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what do you cancel? the put away animation?
Headtaker literally count every enemy hit bro
You pull out the weapon then immediately throw a knife.
It cancels the pullout animation
plasma reload tech
any good shows runnin rn?
still sad that shogun is over
This is incorrect as of patch 13 I believe
WHAT
i like the new xmen
Sprint just as the valve gets closed on the plsama rifle
what
how
i mean i cannot explain the monkey

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theres a new xmen
xmen 97 cartoon
Just feels nice to watch, like stuff is "grounded"?
I have no real compliments or criticisms
how u make small
Teach!!!
i kinda wrote off xmen after like every recent movie was ass
logan was good tho
ass is an exxageration
I loved the '97 cartoon when I was a kid
yoshi knows!

Was this changed? iirc one swing = one hit from my testing a little bit ago.
OI TEACH
The 97 remake is pretty good. They gave magneto the goofiest hoe outfit I've ever seen but apparently it was worse in the original
spider man from 94 or whatever was my favorite together with classic xmen animated series
Headtaker stacks per target hit
Good taste
i think its something in the gif url where you set the size, but i never really figured out how to do it
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Executor (knife & force sword) also stacks per weakspot hit
but fr tho imma give the new xmen show a watch thx
what do i know
If u swing once and hit 5 enemies you get full headtaker stacks
he look faboolos
ye was this changed recently? iirc you could only get one stack per swing 6 months ago or so
No, maybe patch 13 or around that
how make gif small
Headtaker and Executor having mechanics that would fit the other better is classical Fatshark.
i dont think ive ever posted a gif in discord
I recently had to check every veteran blessing 1 by 1 to figure out what exactly they behaved like
( its an emoji )


Did you know that flesh tearer cannot be applied on crit punch with knife
how you convert it to emoji

They nerfed rogue unwatchable ngl
i heard she was essentially a sex symbol in the old one,
in the new one i find that rogue actually has a believable character
you know what i think i know the answer
so i think personally i like the new one more but im not a xmen "fan" so maybe i don't really get it
maybe you just too horni
I believe it was a hidden change in patch 13, they also changed how decimator stacks
xmen 97
uuh 8 episodes, imma binge that
I can send all the blessing stuff I checked so far
Yes thats 40% less
ig if u put it that way
But really I just think of it as a 15% loss
For simpler stacking
Itβs not make or break at the end of the day
like yeah the xmen 97, characters actually feel like people
sex symbols? in my super hero show?
it doesn't feel like ok this is a reaction to something happen
which happens in any sort of media
did u just call yoshi sugar? u an old grandma or something?
thats what rogue calls peepol
its what rogue says a lot
oh lol
shes southern
thats why i :kirbycream:-ed
Sex symbol is a strange term, no? Like, this person isn't just attractive, this person's symbolic... of SEX!
stupid admin not letting me post kirby with some milk across the screen
please do not refer to aquila as stupid

i don't get why discord don't allow you to "steal" emotes even with nitro
fucking telegram lets you steal the whole sticker pack
I think I have watched every non cartoon xmen movie there is and still don't know much about it
movie
yeah idk a ton either
the gyatt skibidi ohio rizz
the movies are mainlyjust action
i didn't even understand the movie with the old deadpool
i didn't even know he was deadpool

@lusty turtle surely this is a bannable offense
gyatt symbol
oh yeah i watched origins too
ye I think I have watched every major movie ( not counting bootleg ones )
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This video idea just popped into my head.
has anyone played dead rising 1 here
aye
all i remembert of dead rsing is the respawning inmates
that played that fuckass song
this montage vanished off the face of the earth. figured id upload it just in case somebody was looking for it.
jared leto song
the only song cod reminds me of is the goodbye mfw2 and the blackops songs
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A bit easy but the story and the gameplay is pretty top notch
its fun for sure
this is ancient
GOATed trailer
also why are you fresh in the server bruh
because im neow :3

liar liar pants on fire
imagine getting remembered 
loved the dI2 parody goat simulator did
whats that kanye song with the same flow as that madworld song
Track 18: Look Pimpin!
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this
had finals and wanted to not be distracted for 3 hours straight by some niche interaction in the game talking about it
From album: "The College Dropout" (2004)
I mean I could smell your rizz from a mile away, sir 
die
if you see parental advisory your about to hear some straight heat or the most dogshit song in your life
buddey das 2000's kanye west
he couldnt do anything but drop the hardest shit ever
if we can't be born on the same day, month and year, at least we could pass on the same day month and year
maybe we couldn't be horoscope buddies now, but we could be horoscope buddies forever


who is a saggytitus
i actually dont think most of my music has a parent advisory warning despite technically not being appropriate now that i think about it
makes me wonder how they go about rating stuff
the only rwo famous ppl i share a birthday with is daredevil and nero the roman emperor
this daredevil btw
we could share days too π π
SHUTUP
bros trying to rizz me up
Used to be able to, and a lot of inside jokes were leakable due to it. For instance, I have servers I'm in with real people's faces and it'd be less than cool if other people could download it for free.
no you already did, to me 
then i would be cautious about using that irl face pack outside of that discord
The OG feature let you download an entire server's emoji list if any of the emojis were posted
ah....
yeah i see that happening now.
discord's access control has always sucked
scrapbook of real peoples faces used in discord emotes like a shitty buffalo bill
like I have some funny ones
but that same server has thanass and thancock and I'd rather not have that be public
there was a zero day of someone becoming admin adjacent on my server
(friend ran a script another friend gave him)
the naked thanos image has ruined endgame
i do not believe discord has ever announced there was such a vulnerability
he didnt even had admin role btw
but he could see server logs
like discord server logs
which ONLY admins could do
Move along officer
I'd show you but you'd ban me.
there were many warning signs
Send it to him in dms
You see everyone here isn't clean.
i'm blowing up zealot chat
good
deserved
I'm hesitant to send naked Thanos to a moderator in DMs.

dm it to me and tell me which mod
im not sure skele wants naked thanos in his dms
skele I feel the same, I come in here and read this
two unrelated things, i assure you
stop lying you aren't clean too
how u know
That'd just be sending it to a mod but with 2 people willingly doing it instead of just one.

sending it to a mod with extra steps
god speaks to me in several ways.
Lets send it through the entirety of Zealot chat then send it to a mod and see who gets banned
it's called separating the conditions, and it's a one way ticket to technical innocence
( everyone )
(its all of us)
if there was ever a ban pass for one emoji/picture i would want it to be kirby cream
if im gonna get skele to ban me from zealot chat ill make sure its better than naked thanos gambling
is it the black porn actor but with thanos face
if yes i do it for memes, exhil is the actual degen.
again
dangerous if out of context
somebody just comes in here asking about chainaxe or something
YOU ARENT CLEAN BOI
we answer questions
lies I was in the shower today
which weapons are considered bis for crit builds, melee and ranged?
I do not appreciate the slander.
melee: Chainswords or Evis, Dclaw can also do well as can Hsword. Knife is also good
Ranged: Laspistols are the main ranged option, columnus iag is also good. Bolter is also strong
however with chastise most guns will work
What about vraks3?
don't touch headhunters ;-;
would probably be fine but youll need to fight supression
I like my vraks3 
Knife, Dclaw, Chainsword, Evis/Caxe/Taxe/Hsword is ok.
Revolver/HH (reduces time needed for crit stacking), IAGs, Boltgun, Laspistol/Agri&Lawby Shotgun is ok
Dclaw is good now? And evis? I played last 8 month ago so all is new for me
yeah
both gud
both got buffed
And I remember evis and dclaw being trash
both very fun
yeah they are no longer trash
8 months ago they were ye
p sad weapons lol
dclaw functioned at least
im the resident dclaw addict
ive used it for about 500 hours now and i can say yeah its pretty fuckin good lmao
Patch 13 shook up everything. Also to that list Crusher is a good option.
What is it good at? @spare talon
Yea Ive been enjoyinf the crusher
special > ult > PA > repeat
I was probably one of the rare few who played crusher pre buffs
very sane and balanced amount of CDR off the also very sane amount of enemies hit
mrw cleave is intended to balance a cleave weapon and you give a cleave weapon inf cleave
i wish to kill CDR
its good at generally everything except armor, which isnt a problem when you have options like revolver, bolter, or chastise's armor downgrade paired with crit cdr
it has above average horde clear and decent single target damage, but where it really shines is the special, the parry, which is a special block that has a riposte after someone hits you, which does quite a large amount of damage for how fast it is, and since its a block, you can use both defensively and offensively
you can just play sekiro in the corner with a plague ogryn and take 0 damagee
Lol
They could also lock the CDR talents, allowing you to only chose one.
even with crit CDRs current implementation it alone is a stupid amount of CDr
thanks to zealots like 80% uptime with some weapons
i hope they just merge crit cdr with piety
since piety alone is not that impressive of a keystone
and its used basically solely for the node before it
So far I like inexorable best out of the keystones, especially because it covers crushers weakness. But more charges from crit cdr is tempting....
Thats pretty smart.
You could also have it only active during piety
So lets say you'd go for a dclaw or taxe (I love taxe) crit build, what would be the ideal blessings/perks?
I think they should make CDR an ult specific thing. An ult should be balanced around the CDR instead of all ults being affected by its presence. Then have Blazing Piety reward crits instead of enabling crit builds.
fotf/chastise (its old name) gives 20% attack speed for 10 seconds, which is more than you would get with judgement, and you can have it active nearly all the time with crit cdr considering how many targets you can hit per swing with the crusher (and its crit damage is certainly above average too)
judgement does give some unlisted dodge buffs so youd be sacrificing those as well, so youd have to be more careful with your dodges
shred
thats it
thats all that matters for a crit cdr build
any other blessing is just generally good ones for any build
100% this
They designed ults and then cdr
Chastise was not meant to exist with current cdr
@spare talon true but chastise + judgement is even more attack speed
I've been enjoying that alot
god imagine an ult that can stack on itself if you can ult multiple times while the effects are still up, give it CDR then a higher cooldown. If you can build into proccing the CDR as much as possible you just get like 4-5 stacks of the ult on top of eachother.
yeah that too, forgot to add that, still not bascially 100% uptime but better when it is active
though iirc the more atk speed you stack, the less effective it becomes, since it isnt exactly linear
exhil might(?) know the details more than me
chaaaaaaaaaat
this a good dclaw?
give it to Ogryn, replace the taunt with it. If you hit 2 stacks enemies actively target you instead, 3 and bosses target you. Call it rampage or smth. Real schmovement instead of just a fart cloud that pisses off enemies
i haver an idea
IT IS
THE SAME
bpm
i think
i have to actually find out ina second
Hes cooking
devastating strike to rampage and maniacs to flak and you have a pretty decent one
melee crit change is too small to be worth a perk slot, esp since youll constantly have 50-70% crit chance, but its already locked so whatever
It's just about relative increases. Fury vs. base is a 20% increase, Fury + Judgement vs. Fury is a 12.5% increase instead of a 15%. You can't stack an immense amount of attack speed so it doesn't matter really.
yeah but its like why i tend to not take the 10% node when stacking momuntum and fury together
since its gonna be like 5%ish and at that point why put the node there
Mk VII and IV are the fun ones
π
i really REALLY like the mk4
Mk4 as the cleanest moveset and higher dmg iirc
heavy 1 is an overhead, and can basically one shot most weak enemies to the head, allowing you to just sprint from enemy to enemy and gib them
ok isolating the audio is taking a fucking minute
also allows for good damage if you sprint or block cancel to only use overheads against a bigger target
Which gun do you use together with it
heavy 2 is a side sweep and the light that follows is another one, allowing you to have good damage horde clear
Any flak/cara penetrating gun
and all lights are side slashes so you can also just brain off hordes too
me personally, i use a surgical handcannon zarona revolver
Same lol
isolate the audio and instrumental of this and send me them separately, https://vocalremover.org/ does this but i cant fucking use it because of ip issues
since armor is its #1 weakness
ayo magneto ain't that bad
i beg of you
do you use the reload tactic in the middle line for revolver?
i am on the verge of swag
I have always hated the revolver for the single reason it has 5 bubllets and long relooad
but maybe I used it the wrong way idkk
its great as a special sniper
quick draw time, one hit to the head kills them, and you never have to worry about missing cuz its hitbox is the size of an american schoolbus
revolver shooting tree trunks is funny
American schoolbus are bigger?
plus it can hit throughup to like 6-7 targets so you can make a trapper alt-f4 even when theyre in the middle of a horde
Would you recon agri shotgun paired well with it?
wider roads, wider loads
Its one of my fav guns
Zarona Revolver is just an excellent piece of weaponry
I'm in Canada and now i have no idea if our bus are also large
Its hard not to use the Zarona, although I do like how the Agrippa makes me feel like a cowboy
I just wish it was more accurate when not fanning
would serve as a more general option, but wouldnt fare as well against armor, which is basically 1 of the 2 reasons i use it with dclaw
but the slug shot instantly opens up bulwarks so its better in other areas
100% do spend almost all downtime in mission reloading it but itβs worth
yeah but like
the reload animation tickles my brain
It do
also as you play with it more you get to the point where you can just start reloading it in the heat of the moment and just keep dodging everything as you do
this is the revolver I have rn. Don't have handcannon researched, but I think this will have some potential
Something, Something, Revolver Ocelot. Something, Something Well Greased Chamber.
Exactly, dodge slides are key for that
Revolver "I LOVE reloading during a battle!" Ocelot
LMAO I just consecrated another revolver that I had and got t4 handcannon XDD
slap it on the other one
and enjoy ignoring 60% of carapace armor
other revolver is great btw
bebtter than this one?
I thought this one woould bbe better because of the carapace and better stat rolls
i think theyre both even, but it just ends up being what you want more of
the other one has a little less crit change/damage
this one has less reload speed
go fire em both in the psykanium and see which you prefer
67 and 53 isnt taht big a difference
Honestly i feel like the lower reload speed hurts more than the lower dmg
thats what i was thinking
inspect the stats closer and see how much of a difference it is
after testing in the psykanium I gotta say I don't notice that much of a difference between the reloads
@spare talonsorry for another ping, last question: which perk is preferred between flak and maniac?
Theyre both important
Flak hits 2 gunner BPs, maniac hits flamer and trapper BP i think
and taking carapace wouldn't help with BP?
i actually dont know carapace breakpoints with revolver honestly
I dont know about carapace
crushers are tanky enough where I just shoot them til they die, stagger with gun then melee, or just melee them lol
was there ever a time crusher OH is non interruptable?
the gunner and maniac bps are much more valuable
yee problem with crushers is that A) they can be infrequent, and B) elites exist which will give you some crusher damage but also consistency around the board
genuine question :p
+elites will give you the same result as +cara in terms of breakpoints on the revolver, 2 hit weak spot crit
dont ever let me in the kitchen again
i put too much work into this to not save it
but its fucking horrible
where are those fucking soundcloud guys taht can mix 30 songs in one and make it sound good
Im asking because I choose between flak + maniac and carapace + flak/maniac
for revolver
guessing flak + maniac is better as they are more common enemy types
Oh, in that case I would personally go maniac+flak/unarmored then
Flak will give you some gunner breakpoints, unarmoured the same
Your gonna have rending for cara anyway
why not just melee ragers 
safety is just a guideline
Generally if your not sure what perks to run just check what breakpoints what gives you
yea but I can only find out aboout the breakpoint difference if I research one oof the twoo weapons
because one has t4 handcanon
and I havent got that researched
Agreed, if you run throwing knives usually just one weakspot hit brings them down.
ok im embarrased to admit
i never noticed that caxe heavy garuntees crushers stagger (esp mid OH)
also the timing is just nice that
basically against a solo crusher you just have to dodge every second heavy due to the stagger resist
prolly hope it be dead after the first OH no?
i don't think i have enough damage output for that without chastise
ah yeah I struggle with axes and armor, but I run tac
wait i do, assume they swing double OH
i would kill them on second OH, but they will still wind up the OH itself
If I ever do run an axe...been on the dagger for too long.
i tried an achyls (iirc, i think it was ach instead of aatrox)
once on vet and told myself im never touching that shit again
When brutal momentum used to trigger on weakspot kill the thing was absolutely savage
huh brum still trigger on weakspot kill no
yeah but they changed the result of BM a
we are living idiocracy.
erm this is just like my favorite movie!!!! idocracy!!!!!! π€
this is obviously satire
But what i see actually happening is that CDs make a comback as "vintage" and people are now buying CDs.
sort of like vinyl.
And im not talking about audiophiles buying CDs to rip them im saying like for movies or whatever
officer boles
I found a VHS from hollywood vdeo of Ace Ventura...how much?
30 yen and a 6 pack of beer
you have me at 6 pack
30 yen is like 0.4 a cent
yeah but 6 pack is 6
Bro. Like 6 Bucks.
Fine you can rewind it yourself
Nah i pass. Thanks.
Welp...here I go again... time to attempt the bullet's past, for the 4th time. :/
Wish me yet another swift demise lol
I got the last boss guy down to ~20% hp, the last time I fought him... :/
I definitely am making progress faster than I did against the marine's past boss :/
I didn't get that fucker down below 75% hp until the 2nd time I picked up Gungeon, which was roughly a month and a half ago... :/
I died due to succumbing to my 1 weakness... losing track of where I was and where the pits were and losing 2 halfs of a heart to falling damage x.x
My greatest weakness in Gungeon often is: pits lol
coming to chat and immediately seeing a dinosaur, life is good

finally I can stop leaving my team 
Sam fisher is a real one
sam fisher is a collaborator in the guantanamo bay acts
we must bring him to justice
Anyone getting 6 crusher blobs or >6 rager blobs?
Had a scab melee game and max was like a 4 crusher blob
anyone have a good method for just a flesh wound?
stack health curios and do relay station?
no idea 
Ngl that mutant penance is broken
I killed like 5 rushing mutants during my rush in a Maelstrom mission and none of them triggered the achievement
The keep giveth and the keep taketh
how do 3 zealots, 2 with eviscerators and 1 with a crusher, have to rely on a veteran to deal with crushers?
i did have a chainsword and kraks, thank the master, but like...
how
hammer and bosses
maybe even stealth but i did it on chorus 
nah chorus is legit
i was trying to do it in stealth now
but i had 4 crushers bodyblock me
in the doorway
int a DH, proc revenant, charge up a hit (even with ironhelm) and just smack the shit out of the DH
you probably die, but with a penance to speak of your deeds
what
i dont think youre thinking of the right penance
get to 25% through revenant?
just a flesh wound is the sub 20 heresy with most of it being under 1 wound
this one can be done with any weapon honestly
i get there reliably with dclaw as long as i hit 1-2 heavy attacks on anything
that was a suggestion for somebody that might be struggling hard
because tbh, 25% of our health on damnation is doable on anything, with anything, as long as you aren't repeatedly light hitting carapace or a bulwark shield
I mean just don't get hit
what really helped me with that, is in those situations where you're rapidly getting surrounded and all of them are lining up on different timings so you'd blow all your dodges trying to make em all miss you
when they're all mid-attack and bringing their weapon around to hit you
you just don't let them do that
quality of life vastly improved
i mean yeah
but we were talking about the penance that requries you to do so lol
poor poxwalker
i did it with flamer
damn do you guys not know penance games lmao
chat what do i buy
terraria
i alread yown it fuck u
helblade
helblade 2
buy a pack of smokes and smoke them in the rain while thinking about better games to buy
too bad noita better then all of them
Toughness + health curios
Speedrun Magistrati oubliette (assassination, torrent)
Preferably bring one of the 2 classes with you:
Veteran (voice of command)
Ogryn (loyal protector)
Goal is to get to the ascender event as fast as u can
i wonder if you can use the bell skip to get the exact timing you need, kill the brother and leave rinda alive
Would u really want to do orthus with <50% health almost the entire time
doesn't have to be on damnation, right
yah
Only 2 people tho a bit harder
ogryn with shield can tank rinda until time is up, then you just finish her off
Prob fine
but yeah with just 2 people maybe speedrunning a normal mission is easier
I did Magistrati oubliette mostly
Itβs pretty lenient
Even on high intensity itβs around 16~17 mins
pfff weak sauce i ate expired supermarket sushi and nothing happened
ye i tried that mission but i was with a psyker and i got bodyblocked from one of the doors by 3 crushers while in stealth lmao
U donβt need stealth
I wouldnβt suggest skipping every enemy because youβre eventually gonna run an armored train behind u
i was helping them do the psyker penance so i just wanted to give it a try as well
maybe could have worked if we found a low inten mission on the board
Flesh wound needs private mission
yeah we were doing the psyker private one
mb for some reason i thought it was the There is nothing but the abyss lmao been too long so i dont rememb penances properly
that one is easy with flamer though if u gunna get that
never had problem with flesh wound one
know some ppl use stealth stuff and stuns
think i got the kill 40 stunned one with flamethrower
ye same
Is it just me or are the tac axes just bad? I feel like Iβm missing one with a special move set or redeeming factor
i only got it when someone was helping me grind another penance tho 
yes
everything taxe can do rashad can do better
Atrox MK VII with brutal momentum is great
well I didn't know that because I'm a lil drunk
They aren't in the best spot, they just offer attack speed and finesse at the cost of everything else. The II and VII are fun.
Yeah Iβve had a go with ideal rolls on all of em trying every combination of bm shred and headtaker. One is significantly worse but the other two are still bad
BM/Headtaker, I mow through hordes with it on my vet
I don't think shred is worth it on tac axes since they have built in extra crit chance
also vet/zealot talents give crit
I mean you can still do that but theyβre nowhere near as versatile as like every other melee weapon
Crits seem to hit a lot more breakpoints than headtaker and shred with blazing piety is like critting every swing
If you can get the buffs up, Shred will allow for nice BPs yes. iirc you hit 90 or 95% crit chance with everything up, you get crit mods for Flak Unyielding and Cara, and it's a finesse weapon. For non-crit builds you'd want Headtaker since the avg. damage increase will be higher.
anyone attempting the just a flesh wound penance?

If anyone wants to group up for the penance lmk
Iβll be home soon
switch (math){
case "1+1":
return 1+1
break;
case "1+2":
return 1+2
break;
}
And so on and so forth
So, is the buff to piety worth going down the left path?
(The left path of piety itself, Stalwart and Infectious Zeal)
I really wish there was a better way to see how effective your team-focused talents (Toughness regen, auras, etc) actually are. How many crits would happen that otherwise wouldn't, if such a thing could even be tracked. And of course CDR and Toughness I believe are already tracked internally for the new penances, no? I should check in on the modding discord about it.
Yeah some stuff you can't realistically track.
Psyker's Crit Aura Penance only tracks if anybody crits period and you earn points for it.
It doesn't even try to only track 'Prescience Crits' exclusively since, yeah, idk how you would
Probably the entire function of crits would be entirely different
Idk some stuff u just gotta go by feel
like i'd love a number to Born Leader but at the same time, i have a pretty good read on what it can do
man, i miss having numbers for beacon of purity tho
on a mk iv crusher, is damage or penetration more important
i think the answer is both
split between a 80% dam, 51% pen, and a 68% dam, 75% pen
check flak damage between the two
hard to say which will be higher
but thats probs the one youll want
how do I check flak dmg?
oh I see
and then Tab to see the damage breakdown
What armor type is the tox bomber? I checked the imgur album but I don't think its been updated yet?
Fart
Maniac probably
unarmored
Or unarmored because Dreg
Penetration is a little higher priority
But ideally u want both to be up
Crusher is a fairly simple weapon tho
Most of ur dmg comes from Skullcrusher blessing
Yeah im just trying to get a decent weapon roll I can use before starting to god roll
Ended up doing the higher pen one
the infinite sustain on the right side + more solo bonus is still way better
unless you ahve a premade that is spefically building around crit maxing (IE psyker with crit chance and 2 other non left piety side zealots)

the actual 10% crit aura part is pretty wicked tbh buuuut
its w/e the hell
comes before it
makes the whole package kinda lame for two points
A lot of the "Gain X toughness when Y happens" where Y isn't something you directly control (Like getting a kill or activating your combat ability") seem wasteful to me. Maybe if they gave toughness overheal if you are already at max toughness?
Yeah just, something else.
Even toughness replenishment
would be dramatically improved
While I don't think they should do it, I think it'd be healthier for balance if they added talents/stat nodes that lowered the "100%" threshold for toughness bleedthrough calcs. It'd function the same as overtoughness but wouldn't have an effect vs. shooters and wouldn't amplify already bloated toughness values.
Yes soon 
Unarmored
Full body unarmored
Someone used power DI and tracked smth like 81k toughness spread to team across a mission
Take that info as what u will

was it actually given toughness or just output
Not sure
Thatβs what I heard
Maths wise, thereβre 2 scenarios where born leader is actually good
cause its not too unbelievable a number but i wanna know lol
god i love out for blood
With those 2 setups you actually spread enough toughness to matter in the worst scenarios
Mission: Kill Shit
Itβs just very funny to me that the most meta viable βcombat medicβ build revolves entirely around killing everything as fast as possible
Itβs ironically the imperiumβs policy
"I'm a healer, but..."
save lives by taking lives (and never saving lives)
Fatshark is both scared to make a proper support class and also can't make a game that would need a support class.
current SoTT isnt too bad
O4B Rashad one hit 40% toughness
On a 200 toughness build, born leader would spread 12 toughness to every teammate per swing
In 3 swings you give every AIC 36 toughness

or one shredder nade
I donβt think born leader is rly smth that prevents bad situations but itβs usually a lot of small bonuses that help reduce Dmg taken across an entire mission
Im back on the rashad withthrowing knives, shroudfield, and momentum, and god you get some good bonks
i thought born leader would be 3% of their toughness, not 3% of yours. =)
Itβs 15% of any non-coherency toughness veteran gets
Based on veteranβs total toughness
3x toughness curios + 3x toughness perks would help to max it out...
too bad i like 1x health 2x stamina on vet =(
I play 2 toughness and 1 stam
yee that's a good example of a somewhat support coded career. Even then, SotT is like half DoT half "enemy can't play the game now".
You get bits and bobs of support stuff mixed in, similar with how it is in Darktide.
Imo I've never felt like I needed a Stam curios for zealot
launch sott was psychotic though
yea but they kick the air all cutesy like so i mean it all evens out
Thatβs for my vet
Zealot I play smth like triple toughness lol
Maybe 2 toughness 1 health
i've played a bit of vermintide in the past 6 weeks or so...
i just want to run in there with darktide zealot with devil claw I and columnus inf autogun... =D
Zealots have 2 nodes of stamina on the right side iirc
i wanna bring ogryn over so i can punch a chaos warrior into the ground
you can block a large amount of trash hits while rezzing ppl...plus the positioning advantages it gives.
on martyr zealot i run 3x gunner, 3x stam regen, 3x block
you get bonus stam as is during pickups
I want Cog Hammer in Darktide so I can raw 2 tap a Chaos Warrior
other zealots i run 2x stam, 1x toughness
and you can easily clear enough space or stagger enough to get a pick up
with 3x stam regen, 3x gunner, 3x ability...swap ability for corruption resist on grim maps
ability is useless if you are already going cdr, which you are, because that isn't martyrdom curios
and stam regen, frankly, we don't need it, we have high stam regen as is
i'd also drop 1x gunner, diminishing returns, and get a sniper instead
since they are the only threat and it helps get to the tank a sniper shot without toughness breaking Breakpoint
Never an issue tbh since u should use your nades anyway and extra dodges is meh as long as u r good at keeping tabs on your dodge counts.
Zealot in particular wouldn't really need stamina for anything. Has a niche case of preventing block stun if you decided to sprint into combat and then block something, but only by extending how long you can sprint before hitting 0 stam.
stam doesn't give dodges
that too
real gigabrains go full block and sprint eff.
stam gets you more plasteel... =P
simply put the DT meta doesn't need a ton of stam like the vt2 meta
My massive eyeballs gives me more plasteel.
psykers can go one +3 for deflector
30% chance roll each teammate has eyeballs
sprint sliding gets me plasteel without building stam cause it doesn't consume it fast enough
while keeping the same momentum
i see ppl open crates...leave plasteel inside
vets can go some stam regen cause their base is slow. but zealot? especially that much.... nah
get toughness and HP
not sure where to spend my last points
Exhillious 
Doughthony 
Just make a auto collect feature for plasteels n Diamantine within a certain radius
That's why you do it yourself if you have bad teammates. Even in premades just with a touch of practice and some Arco magic I usually get 40-50% of the plasteel minimum.
shit now exhilious massive eyeballs see you
stanathan
I'm often more than that
Exple sd
Hello nandit
Exple sd
Bandit
:(
That's why u gotta join the knife gang to get those plasteels
you can collect plasteel without any extra stam
Why is Bradley copper so hot here
Cooper
sprint sliding momentum just invalidates it for zealot
reach right middle for TWBS maybe? Or right bottom red node refund CD on backstabs is good
but what is most important, especially for damnation QP, is being able to clear the map
stan, you need new eyes
mm, from my games between running meme knife builds and running legitimate ones the movespeed hardly helps. There's natural bottlenecks in movement in missions and you don't need any extra movement speed to catch up unless you're the outlier in a speedrunner group (in which you wouldn't be grabbing plasteel anyways).
taking raw tough/hp scales you up a ton
Huh, I think I've found my favorite Gungeon character... and it surprises me, since it is the Bullet. Mostly due to how defensive I play in games. :/
no
Who is it
You said it was Bradley Cooper
no i didnt
also, your team is going to hate you if you are collecting plasteel while actual shit is goign down
i still have dark thoughts of the genius knife zealot "collecting plasteel" while we fought a horde, a crusher pack, and a chaos spawn
like good for U!
u get more plasteel if you win
now our 2 vets are down and i'm getting munched on
That doesn't look like Bradley Cooper at all
Bradley Cooper was a bearded sniper dude
The Vet -> Plasteel pipeline.
stan this movie is from fucking 20 years ago
Extra move speed helps when u want to explore more while able to quickly catch up with the group . Most pubs won't bother collecting every nook n cranny for plasteels if they feel like they are getting left behind imo.
Stan... don't make me give you a sentient gun that will drive you even more insane that you already are...


I'm not insane
proper sprint sliding and KNOWING pathing
does 10x more
than being a bit faster
this is the man in the first picture
or having more stam
wildly different people
WAIT
THIS IS STAEBLER
Don't think I won't duct tape that gun to your back...
what
U still need help?
stan what the fuck
do you backstab enough for that to be useful on a non-stealth?
im saying that is who was in the first image, literally showed what bradley cooper looks like in the movie
you can backstab with a lot of weapons
yeah i meant like
in normal gameplay does it even happen
you just have to be vaguely behind the enemy, it's very loose
it's the back half of all enemies so just do one smack to stagger them, then go around
i think exhillious has backstab clips
If you position well you can reg flank elites and specials that are shooting at your team mates, or just reg shooters. It does require a bit of playing into it
What doe law and order have to do with it
Oh that's the same guy?
it's not even posisition, you can circle staggered/knocked down enemies for the finishing backstab
He looks nothing like him
what
Is Stan really confusing himself, with his own arguement?
On paper, sure. In practice though if you know where stuff is spawning you don't need to explore as much. Even with slower weapons you can grab mats and item spawns, then group up. Main hiccups being if a branching path is effectively backtracking, in which you'd need to get a headstart in advance. Run some private matches and just look at where stuff spawns, trust me it'll be more beneficial than just moving fast.
stan is just blind
NO
Your location compared to enemies is called positioning
alrighty ill pick it up
i heard somewhere TWBS is shit but i dunno if thats true
TWBS is awesome
prevents melee/ranged stagger
@hushed knoll Stan, have a seat on Granpa's lap as he explains to you that you are making this harder on yourself...

think ill have to pick between 10% atk speed and cooldown on backstab
What melee?
ppl who need knife to grab plasteel are WEAK
i like the evis xv and cadia mk3g chainsword
i do that shit on ogryn
I do not like your word choice of "shit" and "ogryn" in the same sentence.
lmfao
not after the incident.
he keeps the shit in ogryn
Evis doesnt really need it if youre doing heavy sweeps, it shines the most on axes and light att spam weapons
its a powerful anti-stan ward
uh huh
You can farm backstab CDR on fodder enemies, usually a PA > x combo just for the stagger into hit setup. Fun with Thammer because you get a great ragdoll.
Hi Mr. Arc O'tash
mfs folding the second they encounter a pox hound or trapper when splitting from the team
I don't talk to criminals
roomba-lookin cutie
Good thing there are no criminals here
π
Stan I have broken the law before
im obsessed with swords
but ill keep an eye out for a good one if i see it
there's a criminal named "Stan" in here
How so
im a convicted criminal
i was sentenced for being too hot
I feel like we had this conversation yesterday
And then you made fun of my asthma
we probably have had it before
something something weapon > missing persons case combo
i would never make fun of anyone's asthma besides yours
The rashad is the king of clearing hordes. The tac axes are faster and less punishing but also lack the punch of the rashad
See number of 1shots
For raw hordes Chainsword hits better numbers.
You made fun of my heavy breathing
What
chaff only?
With mixed hordes and fodder you'd want a BM/Deathblow weapon but even then Chainsword rocks for it.
What about mixed berries
For fodder Chainsword is on top, for bruisers mixed in it's super competitive but build reliant.
sick bastard
@nimble fiber what is unclear

@hushed knoll

Do you like caramel corn
Im playing shroudfield, BoF, momentum, and damn the clear on special and elite groups with the rashad is pog. Really nice change from using rev to blades for picking targets
blades of faith, throwing knives
I really like the tac mk2 & 4 too, but the rashad is amazing https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1162275718563110933/1236560724717736036/image.png?ex=663bc02a&is=663a6eaa&hm=d040c230930fb0e00171f23063021f7d2f1ec7e82673fd5ed60cf339f45e8855&
is the unarmored needed?
Yes it passes the BP for bruisers
would probably be better to have flak on it for bruisers n ragers
You mean kettle corn
nah I mean popcorn
Its all about bromentum cleave

I like to dip mine in cheese dip
How do you dip it 
Heck yeah

with uhm my fingers?

You wouldn't need that if you have buffs up. Headtaker, Sustained Assault, and Judgement should be able to hit it, even more-so with the +5% melee damage nodes.

PRIDDY NUMBAS
worlds worst... staff?
MT randomiser
oh wait
What a nice looking hammer
Why are you not in bedge
because
@ripe quest this is the one that DIDUNT URT the psyk crusher

Go to bedge
that needs four, more, damage, to oneshot a t5

u go to bedge

go ahead
look up who jackson pollack is
stare for a second, be confuse
then gut laugh
is it his hair
No you
it uh, it is not
then what
his paintings are what I'm leading you twoards
ohhhh
the art
π
Do u wear a schlafmΓΌtze when you bedge @nimble fiber
my work here is done

This is u rn 
no, are night caps even a real thing?
yeah im wearing mine rn
i also have a little candle holder on my bedside
nah


kinda sounds like he would turn u into stone
be careful what you wish for
morsel acquired
HI AQUILAAAAA

I froze my pillowcase again
5 a's at the end
It
what
It' addicting
what
what
I like the way it feels
I mean technically


