#zealot-class

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minor sage
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headtaker always requires you to build the stacks

rocky marsh
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what do you cancel? the put away animation?

vast basin
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Headtaker literally count every enemy hit bro

ripe quest
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It cancels the pullout animation

rocky marsh
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FUCK

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How come i never knew

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pullout game not stronk enough

maiden path
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plasma reload tech

nimble fiber
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any good shows runnin rn?
still sad that shogun is overmonke_cant_believe_it

vast basin
frosty herald
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Sprint just as the valve gets closed on the plsama rifle

rocky marsh
nimble fiber
rocky marsh
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i cannot explain it because then admin would remove it

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no

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wtf

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timing

nimble fiber
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ye

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ahaha

rocky marsh
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i mean i cannot explain the monkey

nimble fiber
maiden path
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i LOVE OINGO BOINGO

coarse birch
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theres a new xmen

rocky marsh
# nimble fiber how

xmen 97 cartoon
Just feels nice to watch, like stuff is "grounded"?
I have no real compliments or criticisms

rocky marsh
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Teach!!!

coarse birch
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i kinda wrote off xmen after like every recent movie was ass

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logan was good tho

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ass is an exxageration

dense field
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I loved the '97 cartoon when I was a kid

nimble fiber
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yoshi knows!
SCrunFAST

minor sage
rocky marsh
ripe quest
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The 97 remake is pretty good. They gave magneto the goofiest hoe outfit I've ever seen but apparently it was worse in the original

ember yew
sterile basalt
dense field
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Good taste

rocky marsh
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i think its something in the gif url where you set the size, but i never really figured out how to do it

maiden path
sterile basalt
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Executor (knife & force sword) also stacks per weakspot hit

nimble fiber
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but fr tho imma give the new xmen show a watch thxsassyyes

coarse birch
sterile basalt
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If u swing once and hit 5 enemies you get full headtaker stacks

minor sage
sterile basalt
rocky marsh
ripe quest
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Headtaker and Executor having mechanics that would fit the other better is classical Fatshark.

coarse birch
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i dont think ive ever posted a gif in discord

sterile basalt
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I recently had to check every veteran blessing 1 by 1 to figure out what exactly they behaved like

nimble fiber
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( its an emoji )

ripe quest
nimble fiber
sterile basalt
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Did you know that flesh tearer cannot be applied on crit punch with knife

rocky marsh
sterile basalt
nimble fiber
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have your own server

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or be admin in one

frosty herald
coarse birch
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like

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power wise

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or

rocky marsh
coarse birch
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you know what i think i know the answer

rocky marsh
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so i think personally i like the new one more but im not a xmen "fan" so maybe i don't really get it

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maybe you just too horni

nimble fiber
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so uh

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whats the name again?

vast basin
rocky marsh
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xmen 97

minor sage
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Hmm fair enough

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I guess if they changed the way it stacks, its much more even

nimble fiber
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uuh 8 episodes, imma binge that

sterile basalt
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I can send all the blessing stuff I checked so far

minor sage
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Its still 40% less

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Than slaught tho

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Lol

sterile basalt
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15% difference

minor sage
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Yes thats 40% less

sterile basalt
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KEKW_ogryn ig if u put it that way

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But really I just think of it as a 15% loss

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For simpler stacking

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It’s not make or break at the end of the day

minor sage
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it might

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depends on the bps

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if it hits a bp on rager or whatnot

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dunno

rocky marsh
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like yeah the xmen 97, characters actually feel like people

coarse birch
rocky marsh
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it doesn't feel like ok this is a reaction to something happen
which happens in any sort of media

rocky marsh
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:kirbycream:

nimble fiber
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did u just call yoshi sugar? u an old grandma or something?

rocky marsh
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thats what rogue calls peepol

coarse birch
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its what rogue says a lot

nimble fiber
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oh lol

coarse birch
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shes southern

rocky marsh
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thats why i :kirbycream:-ed

open pollen
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Sex symbol is a strange term, no? Like, this person isn't just attractive, this person's symbolic... of SEX!

rocky marsh
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stupid admin not letting me post kirby with some milk across the screen

coarse birch
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please do not refer to aquila as stupid

rocky marsh
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that was made in jest :v

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of course i understand its nsfw

nimble fiber
rocky marsh
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i don't get why discord don't allow you to "steal" emotes even with nitro

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fucking telegram lets you steal the whole sticker pack

nimble fiber
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I think I have watched every non cartoon xmen movie there is and still don't know much about it

coarse birch
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yeah idk a ton either

coarse birch
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ive watched x men 1-3 and logan but thats about it

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played some of the ps2 games

rocky marsh
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the movies are mainlyjust action
i didn't even understand the movie with the old deadpool

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i didn't even know he was deadpool

coarse birch
open pollen
coarse birch
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oh yeah i watched origins too

nimble fiber
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ye I think I have watched every major movie ( not counting bootleg ones )

maiden path
rocky marsh
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beb beb going on a youtube journey

maiden path
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music list journey

rocky marsh
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vebry cursed journey.

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chris-chan involved journey

maiden path
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has anyone played dead rising 1 here

open pollen
frosty herald
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i did play dead rising 2

maiden path
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all i remembert of dead rsing is the respawning inmates

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that played that fuckass song

frosty herald
maiden path
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jared leto song

minor sage
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Playing dead island 2 rn

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And its pretty good

rocky marsh
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the only song cod reminds me of is the goodbye mfw2 and the blackops songs
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minor sage
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A bit easy but the story and the gameplay is pretty top notch

nimble fiber
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its fun for sure

frosty herald
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also why are you fresh in the server bruh

rocky marsh
frosty herald
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cap asf

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ive seen you here before

rocky marsh
nimble fiber
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liar liar pants on fire

rocky marsh
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i just started the game yesterday

rocky marsh
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imagine getting remembered mwah

nimble fiber
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loved the dI2 parody goat simulator did

maiden path
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whats that kanye song with the same flow as that madworld song

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this

rocky marsh
maiden path
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I FOUND IT

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it has the exact same fucking flow

rocky marsh
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I mean I could smell your rizz from a mile away, sir goasheesh

frosty herald
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die

rocky marsh
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lets do it together :3

frosty herald
maiden path
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i will proof myself

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prov

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it has the same flow

maiden path
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he couldnt do anything but drop the hardest shit ever

rocky marsh
# frosty herald die

if we can't be born on the same day, month and year, at least we could pass on the same day month and year

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maybe we couldn't be horoscope buddies now, but we could be horoscope buddies forever

frosty herald
nimble fiber
maiden path
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who is a saggytitus

coarse birch
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i actually dont think most of my music has a parent advisory warning despite technically not being appropriate now that i think about it

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makes me wonder how they go about rating stuff

maiden path
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the only rwo famous ppl i share a birthday with is daredevil and nero the roman emperor

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this daredevil btw

frosty herald
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i share my bday with harry styles

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im cooked

rocky marsh
frosty herald
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SHUTUP

rocky marsh
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You know hatred and love are two sides of the same coin

frosty herald
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bros trying to rizz me up

ripe quest
rocky marsh
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no you already did, to me Krey

rocky marsh
ripe quest
rocky marsh
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yeah i see that happening now.

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discord's access control has always sucked

maiden path
ripe quest
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like I have some funny ones BRUHMOMENT DAAAYUM fantasy but that same server has thanass and thancock and I'd rather not have that be public

rocky marsh
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there was a zero day of someone becoming admin adjacent on my server
(friend ran a script another friend gave him)

frosty herald
rocky marsh
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i do not believe discord has ever announced there was such a vulnerability

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he didnt even had admin role btw

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but he could see server logs

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like discord server logs

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which ONLY admins could do

lusty turtle
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wtf did i just turn up to

frosty herald
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Move along officer

ripe quest
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I'd show you but you'd ban me.

coarse birch
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there were many warning signs

frosty herald
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Send it to him in dms

rocky marsh
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You see everyone here isn't clean.

lusty turtle
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i'm blowing up zealot chat

coarse birch
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good

rough galleon
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deserved

ripe quest
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I'm hesitant to send naked Thanos to a moderator in DMs.

coarse birch
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in my defense i did ping you

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however it was a joke

nimble fiber
rough galleon
coarse birch
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im not sure skele wants naked thanos in his dms

nimble fiber
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skele I feel the same, I come in here and read this

rough galleon
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two unrelated things, i assure you

rocky marsh
nimble fiber
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how u know

ripe quest
nimble fiber
coarse birch
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sending it to a mod with extra steps

rocky marsh
ripe quest
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Lets send it through the entirety of Zealot chat then send it to a mod and see who gets banned

rough galleon
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it's called separating the conditions, and it's a one way ticket to technical innocence

nimble fiber
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( everyone )

coarse birch
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(its all of us)

rocky marsh
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if there was ever a ban pass for one emoji/picture i would want it to be kirby cream

coarse birch
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if im gonna get skele to ban me from zealot chat ill make sure its better than naked thanos gambling

rocky marsh
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is it the black porn actor but with thanos face

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if yes i do it for memes, exhil is the actual degen.

nimble fiber
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again
dangerous if out of context

rocky marsh
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so you understood the context

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point proven

nimble fiber
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somebody just comes in here asking about chainaxe or something

rocky marsh
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YOU ARENT CLEAN BOI

coarse birch
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we answer questions

rocky marsh
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WASH UP BOI

nimble fiber
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lies I was in the shower today

safe glade
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which weapons are considered bis for crit builds, melee and ranged?

ripe quest
coarse birch
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melee: Chainswords or Evis, Dclaw can also do well as can Hsword. Knife is also good
Ranged: Laspistols are the main ranged option, columnus iag is also good. Bolter is also strong

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however with chastise most guns will work

safe glade
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What about vraks3?

rocky marsh
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don't touch headhunters ;-;

coarse birch
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would probably be fine but youll need to fight supression

safe glade
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I like my vraks3 uwugryn

ripe quest
safe glade
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Dclaw is good now? And evis? I played last 8 month ago so all is new for me

coarse birch
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yeah

rocky marsh
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both gud

coarse birch
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both got buffed

safe glade
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And I remember evis and dclaw being trash

nimble fiber
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both very fun

coarse birch
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yeah they are no longer trash

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8 months ago they were ye

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p sad weapons lol

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dclaw functioned at least

spare talon
ripe quest
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Patch 13 shook up everything. Also to that list Crusher is a good option.

safe glade
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What is it good at? @spare talon

coarse birch
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yeah crit crusher is like

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weirdly good

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very safe

safe glade
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Yea Ive been enjoyinf the crusher

ripe quest
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special > ult > PA > repeat

safe glade
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I was probably one of the rare few who played crusher pre buffs

coarse birch
ripe quest
coarse birch
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that also staggers

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everything

coarse birch
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on a high damage move

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😭

lusty turtle
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i wish to kill CDR

coarse birch
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please

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at least knee cap it

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and make it more conditional

spare talon
# safe glade What is it good at? <@142046391504601088>

its good at generally everything except armor, which isnt a problem when you have options like revolver, bolter, or chastise's armor downgrade paired with crit cdr
it has above average horde clear and decent single target damage, but where it really shines is the special, the parry, which is a special block that has a riposte after someone hits you, which does quite a large amount of damage for how fast it is, and since its a block, you can use both defensively and offensively
you can just play sekiro in the corner with a plague ogryn and take 0 damagee

safe glade
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Lol

open pollen
safe glade
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And you can now have 2 fotf with cdr also

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Nutty af

coarse birch
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even with crit CDRs current implementation it alone is a stupid amount of CDr

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thanks to zealots like 80% uptime with some weapons

spare talon
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i hope they just merge crit cdr with piety

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since piety alone is not that impressive of a keystone

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and its used basically solely for the node before it

safe glade
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So far I like inexorable best out of the keystones, especially because it covers crushers weakness. But more charges from crit cdr is tempting....

open pollen
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You could also have it only active during piety

safe glade
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So lets say you'd go for a dclaw or taxe (I love taxe) crit build, what would be the ideal blessings/perks?

ripe quest
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I think they should make CDR an ult specific thing. An ult should be balanced around the CDR instead of all ults being affected by its presence. Then have Blazing Piety reward crits instead of enabling crit builds.

spare talon
# safe glade So far I like inexorable best out of the keystones, especially because it covers...

fotf/chastise (its old name) gives 20% attack speed for 10 seconds, which is more than you would get with judgement, and you can have it active nearly all the time with crit cdr considering how many targets you can hit per swing with the crusher (and its crit damage is certainly above average too)
judgement does give some unlisted dodge buffs so youd be sacrificing those as well, so youd have to be more careful with your dodges

spare talon
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thats it

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thats all that matters for a crit cdr build
any other blessing is just generally good ones for any build

coarse birch
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They designed ults and then cdr

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Chastise was not meant to exist with current cdr

safe glade
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@spare talon true but chastise + judgement is even more attack speed

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I've been enjoying that alot

ripe quest
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god imagine an ult that can stack on itself if you can ult multiple times while the effects are still up, give it CDR then a higher cooldown. If you can build into proccing the CDR as much as possible you just get like 4-5 stacks of the ult on top of eachother.

spare talon
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though iirc the more atk speed you stack, the less effective it becomes, since it isnt exactly linear
exhil might(?) know the details more than me

maiden path
safe glade
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this a good dclaw?

ripe quest
maiden path
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i haver an idea

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IT IS

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THE SAME

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bpm

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i think

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i have to actually find out ina second

frosty herald
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Hes cooking

spare talon
# safe glade this a good dclaw?

devastating strike to rampage and maniacs to flak and you have a pretty decent one
melee crit change is too small to be worth a perk slot, esp since youll constantly have 50-70% crit chance, but its already locked so whatever

ripe quest
spare talon
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since its gonna be like 5%ish and at that point why put the node there

safe glade
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Ia the mk IV dclaw considered best?

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I hate the mk1

ripe quest
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Mk VII and IV are the fun ones

safe glade
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πŸ‘Œ

spare talon
jaunty lava
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Mk4 as the cleanest moveset and higher dmg iirc

spare talon
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heavy 1 is an overhead, and can basically one shot most weak enemies to the head, allowing you to just sprint from enemy to enemy and gib them

maiden path
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ok isolating the audio is taking a fucking minute

spare talon
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also allows for good damage if you sprint or block cancel to only use overheads against a bigger target

safe glade
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Which gun do you use together with it

spare talon
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heavy 2 is a side sweep and the light that follows is another one, allowing you to have good damage horde clear

jaunty lava
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Any flak/cara penetrating gun

maiden path
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ok

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someone

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can someone please

spare talon
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and all lights are side slashes so you can also just brain off hordes too

safe glade
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As far as crit guns I have this currently:

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not ideal combo for dclaw I'd say thoo

spare talon
jaunty lava
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Same lol

maiden path
spare talon
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since armor is its #1 weakness

nimble fiber
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ayo magneto ain't that bad

maiden path
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i beg of you

safe glade
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do you use the reload tactic in the middle line for revolver?

maiden path
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i am on the verge of swag

safe glade
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I have always hated the revolver for the single reason it has 5 bubllets and long relooad

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but maybe I used it the wrong way idkk

spare talon
maiden path
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THE BPM

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IS OFF

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BY

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10

gray ice
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revolver shooting tree trunks is funny

jaunty lava
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American schoolbus are bigger?

spare talon
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plus it can hit throughup to like 6-7 targets so you can make a trapper alt-f4 even when theyre in the middle of a horde

safe glade
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Would you recon agri shotgun paired well with it?

open pollen
safe glade
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Its one of my fav guns

shell lichen
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Zarona Revolver is just an excellent piece of weaponry

jaunty lava
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I'm in Canada and now i have no idea if our bus are also large

open pollen
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Its hard not to use the Zarona, although I do like how the Agrippa makes me feel like a cowboy

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I just wish it was more accurate when not fanning

spare talon
shell lichen
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100% do spend almost all downtime in mission reloading it but it’s worth

spare talon
shell lichen
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It do

spare talon
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also as you play with it more you get to the point where you can just start reloading it in the heat of the moment and just keep dodging everything as you do

safe glade
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this is the revolver I have rn. Don't have handcannon researched, but I think this will have some potential

open pollen
shell lichen
open pollen
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Revolver "I LOVE reloading during a battle!" Ocelot

safe glade
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LMAO I just consecrated another revolver that I had and got t4 handcannon XDD

spare talon
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other revolver is great btw

safe glade
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bebtter than this one?

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I thought this one woould bbe better because of the carapace and better stat rolls

spare talon
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i think theyre both even, but it just ends up being what you want more of
the other one has a little less crit change/damage
this one has less reload speed

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go fire em both in the psykanium and see which you prefer

safe glade
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67 and 53 isnt taht big a difference

jaunty lava
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Honestly i feel like the lower reload speed hurts more than the lower dmg

spare talon
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thats what i was thinking

spare talon
safe glade
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alrigght πŸ˜›

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I'll research it then

safe glade
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after testing in the psykanium I gotta say I don't notice that much of a difference between the reloads

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@spare talonsorry for another ping, last question: which perk is preferred between flak and maniac?

minor sage
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Theyre both important

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Flak hits 2 gunner BPs, maniac hits flamer and trapper BP i think

safe glade
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and taking carapace wouldn't help with BP?

spare talon
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i actually dont know carapace breakpoints with revolver honestly

minor sage
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I dont know about carapace

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crushers are tanky enough where I just shoot them til they die, stagger with gun then melee, or just melee them lol

rocky marsh
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was there ever a time crusher OH is non interruptable?

minor sage
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the gunner and maniac bps are much more valuable

fleet zealot
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yee problem with crushers is that A) they can be infrequent, and B) elites exist which will give you some crusher damage but also consistency around the board

rocky marsh
vast basin
maiden path
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i put too much work into this to not save it

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but its fucking horrible

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where are those fucking soundcloud guys taht can mix 30 songs in one and make it sound good

safe glade
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for revolver

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guessing flak + maniac is better as they are more common enemy types

vast basin
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Oh, in that case I would personally go maniac+flak/unarmored then

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Flak will give you some gunner breakpoints, unarmoured the same

coarse birch
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Your gonna have rending for cara anyway

safe glade
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true yea

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flak + maniiac it is

rocky marsh
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safety is just a guideline

coarse birch
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Generally if your not sure what perks to run just check what breakpoints what gives you

safe glade
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yea but I can only find out aboout the breakpoint difference if I research one oof the twoo weapons

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because one has t4 handcanon

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and I havent got that researched

sour oxide
rocky marsh
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ok im embarrased to admit

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i never noticed that caxe heavy garuntees crushers stagger (esp mid OH)

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also the timing is just nice that
basically against a solo crusher you just have to dodge every second heavy due to the stagger resist

sour oxide
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prolly hope it be dead after the first OH no?

rocky marsh
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i don't think i have enough damage output for that without chastise

sour oxide
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ah yeah I struggle with axes and armor, but I run tac

rocky marsh
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wait i do, assume they swing double OH
i would kill them on second OH, but they will still wind up the OH itself

sour oxide
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If I ever do run an axe...been on the dagger for too long.

rocky marsh
sour oxide
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When brutal momentum used to trigger on weakspot kill the thing was absolutely savage

rocky marsh
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huh brum still trigger on weakspot kill no

sour oxide
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yeah but they changed the result of BM a

sour oxide
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we are living idiocracy.

maiden path
rocky marsh
frosty herald
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officer boles

sour oxide
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I found a VHS from hollywood vdeo of Ace Ventura...how much?

frosty herald
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30 yen and a 6 pack of beer

sour oxide
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you have me at 6 pack

maiden path
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30 yen is like 0.4 a cent

sour oxide
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yeah but 6 pack is 6

lean galleon
sour oxide
lean galleon
placid fiber
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Welp...here I go again... time to attempt the bullet's past, for the 4th time. :/

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Wish me yet another swift demise lol

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I got the last boss guy down to ~20% hp, the last time I fought him... :/

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I definitely am making progress faster than I did against the marine's past boss :/

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I didn't get that fucker down below 75% hp until the 2nd time I picked up Gungeon, which was roughly a month and a half ago... :/

maiden path
placid fiber
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I died due to succumbing to my 1 weakness... losing track of where I was and where the pits were and losing 2 halfs of a heart to falling damage x.x

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My greatest weakness in Gungeon often is: pits lol

nimble fiber
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coming to chat and immediately seeing a dinosaur, life is goodsassyok

placid fiber
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ikr?

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As long as we have dinosaurs, life will be all right.

frosty herald
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beb

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do you fw skibidi toilet?

autumn briar
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finally I can stop leaving my team KEKW_ogryn

maiden path
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why did sam fisher go to gantanamo bay

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in splinter cell blakclist

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guantanamo

frosty herald
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Sam fisher is a real one

maiden path
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sam fisher is a collaborator in the guantanamo bay acts

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we must bring him to justice

frosty herald
rocky marsh
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Anyone getting 6 crusher blobs or >6 rager blobs?

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Had a scab melee game and max was like a 4 crusher blob

stone fern
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anyone have a good method for just a flesh wound?

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stack health curios and do relay station?

nimble fiber
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no idea uh

astral wolf
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Ngl that mutant penance is broken

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I killed like 5 rushing mutants during my rush in a Maelstrom mission and none of them triggered the achievement

median steeple
visual blade
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how do 3 zealots, 2 with eviscerators and 1 with a crusher, have to rely on a veteran to deal with crushers?

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i did have a chainsword and kraks, thank the master, but like...

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how

visual blade
#

maybe even stealth but i did it on chorus KEKW_ogryn

stone fern
#

nah chorus is legit

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i was trying to do it in stealth now

#

but i had 4 crushers bodyblock me

#

in the doorway

visual blade
#

int a DH, proc revenant, charge up a hit (even with ironhelm) and just smack the shit out of the DH

#

you probably die, but with a penance to speak of your deeds

spare talon
#

i dont think youre thinking of the right penance

visual blade
#

get to 25% through revenant?

spare talon
#

just a flesh wound is the sub 20 heresy with most of it being under 1 wound

visual blade
#

ah shit

#

well, 3 knife zealots

spare talon
#

i get there reliably with dclaw as long as i hit 1-2 heavy attacks on anything

visual blade
#

that was a suggestion for somebody that might be struggling hard

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because tbh, 25% of our health on damnation is doable on anything, with anything, as long as you aren't repeatedly light hitting carapace or a bulwark shield

zinc talon
#

I mean just don't get hit

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what really helped me with that, is in those situations where you're rapidly getting surrounded and all of them are lining up on different timings so you'd blow all your dodges trying to make em all miss you

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when they're all mid-attack and bringing their weapon around to hit you

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you just don't let them do that

#

quality of life vastly improved

spare talon
visual blade
#

poor poxwalker

ornate bone
stone fern
#

πŸ€”

#

you mean shocking stuff?

spare talon
#

damn do you guys not know penance games lmao

maiden path
#

chat what do i buy

stone fern
#

terraria

maiden path
#

i alread yown it fuck u

stone fern
#

helblade

maiden path
#

fuck u

#

noita

stone fern
#

helblade 2

#

buy a pack of smokes and smoke them in the rain while thinking about better games to buy

maiden path
#

too bad noita better then all of them

sterile basalt
#

Preferably bring one of the 2 classes with you:
Veteran (voice of command)
Ogryn (loyal protector)

#

Goal is to get to the ascender event as fast as u can

next crow
#

what about orthus offensive

#

does that work?

next crow
#

i wonder if you can use the bell skip to get the exact timing you need, kill the brother and leave rinda alive

sterile basalt
next crow
#

doesn't have to be on damnation, right

sterile basalt
#

Yea it’s heresy

#

If he has a full team it’s prob ez

next crow
#

yah

sterile basalt
#

Only 2 people tho a bit harder

next crow
#

ogryn with shield can tank rinda until time is up, then you just finish her off

sterile basalt
#

Prob fine

next crow
#

but yeah with just 2 people maybe speedrunning a normal mission is easier

sterile basalt
#

I did Magistrati oubliette mostly

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It’s pretty lenient

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Even on high intensity it’s around 16~17 mins

stone fern
stone fern
sterile basalt
#

I wouldn’t suggest skipping every enemy because you’re eventually gonna run an armored train behind u

stone fern
#

i was helping them do the psyker penance so i just wanted to give it a try as well

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maybe could have worked if we found a low inten mission on the board

sterile basalt
stone fern
#

yeah we were doing the psyker private one

ornate bone
# stone fern πŸ€”

mb for some reason i thought it was the There is nothing but the abyss lmao been too long so i dont rememb penances properly

#

that one is easy with flamer though if u gunna get that

stone fern
#

πŸ€”

#

low hp not 40 killed with stun

ornate bone
#

never had problem with flesh wound one

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know some ppl use stealth stuff and stuns

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think i got the kill 40 stunned one with flamethrower

stone fern
#

ye same

round crater
#

Is it just me or are the tac axes just bad? I feel like I’m missing one with a special move set or redeeming factor

stone fern
#

i only got it when someone was helping me grind another penance tho KEKW_ogryn

stone fern
#

everything taxe can do rashad can do better

ornate bone
#

turtlesky xii or smth and thammer + tigrus mk2 or crusher

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only melee weps i use

split gazelle
zinc talon
ripe quest
round crater
split gazelle
#

BM/Headtaker, I mow through hordes with it on my vet

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I don't think shred is worth it on tac axes since they have built in extra crit chance

#

also vet/zealot talents give crit

round crater
#

I mean you can still do that but they’re nowhere near as versatile as like every other melee weapon

ripe quest
round crater
ripe quest
split gazelle
#

anyone attempting the just a flesh wound penance?

nimble fiber
split gazelle
#

If anyone wants to group up for the penance lmk

sterile basalt
ornate bone
# ripe quest
switch (math){
    case "1+1":
        return 1+1
        break;
    case "1+2": 
        return 1+2
        break;
}
#

And so on and so forth

open pollen
#

So, is the buff to piety worth going down the left path?

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(The left path of piety itself, Stalwart and Infectious Zeal)

misty nova
#

Not really

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I do for the memes

#

Well it was buffed from 33% to 66%

open pollen
#

I really wish there was a better way to see how effective your team-focused talents (Toughness regen, auras, etc) actually are. How many crits would happen that otherwise wouldn't, if such a thing could even be tracked. And of course CDR and Toughness I believe are already tracked internally for the new penances, no? I should check in on the modding discord about it.

spare dome
#

Yeah some stuff you can't realistically track.

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Psyker's Crit Aura Penance only tracks if anybody crits period and you earn points for it.

#

It doesn't even try to only track 'Prescience Crits' exclusively since, yeah, idk how you would

#

Probably the entire function of crits would be entirely different

#

Idk some stuff u just gotta go by feel

#

like i'd love a number to Born Leader but at the same time, i have a pretty good read on what it can do

#

man, i miss having numbers for beacon of purity tho

foggy trail
#

on a mk iv crusher, is damage or penetration more important

spare dome
#

i think the answer is both

foggy trail
#

split between a 80% dam, 51% pen, and a 68% dam, 75% pen

spare dome
#

check flak damage between the two

#

hard to say which will be higher

#

but thats probs the one youll want

foggy trail
#

how do I check flak dmg?

spare dome
#

uhhhh

#

i forget the buttons

#

inspect weapon

#

with V?

foggy trail
#

oh I see

spare dome
#

and then Tab to see the damage breakdown

open pollen
#

What armor type is the tox bomber? I checked the imgur album but I don't think its been updated yet?

north sedge
#

Fart

misty nova
#

Maniac probably

royal vortex
#

unarmored

misty nova
#

Or unarmored because Dreg

sterile basalt
#

Crusher is a fairly simple weapon tho

#

Most of ur dmg comes from Skullcrusher blessing

foggy trail
#

Yeah im just trying to get a decent weapon roll I can use before starting to god roll

foggy trail
#

Ended up doing the higher pen one

fleet zealot
#

the infinite sustain on the right side + more solo bonus is still way better

#

unless you ahve a premade that is spefically building around crit maxing (IE psyker with crit chance and 2 other non left piety side zealots)

split gazelle
spare dome
#

the actual 10% crit aura part is pretty wicked tbh buuuut

#

its w/e the hell

#

comes before it

#

makes the whole package kinda lame for two points

open pollen
#

A lot of the "Gain X toughness when Y happens" where Y isn't something you directly control (Like getting a kill or activating your combat ability") seem wasteful to me. Maybe if they gave toughness overheal if you are already at max toughness?

spare dome
#

Yeah just, something else.

#

Even toughness replenishment

#

would be dramatically improved

ripe quest
sterile basalt
sterile basalt
#

Full body unarmored

sterile basalt
#

Take that info as what u will

spare dome
#

was it actually given toughness or just output

sterile basalt
#

Not sure

#

That’s what I heard

#

Maths wise, there’re 2 scenarios where born leader is actually good

spare dome
#

cause its not too unbelievable a number but i wanna know lol

sterile basalt
#

Gloryhunter (plasma gun)

#

Out for blood (Rashad / power sword mk6)

spare dome
#

god i love out for blood

sterile basalt
#

With those 2 setups you actually spread enough toughness to matter in the worst scenarios

spare dome
#

Mission: Kill Shit

sterile basalt
#

It’s just very funny to me that the most meta viable β€œcombat medic” build revolves entirely around killing everything as fast as possible

#

It’s ironically the imperium’s policy

misty nova
#

"I'm a healer, but..."

spare dome
#

save lives by taking lives (and never saving lives)

ripe quest
#

Fatshark is both scared to make a proper support class and also can't make a game that would need a support class.

spare dome
#

current SoTT isnt too bad

sterile basalt
#

In 3 swings you give every AIC 36 toughness

spare dome
#

or one shredder nade

sterile basalt
#

I don’t think born leader is rly smth that prevents bad situations but it’s usually a lot of small bonuses that help reduce Dmg taken across an entire mission

vestal spade
#

Im back on the rashad withthrowing knives, shroudfield, and momentum, and god you get some good bonks

lucid dune
#

i thought born leader would be 3% of their toughness, not 3% of yours. =)

sterile basalt
lucid dune
#

well 15% i meant

#

but it's based on the vet's toughness?

sterile basalt
#

Based on veteran’s total toughness

lucid dune
#

3x toughness curios + 3x toughness perks would help to max it out...

#

too bad i like 1x health 2x stamina on vet =(

sterile basalt
#

I play 2 toughness and 1 stam

ripe quest
#

You get bits and bobs of support stuff mixed in, similar with how it is in Darktide.

flint imp
north sedge
#

launch sott was psychotic though

spare dome
#

yea but they kick the air all cutesy like so i mean it all evens out

sterile basalt
#

Maybe 2 toughness 1 health

lucid dune
#

i've played a bit of vermintide in the past 6 weeks or so...

#

i just want to run in there with darktide zealot with devil claw I and columnus inf autogun... =D

misty nova
spare dome
#

i wanna bring ogryn over so i can punch a chaos warrior into the ground

lucid dune
#

on martyr zealot i run 3x gunner, 3x stam regen, 3x block

fleet zealot
ripe quest
#

I want Cog Hammer in Darktide so I can raw 2 tap a Chaos Warrior

lucid dune
#

other zealots i run 2x stam, 1x toughness

fleet zealot
#

and you can easily clear enough space or stagger enough to get a pick up

lucid dune
#

with 3x stam regen, 3x gunner, 3x ability...swap ability for corruption resist on grim maps

fleet zealot
#

ability is useless if you are already going cdr, which you are, because that isn't martyrdom curios

#

and stam regen, frankly, we don't need it, we have high stam regen as is

#

i'd also drop 1x gunner, diminishing returns, and get a sniper instead

#

since they are the only threat and it helps get to the tank a sniper shot without toughness breaking Breakpoint

flint imp
ripe quest
#

Zealot in particular wouldn't really need stamina for anything. Has a niche case of preventing block stun if you decided to sprint into combat and then block something, but only by extending how long you can sprint before hitting 0 stam.

north sedge
#

stam doesn't give dodges

fleet zealot
#

that too

spare dome
#

real gigabrains go full block and sprint eff.

lucid dune
#

stam gets you more plasteel... =P

fleet zealot
#

simply put the DT meta doesn't need a ton of stam like the vt2 meta

ripe quest
fleet zealot
#

psykers can go one +3 for deflector

lucid dune
fleet zealot
#

while keeping the same momentum

lucid dune
#

i see ppl open crates...leave plasteel inside

fleet zealot
#

vets can go some stam regen cause their base is slow. but zealot? especially that much.... nah

#

get toughness and HP

leaden pebble
#

not sure where to spend my last points

hushed knoll
flint imp
ripe quest
spare dome
#

shit now exhilious massive eyeballs see you

hushed knoll
#

Hello Exple sd

#

Exploits

spare dome
#

you are doomed

#

we are doomed

fleet zealot
#

stanathan

fleet zealot
#

Exple sd

hushed knoll
#

Hello nandit

ripe quest
#

Exple sd

hushed knoll
#

Bandit

fleet zealot
#

collecting plasteel isn't the end all be all

#

OH FUCK U STAN

hushed knoll
#

:(

flint imp
fleet zealot
#

you can collect plasteel without any extra stam

hushed knoll
#

Cooper

fleet zealot
#

sprint sliding momentum just invalidates it for zealot

vestal spade
fleet zealot
#

but what is most important, especially for damnation QP, is being able to clear the map

north sedge
ripe quest
# flint imp That's why u gotta join the knife gang to get those plasteels

mm, from my games between running meme knife builds and running legitimate ones the movespeed hardly helps. There's natural bottlenecks in movement in missions and you don't need any extra movement speed to catch up unless you're the outlier in a speedrunner group (in which you wouldn't be grabbing plasteel anyways).

fleet zealot
#

taking raw tough/hp scales you up a ton

hushed knoll
#

Is that not Bradley Cooper

placid fiber
#

Huh, I think I've found my favorite Gungeon character... and it surprises me, since it is the Bullet. Mostly due to how defensive I play in games. :/

north sedge
#

no

hushed knoll
#

Who is it

north sedge
#

not even close

#

guess

hushed knoll
#

You said it was Bradley Cooper

north sedge
#

no i didnt

fleet zealot
#

also, your team is going to hate you if you are collecting plasteel while actual shit is goign down

north sedge
#

he's in that movie, that is absolutely not him

#

that is bradley cooper

fleet zealot
#

i still have dark thoughts of the genius knife zealot "collecting plasteel" while we fought a horde, a crusher pack, and a chaos spawn

#

like good for U!

#

u get more plasteel if you win

#

now our 2 vets are down and i'm getting munched on

hushed knoll
north sedge
#

what

#

the fuck

hushed knoll
#

Bradley Cooper was a bearded sniper dude

ripe quest
north sedge
#

stan this movie is from fucking 20 years ago

flint imp
placid fiber
#

Stan... don't make me give you a sentient gun that will drive you even more insane that you already are...

hushed knoll
fleet zealot
#

does 10x more

fleet zealot
#

than being a bit faster

north sedge
#

this is the man in the first picture

fleet zealot
#

or having more stam

north sedge
#

wildly different people

placid fiber
hushed knoll
#

That's Bradley Cooper????

north sedge
#

what

sterile basalt
north sedge
#

stan what the fuck

hushed knoll
#

Who are you saying that is

#

You're confusing me lol

leaden pebble
north sedge
#

im saying that is who was in the first image, literally showed what bradley cooper looks like in the movie

fleet zealot
leaden pebble
north sedge
#

you just have to be vaguely behind the enemy, it's very loose

fleet zealot
#

it's the back half of all enemies so just do one smack to stagger them, then go around

#

i think exhillious has backstab clips

visual blade
#

the flamer sisters

#

loved this match, whoever you were

vestal spade
hushed knoll
north sedge
#

stan

#

this is stabler

hushed knoll
#

Oh that's the same guy?

fleet zealot
#

it's not even posisition, you can circle staggered/knocked down enemies for the finishing backstab

hushed knoll
#

He looks nothing like him

north sedge
#

what

placid fiber
#

Is Stan really confusing himself, with his own arguement?

ripe quest
# flint imp Extra move speed helps when u want to explore more while able to quickly catch u...

On paper, sure. In practice though if you know where stuff is spawning you don't need to explore as much. Even with slower weapons you can grab mats and item spawns, then group up. Main hiccups being if a branching path is effectively backtracking, in which you'd need to get a headstart in advance. Run some private matches and just look at where stuff spawns, trust me it'll be more beneficial than just moving fast.

north sedge
#

stan is just blind

hushed knoll
#

NO

vestal spade
leaden pebble
#

alrighty ill pick it up
i heard somewhere TWBS is shit but i dunno if thats true

north sedge
vestal spade
#

TWBS is awesome

north sedge
#

no twbs is one of the best nodes

#

hands down

leaden pebble
#

oh neat

#

guess ill go for that then

#

thanks

north sedge
#

prevents melee/ranged stagger

hushed knoll
#

I still don't know how to solve it lol

placid fiber
#

@hushed knoll Stan, have a seat on Granpa's lap as he explains to you that you are making this harder on yourself...

hushed knoll
leaden pebble
#

think ill have to pick between 10% atk speed and cooldown on backstab

royal vortex
leaden pebble
royal vortex
#

i do that shit on ogryn

ripe quest
royal vortex
#

lmfao

ripe quest
#

not after the incident.

north sedge
#

he keeps the shit in ogryn

vestal spade
fleet zealot
#

pogryn renamed shitgryn

#

no other changes

royal vortex
#

its a powerful anti-stan ward

south folio
#

uh huh

ripe quest
#

You can farm backstab CDR on fodder enemies, usually a PA > x combo just for the stagger into hit setup. Fun with Thammer because you get a great ragdoll.

hushed knoll
#

Hi Mr. Arc O'tash

frosty herald
south folio
#

I don't talk to criminals

ripe quest
hushed knoll
#

Good thing there are no criminals here

hushed knoll
ripe quest
#

Stan I have broken the law before

leaden pebble
south folio
#

there's a criminal named "Stan" in here

hushed knoll
frosty herald
#

i was sentenced for being too hot

hushed knoll
#

And then you made fun of my asthma

south folio
#

we probably have had it before

ripe quest
south folio
#

i would never make fun of anyone's asthma besides yours

vestal spade
#

See number of 1shots

ripe quest
#

For raw hordes Chainsword hits better numbers.

hushed knoll
vestal spade
ripe quest
#

With mixed hordes and fodder you'd want a BM/Deathblow weapon but even then Chainsword rocks for it.

hushed knoll
#

What about mixed berries

ripe quest
south folio
hushed knoll
#

@nimble fiber what is unclear

hushed knoll
#

Wtf

#

There you go again

nimble fiber
#

@hushed knoll
myers_stare

hushed knoll
nimble fiber
#

as popcorn?

#

sure but I prefer plain sweet popcorn

vestal spade
hard nexus
#

bof

#

?

vestal spade
#

blades of faith, throwing knives

hard nexus
#

oh

#

yah rashad is one of the best axes

#

or the best

#

idk

hard nexus
#

is the unarmored needed?

vestal spade
hard nexus
#

would probably be better to have flak on it for bruisers n ragers

hushed knoll
hard nexus
#

oh

#

fair

nimble fiber
vestal spade
#

Its all about bromentum cleave

hushed knoll
nimble fiber
#

or kettlecorn I guess idk, we just call it sweet popcorn here

#

hbu stan?

hushed knoll
#

I like plain popcorn with nothing on it

#

No salt or anything

nimble fiber
#

I like to dip mine in cheese dip

hushed knoll
#

How do you dip it sus

misty nova
hushed knoll
nimble fiber
#

with uhm my fingers?

hushed knoll
zinc talon
ripe quest
nimble fiber
zinc talon
#

PRIDDY NUMBAS

hard nexus
zinc talon
#

IS BEDR DEN

#

BIGGA NUMBAS

vestal spade
zinc talon
#

oh wait

misty nova
zinc talon
#

yeah there's a 3 on it

#

point and laugh

hard nexus
#

bricked

#

hold x

hushed knoll
zinc talon
nimble fiber
#

because

zinc talon
#

@ripe quest this is the one that DIDUNT URT the psyk crusher

nimble fiber
hushed knoll
#

Go to bedge

zinc talon
#

that needs four, more, damage, to oneshot a t5

hushed knoll
nimble fiber
#

u go to bedgeBedge

ripe quest
zinc talon
#

go ahead

#

look up who jackson pollack is

#

stare for a second, be confuse

#

then gut laugh

hard nexus
hushed knoll
zinc talon
#

it uh, it is not

hard nexus
#

then what

zinc talon
#

his paintings are what I'm leading you twoards

hard nexus
#

ohhhh

zinc talon
#

the art

hard nexus
#

lmfao

#

clever

#

clever girl.....

zinc talon
#

πŸ™‚

hushed knoll
#

Do u wear a schlafmΓΌtze when you bedge @nimble fiber

zinc talon
#

my work here is done

hushed knoll
hushed knoll
#

This is u rn PES_SleepDrool

nimble fiber
#

no, are night caps even a real thing?

hard nexus
#

yeah im wearing mine rn

nimble fiber
#

only saw them in cartoons so far

#

wait are u in a cartoon rn

hard nexus
#

i also have a little candle holder on my bedside

hushed knoll
#

I think they used to be

#

NO wtf

hushed knoll
hushed knoll
hard nexus
#

stan jumpscare

#

give us a

#

like

#

whats the word

#

stanification

nimble fiber
#

kinda sounds like he would turn u into stone

delicate shadow
#

be careful what you wish for

fleet zealot
#

morsel acquired

hushed knoll
#

HI AQUILAAAAA

hushed knoll
delicate shadow
#

holy shit he did it

#

hi stan

hushed knoll
#

I froze my pillowcase again

fleet zealot
#

5 a's at the end

hushed knoll
#

It

fleet zealot
#

wtf

#

how do you

delicate shadow
#

what

hushed knoll
#

It' addicting

nimble fiber
#

what

hard nexus
#

what

fleet zealot
#

freeze a pillowcase

#

WHY

hushed knoll
#

I like the way it feels

nimble fiber
#

I mean technically