excluding 60 seconds regen
#zealot-class
maiden path
royal vortex
vet and zealot both need grenade upgrades
tknives needs one that gives you like 4 anti armor tomahawks
coarse birch
Yeah for sure
bleak ice
what's that stunlock/toughness buff thing that zealots spam?
south folio
tknives needs one that gives you like 4 anti armor tomahawks
you're sick in the head
frosty herald
tknives needs one that gives you like 4 anti armor tomahawks
Exploding knives
south folio
what's that stunlock/toughness buff thing that zealots spam?
the ult?
coarse birch
what's that stunlock/toughness buff thing that zealots spam?
Chorus?
maiden path
tknives needs one that gives you like 4 anti armor tomahawks
walrkme oneshotting the buk
what the fuck
keyboard bug
south folio
if you're referring to the dashing ult, it's Fury of the Faithful (left side ult)
coarse birch
Nah let josho cook in this case
maiden path
me one shotting the bulwark then regening a anti-armor tomahawk
royal vortex
Nah let josho cook in this case
tknives right now are a generalist weapon you use on most elite/special types
royal vortex
a cool way to give zealot loadouts more versatility in the world where you can't bring chastise and shoot crushers with literally any gun is to gimp tknives but make them better into armor (on weakspot)
coarse birch
I do love them but i think they could benefit from being able to assign new roles
maiden path
zealot bow and arrow and tomahawk when
south folio
playing with diff throwing nades and the # of elites/specials needed to regen one would be interesting
stable cypress
throw a festival pie at the crusher's face so they whiff their overhead and walk off an edge
maiden path
coarse birch
Although yeah armor degrade would have to go
nimble fiber
maiden path
giving everyone anti-armor is kinda fucked though
no issue with bulwarks when the whole team can just obliterate them
coarse birch
I mean everyone has anti armor as is
royal vortex
bulwarks are unyielding
coarse birch
And yeah bulwarks arent carapace
royal vortex
and there are very few scenarios in which bulwarks don't just get flattened anyways
coarse birch
Crusher
calm salmon
Analysis Paralysis - Information Overload - Situational Awareness
All three of these things share similar aspects, despite being different skillsets. Most people lack the ability to deal with these in large quantities. Its generally what separates the cream from the crop in horde games(And also large scale team-games; like Squad, Post Scriptum, Battlefield etc)
An unfortunate reality 
Welp, at least Darktide isn't hard enough to be unsoloable.
maiden path
Analysis Paralysis - Information Overload - Situational Awareness
All three of...
this how u sound saying dis
calm salmon
this how u sound saying dis
It's good to understand the psychological impact of a game on people so you don't get madge at the game or them
just learn to accept it and move on
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
south folio
tfw my teammates in a multiplayer game are a factor in the difficulty
calm salmon
That's always been the case, since the inception of cooperative tasks.
south folio
some people just seem to take it for granted that they should be playing at a particular difficulty and fail to accept that they should just drop down a difficulty if they're having so much trouble
or just run a premade
calm salmon
imagine if fatshark gave you a "god hand" once you unlocked every single penance in the game
where you could physically relocate teammates 
maiden path
imagine if fatshark gave you a "god hand" once you unlocked every single pe...
GOODHAND
GODHAN
maiden path
coarse birch
Arco never plays again pog
south folio
good
south folio
good
desert bough
https://tenor.com/view/gene-god-hand-gene-god-hand-capcom-swim-gif-1429718508145...
They say to Ulgo not use it. Would make game borin for lil uns
maiden path
They say to Ulgo not use it. Would make game borin for lil uns
holy shit ulgo has the godhand
desert bough
Shh is secret
maiden path
https://tenor.com/view/god-hand-god-hand-pummel-pummel-gif-15589846
ulgo fighting daemonhost
desert bough
Ulgo not use it no more. Too powerful
maiden path
Ulgo not use it no more. Too powerful
thank u for ur compassion ulgo
i will not forget this
desert bough
No problem little one! Ulgo make sacrifice again if need too!
maiden path
thank u darktide mission finder
merry flume
i install the scoreboard mod again after not using it because it forms bad habits
and it's getting uninstalled again
desert bough
Ulgo remmember they send on secret mishon. Had to get THE boss
bleak ice
quickplay 9/10 will just put you in empty lobbies and its so ass
Isn't this a good thing?
maiden path
i install the scoreboard mod again after not using it because it forms bad habit...
i wish the game would show you 'elite killed, specials, total' etc
shit like that
zinc talon
i wish the game would show you 'elite killed, specials, total' etc
you mean like this?
spare talon
i install the scoreboard mod again after not using it because it forms bad habit...
i use power di
cuz i get more stats
more info, like how many times each buff procs for you
but theres no score
no competition
zinc talon
yknow there're enough addons and plugins to scoreboard you can finally tailor them to exactly what it is you're trying to see
start with ovenproof's plugin, I can get you the others
each have their own options boxes to show or hide each general section
spare talon
you mean like this?
score being tanked by not being the one picking up plasteel
or defense score being bloated by just being an ogryn and thus staggering enemies
is honestly insane
zinc talon
defense actually seems to run more on the discrepancy in cohesion and attacks blocked
vast basin
powerdi is made by ovenproof and is superior to scoreboard in almost every way
zinc talon
cool, TIL
south folio
you're never going to find a weighting that makes everyone happy, and the summary score also depends on what you have active anyways
meager turret
can it be viewed in-match?
meager turret
switching to it rn
zinc talon
so if 3 people have shit blocked attacks and the last person has a normal amount for a mission, the weight gets super skewed the further the outliers are
everyone staggers more or less constantly so that part stays pretty middle of the road
spare talon
but the thing is
a knife zealot is going to be dodging way more than blocking
spare talon
so them having low numbers of blocks would be reflected on the scoreboard, and that being a lower score
meager turret
I mostly use it scoreboard to see who wasted 1000% more ammo than they picked up, or triple dipped on medicae, I'd turn the scores off if I could
spare talon
regardless how much fuckin work they may have been putting in
south folio
tbf stagger does matter a bit
delicate shadow
the summary scores are not worth looking at, just look at individual numbers if you want to have anything to interpret
south folio
that's just how numerical summaries be
zinc talon
for sure
also. I haven't updated any of my scoreboard anythings since before halloween
spare talon
the summary scores are not worth looking at, just look at individual numbers if ...
another reason why i like power di, cuz it is just raw numbers, and allows me to break those numbers down further
zinc talon
aint broke don't fix nawmsayn
delicate shadow
and tbh even then it's all contextual, like no shit the plasma vet has outdamaged the crusher zealot etc.
spare talon
if the zealot has the least amount of specifically melee kills and theyre not running a flamer, somethings up
zinc talon
so now my scoreboard is so ridiculously lopsided and caddywompus it's gone past irritating straight into endearing
yeah I leave damage out of it almost entirely
real talk, if I look at the scoreboard and ** I'M ** not 4th in damage
that's when something's up
spare talon
with power di, i can see how many times someone on my team pressed the dodge button
ive literally had a match where teammates were dropping like flies
looked at the player state record
i was at like 600 dodges
teammates were at 12-33
found the problem
zinc talon
I'm not there to do damage, I'm not there to kill
I'm there to keep you idiots from getting shot in the earlobe and bleeding out before the next apothejerry
I float in the middle of the 3 others and keep them from getting swamped or stagger/CC enemies so they can lay the big nasty hits
like a tank
meager turret
with power di, i can see how many times someone on my team pressed the dodge but...
at that point it's misclicking
lmao
zinc talon
oh THAT mod
how many times you scratched your balls on the way down
that shit is honestly borderline privacy invasion but I get it, it's a game
it just astounds me they can even detect some of that shit
spare talon
anything that gets really in depth like buffs, like how many times second wind procced for example, is only for you, you cant see how many times your teammates buffs procced for them
zinc talon
I'm not sure you need google big data analytics to find the reason you had trouble beating hard mode twins
spare talon
so that specifically is better for measuring the value of parts of your build
spare talon
like i used to not really like second wind cuz "on dodge effects" didnt seem to be that reliable in proccing
then i see how many times it actually happened in game blew me away
calm salmon
with power di, i can see how many times someone on my team pressed the dodge but...
For someone with your name, you're dodging an awful lot 
spare talon
For someone with your name, you're dodging an awful lot <:whatthefuck_heresy:1...
i also dodge for movement
zinc talon
yeah I can see the value, I just don't know if it's worth all the time and effort to first collect it and then reading the tea leaves / seancing with your dead ancestors to interpret the HOW of it all
gray ice
second wind is a ridiculous amount of toughness regen tho, did you really not notice it until you looked at it on a spreadsheet so to speak?
meager turret
Second wind on a knife zealot is actually wacky
gray ice
cuz i noticed basically the first game that it was night and day how durable I was
south folio
if you want to measure a specific aspect of your build, then that's what the numbers are for
having numbers doesn't hurt as long as it doesn't impede your ability to interpret them
spare talon
second wind is a ridiculous amount of toughness regen tho, did you really not no...
it was more "wow this is better than i thought"
then "WOW this shit is actually insane"
zinc talon
it's straying into oracle/soothsayer territory
calm salmon
the summary scores are not worth looking at, just look at individual numbers if ...
tfw summary score hyperinflates based on the amount of enemies you stagger
gray ice
it was more "wow this is better than i thought"
then "WOW this shit is actually ...
i see i see
spare talon
tfw summary score hyperinflates based on the amount of enemies you stagger <:K...
Guys im doing it! Im the MVP of the match!
(using a crucis with 0% damage)
zinc talon
folks just think their conclusions are more valid because they have a number to the tenth decimal supporting it, maybe
calm salmon
second wind is a ridiculous amount of toughness regen tho, did you really not no...
inb4 fatshark adds a 5 second cooldown to second wind
zinc talon
anyway I have no skin in the game here I'll stop whinging, just think that mod goes way too far to be useful
south folio
sure quantitative analysis isn't sufficient alone
spare talon
anyway I have no skin in the game here I'll stop whinging, just think that mod g...
it absolutely does
south folio
but it's a part of it
zinc talon
exactly
spare talon
90% of the shit is borderlines too much
but its fun to look at sometimes
zinc talon
you need to read tea leaves and seance with your dead ancestors to interpret it
more data does not mean better interpretation
that's all I meant
gray ice
inb4 fatshark adds a 5 second cooldown to second wind
and then nerf evi again for good measure
spare talon
plus baseline review of the game without scores whatsoever is just so much nicer
south folio
sure but i don't think anyone is arguing against that
calm salmon
and then nerf evi again for good measure
All is right in the world ๐
desert bough
If Ulgo have for drip thingy. Red tanktop wiff nothin else
south folio
it is the most lukewarm of modern statistics takes to have
zinc talon
yknow that's really ...yeah
gray ice
All is right in the world ๐
alhamdullilah ๐
zinc talon
just give us the numbers and don't weight the score
or make it flat geometric bars
like video cards have
rating one against another
south folio
can just disable it
zinc talon
no then I can't see how much better I am than everyone
calm salmon
What is the surrounding conversation even about
I scrolled up for context and got lazy
south folio
nothing wrong with the summary scores since it itches some people's scratches
spare talon
nothing wrong with the summary scores since it itches some people's scratches
but then i feel bad if someone else has a higher score then me
i CANT have that happen
IM the better player
zinc talon
and then we all started waxing philosophical about that mod that lets you know how many times your teammates changed their underwear in the last 3 mission
spare talon
MY number has to be the highest one!!!!
zinc talon
yknow I almost enjoy those types
calm salmon
ngl, 163k damage is uh
delicate shadow
tfw summary score hyperinflates based on the amount of enemies you stagger <:K...
yeah it's dumb
calm salmon
bad
zinc talon
I am not there to kill
I am there to stop you from being killed
when you're not in danger, I can kill too
so gitgud plz
calm salmon
Yeah I'm just gonna point out that removing the problem removes it
ergo: killing>everything
zinc talon
an enemy on its ass is less dangerous than an enemy killed more quickly
that can get a cheap shot off on someone
if I bottleneck an entire horde with packs and do no damage but nobody gets hit at all
calm salmon
can
zinc talon
that's a better job done than me trying to kill faster and someone getting gobsmacked with an overhead
calm salmon
can you just fucking toss your nuke into it
like holy shit
the nuke is explicitly designed with that in mind
zinc talon
nuke? I've never used one because Cousin Rockri is by my side
calm salmon
or, ffs, use your attack buttons
meager turret
I'm a rock gamer
zinc talon
don't get me wrong, I still run bromentum on the slab and pick max mulching stats on my ranged
but at the beginning of every fight, I take the wind out of every enemy's sails in the room, then progress to killing
calm salmon
Like, philosophically speaking: Tanks are a thing in many game genres
The role does not exist in tide games. Outright killing enemies is objectively the best way to prevent snowballs.
zinc talon
if the team meshes with that, they've killed the entire room as qu ic kly as I've knocked everything on its ass
because that means they're following behind me, and killing what I ragdoll
and keeping up doing so
that's a job well done on everyone's part
calm salmon
"tanks", like ogryn and bardin, are tanky to facilitate dealing damage easier - you shouldn't just be sitting there shield bashing enemies and trying to corral them into a corner
zinc talon
let's go run a job and I'll show ya what I mean so your buukie doesn't get skwooked
hah brudder I'm not just pinning smols into a corner and shield pushing them
first I lay them out, then I kill
the team picks up on this
and kills as I lay them out
it's a beautiful synergy
calm salmon
I don't wanna make fun of you because I like you
but what the fuck - There's not a whole lot of killing going on over here, but you have nearly 6k enemies staggered.
zinc talon
and actually keeps the team's momentum through the mission going unbroken, and so we finish more quickly too
calm salmon
Just fuckin heavy 1>heavy 2 the 95 enemies staring at you
and delete them into a fine mist in 10 seconds
zinc talon
not until they're taunted or on their ass
calm salmon
because ogryn shield is blatantly overpowered
zinc talon
I do not allow heretics to swing their weapons
when they can't, I'll bonk em
let's go run something
I'll show ya
calm salmon
Okri. A dead enemy is incapable of attacking
meager turret
I do appreciate a good crowd controller when I'm trying to take out crushers on my zealot
Lets me actually finish killing the goobers
calm salmon
I mean, that's just running taunt on ogryn and pressing F
and then you also gang up on the crushers along with your teammate
zinc talon
I remove that capability as my first responsibility
calm salmon
and you get a bonus 25% damage applied
zinc talon
crusher packs, I block cancel to chain heavy ones and hit each crusher in turn
because h1 will always stagger and sometimes ragdoll
so I'm keeping two maybe three crushers from being able to swing
calm salmon
Heavy 1>Push Attack>Heavy 1>Push Attack
It's not quite as efficient as Heavy 1>Block Cancel>Heavy 1 but I don't feel as dirty using push attacks in between heavy 1 attacks on slab shield
zinc talon
besides the main objective of darktide anyway isn't to kill
the primary goal, is to not die
if you don't die for long enough, the mission ends and you get paid
calm salmon
which. . . you do by killing enemies
zinc talon
which you do by not letting them deal damage
calm salmon
I'm too brain fried for this
you clearly have fun in darktide
otherwise you wouldn't have 3500 hours
zinc talon
yeah buddy you're a lil ornery
calm salmon
Who am I to judge
zinc talon
but I get it
my line of thinking is fucking infuriating to some people
but my missions get completed and chuckles are had by all
calm salmon
yeah buddy you're a lil ornery
I got one-tapped by 7.62x39 HP in SPTarkov from a scav because my body armor didn't cover my upper back
zinc talon
and the difficulty of the job is pared down more with me doing this than me attacking
calm salmon
I got one-tapped by 7.62x39 HP in SPTarkov from a scav because my body armor ...
this tends to make people ornery
zinc talon
plus, I've decided I'm over having to dodge bullets
getting shot is dumb
so it's the slab forevermore from here on out til something changes
slab, taunt, FNP, and shout give me the ability to grab every single enemy's attention in the room
all of em
and allow the smols to kill with reckless abandon because their swings are all free actions
lil bunny fuu fuu
meager turret
The pattern of:
get shot > take cover > get shot somewhere else > shoot the guy > get shot elsewhere again
does get old
zinc talon
this tends to make people ornery
that sucks
calm salmon
I mean I knew what I was doing
zinc talon
I have tarkov, I've played exactly two scav runs and one main dude run
calm salmon
I sacrificed upper back and neck armor for a lighter rig
zinc talon
and said nope, I do not want this negativity in my life
calm salmon
I got punished
zinc talon
life is about new growth
this^ is day z without the zeds, tarkov without the punishment for sins you've yet to committ
zinc talon
generic post apoc with permanence and trade and crafting and bases and SPEEDBOATS
and in the same vein as conan sexiles, you can rend your own server for pennies and play your game
with your friends
calm salmon
I can also do that with SPTarkov
zinc talon
and not XxRACIALSLUR42069xX
calm salmon
I'm just poor and can't afford a server
and my computer is not good enough to host
zinc talon
deadside almost reaches arma 3 in ballistics and combat capability
calm salmon
ideally you use a server rack attached to a battery in your house(Private friend use only, due to internet security concerns)
calm salmon
or you rent a server from a third party and host the Multiplayer mod for SPTarkov on there
both solutions are so the server can run 24/7
zinc talon
and can take 5 of your 10 connections so to speak and split them into another game to make a server for it too
I think I pay 7 bucks
for 8 or 10 concurrent users
so lil more
90 titles on offer
hell I had no idea tarkov could be run on a private server, I'm tempted to migrate there and test the water
calm salmon
hell I had no idea tarkov could be run on a private server, I'm tempted to migra...
Two separate mods, and all people trying to download Singleplayer Tarkov must own at least the basic edition of Tarkov itself.
zinc talon
ah so a lil greasing the gears then
calm salmon
But there's SPTarkov, which is just raw tarkov, but single player running off of a self-hosted server on your PC
zinc talon
welp I have a copy
oh that's kinda neat
this rig wouldn't even break a sweat, how do I get my hands on a working client
calm salmon
And then there's SIT(Stay in Tarkov) or FIKA for server hosting so you can play raids with your friend(With a gigacomputer, or 3rd locale server, separate raids if you so choose).
zinc talon
yeah Idc how it sounds but I'd prolly pick up tarkov with a quickness if I could just remove the downside risk of the fuckin people that play tarkov
I do not play games, to lose progress in them
that's time wasted to me
so if I could pve it, I'd give the game a real shot and see how much I like it
fossil crag
MY number has to be the highest one!!!!
Agreed, but if i see someone having higher dmg i go to my previous players, find their name and inspect their builds and weapons and try them ๐
zinc talon
(cropped out is he they ran a tier 2 with rank 15s)
meager turret
the "vP" part of Tarkov was really the main reason I didn't want to play it
but singleplayer sounds fun
zinc talon
preach
calm salmon
PvP in tarkov is actually goated
the problem is the rampant cheating.
It's so prevalent that you can never actually be sure if someone wasn't.
zinc talon
pvp shooters bring out the absolute worst in people, and long game character progression with permance pvp shooters attract actual unironic sociopaths
well sure, that's kinda what I mean
they cheat, to punish you even more than they could without the cheats
those pigfucks do it, to hurt you
on purpose, with intent
calm salmon
I mean, Tarkov has gotten really good at putting everyone on equal footing in the last patch or two with the recoil and armor rework.
calm salmon
I mean, Tarkov has gotten really good at putting everyone on equal footing in ...
It's really just the rampant cheating that's problematic.
zinc talon
yeah, it's holding them back from tons of copies sold because people like me won't play it
they're suffering in the marketplace due to it
calm salmon
You say that
but Nikita and BSG have gotten somewhere in the realm of half a billion dollars, if not a billion, during the lifetime of tarkov
there really just isn't another game like it
calm salmon
I can't suffer the term "realistic" anymore tbh
Does getting shot in the liver give me blood poisoning?
No?
unreal edge
pvp shooters bring out the absolute worst in people, and *long game character pr...
PLayed tarkov on and off for years. Not for the last 2 though. Game has gotten worse and worse community and cheat wise yes.
Hardcore pvp doesnt favour numbers. Tend to be more losers than winners. People get bored of being the loser, me included.
calm salmon
Then its not realistic is it
zinc talon
realistic these days is to do with bullet and explosion physics
like arma 3 is a military realism sim
calm salmon
I have an overhaul mod for SPTarkov installed
You can no longer heal in raid with a magical IFAK
zinc talon
good
calm salmon
you can only stop bleeds with them
makes combat way more terrifying
when a single bullet can basically put your whole raid on pause
zinc talon
people should have to deal with the fact this entire idea sucks and is horrible and makes you suffer
this little war of mine did a good job of that
STALKER too
calm salmon
That said, there are three combat stims that up the natural regen speed of your health
Not by a lot
calm salmon
But they're better than just waiting for your body to do it naturally
zinc talon
this game will send you into your next depressive spiral if you let it
calm salmon
we love injecting ourselves with strange needles in a post-war environment
zinc talon
it shows the pain and grief of a shooting conflict
frankly helldivers is almost offputting with its approach
calm salmon
uh
zinc talon
SWEET LIBERTY MY LEG
calm salmon
I don't mind the hyper-comedy
calm salmon
Not everything needs to be super real
zinc talon
absolutely
calm salmon
I can just go outside for that
frosty herald
okri dont get tarkov
zinc talon
I've had it forever, I won't play it tho
pve on a rented server sounds intriguing but not much more than that
deadside does a pretty good job of scratching that genre itch
I don't sit down with the little amount of free time I have to have somebody else jump out of a bush he's been cowering in for half an hour just to stab me in the spleen and teabag me while I wait for my timer to run out or whatever
zinc talon
hell even if I had all the free time in the world I wouldn't
cuz then I'd use that time to play those kind of gaslighting codepency building games and just spiral further
calm salmon
I mean, it's just an evolution of the Rogue/Roguelike/roguelite genre
It just added other people to it
for better and for worse.
zinc talon
huh, now that you say it
yeah I guess it is, showing up with what you got for the level and fuck you have fun but fuck you
calm salmon
It's a great gameplay loop, but it got kind of ruined by blatant aimbotters, radar users, and whatever other cheating nonsense.
It's not like. . . "I died to a blatant aimbotter every single raid"
but every single raid has silent cheaters
People using radar to see where people are and they just avoid them
and have a slight edge in firefights if they can't leave
placid fiber
Sounds petty
calm salmon
Silent cheaters are whatever
zinc talon
honestly yeah
calm salmon
They're usually pretty bad
zinc talon
was gonna say GTAO has a similar problem
calm salmon
So even the advantage a radar gives isn't really that important
zinc talon
and I've had my same account since I made it day one that online released on ps3
created in like 2014
calm salmon
Its just the "Chinese Man #1215412xy1zkash54515 flew through the wall, shot my head off and now I'm out a kit"
zinc talon
half a billion dollhairs earned
calm salmon
and even one of those instances is just incredibly offputting
zinc talon
so I'm absolutely not gonna pick up a mod whatever to give myself some armor against the real modders
luckily, I'm me, and figured out if you suspend the game's process in the resource monitor for about ten seconds and then resume it
the game thinks you're melting down and instantly kicks you to your own lobby
calm salmon
there's a protection mod out there that keeps people from fucking with you, both single player and multiplayer
Though Rockstar added private servers with progress a long time ago
zinc talon
so the sec anyone starts up the baboonery I tap the hotkey and zwip into an empty server all to my own
yeah they finally finally caved
calm salmon
Due to that exact issue. Some dude flies up, gives you 30 billion dollars and then fucks off
or they just keep killing you and your team over and over in the middle of a heist or whatever
zinc talon
and now you can do anything in a closed lobby you used to only be able to do in a public
all your businesses and heists, anything, can be done in a closed
calm salmon
Which is, frankly, necessary.
prisma sigil
Why not just pay 250$ for the secret exclusive PVE mode
placid fiber
It's stupid that you have to go that far just to do things
calm salmon
Cool on rockstar for not making people self-host at least
calm salmon
Why not just pay 250$ for the secret exclusive PVE mode
I have that for free now, which is neat.
Nikita caved and gave PVE to everyone with EOD
prisma sigil
Yeah they caved pretty fast on that
frosty herald
so suddenly eod owners are true believers now?
prisma sigil
I don't fuck with Tarkov anymor ebecause of stuff exactly like that
zinc talon
oh you're kidding me
prisma sigil
Russian scam game that's been in beta for like 7 years
zinc talon
that is STAR CITIZEN levels of sheer fuckin audacity
prisma sigil
They weren't gonna give the PVE mode to the 150$ EOD players at first either
and they caved to the immediate and massive backlash
zinc talon
yeah when I first heard about tarkov and started to sniff around to see what it was
the second I saw that a russian was at the head position iin the company I said naw I'm good I'm not playing it
frosty herald
and they caved to the immediate and massive backlash
"im sorry the community feels this way"
prisma sigil
I didn't cus Stalker and Metro are fantastic
zinc talon
remind me, it's not the same guy who ratfucked the full title day z was it
prisma sigil
But yeah Tarkov is a no-no
frosty herald
tarkov would be the perfect stalker copy
prisma sigil
Nah Czech
prisma sigil
Bohemia Interactive is a czech company and Dean Hall was a New Zealander
zinc talon
nationalism is funny
placid fiber
Gah, I am stuck inbetween able to play games and completely crashing
prisma sigil
They did fix DayZ a good while ago though
placid fiber
It just keeps going back and forth
prisma sigil
The only thing it's really missing is more vehicles and flying vehicles
zinc talon
I'll take your word for it, never again
calm salmon
tarkov would be the perfect stalker copy
We're still supposed get radiation damage, food sickness, illness, comas, team revives, team healing, and a few other things in Tarkov
(It's never gonna happen)
prisma sigil
We're still supposed get radiation damage, food sickness, illness, comas, team ...
Don't forget the 'all maps combined mode'
zinc talon
honestly day z has been in perfect working order for like a decade
you just need arma 2 to play it
prisma sigil
(its never going to happen)
calm salmon
Don't forget the 'all maps combined mode'
Oh that got confirmed dumpstered.
prisma sigil
Oh it did? F
prisma sigil
DayZ Mod is still crippled by ArmA 2 physics
zinc talon
all maps combined, you say
prisma sigil
nah nah nah
frosty herald
7 years in beta and plenty of forgotten or straight up lied about features
calm salmon
The biggest thing I don't like about DayZ is the itemization and inventory management.
It's just clunky to be clunky
and feels terrible to use
prisma sigil
Call of Chernobyl is all well and good but you might as well play Gamma now
zinc talon
...there's a new one
zinc talon
prisma sigil
Then they made Gamma which is like a new Anomaly
calm salmon
I don't like horror games.
frosty herald
https://www.moddb.com/mods/call-of-chernobyl
may i introduce you to stalker op 2.2
calm salmon
You couldn't get to me to play STALKER with a gun pointed at my head in an insane SAW setup deal
They really get under my skin
prisma sigil
Wym? You just download the gamepack and launch it lol
maiden path
the first ones good
maiden path
played it on the hardest difficulty and had lots of fun
zinc talon
jokes aside, even call of pripyat the third title is showing its age pretty hardcore
maiden path
its not horribly hard
prisma sigil
Yeah Metro 2033 has some underrated horror moments.
frosty herald
download the zone reclamation mod from a website built in 2006
calm salmon
Cus the scary
Yeah. I don't really know why, but horror video games really get under my skin.
zinc talon
sheesh
calm salmon
Some horror movies, but usually not.
zinc talon
lol about that
calm salmon
Suspension of disbelief isn't quite there for me in movies/tv shows
zinc talon
when I was full timing the stalker series and living with a roommate
placid fiber
Yeah. I don't really know why, but horror video games really get under my ski...
I get jump scared really easily since I startle easily, myself.
calm salmon
But games really bother me.
prisma sigil
Metro has mostly action and stealth but I love how all the games have mutant sections that will just scare the shit out of you
zinc talon
I had this desk, that had a really rickety pull drawer in the center
calm salmon
But that's probably because of headphones/ambiance development skill from game studios
prisma sigil
But games *really* bother me.
It's cus you're actually in there, controlling the protagonist. You're more immersed
zinc talon
STALKER would jump scare me so bad I'd yelp and my knees would slam into that
and scare the absolute shit outta my roomie
prisma sigil
@zinc talon The fat fuck mutants that psychic attack you always jumpscared my ass
maiden path
i could fuck this up
zinc talon
one day he finally had enough and with no preamble walked into my room
maiden path
in a good way
zinc talon
pulled my chair back with me still in tit
placid fiber
should i pick this up
don't do it, you have so much to live for!!!
zinc talon
ripped the drawer out of the desk
maiden path
don't do it, you have so much to live for!!!
i NEED ghost
zinc talon
and took it to the dumpster
maiden path
is the issue
frosty herald
shadow of chernobyl is proper spooy
placid fiber
i NEED ghost
I mean go ahead and get it if you have the extra melk bucks
frosty herald
until you learn enemy placements and get an actual good gun
prisma sigil
I've never been able to play any of the original stalker games honestly
maiden path
I mean go ahead and get it if you have the extra melk bucks
wtf else would i spend melk bucks on
prisma sigil
I started with Call of Chernobyl and I cant downgrade
especially after anomaly / gamma came out
placid fiber
wtf else would i spend melk bucks on
Um Uh um... potato salad...?
maiden path
Um Uh um... potato salad...?
he doesnt sell that i checked
maiden path
potato salad was outlawed when the god emperor of mankind deemed it a being of nurgle
meager turret
I was gonna bring up Stalker during the Tarkov conversation so I'm glad to see where we're at
prisma sigil
the funniest part about stalker is how people will just mod the age away
https://youtu.be/f6wDdUtb6O8?t=178 @zinc talon
people get it looking / feeling / sounding like tarkov
and its not even that hard to run
zinc talon
does anyone without straying into the very obvious segues we could get into
maiden path
lmao
prisma sigil
it's supposed to be coming out this year
calm salmon
https://youtu.be/f6wDdUtb6O8?t=178 <@345858073233063966>
the m4 made me irrationally angry
we're in ukraine
in lockdown
WHY IS THERE A BRAND NEW M4
placid fiber
Horror games aren't for me. I don't like being jump scared... and I don't really want to feel afraid, since I am paranoid enough as it is
zinc talon
I feel like it's selfish for me to even check and form an opinion
prisma sigil
Yea but there's nato troops in the zone
calm salmon
Like I said, irrationally angry.
calm salmon
Give me junky beat up "why is it JAMMING" aks
prisma sigil
they bring in NATO gear
prisma sigil
Give me junky beat up "why is it JAMMING" aks
oh those are all there
meager turret
the *thing*
I don't recall any particularly bad news about development? There's a release date so surely we're all good there
prisma sigil
in fact the hardest fucking part of GAMMA or Anomaly is trying to keep your fucking gun in good condition
It's a pain in the ass to get good parts and repair them
zinc talon
my gut is telling me that's an HK416
calm salmon
Horror games aren't for me. I don't like being jump scared... and I don't really...
based and pill warriored
zinc talon
but who actually knows
placid fiber
based and pill warriored
o7
prisma sigil
Horror games aren't for me. I don't like being jump scared... and I don't really...
I love horror games
frosty herald
in lockdown
you do know that there are a multitude of smugglers operatives and goverment agents sneaking into the zone right
placid fiber
I love horror games
Then play your heart out in em. I'm gonna stick with the stuff I actually like
spare dome
darkwood helped me get through covid lel
zinc talon
I don't recall any particularly bad news about development? There's a release da...
I'd heard the team has lost people to the conflict but it was a while ago and I have no other context or support to it
meager turret
Stalker did a fine job at stressing me out without actually jumpscaring me and learning that there were no actual jumpscares was the reason I started playing it
prisma sigil
The best horror games are the ones where you can fight back and you're STILL scared
calm salmon
you do know that there are a multitude of smugglers operatives and goverment age...
Yeah but I wouldn't expect "Straight off the factory floor" m4s and Hks. The weapon models are too clean.
prisma sigil
Games like Outlast / Amnesia are GOOD, but it's an easy tactic to just NOT let you fight the monsters
zinc talon
and they themselves put out a PSA saying development was on ice because they were either fleeing or going to muster up to serve
prisma sigil
Dead Space and Metro will scare the dogfuck out of you even when you've got a full mag
maiden path
Games like Outlast / Amnesia are GOOD, but it's an easy tactic to just NOT let y...
why the fuck would i want to fight the monster
calm salmon
and they themselves put out a PSA saying development was on ice because they wer...
STALKER 2 is set to release Q3 or Q4 of this year
frosty herald
darkwood just made me annoyed
maiden path
darkwood just made me annoyed
get gud!
calm salmon
if there's no more delays, we will get it
zinc talon
or no, more generally something like 'we can't tell you when this date or that date is coming because things are too crazy'
frosty herald
the nights at the second house are annoying
calm salmon
but yes, it got delayed twice because of the war
spare dome
i beat it as a roguelike
prisma sigil
why the fuck would i want to fight the monster
cus its a monster
spare dome
it was an excellent time
maiden path
cus its a monster
'i MUST have the big shotgun and let the game go "KILL THE BIG MONSTER!!!"'
prisma sigil
The best part about the Friday the 13th game was micspamming party boy music and dancing on Jason after shooting him in the face with a shotgun to stun him
placid fiber
Meanwhile I was playing rogue lites >.>
prisma sigil
'i MUST have the big shotgun and let the game go "KILL THE BIG MONSTER!!!"'
I mean like I said, in good horror games, you'll still get scared
spare dome
also the second house is the only real safe house <.< house three is the trap
placid fiber
mainly ror2...
maiden path
I mean like I said, in good horror games, you'll still get scared
amnesia fucks
spare dome
do not attempt to survive in house 3
prisma sigil
Some games are bad at it though, like Alien Isolation. Once you get the flamethrower the game isn't scary at all
prisma sigil
amnesia fucks
Yea I said that
But it's easy to scare you when you literally can't fight back
placid fiber
amnesia fucks
Oh I know amnesia is a good game, and I know it does what it does well... >.>'
prisma sigil
It's more impressive when the game scares you when you have an arsenal
maiden path
But it's easy to scare you when you literally can't fight back
is that supposed to be bad
oh
prisma sigil
No
maiden path
das wshat ur saiyng..
prisma sigil
yea no
I love Outlast / Amnesia I said it earlier
speaking of
Have you played Outlast Trials
It's fun
prisma sigil
F
placid fiber
When you're fully loaded and scared out of your mind then that's the type of horror game for ye
despite having all upgrades all weapons all everything
prisma sigil
When you're fully loaded and scared out of your mind then that's the type of hor...
Metro, Resident Evil, Stalker, Dead Space, etc
maiden path
melk what the fuck do i want a +2 stamina curio for
calm salmon
Dead Space never really bothered me
placid fiber
Metro, Resident Evil, Stalker, Dead Space, etc
Dead Space indeed
prisma sigil
even dying light can be pretty scary sometimes
calm salmon
yeah I got jump scared
prisma sigil
Dead Space never really bothered me
HOW did the first Dead Space not scare you
calm salmon
but their ambiance wasn't. . . that good
maiden path
even dying light can be pretty scary sometimes
dying light got 10x less scarey when you become spiderman with a insta kill machete
prisma sigil
the second one wasn't as scary as the first imo
calm salmon
agree to disagree
its music and background audio for the most part for me
placid fiber
HOW did the first Dead Space not scare you
if the cheap jump scares don't scare em, then the game's atmosphere is a lot more chill...
maiden path
having to beat a zombie to death with a wrench after dropkicking it is great
calm salmon
and dead space doesn't have great of either
zinc talon
can't tell you a specific why to it, but I just never pulled the trigger on any of the dead space franchise
prisma sigil
I only played the first one
zinc talon
no strong opinions either way
prisma sigil
the second and third ones didn't look as good
zinc talon
the few snippets of lore that've stuck sound intriguing
the enemies don't die, or something
placid fiber
All I know is dead space 1 and 2 are good, from watching someone who loves the franchise
zinc talon
can't die
maiden path
me fighting dying light zombies
placid fiber
and dead space 3 was a disaster
hushed knoll
https://tenor.com/view/resident-evil7-welcome-to-family-son-gif-21944836
Hi Doughthony
meager turret
and they themselves put out a PSA saying development was on ice because they wer...
interesting, I only remember seeing threats and that the devs were just like "no lol"
prisma sigil
this game I absolutely loved
prisma sigil
hushed knoll
https://tenor.com/view/katamari-driving-katamari-damacy-gif-22734901
๐
maiden path
dbd fucks compared to friday the 13nth
friday the 13nehth was so unbalanced it was absurd
prisma sigil
DbD is toxic and overshadowed by the fact that they made it 100% competitive
F13 was fun, nobody was worried about their stupid rank
(i have 700 hours on DBD and I regret every one)
maiden path
DbD is toxic and overshadowed by the fact that they made it 100% competitive
that video just had the jason get stunned for 15 seconds
zinc talon
interesting, I only remember seeing threats and that the devs were just like "no...
I want to say, it was a notice they put up on their steam store page but don't remember
maiden path
that shits not fun
prisma sigil
that shits not fun
the jason was laughing his ass off
placid fiber
(i have 700 hours on DBD and I regret every one)
Yeah... I prefer to not regret the hours I've put into a game by getting games I know I'm gonna like x.x
prisma sigil
Nobody cares about the imbalance when you aren't risking a rank or anything like that
maiden path
the jason was laughing his ass off
doesnt change the fact some fuckoff squad could stun a jason for 15 seconds while emoting
you dont risk shit in dbd either
prisma sigil
Yeah but Jason could also just zoom around and instakill people
maiden path
you have a fake rank thats about it
prisma sigil
That's not how people treat it tho and you know it
People treat it like it's the end of the world
maiden path
People treat it like it's the end of the world
ive played dbd
zinc talon
speaking of zeds, I just noticed the other day that project zomboid is so updated and maintained
prisma sigil
DBD is also famous for its imbalance and toxicity
maiden path
no one gives a shit about the rank
zinc talon
it's a 3d game now
maiden path
you cant pipdown anymore
zinc talon
it's no longer 2d sprites
maiden path
dbd's balance is actually so shit its insane doe
zinc talon
yeah but the staying power
maiden path
blight being the only arguably balanced killer is crazey
zinc talon
credit where it's due it's impressive
prisma sigil
thats what I mean
F13 is still imbalanced
But nobody cared
It was just fun to play
maiden path
dbd's fun to play
zinc talon
oh speaking of not that
prisma sigil
DBD survivors and killers are equal parts toxic and imbalanced because half of them are babyraging about their rank
maiden path
u fuckers just running into the wrong ppl
prisma sigil
https://store.steampowered.com/app/493520?snr=5000_5100___primarylinks
THIS GAME FUCKS
placid fiber
https://store.steampowered.com/app/493520?snr=5000_5100___primarylinks
Now that's a horror game I would like to actually play
maiden path
mods post the spear instakill for gtfo
zinc talon
fuck it I'm gonna reinstall it call my plugg and turn all the lights off
prisma sigil
I love GTFO, it's so fucking difficult lol
zinc talon
apparently this one is also punishment for sins you've yet to committ
prisma sigil
Yeah honestly they've added a lot of dumb killers
prisma sigil
It's basically become fucking fortnite
maiden path
It's basically become fucking fortnite
???
frosty herald
dbd is extremely toxic
zinc talon
this one is so unfuckingforgiving it didn't even make me angry
sterile stone
My water nearly went flying onto my screen
prisma sigil
Too many licensed characters, extremely toxic community, ridiculously imbalanced game with ridiculous devs
prisma sigil
I played it for ages but I just stopped because it always just made me angry more than enjoying it
zinc talon
I just alt f4'd, uninstalled, and calmly took a walk around the block to kick the first person I came across in the shin
fleet zealot
Thats how i felt about arma 3
I was going through the tutorial and just had a moment where
zinc talon
I adored arma 3 for its helicopter flight physics
prisma sigil
I played the absolute shit out of Arma 2
prisma sigil
I got about 500 hours on 3
placid fiber
Ugh, I hate pvp games so fucking much x.x
prisma sigil
Ugh, I hate pvp games so fucking much x.x
honestly yeah
Most pvp games have the same issue I have with DBD
placid fiber
I've never been into them
maiden path
Ugh, I hate pvp games so fucking much x.x
prisma sigil
People take it too seriously
fleet zealot
This doesnt feel like a game it feels like im genuinely learning how to military
zinc talon
I can fly any helo in any game almost immediately because arma 3 is so informative in how it gives you your sensory information
fleet zealot
So i uninstalled and refunded
prisma sigil
ArmA 3 isn't really a PVP game though
zinc talon
and how fuck you unforgiving in messing up
placid fiber
but I've grown further and further away from pvp as I have gotten older
frosty herald
This doesnt feel like a game it feels like im genuinely learning how to military
the arma community is very deticated
prisma sigil
Like there ARE pvp servers you could play but for every PVP server there's like 5 PVE servers
sterile stone
I thought people bought Arma 3 for shit like Altis Life or Day Z mod
zinc talon
arma 3's biggest obstacle to enjoyment is its keybinding
maiden path
fighting games are the only games that let me stick people in 4 second long grab animations
thats why i play them
prisma sigil
I thought people bought Arma 3 for shit like Altis Life or Day Z mod
nah ArmA 3 doesn't really have a popular zombie mod
There used to be Breaking Point, which was unironically awesome, but it died a long time ago
zinc talon
ooooh I almost started shouting until I saw you said #3
frosty herald
beb who you maining
zinc talon
arma 2 is the game that birthed day z
maiden path
beb who you maining
KING
zinc talon
like half life was for counterstrike
sterile stone
Sadly missed out on the golden days of Arma 2 DayZ mod
prisma sigil
Honestly DayZ pissed me off at first because I played ArmA 2 for Takistan Life and people would just get ArmA 2 to play the zombie mod and nobody would spill over to the life servers
zinc talon
man
prisma sigil
but the mod was fun so i ended up playing it some too
meager turret
The only Arma I played was Cold War Assault
Fascinating experience
sterile stone
Honestly DayZ pissed me off at first because I played ArmA 2 for Takistan Life a...
I mean
zinc talon
I pickjed up operation flashpoint in like middle school
placid fiber
I missed out on the golden days of half life...
prisma sigil
ArmA 3 is lacking the added fun of dealing with ArmA 2's terrible physics
sterile stone
All the big youtubers were adverting the shit out of DayZ mod
placid fiber
I can't even remember what I was doing
prisma sigil
such ass running down stairs and breaking your legs
zinc talon
if I'd only known what it would eventually lead to
sterile stone
It geniuenly looked hella fun
prisma sigil
Oh yeah it was
zinc talon
such ass running down stairs and breaking your legs
vehicle collisions
maiden path
https://tenor.com/view/tekken-tekken-8-fight-fighting-flex-gif-68010730704942844...
get dat damn bladerunner 2077 ripoff off my screen!!!!!!!!!!
prisma sigil
The DayZ standalone is pretty good though, especially if you play a modded server
maiden path
bladeruner 2049
meager turret
I missed out on the golden days of half life...
What do you mean?
sterile stone
The good old days of Frankiein1080p before people found out he faked all his day z interactions
zinc talon
yeeting a tank five miles in the air and ten miles down the road cuz you hit it with a 4 wheeler at five miles an hour
prisma sigil
The good old days of Frankiein1080p before people found out he faked all his day...
I didn't know days existed when people didn't know all of Frankie's videos were scripted
zinc talon
physics engine said ONWARD
placid fiber
What do you mean?
I missed out on being able to play a game that old and actually enjoy the physics after everything I've already played
zinc talon
THERE IS FUCKERY TO SPREAD
fleet zealot
arma's 3 biggest obstactle is that it never felt like a game
fleet zealot
it was like, playing dota 2 ranked
prisma sigil
I don't mind that, I just hated the atmosphere
sterile stone
I didn't know days existed when people didn't know all of Frankie's videos were ...
I found out Frankie scripted all his videos like a few years ago
fleet zealot
it took me getting a job at mcdonalds
to get me to realize playing dota 2 ranked all day made me feel like I was working a job
zinc talon
yeah the people that play arma 3 maps even semi and not fulltime
fleet zealot
not having fun playing a game
sterile stone
Which was tragic as fuck cause as a kid I thought these were genuine interactions
prisma sigil
I hate the bland, way too large map, I hate the made-up CSAT faction, I hate that we don't have all the classic weapons like arma 2 had, yech
zinc talon
they are a strange breed
placid fiber
I can feel the fact half life 1 is dated when I tried to play it, and I wasn't too keen on the weapons either
prisma sigil
I have to play ArmA 3 modded to enjoy it
misty mason
did stan make this post?
spare talon
https://store.steampowered.com/app/493520?snr=5000_5100___primarylinks
i tried this game during a free weekend
honestly not really a fan
im more "in the heat of action" tactical
not this kind of tacitical
prisma sigil
Like I have Chernarus and Takistan practically memorized but Altis is just an unenjoyable heap and I never even tried to get familiar with it
maiden path
I can feel the fact half life 1 is dated when I tried to play it, and I wasn't t...
black mesa
prisma sigil
did stan make this post?
Why would anybody want t2 blessings
sterile stone
Isn't Altis what's keeping Arma 3 afloat anyways now and days
spare talon
Why would anybody want t2 blessings
manstopper
fletchette
meager turret
I missed out on being able to play a game that old and actually enjoy the physic...
I see I see
I was also late to the goldsource party but found a lot of fun playing sven co-op which released on steam in like 2015
spare talon
are only in tier 2
misty mason
I think there are some t2 exclusives
fleet zealot
did stan make this post?
this is a fair criticism cause the only reliable way to get t2 blessings is to either have a low level character or stalk the hourly shop
prisma sigil
Isn't Altis what's keeping Arma 3 afloat anyways now and days
I think most people play modded
fleet zealot
Why would anybody want t2 blessings
shotguns
minor sage
i tried this game during a free weekend
honestly not really a fan
im more "in th...
i heard it's just... not fun lol
placid fiber
I see I see
I was also late to the goldsource party but found a lot of fun playi...
I've never wanted to get into half life, to be honest
prisma sigil
manstopper
fletchette
i did not know this
misty mason
this is a fair criticism cause the only reliable way to get t2 blessings is to e...
I was just referring to the way it was written
minor sage
like it's supposed to be a super hardcore super difficult game
frosty herald
this is a fair criticism cause the only reliable way to get t2 blessings is to e...
crafting rework will fix this frfr
fleet zealot
yea i'm not a milsim, i like military games every now and then, but I want to play a game
minor sage
but my friend said it's just not fun to play
maiden path
crafting rework will fix this frfr
in 4 months
fleet zealot
not learn how fucking GPS coords work
spare talon
i heard it's just... not fun lol
like it introduces tons of cools mechanics but im not really too keen on playing a stealth shooter horror co-op game
prisma sigil
but my friend said it's just not fun to play
It's subjective
I think it's fun as hell, I enjoy the difficulty and I love stealth games
fleet zealot
bullet drop is one thing, and like, in sniper elite of course there is more bullet physics, but arma
๐คข
sterile stone
I want a pve game like tarkov to play with friends without the$250 pricetag Nikita is charging people.
spare talon
i just watched brickys video on it and im content with that
prisma sigil
It really just depends on your preferences
spare talon
after playing 1 game of it
prisma sigil
GTFO is definitely a game where you and the squad have to lock in though
If you screw around you'll probably die
minor sage
It's subjective
idk seems most people feel this way https://steamcharts.com/app/493520
sterile stone
See
prisma sigil
ArmA 3 you can absolutely fuck around
placid fiber
If you screw around you'll probably die
Yeah GTFO requires teamwork and timing
prisma sigil
idk seems most people feel this way https://steamcharts.com/app/493520
It's not for everyone
sterile stone
And every now and then meet another survivor
prisma sigil
You have to coordinate well with your teammates, who are most likely randoms if you don't have friends to play it with regularly
gray ice
Scav supplies
so day z
minor sage
from what I hear, the game is exponentially harder if you fuck up the stealth
placid fiber
from what I hear, the game is exponentially harder if you fuck up the stealth
It is lol
spare talon
It's not for everyone
tbh it requires too much info to be known before you even start, which makes the barrier for entry so high
fleet zealot
what a handsome lad
minor sage
and idk i feel like that just is kinda unfun in a horde game no?
leaden pebble
Yeah GTFO requires teamwork and timing
gtfo fucks
sterile stone
so day z
I don't wanna get shot at by some dude who stayed up til 4 am to loot mili tents right at the start of a server refresh
placid fiber
gtfo fucks
I know
prisma sigil
and idk i feel like that just is kinda unfun in a horde game no?
It's not just a simple horde game
fleet zealot
gtfo is for tryhards
spare talon
and idk i feel like that just is kinda unfun in a horde game no?
it isnt exactly a HORDE horde game
prisma sigil
that's like calling Hunt Showdown a battle royale
fleet zealot
it's a "avoid" the horde game
minor sage
it's a "avoid" the horde game
wtf that sounds so unfun LOL
sterile stone
Hunt is just Louisiana life sim
nimble fiber
prisma sigil
GTFO is designed to be a hard game and was never designed to be a huge mainstream game
leaden pebble
gtfo isnt really a horde shooter
fleet zealot
if you have a horde in gtfo, it either means you lost or abuot to fight for your life
placid fiber
When someone fucks up the tracker guy and it wakes up half the building... oops
prisma sigil
if you have a horde in gtfo, it either means you lost or abuot to fight for your...
I mean you have to fight hordes for objectives
But the idea is you try to clear rooms as you move through them quietly so you dont have to fight the whole rooms at once
sterile stone
GTFO doesn't encourage ogryn gameplay from what I've seen of it.
leaden pebble
gtfo is extremely tense and very fun
also takes a lot of teamwork
it is by all means a very brain on game
sterile stone
My thing is this
prisma sigil
It's not that you have to stealth or you'll die, but if you don't stealth, you'll probably end up with not enough ammo to manage the mandatory hordes at objectives eventually
placid fiber
I can do teamwork, but, I am not great at teamwork and precision timing
sterile stone
Having to coordinate a melee strike on mobs
With randoms
Is easier said than done
fleet zealot
i'm just not great
leaden pebble
id never play it with people i dont know
prisma sigil
GTFO should not ever be played out of voice honestly
leaden pebble
i suck at the game but it is a blast with a group of friends
leaden pebble
GTFO should not ever be played out of voice honestly
agreed
prisma sigil
If you want to play GTFO, either play with friends or join the official discord and use their LFG channels
I played with randoms in the official discord and it went great
It's literally just a game that encourages patience
spare talon
my first and only game was with 1 random since no one else joined
we were both starting out
we died at our first engagement
prisma sigil
If you try to rush through you will fuck up and die
placid fiber
I'm more of a I'm my only reason I am not dead in Darktide, and I don't ever expect randoms to have my back ever lol
fleet zealot
i've said this before but i've started really liking nice controlled fun rides for video games, and a lot less games that are iether build your own fun, or get your fun if you can work with a team of players
leaden pebble
gtfo is also next to impossible with <4 players since it has no scaling
placid fiber
I don't care if they are god-tier randoms, I don't expect my back to be covered
prisma sigil
gtfo is also next to impossible with <4 players since it has no scaling
It's doable though, there are lots of vids of people soloing or duoing missions
leaden pebble
my 4 man team has maybe a 40% success rate
prisma sigil
It's one of those games with a high skill ceiling where you can git gud
sterile stone
I'm more of a I'm my only reason I am not dead in Darktide, and I don't ever exp...
I'd talk more in pubs if pubs weren't insufferable
You either got the guy narrating the entire match
frosty herald
sterile stone
Some clown playing group DJ
prisma sigil
GTFO is unique and it's not for everyone, honestly it's not for MOST people. but the people who do like it love it. i absolutely love it even though I don't play it that often
sterile stone
Or some guy with his entire family over for the holidays
spare talon
i will only talk in randoms if i absolutely have to, AND only if someone else is talking
in any game
north sedge
one of the more tense moments ive had in a game was me having to type dos commands while i hear the horde absolutely banging on the door near me and hoping my team can protect me
prisma sigil
There's not a lot of games where team cooperation is as necessary and it's fun to really have to work together w ppl to beat the games
spare talon
anything else will be said in text chat
placid fiber
Yeah... I tend to mute voice chat if it is distracting
sterile stone
Why the fuck do people sit so close to their tv that you can hear the game through their mic
spare talon
one of the more tense moments ive had in a game was me having to type dos comman...
duskers type shit
zinc talon
i tried this game during a free weekend
honestly not really a fan
im more "in th...
I picked it up on a sale for pennies on the dollar
shame it's like that, so is ready or not
can spend an hour methodically working through the entire mission
spare talon
shame it's like that, so is ready or not
ok but ready or not is the game with bing chilling in the game files so it gets a pass
placid fiber
can spend an hour methodically working through the entire mission
and then have 1 fuck up screw you
zinc talon
then nope you didn't double check that corner from across the map then backtrack again to catch the last guy while he's staring at a wall for ten seconds every blue moon
the crazy drug fueled cultist with scabs on his head and hardly any hair just put a round through your eyeball at fifty meters
placid fiber
Or nearly screw you, if you are coordinated
leaden pebble
i love how quickly everything can go to shit
zinc talon
yep it's a definite hands up WELP generator
placid fiber
i love how quickly everything can go to shit
I mean isn't Darktide kind of like that, when playing with randos? >.>'
spare talon
yes, but in darktide you can literally outskill most situations
leaden pebble
its less of a big deal, cause you can clutch, games are faster/shorter etc
spare talon
thats what i like about it
prisma sigil
Ready or Not is surprisingly hard lol
north sedge
just different games
placid fiber
yes, but in darktide you can literally outskill *most* situations
Yeah, when you pull off that amazing clutch it feels good
hushed knoll
just different games
I passed the Ensure section at the store and cringed
leaden pebble
idk how we got comparing these games in the first place
they're not even comparable in like, any sense
hushed knoll
gray ice
I don't wanna get shot at by some dude who stayed up til 4 am to loot mili tents...
smells like teen skissue
north sedge
someone tried to say gtfo was a horde game, basically
meager turret
I usually sacrifice too much health saving teammates over the match to get clutch opportunities 
sterile stone
Ready or Not is surprisingly hard lol
Most RoN matches turn into civilian death count sim in pubs
placid fiber
idk how we got comparing these games in the first place
they're not even compara...
I mean there are niche situations that can be nearly the same, but, yes the two are vastly different games
sterile stone
Mfs shoot anything with legs and a pulse
sterile stone
smells like teen skissue
gray ice
gtfo is basically a survival horror game
placid fiber
Yeah
open pollen
Man, folks must really like multiplayer survival games. Theres like... a ton of those that came out this year
spare talon
Yeah, when you pull off that amazing clutch it feels good
i also enjoy the personal progression of just getting better at the game
like i clutched a game with ease and my team was flipping their shit at it but it was nothing compared to other stuff ive managed to get through by the skin of my teeth
which makes me realize how capable ive gotten if i dont find that situation threatening
gray ice
it's re2 with friends but you share the same amount of resources and there's like 4x as many zombies that happen to sprint
leaden pebble
its a horror coop shooter
i would not call it survival
placid fiber
i also enjoy the personal progression of just getting better at the game
like i ...
I don't have that luxury since my skill goes up when I'm panicked... <.<'
sterile stone
it's re2 with friends but you share the same amount of resources and there's lik...
Speaking of this
gray ice
as someone who's played it I'd call it survival 
sterile stone
Still considering WWZ
open pollen
its a horror coop shooter
i would not call it survival
horror coop shooter? What are we talking about?
gray ice
the absolute scareceness of resources that you have to share between 4 people is comical
leaden pebble
survival as in fighting for your fuckin life
placid fiber
I'm pretty meh when I am not panicked at all...
open pollen
I was making an unrelated statement