and then flamer on top of that
#zealot-class
wicked sage
They can't suffer any other damage as far as I can tell
wicked sage
I was doing that but I keep getting interrupted, so I think I'm going to try Shroudfield to drop aggro before roasting them
ornate bone
naaw
u gunna need fury for the extra dmg
idk if shroudfield makes u do more dmg with flamer
wicked sage
Fury only affects melee
Shroudfield +100% finesse damage
ornate bone
feel like fury worked on flamer too b4 or smth
oh it do buff guns too.
test in meat grinder what works best
wicked sage
I think my issue is my own timing and team members getting in the way
stone fern
left iron
Fury only affects melee
Shroudfield +100% finesse damage
Fury (chastise) affects ranged, notably because it downgrades armor (cara -> flak, flak -> unarmored) making something like a flamer very strong against even crushers
The effect lasts for 5 seconds
wicked sage
I stand corrected
left iron
You can see it from this very old clip i made sometime around release of patch 13. It still functions the same
ornate bone
now if only u could bring flamer with u and have teammates that can shoot snipers and bombers
most pubs i feel like im only one doing it
hushed knoll
You can see it from this very old clip i made sometime around release of patch 1...
Hello Eisu-chan
hushed knoll
No Cthulhu eyes please
coarse birch
hushed knoll
No
ashen pecan
just go 5 difficulty tbh
steep flame
Playing bloodborne finally
Smacked Gascoigne so hard he couldnt even put on his stupid fucking fursuit in time
frosty herald
Smacked Gascoigne so hard he couldnt even put on his stupid fucking fursuit in t...
get the logarius wheel
ornate bone
ay yama wat shud i do with this thing
steep flame
get the logarius wheel
I was gonna use the stake driver
cerulean moth
any tips for finishing behind enemmy lines quickly? this shit is ass
blissful frigate
any tips for finishing behind enemmy lines quickly? this shit is ass
Just knife zealot ahead whenever you get the chance and notice there's shooters sitting around. It's not as bad as the throwing knife kills and invisible backstab as long as you got the movement speed to work to it
Push and then dodge around them. If they are agro'd on you and they aren't staggered then they are 100% facing you no matter the direction they seem to be facing. Either have to do that or be invisible to get the backstab credit on them
vital patio
Should I invest?
vast basin
I wouldn't. Not great perks, lvl3 blessings
I would only buy to grab hand cannon 3 since you don't have it, but I also have a surplus of melks
steep flame
but what about both<:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
Good idea
placid fiber
No Cthulhu eyes please
Oddly specific...
spare talon
ornate bone
Should I invest?
not the best but it work.
reroll perks ig and hope for better one in future
placid fiber
Wouldn't the aiming gives crit work better than crucian?
Then again that leaves either a stamina or a crit perk
ornate bone
yep
spare talon
But it's not worth the melkbux
He better be selling the cure to cancer, or a good tier 4 blessing to pull
For you to be justified in spending a weekly gated currency
hushed agate
Does fortitude in fellowship increase all toughness regeneration or just the passive regeneration you get from being near people
spare talon
Does fortitude in fellowship increase all toughness regeneration or just the pas...
What node is that again
spare talon
I don't remember which it does, but I remember it not actually doing anything last time I checked
hushed agate
+25% coherency toughness regen
hushed agate
I don't remember which it does, but I remember it not actually doing anything la...
Oh
spare talon
But that was like
Months ago so idk if they fixed it
I believe based on how it's worded it'd be coherency regen which isn't good either way for zealot
placid fiber
+25% coherency toughness regen
coherency regeneration only affects regeneration from coherency
Just like toughness regen speed
gloomy thunder
hi huys do you recommend min or max height for melee zealots ?
placid fiber
Probably somewhere inbetween tbh
closer to max height
I do close to max height on all of mine
Being able to shoot elites/specials in a crowd is nice, tho
misty nova
If you pick min you'll have to aim slightly up to hit weakspot
placid fiber
I mean you're also a smaller target
but... I wouldn't advise a short zealot
At least not for a first one
misty nova
If you pick min you'll have to aim slightly up to hit weakspot
If you pick max you'll have a harder time taking cover
placid fiber
And you're a larger target
I haven't had many issues with that, tho, on my zealots
Then again I was a vt2 veteran, when I started Darktide
misty nova
I like seeing tiny zealots, they look like rats
tropic pelican
who needs cover when you can simply press f
placid fiber
ffffffffffffffffffffffff
Oh wait, you meant the career skill
Just don't make the mistake of rebinding the career skill key to the weapon swap key(without rebinding this key as well), that is never a good thing to do x.x
That's honestly an easy mistake to do, with how many keybindings there are :/
placid fiber
I think I changed tag to c or v and that was the main thing
having to reach over to t to tag something is annoying in combat
nimble fiber
placid fiber
what lovely perks
visual blade
<a:stickfreestyle:1226226008315662350>
are you the zealot that joined a refinery delta-17 auric mission only to stay alone for most of your time only to get swarmed and leave?
that or it's another asraval
fleet zealot
that or it's another asraval
Once again proving we needed that no witch hunting rule xd
nimble fiber
also I think last time I played that map was a few weeks ago
visual blade
it's genuinely bad map
visual blade
i wasn't even gonna say anything bad besides to stay with team, not even in a bad way
because i also do it a lot and it most of the time ends with me getting downed
nimble fiber
because i also do it a lot and it most of the time ends with me getting downed
nah its alright, I get that, teamplay is important 
visual blade
it was an easy mission, even with a psyker who later joined with an infernus recon lasgun
fleet zealot
Does anyone have the mk3 knife vs crusher
nimble fiber
this is the way
lusty turtle
fleet zealot
Emperor
Ferrets are so graceful
Ill just wait till i see exhillious total chad has all the videos saved
fleet zealot
https://tenor.com/view/failure-boo-simpsons-zero-gif-17012756229140509599
Gears turning
placid fiber
Looks like live footage of me, whenever my brain cell tries to think
fleet zealot
I love it, it tries to calculate the jump but its fucking stupid
Good thing ferrets havent figured out running jumps yet
crisp furnace
Had a zealot in the last lobby who bound tag to m1
placid fiber
I love it, it tries to calculate the jump but its fucking stupid
sounds just like me xD
fleet zealot
Had a zealot in the last lobby who bound tag to m1
Death
crisp furnace
Vote kicked
placid fiber
At least have the decency to bind it to the scroll wheel...
fleet zealot
placid fiber
Like that's just sad when you gotta do the m1
placid fiber
By fire!
fleet zealot
Vtuber jumpscare
This is the equivalent of blasting gunshots above your neighborhood to keep the property value down
placid fiber
A fucking knife?!
crisp furnace
Bleed on non weak spot and stacks to weak spot
placid fiber
Jesus
placid fiber
I mean at the very least the nice thing you could say was: At least they were tagging enemies...
If that's any consolation
crisp furnace
Immediately kicked and blocked, shame there’s no friendly fire
opal wadi
fleet zealot
Is shock & awe still broken?
By what measure do you mean broken?
It simply isn’t worth running, gives no meaningful stagger breakpoints so thrust+ ht or slaught is always going to be the best
spare dome
shock and awe should fukken
be some gigabuff on the activated
that makes the thing you hit goddamn EXPLOOOOD
and any enemies nearby are so shocked that their pants fall down
frosty herald
Fishe
desert fractal
fleet zealot
saw someone with crit bloodletter chaxe
bronze linden
Is it just me or is the Eviscerator not an amour-carver?
I find it more useful for crowd slaying…
ashen pecan
evis 15 will kill armor eventually
fleet zealot
Is it just me or is the Eviscerator not an amour-carver?
it is
just need to hit a weakspot with a rev'd hit
it isn't good vs masses of armor, since it leaves itself vulnerable to retalitation
ashen pecan
perfect strike that shit all day
fleet zealot
unlike say mk4 chaxe which can just light spam into armor and be safe
bronze linden
Ah I see…
What perks and blessings should I run with XV Eviscerator?
I would assume Carapce/Unyielding if I want to max out weakpoint hits on big targets…
fleet zealot
Ah I see…
What perks and blessings should I run with XV Eviscerator?
I would ass...
mk15 you want rampage, and if you want to consistently deal with big targets, you want bloodthirsty on top of it
BT lets you guarantee chain crusher kills
slow stag
is the mk9 HS still considered the best variant?
fleet zealot
is the mk9 HS still considered the best variant?
no, all the variants are basically just moveset preference now
torpid palm
Not sure what I'm doing wrong in trying to melee only
Trying to not rely on second wind
fleet zealot
Not sure what I'm doing wrong in trying to melee only
Stop shooting at the ground
slow stag
ah well im trying to pick between, what do you guys think haha
torpid palm
Stop shooting at the ground
i just want to utilize suppression and have 0 ranged kills
torpid palm
Hold F, aim at enemy
isn't chastice only to be used when you're low on toughness?
fleet zealot
Continuing on heavy sword (internet is going out and power went out)
ornate bone
ah well im trying to pick between, what do you guys think haha
right
who need defence anyway
fleet zealot
Ok one at a time please im pissed at my roommates
fleet zealot
isn't chastice only to be used when you're low on toughness?
Are you running martyrdom? Even then no
You are immune to most ranged fire when charging and have 2 charges
It even targets enemy to lock onto with crosshair
You can hold the ability to see the target effect but you only need to tap to activate it in real gameplay
frosty herald
Not sure what I'm doing wrong in trying to melee only
I have in detail
misty nova
isn't chastice only to be used when you're low on toughness?
It's a versatile tool good for everything kinda thing
fleet zealot
i just want to utilize suppression and have 0 ranged kills
If you want 0 ranged kills dont even bother with suppression
frosty herald
Told you to run diagonally
fleet zealot
ah well im trying to pick between, what do you guys think haha
right is technically better but left is the only one you can swap rampage for deathblow
it's not even running diagonally
torpid palm
Told you to run diagonally
that only works in open rooms and not narrow corridors
fleet zealot
literally just charge in
fury of the faithful has like 2x range if you are locked on an enemy
frosty herald
Run towards shooters and dodge when they are flashing
misty nova
It's a versatile tool good for everything kinda thing
Bulwarks have been buffed so you can't open them by tackling the squishy part, sad
fleet zealot
or just fury of the faithful it's like you are creating problems because you want to use suppression but also get 0 ranged kills
that is literally impossible
because suppression scales the closer your bullets are
and you arte just spraying in the ground infront of you they don't give no shits
torpid palm
the hard part is when you are in melee combat already but are getting shot by ranged
fleet zealot
the hard part is when you are in melee combat already but are getting shot by ra...
we've been over this before too
use the melee enemies as meatshield, dodge on audio que for the shooter types, and find cover if it's a gunner/reaper
you are literally working backwards to idk, find this secret meta you have in your head when we've solved this last year
torpid palm
use the melee enemies as meatshield, dodge on audio que for the shooter types, a...
what's the audio cue for shooter types? it isn't the same as backstab noise is it?
fleet zealot
what's the audio cue for shooter types? it isn't the same as backstab noise is i...
it's not the same as backstab but every shooter does it right before they fire
and dodging will break their aim
like, just watch
any auric damn zealot gameplay
and you'll see how they play around ranged enemies
torpid palm
it's not the same as backstab but every shooter does it right before they fire
it only plays for the first time they shoot afaik
fleet zealot
it only plays for the first time they shoot afaik
it works for all shooters, gunners/reapers it doesn't since they continously fire and will pivot to you
and frankly
spare dome
cool
torpid palm
it works for all shooters, gunners/reapers it doesn't since they continously fir...
err wait, it doesn't play when you have 0 toughness I mean
err it just randomly doesn't play actually
fleet zealot
it's just frustrating trying to explain it to you over and over just for you to show up 3 days later saying you are still trying to do this weird 0 ranged kills but also suppressing strat
fleet zealot
err wait, it doesn't play when you have 0 toughness I mean
no, if you are at 0 toughness you are "broken" and have a bit of muffled audio
you are also more vulnerable to damage and any damage will stagger you
fleet zealot
and you shouldn't be at 0 toughness as zealot anyways as long as there is melee enemies and fury of the faithful charges up
royal vortex
for like fuckin ever i thought there were 3
fleet zealot
it took me so long to realize there's 4 chasm terminus maps
where is the twins mission
royal vortex
in our hearts
fleet zealot
basically put, if your toughness is at 0, you have bigger problems
what are your curious, usually 2 gunner resist perks and a lot of toughness is pref'd for zealot
spare dome
it took me so long to realize there's 4 chasm terminus maps
the evidence is right before us but i sitll dont believe it
fleet zealot
Wdym
royal vortex
dreyko and riser are fused together into 1 gigantic map i do not want to play
fleet zealot
There is 4 chasm terminus maps
spare dome
it'll be a cold day in hell before i recognize ascension riser
also can we talk about how ascension riser is just
the word up twice
totally redundant
royal vortex
perfect for 40k
(about the only good thing about that map)
cannot believe it got added after release
warm plover
What's wrong with it?
royal vortex
both events are just terrible
fleet zealot
I like ascension riser
spare dome
my only complaint is the train car section tbh
fleet zealot
The fuckin
royal vortex
a lot of it is mostly linear poorly lit corridors with not a whole lot actually going on
royal vortex
chasm logistratum has an end event that doesn't make me wonder why i still play this game
fleet zealot
The massive lack of medicae (one partial machine) between the mid event and finale makes me wanna vomit
distant lagoon
There was some update?
fleet zealot
And the long ass gaps between respawn points
open pollen
totally redundant
This is the Ascension Riser. It Rises Ascension.
fleet zealot
So if your teammates suck ass, the map sucks even more
distant lagoon
The massive lack of medicae (one partial machine) between the mid event and fina...
Your massive lack of skill makes me vomit
open pollen
There was some update?
Hotfixed a ton of bugs
royal vortex
riser has literally nothing of note in either event which is impressive
normally maps have like 1 shitty event 1 good one
fleet zealot
~~Your massive lack of skill makes me vomit~~
distant lagoon
Remind me, what is up with with evis
fleet zealot
To the ear ripper with you
distant lagoon
Are they both good?
spare dome
yes
fleet zealot
(This is actually a sign of love from ferrets)
(You are precious to them so they want to stash you to keep you safe)
lean lark
is the mk9 HS still considered the best variant?
mk6 is , and the best hsword build is
headtaker4 deathstrike4 (i forgot the name but its +weakspot dmg and infinite cleave) with flakelites/maniacflak
distant lagoon
whatblessing to take?
fleet zealot
(But ferrets are incredibly stupid and dont understand how concepts such as “size” works)
misty nova
Are they both good?
Do you want to juggle the horde? Mk2
Do you want to kill everything one by one? Mk15
fleet zealot
Also explanation
misty nova
So yeah, they both are
distant lagoon
Goddamn, hadron's screen for a moment showed "no items" and my heart skipped a beat
spare dome
yea that happens sometimes
distant lagoon
Did you like executioner sword from vt2?
Actually iddi not like it, but i like mk15
spare dome
i assume its because ive never deleted anything so the load i put on the servers is gradually becoming untenable
every time i switch my curios from CDR to Toughness i cause eight different matches to crash
distant lagoon
So it is all on you
misty nova
Actually iddi not like it, but i like mk15
I played the 15 and now I can't go back to the 2
open pollen
cool
People were sour about the maps sharing sections, but I've come to believe this was a damn fine decision, and I am filled with childlike glee when I spot one map from another. Real Dark Souls vibes from that.
torpid palm
use the melee enemies as meatshield, dodge on audio que for the shooter types, a...
Doesn't work using melee enemies as meat shields because I knock them over
royal vortex
People were sour about the maps sharing sections, but I've come to believe this ...
i managed to predict where mercantile and warren would intersect
ive never felt smarter
torpid palm
also you can't continuously dodge+slide the shooters because you run out of dodges easily
open pollen
Interconnected map design is
https://tenor.com/view/chefs-kiss-french-chef-perfect-dish-excellent-food-perfection-gif-20341505
spare dome
dats why u sprint slide
slow stag
mk6 heavysword? thats a surprise
misty nova
People were sour about the maps sharing sections, but I've come to believe this ...
My favorite part of the Torrent is the elevator
spare dome
People were sour about the maps sharing sections, but I've come to believe this ...
I mean yeah they did an excellent job with making the spaces impressive, and just changing map directions changes the gameplay flow. You might be in the same space, but you are approaching it very differently.
Plus like damn, that's a smart move for saving cash.
open pollen
You know what'd be real Next Gen Darktide map design? Going from one sector to another. Like, you start at the top of the Torrent and end up in Throneside. Or you start in Chasm and take a train to the Carnival.
OR! Throneside spire climb into hourglass.
spare dome
what funny is that if we slapped together those map tiles
onto a hypothetical map of tertium
these zones would be dozens of kilometers apart
i kinda dont want them connected lul
open pollen
Probably. Hence why we'd have to like, start at the edge of one. Or take a train.
spare dome
the city is massive in a way the brain cant really comprehend
royal vortex
the zones we play in also aren't like directly contiguous
open pollen
You think they have vertical equivalent to trains? Trainevators?
royal vortex
getting from point a to point b in a hive takes a good long while
open pollen
Right, but a fast one of those. Could be cool mid event
spare dome
i dont know shit about warhammer lore but my logical brain can look at the spaces in DarkTide
and i recognize that for the vast majority of people
you are maybe going to live your life
in two separate hab zones
and one manufactory plant
constituting perhaps .00001% of the hivecity you occupy
which is a drop in the galaxy
clear knot
so like
spare dome
the same way people irl live their whole life in one sleepy town and go to 'the big city', but the big city is cleveland
open pollen
Aye, but don't we already lose a little of that by having multiple missions take place in the same area?
spare dome
i find it's the opposite. the spaces feel larger because they're connected
there's so much expanse out there in every area and we see only so much of it
clear knot
think of star wars' coruscant lower levels and so on. how deep and vast they were. warhammers that but. unironically X 1million
nimble fiber
spare dome
and shit the extra work of putting together all those unique skyboxes, fuck that
like Hourglass is hands down the coolest one to me
you're standing on the absolute edge of a tower, tens of kilometers up. there's still a few more kilometers of this structure above you.
and in the far distance, barely filtering through the atmosphere, are more towers like yours
and those are not separate hive cities
theyre just other towers, part of tertium
all stacked into one giant pile of shit
clear knot
yah. not to mention theres another hive city on atoma
spare dome
cocks gun say that again
clear knot
its alluded to in voice lines
classififed dont talk about that typea stuff
but it deffo exists
distant lagoon
hand-canon + surgical still the best for revolver?
open pollen
Then connecting two sectors could be a way to illustrate that. For example, when you look up in the Torrent or Throneside, you can see spires and buildings/structures on the ceiling. Imagine starting in one of those, dangling above an unfathomable abyss, and ascending via somekind of high-speed riser into a different section where now you're on the ground floor looking up at unfathomably tall buildings.
distant lagoon
come on, do you seriously justify devs being lazy with map designs...
spare dome
i mean if they could actually pull off the space, then i wouldnt mind it
open pollen
come on, do you seriously justify devs being lazy with map designs...
You calling Dark Souls lazy?
distant lagoon
Because that is what it is, they simply reuse same assets
spare dome
its like when you looked at The Citadel for the first time
in HL2
takes a fukken eternity to climb that thing
but it feels contigous
my issue with the idea in DT is that im pretty sure it would jsut be
enter elevator
space encloses
hidden loading screen
new zone
the actual sense of scale would just evaporate, it would just be 'a different place'
cause the map zones are enormous
and i doubt they can hold the assets of two zones simultaneously
fleet zealot
So, like instead of missions, we drop on a map and free roam to finish as many missions as we can
spare dome
but i would love if you could, say
go up to the ceiling buildings in throneside
and look down and see the bridge from above
that seems totally doable, in a sense
distant lagoon
hand-canon + surgical still the best for revolver?
spare dome
idk whats going on with point blank these days
so yea probably the best
surgical without a doubt, anyway
royal vortex
idk whats going on with point blank these days
gone the way of take a swing
spare dome
it used to work so idk if the buff is just missing
or it broke
but i fukken doubt they intend to have it only work on the pistol whip
open pollen
that seems totally doable, in a sense
I am assuming FS employs some mixture of skyboxes and LOD or nanite technology. Or really good flat textures. Besides, this isn't as much an argument of "IF" they can do it, but should they do it.
I think starting in a throneside ceiling spire-lagtite and spending the entire map ascending, only to have the finale area be the bottom of another sector, to show that even after all the climbing you've only just barely crossed a border between zones would be a damn fine idea that could only further highlight the extreme scale of hive cities.
spare dome
maybe one of the future zones will be bridged like that
open pollen
An acceptable compromise
sterile stone
Need more desert maps
open pollen
II mean, SOMETHING has to be above throneside.
spare dome
cause ya my understanding is that the hourglass and the torrent are vertically separated by roughly 100kms
and neither are the top nor bottom
open pollen
Would be a really good way to "Introduce" a new sector. Like "here's a taste, to get you excited"
sterile stone
II mean, SOMETHING has to be above throneside.
It’s been said
Through like mission intro chatter
Throne side is like a upper middle class area
spare dome
ya throneside aint the top
open pollen
So somekind of lower upper class area?
wind bluff
Think this is an okay HS?
nimble fiber
Need more desert maps
fr
sterile stone
Throne side is best described like
nimble fiber
gimme more dune vibes
sterile stone
Imagine a gated community
open pollen
The torrent
That'd be pretty funny. "Turns out the Atoma Elite love living in filth. No wonder a nurgle cult formed".
sterile stone
And the average home owner drives a Tesla
spare dome
the mcmansions of the imperium
deft bobcat
how am i supposed to build this? pretty new to the stealth knife zealot thingy
spare dome
how am i supposed to build this? pretty new to the stealth knife zealot thingy
uncanny for lacerate, flak for unarmored
sterile stone
I think the area above throneside is where the nobles lives
spare dome
congrats youre done
sterile stone
Just an assumption tho
deft bobcat
uncanny for lacerate, flak for unarmored
got it!
open pollen
the mcmansions of the imperium
Then if that's throneside, this would also give an opportunity for a very visually distinct sector. A nobles quarter could look radically different. It would further highlight the shock of traveling between sectors.
Like, "Oh, you thought THRONESIDE was fancy? Here's the BOTTOM of SPIRESIDE"
sterile stone
I mean LC comments on the change of scenery
“Cleanish air, clean streets, must be moving up in the world”
open pollen
Imagine climbing a spire and ending up in like, somekind of forest/garden area where nobles hunt imported game or something.
distant lagoon
god i hate knife zealots
muted girder
Hi Varlets, anyone willing to help out wift brain burst penance ?
sterile stone
I wouldn’t be surprised if at one point we get a new mission type that’s like
open pollen
Or better yet. Atoman Golf Course.
sterile stone
An escort/rescue mission
ripe quest
Not sure what I'm doing wrong in trying to melee only
talentless. Psyk has a bad environment for this since normally the natural funneling causes high cleave weapons to do a happy little dance.
spare dome
"what is ... oh my god this is all so beautiful. so many greens. and docile creatures unknown to mine ARRRRGH"
-gored by a fucken space moose-
sterile stone
talentless. Psyk has a bad environment for this since normally the natural funne...
Mans really fighting with a trowel
open pollen
An escort/rescue mission
I'm still holding out hope we get to escort a Leman Russ.
median steeple
Mans really fighting with a trowel
crazy dave finally had enough of those zombies
sterile stone
I am noticing a pattern tho
ripe quest
Mans really fighting with a trowel
Weapon customization mod has decided to randomize anything and everything I touch, I've wiped the settings, tweaked the settings, reinstalled it, just a whole lot of fuckery.
sterile stone
The quality of the cosmetics we get improve as the areas we visit improve
So those two could be working in tandem
Or I’m just reaching
Either or
median steeple
Weapon customization mod has decided to randomize anything and everything I touc...
have you tried uninstalling and verifying game files
might be the only way
unless you like being stuck in a randomizer challenge
ripe quest
have you tried uninstalling and verifying game files
If I do that my config implodes.
I cannot do that since it's already built upon 4 twigs.
solar gorge
the roblox config's balance is delicate
median steeple
I think you might need to take the nuclear option and uninstall the game and wipe everything but idk
ripe quest
yeah I had to Frankenstein Arco's config into my own just to get the game to open
open pollen
"what is ... oh my god this is all so beautiful. so many greens. and docile crea...
Meanwhile, a thousand floors up. "Look down there Archibald, some throneside plebians are hunting space moose face-to-face. What savages! Bring me my plasma longrifle... no, not that one, the diamond encrusted one yes."
median steeple
this is your files right here
ripe quest
I can't do that to my little creation
sterile stone
Man said anything for 300 fps
median steeple
it really is like the novel
the files are the victim and you're the evil doctor
spare dome
exhils config is the paradise lost of executables
open pollen
This is me at work
spare dome
only the author truly knows the original intent
ripe quest
median steeple
my darktide pleads I verify every time I open it
sterile stone
exhils config is the paradise lost of executables
I haven’t heard that term in a while
open pollen
I am an energy-drink operated programmer. You'll insert something with Taurine in it into my mouth-hole if you want any code to be done.
ripe quest
exhils config is the paradise lost of executables
11k lines of code rest in my config and I will not feed them.
bronze linden
Ok time to stop with the Evis, probably need a Chainaxe :p
median steeple
im still fucking heated over this IH I got
open pollen
If we're getting an elite gunner captain, do you think we'll get like, an elite rager warlord or something?
median steeple
ragers but with super rare refractor fields
open pollen
ragers but with super rare refractor fields
Ragers going shield akimbo and just bashin' us to death.
bronze linden
The Mourningstar Chatter is making me think we are getting Genestealer cult enemies…
open pollen
ragers but with super rare refractor fields
OH DAMN, that'd be even scarier.
median steeple
yeah I meant that at first since I forgot the name
but not like they're super rare in darktide anyway since every goon captain has one
open pollen
I mean, both could work. Could you imagine a "Refractor Shield" condition? Like nurgles blessing, but random elites get refractor shields.
sterile stone
Nah I got a better one
sterile stone
Random enemies burst into pox clouds
open pollen
oh? do tell.
bronze linden
Got lucky with Brunt lottery
open pollen
Damn that is better.
Gassy laddies
I am a bit dissappointed with the lack of really fat enemies. (Ogryns don't count, they're just big boned.)
VT2 made me think nurgle's cult was like, full of fatties. But the rejects are callin' bursters fat. Like nah, gimmie the real chonkers!
sterile stone
You’d think a bunch of rotting corpses would be bloated
open pollen
I know, right!?
sterile stone
But I guess making almost every other enemy a mini pox burster
Would ruin people’s fun
open pollen
Maybe only nurgle spellcasters and noblefolk get that nurgle heft.
sterile stone
I’m still trying to figure out what the hell a mutant is
Is it a dwarf ogryn
Or a really juiced human
fleet zealot
Really juiced dreg human
sterile stone
Makes more sense
fleet zealot
Too short and thin on the nonmutated parts
open pollen
I was assuming it was a regular mutant that was THEN juiced. The Imperium has a real prejudice against mutation, so I imagine they would seek sanctuary with the nurgle cult.
fleet zealot
To be ogryn
open pollen
Yes please! Let that warp flow.
sterile stone
The team psyker randomly gets bb’d across the map by some balding cultist who hasn’t showered in months
open pollen
Oh man, enemy brain burster would be one high priority target.
open pollen
a Psnyper
nimble fiber
frosty herald
we need chaos psykers
hushed knoll
u had the munchies cowboy ferret?<:sassy:574206278335725569>
Hello
nimble fiber
hi stan
grave nebula
What is stat priority for Crusher?
and what about Bolter?
doing CtW/BP crit build with crusher and bolter
acoustic dune
I just mag dump a bolter into a crusher
And hope it dies
If not I always have the trusty knife
God I wish I could make the zealot faster
spare dome
faster you say
nimble fiber
What is stat priority for Crusher?
stat priority as in whats the dumb stat/perks & blessings?
north sedge
Mobility is always the dump
sterile stone
He lacks the carpal to wield a knife properly
acoustic dune
I barely catch up with a mutant with the build I run
spare dome
you can kit out so that even with a thammer you are faster than any other class in the game even when they use a knife
the only speedier character is psyker but thats only when all their bonuses align
acoustic dune
you can kit out so that even with a thammer you are faster than any other class ...
I don't like to run dash
Like the funny book
Or relic
Stagg3r me enemy and help the team out
acoustic dune
its pure movespeed
Ah
I run both speed passive perk for zealot
The unstagger and %10 more move speed one
left iron
Damn empire gets some funny ranged heroes now in TWWH3
acoustic dune
Damn empire gets some funny ranged heroes now in TWWH3
Necron is that you?
grave nebula
stat priority as in whats the dumb stat/perks & blessings?
I know my perks and blessings for my build, by stat priority I mean what stats should I want as close to 80% as I can?
spare dome
yea thats as fast as you get
acoustic dune
Damn
nimble fiber
I know my perks and blessings for my build, by stat priority I mean what stats s...
everything besides defences
acoustic dune
But I wanna feel faster be faster
grave nebula
I lack defences and power output on my crusher, otherwise it got high 70's
left iron
Damn empire gets some funny ranged heroes now in TWWH3
This is a guy on horseback, shooting a rifle
nimble fiber
power output can be alright as dumb if it isn't 2 low
acoustic dune
My built is a pure crit built
grave nebula
what about stat prio for Bolter?
acoustic dune
And speed
grave nebula
power output can be alright as dumb if it isn't 2 low
I got 57 on defence and 38% on power output 💀
acoustic dune
Literally a glass canon
With like a safe guard on it
Can't not run until death
Or idk what it's called
The funny zero health thing
nimble fiber
beans
median steeple
Damn empire gets some funny ranged heroes now in TWWH3
engineers go hard
also robo horse
median steeple
have you tried the master engi yet
nimble fiber
More like fuel to the fireplace
vast radish
I respect the Crusher.
It's a weapon you actually gotta think with when using
Forces me to really try and properly put out and swap between combos
vast radish
Can the crusher even be used for crit spam? Always figured that was relegated to the eviscerators and knives
cursive cloak
Anything can be used for crit spam
hushed agate
Does flamer benefit from crits at all? I assume yes but knowing this game i need to double check
cursive cloak
I might not kill everything with a crusher, but nothing I'm hitting will be able to hit me
fleet zealot
Can the crusher even be used for crit spam? Always figured that was relegated to...
Anything can be used for crit spam
fleet zealot
Does flamer benefit from crits at all? I assume yes but knowing this game i need...
No
clear knot
keep or no
vast radish
That's a tragedy right there.
hushed agate
Keep
fleet zealot
Well good thing i double checked. This game is so stupid
What’s stupid is i had people argue for crit on flamer before
For some reason
clear knot
i wanted ds ff
cursive cloak
I hate braced autoguns that aren't grip, but this is usable
hushed agate
What’s stupid is i had people argue for crit on flamer before
Why no crits?
I think its perfectly fine
fleet zealot
Because it does nothing for flamer
cursive cloak
Yellow numbers are cool?
fleet zealot
Whose damage is all on the burn stat
fleet zealot
Make crits affect burn
I mean they do work for purge staff, a crit applies +1 blaze stack than normal but… even as a perk it is shit. You get enough crit from warp nexus and talent tree to basically always keep your on crit talents stacked up
Like empathic evasion and warp damage
Even if crit effected burn the perks themselves are too shit to consider on all but the most specific of weapon builds
fleet zealot
Dink my oiter
grave nebula
Forces me to really try and properly put out and swap between combos
that's why I love it, you have to do some comboing on it... I wish the damage was switched between the two eviscerators... or at least the moveset swapped, I hate how MkXV has such a basic bitch moveset... so boring
and that the shove attack is a weird stab
vast radish
I admittedly am drawn to simpler weapons because it means I can better focus on positioning and priority management
grave nebula
Because it does nothing for flamer
is that why flamer is kinda meh for Zealot? cause crits are useless for it...
grave nebula
I admittedly am drawn to simpler weapons because it means I can better focus on ...
I mean I get that, but it's just soooo boring
fleet zealot
Flamer is great on zealot
vast radish
So the evisc I prefer having a simple 1-2 sideways cleave for hordes and a solid strike down for anything harder is nice
fleet zealot
It just forces you to use throwing knife for longe range enemies
grave nebula
I admittedly am drawn to simpler weapons because it means I can better focus on ...
positioning and everything else becomes too easy lol... and I can't get all my fun coming from that, I like the hectic stuff
grave nebula
Flamer is great on zealot
is it?
grave nebula
It just forces you to use throwing knife for longe range enemies
oh yeah
fleet zealot
Flamer+ fury of the faithful is some of the best elite clear in the game
Like, competing with juiced plasma gun vet
Good
grave nebula
So the evisc I prefer having a simple 1-2 sideways cleave for hordes and a solid...
yeah I get what you mean.
for me it's just incredibly boring, mindnumbing stuff
vast radish
I'm not good at positioning so I kinda need my weapons to be easier to understand. It's why Im trying the crusher. (That and my crusher got optimal blessings first try)
fleet zealot
But not everyone likes to go throwing knife-> fury of the faithful
vast radish
I wanna try and improve and the crusher can help there
Thankfully I have an ok start since I'm used to the iron helm
fleet zealot
also, some people dont know, but for trash horde clear, you only need short bursts of flame, helps a ton with ammo economy
vast radish
And those have similar combo setups of alternating lights and heavies
wind bluff
So, been playing with heavy Sword. Love how versatile it is.
Funny how the simpler weapons feel smoother to use.
grave nebula
I plan to put toughness and hp on my trinkets, but don't really need cooldown reduction on it, since it's a zealot crit build + I got boltgun that shreds everything anyways, What would be a good 3rd perk on curios?
placid fiber
what you mainly want is gunner resist, hp, and toughness
with 1 curio having sniper resist
Full gunner resist does wonders
grave nebula
toughness regen speed?
placid fiber
toughness regen speed is just coherency regen lol
grave nebula
with 1 curio having sniper resist
hmmm why 1? to prevent oneshots
placid fiber
To give you a little more leeway with snipers
you can get hit 2 times, iirc, with 1 sniper resist
and still be alive
from full hp that is
cursive cloak
Further sniper resists are multiplicative
placid fiber
You can always do more sniper resist, if you want
Just you gotta sacrifice something to get it
grave nebula
I feel like gunners are way more of a problem... gunners include scab shotgunners and the likes, right?
cursive cloak
No
placid fiber
Scab shotgunners don't have a resist x.x
grave nebula
what...
grave nebula
scab shotgunners are like the biggest bane of all of Zealotkind
grave nebula
Not anymore, they were nerfed heavily lol
the most recent big patch? seem like they still fucked me up if there's a bunch
grave nebula
It's elite gunners and reapers
oh so it's not even automatic gun fire in general... it's just spesific enemies
placid fiber
That's why you dodge...?
grave nebula
reapers and then those scabs with gatling guns or whatever?
placid fiber
scab and dreg gunners(elites)
and reapers
The ones that go dakka dakka dakka dakka dakka
fleet zealot
Most efficient curio perks 3x tough, 3x hp, 1 gunner, 1 sniper, and one generic corruption
placid fiber
<.<'
grave nebula
scab and dreg gunners(elites)
oooh yeah I got them mixed up, yeah FUCK THOSE GUYS as well
fleet zealot
No diminishing returns
grave nebula
and reapers
I don't think I have ever died or recieved serious damage from reapers, but the other gunners are such a pain
cursive cloak
Pretty effective
I'd trade a toughness or health out for stamina regen as well
I personally also use one toughness regen
grave nebula
Most efficient curio perks 3x tough, 3x hp, 1 gunner, 1 sniper, and one generic ...
oh yeah, didn't even realise the corruption thingy
cursive cloak
Yeah it's only toughness regen in coherence, but it makes a big difference at range when they're taking pot shots at you
south folio
ordo dockets ordo dockets ordo dockets ordo dockets ordo dockets
fleet zealot
Generic corruption resist is underrated
It works for all sources of corruption
Toughness regen isn’t too good
Might as well all in with 90%
placid fiber
It works for all sources of corruption
Even on me...?
south folio
i wouldn't take stamina regen on zealot just cuz zealot has the fastest regen rate already and you especially don't need stamina now that ragers got shot in the kneecaps
placid fiber
grave nebula
Most efficient curio perks 3x tough, 3x hp, 1 gunner, 1 sniper, and one generic ...
I'll probably go with this one, thanks :)
stamina regen could be one, but don't find myself lacking it on zealot rn
fleet zealot
Stam is just
Not as important as vt2
I still see boomers stam maxing but
It is ass and they always do low damage
placid fiber
The only character I've really seriously taken stamina on is the psyker and that's with the dueling sword :/
fleet zealot
A single plus 3 helps with that but it isnt even needed
placid fiber
It's more for comfort
placid fiber
emotional comfort <.<
south folio
especially on psyker you have the fastest regen delay and kinetic deflection
and there is really only one enemy for which you need full-strength pushes
and that's maulers
spare dome
kd is basically an ogryn stamina bar for blocking
fleet zealot
There is no need to spam shoves unless your weapon has a good push attack
Even then, you dont need the stam
It just makes things comfier
south folio
trash enemies get staggered by low-stamina pushes and the other elites either can't be staggered by a push or it's probabilistic whether they're not in an attack state where they gain stagger resistance
vast radish
And I need comfort to make up for me panicking and sucking at resource management
placid fiber
It just makes things comfier
Like I said, emotional comfort lol
fleet zealot
Yea i have a push attack weapon (mk4 chaxe)
placid fiber
and the bonus stamina does make kinetic deflection more effective...
as a side bonus
slow stag
hows this marty build look? any changes you guys think ?
placid fiber
pretty solid
placid fiber
That's pretty close to my marty build
fleet zealot
hows this marty build look? any changes you guys think ?
Id dump the middle 2 below immo grenades
And put them in for unyielding damage
placid fiber
I branch out for an additional toughness* rather than taking duellist and the damage reduction aoe thing
mystic saddle
Reached like 300 on my zealot and decided to try psyker and holy shit maccabian sword is like better than every zealot melee weapon
fleet zealot
i personally might branch out to the crit regen perk but its not necessary
No point with martyrdom
Piety is better at that point
jagged aspen
i never said i knew what i was talking about 
placid fiber
And put them in for unyielding damage
That's what I do, and I take 1 more 15 toughness node for my own personal reasons instead of duellist >.>
Having 170 some toughness on martyrdom feels amazing
at least I think that's how much it is... like 172
I'll check rq
slow stag
that build okay to run a heavy sword with ?
placid fiber
Yeah
Heavy sword can run with Martyrdom, blazing piety, or inexorable judgement(momentum)
It can run with Shroudfield, Chastise, or Chorus
placid fiber
I run 2 wound curios and 1 toughness curio on my martyrdom build
I run 3 gunner resist, 3 toughness, 2 health, 1 sniper resist
slow stag
isnt there diminishing returns on each resist?
since its added multiplcative instead of additive
placid fiber
Yeah, but, full gunner resist does a lot
slow stag
il give it a shot i can always swap it
fleet zealot
Yee
placid fiber
Being able to tank some gunners is nice, but, you can always choose other things
fleet zealot
You dont need to really worry about diminishing returns for resists
Unless you stack 3x gunner
slow stag
i just remember a while back people wer etelling me not to run triple gunner but that was like maybe a year ago haha
fleet zealot
Usually better to go 2x gunner and 1x sniper
slow stag
so its better to go with 2 wounds 1 toughness?
placid fiber
Full gunner resist might have diminishing returns but it helps a lot
slow stag
i kinda like that one but the extra wound is nice isnt it?
fleet zealot
Wounds are bad unless you are martyrdom
placid fiber
I mean a 3rd wound curio adds a little bit of stats you can get
placid fiber
Wounds are bad unless you are martyrdom
they are doing marty
but I find 1 toughness curio to do much more than a 3rd wound curio
fleet zealot
3 wounds best, makes each wound a smaller % of hp
Just get 15% toughness from the perks
placid fiber
These are my stats as far as toughnes goes
I kind of have revive speed on one of my curios right now instead of hp <.<'
oh wait it's instead of toughness lol
but I have another curio that has 5% toughness so I can show what toughness I normally have
Eh... it is possible to kill a crusher with a combat stim and chastise... with the autopistol...
slow stag
i kinda asked this earlier in a void but which HS would work better with marty build i can always swap left sword rampage for tier 4 deathblow
usnure how critical deathblow is to the build itself
placid fiber
Eh... it is possible to kill a crusher with a combat stim and chastise... with t...
It's still not worth it
north sedge
Either sword works, but deathblow edges out rampage a bit since db is just brutal momentum but for sword
placid fiber
I'm a firm believer in the 6
I have a good 9, tho...
And that's just on my 2nd zealot
placid fiber
It's still not worth it
Oh and I by no means recommend using the autopistol like I do on the 1 build I use it on
Even with 25% maniac it still takes several shots to kill dreg ragers
fleet zealot
usnure how critical deathblow is to the build itself
Deathblow lets you oneshot 4 elites in one swing
placid fiber
Yeah it lets you do some really stupid stuff lol
ripe quest
Eh... it is possible to kill a crusher with a combat stim and chastise... with t...
painfully poor output
with that kind of daka you can setup a scoreboard sweep w/ a Boltgun or Flamer.
placid fiber
painfully poor output
Which is exactly why I do the opposite of recommending it, lol
I legit only have use for it on 1 build and 1 build only
which is a martyrdom build... and my melee can kill literally everything pretty much lol
It does fill the role I have it for quite well, tho, lol
fleet zealot
Itzumi
maiden path
chat
maiden path
https://tenor.com/view/falin-touden-falin-touden-dungeon-meshi-zima%27s-falin-gi...
get the anime boobies out of ma fucking face
and get some nurgle boobies in mine
fleet zealot
and get some nurgle boobies in mine
No!
maiden path
woah mama
maiden path
a troupe of freaks
fleet zealot
a troupe of freaks
Nope! A business
maiden path
Nope! A business
freedom fighter to some, terrorist to other
misty mason
It is too early to start asking where the crafting update update is
But where is the crafting update update
maiden path
It is too early to start asking where the crafting update update is
But where i...
considering the last update was just a rehaul to penances and some cosmetics i expect it this month
visual stream
maiden path
it'd be odd to cut off what could be a good chain of needed updates
get alot more people in with rehauls the games needed then start dropping big updates
fleet zealot
It is too early to start asking where the crafting update update is
But where i...
Fatshark says few months from penance update and no later than end of the year
maiden path
like maps and big updates
fleet zealot
So a pretty wide range
maiden path
Fatshark says few months from penance update and no later than end of the year
few months
😭
south folio
It is too early to start asking where the crafting update update is
But where i...
should've been born 2 decades later
maiden path
i say it once again, fatshark is 3 people, 1 person works on darktide and 2 work on vermintide
and they swip swap at random
ripe quest
few months
tis what happens when the community nukes Fatshark over every little negative thing. Gotta make it perfect.
spare dome
thats just gamers for all games tbh
fleet zealot
Tbf i prefer this reality
Over the reality where fatshark said fuck it
And just churns out content
Cause in content timeline they’d still be slow asf partially cause of GW
And we’d be stuck with 1 blessing 1 perk lock
foggy rampart
do you rev the mk4 chainaxe or do you just let lights rip
fleet zealot
do you rev the mk4 chainaxe or do you just let lights rip
Mk4 chaxe lights are for single target where you dont need or can stagger
Do rev’d heavies for single target you also want staggered or mutants
foggy rampart
i see, thx 👍
fleet zealot
And if you use thrust blessing, rev’d heavies are a lot more used over lights
foggy rampart
@fleet zealoti did a ctrl + F of mk4 and found your name in 99% of the messages, you wouldn't have a talent tree for it lying around?
fleet zealot
<@301217938306760704>i did a ctrl + F of mk4 and found your name in 99% of the m...
I would but i am currently on my phone going to a graduation party for my sister
foggy rampart
righto, have fun
fleet zealot
And sorry, you cant really search by image because it is full of ferrets
Maybe sort by image and only in #1158835247685836853 i think i posted a few there, but most of them are martyrdom
Momentum is just as viable on chaxe
maiden path
tis what happens when the community nukes Fatshark over every little negative th...
it took them what
4 months
to rehaul some penances
and add cosmetics
come on mayne!!!!!!
they LAZY
if it wasnt live service i wouldnt mind it as much
fleet zealot
A lot of the penance rehaul was behind the scenes
fleet zealot
The new system is a lot easier to work with
maiden path
took too long!!!!!
fleet zealot
Which means more penances in the future
fleet zealot
Fatshark isn’t triple AAA and they aren’t doing NA crunch
They should rush to fix the shader bug however
maiden path
ok fuck all dat..........
new auric gamemode....
daemonhosts can be woken up by enemies
thoughts
fleet zealot
No
coarse birch
they already can be woken up by snipers
fleet zealot
Have separate unbound daemonhost spawn as a monstro
near frigate
what about strong pick-up weapons that have a little ammo for auric
maiden path
what about strong pick-up weapons that have a little ammo for auric
PLASMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
MELTAGUNNNNNN
AUUUUUUGH
fleet zealot
what about strong pick-up weapons that have a little ammo for auric
Zarona revolver, agri brauto,
maiden path
SNIPER MELTAGUN
sterile stone
The hell is going on in here
fleet zealot
Columnus iag, mk3 headhunter
sterile stone
fleet zealot
Beb is losing it
maiden path
they need to give zealot a meltagun
vet has plasma
zealot a meltagun
and other classes can get something idk...
17% toughness is max for curios right
near frigate
yeah
spare dome
anyone wanna code delve and find me what # = suppressed reaper
gray ice
About tree fidy
royal vortex
anyone wanna code delve and find me what # = suppressed reaper
@coarse birch
worldly lagoon
They should rush to fix the shader bug however
I'm not touching the game again until it's fixed. No fun playing at 5-15 fps.
coarse birch
Uh i can try but im not sure where suppression values live
Although i know the suppression values of certain guns so could figure it out that way
coarse birch
Id believe that, when i get a chance i can check code im just only familiar with weapon code
radiant nacelle
What shaders bug?
nimble fiber
ok devils claw is kinda fun ngl
nimble fiber
lmao
sterile stone
About tree fidy
Whatchu doin round these parts
median steeple
gray ice
Whatchu doin round these parts
Who's askin
sterile stone
Who's askin
Don't worry bout it
median steeple
argus is a fed dont listen to him
gray ice
Last I checked it's not illegal for a waffle color brother to lurk round these parts
sterile stone
Last I checked it's not illegal for a waffle color brother to lurk round these p...
Waffle color
I am
gray ice
You'll need to speak to my lawyer
sterile stone
Befuddled.
sterile stone
You'll need to speak to my lawyer
What kinda shenanigans you on about besides 2 games
gray ice
What kinda shenanigans you on about besides 2 games
shenanigans depends entirely on how i'm feelin and what the shenanigan is
im loading up hunt to play a bit before I do some schoolwork
median steeple
Shut yah mouf
sterile stone
im loading up hunt to play a bit before I do some schoolwork
The hell they got you doing for homework
Cutting a hole in a piece of sheet metal?
gray ice
The hell they got you doing for homework
no foo
in an online class right now, they teach a variety of stuff
sterile stone
Oh word?
gray ice
It's a bachelor's degree crunched down to 18 months, there's gen ed type stuff
gray ice
eh, in a way
you just have to pick up on stuff quickly and be willing to put forth your own free time toward practicing
and not be the type to get super frustrated when you fail cuz you're gonna fuck up a lot and there isn't really a way around it
maiden path
i think its impossible for some people to fucking look behind them
you could be fighting fgor your fucking life against the horde that spawned behind you while all these vets sit with their thumbs up their ass
dont worry guys we have zolasfeetpics to save us
nvm
maiden path
vets skilltree is FUCKED
desert bough
Ulgo hate knife. Switched to axe for sneaky penance. Feeling much better
split ibex
Vet tree is pretty bad yeah. Zealot too. Psyker is annoying how it's laid out, but has many good options
maiden path
Vet tree is pretty bad yeah. Zealot too. Psyker is annoying how it's laid out, b...
zealots is fine
i think
psykers is great
split ibex
Nah
maiden path
i had what i needed and had more leftover
split ibex
Top left, middle center, and bottom middle of zealot all have problems. Some worse than others
maiden path
zealots talent tree is fine ur crazy
split ibex
That's... a novel opinion lmao
south folio
zealot's middle-middle is poopoo and the stagger talents don't matter in this current meta, though a stagger rebalancing would give them some worth
split ibex
Okay, you could chill beer with a take that cold 😁
south folio
there's some problems but i consider zealot's and vet's to be the better ones (i don't play ogryn so just both of them being better than psyker's)
coarse birch
Zealots middle middle tree is so fucking sad
Although i cant talk shit i main psyker and that whole tree is sad
split ibex
Top left has a couple nodes that are iffy, but the grenade is good
south folio
Although i cant talk shit i main psyker and that whole tree is sad
opinion invalidated
maiden path
Although i cant talk shit i main psyker and that whole tree is sad
wrong!
south folio
playing psyker? not in this household, and not something i would condone
psyker's tree is quite bad because the pathing options you have are quite limited by the gimmick of the tree
split ibex
Psyker is excellent, there are just so many ways that it locks you into a specific path if you want a specific ability or blitz
The layout is the only issue
hushed knoll
playing psyker? not in this household, and not something i would condone
Hi laces 
south folio
yeah and that's a good portion of the tree
coarse birch
Yeah psykers tree is short and limited
maiden path
i think u guys just want to be able to do everything with no issues
south folio
there are less ways to go about the tree compared to the other two human classes
how so?
coarse birch
You realistically fill it with 25 points
south folio
i'm just advocating for more pathing permutations
and i'm one of the stronger advocates for nerfing shit to hell
coarse birch
I just want more nodes in general
misty nova
Zealots middle middle tree is so fucking sad
Swap Emperor's Bullet for Unremitting it's a least worth something
coarse birch
If they are gonna lock stuff off
split ibex
That's the nice thing about vet tree. Lots of different options for pathing. It's the nodes themselves that suck
maiden path
vet is fucked
south folio
vet's nodes are p goated
south folio
it's bloated but they moved the bloat into giving you a bunch of options
my only strong gripe are the nodes being primarily concentrated at the lower keystone layer
coarse birch
Vet keystones are also p distinct
maiden path
executioners stance is fucked though
ranged talent but it doesnt highlight some ranged enemies without spending talent points....
south folio
they need to 360 no-scope some nodes and distribute the nodes a bit more for vet
coarse birch
Yeah
maiden path
i use a soulflame headpop for psyker and i nevr have any issues
split ibex
A lot of the add on nodes need to go or get baked in
coarse birch
His tree is a little weighted into certain nodes and then random useless stuff
maiden path
they need to cut down on some grenade nodes
theres like 3 separate ones in different trees
south folio
just moving some grenade nodes into being actual upgrades for the nades
instead of being individual talents
frosty herald
Too many talents that could be bundled together
coarse birch
I honestly wouldnt mind seeing on elite kill shot tho
south folio
seems like they had the design intent of only having grenade upgrades for psyker, but it makes sense to give upgrades for vet nades as well
split ibex
Ah grenadier 😁
maiden path
still think it';d be cool for a 'you can only carry 1 grenade' but you get all the grenade talents in one
south folio
I honestly wouldnt mind seeing on elite kill shot tho
prob being a regen talent for a particular nade