50 rpm. It's fun but boring, could use an actual scaling shot instead of just being an Arc Thrower.

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Pummeler is really fun though, the built-in EMS thing + the high stagger brings an interesting sidegrade at the cost of lower durable damage.

undone pewter
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I haven't got any complaints about the pummeler you're right it is really fun

ripe quest
undone pewter
ripe quest
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mrw the devs gave it a 10x higher ragdoll force than literally any other weapon

coarse birch
undone pewter
ripe quest
spare talon
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i was just loading into a mission and i opened a bottle of soda
and it fucking exploded
mostly directly at my face

coarse birch
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did you keep playing as a true gamer would

undone pewter
south folio
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another cole L

spare talon
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it was all over my shit, i cleaned it up

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but im still p[laying the mission

spare talon
ripe quest
coarse birch
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arco you look like an exploded soda bottle

south folio
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shout out to sugar-free soda for being easier to clean

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WOW

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rude

undone pewter
ripe quest
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It was out-competing support weapons for Charger kills. I don't like the nerf it got but it def needed a nerf.

coarse birch
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yeah ngl if spilled soda on my set up id cry

royal vortex
coarse birch
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hot

royal vortex
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what in the hell

coarse birch
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also why did i catch a stray there

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since when did you defend arco

royal vortex
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that wasnt a stray

coarse birch
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mankar would be dissapointed

royal vortex
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it was a deliberate threat

coarse birch
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hows that related to whether it was a stray or not

spare talon
coarse birch
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ngl everytime i have cream soda i dont notice the cream soda part

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maybe i need to have it on its own

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or something

royal vortex
coarse birch
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wait whats the context of your messagfe

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excuse me

royal vortex
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it is a mystery

spare talon
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chick fil a?

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and josho just making it gay prolly

coarse birch
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well that would be josho making it blantantly not gay

royal vortex
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known homosexualizer josho

ripe quest
# undone pewter Then why didn't they lead with that. Instead we got "Oh it'll be *buffed* after ...

The public reasoning was that the 1.5k damage thing was viewed as an exploit, shrapnel was hitting for too much if you could hit right. So, they saw that + the community complaining about ricochets and it actually being Eruptor shrapnel and they removed shrapnel. It sounded like they were trying to put it into the spot that they thought it should be at, then buffing it from that to compensate for the 'exploiting'

coarse birch
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known women respecter josho

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how had i never seen this screen shot

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oh cause its old

royal vortex
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i do not post it often

coarse birch
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07/23

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before i was born

royal vortex
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but it is very powerful

coarse birch
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mankar once told me im the closest thing hes ever had to a mother

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i think about this often

royal vortex
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what

spare talon
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where did mankar go
havent seen him in a while

ripe quest
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Right now the Eruptor is more of a giga-big boom primary that is bot focused, which feels reasonable since the Crossbow hits the DPS BPs to actually get value out of it being an explosive weapon (ie good for bugs)

coarse birch
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hes around just in DT cord less

royal vortex
coarse birch
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seems pretty clear to me

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i think it was me him and skele or something

royal vortex
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horrific

ripe quest
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I personally think they should've just made the shrapnel do far less damage then cap the distance it goes or give it a 0% friendly fire mod. It was an interesting idea.

south folio
undone pewter
ripe quest
coarse birch
royal vortex
spare talon
royal vortex
coarse birch
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"you people"

ripe quest
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Also I'm doubtful that they'll ever let OG Eruptor back, shit was like upwards of 50k total damage.

coarse birch
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I APPRECIATED IT

south folio
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what a nice mother-son relationship between two men in their 20s

ornate bone
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lmao

royal vortex
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please

south folio
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ok

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i'll take screenshots of it

royal vortex
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u shithead

ornate bone
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that needs pinned

undone pewter
coarse birch
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or maybe it wsa

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idk

south folio
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i'm glad you're having doubts

coarse birch
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i thought it was a nice comment

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maybe the bar is too low

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mankar did get a little sad after i said that

ripe quest
south folio
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a nice comment in context but of out context it is really funny

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i had to say what i said

coarse birch
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yeah out of context

south folio
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as god's agent, i was compelled by a holy force to make that comment

coarse birch
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i can seeit

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although one thing you failed to think about arco

undone pewter
coarse birch
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is that you are married to both mankar and josho so what does that make me

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althogh skele says im married to josho

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idk how it goes anymore

ripe quest
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idk if it's my like 600 hours of not giving a shit about good items in Darktide but I enjoy the relative spot weaopns are in rn. Some stuff needs a change, Breaker Incendiary is a good example of something too strong and the Dagger is an example of something far too weak.

south folio
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wtf is this hidden lore

coarse birch
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laz mentioned that you 3 are married

south folio
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oh i think i remember this a bit

coarse birch
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but skele said me and josho are married so it probably depends who you ask

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although mankar isnt involved in one

royal vortex
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this is the worst polyamorous relationship ever

south folio
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who's up to sketch up the relationship chart

coarse birch
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well it wouldnt be hard

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technically

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only 2 things to keep track of

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unless you were counting the mother son part

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that adds a bit more

south folio
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🙂

coarse birch
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wheres my MS paint at

south folio
#

throw in terms like "abuser" and "victim"

coarse birch
#

wait how do i differentiate the skele timeline

coarse birch
ripe quest
# undone pewter I'm talking about how buggy the game is there though. Their QA department is so ...

I mean we were talking about balance here, I gave my opinion on how they're handling balance. The bugs should be handled first and foremost, people can't enjoy the Spear or Arc Thrower (even though Arc Thrower and Blitzer hardly have issues) and it's been like that for a long while. The DoT bug nearly envoloped two releases of DoT grenades like wtf.

But with their dev team it feels like this will be a post-patch thing more than a preventative one, they have literally anyone they can get QAing stuff sometimes.

coarse birch
#

actually how do i want to make this

south folio
#

and thus yoshi's life begins to spiral out of control

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just label every arrow coming from josho as "abuser"

undone pewter
# ripe quest I mean we were talking about balance here, I gave my opinion on how they're hand...

I get what you mean and obviously balance and bug fixing are usually separate it's just they bleed together with the erruptor thing. Them buffing fire damage three times even though the DoT bug was the problem (a bug the community reported for nearly a month before AH acknowledged it) making hulks one-shot you if they even look at you funny and the spear not even being functioning enough to consider a competitor.

Then there's stuff like the airburst rocket and it makes balance discussions hard with the sheer amount of things that don't function.

spiral anvil
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I've talked to fans who say AH has seen the errors of their ways and are going to stop top down balancing

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But jury's still out on that

undone pewter
#

Again I gotta see it to believe it.

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For now I'll hold no opinions one way or the other

spiral anvil
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Maybe they actually will boot up the game and start playing

undone pewter
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But I will jest about the balance patch in 3 weeks that nerfs the tenderiser

spiral anvil
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Nah incin breaker and fire grenades the first to go

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Because primaries are not meant for killing enemies

undone pewter
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You know again I'll give arrowhead the benefit of the doubt for most bugs. Coding is complicated.

Okay but for real the ship module upgrade that literally didn't work? How did you launch it like that it takes under a minute to test it. Infact community members reported it not working 5 minutes after the patch came out.

Like WHAT???

ember yew
undone pewter
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Hey we don't want genshin surveys we'd like changes within the next 6 months

ember yew
undone pewter
#

Don't worry Travellers we're putting everything but artefact loadouts in

ember yew
#

The fact that Genshin does not care a bit about those feedbacks is another story.

maiden path
#

genshin impact fans found in my zealot chat

spiral anvil
#

They have the issue that their mega fans have invested life savings into the characters

maiden path
#

more likely then u'd thinkl

spiral anvil
#

So they can't just nerf shit KEKW_ogryn

undone pewter
#

Unless China gets really mad

ember yew
# spiral anvil They have the issue that their mega fans have invested life savings into the cha...

The gacha mechanics are aimed at those people, who can't control themselves, sadly, even my IRL friend got captured in this scam.
Back in 2021, Genshin did not have a guarantee for a weapon, and my friend spent around 2500$ USD for Hu Tao weapon and DIDN'T GET ONE. (He got 16 other weapons, which means he lost 16 times 50% chance in a row)
Gacha is essentialy a pure scam and mihoyo is one of the worsest gachas out there, despite the Genshin being a quality game in terms of story.

undone pewter
#

Lmfao it is the struggle why is the gacha games story so fucking good lmfao

spiral anvil
#

It's just gacha

undone pewter
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I haven't spent any money on Genshin. I resisted the urge.

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I am a patient man.

ember yew
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Yeah, but many people can't so it is what it is KEKW_ogryn

spiral anvil
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You don't need to spend to enjoy the story anyway, afaik

undone pewter
#

No but having a well built neuvilette certainly helps

iron seal
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I gotta get my idol penance, any good builds out there that uses it with martyrdom

ember yew
#

After playing Genshin for 3+ years, i certainly don't want to experience the game with Kekeya, Amber, Lisa and random Traveler element as a core team.

undone pewter
undone pewter
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Fucking unbelievable hoyoverse news. Harmony trailblazer in honkai is good and even viable???

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They made MC GOOD

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I gotta finish the honkai story stuff it's like 8 hours long

ember yew
#

also, it seems Ghost of Tsushima is also banned in 120+ countries, which i did expect to happen

spare talon
#

i played genshin for like 8 hours
realized i wasnt having the slightest bit of fun

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then stopped

ember yew
#

withmandatory PSN account

spiral anvil
#

Nice

ember yew
#

they won't sell a part of the game

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despite the singleplayer NOT requiring psn

spiral anvil
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Cross play is a feature tho

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And I'm sure there's way to enjoy it without psn

spare talon
#

also when is fatshark gonna make their game stable again
my game reliably crashes at either the start or end screen of missions, nowhere else, every few missions
and its been this way since the PoR update

ember yew
#

but that could not work in some cases

spiral anvil
#

Ive had out of memory a few times

ember yew
ripe quest
# undone pewter I get what you mean and obviously balance and bug fixing are usually separate it...

mm, with Eruptor I don't think it featured a bug outside of the firerate tech you could do. You could exploit the shrapnel, which was an oversight not a bug. Fire was buffed once by 50%, then nerfed by 15%, then got a stratagem exclusive buff by 25% (currently is at 63 base damage per tick w/ the upgrade, 50 without). I see what you mean though, some weapons have been buggy and showed signs of little playtesting. Spear is thankfully getting a fix soon, making it more accessable to those who don't want to learn the weird tech.

spare talon
ember yew
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im at 29 mods and 6700 XT (23.3.1) and works perfectly

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the old amd drivers did caused some huge issues for me in 2023

spare talon
#

im currently up to date on those too

spiral anvil
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might be game settings

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my stuff is on med/high

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no bloom

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etc

feral cairn
#

hey gang whats the best blessings for the combat blade?

spiral anvil
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uncanny and anything

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riposte good

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precog good

feral cairn
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lol I gotcha

spiral anvil
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just not lacerate

feral cairn
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is flesh tearer worth building around w/ mercy kill?

spiral anvil
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flesh tearer is good

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mercy kill is weaker than precog

feral cairn
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cool ok

spiral anvil
#

the 60% finesse damage on dodge

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since that includes both weakpoint AND crit damage

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mercy killer only weakpoint

feral cairn
#

That does seem great actually, I just havent rolled it yet

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Ruthless backstab any good? I've been using it + flesh on my steath vet

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But it sounds like uncanny is just better

south folio
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pretty much

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could go for ruthless if you like the vibe but optimality-wise uncanny is better yeah

feral cairn
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I think ill swap it out. I'm fully in the combat blade church right now

south folio
#

i personally like to run uncanny strike + riposte, since the relative improvement from Precognition is reduced whenever Duellist (dodge talent) is up

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and i like the higher uptime on riposte and consistency since crit bps are nice

feral cairn
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20% is impressive on the dodge

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I need to try it out. I do like the bleed stax though

south folio
#

i haven't checked the BPs on uncanny + riposte but i'd wager that i would probably hit more consistent BPs with riposte

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if you like bleed, you might opt for riposte + flesh tearer, as long as you're willing to give up uncanny strike

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since the knife has rather disproportionate benefits from crits, one of which is bumping up the good armour damage modifiers that mitigate the need for uncanny strike

coarse birch
#

i find riposte to be nicer due to its more lenient and also knife is weighted harder into crits than headshots

feral cairn
#

ah I did not know that

coarse birch
#

although both are ideal

south folio
#

but giving up uncanny strike also means giving up some degenerate interactions

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e.g., uncanny strike + throwing knives

feral cairn
#

I keep telling myself im waiting for the crafting rework to start rolling again lmao

feral cairn
coarse birch
#

tknives interact with most blessings

south folio
#

but if you want a blessing pairing that has bleed, i personally recommend riposte + fleshtearer

ember yew
#

and got cucked by using the available resources

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but im not sure if they will come back after

feral cairn
#

its worn me out too

ivory marlin
#

guys

south folio
#

yeah i despise the current crafting system

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hopefully they're cooking something nicer

ivory marlin
#

im legaly an adult in 8 minutes

south folio
#

congrats

feral cairn
#

hell yeah happy early bday

ivory marlin
#

thank you all

coarse birch
#

nice

ivory marlin
#

im going gambling in 7 hours

ember yew
feral cairn
#

NICE

south folio
#

this is so tragic

ivory marlin
#

lmao

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not my money unless i win tho

feral cairn
#

you cant buy tobacco anymore right

south folio
#

is it a joke or like a family trip to las vegas or what

storm crypt
feral cairn
#

I remember they changed that the year i turned 19 I was so mad

ivory marlin
#

my moms idea

south folio
#

what a good parent

ember yew
south folio
#

starting your child young

feral cairn
storm crypt
#

not quite but still a lot

ember yew
#

well thats close enough

storm crypt
#

i think 400 of those hours are zealot

south folio
#

if only this was the future where your parents could have introduced genshin impact to you young

ivory marlin
feral cairn
#

imagine what could have been 😢

storm crypt
#

im really hoping for a 2h weapon that isn't a chain weapon man, thematically cool but they all feel like poop to use to me

south folio
#

2h sword 2h sword

storm crypt
#

especially as a martyrdom main i wanna attack fast!!! stop making me do a 2 second long attack!!

south folio
#

as a psyker main i advocate for the 2h force sword and will tell every other human class to suck it

ivory marlin
#

then my brother hit 21 and then she never bought any more scartches just heading to vegas or wendover

feral cairn
#

I'd say 2/3 of this is ogryn but rookie numbers

storm crypt
#

i still think its very funny there's a 2h power sword

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and it will be even funnier if it really is a vet only weapon

ivory marlin
storm crypt
#

because the power sword is already heavy weapon stats in mobility lmao, that thing will make you so slow if it's on vet

feral cairn
#

escape while you caaan

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I'd be up for any 2H weapon honestly

ember yew
south folio
#

it really does make you wonder how they're going to diversify the 1h and 2h

feral cairn
#

ogryn 2H would be a sight to see

storm crypt
#

there was a "Power Falchion" referred to in one of the patches

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i think this is just going to be the power sword, but for zealot

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the "same thing", but a separate weapon so it can be easily balanced for zealot

ivory marlin
#

should i use the birthday money i already got and open tf2 crates

storm crypt
#

bc if you just, gave zealots power swords they would have a weapon of mass destruction lmao

feral cairn
#

crates are fun but if you get bad rolls youre gonna hate yourself

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no unusuals for u

#

get a game or something id say

ivory marlin
storm crypt
#

if you want to gamble in tf2 just do tour of duty you get to play the game and gamble at the same time

ivory marlin
#

i opened a strange the other day for pyro

storm crypt
#

buy my $70 flame thrower thanks

feral cairn
#

im still rocking my nuts n bolts christmas tree i unboxed in middle school. its hideous

ivory marlin
south folio
ivory marlin
#

my pyro drip is strange tho

feral cairn
#

i should do more tour of duties, agreed

ivory marlin
#

i like my scout and engi drip more

tranquil summit
storm crypt
#

zealot dueling sword would be crazy

coarse birch
#

arco you need to stop cooking

south folio
#

i did some napkin math and zealot would be able to hit ds4 crusher one-shots and without unreasonable buffs

storm crypt
#

i feel like i have one of the most cooked takes and its that zealot has the worst weapons of all the classes

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like ive been playing ogryn for penance completion

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the mk5 shovel just one-shots things with flip

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and the flip doesn't have a timer

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anmd i have to give a crusher backshots three times with a martyrdom hammer

tranquil summit
humble dome
#

I also use the shovel on ogryn pretty busted

south folio
#

you get a taste of the duelling sword with the knife which is still especially good on zealot because you can rack up a lot of average crit chance
but having the duelling sword itself would be nice

storm crypt
#

vet mk6 power sword can also just charge > push attack > light > light

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oh look dead crusher

south folio
#

zealot's weapons are good but it's just that psyker has a better combat blade, and vet's powersword has absurd generalist damage output

storm crypt
#

(also they can cleave through 5 armored units with that energized cleave blessing but we dont talk about that)

humble dome
#

And when i play marty zealot i use the axe catsmirk

storm crypt
#

i use the axe too, it's serviceable but man its just like

#

can i have the ogryn shovel?

#

please?

tranquil summit
#

power sword overrated

humble dome
#

Would be cool

tranquil summit
#

poopscooper based

storm crypt
#

ALSO i want to be a devils claw user so bad

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but you just have like next to no anti-armor capability if you use one

#

unless you want to use a boltgun and take 5 years to pull it out and someone will kill it before you do

ember yew
humble dome
#

😂😂

ember yew
#

i was running my vet penances and oneshotting everything with revolver

#

poor zilotto shoot a lot at dead bodies

storm crypt
#

i had it happen when i was doing my lucky bullet penance, i see big hordes and im like "aw ye time to let it rip"

humble dome
#

And having no grenades against armour

tranquil summit
#

ya bolter needs support and revolve needs nerf

storm crypt
#

other ogryn throws a frag bomb

#

but ye zealot feels like a good class, but their weapons, for some reason, are just a notch below everyone elses

tranquil summit
storm crypt
#

other than the combat blade, really

#

that one is pretty good

humble dome
#

Well zealots got something that other classes don't have

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Zoomies

tranquil summit
#

thunder hammer is rad tho

storm crypt
#

it upsets me that vet and ogryn both have rending on their tree but zealots don't get any

humble dome
#

I love zoomies

storm crypt
#

technically they get the charges (idr the name) thing that reduces the armor level by 1

#

but it's a single hit

humble dome
#

You can run behind ogryn or vet for killing the 10 crushers 😂

storm crypt
#

so not particularly useful on weapons that need rending

#

honestly give every weapon uncanny strike

#

i solved the problem

south folio
#

for psword, my guess is just that they were afraid to nerf it too much because they got reviewbombed for a milquetoast nerf to the pswords previously
and a combination of the psword getting really nice features without getting a nerf together

south folio
#

so you can just ult and spray n pray crushers

coarse birch
#

yeah im guessing psword was them being careful

storm crypt
#

the power swords are still pretty balanced imo

#

that thing is like

south folio
#

absolutely not

storm crypt
#

-20%? dodge speed at highest mobility

#

you are squimshy

ivory marlin
#

id say i can legally join the military now but im type 1 diabetic so i cant

storm crypt
#

but of course, the power of something rises exponentially in the hands of good players

south folio
#

the mobility doesn't matter much in a game where there is a mechanic similar to melee i-frames

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and weapon specialist completely negates the dodges

coarse birch
#

you shit out way too much damage for it to matter and vet has stuff to make the mobility less ass

storm crypt
#

oh yeah i forget about their keystones

#

i haven't messed with them yet

south folio
#

if dodges were less free and good, i'd agree

coarse birch
#

BM in particular just mitigates any threats in melee

#

also shout

south folio
#

but they're just too good for short-distance dodges to be a meaningful downside

storm crypt
#

also -

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yeah i was about to say

#

when i learned that shouts temporary toughness is actually like

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10 seconds of just constantly generating temp toughness

#

it amazes me that some veterans with shout even go down

tranquil summit
#

4 shouties

south folio
#

and 100% toughness regen on the initial activation

coarse birch
#

and short cooldown

humble dome
#

Ehh maybe they learn the game or haven't played in a long time it happens

storm crypt
#

yeah it's fair enough

#

some people at like level 300+ get a side eye from me though

#

you definitely should know that game at that point lol

#

shout is very competitive as an ability though it's cool

#

i feel like infiltrate just sucks in comparison to shout and executioners stance

south folio
#

i dislike stealth but stealth is inevitably quite good

#

and it's still 100% toughness regen if you decide to use it as a frontline ability

ivory marlin
#

noita time

humble dome
#

Yeah i use shout on vet its almost impossible to go down with such low cd and so much tgh

storm crypt
#

i used it a little and it supresses in a huge area, but you're out of position now and shout can generate infinite toughness to break the line and executioners stance will just let you kill them

humble dome
#

But still i love zealot much more

#

Marty + until death and dashing x2 much love

storm crypt
#

its very good as a revive tool but planning for the worst case scenario kinda stinks imo

#

having a tool for the occasion is nice but

ember yew
storm crypt
#

speaking of, the talent that veteran has that's like, +20% revive/assist speed and +20?% movement speed to disabled allies + stun immunity is so funny

#

im literally an ambulance

#

+30% revive/assist speed on my curios, +20% from talents, c'mon buddy i got better than revive shout

storm crypt
#

it doesn't have a cooldown

#

my build can take it but i dont remember what my build is

#

but yeah i have outran a knife zealot to a downed ally it was very funny

ember yew
#

would be nice if 10% res also applied to rescues and not just downed targets

#

not like that would be OP or gamebreaking

tranquil summit
#

shout is good. its from vermintide, made whc and merc quite strong. feels ok to have in dtide without being mandatory.

humble dome
#

And the vet stealth is much better than zealot one

storm crypt
#

merc kruber was silly

#

halberd that kills everything

ember yew
#

and not 3+3 with one point

#

well he didn't get damage increase like zealot one

tranquil summit
#

i miss hagbane

ember yew
#

and friendly fire

humble dome
#

Ogryns would be dead 24/7 if friendly fire was on

ember yew
distant galleon
tranquil summit
#

most ppl would be dead most of the time with ff tbh, MUCH more firepower in dtide

storm crypt
#

think this was my stinky vet tree

#

turbo melee guy

ember yew
#

yeah thats why theres none of this here

#

psykers would be a bane

tranquil summit
#

other than like dwarf gunner vtide is a whacky wacky game

storm crypt
#

i use the rashad on vet, feels pretty alright

storm crypt
#

i hope they pull in the last 2 staves we're missing from vt2

humble dome
storm crypt
#

bolt and beam staves

tranquil summit
#

i do miss bolt

ember yew
#

its basically zealot

#

with shout

#

and less attack speed

storm crypt
#

yeah, it's zealot at home for sure

#

but it's comfortable enough

#

bringing survivalist will make a lot of people happy

ember yew
#

i need a different rashad tho

#

on this one unarmoured is locked

#

i want either carapace

#

unyelding

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or maniac

#

unaurmoured is wasted since melee damage is already higher than needed per swing (in my build)

humble dome
#

Yesterday i was pretty lucky i crafted an rashad with 25 carapace / 25 flak . Thrust 4 and limbsplitter 3 or whatever is called and decent stats 375 and i can change 1 more perk or bless

ember yew
#

you can just change to headtaker4/BM4

humble dome
#

Yeah i was thinking about that but i don't have those damn t4 only the crit one

ember yew
#

25% carapace gives one less hit on crushers

ember yew
#

they are like

#

2-3% apart

humble dome
#

Well i have all of them in t3 so is good

ember yew
humble dome
#

I'll give it a try when i'll be home

#

Thanks

ivory marlin
#

@zealous basin should i get hunt?

#

2$ short

#

rip

zinc talon
ivory marlin
#

orki

#

are you on helldivers rn

zealous basin
#

why wont steam let me give u my $2

ivory marlin
#

damn

zinc talon
polar nexus
humble dome
#

Average zealot chat AYAYASMAS 😂😂

ember yew
#

i deleted it (after doing the penance)

#

nothing unusual though

onyx lodge
#

still cant make pics to see if i got a good flame gun

#

boo

clear knot
#

win+shift+S

ivory marlin
ivory marlin
#

i did however refund a steam game a bit ago so once i get that money back ill get hunt

ember yew
#

Sony just banned Ghost of Tsushima from being sold.
180 countries literally got banned from buying the game.

#

oh wait, it's 180, not 120

#

also

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There are 195 recognised countries in the world, according to the United Nations. 193 of these are member states of the UN, while two countries are non-member observer states: Vatican City and the State of Palestine.

zinc talon
#

typing on my wrist keyboard, with the hand it's strapped to

#

get on my level

frozen ibex
ivory marlin
#

okri why arent we friends on steam

zealous basin
#

how is the chili pepper such a goated fruit

#

so varied

#

so versatile

#

so unique

#

absolute god tier culinary item truly

#

taken for granted on god

vocal pulsar
#

Just busy with work

#

Taking a break from darktide till next patch drops

cloud hornet
#

What curios are good nowadays? I'd assume that zealots want the toughness blessing on them with +toughness and tougness regen for perks

ember yew
vocal pulsar
#

No toughness Regen

#

Sounds good, but isn't too useful for zealot, due to the reason Evan mentioned above

jagged aspen
#

whats good on the columnus 5

ember yew
jagged aspen
#

cheers

south folio
ember yew
vocal pulsar
ripe quest
#

@ivory pumice Your durable damage is wrong for the Lib Concussive.

ivory pumice
#

I feel like this is the wrong place to ping me lol

ripe quest
#

I'm not in the Helldivers server, I was lurking for info and saw your spreadsheet.

#

Do they not have a dataminer there?

ivory pumice
#

but ya, seems so

ripe quest
#

smh

ivory pumice
ripe quest
#

So true weapon stats are off the table there? Seems a bit odd.

ivory pumice
#

technically yes, but like I said, the mods tend to let it slide

ripe quest
#

I see

ivory pumice
#

datamining is general is banned, since there's a lot of story stuff, and naturally people don't want to get spoiled out of the blue with no warning
and that's fairly reasonable IMO

ripe quest
#

That makes sense yeah.

#

Here are those stats. Currently collecting enemy health values so it doesn't have demo or stagger yet.

ivory pumice
ripe quest
#

That site has incorrect info, I've been trying to contact them.

ivory pumice
#

you've been pulling the numbers yourself?

ripe quest
#

Yes, I have a steam guide up w/ this stuff. I'm using custom weapons for HP benchmarks and pulling damage IDs for everything.

ivory pumice
#

shit, you should join the leaks discord

frosty herald
#

i trust exhil with this stuff

ivory pumice
#

if you're on reddit, you should be able to contact the guy who made the spreadsheet with a DM, or ask through one of the discords

ripe quest
#

I want my stuff to be accessible, so I'm only posting it on Steam. Once HP values are setup and I have everything laid out I'll throw it at reddit or smth. It's been a frustrating process since I've known about a good number of mechanics but I wait too long to post it since I want to test it, only for other people to post it first.

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I only have the website, no clue what the guy's reddit is.

#

like, demo stagger and ragdoll force were fun to find out only for someone 3 hours prior to include it in their spreadsheet. Then the spreadsheet has wrong info about weapons and other mechanics

ivory pumice
ripe quest
#

"If Lib Pen has a higher headshot multipler than Liberator, why isn't it doing more damage to Helldiver heads?" 💀

ivory pumice
#

yeah, that's a bit of a lol reference to a much older reddit thread, since proven false
funnily enough it's still a huge source of misinformation lmao, people still come in yapping about headshot damage regularly

ember yew
#

Did the penguins

#

really deserve the ban

acoustic dune
#

Fuck I miss

ripe quest
frosty herald
#

if i see red hitmarker i headshot ezpz

acoustic dune
#

Question

royal vortex
#

answer

acoustic dune
#

If blessing as a pro and con kinda thing

#

Would that be interesting

ember yew
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no, since its fatshark

acoustic dune
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Elaborate

frosty herald
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you mean cursed weapons?

ember yew
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you'l get +10% weakspot damage and -50% sprint speed

royal vortex
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you'd have to basically design a game from the ground up to work like that

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i don't think you could reasonably implement it with the current system and not make people angry

stable cypress
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Ah yes people loved old limbsplitter

ripe quest
# ivory pumice this was the post from a few days ago <https://www.reddit.com/r/Helldivers/comme...

Here's my guide, has some stuff as a WIP because I can't hold back info for larger releases without looking like I plagiarized. https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3221849493

SUBJECT: H.D.I.A. Declassified Weapons and High-Priority-Target debrief
Currently includes: True Weapon Stats, Enemy Efficiencies, Basic Terminid Stats
P# 1.000.303
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ivory pumice
ripe quest
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I mean it's just the damage IDs and spreadsheet math

acoustic dune
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God I want more bleed stack

ember yew
ivory pumice
frosty herald
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with uncanny

acoustic dune
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I run bleed on my knife for the crit chance

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And to zoom

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God I wish I could run as fast or more then a mutant

ripe quest
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some undervalue fire too, 50 base 25 durable isn't the per second damage.

ivory pumice
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ha
well, rest assured, there are certainly a lot of people interesting in an all-in-one guide like this
tbh something as comprehensive as this would get passed around faster than you could say "liberty"

steep ginkgo
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Just got this, thinking of swapping out Rev it Up and Melee Damage for Momentum and Flak ? Using on a wound zealot

acoustic dune
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Oh btw I heard darktide change bombef fire damage

ember yew
ivory pumice
acoustic dune
ember yew
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like in a 1.5 seconds

ripe quest
acoustic dune
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(The reason I stop running a pure toughness build)

steep ginkgo
acoustic dune
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I wish I can throw knife while using the funny relic aura

steep ginkgo
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I don't read into meta, I just throw together and see what happens 😄

ember yew
ripe quest
ivory pumice
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fair

acoustic dune
acoustic dune
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Like who res someone in a pile of fire

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Man couldn't wait

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Anyhow I need to do some auric run when I can

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Any title to get btw?

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Like a funny title

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Smth like the rat man

safe glade
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worth buying from melk?

acoustic dune
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Or smth

ripe quest
# ivory pumice fair

I probably have controversial takes on balance but it's like, so funny seeing a guy claim the Dagger performs better than the Explosive Crossbow. Not even a single person, it pops up multiple times. The reason I stumbled across that site you linked was due to the listings of beam weapons igniting enemies (it doesn't), someone was saying that the Dagger was a pocket Flamer.

acoustic dune
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Just wait the shop