zealot-class

[mystic ore]

Is drive speed the actual bottleneck there?

[coarse birch]

I think that would be cpu

If im not being dumb

[languid rock]

likely cpus yeah

[coarse birch]

Sdd is usually load times etc

[languid rock]

either clock speed or threads depending on how good they wrote it

[coarse birch]

If its full it wont help tho

[languid rock]

even a plate has a write speed of like 80 MB/s minimum

[coarse birch]

Havent used an hdd in a while but yeah new ones arent too bad

Wouldn't put DT on one but

Fine for basic stuff

[languid rock]

you can actually get like 160 read on a good new one, like for mass storage or something

yes ideally your copy of darktide should live on an NVME drive lol

[coarse birch]

Mines on a sata SSD but its not too bad

980 evo

[fleet zealot]

just got this turn one on grimgor

[coarse birch]

970?

I forget the model

[fleet zealot]

it's so it

[languid rock]

i have an extra 1tb nvme sitting in my desk that doesnt fit in the support bracket for my motherboard

i need to grab the tin snips and do some modification

[coarse birch]

I have 2 empty nvme slots on mine

Need to use them

[fleet zealot]

no it's def my HDD

cause it's old

[languid rock]

oh yeah

[fleet zealot]

and it's the first load of the game

[languid rock]

old hdds are called spinning rust for a reason

[coarse birch]

HDD wont help then

[fleet zealot]

literally simulating the entire history of fantasy

so yes, I want an SSD, i already have one but it's tiny asf

[languid rock]

i suggest you but an nvme if you have a slot, otherwise a decent sized ssd and also a big hdd

[coarse birch]

You can get 1tb for not too much these days

[hard lance]

fuck the flesh wound penance

[languid rock]

yeah even nvme you can get a tbh for like $100?

[coarse birch]

Ye

[south folio]

yeah ssds are relatively inexpensive

[coarse birch]

Above that gets pricey

[south folio]

gr8 investment

[languid rock]

oh i gotta go start cooking

the upgrade my pc needs is a PSU lmao

[coarse birch]

I think my 2TB one was shockingly

200

[royal vortex]

just like human skin

[coarse birch]

Im glad i went with headroom on my psu

1000w

[languid rock]

my current one is low efficiency and is a real ankle cooker, plus it doesnt have enough plugs in it to power my graphics card fully lol

[coarse birch]

Oh no

16 pin?

[languid rock]

its got headroom but not much anymore after upgrades

[south folio]

lookin good

[coarse birch]

Damn

Thats real good

Assuming its good speed

[south folio]

:(

[coarse birch]

L

L

[south folio]

https://www.amazon.com/WD_BLACK-SN770-Internal-Gaming-Solid/dp/B09QV5KJHV/ref=sr_1_6?dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.bfbsPWaEs7QU0Kh2EMlnfiGxeZBXy5aOlhkaAI2jqcPxP8hfJPdWqY11ooPZbRivnGiTwnSDDz0-Q-XjXgZU-HO12epH9HNWwog92p9rpXi6t1X6PE5_YkzRfFuV_BwPGiz33ckgpBhR5248rlkQWywOlTzwfwzQI7FVeJpx7e8TQygC9fmboylquJASiGYZyFU2y3-Iyfolak-VR0ooUAXf8Cd1h709CHk4Rv0zkBE.deUrxDQ4IvK3HZ8Zyx7aNIXRxdLeK7KCaJQ-3fmg8FY&dib_tag=se&keywords=2tb%2Bssd&qid=1714521053&sr=8-6&th=1

[languid rock]

i dont remember how many slots it has but it was filled up powering everything before my graphics card started wanting two plugs

[south folio]

uh oh

[languid rock]

i went from a 1080ti to a 3080ti

[coarse birch]

Id def upgrade that then ye

[languid rock]

its got the wattage but not the hardware lol

[coarse birch]

I reccomend gold+ too

[south folio]

i know my housemate's similarly got a GPU that causes the lights in their room to dim for a moment as it starts up

[languid rock]

and also that shits mf bronze and 7 years old

im gonna buy gold or if i can find it, platinum

[coarse birch]

This gives me unreal anxiety

[languid rock]

might be cheaper just to get gold and more headroom

[coarse birch]

Plat is great although a significant price increase

Yeah i think i got 1000w 80+ gold for 180

Or something

[south folio]

prolly, albeit depending on how soon you plan on upgrading again as well

[coarse birch]

150 maybe

I can double check

[royal vortex]

https://tenor.com/view/n3ong-contraption-creation-crab-gif-20593075

[south folio]

go away

[languid rock]

im not convinced im going to upgrade anything else for a long time so im gonna deal hunt

[coarse birch]

Fully modular will save you time too

[languid rock]

i have an old threadripper which games have grown into so its now a kinda slow but fully cored chip

8(16)

and a whole lot of decent speed ram, big fat graphics card

[coarse birch]

Im also done uprading for a while

Cant make too many meaningful upgrades for a few years

[languid rock]

i think im going to upgrade once amd or intel start releasing consumer chips with more than 8 cores

[coarse birch]

Hopefully my current monitor can make it to the next gpu upgrade

[languid rock]

the 1900x i have is a... business chip

i was a database guy though so it got used

[coarse birch]

Well ryzen 9 5900+ has 12 cores

Not gaming chips tho

Still does fine

[languid rock]

amd makes a 96 core threadripper

[coarse birch]

But not a x3d

[languid rock]

they're crazy they must be impossible to cool

[coarse birch]

Yeah i think you need to really get a whole build for it

[languid rock]

only like a 2.something clock speed when they're all running, its a definite special workload chip

[coarse birch]

Special case/cooler probably

[languid rock]

its probably for a special blade lol

its also 10000 dollars

[coarse birch]

Although if your running it under max load your doing some shit lol

[languid rock]

you need a weird workload where overhead matters more than clock cycles for that one to matter

theres cheaper 64 core chips with the same cycle count for half the price

[coarse birch]

Die

[royal vortex]

i like how long u waited to tell me to die

u had to think about it

[coarse birch]

That being said half price is still 5000

Lol

It had to settle in

[languid rock]

Yeah that's for a big database or something

Threadrippers were always business chips, mine just coincidentally ended up aging into a midrange gaming chip lol

[coarse birch]

Yeah they were not meant for people to just throw in a pc

New ones need a particular socket dont they

Like a unique one

[languid rock]

Yeah its not the same as the consumer socket, never was

Mines in a socket only 6 chips ever worked in

[coarse birch]

Makes sense

[languid rock]

They're huge

Idk how big they are now but mine was almost as big as two normal chips

[coarse birch]

Yeah thats at least what they are now

Might be more

[languid rock]

I hope more, no idea how you'd cool them otherwise lol

[coarse birch]

Yeah that would be interesting to cool

[languid rock]

The hottest ones are 350 watts it kinda boggles the mind

[coarse birch]

350 watts

Thats what my gpu pulls lol

Crazy

[maiden path]

all lasguns share earned blessings right

[coarse birch]

Infantry ye

[maiden path]

wtf u mean infantry

[coarse birch]

Helbore/recon etc are separate

Infantry las guns

[maiden path]

wtf

[coarse birch]

Recon lasguns

Helbore

All separate

[languid rock]

The other 2 aren't on zealot

[maiden path]

need ghost on XII

[south folio]

insane

my entire laptop consumes ~40-60 watts while playing darktide

[languid rock]

Vet gets both psyker gets recon

[coarse birch]

Tbf im not on a laptop

Mine probably consumes

Uhhh

700

[languid rock]

Yeah idk how you cool a processor putting out as much heat as a full ass 4090

[coarse birch]

Given i needed a 1000w psu from my old 750

[coarse birch]

The stock cooler surely

[south folio]

taking Ls in summer

[coarse birch]

My pc is fairly cool

Does put out heat though

Which is good cause its doing its job

It better i have 10 fans

[sterile stone]

Mans pc turns into a potential bomb threat in the summer

[torpid palm]

Why can you get -5 dodges?

[south folio]

they're the so-called "inefficient" dodges

you'll notice that they're shorter and have a longer delay between each consecutive dodge you can perform

[torpid palm]

And why does sliding take up a dodge while sprint sliding doesn't?

[south folio]

to balance out dodge-sliding

though it's a bit moot now that trash ranged enemies dont' stun you while sprinting

[coarse birch]

Its nice for trappers sometimes

Thats it tho

Muties occasionally

[south folio]

it used to be that sprinting while being shot at by trash enemies staggered you, so there was a risk associated with sprint-sliding if you're not a TWBS zealot

so dodge-sliding was the best for uptime on ranged i-frames

but now that's gone, yeah it's pretty free

[torpid palm]

TWBS?

[south folio]

oop

Thy Wrath Be Swift

the stun immunity talent somehwere on the right below throwing knives

despite the description, it applies to both melee and ranged attacks

[coarse birch]

Left side under dance of death

[torpid palm]

so basically i can't spam dodge slides when fighting against ranged?

[south folio]

u fool

[coarse birch]

Well right side in terms of the whole tree

[south folio]

o

that's what you meant

[south folio]

yeah

[coarse birch]

I described it badly yeah

[south folio]

all of your dodges regenerate after 0.85s of not dodging/sliding

so it's not too bad

[torpid palm]

Because I like to use a big swinging weapon and dodge between each swing to stagger hordes, but then I noticed I couldn't dodge + slide backwards

[coarse birch]

And some weapons still have pretty usable dodges even when in the negatives

[south folio]

yeah most weapons turn off the ability to dodge-slide once you run out of efficient dodges

[sterile stone]

That should still be a thing?

[coarse birch]

Would depend on how far negative he was

He needs 2 free dodges

[sterile stone]

Fair

[maiden path]

brunt

give me ghodroll xiii

and my life is urs

https://tenor.com/view/kratos-fortnite-kratos-kratos-dancing-kratos-griddy-kratos-fortnite-gif-26561093

[sterile stone]

Mobility affects avaliable dodges does it not?

[coarse birch]

Yeah usually you lose one

With low enough mob

Generally below 50

You might lose 2 on some?

Honestly if you have 4 dodges you wont really run out anyway

Minus mk6 psword

[sterile stone]

Yeah I noticed on some guns I have 2/2 and on like my infantry rifle I have 4/4

[coarse birch]

Since it basically has 2

Yeah some have very few total

Like plasma

[maiden path]

https://youtu.be/jzF0T65ks3A?t=241

AUUUUUUUUUUUUUGH

i sold my soul to the brunt store

[south folio]

brauto 😢

[sterile stone]

Dude these micro stutters do not feel sexy at all

Wtf is this

[south folio]

people seem to be saying that it's a shader cache issue

shame

[frosty herald]

Seems like everyone is stuttering

[maiden path]

I AM ASWELL!

however i think its my cpu

usually doesnt stutter this much though

[coarse birch]

Does it fix itself after a few matches like that one shader issue forever ago

[maiden path]

i feel the power coursing through my veins with this

[sterile stone]

So what verfy files?

[south folio]

usually yeah like most shader cache issues

[maiden path]

ok now i hope robot bitch doesntg fuck it up

[coarse birch]

Tbf i think brautos deserve low mobility

Given their role

[south folio]

yeah they would be more menacing

[coarse birch]

Play a few missions

If you havent

[frozen kernel]

Answer: Suffer

[south folio]

just looking through the files there's a darktide_shader_cache_builder.exe though i'm not sure if that's it

[spare talon]

i booted up destiny 2 again
did a legend onslaught up to wave 50
boss door doesnt open so we literally cant finish it

how did i play this game for so long

[coarse birch]

Run it arco

[frozen kernel]

Wait wut? America explain

[maiden path]

@spare talon oh yea

thanks for the build

[frozen kernel]

Am I just giving myself carpal tunnel for nothing?

[maiden path]

uniroincally peaked my interest in zealot again

dclaw is fun as fuck

[spare talon]

its so amazing

[coarse birch]

You can just sprint slide at shooters now ye

With any class

[maiden path]

dlcaw is too goated

parrying bulwark overheads feels like im some fucking knight

[coarse birch]

I like the 7

[frozen kernel]

Sekiro Pox Die Twice

One day I’ll get around to trying other melee weapons again

[south folio]

no u

[frozen kernel]

Once my undying love for the evi fades away in the great nothingness at the end of time

[maiden path]

the crits on dclaw + piety + crits give cooldown + elite kills cooldown reduction actually just busted

[maiden path]

erm pick up dlcaw

i used tigrus 24/7

dclaw ruined it forme

cant use tigrus anymore without feeling like im gimping myself

[frozen kernel]

Peanut brain like thematic of big chainsaw sword

[maiden path]

me looking at the 8 bulwarks in a horde before I get hit by 30 overheads and die

[coarse birch]

No

[frozen kernel]

Same reason I run Lucius on vet even though it’s kinda meh

[coarse birch]

I havent seen if i stutter tho

[maiden path]

finally a normal person

i only use thematic weapons

[frozen kernel]

Bayonet strike go “KYAH”

[maiden path]

why the fuck is a zealot using a revolver

fuck u

give him a shotgun

[frozen kernel]

I like the laspistol

[maiden path]

my zealots not no cowboy

he's a scottish danny elfman

give that man an autogun

[frosty herald]

Im pret sure if i stack scrier marked stack speed and a celery stim i will be twice as fast as the knife zealot

[frozen kernel]

I wear the Krieg chest so I’m like a battlefield chaplain stacking bodies for the God Emperor

[spare talon]

i mean
i use revolver with my dclaw

[frozen kernel]

I used the revolver until auric maelstrom went “You need more than 5 rounds, fucko”

[maiden path]

disgusting............................

ill die befor i use revolver

[spare talon]

that just means youre not meleeing enough

[maiden path]

i refuse to respect stealth zealots

[spare talon]

or arent using chastise throwing knives

[maiden path]

GRAAH

THROWING KNIVES

[frozen kernel]

I’m not meleeing the rager wave

[maiden path]

when do i use throwing knives

[frozen kernel]

I watch too many vets try that

[maiden path]

yea thats why u need dclaw

just parry them

[spare talon]

weak

this patch they made their attacks dodgable

theyre so easy now

[frozen kernel]

I like being able to gun-fu my sidearm and 2-3 tap most specials

Infernus puts in serious work on bulwarks

[coarse birch]

You can kinda use tknives whenever, but generally if theres a special or w/e that you cant stop from doing there action with your gun

In time

[frozen kernel]

Throwing knife users when the director throws a crusher wave at them

[coarse birch]

And you need them to stop

[spare talon]

i use throwing knives against crusher waves

[hushed knoll]

Hello Laces

[south folio]

sick bastard

[hushed knoll]

I've done nothing wrong

[frozen kernel]

Can’t argue gumption isn’t alive and well

[coarse birch]

Why did you name arco laces

[frozen kernel]

Haven’t played in a couple weeks. Been tied up with work and other stuffs but excited to play again

[hushed knoll]

I didn't

My phone did

[coarse birch]

Uh huh

[frozen kernel]

Also when you say this patch do you mean it as in the “Achievements are Content” update or was there something in the last few days?

[coarse birch]

Penance patch ye

[frozen kernel]

Ah

[spare talon]

this patch

had some enemy balancing changes

in addition to the penances

and they feel great

[coarse birch]

Yeah enemy changes are great

Even if ragers and shooters dont do much now

[spare talon]

outskilling ragers is always fun

skip to the second half of this video

[coarse birch]

But ill take these ragers over uninteractable blob of hitbox from before

[spare talon]

getting caught off guard can still be deadly in general tho cuz tbh we're the ones with melee stun immunity

so a vet that gets caught by a hit could still get mulched

[coarse birch]

Tbh i think thats ok

Although i do think ragers could probably still use some changing

[spare talon]

but the biggest thing is that it lets the melee class not have to fear the melee enemy

since we can just now outskill them

[coarse birch]

Yeah its nice

Although packs can still get awkward

With the overlap

[south folio]

even packs can just dodge spam cuz now that they're dodgeable + 50% Dr during dodges

freeeeee moneeee

[coarse birch]

My muscle memory is still dodge back shoot

[south folio]

so sad I discovered knife rager stagger tech after they got nerfed

[coarse birch]

So im not too experienced with fighting packs yet

Although i also play knife psyker idk how many ragers im gonna fight at once

[spare talon]

my muscle memory is "dude hold W, this kill feed is gonna look SICK"

[coarse birch]

I dont trust it

Unless i have hsword/crusher

Then i can fight pre patch anyway

[hushed knoll]

Are you named after the material you use to tie your shoes

[south folio]

no

the name is the consequence of an evil and morally bankrupt person's actions

[hushed knoll]

Mittins?

[south folio]

his name begins with S

[coarse birch]

Arco i will admit morally bankrupt is good

[north sedge]

super mittins?

[south folio]

somehow would be a better person than st*n

[coarse birch]

Wow

Thats saying something coming from arco

[hushed knoll]

Who is Ston

[hushed knoll]

Hello Doughthony

[north sedge]

Spider Tae Ston

[hushed knoll]

Idk who that is

[north sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/katamari-driving-katamari-damacy-gif-22734901

[coarse birch]

Impressive you spell doughthony right consistently

[oak blaze]

lagtide

[maiden path]

when will zealot get cestus

i want boxer

https://youtu.be/WxrTu7fT1FY?t=45

me fighting a bulwark

before i get overheaded and die

[hushed knoll]

Why wouldn't I

[hushed knoll]

Why does this remind me of South Park

[coarse birch]

Is that a serious question

[maiden path]

the children of today do not know of katamari

https://tenor.com/view/hiiii-heii-hai-hey-hei-gif-25082509

[north sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/katamari-dipp-colorful-dance-gamer-dance-gif-18978716

[misty mason]

Hi stan

[hushed knoll]

I hate this

[hushed knoll]

Hello Dan it's past your bedtime

[maiden path]

actually kind of mad they locked this behind that whole debacle

and now i cant have it

can we kill HADRON

it hurts being this swag

hadron ruined it

fatshark drop crafting update now

[red pollen]

Disconnects 37
T pose enemies beating on you while floating 1346
Entire team but one disconnect when final boss died 3
Total deaths zero
Auric maelstrom monstrous specials
Game is so fucking broken

[north sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/katamari-damacy-silly-weird-gaming-guitar-gif-16667220

[frozen kernel]

Knife Psyker with assail knives and boom AOE staff is pretty yolked for deleting rager/mauler squads

[coarse birch]

I play assail/a gun so ragers arent an issue

Knife just wouldnt be what id use against a pack

Since both assail and gun destroy them

[frozen kernel]

Oh yeah no lol

Assail is really good when used like the throwing knives from zealot

Just whip it out, toss em at the charging ragers, back to staff/melee

[maiden path]

i wish vets talent tree wasnt so fucking weird

[frozen kernel]

I haven’t touched vet in so long

[maiden path]

it feels like you HAVE to get some talents

[frozen kernel]

Zealot has a freedom in that I don’t feel like I need certain talents, but I miss them terribly when they’re gone

[maiden path]

it feels bloated with shit that should just come basekit with some talents

[frozen kernel]

There’s still some that I’d say you’re silly not for making room for

Looking at you, TWBS

[maiden path]

i love thy raft be swift

[south folio]

I enjoy vet's tree the most, besides the must have talents

robust toughness gen talents down either of the top 3 branches
fairly good nodes at each level that you would reasonably want to pay tax nodes to cross the tree for

main issue is a lot of stuff being concentrated at the lowest level
seems like they did that only to make it distinct from zeslot's, albeit being for the worse

[coarse birch]

Yeah its a good tree although i think it could benefit from some stuff being broken up

Like iron will is prob too strong to be a single node

[sterile basalt]

Some stuff should be veteran baseline

[coarse birch]

But theyd need to remove some nodes

[sterile basalt]

Some stuff should be ability baseline

Some nodes need major rework/buff

[south folio]

made regen can be moved into each nade as a specific upgrade node

seems a shame for only Psyker to have upgrades

[coarse birch]

Yeah

I think exe could have less as well

[sterile basalt]

Relentless should be exe stance baseline

[coarse birch]

Feels odd to me that chastise is one with 50 things baked in and exe is reverse

[sterile basalt]

Killzone and opening salvo (talent) both need major changes

[sterile basalt]

I don’t think it’s iron will on it’s own, more like it’s conveniently placed on a really strong branch where you just get a ton of good stuff for not that many points

[coarse birch]

Id like to see the cdr on elite kill kneecapped or removed as well honestly, but im generally anti cdr in its current state

[sterile basalt]

CDR probably needs overall tweaks, not just limited to veteran

[south folio]

kill cdr

[coarse birch]

Cdr across the board needs to be taken out back and shot ye

[sterile basalt]

Psyker’s CDR combo is hilarious

[coarse birch]

Yeah shriek/warp charges and all that

Are so dumb

Crit cdr is super free as well and piety essentially acts as a passive

Hardly even plays like a keystone

[hushed knoll]

That's violent

[south folio]

kill stan

[hushed knoll]

Wtf

Cmon laces don't be mean

[zealous basin]

https://tenor.com/view/hmm-meeting-gif-26837833

[coarse birch]

Arco is strictly mean

Wym

[hushed knoll]

No notes pelase

Please

[north sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/writing-down-earth-worm-earthworm-jim-90s-cartoon-gif-26600413

[misty mason]

Did you type this in your sleep?

[zealous basin]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1083072496909160448/1235040470552412211/Destiny_2_2024.04.30_-_12.00.53.08.DVR_-_Trim.mp4?ex=6632ec92&is=66319b12&hm=ce91ecadcb5089b2413d57ffb21fb2880a2244947e9bb5f71d3984ec9f5368d9&

[misty mason]

since this is you rn

[zealous basin]

can someone get these fucking goblins

out of my face

[misty mason]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-sleepy-sleepy-head-sleepy-dog-puppy-gif-181924725074801786

[zealous basin]

https://tenor.com/view/waking-up-cat-reverse-mimir-gif-14394846257419819571

[misty mason]

How deranged would it be to set mark to left click while I do the mark penance

[zealous basin]

[south folio]

it's is on the level of "you will be stabbed"

[zealous basin]

by me

i will stab u

[hushed knoll]

The fuck

Is that the red blood cell guy

[hushed knoll]

This is you

[coarse birch]

What

[misty mason]

https://tenor.com/view/mattp-do-you-think-it-funny-gif-21356244

[fleet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/yummy-food-in-my-tummy-gif-26903206

Ordered some dominos

[maiden path]

fucked up commisar 😭

[fleet zealot]

Not their disgusting pizza tho, their sauce is garbage, like extra sweet ketchup

Got some alfredo pasta

[coarse birch]

I never minded dominos although i have it rarely and im the least picky person

[maiden path]

yea vets skill tree still feels fucked up

always feel like ur gimping urself

[leaden pebble]

i live in detroit so its basically a sin to get pizza from chains

theres several actually good places to get pizza here

and im quite thankful for it

[north sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/earthworm-jim-jump-rope-gaming-worm-rope-gif-17320303

[spare talon]

Fixed a bug where enemies sometimes could open the gate in the penance puzzle in Warren 6-19.

SO THATS why it was just open sometimes

[ripe quest]

God I love Flamer

[north sedge]

omg wrong game why nobody talk zealot wtf

[ripe quest]

https://tenor.com/view/disintegrating-funny-thanos-gif-22399978

[calm salmon]

this was my latest scoreboard I was proud of

[ripe quest]

What's with this dough guy he keeps showing up in my games and throwing 380s at me

[coarse birch]

Darktide server

[hushed knoll]

Exhilluous go to bedge

[coarse birch]

Only talk about dt please

F

[hushed knoll]

Exhillious

[coarse birch]

Better than before

[misty mason]

Stan

Bedge

Nao

[hushed knoll]

You can't make me

I'm the gingerbread man

[north sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-mind-blown-elmo-explosion-death-gif-11880347

[hushed knoll]

Dough after he chews 5 gym

Gum

[ripe quest]

yee you can get some crazy numbers. That mission wasn't long, max 18 minutes. Max I've ever hit was like 630 iirc.

[calm salmon]

Most kills I've gotten was a little over 1200

[calm salmon]

when we had the old railgun

and old breaker

[ripe quest]

current breaker still fucks

groundbreaking DPS still, baffles me considering how they balance 2 vs. 3 AP weapons

[calm salmon]

Breaker, Machine Pistol, Impact Grenades, Railgun, Guard Dog Rover, and I don't remember my two stratagems. probably eagle airstrike and eagle 500kg

[calm salmon]

adjudicator still being pretty close to unsueable

[hushed knoll]

:axid

:acidpf

Fuk

[north sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/weightlifting-tricks-mouth-gif-8837991

[calm salmon]

Its an assault rifle now, with two more magazines

[hushed knoll]

[calm salmon]

so that's neat

still has dogshit ammo economy

[hushed knoll]

Did you phtooshop this

[misty mason]

No, Gotobedgestan is a real place

[hushed knoll]

[ripe quest]

It's great. The higher ammo less damage archetype lets it still take down small enemies then it sports good DPS for bigger ones.

[calm salmon]

for bots, maybe

and that's a big ol maybe

It has nowhere near enough ammo to be useable in helldive bugs

[ripe quest]

The ammo buff was needed since it originally had slightly less totals than Lib Pen, now it's a straight upgrade.

[calm salmon]

Granted: Should anything be balanced for helldive

(Arrowhead would probably say no)

[ripe quest]

It has the same range of total damage to other 3 AP primaries. Only exception being Dominator ever since the balls blasting 50% damage increase (and even after a 25 damage nerf still having a huge total)

[calm salmon]

My biggest sticking point though is that I can't help but compare all of the AP3 weapons to the Jar-5 Dominator

and the Jar-5 Dominator just completely shits all over them in every single regard.

Like, the one legitimate drawback to the Jar-5 is the muzzle velocity of its ammunition.

Which you can just. . . get into punching range to negate.

[ripe quest]

As said before Adjudicator can fill the role of lower priority target clear, it having a little over twice the ammo and having the 1 shot on all inf and small bugs allows it to do that fairly well. Dominator has the beefy shots going for it and high total.

[calm salmon]

Like, if I'm fighting bugs, I want the liberator, defender, or sickle. The breakers are fine choices too.

If I'm gonna fight bots, I'm taking the Jar-5 every single time because it has zero relevant competition. I guess if I go Autocannon against bots, I just take the sickle but any AT Strat and I'm taking the jar-5 for its raw efficiency on large groups of devastators.

[ripe quest]

wdym by 0 relevant competition? If you're aiming for Dev clear the Diligence is top of the line. Scorcher and Punisher Plasma have great damage and stagger for it too. Could argue for high firerate weapons like the Knight too but it's more on some good sprays and isn't great at range.

[misty mason]

For auric survivor, you don't need to be there for the whole game right?

[spare dome]

idk why peeps have so much trouble realizing the adjudicator

[calm salmon]

The closest competitor to the Jar-5 is the slugger. Everything else is leagues below it.

[spare dome]

plus it looks like a sad anteater and that's the best

[calm salmon]

I say leagues, but we're comparing two weapons in S-Tier to things in low A-Tier

not really a huge difference at the end of the day, but its hard to look at something like the adjudicator or diligence when I can just take a jar-5 or slugger and require zero effort to do well.

[ripe quest]

Slugger is hardly going to be competing with a Diligence for Dev clearing. Dominator gets outdone simply due to ammo and hitting the same 1 shot breakpoint.

[calm salmon]

Slugger has a perfectly zeroed reticle, next to no bullet drop, and one-shots on headshots and still has enough damage and pen to drill torsos if you don't wanna bother aiming.

Rounds reload means you can be fairly liberal with your reloads between fights too, or just have minimal downtime during

[ripe quest]

I can try to pull a Crab clip since I've seen him fuck with the thing but you can clear patrols of Devs insanely fast, paired with the great ergo and it's easy to use too. Also hits the 1 tap on all inf anywhere to the body.

Diligence CS also hits similar upsides but has a far longer 1 shot range after the buff. Both are incredible anti-bot weapons, I recommend you trying them because if you think the slugger is good, like lmao you need a good weapon in your life.

[cursive cloak]

... wait a sec this isn't darktide talk

that being said, the buffed Adjudicator feels great, and is my standard firearm now

[drifting wolf]

my beloved

[calm salmon]

I think the point you're missing is that I don't have to bother aiming with either the Jar-5 or Slugger

just put crosshair on chest and pull trigger until dead

and both weapons have a good enough ammo economy to not care about headshots.

[drifting wolf]

i miss the slugger's stagger

something about a slug shotgun not staggering things as well anymore just feels... wrong

[calm salmon]

It still has stagger

it doesn't have knockback anymore

[drifting wolf]

ah

[calm salmon]

there's degrees of stagger in the game

you can still punt bot aim high and to the right by shooting them.

It just won't cause them to completely freeze up anymore in the stun/knockback animation

[drifting wolf]

yeah, just kind of feels odd to not have them reeling from that

[humble dome]

I use breaker incendiary for bugs and dominator for bots

[drifting wolf]

i would like to live in a world where the breaker incendiary isn't an ugly shade of orange

[visual stream]

Defender two shot headshotting devs is pretty nice though tbh

Neat that it's good against both factions so far

[ripe quest]

If you're just doing that def get a support weapon for it. Both the Dominator and Slugger have garbage chestplate ttks, taking 5 shots. Smth like a Scorcher/PP or a Crossbow would be better for brainless Dev killing. If you want the stagger a Punisher can pellet scum 1 shot the head and stunlock them, Breaker and SnP can too but with less stagger. Can even argue for the Adjudicator here since it hits the same 2 shot BP on the head as the base Diligence, has higher ammo, but trades the 1 shot bodyshot on inf.

Best two weapons for it are Railgun for the complete 1 shots anywhere and AMR for the waist 1 shot. AC has nice utility for Gunner Devs.

[drifting wolf]

love me amr

[ripe quest]

HMG is nice too if you have the aim down, 100 damage w/ 4 AP is super nutty.

[opaque island]

this is the darktide server right?

[drifting wolf]

when needed, yeah

[ripe quest]

When it needs to be.

[opaque island]

funny answer i like it

[bronze warren]

lmaoo helldivers W

[fleet zealot]

game is solved, so we just talk about whatever until someone comes in with a question

[calm salmon]

^real fax

[fleet zealot]

i have researched flight

[strange jasper]

this brings joy where there is none

[red mesa]

what do you guys think the best keystone with a rashad axe is?

[languid rock]

whats the rest of your build? but probably fury

im trying to decide if its worth trying to make a good weapon now or if brunt and hadron will punish me

my mk 2 evisc is nothing special

[jolly trail]

I mean as long as you have the money, no time like the present

[languid rock]

there might be some kind of crafting update...

also brunt hates me

i only have 400k because i havent been spamming high diff and hes gonna spit on it

[fleet zealot]

momentum or martyrdom

rashad doesn't use crit that well

momentum for consistency and cdr option, martyrdom for fat bonuses

you can run crit rashad and it will work just cause crit is overtuned and rashad is also overtuned

but in general, a breakpoint heavy weapon like rashad will favor consistency over crit rng

[languid rock]

im still weighing whether to spend money and i scrolled past all the grey eviscerators i have that are total garbage

[heavy arch]

plasma shotty is bugged to fuck

[fleet zealot]

there's a plasma shotgun?

[languid rock]

selling all my crap XV blanks will probably pay for 3 or 4 mk2s

[fleet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/manul-erm-what-the-flip-pallas-cat-gif-717779379862280562

[languid rock]

they might be talking about helldivers lol

ok im gonna give brunt all my money and brace for pain

[fleet zealot]

i'm aware

[languid rock]

the plasma shotgun is pretty dogshit lol

[ripe quest]

🅱️losma is one of the top tier weapons. AI disabling nonsense w/ a Mortar soul.

[languid rock]

only 230k dockets to get a decent blank 🙂

the plasma punisher is what im taking about

i dont think it has ems effects and it barely kills stuff

you know what brunt ill take it

[ripe quest]

yee, it's a 150 damage AoE. It's an ok AoE size, great stagger, and has really good durable damage which factors in for damage against certain enemies.

[sterile stone]

I step out for a moment

Shenaniginary occurs

[ripe quest]

Scorcher also has the benefits but has a bit less damage on the AoE.

[languid rock]

i still havent grabbed scorcher

i hear the lightning shotgun is pretty good now

[ripe quest]

Statistically it's on the lower end but it feels great with the firerate buff. Was already nice for CC, now it's better and has ok DPS for medium enemies.

It's pretty much just having an Arc Thrower since it's the same damage per shot, but with 5 pellets.

And 3 AP instead of 7

[frozen kernel]

You slide dodge once and your ankles are turning to dust lmao

[ripe quest]

speaking of 7 AP I found out that buffed Railgun doesn't practically go to 7. It's possible but it's an incredibly tiny window that isn't worth it to hit. Because the 6 AP threshold is a medium charge, the rest of the charge is now just for timing and not anything more. The Durable just seems to go from 60 to maybe ~120.

[languid rock]

the sprint speed malus is pretty harsh lol

[ripe quest]

So the only 2 weapons that hit 7 AP rn are Arc Thrower and Spear.

[languid rock]

it looks like shredder dump isnt a huge deal on the mkII if i understand the breakpoint calculator right

is savage sweep useful or do i just go for the damage blessing

[ripe quest]

SS is nice on the Mk II, gives a lot of crowd coverage. Stacks with the 0.75x hitmass mod for Flak on the H1.

[languid rock]

i should maybe try running a not crit build for once

[spare talon]

heresy

[languid rock]

go SS and rampage instead of one of those and shred?

[spare talon]

ss rampge for the mk2

[ripe quest]

For a standard build yes.

[languid rock]

yeah honestly even if i want to crit build the tree gives enough

[ivory marlin]

Guys

[languid rock]

i made 140k selling useless mk 2 and 15 eviscerator greys

brunt really providing quality goods

[vast radish]

Oh, well thanks hadron.

[languid rock]

the smacker

[vast radish]

and a very salvageable one.

[ember yew]

whats salvageable, its almost the best possible roll

you just get that +Flak and upgrade Skusher to IV

[languid rock]

brunt and hadron have ruined me

(i actually have a bunch of hail mary crafts im going to do before im truly in ruins)

has anyone checked if those two are in a secret cabal

this may have to do

[undone pewter]

Not perfect but pretty solid

It'll do you well

[frozen kernel]

I’ve heard good things about perfect strike recently. It’s not the best but folks say it feels good

Savage IV is hella nice though

[languid rock]

i'll have to double check i think rampage is important for some ogryn breakpoints with that shredder roll

[ripe quest]

On the Mk II it can be used as an interesting sidegrade to Savage. 4x cleave and the lack of armor bounce is fun.

[torpid palm]

How are you supposed to gapclose as melee only against a narrow hallway of ranged?

[languid rock]

slide

also what do you mean melee only

[torpid palm]

Not using ranged weapons

[languid rock]

at least bring a brauto or something to supress with as you slide

[torpid palm]

you'll still get hit between slides and you won't get far since you have no inertia speed

[languid rock]

i dunno this isnt a problem i have

i just get violent

[spare talon]

this person just joined me while i was soloing a mission cuz i was bored

i have no idea who this person is

theyre not on my friends list

i asked who they were and they just keep patches squatting in front of me

[ivory marlin]

Guys i beat placid plastic duck simulator

I accidentally left my pc on

[nimble fiber]

tuna

[ivory marlin]

Fish

[nimble fiber]

also

Im so proud of u for beating plastic duck

[ivory marlin]

Thank you

[nimble fiber]

your welcome

[ivory marlin]

Owning all ducks is my proudest achievement

[nimble fiber]

only real gangstas own all the ducks

[ripe quest]

Anti-shooter movement.

Diagonal sprinting, sliding, etc.

[torpid palm]

diagonal sprinting won't work down narrow corridors, you'll get hit

also you can't slide very far since if you spam slide you barely gain any distance

[ripe quest]

You can diagonal sprint in a straight line, doesn't matter if it's narrow.

[torpid palm]

no because the angle is super finicky, you have to be almost perpendicular to utilize sprint dodging against bullets

while using A or D to close the gap

like you basically have to be not looking at them which isn't possible on narrow corridors

where they can't be in your view at all

[languid rock]

i checked the math i think this is optimal

kills both ragers with two heavies no rev

[ripe quest]

I've been using diagonal sprinting for like 6 months now, you def can just diagonal sprint in that situation. The only hiccup would be if you go past an enemy and get shot by them. Try it out.

[torpid palm]

also why am I not dominating in stagger on scoreboard when I'm using crucis mk 2 thunder hammer? I wanted to swing a vermintide 2 bardwin heavy hammer and stagger hordes

[ripe quest]

SC helps if you don't use a stamina-efficient weapon.

[languid rock]

are you pushing? thats where a lot of the staggers come from

just pushing poxer hordes

its better to just kill them than stagger them

[torpid palm]

no reason to when my swings are massive and keeps knocking them over

[languid rock]

yeah pushes are just faster, the scoreboard is not reflective of optimal play

[torpid palm]

what's SC?

[royal vortex]

don't even look at that stat. it's not tracked in a way that makes sense

[languid rock]

you have to understand what's going on in the game before the scoreboard will do anything but make you mad

[ripe quest]

Stagger falloff is near non-existent with cleave profiles so any weapon with high cleave will compete. Not that it matters much since it doesn't matter if you stagger the most enemies.

[ripe quest]

Swift Certainty. I have a video of it in pins if you want to see it in action.

[ripe quest]

The staggermaxxing meta will live, I'll only bring a Savage Sweep + Hammerblow Dclaw + a damage dump Man-Stopper Lawby. Stuns and Chorus = peak.

[south folio]

if there's no reapers you can just book it down the hallway

cuz ranged enemies in front will bodyblock those behind

[ripe quest]

could also just terminator walk at them w/ TDR stacking and TWBS.

[languid rock]

how does inexorable judgement work, i've never actually used it

[royal vortex]

move = good

[south folio]

move legs -> get stacks
hit an enemy to consume your stacks and begin the buff

[languid rock]

is it like 1 stack per second?

[ripe quest]

buffs melee and ranged damage/attack speed. Also buffs dodges. You get it by default for just moving but ideally you farm dodges with the addon to hit 15 stacks each refresh.

[south folio]

it scales depending on how far you've moved i believe

i.e., the faster you are, the more stacks you gain per unit of time

[languid rock]

interesting... and do you spend stacks while you have the buff or does moving and dodging during it let you collect a few if you're fighting?

[torpid palm]

does this game have mods of a bestiary or compendium of creature and weapon stats like vermintide 2?

[languid rock]

also its competing with good ol marty mode...

[south folio]

if nothing's happening, then moving is what usually gets you stacks
in a fight, the upgrade node for getting stacks is what primarily gets you stacks

[ripe quest]

You build stacks, then when you land a hit you proc all of those stacks. For 6 seconds you get x stacks worth of the buff, during which you can build the next proc's stacks.

[frozen glen]

i miss when momentum had 60% dodge buff

that was funny

[ripe quest]

Martyr hits much higher melee damage and attack speed, and also gives TDR. However it uses curios and low health to hit that, and doesn't give ranged damage/attack speed nor does it buff dodges.

[languid rock]

ok so doing dodges while fighting a horde will get you max stacks for the refresh?

[south folio]

you are funny

[frozen glen]

i dont know if that was meant to be a compliment or an insult

[ripe quest]

Back when it was impossible to run out of dodges with knife since the cooldown was so low

[frozen glen]

it literally recharged as soon as u dodged

[torpid palm]

Does Darktide have something like this? https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1464907434

[royal vortex]

it actually figuratively recharged as soon as u dodged

[ripe quest]

If you get good dodges in sure. If you are poor with dodges you can mess it up.

[royal vortex]

idiot

[frozen glen]

i hate u

[royal vortex]

u wish

[ripe quest]

Best we got is gameslantern and creature spawner for testing.

https://dt.wartide.net/calc/

[languid rock]

im at least good at not getting hit so im probably good at counting as dodging

[ripe quest]

Also BP Calc for damage values

[languid rock]

ill try making a momentum build

i do have triple wound trinkets available though

[ripe quest]

For enemy stats: gameslantern and ingame. Also in pins there's some stuff.
For builds: pins and build thread.
For niche weapon info: ask a local dataminer.

[spare talon]

the existence of the newer knife and also dodgable ragers mean i can now semi consistently solo auric missions, depending on the type

[sterile stone]

[spare talon]

until yknow
my dodge just doesnt happen cuz of 1 poxwalker so i get flattened by a crusher

[nimble fiber]

cole playing something else besides devils claw? impossible!

[spare talon]

i do find knife fun from time to time

but i respect other people enough to not run it in actual missions

hence soloing

[frozen glen]

coward

[nimble fiber]

I keep trying to give the devils a chance but it just won't work

[sterile stone]

Are you on right now?

[nimble fiber]

I have the feeling it doesn't do enough damage

[spare talon]

i used to main knife for a few weeks before the crusher changes

so i do have experience running it in public matches

but idk what i was on cuz i used crit cdr with chorus

with knife

lmao

[spare talon]

this fucking guy

right to my side

[spare talon]

yes

someone just walked up to me in the mourningstar and said

[sterile stone]

Word

[sterile stone]

This feels like a TFS Hellsing reference

[spare talon]

UMMM

actually gonna remove this one in case its too much

[sterile stone]

You sure do attract a strange crowd Cole

[spare talon]

and i dont know how to stop it from happening

[sterile stone]

Pubs are rough tonight

3 minutes into a fresh mission

I'm the last alive

Everyone rage quit

[torpid palm]

Why don't I see enemy health bars using creature spawner?

[spare talon]

changing any setting removes the healthbars, just a bug

spawning anything new will have the healthbars though

it just removes them from anything existing

[sterile stone]

Aw that's lame

The knife play emote doesn't pull out a knife

[spare talon]

yeah its fucking stupdi

[spare talon]

did you want me to join you on your pub quest

[sterile stone]

Oh nah

I just wanted to see if you were still on

Pubs tonight are not the best

I wouldn't wanna drag someone else through that miserable slog

Actually nvm

I'm gonna go lay down

[spare talon]

once i get bored of soloing this mission ill be going back into pubs anyway

and by bored i mean fed up with crushers

[ivory marlin]

Gamers

[languid rock]

i just had a match full of bad freezeups

unpleasant

i dont think it reset my graphics settings

[median steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/fallout-fallout2-spin-spinning-meme-gif-20559183

[steep flame]

Heres the spinner

[daring chasm]

this thing rolled pretty godlike, any opinions on things that could be swapped out better with it?

[sterile stone]

Bread

[median steeple]

I finished fo1

Bread

[sterile stone]

Wait what

[median steeple]

All I was planning today

[sterile stone]

Did you buy the bundle?

[median steeple]

No

Because I don't want tactics

[sterile stone]

But it's canon

[median steeple]

Partially

[sterile stone]

So you going through 2 ?

[median steeple]

The brotherhood and enclave being there are cannon

Soon

Gonna finish my malakai campaign on tww

[sterile stone]

Word

I need to kill this mini mosquito

For I cannot sleep with enemies nearby

[median steeple]

Fly paper is your friend

That or just hang a electrified swatter from the roof

It'll get em sooner or later

[spare talon]

thunderstrike to hammerblow or trauma, preferably hammerblow

specialists to your choice of maniac, carapace, elite, or unyielding, there arent any real breakpoints so just take whichevery you wanna deal more damage to

[torpid palm]

This is what I mean when I have trouble doing melee only against ranged mobs

[ember yew]

• Chastice to regen toughness
• Slide to dodge and proc Second Wind
• Dodge when hitting to proc Second Wind

[daring chasm]

thanks a ton!

[ember yew]

You can also dodge + shoot from your ranged weapon

Second Wind regens a ton of toughness

and has 0.5 sec CD

I didnt pay attention if there was stuns/stagger, but TWBS also makes gunners a joke

[spare talon]

yeah not a single slide there explains a lot

sliding is way more effective against bullets than sprinting

plus second wind yeah

absolutely huge talent

[torpid palm]

Why does blood redemption give 50% toughness on a kill while vicious offering only gives 7.5% toughness on a heavy kill?

[torpid palm]

I want to see how someone slides in that situation

[polar nexus]

It's not 50% toughness

[ember yew]

It does not give 50% on kill, it give a bonus +50% on kill

from 5% to 7.5%

[polar nexus]

Fatshark tooltips ❤️

[torpid palm]

huh?

[ember yew]

[zealous basin]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1235047870130819082/splash.gif

[torpid palm]

so how much toughness do you get without talents on a kill?

[ember yew]

5% per target afaik

7.5% if you pick that talent

if you use the heavy attack one, you can summ them up

[torpid palm]

so vicious offering gives 7.5% + 5% = 12.5% total?

[ember yew]

no

5 + 2.5% = 7.5

it gives 2.5

oh wait you said

yeah

using something like heavy sword

on a crowd gives back like 60-80 Toughness per swing

[torpid palm]

so vicious offering gives 12.5% total toughness vs the other one giving only 7.5% total toughness per kill?

[ember yew]

they stack, so its ok

so you are in for 7.5 + 5 + 2.5 = 15% (Vicious + normal + BR)

Per kill from heavy attack

I used that for Heavy Sword 9

since its heavy attacks chain is perfect for it

Deathblow allows you to kill max to 4 heads per one swing

[spare talon]

genuinely in any direction

[torpid palm]

i mean after your first slide you're very slow

[spare talon]

i tend to slide toward them to get closer to start hitting them

im in a game rn i can show you

[torpid palm]

yeah show me like 20 cultist assaults really far from you and how you gap close without suppression or ability

[torpid palm]

you'll get shot between your slides

[oak ermine]

I like how your Zealot says “I have failed you” near the end

[tropic pelican]

you can do this right up in a bunch of elite gunners faces

[oak ermine]

😔

[spare talon]

youll get chipped tiny amounts, thats unavoidable
second wind basically completely eradicates that though

[torpid palm]

so without second wind it's not viable to slide spam?

[spare talon]

plus thy wrath be swift removes any kind of stagger you would recieve from ranged fire entirely, despite it saying its limited to melee

[spare talon]

its viable and recommended on every class

[ember yew]

All builds should use Second Wind

so its like not a question

[spare talon]

second wind is just
really fucking good toughness gen

[ember yew]

[ripe quest]

after 4 days and 4 nights of passion to helldivers I managed to strangle the support weapon damage values out of it

[torpid palm]

then hypothetically without second wind I cannot slide spam?

[ripe quest]

complete with AP and durable

[tropic pelican]

you still can, you just won't get a buttload of toughness out of it

[ember yew]

You can, but if you get toughness broken or low on toughness, your only option would be to chastice or to kill a horde nearby if there's any

or hide

[torpid palm]

chastice?

[ember yew]

Dash

F ability

[tropic pelican]

also it's chastise

[ember yew]

[tropic pelican]

chastise the wicked / fury of the faithful are the dash skill and the upgraded version of the dash skill

[torpid palm]

says TWBS only removes stuns from melee attacks

[tropic pelican]

the tooltip is wrong, you ignore ranged stagger as well

[torpid palm]

D:

[ember yew]

Yeah, there's some hidden mechanics in the game

that's either not explained at all

or via some arsed ways

There's a mod for this if are on PC

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/210

[spare talon]

sorry i was the last alive for a bit
yeah, i said despite saying its limited to melee

[tropic pelican]

does the chastise description even tell you about the armor downgrade effect in game

[spare talon]

nope!

[tropic pelican]

or is that still just an 'if you know you know'

[ember yew]

nope

[spare talon]

if you know, you know

[tropic pelican]

zoinks

[ember yew]

when i started the game god knows when it was

i was just scrolling down reddit

till i saw someone mentioning it

and then bang 9k crits from headhunter on crushers

FS nerfed that tho

[spare talon]

once im done with this mission i can show you better in the psykanium

[marble grove]

are there any good 2h sword builds

i like big swords

[polar nexus]

There is no 2h swords

[marble grove]

i couldve swore there was of the chainsword variety

[spare talon]

[polar nexus]

Oh this kind?

[marble grove]

\

[polar nexus]

It's viable with every build except stealth

[marble grove]

cool

[polar nexus]

Try to get some attack speed tho. Evis without it is kinda pain

[spare talon]

youll still take toughness damage, thats unavoidable
but you will be hit SO much less

[torpid palm]

I see

[spare talon]

it also lets you close the gap, since sprinting directly at them doesnt give ranged dodging

also chastise gives you full ranged immunity during the dash

[marble grove]

yeah theres a tree that adds that to your dash skill isnt there?

[spare talon]

i mean its an upgrade for it yes

but picking any of the other abilities overwrites it and you wont have that dash anymore

[polar nexus]

Fury of the faithful gives you 20% attack speed for 10s after dashing

There's also a 10% attack speed node before martyrdom keystone and inexorable judgement gives you attack speed as well (and other bonuses)

[spare talon]

also something i learned about the dash, 1.4k hours in

[torpid palm]

what's a dash?

[spare talon]

chastise

is what im talking about

[sly mauve]

the f ability shown above

[torpid palm]

ahhh

[sly mauve]

a fast movement forward

ur first melee hit after the dash will penetrate armor/3 sec after dash without hitting anything in melee your ranged has armor pen

[left iron]

Forward movement? Thats a suggestion, you can charge backwards as well

[sly mauve]

with that you can use evisXV special charged heavy attack to oneshot crushers (armored ogryns)

[spare talon]

WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT

[sly mauve]

short invulnerability?

[spare talon]

arco was telling me that its likely invunerability to any non classified damage, like a poxburster

[sly mauve]

yeah ive noticed that

[spare talon]

and i certainly know ive been hit by melee during a charge

also POV: you try to help your teammate

[ember yew]

https://tenor.com/view/fart-dog-not-me-who-farted-gif-5464696

[spare talon]

more parry propaganda

im just looking through my clips if you couldnt tell at this point

oh man i forgot this one

[sly mauve]

is this a mk6

[sly mauve]

playing without spidey sense kek

[spare talon]

i have it for trappers, bursters, and barrels
first two for silent ones so they dont ruin the game
and barrells cuz teammates sometimes have hollow skulls

its not showing in that video cuz i was fucking dead lmao

[marble grove]

any tips for these stupid twins special assignments? they hit like trucks and kill my stamina fast

also how does full auto work? holding mouse down just heavy attacks

oh it didnt load zz

[sly mauve]

yeah i meant the dude u were spectating

i mean spidey sense is kinda op but i refuse to stop using it until they make audio cues locateable via 5.1/7.1 surround sound

[ashen pecan]

they still have to fix certain areas with sound culling

several doors will block poxburster sounds, still

[spare talon]

such as this

yes i did completely ignore the spidey sense thanks for asking

[ornate bone]

any1 wanna do the secrit hard difficulty twin fighto

[ashen pecan]

ngl the sound queues working through door still don't prevent people from just getting bodied from a door poxburster

it's like they actively ignore it idk

[ornate bone]

other day a poxburstwr waited for our elevator to come down and blew up the moment it opened

[spare talon]

A while ago I had a bomber who had just spawned throw a grenade as the elevator door shut, it hit the door, elevator went down, the grenade clipped through the surfaces along the elevator so it landed on the lower floor and detonated when the door opened, causing 2 of us to die from low health

[ornate bone]

[spare talon]

It was especially worse since a wall of crushers was waiting for us on the other side, which is why they went down

Cuz they couldn't get out of the elevator to get out of the fire

This was the elevator at the brewery section of mercantile for perspective

[ashen pecan]

this is why im a perfect strike enthusiast

[ornate bone]

now just need to get a gas bomb thrown in elevator as it start goin down

[ashen pecan]

i think u can survive this with coherency regen, dont quote me on it tho

[frosty herald]

You wont

The gas does more damage per tick the longer your in it

[ornate bone]

why cant it give me a good wep

[frosty herald]

I mean

Gold could have 2 cracked blessongs

[ornate bone]

isnt that wep shiet doe

il get just for fun ig

test it

[frosty herald]

Columnus is very good

[ornate bone]

renamed to dis

btw wats difference on auric and other shit again

did heresy auric other day didnt even take dmg

[ashen pecan]

most auric gamers just gonna play histg 5 missions

or mael

don't think i've ever played a 4 auric

[rigid trellis]

auric reduces time between spawns of specialists and elites afaik on top of making the missions guaranteed to be at least Hi Intensity

[ornate bone]

i feel like heresy auric and other heresy was da same

[ashen pecan]

they're not

it's mostly the ai director that adds the real difficulty, tbh

it decides if you live or die but the difficulty number does affect things like hp and smaller things like shot cd or enemy awareness

local function _monster_health_steps(health)
    local health_steps = {
        health * 1,
        health * 1.25,
        health * 1.5,
        health * 2,
        health * 3
    }

    return health_steps
end```

[obsidian ore]

@ornate bone if you're free hop in strike team 5 ill get you through hard mode twins

[nimble fiber]

[polar nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/heartagram-him-logo-gif-12263103

[ornate bone]

done with dis too nao

were playin with sum randoms that got downed constant

wtf

who rerolls to sprint efficiency

[ornate bone]

i should probly finish the other title first tbh

8/10

[obsidian ore]

Go for it, hit me up if you wanna do twins i'll be here for a while

[ember yew]

https://tenor.com/view/sanic-the-hedgehob-running-gotta-go-fast-fast-gif-4964355

[acoustic dune]

And that kid is why you run 2 3 bar stam curio

[stone fern]

whats recommended for this?

[ornate bone]

i think i used flamethrower

[stone fern]

🤔

yeah good idea

i was thinking heavy sword

[wicked sage]

I made it to kills 30 yesterday with flamethrower, getting a bit frustrated with it

[ashen pecan]

the fan mission

just rush straight forward when you drop down

at least 60 enemies there instantly

[ornate bone]

i got it on the map where u have to defend while extracting data on that one place

[stone fern]

i was thinking vigil station but yeah that can work too

[ornate bone]

no idea what its called

[stone fern]

ye

thats the one

its perfect for penances the end part that is

[wicked sage]

Indeed on the fan mission, then a mutant tossed me into the fan
Good times

[ornate bone]

i think maybe a fire nade here and there to bring em low hp