#zealot-class

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zinc talon
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that's not gonna determine whether you clutch or die

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but it depends on what you think of the blessings themselves

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I like surgical myself, pinning fire is only going to stagger stuff you oneshot anyway

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so it's a lil wasted unless you shoot like five smols into a pack of smols then magically have a crusher there to magdump on

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surgical pairs with what you do anyway from playing 1PSers anyway

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holding the gun to your shoulder as you turn around a corner or over cover

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takes maybe five seconds to guarantee a crit

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so I'd either double perk it or reperk the stamina and rebless whichever blessing you like less to surgical

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either way it's still the third last bolter you ever use, only a couple setups are hands down 'better'

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anyway

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the seldom-seen two person leap kill

lucid pagoda
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give me a good flamer build

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skill wise

zinc talon
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I always take both 5% movement speeds

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more than that is a lil wasted cuz iirc the flamer drains your stamina super fast when sprinting

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maybe not

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if it doesn't, the 10% movement speed and always dodging perk bottom right is a good pick

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stun grenades for when you get caught up

lucid pagoda
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can you just do a build on games lantern?

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so i can see

zinc talon
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do a what

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I've never used it, can you link it

lucid pagoda
zinc talon
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so flamer as the primary vibe check

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what melee would you bring with

sinful widget
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pinning + surgical, flak + maniac/carapace

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ez

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cavalcade is no longer viable with survivalist nerf

lucid pagoda
zinc talon
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I don't see a share button anywhere on the page so here ya go

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a build for flamer as primary weapon with melee as a support

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don't sleep on the left click puff stagger

lucid pagoda
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Fire grenade with flamethrower? thats a bit overkill

zinc talon
lucid pagoda
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I feel stun grenade is better

zinc talon
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good, I do too

sinful widget
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uh

stable cypress
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I prefer knife with flamer

zinc talon
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but the talent layout is more conducive to flamer goin down the center, at least on first blush to me

sinful widget
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if u run the flamer then u need to knife

lucid pagoda
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and the charge to getthe AP and crit damage

spare talon
lucid pagoda
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I cant flame when im using the relic

sinful widget
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u can skip the equip animation by throwing a knife

spare talon
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weak spot on crusher? and crit chance?

lucid pagoda
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yeah that builds wack tbh okri

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im not gonna ollow that

zinc talon
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I haven't set up a build specifically geared towards flamer as primary use so I looked with fresh eyes and these, to me, seem the best for a flamethrower as primary setpu

leaden pebble
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did my first damnation and that shit is rough

zinc talon
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but as always

spare talon
sinful widget
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i hope u experience scab only mostly melee weakened monsters

spare talon
sinful widget
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or lights out sniper gauntlet hunting grounds

leaden pebble
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heresy maelstrom is probably my favorite so far
like a good mix between casual and difficult

sinful widget
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ngl i like pox gas

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so many health stims

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lets u be more careless

spare talon
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its all fun and games till a mutant wave and dog pack show up right as the gas starts and a mutant throws you at the demonhost

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this has happened to me before

storm crypt
lucid pagoda
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ah thats right they added a new knife. whats better the III or the VI

spiral anvil
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🤷‍♂️

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Moveset mainly

lucid pagoda
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im gambling for a knife rn but idk the difference

spiral anvil
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Stealth III might be better

storm crypt
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VI is supposed to be a horizontal-oriented moveset but i found no difference between it and the III

lucid pagoda
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fair

storm crypt
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the VI also lacks any immediate access to a weakspot hit

spiral anvil
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Push attack

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But sprint slide push attack isn't too convenient to do

storm crypt
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yeah

spiral anvil
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If you like sprint slide heavy then III

storm crypt
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you can hold heavies while sprinting anyways

spiral anvil
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So yea for stealth III is better

storm crypt
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so the III lets you run around like a crack addict and do insta heavies

spiral anvil
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I use 6 is stealth and it's so janky trying to push attack from the back

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Sometimes you miss because the push rearranges the head

storm crypt
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yeah the only weakspot push attack i like is the 6 power sword

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charge > push attack > light > light and you can make crushers not exist

spiral anvil
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Knife can do that too but it's just push attacks x3 KEKW_ogryn

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The good thing about 6's stab is that you can hit through bulwark shield sometimes

lucid pagoda
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Probably the best roll i got for a knife

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storm crypt
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-1 dodge count makes me sad

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but it is nice

lucid pagoda
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had shit luck spent like 300 k lol

storm crypt
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its already a knife so you're plenty mobile

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i can't wait until i get to go back to zealot, i have to do ogryn penances to get the points to finish the reward track

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and i really dont like anything ogryn has despair

spiral anvil
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Ogryns get the MGs

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True Rambo fantasy

storm crypt
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the stubbers are a little funny

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my favorite boss killer in vermintide 2 was the hagbane

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achlys with the fire thing is very close to that

lucid pagoda
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Another decent knife but it sacrifices a bit

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spiral anvil
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Wutelgi

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It's fine you don't need max damage rolls

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I rather get 1 extra dodge

storm crypt
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i dont think my scoreboard saved it but i had a game with 107k boss damage with that build lmao

spiral anvil
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You mean fire bullets?

storm crypt
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yeah

spiral anvil
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It's a lil crazy

storm crypt
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also yeah agree, 70-80% damage doesn't matter too much as long as first target and penetration are high enough

lucid pagoda
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Usable or crap?

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idk how good flesh tearer is

storm crypt
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good if you're bleed zealot but could also be considered overkill

lucid pagoda
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im using it on a flamer build

storm crypt
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i like uncanny strike on knives

lucid pagoda
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try and roll another?

storm crypt
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i meaaaaan

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flesh tearer to preferred blessing

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unarmoured to carapace?

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that's pretty servicable

lucid pagoda
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is precog good?

storm crypt
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it's far from the worst i'm pretty sure, more headshot damage doesn't work

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especially on a weapon thats hitbox can just decide to exist on an enemies head

spiral anvil
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Precog with duellist might get funnt

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You delete bosses probably

lucid pagoda
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i just havnt used knife alot

spiral anvil
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You want to spam push attacks

storm crypt
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if you take the bleed crit talent, you could use Mercy Killer

spiral anvil
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It's the same damage as the overhead heavy attack

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But much faster

storm crypt
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+60% weak spot damage w/ bleeding enemies

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if you want to get real quirky, Executor is +X% power on repeated weakspot hit, but you'll lose it the second you miss a weak spot iirc

spiral anvil
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If you want to be connoisseur zealot you can go the dodge crit chance one with precog and go piety

storm crypt
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riposte

spiral anvil
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But uncanny is generally more consistent

storm crypt
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riposte uncanny is the knife i have on my vet i think

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still very sad melk gave me that on my veteran and not my zealot

spiral anvil
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I like vet knife more actually

lucid pagoda
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im mainly gonna be using knife to kill elites that get in my face as I will kill most things with the flamer

spiral anvil
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Hits bps more easily because vet talents are cracked

lucid pagoda
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and for defense/speed tech

spiral anvil
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30% extra headshot damave

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15% vs elites

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20% vs ogryns

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Weapon spec

storm crypt
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yeah i just play martyrdom so i hit like every breakpoint i need to for the most part

spiral anvil
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Ah well KEKW_ogryn

storm crypt
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at the cost of carpal tunnel developing if i'm using a knife, though

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i don't think i can even click fast enough for knives with martyrdom LMAO

lucid pagoda
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im thinking do I want mercy kill and flesh tearer? I feel like thats gonna be more consistent for me

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i am not a fan of the dodge bonuses

dense field
dense field
lucid pagoda
dense field
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They're the best

storm crypt
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why don't you like dodge blessings?

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you should be dodging in melee combat, anyways, so they're basically permanent in the moment you need them

dense field
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Mercy killer is garbage

delicate shadow
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Uncanny is practically mandatory tbh

lucid pagoda
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well ill have to build a new knife then

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you dont gotta laugh at me dude

dense field
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I don't

lucid pagoda
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literally used a laughing emoji

storm crypt
dense field
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I don't have to.

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But

storm crypt
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it might feel inconsistent, but you notice when you get the buff rolling

dense field
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As a zealot, you'll be dodging always

lucid pagoda
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My build let me know if this is bad fo flame thrower

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dense field
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I'd drop wounds for more damage. But if you don't feel comfortable without them keep em.

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storm crypt
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for "flamer build" it wouldn't be more damage but i would advise that, too

lucid pagoda
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new knife I rolled

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storm crypt
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even if you intend to use your flamer more than a melee weapon, the reality is the opposite

placid fiber
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The +2 wounds is only really a "benefit" if you are running martyrdom

lucid pagoda
placid fiber
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Otherwise your are relying on something that... well you shouldn't rely on

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Relying on being able to go down more and get picked up more is a very bad thing to do, heresy+

lucid pagoda
placid fiber
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Even so, the extra damage will help you carry more easily

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I mean... if you go down in a maelstrom... chances are the domino effect will go until a wipe

lucid pagoda
dense field
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Sure

spiral anvil
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Extra damage is nice, might let you one shot bruisers even KEKW_ogryn

dense field
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You'll be doing heavies with a knife a lot

placid fiber
spare talon
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with 4 wounds, its not gonna be that effective

placid fiber
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but... yeah unless you have martyrdom, then bleed for the emperor loses a LOT of utility

lucid pagoda
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fair

storm crypt
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i use bleed for the emperor despite staying at 30 hp basilsmug

placid fiber
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Personally I always go throwing knives unless I am using matrydom

spiral anvil
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If you want to be tanky isn't the middle node the best even after nerfs

placid fiber
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I forget about my nades and I don't use them most of the time

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I, somehow, remember to use the throwing knives though when I have them...

spiral anvil
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Also duellist is kinda really good with knife

placid fiber
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Plus also if you get second wind that will be really nice for the knife

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since you can dodge a bit more

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but if you want the stun nades for the utility, then I would say take the other talent than bleed for the emperor

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if you are using the knife

spare talon
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yeah if youre using knife
the entire build should be avoiding damage in the first place with toughness stacking, dodges, and just killing them before they can hit you

placid fiber
spare talon
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7.5% toughness on heavy kill would be much better for stuns, especially knife

lucid pagoda
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well i changed my build slightly

spare talon
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second wind will always be the best, but if you really wanted stuns lmao

lucid pagoda
placid fiber
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If only Second wind was on the left side of the tree, so stun nades could be taken after it lol

spare talon
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skyrim mentality
i used stuns for the longest time then realized i rarely used one at all
now i used knives

placid fiber
# lucid pagoda Stuns ae OP why wouldnt i want them

I mean if you remember to use the nades then by all means focus on taking the nades. I forget to use the nades all the time, so for me it actually ends up being more beneficial to take the throwing knives(Except for when I do a martyrdom build)

lucid pagoda
placid fiber
spare talon
lucid pagoda
placid fiber
spare talon
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plus stuns also require you pick up grenades, and those are resource your team also uses

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if you are using knives, its literally not an option for you to take then, meaning youre team can use their grenades more

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like a vet getting more ammo cuz a psykers using a staff

lucid pagoda
placid fiber
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I mean this is why I get more benefit out of the throwing knives, since it always gives the nades to my teammates... who even if they are complete randos... randos generally use nades... almost... like... 2-10x as much as I do...

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Even the terrible ones

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I am SO used to keeping the nades for a clutch...

lucid pagoda
sinful widget
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Real

placid fiber
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That it is literally ingrained in my soul...

ripe quest
spare talon
sinful widget
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Zealots can forget about nades if they use sth like an evis or heavy sword

lucid pagoda
spiral anvil
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Penances got me to use grenades more, feels nice KEKW_ogryn

lean lark
placid fiber
lucid pagoda
calm salmon
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I guess eating all the ammo on the map is using too many of my resources Sitgryn

lucid pagoda
placid fiber
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Let me put it to you this way: I am like... 10-30x better at Enter the Gungeon with my perception issues than those randos are at Darktide...

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and I am pretty fucking bad at Enter the Gungeon

spare talon
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also knives inhereting weapon blessings is fucking amazing

placid fiber
spare talon
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why yes i would like to 2 shot a crusher with dinky little knvies

placid fiber
spare talon
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theyre also a reliable source of quick special removal ammo when the vets and ogryns hoover up all of the ammo then proceed to fucking die

zealous basin
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yall talkin about knife?

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how bout u knife deez

placid fiber
spiral anvil
zealous basin
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drugs fuck i love drugs

spare talon
zealous basin
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well there it is

spare talon
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hestia keeps saying she has something for me but she DOESNT

placid fiber
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My spice addiction is being fed... x.x

spare talon
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shes a LIAR

zealous basin
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moonstone axe got me feelin like

lucid pagoda
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Alright what should i turn mercy killer into then?

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precog?

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or riposte with flesh tearer?

spiral anvil
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Uncanny

lucid pagoda
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dont have uncunny yet

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time to go plasteel huntiung

dense field
spare talon
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i think that if we were allowed to skip travel nodes and just what we wanted outright
it would be so over for the heretics

bleak ice
lucid pagoda
placid fiber
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Anyone want a short visual demonstration of how bad I am at Gungeon, I'm gonna record my fight against the oubliette boss lol

lucid pagoda
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oh uncunny that was a typo lol

lucid pagoda
placid fiber
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Oops I forgot to turn off my Aviator's music >.>'

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I had "Restless" by Aviators playing while I fought the boss <.<'

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I actually did okay that time I fought it. :/

placid fiber
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So it is possible for people who have no right to be succeeding at Enter the Gungeon being able to succeed

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every now and then lol

placid fiber
spare talon
drowsy steppe
placid fiber
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Welp, time to go face and die to pig gannon again.

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o7

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Might as well listen to Have Faith, this time, lol

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Finally! I beat him x.x

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with half of a heart left lol

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Have Faith was actually the perfect song for me to maintain focus and keep being patient, actually, for pig gannon :/

polar nexus
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same, i don't use cavalcade if i don't have access to piety or chastise

spiral anvil
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I don't know what to get for stealth zealot bolter

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Shattering + pinning?

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But I don't really like pinning vs carapace crushers

ember yew
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Cavalcade + Pinning is the common choice for bolter against crushers anything

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it will be longtime dead before you get your shattering stacks

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aka its kinda pointless

spiral anvil
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What if you run stealth+ momentum though

polar nexus
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My extensive testing in the psykhanium shows less ammo consumed by the bolter while fighting crushers

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If I go bolter stealth, even with cavalcade I do not Crit enough to benefit from the Crit rending

ember yew
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Well, stealth does not have luxury of chastice so shatter performs a bit better there, but if i was running stealth, i would just use Zarona mk2 instead of a bolter.

spiral anvil
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Shattering I seem to get around 7 shot per crusher, with some non headshots tossed in there

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Yea revolver, but handcannon revolver is such a weapon Sitgryn

ember yew
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the thing is pretty busted for general use

polar nexus
spiral anvil
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Without vet talents it might struggle with certain bps

ember yew
spiral anvil
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Also zealots don't have weapon spec

polar nexus
spiral anvil
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Does duellist work with ranged weapons

ember yew
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oneshot headshot on crusher or 2shot bodyshot

spare talon
spiral anvil
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Ah probably I need to run that more

ember yew
spiral anvil
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Duellist is free proc vs shooters it's kinda busted

ember yew
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which benefit insanely from crit and weakspot damage

spiral anvil
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Marksman focus

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But then duellist KEKW_ogryn

ember yew
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ag1 IAG also get same huge benefits

polar nexus
spiral anvil
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IAGs in general have high finesse modifiers

polar nexus
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Mf + exec?

ember yew
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otherwise it will be like 90% per shot on head

spiral anvil
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MF for revolvo nah

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It already oneshots most things

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The only thing you would benefit is reload speed, but weapon spec exists

polar nexus
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Well I disagree.

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Again

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Mf revolver is overkill but it will just be very reliable

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I don't take Deadshot with, just suppression immunity

spiral anvil
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Weapon spec paired with agile engagement is probably just better KEKW_ogryn

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Although it requires you to melee, so it's a different playstyle

ember yew
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@polar nexus
No execution stance

polar nexus
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Sometimes you don't have the luxury to go right

ember yew
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its so sad when you cant get melee perks for vet

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on the right side

spiral anvil
# ember yew

Maybe closer it might be oneshot? Unless you are already running longshot

ember yew
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attack speed + finesse

spiral anvil
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Or just slap on agile engagement for free 25% damage

ember yew
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you can pop the exec stance for oneshot

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but without it i want to try +carapace (shout build)

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anyway, my vet is level 12

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im just farming penances

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23 more to go

polar nexus
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This has been very reliable for me. I usually take claw with it

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ember yew
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yeah looks legit

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i waaaaaaaaaant meleeeeeeeeeee talents

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FS reduce bloat ffs

polar nexus
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Yeah but talent is choice

ember yew
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my melee vet with rashad

polar nexus
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Is competitive urge Good?

polar nexus
ember yew
spiral anvil
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I'll still say melee vet is more fun than zealot KEKW_ogryn

ember yew
spiral anvil
ember yew
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tbh looks pretty bad

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spare point better to put here

spiral anvil
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Yea vet tree has way too many goodies

ember yew
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yeah

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and its bloated like everywhere

spiral anvil
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Zealot tree rework when KEKW_ogryn

ember yew
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zealot has 2 garbage trees

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one is loner tree

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apart from TWBS

spiral anvil
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The gunlot tree needs work

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Reduce spread is bad for my manstopper shotgun

ember yew
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and the second tree with Shield

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going past TWBS or Shield feels shet

spiral anvil
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Duellist being beside until death means you almost always go left

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But you have to go right for survivability

ember yew
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duelist tree is the goat

dense field
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I think the only garbage part of the right branch is the Loner.

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Everything else is solid

spiral anvil
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DR on crit is really good but why is it on the opposite side of piety KEKW_ogryn

ember yew
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so that you will be forced to take knives

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and not a grenade

spiral anvil
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And it's like 5 points deep

polar nexus
spiral anvil
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Knives is most fun on zealot

ember yew
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24/7

spiral anvil
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Fire nade and stun nade are just

polar nexus
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i am ok to share the nades with the ogryn but ffs, if you're a vet, bring your own nade

ember yew
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yesterday i got MS match with 3 vets and at least one got nades from crate

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it was a bliss for fire nades

stable cypress
tropic pelican
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oh so that's why that was happening

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had a vet spamming smoke on every horde that came at us

rocky marsh
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Will evisc get nerfed

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I don't want to grind for evisc for perfect strike and then 2 weeks later its nerfed

stable cypress
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from what they've said major weapon balance really isn't the priority rn so if it does it won't be for a while

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and idk evis are good but there's lots of good weapons rn

delicate shadow
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evis really doesn't need nerfing lol

stable cypress
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maybe they'll nerf crit cdr which would nerf perfect strike ig but next patch is crafting rework so at worst you can turn a good evis into a different good evis (presumably lol)

oak ermine
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I’d say 2 is mostly fine

quaint verge
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Both are ok, thats what they are. Okay.

oak ermine
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But 15 is a bit too good for how simple its moveset is

rocky marsh
rocky marsh
oak ermine
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Momentum/Inexorable definitely needed a nerf

rocky marsh
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:O

oak ermine
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There is slightly more room for other keystones to compete with it IMO

rocky marsh
frozen ibex
oak ermine
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But it’s still a very good option/probably still better than Piety and Marty whatthefuck_heresy

rocky marsh
rocky marsh
frozen ibex
delicate shadow
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main things that need nerfing rn re: zealot is tree related

ember yew
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~~but make every stack 10% ~~

quaint verge
frozen ibex
rocky marsh
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now i don't even watn to touch mommentum

quaint verge
delicate shadow
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martyrdom doesn't function at all without the DR

rocky marsh
# frozen ibex But I'd die

idk if its because of the SoC proccing before hand
But one time a burster bursted all over me it was only all of my toughness

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i had 5 stacks

delicate shadow
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or you'll just get clapped by chip damage the moment the game lags

quaint verge
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the half wound shite needs to leave PePeW

rocky marsh
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what is half wound

frozen ibex
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Give +2 wounds curios for martyrdom buff.

delicate shadow
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DR elsewhere in the tree does need nerfing for sure tho

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and CDR

rocky marsh
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you guys are all pro gamers
asking for nerfs for what i consider baseline

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nerfing martyr dr

quaint verge
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also remove the wound based martydom

rocky marsh
quaint verge
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return to hp based, pls

frozen ibex
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My 300+ hp martyrdom build back again

quaint verge
stable cypress
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there's cheezy shit but I still mostly want the crap talents on zealot tree reworked

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willing to trade cdr for that

rocky marsh
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that countered by fire xd

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or gas

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small damage

quaint verge
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if you die to gas/fire, you deserve it

rocky marsh
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but sometime you will need to eat some gas

quaint verge
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unless you get grieved by 3 naders

frozen ibex
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Bring back old decimator.

rocky marsh
delicate shadow
oak ermine
quaint verge
delicate shadow
quaint verge
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think we were the only people who did martydom

frozen ibex
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People were too scared whatthefuck_heresy

delicate shadow
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chastise also needs nerfing

rocky marsh
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actually insane

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50% DR

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100% uptime

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its not even TDR iirc

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its pure DR

rocky marsh
delicate shadow
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100% yea

rocky marsh
delicate shadow
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the armour reduction thing is a problem, though ofc crit cdr very much skews that

rocky marsh
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armour reductrion is only once tho :(
And only for crushers

delicate shadow
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but being able to chastise and then kill multiple crushers with a laspistol is a very big meme that probs shouldn't exist

quaint verge
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especially when you use the offhand weapon

rocky marsh
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i think its some interactions with chastise that make it kinda broken like you said
(laspistol and critspam)

royal vortex
stable cypress
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It's always been kinda broken but it's funny and also would be less bs without cdr

rocky marsh
delicate shadow
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yeah like maybe just nerfing CDR would be enough

royal vortex
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laspistol is one of the big offenders when it cones to flak adm being higher than unarmored

stable cypress
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also it'd be a flamer nerf and idk I like where that's at rn

rocky marsh
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it would make the skill sucky for anyone not abusing those interactions

delicate shadow
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overpressure still doesn't even work right?

stable cypress
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yeah except that not working lmao

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(But at least it means building flamer is easier til crafting update since it's just perks, blaze away and whogivesashit)

quaint verge
#

they should change some main ult to a lore friendly version

rocky marsh
ivory marlin
#

I cant sleep

quaint verge
rocky marsh
#

what ults do they have in lore?

ivory marlin
#

Whats up tonight zealot chat

quaint verge
#

they chant some holy stuff, and sent themself to a fervour to inflict the most destruction

drowsy steppe
quaint verge
#

the Redemption cult

ivory marlin
#

Whats smth cool i can do on Saturday besides gamble at a casino that has no alcohol

quaint verge
rocky marsh
#

woah so its a gang

#

what sort of ults will they have then...

quaint verge
#

not always, but their goal is to die for the emperor

rocky marsh
#

hmmm

delicate shadow
#

but yea like main thing FS really needs to do with balance is fix CDR on every class so that it's possible to actually get a good idea of where things are at without spamming F skewing everything

quaint verge
#

fervour from chants is a start

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the relic could be rework to buff instead of the ring of water-spray that keeps everything at bay

rocky marsh
#

ohh they are preachers

#

then i feel chorus could be changed to something like VoC but gives attack speed and/or damage

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or sprint speed

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movement speed

quaint verge
#

and the holy fire preacher

#

There is also sister repentia, but thats is the sisters of battle variant. so those not fit with the inquisitions prisoner story of darktide

oak ermine
#

Hm. What’s the current state of left branch of Blazing Piety keystone? Is it still rather boring/unimpactful/situational?

rocky marsh
#

dead*

spiral anvil
rocky marsh
spiral anvil
#

Ogryn being tank class means I should go down first in every engagement right? KEKW_ogryn

rocky marsh
#

thats why you should play psyker
you explode everyone dies

spiral anvil
#

Think of all the damage I soaked for the team (!!!)

rocky marsh
#

you dying for the team

quaint verge
#

they want redemption, which does not benefit the team with a buff on dying

#

they want to die in battle for the emperor, but does not stop them from surviving and deal with emperors enemy another day

quaint verge
#

from the lore, we got possible 4 ways to go

#

the confessor might be a strecth to incl. in the game

#

so redemptionist is frontal fighter, while the other is more of a religious fervour preacher. and the vindictus is purificator with the holy promethium

rocky marsh
#

i mean that their goal right, to motivate others thru redemption

quaint verge
#

they motivate others by leaping into battle

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while preaching and such

spiral anvil
#

Leaping into battle with support chorus

sinful widget
#

How about we leap into battle as warrior priests of Sigmar?

rancid island
#

Does sigmar exist in 40k or thats just oldhammer thing?

hushed knoll
sinful widget
misty mason
#

Go2bedgestan

polar nexus
#

what if Stan was not going to bed, but the bed was going to Stan? hmmm

#

makes you wonder

nimble fiber
#

lol

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but fr tho go bedge stan Bedge

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so uh, from that sentence I reckon its not that great? kekW

spiral anvil
#

Isn't Rashad the best axe

placid fiber
#

Generally speaking? Yes

#

If only we could get this in Darktide... :/

image.png
#

I would love sending enemies flying into other enemies

nimble fiber
#

u get casey and I get gunther sassyok

placid fiber
#

and I mean flying into other enemies and damaging/killing them >.>

#

I'd be so fucking hyped to start murdicating the heretics with Casey

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I might even forget about my ranged weapon, for a while hehe

nimble fiber
#

I think if I would get gunther, I would never again use my melee lol

placid fiber
#

I can see that happening, for sure lol

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Which means we would probably complement eachother, almost perfectly <_<

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And I wouldn't care if someone was blasticating enemies with Gunther, I'd be too focused on getting up close and person with the heretics to send em flying! >:3

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In all honesty I find Gunther a bit boring, since you have to hyper focus it so you can get it to level 3 power... I find other options to be more fun, in general, myself :/

nimble fiber
#

lol I never have to focus, I just play

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its so easy

placid fiber
#

I mean... I want the gameplay to at least be somewhat engaging lol

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Otherwise the game will lose my attention

#

Then I will stop having fun

#

Then I will stop playing

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or restart the run lol

nimble fiber
#

eh nah, gunther is the only thing keeping me in gungeon tbh

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gunther and rainbow mode

placid fiber
#

Rainbow mode is pretty much required for me... to be able to play the game... as if it were normal difficulty :/

#

Due to my horrible perception, that my eyes have :/

nimble fiber
#

ye u said that yesterday
(at least for me yesterday)

placid fiber
#

Probably x.x

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I have a tendancy to repeat myself at times >.>'

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I'm restarting my run until I get scattershot on my Pilot for his starting item >.>'

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I settled for Helix Bullets twice already, I am not settling anymore. It's Scattershot or no deal

#

Scattershot is probably, legit, my favorite item <.<

placid fiber
rocky marsh
rocky marsh
#

or you could just use reshade and turn saturation way up

placid fiber
rocky marsh
#

go configure LUT

placid fiber
#

It is a more... "casual" version of Enter the Gungeon, more or less

rocky marsh
#

either way i think reshade would help :v
Help other games you play also

placid fiber
#

I mean... I am not having issues with colors in game, tho

rocky marsh
#

ooo

#

then dun need that

placid fiber
#

Yep, lol

spiral anvil
#

Reshade is nice though

placid fiber
spiral anvil
#

Idk why games are color graded for the worst LCD TVs

rocky marsh
spiral anvil
#

The real answer 😔

placid fiber
#

I am, legitimately, after 1 starting item for this run. @rocky marsh

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rocky marsh
placid fiber
#

Why? Fun

rocky marsh
#

the last time i posted some scattershot image i almost got banned

placid fiber
# rocky marsh dat good or bad

People have mixed feelings on it. It makes each projectile/beam multiply into 3, but, also makes them do 55% of the damage they would have done... and gives it more spread

#

Personally? I LOVE the item

rocky marsh
#

@nimble fiber i see you see. heh heh heh.

placid fiber
#

There aren't really... "proc" effects per say

#

Not in the same way as Risk of Rain

#

For the Pilot's starting pistol... Scattershot drastically increases the accuracy of it lol

#

It's very inaccurate lol

rocky marsh
#

:
v

#

oh

#

so shoot more more chance to hit

placid fiber
#

The accuracy gets much worse, the further away the target is... also, unlike the other starting pistols, the pilot's pistol has a limited range as well <.<

rocky marsh
#

sorry i play easy game like dt

#

dungeon too hard for me

placid fiber
#

I normally don't play bullet hell games

#

I got inspired by Barb(BarbarousKing) to get the game, after I watched him get the all floors world record speedrun

#

And... I have not regretted that decision, yet

rocky marsh
#

u should watch mario 64 speedruns

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very cool

#

boing boing boing

placid fiber
#

When I get scattershot I will show you how the pilot's pistol looks with it >.>'

rocky marsh
#

okeh

placid fiber
#

I might show you helix bullets as well, if that pops up while I am resetting <.<

#

Helix bullets makes the bullets move... in a direction that is the shape of dna...? I think is the easiest way to describe that lol

ornate bone
rocky marsh
#

u should get banned

ornate bone
#

no u

nimble fiber
left iron
nimble fiber
#

ice pls destory the part in my brain that remembers things

left iron
#

No

rocky marsh
rocky marsh
#

im so sad

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i tot we frens

left iron
rocky marsh
#

monki will remember thsi betrayal

quaint verge
nimble fiber
ornate bone
hushed knoll
#

EVERYONE PLEASE GREET ICE RIGHT NOW

#

HI ICE

quaint verge
north sedge
left iron
#

I must take my leave

#

Farewell

placid fiber
hushed knoll
placid fiber
#

I think the game doubts just how strong my resolve is to restart until I get scattershot... I legit have all of today... until ~10am tomorrow... to constantly keep resetting <.<

hushed knoll
hushed knoll
north sedge
placid fiber
#

Finally! It only took like... 1 hour... x.x

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nimble fiber
placid fiber
#

Worth every second, tho

#

:3

drowsy steppe
#

Hello Ice

nimble fiber
#

I think ice got scared away by stan the man, but hi mal come_through

rocky marsh
hushed knoll
nimble fiber
#

have u finally watched the big lez show stan?

hushed knoll
#

No

hushed knoll
nimble fiber
#

u disappoint me

hushed knoll
#

Go to bedge

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What time did you bedge last night

nimble fiber
#

5 am or something

hushed knoll
nimble fiber
#

isn't it 5 am on your side?

hushed knoll
#

No

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8:36

nimble fiber
coarse birch
#

5 am bed time

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Thats my thing

nimble fiber
#

nah your thing is exploding as psyker kekW

coarse birch
#

Look man

#

Sometimes i auto pilot and i think im at like 70 so i throw 3 assail shards and swap back but i was at 80 so i died

#

I proceed to get the overwhelming feeling to hide in a corner

#

I did say if i blew up again i would ban myself from ever playing psyker again and i can only use gray taxe 4 and recon lasgun

lusty turtle
coarse birch
#

What the FUCK

#

How come im the one psyker main who admits the class is stupid and yall still come after me 😭

lusty turtle
#

psyker main

left iron
nimble fiber
coarse birch
#

Ice

#

Back me up

#

You play psykwr

left iron
#

Arco abandoned psyker because he kept blowing up so you had to take up the mantle?

coarse birch
#

Yes

#

Exactly

coarse birch
nimble fiber
#

I mean didn't the majority abandon psyker and is now a certified zealot?

coarse birch
#

I also play hsword zealot 😭

#

Yeah people got tired of psyker i think

left iron
#

There hasnt been anything new for psyker specifically for ages, so it got stale

#

Tis true

#

My zealots and psykers are roughly the same level

coarse birch
#

Youd have to just be dumb and really like scriers DD like me

#

And assail

#

(Nerf plz)

#

I had vet zealot and psyker semi even a while ago but psykers been ahead for months now

#

I dont even play vet anymore just zealot psyker

nimble fiber
#

ye for me it was the playstyle

coarse birch
#

I think my psyker is level 570 and zealot 300 something

nimble fiber
#

zealot was just way more suited for the way I play

quaint verge
coarse birch
#

Vet is like level 200 iirc

nimble fiber
coarse birch
#

Want a secret

#

Arco has no love in his cold black heart

left iron
#

My zealots are ~750 and psykers are ~700

quaint verge
#

he has stan

coarse birch
#

Even if you didn't call him a goose he would hate you

left iron
#

Vet is 380

nimble fiber
#

lies he loves turning people into food

left iron
#

Oggy is 100 something, idk

#

I dont like playing oggy, feels so sluggish

nimble fiber
#

never played vet and never played oggy so far

#

generally there are many things I didn't play yet

quaint verge
#

vet on the right side is just discount zealot

left iron
#

Im playing vet the same way i play zealot cat_stare

#

I have peesword but no twbs

coarse birch
#

Shout tho

nimble fiber
#

thanks to dclaw vet could be ok actually

coarse birch
#

Lets you melee for free anyway

desert bough
nimble fiber
#

thank u ulgo, appreciate it

desert bough
#

No problem shouty

left iron
#

What

nimble fiber
#

hm?

left iron
#

Hm?

quaint verge
#

harh?

misty nova
#

VoC Vet shouts more than zealots I guess

coarse birch
#

Huh

desert bough
#

What? You never see ogryn before?

nimble fiber
spiral anvil
#

knife damage kinda crazy KEKW_ogryn

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desert bough
coarse birch
#

Yeah knife is a bit funny into unyielding

#

Assuming you are critting

desert bough
#

Hate havin to do backstabs

coarse birch
#

Well headshot is good too

#

Unless you mean with stealth

spiral anvil
#

is from headshotting only

#

cant backstab when soloing bosses

coarse birch
#

Oddly enough crit bodyshot gives you more value than normal headshot

#

But crit headshot is ideal

hushed knoll
coarse birch
#

Ayo

#

What

lusty turtle
hushed knoll
#

He is a treasure

#

He needs to be preserved

coarse birch
#

I agree idk if i want him in my freezer

nimble fiber
#

huh

lusty turtle
#

wait what no don't start calling me a treasure

coarse birch
#

Also i feel like saran wrap is an odd choice for something going in the freezer

lusty turtle
#

and isn't saran a poison

coarse birch
#

It would get stuck

nimble fiber
#

murdery vibes

hushed knoll
hushed knoll
#

Like cling film

coarse birch
#

Ye its just cling wrap

#

Plastic wrap that sticks to itself

hushed knoll
#

Perfect for preserving meats

nimble fiber
#

is skele meat u wanna preserve?

hushed knoll
#

No

#

He’s a person

coarse birch
#

Hes also a skeleton

hushed knoll
#

He’s more than meat

coarse birch
#

That sounds

nimble fiber
#

yes

#

it sounds

hushed knoll
#

What

lusty turtle
hushed knoll
#

I should start a cryotherapy business

coarse birch
#

Why

nimble fiber
hushed knoll
#

Why not

#

Being cold is fashionable

#

According to a recent Gallop ™️ poll

coarse birch
#

I dont think thats how that works

nimble fiber
#

stan why u like cold things so much

sonic totem
hushed knoll
#

A living ice sculpture would be kind of dope

hushed knoll
coarse birch
#

It would be cool

#

Short life span

#

But cool

#

This was not a pun

nimble fiber
#

wouldn't wanna be the ice sculpture tbh

hushed knoll
#

No like freezing someone so they are encased in ice

#

And they’re just there

nimble fiber
#

wtf stan

#

u the ice king or something?

hushed knoll
#

I am like Elsa

sonic totem
#

Okay Arnold

nimble fiber
hushed knoll
#

Arnold?

sonic totem
#

Mr freeze

#

Old Batman movie

hushed knoll
#

I don’t know him

sonic totem
#

Damn

hushed knoll
#

Batman is kind of a bitch

#

He complains too much

sonic totem
hushed knoll
#

He’s a rich whiny person

#

Who only has power cuz he’s rich

sonic totem
#

The best power

nimble fiber
#

never really was a fan of batman, but the movie was dope

sonic totem
#

Imagine the number of aquillas I could buy if I was Batman 🤤

coarse birch
#

When does batman whine

nimble fiber
#

when his parents died

coarse birch
#

He quite literally puts everything on himself

#

And then does not complain about it

nimble fiber
#

ye don't know what stan was about, I just don't like him cause he's just rich and can fight

coarse birch
#

He does only have power cause hes rich i will admit

#

I do like batman a lot although im not like a super fan

#

I just like his villans a lot and he is neat

nimble fiber
#

can relate about the villans part

#

rip heath ledger

sonic totem
#

Ya'll excited for folie a deux?

nimble fiber
sonic totem
#

Joker sequel (The one with Joaquin Pheonix)

nimble fiber
#

oooh I will definitely watch it in cinema I think

#

is there a release date yet?

coarse birch
#

Yeah ill watch that prob

sonic totem
#

October I think?

#

Couple months away

nimble fiber
#

this year??

sonic totem
#

Ye

#

Last Joker film also released on October iirc

nimble fiber
#

u know what specific day?shook

sonic totem
#

It's on Google. 4th October

#

For US specifically tho

nimble fiber
#

lol its 3th october for europe

sonic totem
#

Ah, because of timezones probably

#

EU is in the fuuuuuutuuuuuure

left iron
#

Nah US lives in the past

nimble fiber
left iron
#

Common US L

hushed knoll
#

Ice

#

Ice

#

Look at me ice

nimble fiber
#

( ice run )

hushed knoll
#

You are about to become an ice sculpture

#

Jk ice I would never do that owo

left iron
coarse birch
#

Surely not

hushed knoll
#

ICE NO IM SORRY

#

ICE PLEASE COME BACK

coarse birch
#

Gone forever

#

Ice will be missed

#

🫡

hushed knoll
#

NO

nimble fiber
#

stan what have u done

hushed knoll
#

NOTHING

nimble fiber
coarse birch
#

Moment of silence for ice

hushed knoll
#

NO

sonic totem
#

May he rest in pepperonis

lusty turtle
#

I'll miss ice

#

🫡

hushed knoll
#

HE IS NOT GONE 😠😠😠😠

#

I hate the saluting face emoji

coarse birch
#

🫡

hushed knoll
#

😒

coarse birch
#

Rude to hate the saluting face emoji when its for ice

hushed knoll
#

Why would you need to salute ice

coarse birch
#

Because they are gone

#

Would be kinda fucked up to just ignore that

lusty turtle
#

gone forever sadge

hushed knoll
#

Ivy is not gone

#

Ivy

#

Ice

coarse birch
#

Ok so

sonic totem
#

🫡🫡🫡

coarse birch
#

You make ice vanish

hushed knoll
#

😠

coarse birch
#

And then misname them

hushed knoll
#

It was a typo

#

Nothing more

coarse birch
#

Also why do you hate the saluting face emoji stan

sonic totem
#

Ugh, the depravity megachingryn

hushed knoll
#

It’s like seeing a bug

#

You don’t know why you don’t like it

#

You just know you don’t

coarse birch
#

Hm

median steeple
#

Why do you hate bugs

coarse birch
#

Stan hates everything

#

Cake can't wear socks

#

Crabs cant be cozy

#

Stickbugs cant dance

#

The list goes on

hushed knoll
#

Cake can literally not wear socks

#

What about that is false

coarse birch
#

Are we going to have this conversation again

#

Also what happened to redverse

lusty turtle
coarse birch
#

I havent seen them in a while

lusty turtle
#

still here, just busty i guess

coarse birch
#

Deadass?

lusty turtle
#

i meant busy but im not gonna change that

hushed knoll
coarse birch
#

😳

hushed knoll
#

Skelly

#

Do you wanna admit something

coarse birch
#

Need redverse to come back asap

#

Luna also dissapeared but i think they just left

#

As they stopped playing dt

hushed knoll
lusty turtle
#

yes they can

coarse birch
#

That stickbug is clearly dancing

nimble fiber
fleet zealot
versed turtle
#

Hadron cooked for once?

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fleet zealot
#

Also low pen

nimble fiber
versed turtle
#

Thats the highest pen out of all the rest of the high rolls I got lmao

fleet zealot
#

Perks are fine

#

Top 75%tile

#

But both blessings suck as

hushed knoll
versed turtle
#

I can change point blank out no problem (was just putting it on there because I wanted to test something)

hushed knoll
versed turtle
#

What should I get for blessings then?

summer tree
#

I haven't played Zealot since the rework, looking forward to using the crusher tbh

hushed knoll
#

Facts don’t care about your feelings

nimble fiber
fleet zealot
versed turtle
median steeple
#

To the shredder you go

fleet zealot
#

Yee

#

Iirc from veteran chat

#

Elites hits the same crusher/mauler BP as carapace perk

#

But you can’t have everything

#

Unless you get exceedingly lucky gambling

#

Like my military vet uncle who won a jackpot in vegas

versed turtle
#

Hadron really just hates my zealot/psyker and loves my ogryn

nimble fiber
#

bread

misty nova
summer tree
#

If it makes you feel better

spare dome
#

well took ten hours for my first hades ii win

#

deffo already worth a buy

north sedge
spare dome
#

death to chronos

runic rune
#

Is no respite shottie blessing for hits that stagger the enemy or after the shot that put them into stagger?

coarse birch
#

Itll start stacking after the first shot

#

Iirc

fleet zealot
vapid olive
#

bolter blessings?

oak ermine
vapid olive
#

bootiful

ripe quest
#

No Respite caps out at 7 stacks of stagger, but you'd need a stun or outside repeated stagger to apply that many stacks. It makes Crusher + NR Shotgun a good combo.

hushed knoll
#

Hello Exhillious

#

Fortune smiles upon me to see you here.

visual stream
ripe quest
hushed knoll
hushed knoll
coarse birch
#

why would you react to exhil like that

#

he was greeting you

nimble fiber
#

stan is so rude today damn

#

first he sends ice away now this

coarse birch
#

yeah he choose violence today

hushed knoll
#

I’m not rude PES_Cry

#

I miss ice