zealot-class

[median steeple]

god I cant wait for the lawsuit

[leaden pebble]

it was the best rpg to date in 2002, and it was for several years afterwards
evey tes game after was a step down in several ways
by tes6 im sure itll be as watered down as a puddle
total freedom, complex story/writing, lots of storytelling and actually makes you think/read your journal instead of blindly following a compass
the mechanics have aged poorly yes, and doesn't really hold up today but the game is 22 years old and one of the most revolutionary rpgs

[frosty herald]

https://www.google.com/finance/quote/STAR-B:STO?sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiZp9K-s-WFAxWnzAIHHQdLDEUQ3ecFegQIKRAf i dont know wtf they did but their stock suddenly went up

mind you

starbreeze was previously in trouble for insider trading

[fleet zealot]

insider trading !

corporatism killing beloved franchises!

[frosty herald]

ngl

payday being killed is more the devs and corporate together

[ember yew]

https://tenor.com/view/xliuten-yangyang-it-was-an-honour-gif-24541209

[shy river]

Alexa bring up the current payday 2 player numbers

[spare dome]

Starbreeze has never been a lucky company.

Even way back in The Darkness days

[ember yew]

2 > 3

[median steeple]

Sir a second and third femstodes has hit the community

[spare dome]

They've always done good work that was published or advertised poorly

[median steeple]

I can't think of a single ad for pd2

[spare dome]

I'm talking waaaaay back

[ember yew]

rob the banks together with friends

[frosty herald]

payday 2 is the definition of lightning in a bottle

[spare dome]

Also Payday had plenty of ads, idk about 2 specifically cause they all melted together

mostly twitch, mostly steam

[leaden pebble]

also theres a load of variety in architecture and different cultures that isn't replicated nearly as well in their newer games
the story is very rewarding to play and it doesnt deem you a mystical hero who everyone bows down to in the first 30 minutes

[frosty herald]

also heavily implied you are or arent the nerevarine

[spare dome]

the fate of prophecy has been severed

or thread

or whatever

[frosty herald]

this is actualy a lie

[shy river]

After starting with oblivion I wasn't able to get into Morrowind but I can respect it for all the stuff it does and how good it was for the time

[frosty herald]

https://youtu.be/UcyAnWCrdGE?si=iYNycFZanEnV8EVN

[leaden pebble]

mechanically it probably is really hard for new players, because yes it does have much jank

[shy river]

Still good just dated now

[spare dome]

timely jank that fit right in for the time

but yes

very dated

also you have to read

inexcusable

[median steeple]

We're 40k fans you expect us to read

[shy river]

The whole chance to hit enemy right in your face with invisible dice rolls is probably the most frustrating thing for new people, it def was for me

[ivory marlin]

Tf is 40k

Who are yall

Get out of my phone wtf

[frosty herald]

xcom mechanics in my rpg game???

[leaden pebble]

what? i cant just blindly walk towards a quest objective on my compass x30? blasphemy

[median steeple]

Dice rolls wouldn't be a problem in an RPG game if they're in turn based ones

But it's real time so it's bad

[shy river]

I love XCOM to death, I think I have at least 500+ hours between enemy unknown and 2

Yeah it's the real time aspect in Morrowind that makes it frustrating

[frosty herald]

some of you

should wait before your stamina regens

[shy river]

game too old the future is now old man

Also actual darktide moment how much potential boss killing power am I losing with ironhelm t-hammer compared to crucis, is there any rough number percent that people know off the top of their head?

Or a chart somewhere comparing the two

[calm salmon]

yeah, the other part like yam said is that its tied to your stamina

the lower the stamina you have, the worse your odds get

[visual blade]

i will cry

[calm salmon]

(Which just means you make a billion things that keep your stamina at full regardless of what you're doing so like. . . great game design there or whatever)

[sterile stone]

Scientifically speaking

Doesn't this cancel out

[frosty herald]

Unarmed in morrowind is pissing off the daedra prince so much he yeets himself out of existance because of his 0 stamina

[north sedge]

25% less dmg, still gonna dunk on bosses though

[shy river]

That's not too bad

[north sedge]

15% less if you manage to get the h3 hit

[ripe quest]

It's 20 and 10% but ye

Just a tad bit lower.

[frosty herald]

Unarmed in morrowind does stamina damage before health

[ripe quest]

should be in Darktide

if I get hit by a poxwalker my stamina gets drained

if I get overheaded by a Mauler my stamina, toughness, health, ammo, grenades, and cosmetics fall to the floor

I want to see randoms explode into all of the items they own if they die

[spare dome]

All your plasteel blows out of your body like in Diablo I

[frozen kernel]

Turn us into Diablo loot

^^

[spare dome]

yeee

[frozen kernel]

What are the ideal perks for the flamer rn?

[spare dome]

Flak + Unyield/Elite

[sterile stone]

This is Josh levels of derangement

[lusty turtle]

[frozen kernel]

Oh shit nice I can do Flak + Elite

It came with elite unfortunately

Sadly I got Blaze Away + Overpressure for the blessings

[sterile stone]

Actually pause

[frozen kernel]

Is Fan the Flames just dead now?

[sterile stone]

@ripe quest Bro just accidently came up with the idea

[north sedge]

its blaze away + whatever atm

[sterile stone]

For a extraction shooter

In the form of darktide

Escape from Atoma

[ripe quest]

I've been thinking about Darktide having extraction shooter aspects since launch.

[ivory marlin]

Hi argus

[frozen kernel]

https://tenor.com/view/reasonsimbroke-larry-david-hbo-hbo-max-meh-gif-24169087

[fleet zealot]

overpressure fix any week now

[frozen kernel]

Sadly I'm OUT OF PLASTEEL so no overpressure swap yet

[north sedge]

i mean, it just doesnt matter

blaze away the only blessing really doing anything

[sterile stone]

https://tenor.com/view/wtf-meme-really-gif-26853815

[ripe quest]

I really wanted you to be able to pick up enemy weapons and farm white items through that. Back at launch I wanted the game to be much slower paced, Fatshark did the opposite.

[frozen kernel]

I just thought the game had a much better pace in the beta/launch

It feels like we just get overwhelmed by raw zerg now

[sterile stone]

the only place a extraction shooter would make sense in the 40k setting is like a handful of places

[frozen kernel]

And by zerg I mean nurgle's ogryn

[sterile stone]

Like Necromunda

[north sedge]

eh some of that was simply people just figuring out the game

but players are overtuned for sure atm

[ripe quest]

yee Fatshark just wants buffs and reworks so we got this w m1 playstyle going, it has a low bar of entry and it's really effective.

[lusty turtle]

naaa theres plenty of places

its an entire galaxy, write a place for it to work

[sterile stone]

I mean like established places

I was gonna say the ghoul stars

[lusty turtle]

established places are cringe

[sterile stone]

Listen heeeeere buddy

[lusty turtle]

ye i wanted slow paced but after VT2 i knew i was not the target audience

[frozen kernel]

Established places will get the casual fans to play your game

[lusty turtle]

its atleast not as fast paced as VT2

[ivory marlin]

:(

[lusty turtle]

casual fans are also cringe 😤

[sterile stone]

I mean 40k can pull off a Cycle Frontier type game

I can see that working

[frozen kernel]

If you lean heavily on ancient 40k lore that only 5% of the community will understand, you're not going to have a playerbase when they criticize your wall servitor's engravings and quit

[spare dome]

yea dont do a star wars

[frozen kernel]

Don't do a Tatooine

However there's nothing wrong with Nar Shaddaa

[frosty herald]

Make a game based on the rogue trader bookset

Some of the grittiest 40k lore

[sterile stone]

Nar Shaddaa is just a planet wide red light district tho

[calm salmon]

I want a Battlefield Bad Company 2 40k game

Comedy characters in a "real" storyline

[fossil crag]

MIGHT HAVE BEEN ME IM DOING THAT PENANCE SORRY FOR YOUR LOST

[calm salmon]

so it only takes itself as seriously as it needs to to get you from point a to point b

and in the meantime your squad mates are shooting the shit and making jokes

[frozen kernel]

Could've been us if DT actually had a campaign structure

[frozen kernel]

Imagine having a reason to do Hab Dreyko?

[visual blade]

this is 2 german dudes playing male fanatic as old men with knives, martyrdom and invis

[sterile stone]

A 40k mil sim with guardsmen shooting the shit

[leaden pebble]

i miss bc2

[sterile stone]

Getting lucky

Finding a stc

[lusty turtle]

im not talking about using anceint lore

[fossil crag]

not me

[sterile stone]

And the game ends with them living on some exotic world

I like it

[north sedge]

make a game based on my orkboyz fanfic Call Me by Your WAAAGH

[lusty turtle]

im talking using the setting as inteded: i.e. writing new locations

[visual blade]

zealot attracts by far the worst kind of people

[lusty turtle]

its the fun of 40k, theres infinite places to explore

[frozen kernel]

True, plenty of the games have created content and made bangers for it

[lusty turtle]

darktide as an example

big poggers

[frozen kernel]

All the more reason to not lean into the eclectic

Just create new shit, it's a massive universe

[sterile stone]

Yeah but what would a 40k extraction shooter even look like

Like what would be the base premise

[frozen kernel]

Most times people are just happy to have content let alone what's lore accurate

[frosty herald]

Darktide is set in the plague wars

[fleet zealot]

chaos realm BR

[frosty herald]

Raiding space hulks

[sterile stone]

https://tenor.com/view/toma-gif-2794025174063308125

[sterile stone]

That's just marauders

that already exists

[frosty herald]

It is a good setting for a 40k extraction shooter

[frozen kernel]

We need a game where we don't play as humans, we play as the ugly deformed space races

[spare dome]

yes, humans

[fleet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/ferret-running-away-running-escape-animal-gif-14844387

[frozen kernel]

kek

I feel like that Bad Company 2 idea would work there

[sterile stone]

Just copy the loose cannon personality

Add that to like 10 people

Add a Mcguffin

[calm salmon]

Yeah, 40k is at its best when the characters in its story don't take it seriously

[sterile stone]

You've got bad company in 40k

[calm salmon]

Or, correction, don't take it so seriously it turns into a war doc

[ripe quest]

I just want a PvE focused extraction shooter with like, dedicated PvP avenues like a dueling arena where you can gamble items. Best cases I've found have been Hunt and Dark and Darker but they aren't quite it.

[fleet zealot]

The Codex Astartes clearly states

[ripe quest]

I've heard that modded EFT hits the mark though

[lusty turtle]

taking inspiration from ciaphas cain

guardsmen looting from an ork over run territory surviving behind enemy lines

[calm salmon]

SPTarkov is pretty cool

[sterile stone]

Sadly there isn't a market for pve extraction shooters outside of helldivers

[calm salmon]

there's a lot of free form decision making due to a healthy sub-mod scene

[leaden pebble]

hunt is the only extraction shooter ive enjoyed

[calm salmon]

I have a realism mod, along with some FOV/scope fixes

[north sedge]

hunt is quite good

[sterile stone]

Helldivers is like lightning in a bottle for pve extraction shooters

[calm salmon]

so not huge changes to the gameplay pattern

[ember yew]

Escape from Vacation Island: Infinite Cruise

[calm salmon]

but enough to make it F R E S H

[ripe quest]

ehh Helldivers isn't quite what I was thinking of.

[north sedge]

i wouldnt really classify helldivers as extraction...extraction is optional

[pallid apex]

orks looting from a loosely guard-held territory thriving behind enemy lines

[sterile stone]

I have an idea of what can happen here

But still

[leaden pebble]

helldivers isnt really an extraction shooter, you dont take things out of missions and dont have an inventory or anything like that

[sterile stone]

How do you justify guardsmen shooting each other

[calm salmon]

you take samples out of missions

by extracting

it is, therefore, an extraction shooter

[sterile stone]

Unless it's a completely balls to the wall

Abandonded planet

[calm salmon]

in the most broad sense possible

(So broad as to be useless, to be fair)

[sterile stone]

And people are just survivng on the scraps of a war that just ended

[leaden pebble]

yea you may as well not even call it that then lmao

[sterile stone]

Load into map to complete

Objective

[calm salmon]

helldivers 2 is more accurately a horde PVE shooter when fighting bugs, and an homage to metal gear solid when fighting bots

[sterile stone]

Complete objective and subsequent sub objectives

Extract

So technically yes

Helldivers 2 is by technicality

[leaden pebble]

like if thats enough to call it an extraction shooter, nearly every pve game under the sun would be an extraction shooter

[sterile stone]

A extraction shooter

It has all the hallmarks of an extraction shooter

Other than pvp

[frozen kernel]

An extraction shooter is not just a shooter where you extract

[visual blade]

and the fucking idiots kick me

[north sedge]

barely a squint of a speck of mgs in there?

[visual blade]

because i called them what they are

and they're premade

..?

[frozen kernel]

It's specifically ones with the roguelike elements of losing your shit when you die if you dont

[sterile stone]

Hence why you have sub objectives

Like looting

And destroying facilities or nests

[visual blade]

zealot is definitely a class with a playerbase. uhum

[leaden pebble]

exactly
thats why things like helldivers and drg are not extraction shooters

[frozen kernel]

But you don't lose your Helldiver if you die

It's not an extraction shooter

[fleet zealot]

zealot mains are multiclassing/multigaming/multifandomers

[calm salmon]

it'd be interesting to have a hardcore gamemode in helldivers 2

[ripe quest]

Extraction shooters have a more hardcore item-focused element.

[calm salmon]

You die, you lose all of your ugprades

[sterile stone]

True right you don't lose your helldiver

Buuuut

You do lose your samples

[visual blade]

there's zealot mains and then there's shroudfield, knife, loner zealot mains, who are cowardly idiots who shall face an eternity in hell

[sterile stone]

And I'm not sure but do you not also lose your SC and medals if you don't complete the objective

And full wipe

[frozen kernel]

You don't lose your loadout, you don't lose your character, nothing you brought in with you is lost

[visual blade]

slighly joking only in that they will not end up in whatever bad afterlife just because of this, but it is such a shitty way to play the game

[calm salmon]

Super Credits, Medals, and Requisition Slips are added to all four players' accounts as soon as they're picked up.

[frozen kernel]

You don't lose your SC and Reacquisitions, that's why everyone is able to farm them lol

You literally grab them and DC

[calm salmon]

Which is a core part of the farming community

find 4 super credit spots on a map

[placid fiber]

Hey, as soon as they fixed the toughness node under benediction I threw loner to the wind

[calm salmon]

loot them, alt f4

[sterile stone]

I'm pretty sure you do lose samples when you die

[open pollen]

I assure you, I've shot well more than 22 bursters.

[calm salmon]

restart mission, run to same exact spots

rinse and repeat

[frozen kernel]

You lose samples, but not the currencies

[leaden pebble]

if "load into match, complete objective, and leave" counts as an extraction shooter, then you may as well call half of all games an extraction game

[frozen kernel]

Overwatch is an extraction shooter by that logic

[calm salmon]

most games don't have an extract mechanic though

[leaden pebble]

theres more to it than that

[calm salmon]

which is the real delineator here

[north sedge]

titanfall is an extraction shooter (if you lose)

[calm salmon]

Pelican-1, a hole in the wall, a highway, a ship

doesn't matter

so long as there's somewhere where you need to wait to leave

it's an extraction shooter

overwatch, and other multiplayer games, just end after some arbitrary limit/goal is met

[visual blade]

i've lost the itch for darktide because of two idiots thinking they own the world

what a wonderful world

[sterile stone]

It happens.

[calm salmon]

Like, you can call darktide an extract shooter

while VT2 and VT1 are extraction melee-centric games

[north sedge]

l4d obviously one of the first extraction shooters totally

[visual blade]

i'd say any l4d-type game is an extraction shooter

[north sedge]

oh honey no, i was joking

[sterile stone]

If anything though

[leaden pebble]

games like -tide, drg, and helldivers are not in the same lane or genre as eft, dmz and dark & darker lmao

[sterile stone]

Helldivers is more like a hybrid

[visual blade]

and any hunger games-type game/battle royale game a different kind of them

[calm salmon]

mostly though

all this discussion shows is the problem with defining genres

Pedantically speaking, Tide games are extraction games at their core gameplay loop

And l4d, to a degree

[leaden pebble]

you would think extraction = extraction shooter but theres more defining factors like the loot you go into matches with

[calm salmon]

But, it's better to be more accurate with your descriptions

[sterile stone]

It's a broad brush painted over things

[calm salmon]

L4D/Tide games are horde shooters

along with DRG and Helldivers 2

[sterile stone]

to keep it simple I guess

[north sedge]

and very limited or only one life

[spare dome]

behold, a man

[frozen kernel]

Bloodborne chalice dungeons were my favorite extraction game. I loved having to extract with all of my souls at the end of the level /s

[calm salmon]

Like exploits said

vague descriptions are bad

[sterile stone]

They are yeah

[calm salmon]

PLUCKED CHICKEN IS MAN

Thanks, Diogenes

[spare dome]

no even vague

[placid fiber]

What?

[leaden pebble]

real!

[spare dome]

you can get pretty precise but then you start to exclude things that are part of a taxonomical group

[sterile stone]

I mean alot of games are blends and hybrids of existing genres

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/chicken-costume-chicken-costume-coming-for-you-rubber-chicken-gif-13148902

man chicken

[calm salmon]

A bunch of philosophers got together in ancient greece to decide what truly made man, man. One of them suggested a naked biped. Diogenes went and plucked a chicken and came back to the forum and yelled "BEHOLD! A MAN!"

[sterile stone]

[frozen kernel]

Ace Combat 7 is another great extraction game. You have to extract at the end of the level with all of your time spent playing it because there's no checkpoints

[sterile stone]

Is thar Ricky Burwick

[spare dome]

easy example, you describe a dog perfectly. We know it's a dog. But my dog has three legs.

[placid fiber]

idk

All I know is it came up when I typed man chicken

[sterile stone]

[calm salmon]

And by using that same logic, you can call:

DRG, Helldivers 2, Helldivers 1, L4D 1 and 2, Tide Games and the like Extraction Shooters - when they're more accurately referred to as extraction-based horde shooters.

[calm salmon]

While games like Hunt: Showdown, Escape From Tarkov and the like are "Extraction Shooters"

[frozen kernel]

Sure, but if you say you have a husky and what you present is clearly a pug, people are going to say you're wrong. It doesn't matter if he exhibits "dog qualities" he's still not the type of dog you claim he is

[calm salmon]

while PUBG and Fortnite are battle royales

Overwatch is a MOBA

[leaden pebble]

this says it a lot better than i could of

[spare dome]

thats not quite what i mean

[placid fiber]

Honestly I don't care what type of game it is as long as it is fun

[calm salmon]

I just wanted the chance to say that Overwatch is a moba

[spare dome]

we now perfectly describe the qualities of a husky. my husky however does not do the AWWOOOOOO

[calm salmon]

[placid fiber]

If it ain't fun it can go fuck itself

[sterile stone]

This has exploded into pure chaos

[spare dome]

yes taxonomy is a nightmare

[frozen kernel]

I mean like it or not, it is a MOBA. Nothing says MOBA's have to be isometric, it's just that the first ones were

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/awooo-howling-howl-looking-for-help-corgi-gif-18179579969600098576

[spare dome]

nice cat

[placid fiber]

ikr?

kitty go wooo

[calm salmon]

https://tenor.com/view/post-this-post-dog-dog-rat-post-this-rat-gif-22895990

[placid fiber]

https://imgur.com/WZlIezq

[frozen kernel]

https://tenor.com/view/frog-dance-animation-cute-funny-gif-17184624

[sterile stone]

Seeing alot of articles calling HD 2 a looter shooter

[fleet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/mental-breakdance-mental-breakdance-gif-20515527

[leaden pebble]

bbbbbbbbbruh

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/excited-dolphin-shaking-head-gif-13882573

That's the face that only a mother could love ^

[placid fiber]

a looter shooter...?

[sterile stone]

Lemme screenshot the articles

[placid fiber]

That sounds absurd

[leaden pebble]

game journalists are out of touch

[placid fiber]

Next think you know... Super Mario World will be an action RPG...

[leaden pebble]

you can extract? extraction shooter
you can loot samples? obviously a looter shooter
what about, fighting game, because i throw hands with the bugs

[frozen kernel]

Fighting game needs combos. Darktide is a fighting game confirmed

[placid fiber]

Next think you know Darktide will be a platformer...

cause you can run and jump...

[north sedge]

That's why i use this for dt

[jaunty lava]

And there are now platforms for some skulls obviously

[jagged aspen]

overwatch is shit*

[leaden pebble]

only valid answer

[frozen kernel]

Darktide: First Person extraction beat em up platformer soulslike metroidvania collectathon action adventure MOBA of the year

[jaunty lava]

*is now shit

[frozen kernel]

Overwatch went to shit after wrecking ball prove me wrong

[leaden pebble]

ow1 was good for a few years
thats about it

[sterile stone]

These are just a few

[spare dome]

nah

[frozen kernel]

"THE WARFRAME KILLER"

[north sedge]

no the hamster is cool

[spare dome]

brigitte began the long decline

[frozen kernel]

Woof they're hungry for those clicks

[placid fiber]

I think warframe killed itself lol

[sterile stone]

"Looter shooter with no loot"

What

[spare dome]

everything since Brigitte was a series of mistakes made to fix Brigitte

[frozen kernel]

Samples are your loot

[leaden pebble]

huh? warframe is looong from dead

[frozen kernel]

Warframe has ups and downs

Everyone just forgets that the game is alive most of the time

[leaden pebble]

its had like 40-50k concurrent for several years

on steam

[spare dome]

i make those dudes coffee

[frozen kernel]

It's one of those games like Path of Exile that you need to have already sunk 6+ years of your life into it for it to be worth anything anymore

[ember yew]

soulframe waiting room here

[leaden pebble]

poe takes wayyyy more investment than warframe

[frozen kernel]

Ironically I can't stand grind

[sterile stone]

[frozen kernel]

And yet here I am playing DT lol

[ember yew]

but soulframe looks really rough rn, probably another 2+ years cooking

[frozen kernel]

But that's just because I like the combat. The gear and loot is just kinda secondary for me in this game

[sterile stone]

Still waiting on any news of Blight

Hoping it isn't The Day Before scam

[frozen kernel]

I like Diablo for being Diablo. I can't just go get that from PoE and D4 is trash so I'm just playing Titan Quest

[ember yew]

That one was amazing

[leaden pebble]

warframe was fun for ~400 hours for me
then i reached peak power and got mostly everything i wanted, decked out all my frames in fashion and i was about done

[ember yew]

lasted around 700 hours for me around 5 years ago (didnt play much after that)

[frozen kernel]

Warframe was fun to try but when I played way way back in the day, it was so much grinding to get orikin cells and shit for crafting that I just lost interest

Mag Prime was so much fun just crushing entire rooms

[sterile stone]

Most wishlisted game on steam btw

[frozen kernel]

Multiple rooms away

[leaden pebble]

i love mesa

[sterile stone]

It's funny cause most people knew the game was a scam

And people still bought it

Just shows you can't fix dumb

[leaden pebble]

oh and harrow
mesa and harrow prime my beloved

[ember yew]

i knew it would be a scam and watched some big streamers on release

it was hilarious

[frozen kernel]

A guy at work once told me, "There's operations for ugly, you can't fix stupid." and I've used it ever since

[spare dome]

but if i dont buy into the scam how can i earn the right to complain about being scammed?

[sterile stone]

I don't see how a big name company doesn't look at something like this and try to capitalize on it

[nimble fiber]

[sterile stone]

Like there's clearly a market for a open world zombie game with TLOU/Division vibe

[leaden pebble]

i reinstalled warframe on valentines just to get the wings and make an ultrakill enraged gabriel outfit for harrow lmao

[frozen kernel]

I don't see how big name companies can put out shit that would literally print money if they actually put any money into it

[sterile stone]

And no one is cashing in on the idea

[frozen kernel]

Looking at you Red Dead 2 Online

[placid fiber]

That's a great quote, lol

[frozen kernel]

Looking at you World's Adrift

LOOKING AT YOU GUNS OF ICARUS

[leaden pebble]

this just makes me sad

rockstar makes banger games but their post-launch is some of the worst

[frozen kernel]

I don't know how they created an amazing singleplayer that reignited feelings of emotion in men across the world, looked at their success with GTA Online, and went "Yeah we're not doing that again"

Like they HAD players to play online if it was only ready and not shit

[north sedge]

i would consider gta online's success even to be an accident that they just ended up investing into when it exploded

[leaden pebble]

idk how people still buy money in gtao

its insane

[frozen kernel]

Most people have still dropped GTA:O in favor of FiveM because the online is just actual cancer now

So Rockstar literally just dropped their fuckin spaghetti

Now they have no rabbits

[leaden pebble]

its been cancer for years

the first few were fun, not p2w and actually player time friendly

[jagged aspen]

what specifically does auric modify about regular missions?

[spare dome]

all the enemies have big swingin' dicks

[frozen kernel]

I think yachts were the last good update, but still on the decline to the end

[leaden pebble]

the worst tho are destiny 2 and gacha games

[frozen kernel]

After that it was just business after business after business and nothing changed

Destiny 2 just didn't respect my time

[frosty herald]

Gta online is the best thing to happen to rockstar but the worst to players

[opaque island]

oh my god i never thought i would find another mag prime enjoyer in the wild

[leaden pebble]

destiny 1 was incredible
the first year of destiny 2 was also really good
but after, dear lord

[jagged aspen]

https://tenor.com/view/destiny-2-nighthawk-nighthawrt-hawk-bird-gif-1041577677798248541

[south folio]

basically the period where spawns last is longer

[spare dome]

and their erections

[jagged aspen]

i thought so

[south folio]

auric maelstroms are also always hi intensity, whereas the normal maelstrom is always normal intensity

[frozen kernel]

We used to do a lil trolling with bow mag

I strived to become nasty with it to offset the poor expectations people had

[frozen kernel]

I left when they "vaulted" all of the expansions that I'd paid for, leaving me unable to run through the old story content that was better than the garbage they were putting out

[leaden pebble]

yep

they also vy for all of your time

[frozen kernel]

The worst part?

The part that stings the most

[clear knot]

i fucking hatre destiny 2

[frozen kernel]

They have the technology to do what the Halo MCC did on Steam

[leaden pebble]

idk why games gotta do that nowadays with battle passes, limited time content, fomo all that shit
destiny 2 is the worst offender

[calm salmon]

most sane destiny 2 player o7

[frozen kernel]

You could just manually install the full campaigns you want, just keep the meshes and models for any weapons

[opaque island]

I never got THAT far into it, was way too grindy, i just loved pressing mag crush and everything in the room getting crushed to a pulp

[clear knot]

any high lvl destiny player hates the fucking game if they dont theyre boot licking sry

[frozen kernel]

That way anyone who REALLY didn't want to play Red War again could uninstall all the voice lines, music, and planets taking up their sweet hard drive space

[clear knot]

using hate loosely here but yah

[calm salmon]

Seems like any game with a huge grind wall has that same aspect

Warframe, World of Tanks, Warthunder, EFT - just to name a few off the top of my head

[sterile stone]

The despair in seeing people pay for shark cards when there's a new exploit to make millions like every other week.

[frosty herald]

Like 5k cheaters just dropping free millions

[leaden pebble]

warframe is at least very player friendly and transparent, and has basically zero fomo

[spare talon]

I think destiny 2s battle pass isn't terrible
Bear in mind, I only said battle pass, I didn't say anything else
My justification is that it basically comes alongside actual content and has plenty of genuinely useful stuff in it

[frozen kernel]

The fact that they took out Forsaken right before a big expansion with a character that people only give a shit about because HE KILLED OUR FAVORITE CHARACTER IN THAT EXPANSION was some wild thinking

New players just like "Who the fuck is this Crow guy?"

[calm salmon]

Warframe has [Scheduled FOMO] which isn't the same thing as [No FOMO]

[leaden pebble]

you could stop playing warframe for 5 years and miss absolutely nothing, everything that came out in those 5 years are for you to get and play

[calm salmon]

it's an important distinction to make.

Things come in and out rotation all the time in Warframe

which is explicitly FOMO

[frosty herald]

I experienced destiny 2 before they took away the europa introduction red war and warmind

[sterile stone]

[frozen kernel]

Warframe has at least been overhauled so much over the years, it's not even the same game I played anymore

[calm salmon]

But, like my specification, it's "Scheduled"

so its less problematic than shit like Darktide

[leaden pebble]

its not perfect but its leagues better than things becoming unobtainable forever

[calm salmon]

where the premium store is like "You'll never see this skin again"

[leaden pebble]

like most battle passes and shit that force you to play all the time

[frozen kernel]

I will be the first to say I'm impressed with how far Warframe has come and how it's kept up, I just still look at it as totally unapproachable

[spare talon]

You're not paying for the battle pass, you are getting alongside the content you're paying for
Disregarding whether that content is actually worth it

[frosty herald]

Destiny 2 actualy changed its battlepass prices

[placid fiber]

My wife told me to fuck off cause I said her favorite place to eat was subway lol

[calm salmon]

While I think Arrowhead has a multitude of issues as a game development company, they've done alright with their warbond system in Helldivers 2.

[frosty herald]

So the silver rewards arent enough

[calm salmon]

I still think the premium shop is a little scummy, but whatever.

It's at least cheap

[frosty herald]

And your always buying the 15 dollar version of silver because it costs 12 dollars in silver

[spare talon]

Waframe has one of the worst introductions to its game but investing the time needed to get a handle of it is like unlocking a treasure trove

[leaden pebble]

armor sets in helldivers are like $3 worth of credits
and the warbond system is actually one of the best ways they couldve done it

[spare talon]

Like I bet yall didn't even know warframe has a fighting game in it

[sterile stone]

Less actually.

[leaden pebble]

say what you want about the game but the monetization is a breath of fresh air

[calm salmon]

Yeah, my issues with HD2 are Arrowhead's inability to make a game that's well balanced.

[frosty herald]

Deticate 1 hour to farming and youve gotten the warbond for no money

[sterile stone]

Like some armor sets are worth at most like a $1.50

[calm salmon]

Which, fine, you can excuse that as a divergence from their normal gameplay loop creating all new issues

[sterile stone]

If you cared to spend the money

[frozen kernel]

The premium shop is pretty much what everyone asked for cosmetics to be so I never understood the flak they got. It's just cosmetics. None of the effects on the armors can't also be found on stuff you can get from the warbonds.

[calm salmon]

I just hate things that rotate on principle

life is too short for that shit

quit abusing dopamine loops

[frozen kernel]

The rotation hate I can get behind

[leaden pebble]

i also dont like rotating shops that force you to look at it and get it before an end date

[frosty herald]

Buying super credits is just supporting the devs

[frozen kernel]

I thought DT was just going to have pages but nope, rotations

RIP anyone that never got a chance to buy the Krieg shit

[leaden pebble]

new players:

(me)

[sterile stone]

I didn't feel like grinding

[frosty herald]

You can get everything for free in hd2

I respect that greatly

[sterile stone]

You can

[leaden pebble]

ive bought out most shop rotations and have all warbonds without explicitly grinding for credits and $0

[frosty herald]

Except those narcs that complain about people farminv credits

[north sedge]

I have gotten all of it free just by playing

[spare talon]

They won't quit until it stops making them the most money cuz dipshits keep buying into it

[frozen kernel]

That's something I've really come into as an adult who's time is consumed by work. If I want to throw $5 at a game for a skin so I can begin my journey looking cooler than you, you can stay mad lol

[sterile stone]

I remember when this game first dropped

People made a real stink about how much grinding would be involved to get everything

Just shows that people will bitch and whine about anything

[frozen kernel]

I've come to accept the small microtransactions. Obviously I don't fuck with that "Too expensive for the $10 pack but the $20 gives you too much currency" game a lot of devs like to play but honestly, skins don't bother me anymore

Even the Battlefield shortcuts

[leaden pebble]

like is a rotating shop still kinda shitty? yes
but is the monetization leagues better than literally 98% of games on the market today? also yes

live-service + player time/money friendly is not a very common combination whatsoever

[frozen kernel]

If there's a kid who became a dad in his mid 20's and he just lost the ability to play video games for more than maybe a single hour a night if that, who tf cares if he buys the shortcut pack?

Let him game

[sterile stone]

The line should be drawn at shit like BSG charging $250 to play a pve mode to get basically what equates to free gear since you can endleslly farm bosses without intervention from cheaters or other players.

[frozen kernel]

We're all just chillin

[frozen kernel]

Yeah the Tarkov shit is hilarious

This is why I play Hunt Showdown

[leaden pebble]

the line shouldve been drawn wayy before $250 lmao

[frozen kernel]

If I ever get the itch for extraction shooters that is

I paid like $15 for Hunt on sale, bought one premium hunter for a meme, and I haven't had to spend a dime since

[calm salmon]

Like I said above, I just hate rotating content on principle.

[frozen kernel]

All their content is free, their battle pass is generous, and I don't often run into cheaters

[calm salmon]

The actual earning mechanics of HD2 is at least respectable.

[frozen kernel]

Meanwhile there was that Tarkov video floating around where the guy downloaded wallhacks and jiggled at like 3 other cheaters through walls every game

[sterile stone]

You're never gonna get a fully ethical company

You don't make big money being ethical

Unfortunately.

[frozen kernel]

Eh

[frosty herald]

Arrowhead doesnt have that issue

[leaden pebble]

even so hunt is kinda bad
they heavily reduced the amount of premium currency you get, so it’d take months of doing challenges to get one skin

[frozen kernel]

Among Us did pretty well and I don't think that girl hurt anybody on the way up

[frosty herald]

Cause theyre a playstation studio

Imagine if hd2 was ps5 exclusive lmao

[frozen kernel]

Game would've died on impact

[north sedge]

No?

[leaden pebble]

definitely not

[sterile stone]

Console exclusives are about the dumbest thing a game company can do at times.

It cuts off a additional source of revanue

[north sedge]

It's immensely popular on both platforms

[frozen kernel]

I'm happy they got bankrolled by Sony because otherwise we'd have not gotten a game but if HD2 was PS5 exclusive it wouldn't have had nearly as much of a religious fervour online

[calm salmon]

In any case, my main complaints with HD2, and to a degree its shared with Darktide(though this has been getting better over time), is the overall "Shotgun Effect" of balance.

kinda feels like they're throwing darts at a wall and seeing where it lands. It's just. . . not consistent enough to feel like there's a group of people dedicated to it.

That said, patch next week for HD2 that includes fixes for the Airburst RPG-7, and I'm sure other things too(It's confirmed that the Spear lock-on is fixed on internal dev builds now, just waiting for that to be shipped to live)

[frozen kernel]

People were already pissed that Xbox players couldn't join us, if it was only Playstation it might've actually helped to end exclusivity

[leaden pebble]

arrowheads balancing is..interesting

nerfing the arc thrower was just kinda “bruh”

[frozen kernel]

I've never understood how they have people with finanical and marketing degrees who can't explain this to them

[calm salmon]

They nerfed hulks and it made people who used the arc thrower better at managing heavy enemies against bugs.

So. . . I get where they came from with the mechanical changes to arc thrower

[spare talon]

Flashback to that recent piracy software short (yeah that guy that won't leave your youtube homepage as of the last few months) who said a wow mount cosmetic made significantly more money than an entire starcraft 2 dlc
Literally tried and true to just make expensive cosmetic microtransaction than actual game content so why would they do anything else if they had the choice

[calm salmon]

Doesn't mean it feels great, but I get it.

[sterile stone]

I'm guessing the idea is like how they do with games like the last of us

Make a successful game

People buy the console to play said game

[frozen kernel]

The short term money you make with the exclusivity deal is almost never going to balance out with the long time revenue from releasing the game across all consoles...unless you expect your game to be shit

[sterile stone]

Profit?

[frozen kernel]

It is just profit

[leaden pebble]

bloodborne alone probably still makes sony a load of money just from people buying a console to play it lmao

[frozen kernel]

It doesn't have to make the most money, it just has to make a certain amount of money in its release window or by the end of the fiscal quarter

They don't care if games die

[frosty herald]

Everytime square enix says a game underpreforms its ALWAYS on ps5

[frozen kernel]

That's why Ross from Accursed Farms is currently pushing internationally for legislation concerning companies just killing off games

You can argue "Well you buy most online games with the expectation that they'll die one day" but I think that's missing the point

[frosty herald]

Did you hear ubisoft lawyers tried to blackmail the stop killing games dude

[spare talon]

Square Enix said neo twewy, a sequel to a niche ds game from 2007 that was made fucking 15 years after underperformed because the game didnt sell as much as the ff7 remake

[frosty herald]

There were allegations thrown around of him being a groomer

[frozen kernel]

It's the fact that so many games can just be ol' yellered at the company's behest

Lol really?

[calm salmon]

This has been an issue for longer than I'm sure some people have been alive on this server

Battlefield 2 is the easiest example

[frozen kernel]

Ross has been in Poland eating beans since like 2009 because it was cheaper than living in the US on machinima money

[frozen kernel]

Don't say this name to me

[north sedge]

Square famously sets absurdly high expectations

[frozen kernel]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-cry-spongebob-squarepants-gif-13191010122088454973

[frosty herald]

Yup

[calm salmon]

Like I said, a problem that has existed longer than some people on this server

[frosty herald]

He doesnt have a discord server for tge campaign so there isnt any flak hes getting from server issues

[frozen kernel]

Just because it has been a problem doesn't mean it can't finally be addressed though

[frosty herald]

https://youtu.be/Jezi1bE4xvc?si=RgPxmgrlRgyt_E3b

Pr firm tries to find blackmail by going into an unnoficial campaign server

[frozen kernel]

Do you have a time stamp?

It's a half hour of Ross ranting lol

[frosty herald]

Nope

[frozen kernel]

F

[frosty herald]

Theres a timestamp guy in the comments

[leaden pebble]

i am so bloody lucky
just spilt water on my keyboard, instantly unplugged it and pulled some caps off, and was instantly relieved none got into my board

[sterile stone]

Butter fingers

This is what despair looks like

[ivory marlin]

argus

if you had to pick

human fall flat or sunset overdrive

[shy river]

I remember I got a mail warning from my ISP for downloading need for speed most wanted from an abandonware site despite it not being available on any online store for at least 10 years. Publishers are fucking stupid almost all of the time

[sterile stone]

I've never played human fall flat

And Sun Set overdrive was great game

[ivory marlin]

ok ill get that one

[sterile stone]

I hope you aren't getting it with the intent to play mp

That shit is dead

[ivory marlin]

mp?

im getting it with the intent of its a game under 10$

[maiden path]

no vpn

your fault

if what your downloading illegally came out in the past 10-15ish years i'd use a vpn

[frozen kernel]

Me when my ISP sent me a mail warning for downloading Hot Wheels Bash Arena

[ivory marlin]

guys i just remembered the name of the skateboarding game i played as a child but you cant get it on pc >:(

[paper pine]

i swear to god

[frozen kernel]

Sunset Overdrive all the way. Human Fall Flat is fun with friends but it kinda dies if you're solo because then you're just solving janky physics problems by yourself

[frozen kernel]

Imagining you just clinging to that pipe waiting for Masozi to make a crazy pickup

[ivory marlin]

i had enough for both so i got both

[frozen kernel]

Overdrive actually wasn't on PC for a while

[ivory marlin]

really?

[frozen kernel]

The port was a lil rough but it's just such a fun game

Started out as an Xbox exclusive

However over the last few years Microsoft has actually been doing good work porting basically all of their console games to PC and making sure future releases come out on both

I really hate to say it but Sony has always been the bad guy in the console wars

They've fought against crossplay, they've historically charged more, and now they're bogarding their exclusives because they think nobody will ever buy a playstation if Bloodborne releases on PC

Oh but we got that shitty collection of Uncharted games

[ivory marlin]

best character customization ever

[shy river]

sans from super smash bros

[spare talon]

My favorite earthbound character

[ivory marlin]

guys is his left eye blue or his right eye

i forgor

[sterile stone]

Beans

[spare talon]

Someday they'll realize that everyone who wants to play bloodborne and is willing to buy a ps to do so already has

[ivory marlin]

i made him better

[spare talon]

Porting it to pc at this point is literally where they'd make more money cuz people who've already played it would buy it again, and people who didn't wanna buy a ps for it would buy it

[frozen kernel]

It's one of the few times where you actually can expect people to buy the game a second time

[tardy cave]

skyrim is the perfect example of that

that shit was re-released like 4 times

[frozen kernel]

Especially if they pull a Demons Souls and just buckle down on a remake

^^

I was just about to mention Skyrim

Released across 3 different console generations

[tardy cave]

and then the ridiculous remasters of the last of us

[frozen kernel]

Transcended home consoles and handhelds

Dread it, run from it, Skyrim still arrives

[tardy cave]

last of us 2 released almost 4 years ago and its already been remastered

[maiden path]

lost but damn if I didnt have that shit on fr

opium fit

[ripe quest]

It's more of a sidegrade. It stunlocks Hulks now and can stagger Chargers.

Plus it got the increased arcing module, which is nice.

[leaden pebble]

ah i see, well i never took it for big targets anyway

[ripe quest]

It's very good, 7 AP and is 250 damage. Can bypass the range through arcing as well, since it's the limit for the first hit and not the cone.

[maiden path]

whats the strat to get the blessing you want for reblessing

[leaden pebble]

ive been loving the eruptor/stalwart combo for bugs
and eruptor/railgun for bots

havent played in a week or so tho

[ripe quest]

if you're just farming blessings iirc the process is upgrade to blue, swap the blessing to a T4 you don't want, then upgrade to orange. Ideally you max out the total modifier as you upgrade for the best chances at a T4 2nd blessing.

[zinc talon]

running eruptor/laspistol/quasar or spear myself

[ripe quest]

laspistol

[zinc talon]

if the team chemistry is there I can run 7s without dying about half the time

[leaden pebble]

oh and ive been using the nade pistol
is very nice

[zinc talon]

laspistol is a tough mudder paired with the eruptor

[leaden pebble]

i play 9 bugs and 7 bots usually

[median steeple]

Watching people complain that the airburst launcher isn't good at taking out armor

[zinc talon]

can reach across the map to help squaddies if they're getting swarmed

[ripe quest]

I'd love it if they gave the GL Pistol ammo economy that's better than a RL. RR and Airburst getting 3/2 rockets per and GL getting 2/1 is a crime

[zinc talon]

and can get you outta getting swarmed yourself too

[leaden pebble]

airburst launcher? did they add new stuff?

since the warbond i mean

[ripe quest]

yee. Anti-tank mines and Airburst rocket launcher. It's part of the major order.

[leaden pebble]

oh my god this looks fucking RIDICULOUS and i need it now

[ripe quest]

I've been testing them for a while and the Airburst is mega teamwipe material since it procs on anything, AT mines are great for Chargers and Hulks.

[median steeple]

Once they fix the prox issue that thing is stuck to me

Love it so much

[zinc talon]

it just needs a minimum distance fuse

like real rpg munitions have

[leaden pebble]

its an instant cluster bomb
it looks like the perfect "fuck you, die" weapon and i love it

[zinc talon]

an rpg45 won't arm itself until it's travelled a hundred feet from the launcher or something like that

so if you fire it into the ground it just whumps

[ripe quest]

Heavy Armor with ER doesn't survive it too, very funny

[ripe quest]

Well that wouldn't be efficient for democracy spreading if the enemy is near, now would it?

[zinc talon]

bringing this to a mission that isn't in a desert or glacier flat is 100% troll energy

because it triggers on knee high shrubs

much less trees or boulders

[median steeple]

Shrubs are the bane of a lot of weapons

Makes.me.sad

[zinc talon]

heh last night a squaddie was maining the las cannon and to great effect

they'd sweep it to clear foliage for the team to see

among all the other stuff you do with it when you're doing well

[ripe quest]

It'll proc on most entities, so like ammo and samples. Also physics objects. Of course if it hits something it'll pop too but if you know what to look for it's reliable.

[maiden path]

this will have to do untill i get power cycker 4

[zinc talon]

that was a big whoament for me

[maiden path]

sighe

[leaden pebble]

mildly unrelated but i love how you can actually have offtopic conversations in this server and mods dont come swooping in if you mention anything other than darktide, unlike a lot of other official servers

[slow stag]

whats the bis evis

[maiden path]

@spare talon what should i rip off this

[ripe quest]

because our mods aren't pricks ig. Darktide has a very spaced out update schedule and if we were forced to talk about Darktide the server would shed people.

[north sedge]

If i had a dime for everytime some jerk wandered in here and getting angry we aren't talking about zealot...

[ripe quest]

We have a weapon setup guide in pins. Mk II it's Savage + Rampage/Shred and on the XV it's Rampage + anything but Rev It Up, Bloodletter, and Perfect Strike. Perks are generally Flak + Maniac/Elites/Unyielding with situationally Cara.

[leaden pebble]

as someone who was a regular in hunt's official server for ~6 months im just gonna say im happy i dont talk there anymore lmao

[sterile stone]

You haven't seen the unofficial helldivers discord before it got nuked

[south folio]

there is surely much to say about darktide that hasn't been said yet

[ripe quest]

Also this chat in the past was a bit worse, esp during the holiday arc for Fatshark and back at launch. The former did get mods a bit involved.

[sterile stone]

That place was a wasteland

[south folio]

ah fuck mankar has joined my strike team

wtf

[north sedge]

just remember the last time i was here for someone pulling this, they got everyone to talk about dt by posting their garbage build and getting pissed that we said it was bad

[median steeple]

Like lawless or wild

[leaden pebble]

ohh yeah that was uh
not good lmao

[sterile stone]

Remember launch darktide

[median steeple]

Ohno

[sterile stone]

It was like that

Only less moderated

It got so bad a mod nuked the entire cord

[north sedge]

worse...i remember beta darktide

https://tenor.com/view/gto-eikichi-onizuka-freak-fear-scream-gif-21258681

[median steeple]

Ah I see it was glassed for the good of humanity

[median steeple]

CBT dark tide was something

[ripe quest]

rn this chat is probs like 20% unrelated w/ a 40/40 split of Darktide and other game chatting.

[north sedge]

the day before the beta started was just an onslaught of douchery

[spare talon]

Shred
Devastating strike is kinda bad

[royal vortex]

as it should be

[leaden pebble]

i will say my experiences with 40k fans before the tide games are awful lmao

[royal vortex]

the crusher guide has been updated

no i will not purchase more crushers

[north sedge]

dont worry there's bad ones that pop up sometimes

mister stinkiest winkies

[median steeple]

Most of the weirdos are online thankfully but the people in real life are chill most of the time

[royal vortex]

im going to hurt you

[median steeple]

Color me shocked when the scum of society don't interact with the rest in face to face convos

[north sedge]

will you write a digital note to yourself to think about if you'll purchase more crushers perhaps in the future

[royal vortex]

this is an acceptable compromise

[leaden pebble]

they should
cause eventually they'll talk shit to the wrong person

[median steeple]

Bring back shaming people for breaking the social contract

[shy river]

but mah safe trade routes tho it totally makes up for all the slavery and rape

[sterile stone]

https://tenor.com/view/dumpster-man-throw-out-trash-gif-14761446

[median steeple]

God bless President Kimball and the republic

[sterile stone]

I'm honestly glad some of the insane shit I see online

I never see in person

Let's me know most of the shit you see is most of the time very niche instances of people being crazy

[maiden path]

what eyes

so dreamy

[median steeple]

Peeping Tom over here

[leaden pebble]

true
at least round here most people are generally open-minded and friendly in person

[median steeple]

The femstodes shit has been hilarious

A lot of people who comply about it aren't even a part of the fandom

[maiden path]

WHAT THE FUCK

LMAO

THERES LIKE 8 BULWARKS

[median steeple]

How spongbobs does it take to kill khorne

[maiden path]

this isnt even auric

[median steeple]

Bro those are crushers

[sterile stone]

Mans having a stronk

[median steeple]

You are going to die

[sterile stone]

Call a bondulance

[median steeple]

I'm fucked beyond belief

Still recovering from yesterday

[north sedge]

only stuff i've seen irl is hyper religious weirdos thinking pokemon are demons

[sterile stone]

Didn't you do exams like last week

[north sedge]

or that obama is literally lucifer

[median steeple]

Yes

[north sedge]

(thanks random coworkers for all the entertainment)

[sterile stone]

This was litterally the reason I never go to play MGS as a kid

Aunt saw the cover

Convinced my mom it was about Satanism

[spare talon]

The fucking soul part lmao

[sterile stone]

Litterally a year later

There I am

[north sedge]

cardboard boxes are blasphemous after all

[sterile stone]

Playing vice city

Fucken early 2000s man

[north sedge]

yea that's a much more wholesome game

[leaden pebble]

my family outside of my parents are literally like this

[north sedge]

"spy thriller about how war is bad and the military industrial complex is bad" or "lets make a drug empire in 80s miami" pretty tough call morally

[leaden pebble]

my uncle is a red pilled conspiracy tiktok addict

[sterile stone]

Tik tok addict

What a horrible combination of words

[north sedge]

i had a coworker who was like 19 and believed pokemon were demons, i convinced him i was in a satantic pact with pikachu that was deeply sexual

also that pikachu was a dude

so it was gay

[median steeple]

Man people say gen alpha is cooked but won't look at their parents

[royal vortex]

goals

[sterile stone]

Josh wants to be a Satanic gay furry

Confirmed

[median steeple]

Pikachu serves the dark lord

[royal vortex]

sounds way more interesting than what i currently am

[north sedge]

i also told a bunch of people that this dude's safe word in bdsm was "kumquat"

[sterile stone]

I

Have no processing

What is a kumquat

[median steeple]

What a strange word

[north sedge]

lol

it's a fruit

[sterile stone]

From where?

Is it like a mango?

[median steeple]

IDK from somewhere hot

[sterile stone]

Okay

Hear me out when I say this right

So you know how beaches n shit are hot right

[median steeple]

It's a fucking Australia orange

[sterile stone]

If you open a pineapple

[north sedge]

they're tiny citrus

[sterile stone]

Why is it not hot on the inside

if you pluck it from the tree and open it

[north sedge]

they grow around here in cali

too

[sterile stone]

These look appetizing

Something you'd feed a lemur

[median steeple]

I mean yeah citrus fruits are peak

Also lemons aren't natural

[north sedge]

they are very small yes

bite size

[sterile stone]

You ever tried a blood orange

[median steeple]

I think the bot would kill the Australian version of it's name

Cumquat

Nope there it is

[north sedge]

yes

[median steeple]

I love community notes so much

[spare talon]

I like the one that's like "what is wrong with my dog" with an image of a cat and the community notes just say "That is a cat."

[sterile stone]

Twitter is wild with engagement farms

Just posting the dumbest shit

[median steeple]

It's some of the best comedy I've seen

Yeah community notes removes all monetization from a tweet if it gets noted

[faint vapor]

somehow, Twitter isn't even the worse social media

[sterile stone]

https://tenor.com/view/weekend-party-champagne-gif-18280013

Stupid people not getting monetized

Love to see it

[faint vapor]

Facebook appears to be overun with bots

[sterile stone]

People still use facebook?

[spare talon]

Dead internet theoru

[median steeple]

IDK if this is true but apparently 40% of internet traffic was bots last year

[north sedge]

Old people

[sterile stone]

[sterile stone]

It's all over

The machines are winning

The terminators will be upon us soon

[north sedge]

yea but its just shitty chatbots

spouting vaguely racist things or hitting on paintings of women

[sterile stone]

For me it was just videos of animals

Like

You ever seen a dwarf giraffe

Shits weird

[maiden path]

whats

the torrent

'the torrent'

[median steeple]

Smallraffe

[north sedge]

the place where it rains pisswater everywhere

[maiden path]

thats seattle

[north sedge]

nah, san francisco

[sterile stone]

England?

[north sedge]

that's just warm beer

[spare dome]

well youtube alone is roughly 90% of internet traffic

[maiden path]

wtf do i have 2300 of???

OH

THOSE ARE MELKS

ignore that

@spare talon yo what should I add to this?

[median steeple]

The transfer from game pass to steam stole some of his mind

[maiden path]

i think you told me but i forgor

[frosty herald]

the torrent is obv chiraq

[north sedge]

hmmm was there one?

[maiden path]

https://tenor.com/view/luka-lukabigpants-bigpants-luka-gun-lukabigpants-gun-gif-4156064416832558471

[sterile stone]

Level 30 and your pockets out here in the struggle phase

That is, tragic.

[maiden path]

i still have WEAPONS TO GET

I AM NOT META'D UP

LIKE THE REST OF YOU

weak men create hard times (u hard weak men)

[sterile stone]

I'm not meta tho

[maiden path]

hard times create strong men (me)

[sterile stone]

Bro got the financial stabability of Zimbabwe

[north sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/zuck-zuckerberg-mark-zuckerberg-meta-metaverse-gif-23714752

[maiden path]

but i aint missing no drip

[sterile stone]

Lookin like a Christmas sock.

I'm disgusted.

[maiden path]

sometimes it hurts being this swag

https://tenor.com/view/my-honest-reaction-my-reaction-honest-robert-pattinson-gif-27691114

[sterile stone]

Someone

Take the aux cord from this man

[maiden path]

i still find it weird no one comments on the psyker talking about the emperor

belovd

[sterile stone]

They do

[maiden path]

nuh uh

proof

[sterile stone]

Like professional vet specifically has a line addressing it

[maiden path]

opium ahh fit

i wish these pants didnt have the giant fuckoff boots

[spare dome]

i hate those boots

[frosty herald]

ngl beb

you really are broke as fuck

no offense

[spare dome]

yea lemme stomp around in massive metal blocks

[maiden path]

once again

[spare dome]

so ergonomic and comfy

[maiden path]

hated for my poverty

how can i not be broke

i have max

20 hours

on my steam save

[frosty herald]

grind normal damnation missions for a day

grind up atleast to 10k

[maiden path]

i play max like 4 missions a day for the fun of it

[faint vapor]

Poor player detected: dming Fatshark to ban you asap

[frosty herald]

i was at the same point as you

[maiden path]

i am gods most hedonistic darktide player

[frosty herald]

but i grinded and made it happen

[spare talon]

Oh is the the same one from the other day, i thought the roll looked familiar
I believe you were doing a crit build with it right? In that case, vicious to shred and unyielding to flak and it'll be pretty decent

[frosty herald]

now i have like 30k

[faint vapor]

got to have the big bucks 😎

[maiden path]

im ready for war

[spare talon]

Teehee

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046913589614747719/1233590317677285436/image.png?ex=662fa042&is=662e4ec2&hm=0c9097c24bc1aa21532b50c6c1ac2825bca4fb93880dfee24b7bc089aa54c93a&

[faint vapor]

Diamantine best UwU

[spare talon]

Is your build with this the same one I gave you the bones for?

The one with 6 points to put wherever you liked

[coral trellis]

Ayyyyyy

[sterile stone]

Ready for the soup kitchen*

[spare talon]

Gahd damn
Do you never craft or something

Or do you archivum speedrun farm

[coral trellis]

Sometimes. Got most of what I need already

[coral trellis]

Nah, just Auric QP and Maelstrom

[spare talon]

How many hours tho
I'm at around 1.4k

[maiden path]

hyuh

woriks great

[misty mason]

it looks like your mum dressed you and took that photo

[maiden path]

once again

boomers attack real fashion

[frosty herald]

Real fashion is the voice of command penance chest

[spare talon]

Real fashion is and will always be
Hobodrip

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046913589614747719/1233663499276910623/image.png?ex=662fe46a&is=662e92ea&hm=18c0367845ccc7bbefaed315536dbe2ef3f35aa4576bfcb41ffb127a4e4203a4&

[maiden path]

but when i post stinky zealot

need my zealot to look like this

[ivory marlin]

no thank you facebook marketplace i actually dont want this

[coral trellis]

I leave it on a lot so take it as a rough estimate

no mods since beta either. think vet is close to 1000 for "true level" zealot it higher though not sure how much

[leaden pebble]

holy

i have 120 on vermin and the only thing i have left to do is to finish up some missions on cata and get veteran weapons, of which the latter i couldnt care about
ill prolly hit 150ish and be done for the most part, with darktide it’ll probably be the same, maybe a bit more
that’s a lot of hours

[sterile stone]

[coral trellis]

Tried Vermintide 2. I really enjoyed the melee aspect but range was lacking for me. Never got into learning it though like DT

[leaden pebble]

fair
i main the melee only characters in vt lmao

[sterile stone]

Hear that alot

People can't adjust from darktide back to VT

[coral trellis]

I started off with vet for DT and it was fine. Played zealot after and instantly became my main

[leaden pebble]

im starting with zealot, have her at like 15 atm

[coral trellis]

Vet still fun. Learned to play better from playing zealot. Ogryn is also fun but feels casual cuz of heavy dmg but slow overall

[coral trellis]

Hah, glad I never got into then. Probably wouldn't like DT as much if I did

[leaden pebble]

i do like the automatic weapons of dt, mainly cause i blow ass at aiming and couldn’t snipe specials for shit in vt

[coral trellis]

Ah. I blame years of Counter Strike for decent aim

Probably why vet is fun

[leaden pebble]

also guns are neat
i do prefer medieval weaponry tho
..until i obtained chainsaw greatsword

[leaden pebble]

i was a big siege player back when it was still fairly new, had really good aim but those were my console days
switched to pc a couple years ago and ive never been great with a mouse

[spare talon]

Yeah my character levels are about 120, 170, 270, and 630

[spare talon]

I absolutely suck at vt2

Even when adapting to the mentality of block > dodging 75% of the time

[coral trellis]

Ah. I feel ya. I was console player until comp. Did both but saw computer better than console overall. Never liked changing the sensitivity for analog stick

[coral trellis]

Which one is the 120?

[austere grail]

Dodge feels way less powerful in vt2. The distance is shorter maybe?

[spare talon]

Ogryn

[coral trellis]

Psyker is my least played

[spare talon]

Vet, psyker, zealot in the order I listed

[leaden pebble]

i was sort of ignorant and never really looked into pcs cause of the “sell a kidney for a decent system” stereotype
until i bit the bullet and built my own

and it’s been the greatest decision in regards to gaming ive made lmao

[coral trellis]

Zealot, Vet, Ogryn, Psyker for me. Barely got it past 30 and just knew it wasn't for me

[sterile stone]

First character I ever made was a psyker

[spare talon]

What's funny is zealot is my last character

Vet was my first

[sterile stone]

That same psyker was the last to hit level 30

Almost a year later

[coral trellis]

If only you did it sooner huh

[coral trellis]

pfft

[spare talon]

I intended my vet to be my main when I started so that's the one I named Cole
Then I made my psyker and the seer voice sounded like Asher Mir so that's what I named him

I gave my ogryn a royal name cuz funny

[leaden pebble]

real
it’s not that big a deal tho
i dont play competitive games anymore so my aim being shit isn’t really a problem usually

[coral trellis]

At the very least, glad I played all the classes so I have and idea of the strengths/weakness of classes and the idea of playstyle

Honestly can play with rondos and already tell if they going to be decent or if I have to carry

[spare talon]

And I ran out of ideas for zealot who I decided to make the diversity hire
So I chose female character with the least used voice at the time and just named her after the first character that came to mind

[leaden pebble]

running into a group of 3 ogryns making grunt noises in voice makes me really want to do the same lmao

[coral trellis]

I miss competitive games for the shit talking bragging rights. I hate it now though cuz ppl talk shit just to talk shit. No good sportmanship what so ever

sad really

[spare talon]

I miss meeting low level role playing ogryns
Gimme a sec and I'll send 2 clips from my favorite one

[leaden pebble]

i enjoyed them simply for getting better and rising through the ranks, like getting diamond in siege & grandmaster in for honor
i never enjoyed shit talking or toxicity, it’s usually always from some insecure asshat lmao
mainly i dont play them anymore cause its just nicer to not have to deal with other people’s bullshit

[coral trellis]

Tried to do the same. Just to have variety. Really enjoyed the different dialog from interactions with other characters. Don't really notice as my anymore cuz there is lil downtime in auric missions

[leaden pebble]

i always tried to be nice and if someone ever sent me hatemail id apologize and send them constructive criticism on why they lost lmao

unless they got racist or sum shit, then that’s just kinda sad and i report em

[coral trellis]

Oh ya of course. Always great seeing your own progress. I only shit talked to the arrogant shit stains that run there mouth. So satisfying when I dominate them and they can't say anything to back it up anymore

[leaden pebble]

that is very entertaining
stomping people who can’t stop running their mouth lmao

[coral trellis]

Mmmm

i'm all about respect. if you gonna dish it, you better be able to take it

[leaden pebble]

“1v1 me, only won cuz team”
“ok”

wins
“hacker”

[spare talon]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046913589614747719/1180795361791582320/Warhammer_40000_Darktide_replay_2023.12.03-02.53_-_Trim.mp4?ex=66300a20&is=662eb8a0&hm=c8ac7db350b1e3847e04bf9fe53dba399a249051ad8bf5de274f023ca9a841ca&

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1086442158283825202/1180797997328633886/Warhammer_40000_Darktide_replay_2023.12.03-02.53_-_Trim2.mp4?ex=66300c94&is=662ebb14&hm=9b665ac84261e30817d57a07a3ca0c6e5633446ef854bf5adb49aeb7c5024d68&

[coral trellis]

Best thing to be called

[leaden pebble]

i can count on two hands the amount of times ive been called a scripter in for honor
it’s not many, but damn its funny as hell