#zealot-class

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spare talon
maiden path
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god fucke halo odst is the best halo

misty mason
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Halo mid

spare talon
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me wanting to play normal board damnation for silly matches with newer players vs me needing to complete 250 auric missions for penances

misty mason
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I just want them to rebalance the krak penance so I can stop playing vet

inner shale
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What is Fury for the zealot class? the penance says i need to kill 2000 enemies while in Fury

spare talon
inner shale
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can someone tell me how to play zealot because ive only played ogryn and veteran since this game has launched and ive been trying to do these penances on zealot but i just keep getting killed when trying to go into melee all the time to force some of these penances to count

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just throwing myself into games to die at this point

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not sure if i just need to play at a lower difficulty on zealot since im not use to it or what ive always played on heresy or damnation

leaden pebble
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in my experience zealot has been the easiest to play

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but i am a melee andy

misty mason
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Take rashad with brutal momentum and headtaker/decimator
Run a crit+crit CDR + fury chastise build
Hit things in the head

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Weep over all the time wasted playing inferior classes

leaden pebble
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xv eviscerator + m1 = profit

misty mason
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Worth taking revenant as well for the save your life mechanic

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But for real though, I used to not enjoy zealot very much, until I got the right weapon builds

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Then it became my favourite

inner shale
misty mason
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Rashad works for pretty much every penance build

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I don't think I ever switched

inner shale
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what is Rashad?

misty mason
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Except for Thammer on backstab for awhile, but that wasnt as good

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Its a combat axe

spare talon
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i think theyre asking for like actual gameplay advice and not just build suggestions

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cuz no build will work if you cant play well

inner shale
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^

rocky marsh
misty mason
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I mean, they are somewhat one in the same

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If you are running a poorly built weapon on zealot especially, you're gonna have a bad time

rocky marsh
inner shale
rocky marsh
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its easy to reach the skill required but hard to do good theorycrafting

inner shale
leaden pebble
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im awful at teaching but like
practice makes perfect
the hours i have in vermintide definitely carry over when it comes to melee

spare talon
leaden pebble
spare talon
misty mason
leaden pebble
misty mason
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Heavy Swords are probably the easiest weapon to build, so maybe start with that

inner shale
spare talon
rocky marsh
inner shale
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Flamer a good weapon?

misty mason
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AH true, crusher is easy to build. Hsword is very simple to use tho

leaden pebble
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i mean i play heresy with gray weapons that are sub 300 and they seem to do plenty enough damage

misty mason
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Flamer is pretty good yeah

spare talon
# inner shale ^

i feel like if youre struggling to play zealot, what youre actually struggling with is your melee fundamentals

tropic pelican
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vt2 fundamentals still work here

misty mason
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I'd probably not recommend it if you're unfamiliar though

tropic pelican
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get into the rhythm of side-dodging while you do your combos

misty mason
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As shooters are often what gets you

tropic pelican
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push for extra control

misty mason
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And flamer is more anti horde

rocky marsh
tropic pelican
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dodge slide or sprint slide to get around without being shot

rocky marsh
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things just don't make sense

misty mason
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A solid and easy to build weapon is the Columnus or Agri Infantry Autogun

rocky marsh
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when i made my own build everything makes sense

inner shale
misty mason
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Revolver is probably our best ranged weapon at the moment, but you need a particular build

spare talon
tropic pelican
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🤔

rocky marsh
leaden pebble
inner shale
rocky marsh
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veteran melee actually much safer than zealot imo

misty mason
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Thunderhammer is one of our harder weapons to use, and literally the hardest to build

inner shale
spare talon
rocky marsh
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@spare talon also i kind of feel knowing stuff like how to abuse twbs is part of theorycrafting, but i guess debatable

misty mason
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I'd strongly recommend a Hsword

leaden pebble
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ix heavy sword, ii/xv evis, and 3g chainsword are the ones ive used and are all amazing

misty mason
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Get one with Headtaker

royal vortex
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if you want something safe in melee and easy to build nothing outdoes a crusher

spare talon
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yeah thats what i was sayin

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crusher is just the safety stick, if youre a beginner

misty mason
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I've barely used the crusher, but these two are super dorks, so believe them

spare talon
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but also has plenty of depth to it for you to dig into, and you may fall down that rabbit hole

rocky marsh
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proceeding opinion is trash and a joke:
Rashad best beginner stick because no skill required unlike crusher and easy to hit BPs, all you have to do is left click. only gatekeep is you have to build good rashad.

inner shale
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how do you farm for good weapons ive pretty much gone and used up all my money in game at this point lol

royal vortex
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rng

tropic pelican
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also if you're not level 30, get to level 30

misty mason
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Yeah there's not much to it other than getting to 30 and praying

royal vortex
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don't upgrade something to gold if you have 3 shit perks/blessings

inner shale
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gotcha

leaden pebble
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evis xv has been the easiest thing to use ever imo
spam light into horde and rev heavy literally annihilates any ogryn enemy and does good damage to bosses

royal vortex
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i see a lot of people do this and it's very sad because ur wasting so much plasteel every time u do it

misty mason
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Yeah general advice is stop at blue when upgrading a base

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Unless you get at least 1 good blessing/perk

royal vortex
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going to purple has increased odds of a decent outcome if you have 2 shit blessings but im at the point where the bottleneck is the stat rolls that i want and not trying to get one with decent blessings

misty mason
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You can go to purple, but id only do that when youre flush

rocky marsh
misty mason
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Definitely prioritise melee

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You can run an IAG with any blessings so long as it has good stats and still do well

rocky marsh
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yeah priortize whatever is your main source of damage
for psyker if you are running staff its going to be your staff of course.

leaden pebble
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i threw 10% dockets on all my curios and im just gonna save millions for the crafting rework lmao

royal vortex
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i have like 8 million ordos and 200-something thousand plasteel

rocky marsh
spare talon
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im at like 22m dockets and 315k plasteel lmao

royal vortex
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i can never build another crucis

spare talon
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and over 100k melkbux

royal vortex
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the one i have is sacred zealot chat lore

rocky marsh
royal vortex
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no idea

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ballpark: a lot

leaden pebble
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im still new
so i only have 500k dockets
and a few thousand of the other stuff

royal vortex
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many people were jealous of my immaculate 19% defenses

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the tasteful dump stat

misty mason
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God roll thammer is the zealot pilgrimage

rocky marsh
royal vortex
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its like push and sprint cost really

spiral anvil
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Block cost

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Wait not even block cost

rocky marsh
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so what your stat is 80* and then 19?

misty mason
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What it does is get dumped

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There is a man I keep seeing that always has a pair of headphones on but with face masks over the earholes

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I dont understand why

spiral anvil
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Face mask over the earholes wtfgryn

misty mason
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Yeah thats my reaction too

spiral anvil
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I suppose it's to prevent sweat from getting onto the earpads...?

misty mason
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Yeah maybe

inner shale
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this is my flamer any idea what i should change other than the obvious crit chance lol

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or does crit work with the flamer

spare talon
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I don't really use flamer but my opinion would be changing carapace to flak and fan the flames to blaze away

ember yew
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carapace is ok to melt crusher hordes

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with chastice

spare talon
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Crit basically has no damage scaling and is bad damage wise since it only applies to the hit that applies the burn, but it does apply 2 stacks of burn instead of one when it does

ember yew
spare talon
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5% is really fucking small tho
But it would do you better than carapace unless you're running chastise to downgrade armor

ember yew
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it should be 10% at least

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to even consider using it

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and even that would be kinda average

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since you are just adding a small RNG element

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and that's it

spare talon
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yeah the flamer roll is great stats wise
and literally only 1 good blessing, and its only good cuz the one that would be better doesnt even work

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everything else is just ehhh
but flamer really just needs blaze away and good stats honestly
everything else is just a bonus

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and you already meet the very high stat thresholds like 76% burn

zealous basin
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ay mustard on the beat ho

rocky marsh
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i swear this week i see people i haveb;t see in months coming back,
or maybe i just hvent been reading zealot chat

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dis came back, flup is now here

inner shale
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ok yeah weapons make so much of a difference on zealot went with the heavy chain sword

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rocky marsh
inner shale
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curious why to disable all that stuff any reason?

ember yew
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Teamscore is kinda useless, Total Score is kinda butchered by Team Score, but Offense Score is fine (at least it's kinda working), but you can figure that out from damage done/boss damage done/special/elites/disablers killed.

inner shale
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ah ok

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I just started modding darktide so im a bit new on it

ember yew
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im using this original scoreboard too, you dont need ovenproof

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ovenproof tho gives info on how much bleed damage you did for example

rocky marsh
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imo ovenproof breaks things down better and also show you crit rate

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inner shale
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ohhh ok nice

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so how do you disable the stuff you said?

rocky marsh
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e.g. "elite kills" doesn't tell you much on original scoreboard
but usually on zealot i will get highest ranged elite, but less melee elite

inner shale
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in the setting i see offense tier 0 1 2 3

rocky marsh
rocky marsh
inner shale
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yeah i noticed that

true kindle
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so what does perfect strike do exactly on the evis?

spare talon
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it ignores the additional hitmass that armor gets, basically just treating it as an unarmored enemy

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allowing you to cleave through flak better, and swing through crushers as if the laws of physics dont exist

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but thats literally all it does

true kindle
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ok so this is a viable roll?

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spare talon
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it doesnt give you any more damage

stable cypress
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yeah thats totally fine

true kindle
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doing the piety/chorus penances and just want something i can swing endlessly into enemies for CDR procs lol

spare talon
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ideally youd have wanted rampage there, but being able to stagger things beyond crushers is good as well, since actual horde clear isnt the 15s forte

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but yeah if youre doing this for penances, honestly prolly better

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since you can hit more enemies per swing regardless the situation

true kindle
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I have a mk15 with flak/unarmored/momentum/rampage that's my normal go-to

stable cypress
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mkxv has a p low max cleave like old ogryn shovel so cleavemaxxing isn't a big deal

spare talon
stable cypress
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I worded it poorly my b, after a point its not damaging targets and its not hard to reach that point

ivory marlin
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Gaming

spare talon
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yeah, which is actually kind of a good think in hanks case

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since they count toward ability regen even if they dont take damage

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as long as theyre hit

ivory marlin
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Cole im still confused on what you were doing when i joined your fire team

ember yew
ripe quest
# true kindle so what does perfect strike do exactly on the evis?

0.25x hitmass and ignore armor stop on crit. Armor stop applies to Carapace and Bulwark Shields. More suited to the Mk II Evis since with the XV you would prefer the consistency of SS for crit CDR since it already nets you a full ult per swing + is every hit instead of 4/5 hits.

rocky marsh
inner shale
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I have noticed im crashing a lot more with mods now

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these are my mods

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ripe quest
inner shale
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it crashes to desktop

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completely closes the game and i have to reopen it

rocky marsh
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not sure if valuable:
in my experience extended wep made me have a performance hit

inner shale
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I hope that darktide adds their own version on the customization for weapons without the use of the mod

ripe quest
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If I had to guess it'd be animation events and/or an outdated DMF with a mod that runs a newer version of DMF. That's a mod loader though so I'd imagine you have auto-updates on. A thing that helped me a while ago was clearing old mods from my user config then validating files.

inner shale
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because it does hinder the performance a bit i did notice

ripe quest
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In my vast mind of ping pong I decided to install 60 mods at the same time and my game crashes, runs out of memory, and has a 2 second lag spike every 30 seconds on the dot in the hub.

blissful tendon
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is this something that isnt supposed to happen

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inner shale
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I had the 3rd person mod on but it was super jank and got rid of it lol

blissful tendon
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im using bettermelk, psych ward and truelevel

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updated the uhhh

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dmf i think

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the one that had an update recentish

ripe quest
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If my config isn't 10k lines long it ain't my config

blissful tendon
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everything seems to be working fine ingame except for the error code

ember yew
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im doing it by manual stuff

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so that could be it

ember yew
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or update

blissful tendon
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like, update? or delete the dmf file and redownload the whole thing

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because i just updated it, deleted the old one before dropping the new one in

ember yew
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you can also check the order in which mods loaded

ember yew
blissful tendon
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i did basically the same thing with the replacement thing and it solved the error codes

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same updated file and everything

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sigh

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i mustve misclicked or something the first time

ember yew
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probably

bold dirge
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One message removed from a suspended account.

autumn briar
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So i finally got the Loner backstab penance out of the way. Now I got to finish the Shrouded variant likereallydoe

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Any tips on speeding it up? I used Rashad for the Loner one and it worked reasonably well, but it doesnt seem to one shot gunners from behind regularly even with a backstab?

rocky marsh
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discord randomly scrolled here but what the fucl

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someone wrote

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lazorr asks josho what time is it

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and josho replies its hammer time

median steeple
ivory marlin
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Suspiciously cat shaped hole in the wall

ivory marlin
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I miss his cat

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Wait

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Where is my clown

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¿Donde esta, mi payaso?

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Aye

zinc talon
lusty turtle
ivory marlin
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Damn

ivory marlin
lusty turtle
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Its 9am

royal vortex
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thats significantly past your bedtime

lusty turtle
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I just woke up!

royal vortex
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perfect time for rest

delicate shadow
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it's 1am actually

lusty turtle
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No!

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I should preemptivley mute stan before he gets online

hushed agate
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Why?

frosty herald
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Its 10:16 am

ivory marlin
ivory marlin
lusty turtle
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Because stan

delicate shadow
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smh

ivory marlin
lusty turtle
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Ass

ivory marlin
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That was unintentional

delicate shadow
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auric storm survivor pogryn

ivory marlin
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Congrats

delicate shadow
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no I mean

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ass

ivory marlin
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I was 4/5 and got bumped off a ledge going to extract

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Oh

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Real

delicate shadow
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yeah last time I played my streak got ruined by a barrel lmao

ivory marlin
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Ive given up

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Granted

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Ive only played 5 aurics in total

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But it would have been so cool

delicate shadow
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yeah I've only played 4 games since the update dropped lol

ivory marlin
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Real

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I love the game i just dont have people to play it with

delicate shadow
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I have very little urge to play until crafting update

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whenever the fuck that's happening

ivory marlin
hushed agate
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Nah it's understandable

ivory marlin
hushed agate
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Making friends is scary😞

ivory marlin
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Exactly

delicate shadow
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when was the first one?

ivory marlin
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When they capped how many blessings you can change

delicate shadow
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oh

ivory marlin
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Silly darktide currency

delicate shadow
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yea they said they're doing another crafting overhaul

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no idea when tho

ivory marlin
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Oh cool

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Cant wait to hear how mid it is 😃

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(I love darktide)

hushed agate
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Hopefully they dont replace the issue with another issue but it seems likely

ember yew
ivory marlin
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Heres to hoping

hushed agate
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🙏

zinc talon
tropic pelican
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obviously what we need is a completely new third crafting currency

zinc talon
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with even more loot casino mechanics

ivory marlin
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Wtf

zinc talon
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all of this would fade away for 6 months to a year if they'd just let you dust diamantine into plasteel like vt2

ivory marlin
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Why did that send here

zinc talon
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why indeed

ivory marlin
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Huh?

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I was talking in a completely different server

zinc talon
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looks like drunkenokri was playing last session

ivory marlin
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That’s beautiful

ember yew
ivory marlin
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Peak

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The male gaze

zinc talon
ivory marlin
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The female gaze too

zinc talon
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oh that's right

ivory marlin
zinc talon
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I was trying to make people do a double take

ivory marlin
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Bro’s just chillin

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My ears hurt

zinc talon
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what's the dump stat on axes again

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I've never used them so they just pile up and I never remember

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but I do always love getting 4 stat plus dump stat weapons

oak ermine
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Mobility, as usual, but the least important stat besides that is probably Critical Bonus

spare talon
ivory marlin
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Ah

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I just unlocked the coil today

spare talon
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How can you stand this

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ember yew
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hax

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hoax

zinc talon
ember yew
spiral anvil
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I hate how darktide modders name their mods and not label them properly on nexus

frosty herald
obsidian ore
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Looks like it’s time to post my biggest disappointment again.
Despair Aura V

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Still usable I know, but the one I am currently using is pretty much perfect anyways

south folio
spare talon
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So I read FGT

south folio
spare talon
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No way it's the kez emote

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@vernal terrace Arco is stealing your signature emote

south folio
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not only do i steal lives
i also steal emotes!!!

spare talon
spiral anvil
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Thanks scriptash

south folio
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yw guihkleigihble

left iron
ember yew
misty mason
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Stan?
Stan?

drowsy steppe
south folio
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i did steal that emote from her

rocky marsh
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Arco no

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Go back to clean

south folio
zinc talon
distant raptor
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people seriously need to learn to health stimm their martyrdom zealots

cerulean moth
rocky marsh
storm crypt
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Just give them the health stimm they will use it when they need to

distant raptor
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Wait corruption doesn’t stop martyrdom bonuses

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?

storm crypt
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Corruption still counts as a lost wound yes

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As long as your HP is not in that wound, it is lost

distant raptor
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Ok nvm then

storm crypt
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Health stimms are still nice for when cheat death procs at a bad time

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I usually carry it for others, though

lusty turtle
storm crypt
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The responsible mom zealot that brings chorus, corruption aura and a health stimm

distant raptor
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Lmao

storm crypt
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Grudgeraker to the stomach

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Sometimes I miss friendly fire, being able to scold people for being stupid

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Other times I don’t because gunluggers will turn me into Swiss cheese

hushed knoll
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Omg it rhymes

misty mason
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Go2bedgestan

zinc talon
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savable?

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or bricked already

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(lol)

oak ermine
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Bricked. Mount the chain on the conveying gear next time whatthefuck_heresy

vernal terrace
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its not loading for me

zinc talon
misty mason
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Watching people post chaxe videos on reddit
They take a solid 30 seconds to kill trash that almost any other weapon would have dead in 10s or less

hushed knoll
zinc talon
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dammej

misty mason
cerulean moth
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imma be real killing crushes that quick doesn't feel worth it when i have other shit to do it

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or my teamates

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soloution?

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nerf teamates

hushed knoll
misty mason
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Ye 🛌

hushed knoll
misty mason
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Literally me rn

hushed knoll
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How can I trust someone so anti-bedge

hushed knoll
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Shoot him with nerf guns peepoHappy

misty mason
hushed knoll
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I am not anti bedge

misty mason
ripe quest
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new helldivers weapons make my brain itch

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WHOOO MADE THEM

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I want to rip them apart

cerulean moth
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@hollow bison FOUND IT

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ITS HERE

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YOU CALLED IT

spiral anvil
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What's wrong with the new warbond weapons?

burnt belfry
burnt belfry
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Grenade pistol make brain neurons activate

cerulean moth
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is there plasma in hd2

burnt belfry
cerulean moth
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whats it like?

ripe quest
# spiral anvil What's wrong with the new warbond weapons?

Tenderizer is a reskin base lib, only changes are 30 more bullets (360 vs 330), lower firerate, and lower recoil. Pummeler is Lib Conc but without the durable damage and it's 1h. Purifier is a Scorcher with Punisher Plasma damage. Verdict has 91 FUCKING BULLETS?????? It has far more damage than the Peacemaker but has LESS?????? durable damage????

burnt belfry
ripe quest
cerulean moth
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I don't care what it does I care what it feels like to use

spiral anvil
cerulean moth
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Does it feel as good as dt plasma

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chunky

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SEXT

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SEXY

spiral anvil
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Not even close

burnt belfry
ripe quest
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HD2 plasma weapons don't cleave at all but explode. They have really good durable damage.

spiral anvil
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The primaries are designed to be anemic so you use strategems

ripe quest
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Railgun ironically is the closest to Darktide's plasma

ripe quest
spiral anvil
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Eruptor

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Too strong

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Nerf it

burnt belfry
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I missed the first games take on plasma weapons

ripe quest
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Eruptor is AC but smaller and harder hitting. They already said that the changes didn't go through properly.

burnt belfry
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Just a big “fuck-off” detonation that can knock any enemy on their ass

spiral anvil
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I have more faith in fatshark than arrowhead

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Must be the Stockholm syndrome kicking in

ripe quest
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The explosions with Crossbow and Eruptor are both a bit bugged and already acknowledged.

burnt belfry
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Love me Thermite

ripe quest
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the 100 listed damage being for the final explosion is super funny

burnt belfry
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Also love me EAT…

spiral anvil
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I'll bet breaker fire will be the next primary nerfed KEKW_ogryn

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Once they realised that they buffed fire too much without knowing it was totally bugged

burnt belfry
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Expendable Anti-Tank… my love…

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EAT

ripe quest
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Breaker Incendiary was already too strong without the fire it probs will eat a nerf yeah

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Depends on when they switch gears, they said they're trying to change from top-down balancing.

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But either way Breaker Incendiary shouldn't be doing the damage it does. It has so much damage per shot and it lights enemies on fire.

burnt belfry
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1 minute cooldown…

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2-3 shot bile titans and tanks with a well placed shot..

spiral anvil
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I love EATs too

burnt belfry
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And you get two of them…

spiral anvil
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Mained MG EATs for a goodwhile

burnt belfry
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Both for me…

ripe quest
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EATs are great yeah. I liked taking them with Spear so I could cover Chargers and Bile Titans with 1 shots.

burnt belfry
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Also like scavenging the support weapons off of dead people that are too lazy to pick them up again

ripe quest
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Lately I've been rocking Railgun w/ Rocket Turret. Depending on the map I'll swap for Flamer for similar Charger coverage.

hollow bison
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The hello neighbour thing is pretty scandalous too. I don’t see why balance needs subjective agendas lol

spiral anvil
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i dont even know if its real, and its only one guy

vernal terrace
north sedge
ripe quest
hushed knoll
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Man’s gotta make a living

north sedge
drifting wolf
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kill me

hushed knoll
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I do not get paid in Panera gift cards

tropic pelican
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why not

north sedge
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🤔

hushed knoll
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How would I pay the rent with those

hushed knoll
north sedge
tropic pelican
#

tuck them in your landlord's pocket and tell them to get em something nice

misty mason
#

Zzzz time

ripe quest
#

(I pray)

#

I cope even

#

These weapons were in the game unchanged for 3 weeks, so maybe?

hushed knoll
cerulean moth
hushed knoll
hushed knoll
frosty herald
#

Im not getting this warbond

#

Nothing in it looks good

ripe quest
#

Verdict is really fun.

#

A whole lot of fluff to get to it though.

#

The Pummeler is an upgrade to the Lib Conc ig

frosty herald
#

Maybe if it was an automatic plasma rifle i would get it

#

But its a chargeable shotgun thing

ripe quest
#

Why are so many people saying it's a shotgun?

#

It's just a Scorcher but with a charged shot

hushed knoll
#

Cuz you beat people up

drifting wolf
cerulean moth
#

They called me that for other reasons

ripe quest
#

Nearly got suspended for doing it to a teacher out of habit

hushed knoll
south folio
#

annihilate stan

ripe quest
calm salmon
#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

cerulean moth
#

sounds like swagger souls

ripe quest
hushed knoll
south folio
#

that doesn't count because it's intentnional

drifting wolf
#

first one handed primary since launch and it's a concussive variant but also has a better looking model than the base defender

hushed knoll
hushed knoll
ripe quest
hushed knoll
drifting wolf
#

91 bullet

ripe quest
#

Fun Fact: mjn,hkjhkuym,jukhym,hjmnkb,ghjgykmbnhjmngb,hjmngb,hjmngb,hjmk,gnbyujh

#

Verdict is direct upgrade Peacemaker I guess

hushed knoll
#

What

#

Speaking in tongues?

delicate shadow
cerulean moth
calm salmon
#

DPS is everything in this game

#

and sacrificing it to such a huge degree(half that of the stock liberator) is just. . . too much

ripe quest
#

statistically it's better at everything except per shot damage against like 3 enemies.

delicate shadow
solar gorge
#

i think the tenderizer hasn't been touched since they buffed the liberator and the ammo economy

#

considering AH had that weapon done since basically launch

#

expect buffs

fleet zealot
royal vortex
fleet zealot
#

good mornign ym roommate decided watching tv loudly was a perfect 5am start

ripe quest
delicate shadow
#

I wish them a very smack on the head

fleet zealot
solar gorge
#

what's going on

#

why is there a muffled gremlin talking

ripe quest
#

I'm crying irl the quality is so bad

frozen glen
#

why does exhil sound like swaggersouls

delicate shadow
drifting wolf
#

tenderizer's lament

ripe quest
#

that video had the volume reduced by 90%

royal vortex
#

what is this

ripe quest
#

😭

solar gorge
#

memetic hazard audio

north sedge
lusty turtle
ripe quest
#

the gun that has 90 bullets that does 125 damage getting added not even a week after they buff the other 90 bullet secondary that DOES LESS DAMAGE

solar gorge
#

yeah prolly because they haven't touched those weapons since they made them 4 months ago lmao

ripe quest
#

they burnt this warbond so bad I'm surprised it's still frozen what the hell is this

ripe quest
lusty turtle
#

wait so

#

its just a flat better pistol

ripe quest
#

YES

lusty turtle
#

same ammo

#

how does HD2 keep just dropping the ball on balance

solar gorge
frosty herald
#

Hopefully the ceo means it about looking at balance

solar gorge
#

i've heard new smg staggers chargers

calm salmon
#

if no, then its just a better whatever the fuck the stock pistol is called(Depends on your clicking speed)

ripe quest
frosty herald
#

Also hellpod optimization needs to be a ship upgrade

#

Because its a mandatory stratagem to take

ripe quest
#

the new booster is cool

calm salmon
#

if you don't take it, just drop a resupply on spawn

ripe quest
#

most sane thing about the warbond

calm salmon
#

it literally doesn't make a difference

solar gorge
#

if everyone's running sickles you don't need hellpod opt

ripe quest
calm salmon
#

The "ammo per death" thing kinda adds up on higher difficulties too, but meh

#

just run away from the problem until you find a POI

solar gorge
#

and as puri said, it's p overrated as a booster imo

calm salmon
#

I wouldn't say overrated

ripe quest
#

I still find it funny that GL Pistol is goated but then you save the last grenade for yourself so you can efficiently get ammo back

calm salmon
#

It's definitely the best booster in the game

#

but the booster power levels are. . .

solar gorge
#

no but people act as if you can't play without it

calm salmon
#

"Basically free ammo no matter what" to "a bog slows you down 0.5% less"

#

so like

#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

ripe quest
#

Naturally there will be a "best one". Thankfully, you get 4 slots.

solar gorge
#

stam, vit are the two i want to see everytime i dive

#

muscle if it's a snowy shithole

calm salmon
#

Ammo, More time between reinforcements, sprint duration

#

that's all I really care about

#

the last one could be whatever

solar gorge
#

new armor look good tho

frosty herald
#

If someone takes hellpod opt i will always take confusion

ripe quest
#

The radar boost one, muscle enhancement, localization confusion, stamina enhancement, vitality enhancement are my gotos

calm salmon
#

Vitality enhancement just doesn't seem worth it to me

#

"Oh no, I can tank one more bot bullet"

#

or "zero more bug hits"

#

is about the least useful you can get without a booster doing literally nothing

ripe quest
lean lark
#

30% extra maxhp is more than one bullet or bite

#

especially after the armor values doing actual things

ripe quest
#

It's a reduced chance of breaking limbs

lean lark
#

it's also +30% maxhp

calm salmon
#

Whether my limb is broken or not is not changing how I decide when to press V

ripe quest
#

Is it? Haven't heard or seen that one yet.

calm salmon
#

Yeah, its +HP/+Limb HP

lean lark
#

well you know how HP works in hd2

calm salmon
#

the actual HP% ime does literally nothing other than some super minor edge cases

#

like being able to eat a cannon round

#

and being left with a sliver of HP

#

which you can do with explosive resist armor anyway

ripe quest
#

mm, even better than what I thought it was. I might take it more often.

lean lark
#

I always take vit

frosty herald
#

extra padding on bugs explosive resist on bots

calm salmon
ripe quest
#

I take +stim medium armor for spore jumping

lean lark
#

hellpod opti > vitality > muscle > everything else

calm salmon
#

Whatever, Whatever, Stun Grenades, Autocannon, Eagle Airstrike, Eagle 500kg, Orbital Railcannon strike

frosty herald
#

you wouldnt know how many times explosive resist saved me on bots

calm salmon
#

and I take that to both bugs and bots

frosty herald
#

i genuinely have to try and get myself killed vs a devestator

solar gorge
#

having the autocannon on bugs when there's bile spewers

calm salmon
#

having the autocannon when bugs simply exist

#

regardless of their species

#

blatantly overpowered weapon is overpowered

#

but whatever, someone at arrowhead is married to the damn thing so it'll never get nerfed

frosty herald
#

I prefer airburst and hmg against bugs

calm salmon
#

HMG would be cool if I didn't have 225 rounds to go around

#

that thing really needs just a 250 round magazine with no ability to rearm it from pickups and put it on a 60 second cooldown like the EAT-17

ripe quest
#

whoa whoa that'd be way too much

#

225 it's already competitive with other 4 AP weapons, 250 and a throwable CD?

#

what

calm salmon
#

fuck it

#

made it actually good

#

please for the love of god

#

I hate games where guns go "You're spending more time reloading than shooting"

#

Tis why I tend to stray away from things like the M4/HK416 in games with them

#

850 rounds a minute with a 30 round magazine is terrible

ripe quest
#

You'd only be going to that RPM if you had a dense crowd infront of you. Bursting or running 450 is area efficient more often.

frosty herald
#

I just run supply pack with the hmg

calm salmon
#

I mean that's just my solution to all of the backpackless stratagem weapons

#

none of them work well without the free reloads you get from it

#

grenade launcher

tropic pelican
#

was really nice for illuminate

calm salmon
#

I still maintain that the HMG should've been a disposable horde weapon

#

we already have one for AT

#

makes sense to have one for hordes too

ripe quest
#

imo the HMG should probs be a backpack stratagem just to give it identity, give it a bit more of a bump to ammo since AC is nearly the same total damage, probs 360 total ammo just to keep things consistent.

frosty herald
#

I mean

calm salmon
#

where do you even find the damage for stratagem weapons

drifting wolf
#

"300 rounds of caseless ammunition stacked in the multiple barrels" and the things barrels are layed out a like vertical 2x4 lego brick

#

incredible

frosty herald
#

You could rework it into a 1200 round disposable minigun type weapon

ripe quest
frosty herald
#

With an ammo backpack for it

ripe quest
calm salmon
#

huh

ripe quest
calm salmon
#

the stalwart having 60 damage pretty much lines up with my experience

#

"Why the fuck is it taking so long to kill this brood commander"

ripe quest
#

It used to have 55 but it shares a damage ID with the Liberator

#

It sports by far the highest total damage of any weapon in the game, outside of the mech Chaingun which is just MG but with more ammo than Stalwart

calm salmon
#

yeah but its practical applications are meh at best because Arrowhead hates their own game(Why the fuck is the orbital railcannon on a 3 minute cooldown)

ripe quest
#

something something it does 2k + 2k damage and is 10 AP

calm salmon
#

Considering, though, that HD1 ended up having 15 difficulties instead of AH nerfing stratagem cooldowns

#

I think that they plan on just not doing extra difficulties in HD2

#

and instead opted to nerf all of the stratagem cooldowns

ripe quest
#

btw AT mines are goofy, they gave it 1k + 1k damage but the main enemies it preys on have equivalent AP so it's 500 + 500 instead.

frosty herald
#

The patriot used to be a primary

#

And i wonder why its a stratagem now

calm salmon
#

do you

frosty herald
#

Cause noone uses it anymore

calm salmon
#

mean the stalwart?

frosty herald
#

Yeah stalwart

calm salmon
#

Because it had 0% accuracy on start of burst

ripe quest
#

The Patriot is ingame but not released yet

calm salmon
#

and would gradually get more accurate over time

#

which isn't something you can replicate in HD2

#

without adding in like. . . auto recoil compensation

#

and I'll just direct you to Escape From Tarkov for why that's a dogshit mechanic

ripe quest
frosty herald
#

The stalwart is directly outclassed by every other support

calm salmon
#

No

#

go have fun with your flamethrower at 12 meters

#

I will continue murdering the bug breach from 120

ripe quest
#

tbf Flamer is 3 AP and kills Chargers.

#

diff enemy groups

#

Stalwart is a weapon that lets you run utility stuff for small arms, great with EAT.

calm salmon
#

Like the only legitimate comparison for the Stalwart are:

Grenade Launcher, MG-43 and HMG

ripe quest
#

GL, MG-43, and HMG are also under the category of different enemy groups, save for GL ig

calm salmon
#

Grenade Launcher is kinda whatever if you're running the supply bag. I'd probably argue its better than the stalwart

MG-43 and HMG have the static reload which really hampers their on-the-fly useability

#

The real problem with the stalwart is the dogshit state of orbitals

#

Offensive Stratagems, I guess, as a whole.

#

Hard to really quantify beyond "red stratagems"

#

But your choices for maximizing the stalwart are:

B-1 Supply Bag, Stalwart, and then two more stratagem slots for whatever

#

which becomes a massive problem at dif 8 and 9 because Orbital Precision Strike is bricked by two different mission modifiers, eagle 500kg is hard to use at best because of its terrible blast radius, orbital laser is functionally unuseable against bugs because it gets stuck on a single charger and doesn't even kill it(let alone bile titans), and the railcannon is on a 3 minute cooldown

frosty herald
#

I swapped out orbital laser for walking bombardement

ripe quest
calm salmon
#

If our red stratagems were better, the Stalwart would be a better pick at dif 8 and 9

#

Dif 7 and below and it just doesn't matter. "don't play like you don't have a brain" and your kit outright doesn't matter

#

I do have to say though:

I really like that this warbond is called "Polar Patriots" and has literally nothing to do with polar climates KEKW_ogryn

ripe quest
#

For ST stuff, EATs, 380/120, Precision, 500kg, Railcannon, Walking Barrage, AC/Rocket Sentry, 110mm Rocket Pods, and then conditional stuff like mechs/SEAF

calm salmon
#

"Your armor is white, that's the best we can do"

#

Nothing about moving faster in bad terrain or anything. just. . . the same three reused over and over armor passives on barely winter camo armor

calm salmon
#

Also, I really wish 110mm rocket pods were better 😔

ripe quest
#

Single Target, Chargers, Bile Titans, Hulks, Factory Striders, Tanks, medium enemies that you loathe

calm salmon
#

kinda hamstrung by that pesky "Red stratagems do not track the stratagem grenade" bug

#

and getting stratagems to stick to things like bile titans just isn't happening unless you're staring at their back from high ground

ripe quest
#

110mm rocket pods have auto-aim, the nade attachment thing wouldn't affect it

calm salmon
#

the auto-aim is only a couple meters though

#

it really may as well not exist

drifting wolf
#

all the gear in the polar patriots bond just makes me think they had a bunch of shit lying around and 3 sets that resemble snow gear and crammed it together to make what we have now

ripe quest
#

It's hardly that small. It's almost too large for its own good (something a future stratagem currently struggles with) since it'll hit the wrong big enemy.

calm salmon
#

Doing random damage to a charger or bile titan though isn't particularly useful.

ripe quest
#

Air-to-Air deciding to wipe a base 70 meters away because it felt like it for whatever reason

#

110mm don't have varying damage or AP.

calm salmon
frosty herald
#

The orbital strike stratagem deciding the strider needs to die instead of the hulk next to it

calm salmon
#

Hive Commanders and Scout Walkers are coded bigger than everything else in the game

#

that wasn't always the case

#

some intern at arrowhead spilled their coffee on the keyboard though and randomly changed it a month or so ago

calm salmon
#

super fucking annoying chucking an ORc at a bile titan and watching the laser track to a hive commander 45 meters away in the opposite direction

frosty herald
#

Arguably the dumbest change ever

ripe quest
frosty herald
#

Ive seen it first hand multiple times

#

Go and test it

ripe quest
#

I just did

calm salmon
#

Or a charger/bile titan with a hive commander next to him?

#

Also, does the railgun really only do 60 damage to a bile titan head? 😭

#

Arrowhead wtf

ripe quest
ripe quest
#

err it'd technically be 30 + 30 or 60 + 120, weighted in favor of durable.

azure compass
#

new enemies and weapon leaks? 👀

frosty herald
azure compass
#

you guys talking about helldivers in the zealot channel ;P

misty nova
#

Yeah, standard procedure

steel agate
#

very standard for zel chat ya

#

used to be BG3

fleet zealot
#

breada cla

#

cola

desert bough
#

what is bestest blessing for big chain sword?

oak ermine
#

Mk2 or Mk15?

#

In both cases it’s at least Rampage, but the other blessing might change from one to another

desert bough
misty nova
#

15

oak ermine
desert bough
misty nova
#

It depends on build

#

For piety

#

Rampage Shred

desert bough
#

marty

#

i wanna do a marty build

misty nova
#

Rampage + Bloodthirsty/momentum

desert bough
#

a like hammer ye but wan hevy sword

misty nova
#

You don't need extra cleave on the 15 because of the 4 targets cap

#

That's the issue

#

Which is weird because apparently you can proc cdr even if you don't damage the target

#

So something like BT+Sweep would be okay for that

#

At least on paper

hushed knoll
#

I miss @left iron

fleet zealot
#

you basically always take rampage then pick from their for your build

#

rampage tooltip is wrong, it gives power

#

making it defacto best blessing

wraith helm
fleet zealot
#

bloodthristy is not good on mk2, mk15 bt is good for chaining crusher kills

#

mk2 likes buff to it's sweep

#

since it isn't capped like mk15 is

misty nova
#

You also juggle the horde around with mk2, might be wasting crits from bloodthirsty

wraith helm
#

It was a test build. But unless it was a visual bug, the bloodthirsty buff never seemed to proc after a certain point in the mission

misty nova
#

Oh, yeah I'm having a similar UI bug

#

More noticeable when there's a left aura psyker, not sure if related

fleet zealot
#

you need to finish his quest

coarse birch
hushed knoll
coarse birch
#

You tell me

#

You banned him

hushed knoll
#

What

#

I did no such thing

coarse birch
#

Remember the ice sculpture thing

hushed knoll
#

It was a kind gesture

coarse birch
#

I havent seen them since then

hushed knoll
#

I was going to make an ice sculpture of him

#

Like not out of him

#

Just like a replica

hushed knoll
coarse birch
#

I dont think so but i wasnt actually sure what they went by and them is generally safest in my exp

left iron
#

I go by wee/woo

#

I am an ambulance

coarse birch
#

Thanks for the stamp jum

#

Oh your not jum anymore

fleet zealot
#

i go by any pronouns i'm built different

left iron
#

I honestly dont care either, i've been called so many things i've given up

violet hornet
#

Ahh there it is

coarse birch
#

Stan?

violet hornet
#

An absolutely brutal Stanning

coarse birch
#

One day his knees will buckle under the weight of his sins

hushed knoll
#

Oops

fleet zealot
#

stanielthan

left iron
fleet zealot
#

is that nicki minaj

hushed knoll
#

I didn’t mean the Niki Minaj

violet hornet
#

Oh God he has been summoned

hushed knoll
#

NO

#

COME BACK

coarse birch
#

Again stan?

hushed knoll
#

QUEEN

coarse birch
#

F

fleet zealot
#

stan can you fix my name please you fae creature

hushed knoll
burnt escarp
#

Are Blades of Faith any good on controller? I feel like they have potential, but you'd need godly reflexes/aim/instinct to do any good with 'em.

hushed knoll
fleet zealot
hushed knoll
#

I simply made a typo

violet hornet
hushed knoll
#

I made salmon the other day

#

And aspects

#

Asparagus

violet hornet
#

Wow that's a big piece of salmon

burnt escarp
hushed knoll
#

It was on jail

#

Sale

violet hornet
#

Lmao

fleet zealot
#

you know what

violet hornet
#

Got that jail salmon

fleet zealot
#

that isn't bad at all

#

also on jail salmon

#

jfc

hushed knoll
#

Why do you act suppressed

#

Surprised

violet hornet
#

Yeah looks legit I would eat Stan's jail salmon

fleet zealot
violet hornet
#

Also asparagus is hot fire

hushed knoll
#

What abo. My chicken

hushed knoll
fleet zealot
#

looks alright

#

rice is a bit

hushed knoll
#

It’s orzo

fleet zealot
#

but you are german

#

asparagus i won't judge cause i hate it personally

hushed knoll
#

Alas geht is so good

#

Asperger’s

#

GOD DAMMIT

#

ASPARAGUS

fleet zealot
#

aspergers

#

lmaooo

coarse birch
#

Not PC

fleet zealot
#

stan is straight out of a german fairy tale

coarse birch
#

Smh

hushed knoll
#

I do play on a PC

#

Get rekt liberal

fleet zealot
#

wake up liberal

#

i made you breakfast

hushed knoll
#

Hopefully the breakfast is ketchup and eggs

fleet zealot
#

i love fererets

hushed knoll
hushed knoll
#

👀

fleet zealot
merry flume
#

me when im playing my knife zealot

storm crypt
#

im so tired of people reviving through overheads :(

merry flume
#

revives you in fire

storm crypt
#

explodes instantly

merry flume
#

i actually scream as loud as i can in the mic when people do that

fleet zealot
merry flume
#

or ignoring the disablers to try to clutch revive

fleet zealot
clear knot
#

so god damn adorable

cobalt harness
#

like u

fleet zealot
#

garbage business

summer tree
#

Here's the real question, why do all vets want to be in my butthole while I try to do my loner penances

ember yew
#

because they want to share that speed aura for achievement

#

and survivalist too

summer tree
#

They can share it 100 feet away

ember yew
#

direct massage is more effective

summer tree
#

If they were any closer they'd be checking my prostate

#

It's crazy

#

Like dog, we all gotta suffer through it, he knows my pain

misty nova
#

Be even faster

ember yew
#

gotta go fast

misty nova
#

Recently, I had a zealot on my team, he zoomed 200m ahead of us

ember yew
#

fatshark is motivating for unhealthy gameplay achievements

misty nova
#

It was impressive that he was alive for so long

#

But he had to auspex by himself

#

Got insta downed and left, of course

merry flume
#

i decide to use power di instead of scoreboard because it only shows at the very end of a successful round

#

and of course people who ragequit break it

#

😭

tropic pelican
#

it does still keep the stats of people who leave, but you'll have a horizontal scroll bar at the bottom

#

you'll be able to see everyone who was in the match

storm crypt
#

"kill 25 enemies with one frag bomb, 25 times" oh ok so i just throw it immediately at any horde

#

"kill 25 enemies, 50 times, during a single activation of point-blank barrage" oh ok so i use my ability for hordes (and also waste ammo)

#

the lucky shot penance also takes forever and i've been using the achlys + lucky shot as soon as i got it 😭

ember yew
#

These kind of achivements are kinda detrimental, i understand why they want a lot of them, but some can really hurt the player

#

or the team itself

storm crypt
#

yeah, while gunlugger is the "i will spray into a crowd to protect myself", if penances are supposed to guide the players as to how to use something, they'll notice "wow this takes a long time to complete, maybe i need to waste even more ammo"

wicked sage
#

Like tossing a frag grenade across the map so it will explode without bouncing

storm crypt
#

not to mention how weird it is that the keystone also exists for stubbers and only stubbers??

#

so if you don't like stubbers then that's a penance you'll just hate doing lmao

#

i guess it could work on ripper guns, but far less effective

#

idk fatshark being fatshark i guess

ember yew
storm crypt
#

i still need to do Untouchable

#

i play martyrdom zealot i make it my goal to take health damage as soon as possible LOL

wicked sage
#

Shocking Stuff is frustrating me still...
For Veteran I even got the one where you weren't allowed to take melee damage

storm crypt
#

i got so tired of trying to get it i just braindead tossed that shit LOL

nova dust
storm crypt
#

literally yeah

#

if you see something and you think it'll blow before landing

#

shoot your shot

nova dust
#

trying to calculate it will fry you

storm crypt
#

the best way to force it is the bridge with the elevator event though yeah

vast basin
#

Shocking stuff is super easy with a flamer. if you can anticipate where the horde is coming from, toss nade then flame, pretty reliable

wicked sage
#

Been trying daily for 2 weeks, stuck at 30

storm crypt
#

man these penances are so annoying i am never taking off ministorum guardian

#

auric storm survivor? broke

#

ministorum guardian? woke

#

beginning my elitist transformation by using ministorum guardian, 500 mission portrait and 100 auric mission insignia (you will see me dead on the ground)

nova dust
storm crypt
#

ive been playing ogryn for the first time and i hit 30 and queued auric

#

the amount of times people just see me and leave is hilarious when i proceed to perform exceedingly well

#

true level is both a blessing and a mistake

nova dust
storm crypt
#

because honestly, if someone sees me and leaves because my level isn't triple digits

nova dust
#

“oh you are only level 43? im out of here”

storm crypt
#

they probably weren't worth playing with

nova dust
#

i know people that are over level 150 and SUCK

storm crypt
#

i don't care how good or bad you are as long as you're chill and having a good time

wicked sage
#

How do you check true level?

storm crypt
#

with the mod, true level

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i really hope at some point fatshark adds prestige from vt2

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only you could see your prestige and you got stuffs from leveling past 35

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bc honestly that's all i use true level for, i like seeing my funny number go up

wicked sage
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Not bothering with any mods so I guess I'll never know

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nova dust
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like you end up being better

fresh isle
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hello fellas whats the best side to look up for builds ?

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fleet zealot
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games lantern is hit or miss cause it has no filter and no peer review

fresh isle
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thanks a lot still need to hit lvl 30 and then im gonna try to build something myself and ask for help

median steeple
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median steeple
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Craft building can be pretty fun but right now a lot of shit is straight up bad or mediocre

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Hoping for a blessing rebalance soon

coarse birch
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Yeah more variation in blessings would be good although this will require them to be more than just +power or +cleave cause then you just get 3 of the same blessing on weapons where one is just better

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Its also not super interesting

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fleet zealot
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it's better than it used to be, at least fatshark consolidated the gap between t1 and t4 augments

coarse birch
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Yeah its better

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Back when you just put slaught on everything

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Nothing competed

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coarse birch
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Other than specifically hswords headtaker/rampage

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Yeah more stuff that can change how you use a weapon would be good

median steeple
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I want more blessings that interact with talents