zealot-class

[misty mason]

It should be Aqua like in latin

[hushed knoll]

Come on French

Do better

[misty mason]

TF, I hate France now

[hushed knoll]

Sorry to hate on your native linguini Keet

But

"l'eau" is so lazy

[misty mason]

Slaps aquaduct, this boy can duct so much l'eau

[polar nexus]

Etymology
edit
From Middle English ea, eo, from Old English ēa (“running water, water, stream, river”), from Proto-Germanic *ahwō (“waters, river”), from Proto-Indo-European *h₂ekʷeh₂ (“water, flowing water”). Doublet of aqua. Compare ea, yeo. Related to, and spelling influenced by, but not derived from French eau (“water”).

[hushed knoll]

Eau de Toilette

I love using toilette water

Pour longtemps

Longtemps is another word

[misty mason]

Good old odour toilet

pamplemousse

[hushed knoll]

In my old car i had french airbag warnings that said "même avec les gonflables intelligents"

[median steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/get-out-of-my-head-gif-24390027

[hushed knoll]

Doesn't that mean intelligent pillows

[polar nexus]

My god

[median steeple]

I hated trying to learn french it never took and now im cursed with only understanding a couple of words

[misty mason]

gonflables is an excellent word

[hushed knoll]

"Even with advanced air bags"

Was the english

Was the sign about how you can be hurt

I think they put it in french for canada

[misty mason]

Is gonflables the word for pillow

[hushed knoll]

Idk

Cushion I think

I don't think I spelled it right

[misty mason]

10/10

[hushed knoll]

Oh wait

Coussins gonflables intelligents

I think gonflable is inflatable

[misty mason]

Try doing 6 months of Latin at University

[hushed knoll]

@polar nexus help

[polar nexus]

yes

it's inflatable

[hushed knoll]

OMG I'M A FRENCH MASTER

Intelligent inflatable cushions

[misty mason]

https://tenor.com/view/thumbs-up-danny-mullen-well-done-good-job-mime-artist-gif-12203074587762853890

[hushed knoll]

Keet you are a great teacher

[polar nexus]

Pillows are primarily for rest and sleep, while cushions blend comfort, support, and decorative elements.

[hushed knoll]

What is coussins

Inflatable cousins

[polar nexus]

i don't think we have a different word

[hushed knoll]

Wait that does NOT sound right

[polar nexus]

it's coussins

[hushed knoll]

Alabama moment

[polar nexus]

and we call airbags just airbags

or erbague

[median steeple]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/907053130640932875/1114000592885530715/4D73EFC0-CA10-4472-965E-2E815E8AB7BE.gif

[hushed knoll]

It's prob a quebec thing

[polar nexus]

yeah

[hushed knoll]

I like how shaving cream is gel a raser

Most of my toiletries have french on them lol

[polar nexus]

we need them to mask the odor

[hushed knoll]

😂

[polar nexus]

you know, there's no running wa'er in Paris

[hushed knoll]

No running eau

[polar nexus]

<_<

[hushed knoll]

What is "to run" in French

[polar nexus]

courir

[median steeple]

doesnt it also smell like piss or is that a lie

[polar nexus]

hmm

[hushed knoll]

l'eua courir?

[polar nexus]

it depends where you go

[hushed knoll]

Courante?

[polar nexus]

yes courante

[hushed knoll]

OMG

I AM AMAZING

[royal vortex]

p close to spanish

[hushed knoll]

You're still not latino

[royal vortex]

racism

[hushed knoll]

Josho I am basically french now

[median steeple]

my condolences

[hushed knoll]

With my smart inflatable cushions and my shaving cream and running water

[royal vortex]

this must be harrowing news for the french

[polar nexus]

having lived in Australia and traveled a bit, yeah i find Paris kind of gross

[hushed knoll]

I have relatives that went to Paris and they didn't like it tbh

They said it was way too crowded

[polar nexus]

probably like most big european city

[polar nexus]

i agree

[hushed knoll]

Which is weird cuz they've been to NY lol

[median steeple]

Paris syndrome my beloved

[polar nexus]

i worked there for like 7 years in total?

couldn't live in Paris intra muros

just not possible

[hushed knoll]

I heard that people have holsters for their baguettes

Is this true or just a joke

[polar nexus]

you have to realize that it's a city where 3 millions people live

[median steeple]

its like americans and their twisted tea

[polar nexus]

and about 10 come and go for working

[hushed knoll]

Berlin has more people but is more spread out

[polar nexus]

like London i presume

[hushed knoll]

I've never been to Paris tho

[polar nexus]

i liked London

[hushed knoll]

NYC is the worst city

[median steeple]

pretty sure it's just Paris since the age of the city

[hushed knoll]

I grew up in its shadow so maybe I'm biased

But still

[delicate shadow]

I did not like london

[hushed knoll]

Omg Hi Aquola

[median steeple]

NYC doesn't smell like anything other than gas iirc

[hushed knoll]

FUCK

ONE TiIME

I WILL GET HIS NAME

[polar nexus]

compared to?

[delicate shadow]

pretty much anywhere

I liked the history stuff but the city itself is balls

[misty mason]

Well I've never been to Europe or the Americas

[spare talon]

oh i just learned that hades 2 is now available
early access, but available

[misty mason]

Oh true

Controversial opinion here but, Hades was a good game

[polar nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/kiwi-kiwi-qui-court-gif-17624315774817574064

[median steeple]

like 90% of the cities here look the same

besides like the major or notable ones

[misty mason]

I wanna go to Cologne and see the fucken big cathedral

[spare talon]

https://tenor.com/view/silly-cat-silly-car-car-stare-10-thousand-yard-stare-10-thousand-yard-gif-14200271775968563996

[north sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/hades-hades2-game-awards-melinoe-zagreus-gif-27225303

[polar nexus]

the backcountry is the most interesting part

[median steeple]

Phoenix Arizona is hella short for a city

[spare talon]

youre telling me they made the titular Hades you play in Hades now a WOMAN in Hades 2? gaming has truly gone too woke

[median steeple]

I guess it depends on which state/province because I can with 100% certainty say that the prairie areas are the same

[north sedge]

True!

[ornate bone]

armory extension still workin?

[spare talon]

yes

[polar nexus]

wait what??? there were always women in Hades??????

[north sedge]

Go woke go uh....directly into my steam library

[misty mason]

Whats next? Making Zagreus some kind of political sexuality, like non straight?

[spare talon]

AHHH! SO SCARY!!

[ornate bone]

do i have to click on user preferences or smth cus i dont see the shop

[polar nexus]

NO BIG TITTY MOMMIES

[misty mason]

The Ancient Greeks would be so mad if they saw a non straight character

Known straight dudes those greeks

[median steeple]

listen I'm a gamer™️ women and minorities scare me

[spare talon]

i havent changed anything since installing and its working just fine for me

[polar nexus]

the tiny villages, the ''terroir''

[polar nexus]

how does that work?

what do i need to do?

[misty mason]

I bet Achilles and has boybest friend Patroclus would be so mad about Hades 2

[spare talon]

search up darktide armory extension
install it
open it
sign in

[ornate bone]

it just shows account details and user preferences for me

firefox

[spare talon]

then you havent installed it

[polar nexus]

you forgot create a psn account

oh wait, lol

<_<

[spare talon]

idk if it can work on firefox
can they use chrome extensions

i know edge can

[polar nexus]

vivaldi too

welcome to the chromium empire

[ornate bone]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZybaBFjNEjQ

[median steeple]

maybe I got to look harder but all the small towns I've visited have been the same, areas with mountains have been more varied

[misty mason]

Goes to Venice - "Wow Bern is so beautiful."

[median steeple]

I think

nevermind I do not

[misty mason]

OK Descarte

[north sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/hades2-hecate-melinoe-gif-27229678

[spare talon]

do i keep grinding d*stiny, play more darktide, start hades 2, or continue my elden ring run to refresh myself on it before the dlc

[delicate shadow]

either of the latter 2

I mean uhhhh only darktide, darktide only

[spare talon]

im at like 20-25/50 of each hazard penance and like 120/250 aurics lmao

[north sedge]

Hades 2 or elden ring (or both)

[spare talon]

im really ass at elden ring honestly

i decided to try a parry build given that i had played lies of p and sekiro since then and absolutely stomped those games

but god i fucking hate the parries in elden/souls

[north sedge]

Yea sekiro parry is totally different

[spare talon]

im aware and it makes me sad

[north sedge]

Just a very different game combat wise

[median steeple]

fromsoft making bloodborne and sekiro have decent to great combat just to never use it again

[spare talon]

i tried bloodborne and hated it for 2 reasons

biggest one is 30 fps constant stutters and drops and input delay why are you fucking only on a ps4

[median steeple]

yeah I love the game but I cant play it anymore since 30fps hurts my eyes

[spare talon]

and the other is just the general lack of responsiveness that the fromsoft games come with to make it "harder" (more annoying to play)

[misty mason]

Bloodborne pc release when

Also bb 2

[median steeple]

the only general lack of responsiveness I ever noticed in souls games is in DS1 and 2

maybe the OG DES but I never played it

[spare talon]

whats weird is this is my favorite weapon in lies of p and it functions very similarly when compared to souls/elden parries

the delay before the window

[coarse birch]

yeah ER parry is totally different

you generally need to be close to get a parry and not all moves are parryable

[misty mason]

iirc LoP has a super generous parry window vs soulborne

[coarse birch]

without real indication they arent parriable

and some bosses take multiple parries for a riposte

[median steeple]

I mean bloodborne had a crazy generous parry window

[coarse birch]

the only boss i parry is godskin noble tbh

[median steeple]

I cant even parry in ER at this point

[coarse birch]

golden parry or buckler parry will heko

help

[misty mason]

Imagine parrying

[coarse birch]

yeah parrying in ER is like

[misty mason]

Just kill better

[coarse birch]

pretty mid

ngl

[north sedge]

Plus in bloodborne you parry with a fucking gun

[spare talon]

i think its more lies of p having an accurate parry window

cuz in elden ring

yeah....

that red spark is the attack being parried

[coarse birch]

i only learned to parry noble because i was doing a run in which it was by far my best source of damage

otherwise i would just dodge like usual

[misty mason]

I dunno why I think of Elden Ring as Elden Dring

Im probably mildly dislexic or something

[delicate shadow]

olden rung

[misty mason]

Ah, I see you played it in the original Old English

[delicate shadow]

old english has a lot in common with stanisms tbh

[misty mason]

I like that your stan-nomen sounds almost more Roman

Quialal, Aquiaus, Aquolas

[coarse birch]

he is an english teacher and he does like history

[delicate shadow]

old english be like "heat the water until it is BOYLENGE"

[coarse birch]

you might like parrying in DS3 more, its less restrictive

[misty mason]

That sounds like early modern english

[coarse birch]

you dont need to be up against the guy to parry

[misty mason]

Americans be like
Bologne

[coarse birch]

which is my biggest annoyance with it in ER

[spare talon]

i played ds3 just recently
i found the katana parry to be the easiest

[coarse birch]

ive only done empty hand parry in DS3

not sure how the katana one is

[spare talon]

and would have it in my offhand to fucking obliterate pontiff in 30 seconds

[delicate shadow]

https://tenor.com/view/cheerio-hat-tip-gif-10803496

[misty mason]

weeb

[royal vortex]

with how long ur fkin bossfights take it aint a run. it's a scenic walk

[coarse birch]

ok that one was only 30 mins

however i like couldnt get hit twice

which is not the case in this run

on the other hand the boss fight will be 5 hours

[royal vortex]

stinkiest winkies is powerful

[spare talon]

fucking hades 2 doesnt have a frame cap??

[median steeple]

what middle ages people called venison piss me off

[misty mason]

It is distressing

[spare talon]

oh it just sets it to your monitors hz

ig thats fine

[coarse birch]

just view this as your version of hitless MGR

[royal vortex]

shut up

[coarse birch]

honestly i might view the MGR thing as more impressive still

[royal vortex]

that shit sucked

bunch of hidden levels n stuff

so goddamn annoying

[coarse birch]

yeah i bet it did

game was not meant to be no hit

[royal vortex]

they had an entire no-hit rank

yes it was

except for all the parts where it wasn't

[coarse birch]

i was gonna say

it does exist

im not sure they properly designed it for that

[royal vortex]

u get s-rank w/ enough style points or no hitting

[median steeple]

he needs mouse bites to live

[royal vortex]

sometimes u have to get enough style points on top of no hitting if ur doing no hit

which is annoying

[coarse birch]

i cant say shit though, some of these bosses were also not meant to be fought for 5 hours

[spare talon]

aw hell yea time for more ooga brain itching numbers

[delicate shadow]

I'm a stinky drinky jesus sometimes

[royal vortex]

no-hit armstrong is the most infuriating fucking experience

[sonic totem]

Is Hades 2 out already?

[spare talon]

early access

[coarse birch]

really? i remember him being one of the easier ones

[royal vortex]

because there's multiple checkpoint cutscenes where he can hit you and start the cutscene before you can hit the reload checkpoint button in the pause menu

nope

[sonic totem]

Ah fuk

[royal vortex]

he's the worst

[coarse birch]

monsoon was the annoying one iirc

[royal vortex]

by far

[sonic totem]

Thanks

[royal vortex]

at least monsoon you can restart the fight instead of the whole level if he fucks you 🙂

[spare talon]

i still need to beat mgr
ive only fought the first 2 bosses

[royal vortex]

can't with armstrong if you get unlucky

[coarse birch]

oh right

[royal vortex]

the hard part is no-hitting the bosses which i did

[coarse birch]

you dont have to full reset the game when you get hit

[royal vortex]

the tedious part where i eventually gave up was doing the normal missions

because i would go through an entire level and miss 1 hidden area

and u have to do

the whole fucking thing

again

[coarse birch]

yeah i was picturing resetting the entire file on hit i forgot you can reset checkpoitns

normal missions are what i was picturing would be the most annoying

cause some enemies just do shit

[royal vortex]

get shot for 0.4% chip damage

have to restart checkpoint 20 times

[coarse birch]

yeah guns in parcticular

god forbid you let go of shift

[royal vortex]

also the sam DLC just sucks and i will not hear otherwise

hated the gameplay so much i turned it off at bladewolf

[coarse birch]

i was doing that shit and then i did the VR missions thing

and i was like

[royal vortex]

i never touched the vr missions

[coarse birch]

what am i playing

i think they forgot to balance them

cause shit was dumb

[royal vortex]

the sam one was just we reuse assets but we also make them faster which is just so fucking annoying

[coarse birch]

i wasnt cracked but it was very clearly like

what the fuck

and yeah he just felt like worse raiden

never did the bladewolf DLLC

[royal vortex]

getting good at mgr sucks because all the optimized strats are shitty cheese

and otherwise you're brute forcing your way through bosses that are not designed to be meticulously fought in a normal way and going for no hit

[coarse birch]

i remember i could air launcher sundowner and just like

win

[royal vortex]

sundowner is just depressing

[coarse birch]

i did it on accident too

[royal vortex]

sam is probably the best bossfight

[coarse birch]

i just did an airlauncher combo and could full juggle him to death

sam is good and i liked armstrong a lot when im not no hitting

[royal vortex]

i could never get the armstrong "cut the piece of ground or get hit" thing to work on mouse and that took some of the fun out of it because i had to just run under him until he stopped throwing

[coarse birch]

huh

i dont remember having an issue with that

although running under is probably safer

[royal vortex]

my brain could not comprehend the motion i had to do to make it work so i just looked up how to get around it

[coarse birch]

you lose out on the QTE damage

[royal vortex]

damaging armstrong isn't really the hard part tbf

[coarse birch]

yeah

i remember you could beat him up p hard

[royal vortex]

sometimes u just get caught in a dumb move and its like alright

[coarse birch]

and then he tries to heal

and you do 8 billion damage

[royal vortex]

and then u just destroy him every time

[coarse birch]

mistral or monsoon was probably my least favorite, mistral is mostly fine but i remember on revengance she ran away a lot in what ill call phase 2

idk what else to call it

monsoon i just found uninteresting

he does like 2 moves

smoke and throw shit at you from above

then he throws the wheel and i run around

like fight me please

[royal vortex]

the white phosphorus grenade shouldnt have the very slight amount of explosion damage

and that section where he disconnects his bodyparts to hit you and you have to parry him and do something really annoying to be able to damage him again also sucks

[coarse birch]

do you have to dodge it?

the grenade

[royal vortex]

yes

[coarse birch]

i wasnt aware of the dodge till very recently

so i just got hit by it lol

i figured it was unavoidable

[royal vortex]

it's v annoying

[coarse birch]

although even after i learned about the dodge i think i barely used it

honestly

not that ive played a ton since finding out about it

i just got so used to sprinting to dodge yellow attacks

[royal vortex]

there's a lot of times where the dodge lets you counter a lone attack and transition back into a combo so u dont have to sit there on the parry

i think on the armstrong mech fight you can use it

[coarse birch]

yeah you almost had to cause the parry damaged you a decent amount

also thats actually my least favorite fight

i forgot about it thats how mediocre it was

[royal vortex]

yea

[coarse birch]

he also had a grand total of like 2 moves

and then laser that you hide behind the mechs for

and one you dodged by uh

holding shift

very interesting

[royal vortex]

not the best part of the fight for sure

[coarse birch]

had spectacle at least

that helps it a bit

however i seperate spectacle and quality of the boss cause idc if it looks cool if the gameplay part of it sucks

[royal vortex]

yea

[coarse birch]

which im convinced is the sole reason people have every boss in elden ring as very good

or im just a nerd and have fought the bosses too much and uncovered the secrets they hide

where its no longer "im bad and dont get it" and its just poorly designed

[royal vortex]

some of the first stuff u remember about a fight is how cool it was

[zealous basin]

https://tenor.com/view/drake-censored-kendrick-lamar-diss-track-clapping-gif-10684776723301882434

[coarse birch]

yeah if people just fought the boss like one or two times

i get it

but if your like deep diving into the boss or really familar with how it works there is some i unironically dont think can be defended

so in response i fight them for 5 hours 🙂

one day ill do a run where i do damage

im debating learning no hit at some point, i can do damage in those runs at least

[zealous basin]

https://soundcloud.com/metroboomin/bbl-drizzy-bpm-150-mp3

thoughts?

[meager vigil]

whats poppin zealot chat

[fleet zealot]

Elden ring is sheer volume

[meager vigil]

i like elden ring bosses

[fleet zealot]

Watching people play the game i can see why they enjoy it but you start noticing repeats and issues

I think i watched one of my friendos take 100+ tries on margit

Tho tbf

She never played a souls game before

Only seen her play league, dbd, and valorant before

[polar nexus]

a GIRL

playing a GAME???

[drowsy steppe]

impossible

they're not real

[polar nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/impossibru-impossible-gif-15724984

[coarse birch]

Yeah it def fell into a trap of trying to fit everything in

Even major bosses were affected by this

There are some bosses in that game i am fully convinced were not playtested and if there were they fought the boss once

Gideon is my prime example but nearly any duo boss (esp godskin duo) and fire giant are also up there

[misty mason]

I think I did godskin in one or two attempts

Dual gargoyles tho

[royal vortex]

souls games are for nerds

and im not one of those

[misty mason]

Josho is the UberGamer

Has no concept of what grass even is

[fleet zealot]

Souls games fall into games that make me perma stressed

So i dont play em

I need downtime

[misty mason]

I enjoy total war if im wanting something chill

Auto resolve go brr

[spare talon]

This is what happens to me cuz of how just builds and stats work

[polar nexus]

https://www.reddit.com/r/shittydarksouls/comments/1clq5nj/midborne_fans_are_ignored_once_again/ LOL

my god

[spare talon]

You have to invest a lot over the course of your run to make a build
And that assumes you even know what you want to begin with

If you change your mind later, gotta go find and spend one of the scarce macguffins to rebuild your character and see if you like something else better by starting all over again

[ember yew]

For some strange reason for many years

Sony acts like Bloodborne don't exist

Either they are cooking PS7 remake or don't give an F about it

[coarse birch]

Yeah first playthrough they werent bad for me

[polar nexus]

probably forgot about it tbh

[misty mason]

It's weird that it's still the only PS exclusive

[spare talon]

and its the one that would make the most money if it wasnt an exclusive anymore

[misty mason]

Realistically it's probably a licensing or publishing thing

AKA the usual shit that ruins games

[wicked sage]

Ironhelm Vs XV Eviscerator
Ironhelm light attack twice at poxwalker right in front of you, misses twice
XV Eviscerator light attack all the time, murder everything

Ironhelm charged heavy may kill that mutant but sometimes it won't
XV Eviscerator dead mutie guaranteed

[ember yew]

it's either that or they have a problem with code/game itself, since From Software aren't going back and do a remake for Sony and Bluepoint games (Shadow of Colossus and Demon's Souls remake sony's studio) is pretty busy

rumours says they are doing Metal Gear remake right now

[polar nexus]

what's the perks, blessings, the combos you're using

[latent vortex]

martyrdom maxxing. play sedition only. get more power

[ember yew]

They still keep this guy

[austere lagoon]

lacerate or executor instead of flesh tearer for a hypothetical improved version of this?

[spiral anvil]

Lmao I called it when I saw the first post

[ember yew]

I would use Unyelding damage instead of Carapace, as for the perks, it's flexible. Instead of Flesh Tearer the choices are Precog, Riposte, Mercy Killer.
I'm not a big fan of Executor, but some people use that.

[austere lagoon]

does executor get multiple stacks from cleave or just 1 per strike

[oak ermine]

It can get multiple

[polar nexus]

you can get multiple stacks

but you can drop them quite fast sadly

[wicked sage]

Eviscerator: Momentum 3 and Perfect Strike
Ironhelm: two 4 pointers one that gives power on hit and one that gives impact on kill or hit (?), also trying the one that reduces mass on kill. I didn't like Thrust

I'm mostly annoyed with how often I simply miss enemies right in front of me

[polar nexus]

ok so for evis, that's not really a good pairing

you want shred + perfect strike

but mostly rampage + shred / momentum / bloodthirsty

ironhelm : headtaker is excellent, so is slaughterer

skullcrusher is fine and plays well with the heavies

and the other big blessing is thrust

because you take a hammer to bonk bosses

hitting ennemies correctly takes practice with a hammer (and the crucis is wayyy more finicky)

with ironhelm you can just spam heavies

or do push + attacks

[south folio]

what do you mean that the ironhelm attacks miss? do you mean that you don't like the attack patterns or

[polar nexus]

also you compare a combo-y weapon with the king of mash m1

[wicked sage]

Light attack a pox walker, right swing misses it, left swing hits

[polar nexus]

most pox walkers are in a horde so why not doing heavies oO

[wicked sage]

It was a lone poxwalker in my way, same with chaf dregs etc...

[polar nexus]

also, hitting takes practice, i still miss with some weapons after a lot of hours in the game

[wicked sage]

I like my hammer but the hit area is weird sometimes

[sinful widget]

just use a crusher and turn off your brain

[wicked sage]

Same with the Eviscerator XV

[steel agate]

I love spaming special light into hordes

[sinful widget]

i prefer using impact blessings and go ragdoll any maulers i see

[leaden pebble]

i love when darktide hits me with the

and i have to alt+f4

[sonic totem]

s p e e n

[spare talon]

Hardest boss
Fatshark pls nerf

[placid fiber]

Hey, guys, I found Gollum in Enter the Gungeon!

[ivory marlin]

I love brisk iced tea

[placid fiber]

As you should.

[ivory marlin]

Isnt it past your bedtime?

[polar nexus]

I am making myself medecine

[placid fiber]

It's time to go murdicate the lich with my alpha bullets grasschopper >_>'

[rocky marsh]

You been playing gungeon for like 2 months alr xD

[autumn briar]

Regarding backstabs, someone told me that I don't even need to use a knife - that just Rashading two gunners in the back of their head while sneaking is already enough and faster too?

these are like the last two zealot penances I gotta do

[placid fiber]

Yeah, and I am still having a lot of fun playing Gungeon as well. :3

[spiral anvil]

Any old weapon would do, ideally a weapon that can kill multiple elites in one swing

[autumn briar]

I see. I been trying to do that with a knife and didn't really have a good time as you can see by those numbers

I'll try the Rashad on this one too then

always back to the Rashad lol

[placid fiber]

Heh, once you start the Lich's fight you can't back out. I decided I would check since it gave me the option to teleport to one of the other warp points. >.>

[sonic totem]

A small tip to get the backstab consistently is to push the enemy to stagger them, then dodge behind them to get the attack. Without the stagger, they will turn around enough that the backstab won't count, no matter how much you dodge

[autumn briar]

[sonic totem]

Ofc shroudfield makes that advice irrelevant, but it's for those moments when shroudfield isn't up and you see a horde of shooters/gunners which you can farm

Also works great if you take the talent before momentum that gives you 20% reduced cooldown on backstab kills

[autumn briar]

yep, already running that one

hmm, for Shroudified subtalents, do you recommend the one that gives me 50% more backstab damage or +3 sec duration of it?

[sonic totem]

3 second duration

Both for the penance (cause the 50% damage also gives increased cooldown), and also general use, since 3 seconds of stealth is very little time to get anything done

The only time I'd say the 50% backstab damage is good is if you're running thunder Hammer and want big boom damage

[autumn briar]

ye I kinda been struggling with the 3 second window, since I was so used to the stealth Vet who seemed to have a lot more time to stay invisible to reach the shooters

so I'll take the extra 3 secs

does executing someone from behind with a revolver also count as a backstab?

[sonic totem]

I don't think so....?

At least not for the penance, I don't believe

Which is weird, because zealot specifically does get perks for increased damage on ranged backstab

Do let me know if I am wrong though because my zealot brain never even considered that possibility when attempting the penance

[ivory marlin]

Go to bed cole

[autumn briar]

will do. But at least I can report back that the Rashad "push backstabber" is working well. Already at 53 out of 200

it felt really anemic with the knife lol

[sonic totem]

Heck yeah brother

[placid fiber]

Welp, take 3 at fighting the bullet's past... x.x

Wish me luck, or a swift demise lol

sigh time for this annoying guy...

[opaque ginkgo]

knife zealot (derogatory) (its me, im the knife zealot)

[wicked sage]

Been doing Unseen Assassin with a Thunder Hammer, good fun

[sharp oyster]

I made a thing, now I need thrust

How do you build your tree with hammer?

[ember yew]

this will leave you with one point

that you can use 10% attack speed

or Duelist

[sharp oyster]

That's basically the same tree I use for Evicerator

[ember yew]

that's in general one of the strongest routes

for a lot of weps

[sonic totem]

Could run martyrdom for more damage

Bit risque though XP

Also depending on your ranged weapon, can take away incendiary nades and save up 2 more points to get talents like duelist or disdain. Or desperation if you're... Desperate

[wicked sage]

I'm running this one:
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9be8b0a0-bd2a-4914-8c70-f50742ff2ca4/sneaky-zealot-w-big-hammer

Until I finally get my 40 kills so I can switch to Incendiary

[nimble fiber]

[hushed knoll]

[placid fiber]

Take that, motherfucker! I beat Cannonbalrog without getting hit without a blackhole gun, without a yari launcher, and without something stopping time when I stop moving! >:3

[nimble fiber]

literally 12 pm rn

u go to bedge stan

[south folio]

permanently

[delicate shadow]

it's 3am

[placid fiber]

That boss is a massive bastard... trying to avoid getting hit by this boss is like trying to not get hit by a chaos spawn while you are completely disoriented, distracted by a crusher patrol, and worried about a bunch of specials coming after you... or something like that... :/

[steel agate]

Okay now no hit a clone run

[placid fiber]

And I am only somewhat exhagurating... he's a gigantic pain in the ass >.<'

[steel agate]

Jokes aside props gungeon bosses are a pain

[nimble fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/la-momia-ardet-bay-ardet-rick-rick-oconer-gif-14777767

[delicate shadow]

https://tenor.com/view/the-mummy-returns-allah-islam-kiss-muslim-gif-17271025

[placid fiber]

Now put on top of that the fact that my eyes have trouble seeing things. So I can not see projectiles and such and get hit by something I never saw coming... x.x

Gungeon is hard for me, as far as just being able to see things goes

[steel agate]

See I just suck at figuring out where to look on the screen so I die misplacing my character

Too focused on watching the enemy

[placid fiber]

Meanwhile I don't even see the projectile that is out in the open flying right at my character that most people could see...

😭

[nimble fiber]

then u could never play the coop mode I think

[steel agate]

Friends with gungeon?! I might as well ask for rainbow loot all floors

[nimble fiber]

lmao

only if its gunther with all bullet upgrades

[placid fiber]

Know what's sad? Rainbow mode, for me, is probably closer to what you all face for Gungeon difficulty... without any special modes... 😦

[steel agate]

If it makes u feel better I haven’t unlocked rainbow mode I just know of it cuz of some gungeon tubers I watch

[placid fiber]

Like Rainbow mode is difficult for me :/

[nimble fiber]

to me rainbow mode is kinda easy

[placid fiber]

Rainbow mode is easy mode

but that's how bad my eyes are

[steel agate]

Can barely get to a character’s past let alone unlock cool modes

[nimble fiber]

also way more fun than the normal game

[placid fiber]

It feels like normal difficulty for me

:/

despite all of the op builds you can get easy as 1 2 3... my eyes are not made to play a bullet hell game :/

It's hard to explain just how difficult my eyes make games like Gungeon, for me... 😦

[safe glade]

Is it just me or is bolter just hella trash now? Damage feels underwhelming and it doesn't even open bulwark shield anymore

[placid fiber]

Despite the problems I have... I've beaten 5 of the past fights, due to perseverance :3

[south folio]

bolter got DMR-ized a bit too much

[steel agate]

Props to ya loot must’ve been cool

Still got plenty to unlock myself so that could explain my lack of dubs

[placid fiber]

I mean I do mostly just rainbow mode... so it is much easier to make it to the past fights... also... the ancient hero's bandana affects the max ammo you have in the past fights, if you have a weapon with an ammo capacity...

[quasi marsh]

Its a sniper gun now

[placid fiber]

If you swap weapons it resets the ammo, though

[south folio]

bolter will prob get changed back in some way once some balance updates finally roll around

[quasi marsh]

You don't hipfire unless it's a monstro

Well

Zealot can hipfire more

[safe glade]

Yea so its not just me haha

[quasi marsh]

It's not really bad though

Not as strong as it once was for sure though

[south folio]

p good weapon but not in the way that people expect it to be

[quasi marsh]

The fast swap tech also goes a long way to making it smoother to play too

[south folio]

finesse DMR bolter can't hurt you

[quasi marsh]

https://youtu.be/qHA8-mGQ1Tk?si=TouRMEgItHztNQOr

Zealot can just chuck a knife to cancel the swap animation though

[placid fiber]

full auto missile launcher can't hurt you... full auto missile launcher isn't real...
full auto missile launcher:

[south folio]

OwO

[placid fiber]

And that's not even triple shot full auto missile launcher with a +50% mag size >.>

I love this shrine... it's a free +25% damage, at the cost of +2 curse! :3

Oh and -1 heart, as well >.>

[hushed knoll]

HOLY SHIT I JUST FIGURED OUT HOW TO RAISE AND LOWER A SEAT IN A CAR

AFTER ALL THESE YEARS

[placid fiber]

Use the levers that are there so that you can raise, lower, etc, the car chairs...?

[hushed knoll]

I never know how to use it

[placid fiber]

I mean they can be easy to miss, so I guess that isn't all that surprising

[hushed knoll]

I never knew you had to pump it

[nimble fiber]

does anybody else hate the new bottle cap design?

well its not ,,new" anymore but I still hate it

[north sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/disappointed-wet-hot-american-summer-gif-23679565

[left iron]

[nimble fiber]

[left iron]

Turn 10 Gelt in TWWH3 now:

I need all the wizards

[nimble fiber]

ice wizard gelt gang, we love collecting wizards

[sonic totem]

The good version of shadow wizard money gang

[zealous trellis]

guys any good tips for Unseen assassin and behind enemy lines penance? I tried most of the melee weapons and it isn't going good

[ornate bone]

Knife is the funny backstab weapon

[quasi marsh]

I don't suggest knife

You want to be able to kill multiple in 1 swing

Try rashad

I used a thrust achlys caxe myself

[shy river]

double cooldown talents and mk6 knife with rending backstab is what I did, just spamming shroud every 2 seconds

[ember yew]

this is what i did ^

[sonic totem]

Knife, Rashad, Heavy Sword, hell even things like Evis work so long as you're using the strikedown heavies.

Remember to push an enemy before dodging to their back and stabbing them btw. The stagger will ensure they don't turn last minute and mess up your backstab

[ember yew]

without backstab rending though

[shy river]

i used the mk6 push poke a lot, its pretty good for killin tough stuff out of shroud and its quick

[quaint verge]

The holding type

It's shite

[coarse birch]

Bruh

[nimble fiber]

I hate it so much

and ripping it off also isn't the easiest task ever

[hushed knoll]

I never realized you had to pump it

I always thought you had to pull the lever and push down with your butt

[hushed knoll]

HI ICE WE LOVE YOU ICE

EVERYONE GREET ICE

[coarse birch]

Oh you mean remove it idk why i thought you meant adjust it

[hushed knoll]

What do you mean remove it

I meant adjust

Like moving the seat up and down

[coarse birch]

Like

Ok if you can move them up and down i was also unaware ngl

I knew about back and forth

[nimble fiber]

what

u can move them up and down?

I thought u could only move them back and forth and adjust the backpart of the seat

[hushed knoll]

Yeah there’s a smaller lever

You pump it down or up

It raises the seat and lowers it

[coarse birch]

Why would you wanna go higher or lower

[nimble fiber]

lmao

[hushed knoll]

Because this rental car I got had my head almost in the roof

[sonic totem]

That's not a car, that's a fuckin carnival ride

[coarse birch]

Interesting

[graceful egret]

hello people

[placid fiber]

Hello

Welp... this mouse guided rocket launcher now does 1.8x2x damage... :3

[steel agate]

the rat wont know what hit em

[placid fiber]

Oh wait... it's 2x1.8x1.3x damage...? x.x

since the riddle of lead makes you do 30% more damage... it might just be that the rocket does ~310% damage. :/

Casey has the same damage multiplier, since it only has 1 "ammo" as well :/

[nimble fiber]

is there any reason a veteran should run a knife?

[subtle cedar]

speedruns

[placid fiber]

I mean... if they have a build that can allow them to pull their weight while using the knife as their melee option... I guess that's a reason... but... that sounds omega sus imo >.>'

[sly mauve]

how many bleed stacks passive has?

i think i might go haymaker _> uncanny and crit-> unyielding

[nimble fiber]

they didn't

died and left immediately

[steel agate]

if i had to guess the lad's reasoning for the knife? mobility

[nimble fiber]

I mean if the goal is to die quicker

sure why not

[placid fiber]

Like I said: I was really sus on whether a rando knife Vet would actually have a legitimate build they could use with the knife... and not be terrible, that is...

Welp, time to go die to pig gannon again lol

Wish me a swift and painful death, lol

I'll record the pitiful attempt, I guess, this time. That way you can see just how horrible I am at Gungeon, if I do share the video. xD

[sly mauve]

what perk do i need to perma spam push attacks

stam regen?

or block ef

[fossil crag]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1118853738979917844/1236827407005126728/My_Video18.webm?ex=663b6708&is=663a1588&hm=5f942ce3763679b0b35989964bbd0dc446699cbe96b8e9f30843d66833e0b836& if you guys are on pc can you check if you can play the video twice?

[placid fiber]

Man, I am really shakey at Gungeon gameplay... even when I am doing what would be considered my... "better" gameplay...

[sly mauve]

dh depleted stam to fast so now i come back with 3 stam curios

hopefully they will fix +3 stam curios once

[placid fiber]

Gah, I got extremely reckless and got hit 3 times like I have been the other times I have done this 2nd past battle for the bullet... 😦

wow

Apparently doing 480p made the whole screen green lol

[coarse birch]

why would you run it at 480p

[placid fiber]

This was the 2nd part

[placid fiber]

To try to make the file smaller lol

I got killed by the boss after I got him down to 20% health remaining... 😦

[short dew]

Other than it being strong?

[nimble fiber]

of course I have a special vet again that runs into every burster he sees smh

thats enough pubs for today

[short dew]

What u laughing about, if u think the knife isn’t strong on vet idk what ur smoking but I want some

[placid fiber]

It isn't that the knife can't be as strong on Veteran as it is on Zealot... it is that a random Veteran had the knife... and rando anycharacter tend to not be either good or have their build set up to compensate for what they are lacking by taking the knife over say the power sword...

[fossil crag]

I use knife on vet and its strong

[short dew]

I mean tbh the knife isn’t really lacking in anything

But the way ppl build the knives is horrid

[placid fiber]

horde clear without a proper set up/useage...?

[nimble fiber]

bro what r U on about I didn't say shit, just that the vets I met before that played with knife, died immediately

knife can probably be quite strong if u play it right

[placid fiber]

key words in this statement are "if u play it right"... we're talking about a rando vet... that also has a knife... and no guarantee that they know how to make their build so that they can still do good horde clear, and not fall behind as far as contributions go...

[nimble fiber]

ye probably just my luck

[fossil crag]

It also depends on the knife, iii is not playable (or just very nkt good) on vet but vi is

[quaint verge]

Welcome to a public discord server

[nimble fiber]

lmao

[quaint verge]

People read the first few words and just go apeshite

[short dew]

The way u worded it sounded like ur saying the knife is shit on vet

[quaint verge]

As I said, reads the first few words and go apeshite

[short dew]

Autocorrect be autocorrecting

Didn’t have time to read everything at work lol

[nimble fiber]

never played vet, and never played knife, ever

so it was a genuine question, because all the players I met so far that weren't shroudfield players and played with a knife, didn't manage to do anything

[quaint verge]

Go read stuff before doing any angy-typing

[fossil crag]

Agreed

[placid fiber]

Idk what they were getting at... but what I was getting at was the Veteran in question was a rando Vet... they were also a knife vet, but, the more important part of this is that they were a rando (insert class here)... You can't expect competence from randos x.x

[lusty turtle]

The correct answer would be defencive mobility and elite damage with heavies

The rando answer would be spamming bleed at things with lights and pretending its helping your dps

[nimble fiber]

thank u

[short dew]

Now that’s just blatantly false

[nimble fiber]

can u apply bleed with vet?

[lusty turtle]

Most knife users are either speed runners or bleed spammers and both die instantly in pubs

[lusty turtle]

Yes, 1 stack per hit, or with extra bleed blessings on knife (stacking them is redundant)

[fossil crag]

My bad, but for my experience, me running vi is way better then iii on my vet and same for my zealot

[nimble fiber]

fuck I forgot my charger because cereals were more important, god damnit

[lusty turtle]

On zealot the 3 gives you crazy elite dmg on heavies with precog uncanny

Its probably not awful on vet with the weakspot node and melee finesse node, but i've not run it

Vet can also reliably run mercy killer if you take the bleed stacks i guess

[cinder dagger]

Can confirm they do lol. I like knife games only when my teammates can actually finish off the big guys for me😂

[fossil crag]

Can we play 👀 since knives can kill pretty much anything if used right

[coarse birch]

ive actually come around to riposte over precog because of how stupid knife crits are

your value for crit is higher than headshot

[left iron]

Psy op'd by Alco

Smh

[lusty turtle]

Ye but i hate crits

[coarse birch]

Alco is flesh tearer lacerate

[cinder dagger]

I mean im still getting used to the knives but we could

[coarse birch]

i am not at that point

granted i use knife on psyker so i dont need horde clear like zealot does

[coarse birch]

fair its dumb

[fossil crag]

Givme like 10 mins walking home atm

[coarse birch]

we went from crits being irrelevant to this

[cinder dagger]

Just lmk

[nimble fiber]

just use the kife speedrun strat in rl

[safe glade]

which would be better for a zealot?

[cinder dagger]

Me who just uses flamethrowers cause i havent dabbled in the pew pews yet

Headhunter seems good tho

[safe glade]

the infested is garbage tho

which is why im doubting

[left iron]

You dont understand, i need to be angry NOW

[nimble fiber]

why? couldn't u get all the wizards u wanted?

[left iron]

I have underestimated how much money they demand

[nimble fiber]

[left iron]

1 mana cost spells

[nimble fiber]

lol

can u sell anything?

[fossil crag]

aite i just got home

[cinder dagger]

Alright im gettin on

[fossil crag]

https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxWOXw7CWlUYpGxJ-qbgAtozTViC_u3uR8?si=oH3aZ2cP07m0TiUp

[cinder dagger]

What’s your code

[nimble fiber]

[fossil crag]

its in my name

6017807522

[cinder dagger]

Sent the request

Dont mind my zealots name…😂

[fossil crag]

what a name

you can forget your name and make a new name only for 500000 dockets

[cinder dagger]

Nah i need the emperors toes man

[ornate bone]

Flashback to one of my proudest edits

[nimble fiber]

gimme the weapon that infested has pls

[quaint verge]

[cinder dagger]

Context my Zealots name is ToeSniffer

[sonic totem]

Ah yes, a cultured individual

[cinder dagger]

Ive been trying to find funny names lol. My Vet is called The-Fetus, it needs work😂

[sonic totem]

One of my friends named his vet "Handy-Capt" and honestly, I'm sad my peak will never be as high

[obsidian ore]

Ammo Guzzler is my favourite so far

[nimble fiber]

ann can u do a handstand?

[solar gorge]

meanwhile elspeth

6 winds purple sun

[quaint verge]

[nimble fiber]

[sonic totem]

How many energy drinks you on?

[quaint verge]

Go get a nightstand

Put your hand on it

Boom, handstand

[nimble fiber]

but what if

[sonic totem]

Steps unclear, put a nightstand in my ass

[quaint verge]

2 and almost a liter of coffe

[sonic totem]

Ouch. Just a little further bro, you can do this

[quaint verge]

I'm not driving

[sonic totem]

Oh

Thank fuck

[quaint verge]

Caffeine is there to help me relax

[sonic totem]

I forgot drivers seats are on the left for the west =>=

[sonic totem]

I don't think that's how caffiene works....

[nimble fiber]

explains why u on the right seat

( I know there are weird places where u drive on the right side )

[quaint verge]

I'm neoro divergent

[left iron]

Yeah but thats just one wizard

[quaint verge]

Just sad that I need alot stimuli to even cook for myself

[nimble fiber]

[quaint verge]

Thank fuck for dishwashers

I struggle with washing dish stimuli

[hushed knoll]

[nimble fiber]

stan go to bedge

[left iron]

Also 6 mana final transmutations

[quaint verge]

Go get another car

[coarse birch]

10 am bedtime my favorite

[left iron]

Yeah

Go to sleep

[coarse birch]

Cant say i haven't done it

[left iron]

Help the wizards are demanding i pay them

[nimble fiber]

I mean, if u didn't sleep that night, and its already 10 am, would u still go to sleep or stay awake?

[quaint verge]

Depends

[nimble fiber]

if u have nothing to do that day

[quaint verge]

Whatevs the mood demands

[nimble fiber]

my first time playing dd2

[quaint verge]

Just keep on trucking is the answer

[quaint verge]

This wizard?

[nimble fiber]

btw I think I should have taken more breaks while playing it

when I tried playing it again I didn't have as much fun as before

[left iron]

[nimble fiber]

[left iron]

Please do not remind me of the cart incident

[nimble fiber]

I hate the griffin with a passion

he's such a wuss and always tries to run away when he's about to die

also loves attacking u when you're already fighting something

[left iron]

Im pretty sure of the 30~ cart rides i took, 28 of them ended in a ambush where the cart gets blown up

So i gave up on using the cart

[nimble fiber]

for me its mostly trolls and goblins

or how u call those monkey looking hairy fellas again?, the one's that chill on walls

[quaint verge]

I mean, you destroyed like 10 on your own

Wizards

[frosty herald]

skill issue ngl

once you unlock maelstrom and meteor everything is 10x easier

[solar gorge]

1 wizard is all i need

[hushed knoll]

Did someone serve you a la carte meals

[solar gorge]

i have so much wind

[left iron]

100 aint much

[hushed knoll]

Is this dragons dogma 2

[nimble fiber]

ye

[solar gorge]

more than enough to wipe 4 stacks with purple sun

[nimble fiber]

stan u playing dragons dogma 2?

[hushed knoll]

I wish I could play it but it stutters on my pc a lot

I tried

[nimble fiber]

oh

[sonic totem]

Me when I need to tell my mom I need to go fart

[nimble fiber]

[hushed knoll]

They didn’t fix frame rate issues

[left iron]

Fair, its enough to wipe armies if the AI is in control

[solar gorge]

even my artillery shoots purple suns

it's the purple run

[nimble fiber]

haven't really played with sorcerers that much cause I heard it would be to much chaos

[solar gorge]

urple

[nimble fiber]

rple

[ember yew]

me playing zarona mk2 first time

on vet

its just absurd

my vet is fresh 30

and i just picked a bunch of shit talents to do my penances

all of them at once (as much as possible)

[sonic totem]

What a gamer

[sly mauve]

q: is the heavy sword special a parry?

[ember yew]

no

it's a subpar stagger attack

[sly mauve]

ah ok

[sonic totem]

Only d/claws get parry

[ember yew]

^

[sonic totem]

Most melee specials are just a high stagger/power up move

[sly mauve]

so carapace cooks me

[ember yew]

yeah

and unyelding is pretty bad damage too

better than carapace, but still not something you call good or impressive

[sonic totem]

Do you have chastise the wicked/Fury of the faithful? @sly mauve

[sly mauve]

my first

[sly mauve]

yeah thats the only option

[ember yew]

yeah, that 25% carapace is kinda wasted

otherwise looks good

[sly mauve]

the other one was sprinting

[sonic totem]

It lets you ignore armour. Just spam that with ranged weapon

[ember yew]

if the sprint one has better stats

[sonic totem]

Delete crushers, ez

[ember yew]

you can use it

[placid fiber]

Wow... I killed this Abbey of the True Gun boss in 2 volleys of my Yari Launcher... I've used way too much spice... I think I've used... ~13 or 14 spices altogether, this run, so far...

[sly mauve]

nah i meant the perk where flak sits now

so and i just use heavies right

[ember yew]

Microsoft

just closed

Tango Gameworks

holy carp

[sonic totem]

Ye

Usually Mk9 would be best since it has a overheard for its first hit of heavy combo. Block cancel for constant strikedown. Gud damage

But any heavy sword works. The main difference is the moveset really

[sly mauve]

so mk7 is just straight up worse or is it at least better in sth

[sonic totem]

Dunno, never used it much

[quaint verge]

You can stagger a rager with the special attack

[sonic totem]

But worse is an exaggeration. It'll take you far

Plus I think that's the one that makes you feel like a samurai

Or so my friend says

[sly mauve]

nice

[sonic totem]

Just spam lights into hordes and you'll be gucci

[sly mauve]

knife lights deal more dmg x.x

[sonic totem]

Preference at the end of the day :P

[coarse birch]

its p much the same as the 6, you have to do a bit of camera work to get deathblow to proc whereas its much easier with the 6

but thats like the only thing

they are all very good

[sly mauve]

heave into light is good for hordes i saw

h2 oneshots muties

[coarse birch]

yeah all hswords have crazy maniac damage

[open pollen]

Me: "For the God-Emperor!"
Some Heretic: "FOR NURGLE!"

I didn't know they could do that. Or mayhaps twas a coincidence

[sly mauve]

h1 only 95% dmg against muties but with the flak perk i juset oneshot 3 berserkers thanks to deathblow (with fotf)

[median steeple]

Most likely a coincidence since you hear them scream that all the time. But fatshark has been adding more interactions like that with every patch so

[fleet zealot]

Yea heretics have been getting a bit more talkative

[nimble fiber]

[fleet zealot]

Extra small business

[open pollen]

Call that a Startup

[summer tree]

I don't see a trench coat

[spare dome]

Man the one on the right is just pissed to be included with these other two sleepy schmucks

[frosty herald]

Lebron james reportedly used venting shriek on burster

[nimble fiber]

[maiden path]

TIGRUS HEAAAAAAAAVY

THE LEVEL 30 ONE

y yheory

my theroy

is dat the revolver

was supposed to be a bolt pistol

cause why da fuck is it one shotting crushers

[weary glacier]

because fatshark let rending be the silliest stat of all time

[weary glacier]

and any amount of rending takes weapons from being shit to being OP

[coarse birch]

Rending is v funny

Surely removing half the ADMS isnt broken

[weary glacier]

rending is what makes the knife go brrr

[coarse birch]

Well mainly into cara its still p decent into everything else without it thanks to crits

[weary glacier]

yeah you lose all horde clear but being able to punch-stab crushers for 3600 dmg is very entertaining

mercy killer is what it’s called right? that headshot dmg bonus is silly and combo’d with anything rending lets you delete crushers

[coarse birch]

Mercy killer is the bleed one

Uncanny strike is whats giving you rending on headshot

[weary glacier]

it’s hs dmg on bleeding targets right?

[coarse birch]

Ye

[weary glacier]

uncanny goes on everything sometimes I forget it exists

[coarse birch]

Yeah its a default blessing on any weapon with it p much

[weary glacier]

on every class too… I think every weapon I use in the game has to have uncanny by default

[coarse birch]

Some stuff can get away with not having it if built around having cara damage elswhere

[zenith fog]

quick question, saw somebody recommend laspistol with crit on burn over revolver on critbuild

fake news or real, ive never seen that before thats why im asking

[coarse birch]

Id agree with them

[zenith fog]

*burn on crit i mean

[coarse birch]

Laspistol crits very often a gets a lot of benefit from it

Id do dum dum infernus

For blessings

[weary glacier]

i imagine you’re supposed to use the faster pistols then to get burn stacks up faster

kantrael mkx is prob too slow

[coarse birch]

Infernus being the burn on crit

[minor sage]

hs is basically katana for white ppl

[weary glacier]

was told the other laspistols werent great. I thought infernus was reserved for recon lasguns

[coarse birch]

Laspistols are v good

Esp on crit builds

[sterile basalt]

Laspistol has a ton of built-in stuff that make it nicer to play than revolver, like suppression immunity, instant sprint to fire & clean optic
Main upside tho is the significantly higher firing uptime so if u find urself needing to shoot a lot in target rich environments it’s not bad

Also take mk2 laspistol over mk10

[ripe quest]

Mk X is fine out of preference, both are great weapons.

X hitting for higher damage per shot and II shooting more often.

[coarse birch]

I prefer mkx although mk2s firerate is better for applying on crit stuff

[minor sage]

revolver will always be better because it's a revolver, but laspistol isnt bad

[sterile basalt]

Oh right yea zealot can bypass mk10’s horrible maniac ttk with throwing knives

[minor sage]

dont run infernus

lol

it's garb

[coarse birch]

Although i dont think its a huge diff infernus is p w/e given how much unyielding damage laspistol does on crit anyway

[rocky marsh]

i thought this was quite amusing so i just wanted to share it here

[spare dome]

THammer has poopy finesse values so

Iunno that it would be that strong really

[coarse birch]

Youd get the base damage buff

Thats about it

[spare dome]

Probably enough for the minibosses tho yeah

Zealot has so many damage boosts going on in an extended fight that are just raw damage

[rocky marsh]

wouldn't you be able to one shot crushers in those 15 seconds at least

[rocky marsh]

wait so enoug hto one shot miniboss?

[minor sage]

this is straight up wrong though lol. ironhelm cleaves through chaff so it performs quite well with slaught

and i'm pretty sure maniac is pointless because it always oneshots a mutant on baseline

[rocky marsh]

that not point! >.>

[coarse birch]

Yeah maniac is p worthless on hammers now

[sterile basalt]

I thought headtaker and slaughterer were interchangeable tbh

[minor sage]

for crucis ya

but for ironhelm slaught performs a tad better

[sterile basalt]

Cool

[coarse birch]

Ye ironhelm kills right away cause your doing the special

[rocky marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/yuji-itadori-suku-romen-sukuna-ryomen-sukuna-yuji-changing-to-sukuna-gif-9891758073316158349

sorry this was in my mind

[vast basin]

For ironhelm I prefer headtaker because it's much easier to keep max stacks than slaught and it typically stacks up much faster

[rocky marsh]

[sterile basalt]

Ironhelm horde clear is just SP > H1 repeat right?

[vast basin]

And slaught will not help against solo bosses

[ripe quest]

The X loses out on DPS for all ADMs (except Cara but you're not hitting Cara raw), but hits higher totals and uptime. It also offers the higher per shot damage, on Zealot it hits relatively nice BPs across the board.

[sterile basalt]

[vast basin]

Really slaught/headtaker is just preference and not much difference I find

[minor sage]

if you want to do better against bosses, you already fucked up by taking ironhelm LOL

[coarse birch]

Yeah i dont think its a huge deal

[ripe quest]

Skullcrusher 💪🗣️ 🔥 🔥

[coarse birch]

The chad thammer build

[vast basin]

Not really, I take ironhelm cause it's more versatile and still performs well against bosses.

[ripe quest]

I can't believe they gutted it by removing stun tech (it still lives on as fun sidegrade giga crowd damage + combo with base combos)

[dense field]

+thunderous

[coarse birch]

Team buff too

Ok we have now cooked too hard

[maiden path]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwXBbVIUTcg

[rocky marsh]

talking about tech its only today i learnt you can cancel bolter something with knives?

[ripe quest]

You can do it with Flamer too.

[minor sage]

huh lol

it's literally the opposite

one swing caps your slaught