as long as you arent shitting over other people
#zealot-class
opaque island
median steeple
Vets were supposed to be the new kerillian but that lasted for like 2 months
And now knife zealots have taken the mantle
misty raven
Ogryn playtesting is probably the reason why friendly fire doesn't exist
minor sage
but that's the point right? If we're talking about how "this aspect of the gameplay is worse/better", having someone come in and say "WELL FOR ME IT WAS FINE BECAUSE I LIKE X" is super pointless because we are trying to apply it to a concept generically
not to someone's specific case
it's like saying "fast food is unhealthy" and someone comes in and says "well i eat fast food once a month and i'm skinny+healthy"
opaque island
but that's the point right? If we're talking about how "this aspect of the gamep...
fair point but using the word nazi is very aggressive and you're a shitty person thing to say
minor sage
it adds nothing to the point
sterile stone
Didn't someone say in the inital stages of darktide
It was just 4 veterans
Each with different abilities
but that changed early on
opaque island
it's like saying "fast food is unhealthy" and someone comes in and says "well i ...
they're still allowed to say it
my point is i guess you dont have to shit over the dude for it
minor sage
you're allowed to say whatever you want dude. but i'm also allowed to tell you you're a dumbass for saying stuff if it's stupid lol
leaden pebble
most games have single pick, and encourage you to branch out and play multiple things
that's just kinda how it goes
also if you wanted to play one character and didn't wanna run the risk of having to leave if they're picked, you could always just host
it feels like a non-issue, personally
like as i leveled sienna to 30 i didnt have any frustration you speak of, nor did any of the friends i play it with
and my duo is an elf only kinda player
leaden pebble
you're allowed to say whatever you want dude. but i'm also allowed to tell you y...
you could call me a dumbass
but that's less constructive than a polite conversation
opaque island
you're allowed to say whatever you want dude. but i'm also allowed to tell you y...
you can say that without insulting the other person
minor sage
yes, and having it be that your "duo" can't play what he/she wants to play
it objectively worse gameplay
than having it be that your duo can play whatever he/she wants to play
this is like 1+1=2
in terms fo game design
north sedge
leaden pebble
im saying they never had this problem
and they're a 35+200 something kerillian, saltz maybe at 30
it may be an improvement but i don't think vermin's single pick is as big of an issue as you make it out to be
fleet zealot
🍿
leaden pebble
there are easy workarounds if you don't want to play someone else
median steeple
minor sage
im saying they never had this problem
and they're a 35+200 something kerillian, ...
It isnt that big of an issue lol
But it is a part of the gameplay
Where darktide does better
Objectively
Because you can play what you want
Without limitations
Just like how in darktide, not having the character interactions of vermintide isnt a big issue
fleet zealot
people forget both games had shit launches and had to be fixed up 
Can't wait till the next tide game comes out and everyone goes "why can't this be more like darktide..."
opaque island
but you get more character and flavor out of the limitations because the characters can be deeper, its subjective not objective
minor sage
But vt is objectively better in that regards
sterile stone
people forget both games had shit launches and had to be fixed up <:KEKW_ogryn:1...
I don't think there will be another darktide
minor sage
Because due to the nature of locked characters, they can create more interactions
fleet zealot
but yea, darktide literally encourages you to play with more than one build, you have much better talents
sterile stone
Just additions to this
minor sage
And spend more effort on it
fleet zealot
I don't think there will be another darktide
i said another tide game, ie greentide or aostide or whatever other tide
Sharktide
median steeple
I hope if there is another 40k tidegame we have actual characters
minor sage
but you get more character and flavor out of the limitations because the charact...
My guy
minor sage
Are u seriously trying to argue
sterile stone
A 40k fast food sim
median steeple
Rodriguez
fleet zealot
I hope if there is another 40k tidegame we have actual characters
rodriguez, the heretics have the burgertide
median steeple
That limitations of character is a good thing in terms of gameplay
Depends on the game
sterile stone
opaque island
That limitations of character is a good thing in terms of gameplay
no, i just disagree that its Objective there are reasons for liking one over the other
leaden pebble
single pick is a subjective topic, yeah
sterile stone
Rodriguez protect the burgertide
minor sage
Depends on the game
We're taking vt to dt
fleet zealot
A 40k fast food sim
McCorpseStarch
north sedge
I am the arbiter of all that is objective and here is my decree: vt2 is a game, and dt is a game too.
sterile stone
I am the arbiter of all that is objective and here is my decree: vt2 is a game, ...
The Englishman speaks
Let it be known
fleet zealot
Maybe because I had many negative experiences with Vt2, despite it being a great game, I don't want dt to become more like vt2
i want DT to get finished
median steeple
We're taking vt to dt
Yeah exactly it works for VT but not for Dark tide since a lot of systems are fundamentally different
minor sage
Vt has better dialogue, lore etc because of it, but dt has objectively better gameplay on the specific topic of single pick
Right
median steeple
^
opaque island
Vt has better dialogue, lore etc because of it, but dt has objectively better ga...
i can agree with this
good debate
fleet zealot
crafting sucks in vt2 and I'm tired of pretending it doesn't, even now besides modifier scores crafting is better in DT
i'm not stuck with swift slaying and stam/block meta
fleet zealot
leaden pebble
Vt has better dialogue, lore etc because of it, but dt has objectively better ga...
yep, i can agree there
i personally, in my opinion prefer vt2 because the lines and characters create more immersion and attachment to the game, so i end up enjoying it more
and thats my final take
leaden pebble
i do love darktide tho, and my enjoyment has skyrocketed at my obtainment of funny chainsaw greatsword
maiden path
10 POINTS
maiden path
i do love darktide tho, and my enjoyment has skyrocketed at my obtainment of fun...
ERM TRY THE DICKSWORD
uhh
parry sword
fleet zealot
The voice lines haven't bothered me so much because I mained elf and if i had a nickel for everytime i'd hear hogger's bridge
i'd lose it
north sedge
did you say hoggers bridge?
leaden pebble
a regiment went missing on that bridge witch
brain died
misty nova
💀
fleet zealot
At least sometimes the same voice in DT can talk to itself which is always a bit trippy
leaden pebble
oh yeah thats weird
fleet zealot
fanatic praising fanatic is just catholic girl camp
sterile stone
At least sometimes the same voice in DT can talk to itself which is always a bit...
That's a new thing
LC never use to do that
median steeple
Schizophrenia update
sterile stone
Or any other voice when it came to talking to other voices on diff players
fleet zealot
cool
sterile stone
Before hand two of the same personalities regardless of gender
couldn't interact
I know this specifically cause I had a female LC
And whenever I went on a killstreak
It was just "YOU DID GOOD"
Then silence
misty nova
Schizophrenia update
Sometimes you're the realest soldier around, gotta dap yourself up
maiden path
melk be like
'i heard u didnt want kill 1k dregs with melee'
'so heres kill 1k scabs with melee'
fleet zealot
'i heard u didnt want kill 1k dregs with melee'
it's teamwide
all your teams melee kills on dregs count for it
maiden path
it's teamwide
when the counters go up its great dat its teamwide
half the time they dont go up!!!!
maiden path
median steeple
Why does it stand like a toddler
median steeple
Like it has the posture of a kid right?
median steeple
I'll never forgive the Japanese
maiden path
they fnaf'd the kids into red pandas 😭
median steeple
Nature is wonderful
fleet zealot
the platypus should be stan's official spirit animal
median steeple
I love the story that when platypuses were first discovered no one believed the people who found them
Because the animal makes no sense
maiden path
Nature is wonderful
u aint never heard of a koala
clearly
koalas suck
all they do is eat shit, piss chlamydia and die because they eat poisonous leafs
truly gods greatest creature
median steeple
Many animals suck but nature as a system is amazing
fleet zealot
Acceleration
maiden path
me
leaden pebble
speaking of animals and creatures
snow leopard cubs are literally my favorite thing to ever exist on this planet
steel agate
Another book, gooooood
My dream is seeing a pub mission full of zealots with books, call that shit book club
open pollen
So, are some of the penances bugged? I've got one that appears to be stuck.
frozen kernel
My dream is seeing a pub mission full of zealots with books, call that shit book...
Im so fuggin close ;-;
Honestly think I could make it the rest of the way if I just cared to level my alts
But low level vet gameplay ew
ivory marlin
So, are some of the penances bugged? I've got one that appears to be stuck.
Like you cant claim them?
Thats whats been happening to me
ember yew
Which ones? So far i was able to claim all completed penances.
ivory marlin
Some auric ones and other mission completion ones
open pollen
Like you cant claim them?
This one's been stuck at 22 for me since like, day 2 of the update.
zealous basin
ivory marlin
Hi flip
nimble fiber
ornate bone
i feel like that one dont track properly
left iron
Rip bozo, died in his first battle
I swear i didnt make him tank 20 wieders with nothing but his loincloth
ember yew
a failure of a brother
left iron
Look, it was either him or my backline archers
nimble fiber
nah u good, sometimes sacrifices have to be made
left iron
It was either this guy or the funny merchant boy i grabbed off of the side of a road
nimble fiber
and unless your backline archers were all legolas, it was the correct decision
ember yew
okay
i will probably
skip 100% of pox gas missions from this point
9 people entered and quit, 7 as soon as they saw its pox gas
2 after 3-4 minutes or so
great design FS
lean lark
pox gas is the easiest modifier ever
even easier than hunting grounds
its literally just a free money modifier
faint cape
you have to shoot them
lean lark
no it isnt slow
faint cape
if you push them it does not count
lean lark
you dont need or have to wait the pox gas out
you can just keep pushing forwards rto the next safe zone and resupply then keep pushing
or have a beacon of purity zealot on your team
and make the modifier completely nonexistant
misty mason
I wonder if they had different people balance the different penances
Cause like Psyker: Kill 2500 enemies while using this aura, ally kills count
Ogryn: Kill 5000 enemies, using heavy hits, while at 5 stacks of heavy hitter
ember yew
or have a beacon of purity zealot on your team
Well, for random solo auric games this wont apply unless someone run purity 24/7 and that's definitely not me. PUGs already have a bad tendency of staying in one place for far too long, this mode makes it even worse.
And the issue of players leaving from pox gas seems to get worse day by day.
frosty herald
Erm what the sigma
zinc talon
it's the new airburst launcher
that does not trigger with enemies, only with terrain
and the individual cluster bombs do not have the same spread distance or height shot to shot
if anything comes within the trigger distance
a rock, a bush, a body part from a dead enemy
pop goes the weasel
live enemies, nope
doubt I'll be using that one again anytime soon
was the last job on our second operation together, crossed paths with a couple randos and we meshed like peas and carrots
and I do that, right before the pelican lands
not often a game makes me feel shame
but my whole face flushed up
nova dust
that does not trigger with enemies, only with terrain
the og rocket explodes, and then like 20 smaller bombs shoot out going in any direction (minimum 15 meters or smthn) and will kill or seriously injure anything they touch
zinc talon
yep but it's an airburst, so it will detonate as soon as the missile comes within 10ish meters of any piece of terrain it flies past
so if you're shooting at a guy 100m away, and there's a shrub 10 ft in front of you, you've just killed yourself
actual munitions that do this have a built in minimum arming distance to prevent this
like how the rpg45 won't explode until it's gone 100ft from the launcher tube
left iron
Free armor and noble weapon delivery 
I just gotta carve them boys out of their suits with daggers
zinc talon
I don't care that's a hammer pick he is now smoking a doobie
left iron
Warhammer But i can see what you mean
viscid moth
do stunstorm grenades still count as stun grenades for challenges?
left iron
crimson mason
the hell, my knives definitely doesnt do that, does the blessings of currently equipped weapon impact throwing knives?
north sedge
Some of em
crimson mason
just tested in the meat grinder, my throwing knife procs the rending buff from my combat knife when i headshot drastically increasing rending with the throwing knife 🤔
wicked sage
Any tips on how to get Shocking Stuff done? Seems I never stun enough mobs and it takes ages to get the flamethrower out
wicked sage
Been using an eviscerator w 200% cleave on hitting 3 or more mobs, keep trying I guess
crimson mason
is it the eviscerator that specializes in cleaving?
one eviscerator has overhead light attacks, one only has sweep light attacks
wicked sage
Mark XV with light sweeping attacks
crimson mason
hmm, should be doable, just give it a few more attempts
wicked sage
Thanks
rigid trellis
is it the eviscerator that specializes in cleaving?
mk2 evis is better for damaging more enemies per swing since the other heavy evis has a damage cap of 4 but it really depends on which you prefer
polar nexus
full zealot team, no ammo? no problem
crimson mason
i got that perk with the turtolsky heavy sword myself, stun grenade -> chastise the wicked into the stack of mobs and light cleave everything down quickly
hushed knoll
<:Smadge:1182750529563132074>
Ice why are you crying
hushed knoll
full zealot team, no ammo? no problem
Hi Doris 
clear knot
Ice is ice. He’s always crying if he’s not in a cold place. Otherwise he’s melting.
wicked sage
mk2 evis is better for damaging more enemies per swing since the other heavy evi...
Sorry not very familiar with those hidden stats. What do you mean with damage cap of 4?
I've also been wondering if 200% cleave is better than ignoring armor weight on crits
ashen pecan
basically, cleave isn't a catch all
200% cleave doesn't equate to 200% more damaged targets
next crow
a light swing will "hit" a whole bunch of targets and you'll see the flinch animation on all of them, but actually only 4 of them are taking any damage
ashen pecan
cleave is great for zealot, even damageless cuz of invocation of death
for the cleave vs perfect strike, i'm a huge fan of perfect strike personally
it also has built in cleave, though it doesn't mention it in the blessing itself
wicked sage
I see, thanks
calm salmon
https://fxtwitter.com/Helldiversmedia/status/1784311414968160584
This shit is unuseable in its current state
oh well, don't have to worry about it on the bug front
ornate bone
oh well, don't have to worry about it on the bug front
thats where ur wrong
flying buggies
calm salmon
You can literally ignore them by walking diagonally
what the fuck do I need an RPG7 for
calm salmon
In any case, I kill shrieker nests from 500+ meters away with my autocannon
fuck getting anywhere near them
ornate bone
i use quasar cannon
calm salmon
yeah I just use the autocannon for both bugs and bots
there's not a better stratagem weapon in the game
and I'm boring like that
¯_(ツ)_/¯
north sedge
clear knot
i just use 380 shield relay and quasar or marksman
because i almost NEVER have a 4th strat
ornate bone
shield if robots if bugs i use the laser turret thingie
empty quiver
Mortar sentry my beloved
calm salmon
because i almost NEVER have a 4th strat
this, among a few other things, is why I hate playing against bots
frosty herald
I use eagle airstrike railcannon walking orbital and autocannon for bots
clear knot
i mean its really not all that bad....id much rather fight bots all day then bugs
calm salmon
(The main issue is that actually fighting bots is fucking awful. If I wanted to play metal gear solid 5, I'd just go install mgs5)
ornate bone
airstrike is so gud
clear knot
tho
calm salmon
airstrike is so gud
I hope arrowhead rebalances stratagems top to bottom
I get 2 eagle 500kgs in 2:22
calm salmon
or one orbital railcannon every 4 minutes
frosty herald
The 500kg is barely usable due to its cone hitbox tho
ornate bone
ye my pee radius is higher than that
north sedge
All nerfs no buffs
calm salmon
The 500kg is barely usable due to its cone hitbox tho
literally a skill issue
frosty herald
A broken stratagem isnt a skill issue
ornate bone
wonder if they will ever fix dot dmg
north sedge
I can't believe I'm agreeing with puri on a game thing, but 500kg is good
calm salmon
Autocannon, Eagle Airstrike, Eagle 500kg, Orbital Precision Strike or Orbital Railcannon(Depending on mission modifiers)
I use that kit on both bots and bugs, up to and including helldive
calm salmon
I mostly play dif 7 in helldivers
I can beat helldive
(Beating missions isn't particularly hard though, at the end of the day)
But its just more relaxing to fuck around in dif 7
clear knot
a random joined my helldive on command bunkers last night and me and violet and another fren were fucking around p much just killin each other and he was lvl 27 and oh so confused
mint brook
So guys, opinion on chainaxes?
do they need a buff or how do they compare to chainswords and evisc?
north sedge
They're good
fossil crag
is there like any good way of doing the loner perk
ashen pecan
evis clears both
north sedge
Wrong
calm salmon
a random joined my helldive on command bunkers last night and me and violet and ...
I teamkilled some poor guy 6 times in a row on spawn a couple days ago
A bug breach popped as soon as we landed - which is usually the case
but he died to a bug
ashen pecan
chainaxe has i think 1 shot potential on crushers
calm salmon
and I kept throwing eagles on the bug breach
and he kept trying to run in to grab his weapon
north sedge
Chaxe is the best antiarmor of the chain weapons, chansword is best horde clear, evisc lands somewhere in the middle
Chaxe very easily one shots crushers
ashen pecan
idk, the effect evis has makes it by far the safest weapon type of the 3
you might not be 1 shotting shit but literally nothing is going to move while you mow it down
mint brook
so if we ever get a heavy chainaxe. what would that thing do, cause i think its only a matter of time!
ashen pecan
think chainaxe has brittle/decent bleed blessing which gives it an alternate playstyle
mint brook
like slower, more damage and cleave
basically a slower, higher damage and cleave evisc i think is what a heavy chainaxe would look like right?
north sedge
Both those blessings are mediocre, you want power
mint brook
think chainaxe has brittle/decent bleed blessing which gives it an alternate pla...
the bleed talent is actually trash cause its special just oneshots everything with the right build sadly
north sedge
No they all get bloodletter
ashen pecan
yeah but it's like max stacks on chaxe
mint brook
not so hot take: bloodletter should give you +4 bleed for 5 seconds after special action kill
shy river
Can crucis t-hammer get monster one shots if built correctly with just chastise or do I need shroudfield
north sedge
Shroud, with chastise it will be a 2-3 shot depending on boss/buffs
But chastise is overall more versatile
calm salmon
so if we ever get a heavy chainaxe. what would that thing do, cause i think its ...
if the eviscerators are anything to go by
high cleave, high damage, limited damage distribution per swing
and slow attack speed
mint brook
high cleave, high damage, limited damage distribution per swing
tbf i think it should have better cleave than the evisc for the slower speed
leaden pebble
The 500kg is barely usable due to its cone hitbox tho
can one shot biles 99% of the time if you know what you’re doing and be used to kill multiple chargers at once with an ems grenade
it’s not good for adds but that’s why you take something else with it
mint brook
but defs lower move speed and dodge
calm salmon
but defs lower move speed and dodge
I'd prefer not for the dodges
thunder hammer already got buffed from 2 to 3
shy river
It'd probably be like bardin's greataxe in VT2
calm salmon
3 is like the limit for actually meshing well with the gameplay loop
mint brook
thunder hammer already got buffed from 2 to 3
not dodge count but dode distance like look at the chainaxe
calm salmon
or slab shield
which is the best example
terrible, terrible mobility values on that poor thing
mint brook
like the chainaxe clearly trades power for mobility
calm salmon
great at killing, but you ARE going to trade damage with it
mint brook
the heavy one should be just a natural evolution from that
calm salmon
I guess my point is that we're kind of already at the limit for punishing mobility on some weapons
mint brook
like if i wanna be mobile, i go eviscerator 
calm salmon
so something that's worse than that just isn't going to feel good
ideally it'd just have the same mobility stats as the thunder hammers
calm salmon
ideally it'd just have the same mobility stats as the thunder hammers
or eviscerators
they're all equally clunky weapons
so should share the same mobility stats, give or take.
mint brook
like this baby of mine just oneshots everything, sure ranged spam CAN bad, but honestly, at that point you should cover that weakness by casting gun
dont need high dodge count if you can block very well and you kill everything in a single hit
its the khorne playstyle basically
leaden pebble
i never found myself dodging much, even in vermin unless i had to (monsters, specials & CWs) and much preferred staggering and blocking
north sedge
🤔
ember yew
i never found myself dodging much, even in vermin unless i had to (monsters, spe...
in this game its exact opposite
99% of my actions are dodges, i block like 3 to 10 timer per run
because this game is much more faster, mobile, better utility
ranged plays a better role, etc
leaden pebble
hopefully it doesn’t become too much a problem for me
north sedge
Dodges are just way stronger than block in dt
leaden pebble
bc even in cata i played the same way pr much
ember yew
i think you'l adapt, since you dodge the same way in VT2 too
leaden pebble
dodging specials does feel really nice in this game tho
and i feel i can more reliably avoid them than in vt
leaden pebble
funnily enough that’s like the one thing i dislike so far lmao
i nearly never use the slide feature in games
ember yew
just bind it on mouse side button or something
quasi marsh
Slides are op
leaden pebble
even in shit like ultrakill when it’s actively gimping my skill
quasi marsh
Use them
ember yew
for comfortable use
leaden pebble
i do have them on mouse
maybe ill feel more need to use them on higher difficulties
quasi marsh
Slides and sprinting while not looking at gunfire make you bullet immune
delicate shadow
I prefer the more grounded feel of vt2
leaden pebble
i have a brainworm istg
i dont slide because my brain doesn’t like it or something lmao
delicate shadow
but DT definitely has that power fantasy going
north sedge
Vt2 too slow (really just would like a sprint at least)
leaden pebble
I prefer the more grounded feel of vt2
i do agree with this
ember yew
Vt2 too slow (really just would like a sprint at least)
yeah
leaden pebble
Vt2 too slow (really just would like a sprint at least)
im actually the opposite on that
delicate shadow
I'd say it depends on what you started with
if you started with verm you prefer that, if you started with dt you prefer that
north sedge
I started with vt2
leaden pebble
not having a sprint and just one walk speed makes things feel..more consistent? idk it’s less buttons
north sedge
And prefer dt
delicate shadow
ok fine you're either what I stated or you're WEIRD and WRONG
quasi marsh
delicate shadow
smh
leaden pebble
also having movement tied to combat stamina is something to get used to
delicate shadow
I do appreciate that actually, even though it rarely tends to matter
leaden pebble
https://youtu.be/L9WKsyMxasI?si=lzqMGkUil_Svb7Fc
sense makes
north sedge
Stamina don't matter if you never really block!
But yes i have a super difficult time playing vt2 now, in terms of enjoyment
quasi marsh
sense makes
It's extra funny bc it has nothing to do with the direction you're sprinting or sliding, it's all about camera angle
leaden pebble
seriously? that’s interesting
quasi marsh
leaden pebble
does fov affect anything then?
quasi marsh
You can sprint directly into gunfire
As long as u don't look at it
Literally "if I don't see it it doesn't exist"
And not sure about that
leaden pebble
that is wild
quasi marsh
Haven't tested if fov changes
polar turtle
considering the mentality of a sizeable chunk of the playerbase, I think the new penance system might have been a slightly bad idea, but only slightly
leaden pebble
having a checklist is good for lots of players
but i need muh crafting overhaul
quasi marsh
That can't come soon enough
leaden pebble
hopefully it comes before i dive into it
likely after i get everyone to 30
ember yew
considering the mentality of a sizeable chunk of the playerbase, I think the new...
people will always go for new titles or frames or whatever, but some achievements are annoying and will ruin the experience, like a bad Zealot - Loner aura user, which will go out there for solo kills achievements and die like 20 seconds later.
polar turtle
people will always go for new titles or frames or whatever, but some achievement...
this is EXACTLY what I'm talking about
its painful to come across players like that
leaden pebble
yeah i dont see myself ever using that aura lmao
leaden pebble
people will always go for new titles or frames or whatever, but some achievement...
should be a private game thing if anything
polar turtle
"fuck you for designing the penances this way, so I'm going to ruin the experience for my team, who have nothing to do with penances whatsoever"
ember yew
this is EXACTLY what I'm talking about
Give it a few months, those players will either do that achievement or learn how to play the game or uninstall
Fatshark probably was thinking that this will stimulate players to try other playstyles
It's good to be positive though
bronze linden
Retuning to a long forgotten lvl 30 Zealot after a long time.
What are some good melee weapons to run right now?
obtuse stirrup
You can totally get the Loner penance without playing like an arsehole too
It's just some people take it as a "time to solo and not give a fuck" aura
obtuse stirrup
Retuning to a long forgotten lvl 30 Zealot after a long time.
What are some good...
I like heavy sword IX, Crusher and Evis XV
leaden pebble
which ability do yall like to use
ive been using fury for that vt zealot feel but is chorus any good? it looks cool as hell
stealth ain’t really my thing but shade was fun sometimes in vt2
obtuse stirrup
which ability do yall like to use
ive been using fury for that vt zealot feel bu...
All 3 on different builds
They are all great
Fury is probably the overall strongest
Chorus is great for weapons that don't need the help from Fury or stealth
quasi marsh
Fury is probably the best ability in the game ngl
obtuse stirrup
And stealth exists too I guess, idk i suck with it
leaden pebble
pff i see
quasi marsh
But if you speedrun your team will hate you lul
obtuse stirrup
You can do some nifty stuff diving their backline with it
quasi marsh
Oh and perfectionist stealth for monstro oneshots
obtuse stirrup
But idk I feel like I can do those same things from the front with a revolver
north sedge
Fury just does so many things
leaden pebble
i was using the ix heavy but as soon as i saw chainsaw greatsword..i knew what had to be done
obtuse stirrup
i was using the ix heavy but as soon as i saw chainsaw greatsword..i knew what h...
Dual wield obviously
leaden pebble
Dual wield obviously
in an ideal world, id be dual wielding chainsaw greatswords
obtuse stirrup
And then take throwing knives, except instead it's miniaturised chainsaws
leaden pebble
i have stun grenades to revive under pressure
i keep forgetting revives dont have hyper armor in this one
so i just get bitchslapped out of it
ember yew
i actually like fire grenades for revive more, stun grenades only a winner if there's multiple crushers/more elites on top of the body
otherwise firenade will clear the area and you can kill elites on top within few secs and res
it would be nice if stun grenades also been able to stun bosses
so you can break chaos spawn grab
or force nurgle to throw out
crimson mason
what blessings and perks are u looking for on a zealot with knife build? got this atm
ember yew
what blessings and perks are u looking for on a zealot with knife build? got thi...
you cant go above 100% rendings, so backstab is useless
so decide on either Precog/Riposte/MercyKiller
elfin steppe
jaunty lava
you cant go above 100% rendings, so backstab is useless
iirc this isn't true. It's something like 25% extra damage only, but rending continues to add up over 100%, just slower
quasi marsh
I don't think he means the armor value
Iirc they added a cap to how much rending you actually can get
What you're referring to is rending being quartered in effectiveness past 100% armor modifiers
Not the actual amount of rending you can stack
jaunty lava
I'm not sure what the difference is in what you said, but if you have 150% rending, it's still better than 100% rending no?
ember yew
Idk what your problem here, what i am saying is
- if you already got 5 stacks (100% rending) from Uncanny
backstab is worthless
i just went to test it on crusher
in both cases lets say
the damage number was 609 for an X attack used for test
it didnt change
so if people are stacking 220%+ rending, its their choice i guess
quasi marsh
I'm not sure what the difference is in what you said, but if you have 150% rendi...
It won't go past 100 is what he's saying
What you are referring to is armor modifiers
Like say you are using a gun with 60% modifier against maniacs
If you stack 100 rending
It stacks normally for the first 40 percent
But the remaining 60 percent gets quartered
So you only get 60+40+(60x0.25)= 115% modifier, not 160%
That is the 25% or quartering effect you probably read about
He is not talking about that
He is saying if you stack 220% rending
And use it on the same 60 percent modifier
You don't get 60+40+(180x0.25) = 145% armor mod
The game ignores your rending above 100 percent
So you still would get a 115% armor modifier
jaunty lava
bronze linden
What perks/blessings do I need for Eviscerator/Flamer?
frozen kernel
in both cases lets say
Saying you just went to test something, posting no pictures/videos, and then leading into a hypothetical doesn’t make for a very strong argument, friend. Just wanted to put that out there
I don’t use knife, I don’t care what y’all were yapping about. It’s just the first thing I saw today
vast basin
What perks/blessings do I need for Eviscerator/Flamer?
which evis do you run? flamer is generally blaze away+quickflame/showstopper
frozen kernel
which evis do you run? flamer is generally blaze away+quickflame/showstopper
What’s quickflame? I think I had both of the “more damage if you dump the whole tank” blessings on my flamer back in the day but I’ve been wanting to give it a try again for auric maelstrom melee specialist
vast basin
quickflame is faster reload when empty. blaze away is the dump ammo blessing, I think overpressure is still bugged and doesnt work on the dot
frozen kernel
By that I mean one was like “More damage the more you hold it” and the other was “More damage the more empty the tank was” or something
frozen kernel
quickflame is faster reload when empty. blaze away is the dump ammo blessing, I ...
Oh that reload would be EPIC for zealot
I should go feed hadron
vast basin
yeah. pretty sure flamer is zealot exclusive btw
frozen kernel
Well yeah, but it’s like the bolter situation where the reload almost makes the thing unusable
left iron
By that I mean one was like “More damage the more you hold it” and the other was...
You're thinking overpressure for the 2nd blessing. +power the more ammo in your tank, but it is currently not affecting the DoT, so it isnt great
frozen kernel
Veterans can reduce the reload time immensely but we just gotta suffer for the most part
frozen kernel
You're thinking overpressure for the 2nd blessing. +power the more ammo in your ...
Yeah, it used to be really good pre-perk 2.0
I miss when the flamer was straight OP around launch
Evi + Flamer zealots everywhere
left iron
Still amazing, just gotta be more careful with ammo usage
frozen kernel
Everyone only had chastise
So everyone was always screaming
Good times
Now I get to watch Ogryn players try to play Brink
quasi marsh
Well yeah, but it’s like the bolter situation where the reload almost makes the ...
Bolter is better on zealot than vet tbh
Reload isn't that bad and you can skip the swap animation with tech
Zealot can hipfire it and not have it be trash unlike vet who just plays it like a fat sniper rifle nowadays
frozen kernel
Idk why a vet would take bolter over plasma
But I’m a Lucius enjoyer so both are beyond me
quasi marsh
Insta draw
And it competes more against v7 than plasma
Similar breakpoints, weapon roles, clip sizes, etc
Only thing bolter really does better is killing monstrosities though
frozen kernel
I dunno what v7 means
quasi marsh
Vraks 7
frozen kernel
I need a v8, chum bucket
Imo the bolter just doesn’t feel worthwhile. At least mine doesn’t
I was accomplishing the same if not better performance using the revolver for a while, although it was probably that my playstyle is more suited to gun-fu weapons than the heavy weps
Now I’ve become a laspistol enjoyer because I like on demand invulnerability to ranged damage lol
Sometimes I can’t knee slide like a rockstar and a gunner/reaper really needs to die
Pewpewpew DEAD
Zealot commissar loadout fucks
bronze linden
which evis do you run? flamer is generally blaze away+quickflame/showstopper
Thanks for the flamer tip, I run XV for Evis I think
ember yew
Saying you just went to test something, posting no pictures/videos, and then lea...
I could care less about (making) screenshots or videos, if someone dont want to trust what i say - it's their choice. I'm not a "new" member here. Another person above already explained the stuff in detail.
frozen kernel
Fair enough, I didn’t scroll too far up
The :// kid gif just seemed so dejected lmao
spare dome
rending still stacks up beyond 100%, but after 100% it only offers a single % of damage for every 4% rending ovet 100 you have
frozen kernel
Yeah they went over all that
spare dome
so backstabbing is at best still worse than executor
They just arent worth taking together
frozen kernel
Lmao but penance coins for book
frozen kernel
Because they saw too many hammer users one shot bosses in lower difficulty
ember yew
wasnt it 120%
spare dome
something anyway yea
frozen kernel
People were having fun and Fartshart can’t abide that
south folio
it was nerfed because >100% rending did nothing anyways
spare dome
really backstab stuff is just silly
Weve all seen bulwarks pirouette like ballerinas to face us
south folio
they set in a hard cap for rending some time ago and reduced the amount of rending it gave to avoid confusing people (even though the entire situation surrounding rending is confusing)
spare dome
uncanny is pretty egregious
south folio
or severely limit them
frozen kernel
I’m a simple zealot
ember yew
but without uncanny knife will be pretty bad tbh
south folio
because it really shouldn't be a stacking self-buff that applies across multiple enemieis
frozen kernel
Eviscerator go GRRRRRRRRRRR
south folio
but without uncanny knife will be pretty bad tbh
knife is insane on zealot even without uncanny
because knife ADMs are absolutely fucking insane on crits
spare dome
h2 l3 still best kept knife secret
frozen kernel
Knife is ludicrously strong right now and a petty part of me is so mad
leaden pebble
Eviscerator go GRRRRRRRRRRR
chainsaw greatsword >>>>
frozen kernel
Because knife zealots used to be the bane of my existence
fleet zealot
knife is strong cause fatshark keeps buffing it cause the lowest tier player base goes lacerate
and aims for body shots
spare dome
frozen kernel
It was a guaranteed wipe any time I saw one when videos first started popping up on YouTube pre perks2.0
south folio
i hate knife users because i kept hearing about knife being this high skill weapon
spare dome
wat
spare dome
why did that pop up
fleet zealot
this is a conspiracy theory
spare dome
dumb birdo
fleet zealot
nothing i say is grounded in reality
frozen kernel
Because they’d see someone competent use it and go “Oh shit they never died, it must be good”
Then they’d take it into damnation and die to the first rager wave
south folio
i thought i'd had to use sick combos but nope i can just heavy spam or punch spam
frozen kernel
Meanwhile the rest of us haven’t even caught up yet lmao
south folio
the only redeeming thing is that you do have to somewhat think about taking advantage of the backstab bonus
spare dome
no arco you fool you have to maximize your every movement so you dont waste a single drop of energy from your samurai body
south folio
no arco you fool you have to maximize your every movement so you dont waste a si...
the meth in your veins allowing you to use up every drop of energy
spare dome
please, i dont do meth, anymore
south folio
crack cocaine
spare dome
knife does have some fun combos
but yes its all irrelevant
just spam push attacks
gg you win
also don't forget to hit the head
frozen kernel
I just didn’t like how back then, the only viable rifle for zealot was the Agri Braced Autogun. So if you saw a knife zealot with a shotgun, you knew they weren’t deleting specials OR horde clearing effectively. Hence the “Look the knife zealot isn’t dying, AND NEITHER ARE THE ENEMIES” meme
fossil crag
i hate knife users because i kept hearing about knife being this high skill weap...
not high skill, just know combos and have proper blessings and it goes yes i can kill everything really easily ||just dont include 6 balwarks||
spare dome
i miss old stripped down
south folio
of course you do
fossil crag
knife does have some fun combos
only combo i know is heavy push repeat for hordes , when out of stam heavy, special, heavy, push atk. and you should be good for 3 more push attacks after that string
spare dome
push attack light light, push attack light, h2 l3 repeating
spare dome
are all technical combos but there's no point
vocal pulsar
thank you for your time
spare dome
of course you do
i just want one of the brautos to have +.6 sprint
i miss having almost-knife sprint speeds with an agri Brauto
my old hammer build can never truly shine again
south folio
thank you for your time
wasting people's precious time
vocal pulsar
arco spends more time in psykhanium than actually playing the game
south folio
arco spends more time in psykhanium than actually playing the game
i'm cooking up my knife skills
spare dome
well yea arco can only render one map per week
leaden pebble
what're y'alls go-to ranged weapon for zealot? ive been running the basic autogun simply cause its neat
but was wondering what ppl think is good
vocal pulsar
what're y'alls go-to ranged weapon for zealot? ive been running the basic autogu...
most things are useable
south folio
any gun works so i'd pick a flavor you like
well, most guns
some, you will certainly have a harder time with (cough shredder autopistol)
leaden pebble
is throwing knife
are they that good?
spare dome
also i wanna rant briefly, yesterday on toxgas maelstrom dude got demolished in the very telegraphed gas cloud by a horde and said "bullshit artificial difficulty" and quit, and that's stuck with me since
fossil crag
are they that good?
one shot mostly every specialist besides mutie in the headge
spare dome
like what difficulty isnt artificial
vocal pulsar
are they that good?
they are good, and fun
spare dome
are you saying if it was 'real' difficulty you wouldnt have gotten your ass spanked by six poxwalkers?
north sedge
like what difficulty isnt artificial
i only buy organically sourced difficulty
south folio
knives are very good and also have good nodes above it
if you're going crit builds, you're taking them anyways and they also happen to be very good
leaden pebble
artificial difficulty is real, like difficulty settings in a new assassins creed game
tide games dont have that
vocal pulsar
if you're going crit builds, you're taking them anyways and they also happen to ...
if only you were a very good person
north sedge
if only you were a very good person
he's not even that, he's a goose
vocal pulsar
goose*
ember yew
artificial difficulty is real, like difficulty settings in a new assassins creed...
RE2 dynamic difficulty was really strange (sometimes annoying)
vocal pulsar
@south folio is a toothless goose
spare dome
im sorry i cant get passed those first four words
spare dome
idk sounds like something a goose would say
leaden pebble
RE2 dynamic difficulty was really strange (sometimes annoying)
re4 is the only game i bothered to s+ professional
spare dome
an exceptionally silly goose
north sedge
i am also not a goose
calm salmon
they set in a hard cap for rending some time ago and reduced the amount of rendi...
I'll just use an achlys stubber with some fudged stats(can't recall specifics off the top of my head):
130 unarmored damage, 60 flak damage
.46 ADM into flak
30% rending from Point Blank Barrage, and another 10% from dominate for a total of 40% rending
.86 adm into flak for a total damage of 111
Not exactly easy to spell that out in a game UI without looking like an OWLCAT RPG
south folio
I'll just use an achlys stubber with some fudged stats(can't recall specific...
OwO
gunlugger continues to surpass human comprehension
frozen kernel
if you're going crit builds, you're taking them anyways and they also happen to ...
Yeah but I’ve clutched so many times with stuns that I’m addicted 
calm salmon
I use throwing knives anymore for easier pathing through zealot's tree
spare dome
stuns are great to clean up a problem a throwing knife couldve prevented
calm salmon
cause of the location of Dodge=Toughness Gain talent being far top right
and all of the rest of the toughness regen talents on zealot sucking ass
south folio
all my homies like tertiary wiind
frozen kernel
How good are knives against the big nasties?
calm salmon
How good are knives against the big nasties?
they're for elites and specials
south folio
not very well
vocal pulsar
How good are knives against the big nasties?
crushers? bad. bosses? bad
spare dome
its really just for specials lmao
south folio
tknives don't have good unyielding damage
calm salmon
With some under the hood mechanics you can make them work on crushers
frozen kernel
I never used knives because I always went “This won’t help for crushers”
spare dome
but theyre amazing for specials
south folio
but they do have really good unarmoured/flak/maniac damage
calm salmon
but they're mostly for ragers/specials
frozen kernel
Most specials I just 3 tap with my laspistol
calm salmon
sometimes nice to pop some gunner heads with them
but I usually end up panicking and shooting those particular enemies in the head instead
spare dome
if i have tknives my choice of ranged is basically for style
south folio
oh yeah tknives are also suppression immune which is nice
frozen kernel
;-;
south folio
and are p nice to supplement with the bolter/flamer
calm salmon
I never used knives because I always went “This won’t help for crushers”
Indignatus Crusher, Revolver, Throwing Knives
Is usually my kit on zealot
solar gorge
knife cleave my beloved
calm salmon
sometimes I'll change it up with brautos(Daring today, aren't we)
frozen kernel
and are p nice to supplement with the bolter/flamer
OH HELL YEAH I wanted an excuse to pull the flamer back out
calm salmon
but mostly just Crusher/Revolver/Tknives
leaden pebble
ill give the knives a go then
grenades just feel like a nice oh shit button
calm salmon
I don’t have the patience but you guys are blessed
frozen kernel
Revolver has fallen off hard for me. Just not enough bullets to do all the killing I need and the reload ain’t it
calm salmon
i am patience incarnate
solar gorge
time to equip the corruption cleasing aura to do the penance then forget it's existence
calm salmon
kind of on a darktide break though
I thought the penances would interest me more
but I'm really bored with the weapon variety now
frozen kernel
I’d taken a big break since like twins
calm salmon
and I don't have the emotional capacity to overcome that
frozen kernel
Fair enough
leaden pebble
could not imagine clocking 1.7k on any coop game
frozen kernel
You’ve got more hours in DT than I have on Dark Souls PtD
leaden pebble
just like
not enough content for me to do that
props tho, thats kinda wild
spare dome
im creeping up on 3k atm
calm salmon
just like
not enough content for me to do that
props tho, thats kinda wild
let me blow your mind
even further
frozen kernel
It’s impressive you feel anything anymore
calm salmon
1 second
leaden pebble
oh no
spare dome
we do need more weapons tho
frozen kernel
calm salmon
Darkest Hour was my dad and brother combined
leaden pebble
christ
based rimworld tho
calm salmon
the rest of em are me
solar gorge
not having tf2 in ur top 5
frozen kernel
That is a legendary lineup
solar gorge
calm salmon
https://tenor.com/view/ronald-mcdonald-gif-25843435
leaden pebble
sadly most of my hours on games are on xbox
my most played on steam is rimworld and warframe around 380 or so
frozen kernel
I made some of my best friends on Ostfront
leaden pebble
3k on siege and 2.4k on for honor *crying*
calm salmon
just like
not enough content for me to do that
props tho, thats kinda wild
I like that you say that
but I have 1600 hours in battletech
a strictly singleplayer game
leaden pebble
i do have like 400 in elden ring & ds3
frozen kernel
I could not be fucked with Elden Ring beyond my first playthrough
leaden pebble
most is probably minecraft
several thousand across several platforms and like 15 years of playing it
frozen kernel
^^
It’s funny because I put at least 500 hours into every souls game before elden ring
calm salmon
I could not be fucked with Elden Ring beyond my first playthrough
I beat dark souls 1 7 times on the xbox 360
All the way through NG+7
didn't bother beyond that
leaden pebble
sekiro is my beloved, sadly its probably got the least content/replayability of them all
frozen kernel
But the game was just not it for me. It was a good first try for open world but overall I kinda resented how everything was weaker for it
frosty herald
calm salmon
Dark Souls 2 I did uh. . . NG+3?
frozen kernel
Also the PvP was fucking dogshit in ER
calm salmon
and then I haven't really played Dark souls 3 or Elden Ring
leaden pebble
im on like ng+15 in sekiro
calm salmon
(I've played a couple hours of DS3, but I never bought ER)
frozen kernel
Unpopular Opinion: Dark Souls 2 had the best PvP
calm salmon
I've had my fill of the dark souls franchise
leaden pebble
also played through every mod under the sun for it
calm salmon
Unpopular Opinion: Dark Souls 1 is the best dark souls game
leaden pebble
Unpopular Opinion: Dark Souls 2 had the best PvP
thats not that much of a hot take, i can agree there if anything
dense field
Unpopular Opinion: Dark Souls 1 is the best dark souls game
Not on PC
spare talon
Oh dark souls talk
Time to once again say lies of p is better than all of them and the only one that's on par with it is sekiro
frosty herald
Unpopular Opinion: Dark Souls 2 had the best PvP
hated opinion: ds2 was the best souls game
frozen kernel
Highest skill ceiling, didn’t have Dks1’s buggy backstabs/reverse backstab bullshit, and wasn’t curved sword + connection dependent like 3
frozen kernel
hated opinion: ds2 was the best souls game
I get a lot of flak for this but yeah
leaden pebble
ds1 had a strong first half, after o&s it fell off hard for me
calm salmon
hated opinion: ds2 was the best souls game
bro there's two-handed weapons that hit the ground during their attack animations which cause durability loss
not to mention if you play at 60fps you lose double the durability per hit
frosty herald
skill issue
calm salmon
so those weapons would lose durability 4-8x faster than normal weapons
frosty herald
use the mirrah greatsword
calm salmon
dual-sword my beloved
frozen kernel
It’s not faultless and I’m pretty sure Scholar fixed a bunch of shit
frosty herald
and use repair powder!!!
frozen kernel
I used the warp sword and the estoc powerstanced
calm salmon
I still need to figure out how to cap my framerate on fallout 4 speaking of
leaden pebble
sekiro & ds3 are my favorites
ds3 has my favorite bosses by far
bosses pre-bloodborne imo are kinda shit and basic
theres a couple, like artorias but thats it
frozen kernel
The backstepping made PvP so fucking sweet
desert bough
Ulgo need axe. Want to stun muties with it
calm salmon
Ulgo need axe. Want to stun muties with it
frosty herald
you already know im going to play the game a week before shadow of the erdtree speedrunning limgrave liurnia radahn and mohg
fleet zealot
Ulgo need axe. Want to stun muties with it
if you count death as a permanent stun, the rashad combat axe is for you
frosty herald
ill probably be lvl 65 70 lmao
leaden pebble
the lock picking minigame is *impossible* to do efficiently at 900 fps
me when physics are tied to framerate 
solar gorge
me waiting for shadow of the erdtree
calm salmon
me when physics are tied to framerate <a:dead_wesker:898348859309297715>
It's not really a huge issue during normal gameplay. I get 40-120fps otherwise
fleet zealot
tho be warned, it is a quirked up axe and vs maniac enemies and your lights do more damage than heavies to them
calm salmon
the reason it dips to 40 is because I'm stubborn
spare talon
bro there's two-handed weapons that hit the ground during their attack animati...
Yknow what game doesn't make durability annoying nor outright irrelevant and also adds engaging mechanics to it?
Lies of p baybee
calm salmon
for the vast majority of the game I get 90-110 fps
leaden pebble
me waiting for shadow of the erdtree
messmer better be the best boss theyve done
calm salmon
but in some forested areas it drops to 40 fps because of the godrays and shit
ivory marlin
Guys
calm salmon
and I just like too much how the game looks elsewhere to slightly downgrade graphics for a few problem areas
solar gorge
messmer better be the best boss theyve done
design is already a 10 but yeah waiting on clapping him myself
ivory marlin
How am i not supposed to buy mtg cards
solar gorge
also the track that'll play is important
frosty herald
puri the downtown boston area is so horribly optimized you will crash on xbox when going into it
frozen kernel
Just play New Vegas for the 76th time
calm salmon
How am i not supposed to buy mtg cards
get a crack habit instead
so you have no money for mtg
ivory marlin
Just play New Vegas for the 76th time
T-45 power armor mtg card
calm salmon
literally "do crack about it"
leaden pebble
I still need to figure out how to cap my framerate on fallout 4 speaking of
nvidia control panel? or another one that caps framerate externally
calm salmon
nvidia control panel? or another one that caps framerate externally
eh there's an ini fix
I'm just lazy
leaden pebble
Just play New Vegas for the 76th time
this is the way
ivory marlin
get a crack habit instead
But i no no wanna drugd
solar gorge
tarkove mentionned
leaden pebble
i never bothered with bethesda post oblivion
solar gorge
resisting the urge to mention the unheard edition
frosty herald
literally "do crack about it"
you ever hear a crackhead say "i got no money guess i wont smoke crack" no they get up and do it
frozen kernel
Can’t worry about the graphics if your game always looked shit 💅
It’s about that quality story baby
leaden pebble
resisting the urge to mention the unheard edition
$250??? for pre-promised content? thats a steal!!!!
calm salmon
Can’t worry about the graphics if your game always looked shit 💅
me playing darktide
frosty herald
resisting the urge to mention the unheard edition
tarkov fans have stockholm syndrome
frozen kernel
Tbh I never thought DT looked that bad
calm salmon
I wish I weren't poor
cedar nexus
Hello fellow priests
What is the best melee weapon? Currently using chainsaw sword but it feels lackluster
calm salmon
I'd host my own SPTarkov server
frosty herald
nikita made a post saying im sorry the community feels this way about unheard and some people were instantly convinced he apologized
calm salmon
Build a funny server cabinet and everything
leaden pebble
dt doesnt look bad
i just have to crank my settings down cause it runs awful lmao
coarse birch
Dt looks great, its just running it requires you to be able to just brute force through the optimization
frozen kernel
Hello fellow priests
What is the best melee weapon? Currently using chainsaw swo...
The best weapons are the friends we made along the way
calm salmon
I wonder if fatshark is ever gonna get around to the optimization
frozen kernel
Literally use anything lol
calm salmon
They mostly did with VT2
cedar nexus
The best weapons are the friends we made along the way
Facts but I can't wield those, they won't let me
calm salmon
but man, almost 2 years later and DT still runs like doggy poopoo
leaden pebble
i run 2077 on higher settings with the same performance lmao
solar gorge
nikita made a post saying im sorry the community feels this way about unheard an...
he basically made it so most of the stuff is available for the Edge of Darkness owners, which isn't available anymore
tarkov pay2win
ivory marlin
Guys we can all agree t-45 is peak power armor right?
calm salmon
Guys we can all agree t-45 is peak power armor right?
I like the T-60
spare talon
me playing darktide
I upgraded in December my pc to be able to run darktide on the pc itself instead of having go use geforce now cloud gaming to play it
Now my graphics are like 5x worse despite using upper middle grade current gen parts lmao
frozen kernel
Guys we can all agree t-45 is peak power armor right?
You spelled T-51b wrong
ivory marlin
51 is ugly
ivory marlin
T-45 my beloved
leaden pebble
i always went without it
calm salmon
T-45 my beloved
frozen kernel
51 is ugly
All power armor is ugly. This is why you dress like a cowboy
leaden pebble
All power armor is ugly. This is why you dress like a cowboy
hell yeah
spare talon
I should give the fallout games another try
I hated all of the ones I tried
calm salmon
All power armor is ugly. This is why you dress like a cowboy
combat armor, for me, in fallout 4
it looks the best
frozen kernel
But if I’m gonna wear big metal pants, I’m wearing the best big metal pants
leaden pebble
ncr ranger armor is peak
coarse birch
I upgraded in December my pc to be able to run darktide on the pc itself instead...
yeah DT is impressively hard to run (depending on how high you want graphics/what you consider running)
frosty herald
honestly fuck bsg
ivory marlin
Id do heretical things to someone in t-45
frosty herald
I should give the fallout games another try
I hated all of the ones I tried
you should try fallout tactics
calm salmon
I wonder how complicated the power armor is in the fallout tv show
ivory marlin
you should try fallout tactics
No
calm salmon
I really want bethesda to do a showcase with adam savage or something
spare talon
yeah DT is impressively hard to run (depending on how high you want graphics/wha...
Tbf I set my graphics to be able to run at 90 semi-consistently
calm salmon
Or just any showcase
calm salmon
BETHESDA I NEED TO KNOW HOW IT WORKS
ITS A REAL PROP
WITH REAL PEOPLE IN IT
SHOOOOOOWWWWWWW MEEEEEEEE THEEEEEEE INNARDS
solar gorge
they're too busy making tes6
coarse birch
Tbf I set my graphics to be able to run at 90 semi-consistently
yeah thats fair
leaden pebble
Tbf I set my graphics to be able to run at 90 semi-consistently
i cap most of my games at 90 but i said fuck it and run darktide at like 70-80
cause my settings are already quite low and dlss is at balanced
solar gorge
(reskinned skyrim, the only game they've been able to do for years)
frozen kernel
BETHESDA I NEED TO KNOW HOW IT WORKS
Pretty sure it’s hybrid CG and practical
spare talon
they're too busy making tes6
Please god let it be good
I need this
I really need this
frozen kernel
For some shots where he’s just sitting Im convinced it’s real
ivory marlin
they're too busy making tes6
Actually because of all the recent fallout hype they are probably working on fallout 5
coarse birch
ive accepted ill never make use of my monitors picture and also meet the refresh rate even with my rig and just take 110-70 for DT
leaden pebble
(reskinned skyrim, the only game they've been able to do for years)
fallout 4 is skyrim 1.1 with guns, and starfield is skyrim 1.2 with guns and space lmao
ivory marlin
You know, its crazy that there are only 4 fallout games
frosty herald
(reskinned skyrim, the only game they've been able to do for years)
judging by starfield tes 6 will either be todds gift to mankind if they take all of the criticism to heart or a bigger pile of shit than it
leaden pebble
yet skyrim aint even a good game to start with lmao
calm salmon
fallout 4 is skyrim 1.1 with guns, and starfield is skyrim 1.2 with guns and spa...
uh
I don't think that's really true
spare talon
yet skyrim aint even a good game to start with lmao
But its really fun
And that's what matters
calm salmon
Fallout 4 is a huge deviation from all of Bethesda's other titles
solar gorge
judging by starfield tes 6 will either be todds gift to mankind if they take all...
criticisim bounces right off on bethesda, they're impervious
calm salmon
Its definitely the most modern feeling one
solar gorge
death
calm salmon
I don't know how Bethesda took so many forward steps with Fallout 4's combat system and environmental story telling
and then went and made starfield
leaden pebble
i think bethesda peaked with morrowind, even their most acclaimed game fnv was made out of house with a tiny dev time lmao
calm salmon
which is just bad
ivory marlin
Starfield is ass
frosty herald
i think bethesda peaked with morrowind, even their most acclaimed game fnv was m...
morrowind is bethesda's best game
its the most complex and well thought out
you have like 10 armor pieces
calm salmon
morrowind is bethesda's best game
Ah yes, this city WHERE EVERY SINGLE BUILDING IS LITERALLY THE EXACT SAME MODEL SO I HAVE NO FUCKING IDEA WHERE TO GO
and it's that way the whole game
shy river
Typical game dev honestly, just forget all the lessons learned and just make a shittier game for a sequel
calm salmon
Morrowind has aged terribly
shy river
Looking at you payday3
frozen kernel
The only 2 issues I had with the Fallout show were the inconsistency of power armor and that Maximus was only conveniently incompetent with it.
If they leaned into him being a full on noob with no training, that’d been cool. But they show him doing cardio warmup exercises and kicking a rock through a building. He chucked a BOULDER the length of like two football fields.
So how was Titus PUNCHING a Yao Gui and doing no damage? How does Maximus get his foot stuck in a rotting wood plank? Other than that the show was fucking awesome and I loved it
calm salmon
Looking at you payday3
Uh
In this case
It was the devs wanting the same lifespan as PD2
but you can't do that if you just make PD2 but modern
because what new content do you add?
(Hint: You don't. You upgrade the engine, graphics, whatever else and then resell all of the old content again in the new game)
median steeple
well it doesn't help that multiple systems were missing and the servers were hot ass
solar gorge
the launched killed it
median steeple
well it doesn't help that multiple systems were missing and the servers were hot...
oh hey that reminds me of this game
solar gorge
expect a "comeback" in 2 years or so
frozen kernel
More than the servers were hot ass with Payday 3
frosty herald
payday 3 is completely dead
solar gorge
all games do this nowadays
calm salmon
But yeah, PD3 had other issues other than being an empty shell compared to PD2
Just pointing out that's where the devs were coming from
frosty herald
starbreeze's stock is so low no one will invest it in
calm salmon
Resell everything PD2 had, but in PD3
frosty herald
and now they want to make 2 live service games
frozen kernel
Get Ethan from H3 again
median steeple
no
frosty herald
wouldnt surprise me if starbreeze files for bankrupty when the season pass content is delivered
solar gorge
they should release a prenium version with lot's of advantages for 250 euros
shy river
Given how botched their walking dead game was and how bad payday3 is doing I wouldn't be surprised if liquidation is in their future
spare talon
I don't know how Bethesda took so many forward steps with Fallout 4's combat ...
What's weird is I found fallout 4s environments overwhelmingly boring
Maybe I'm just not a fan of the apocalypse setting or something but I literally remember no point of interest outside of the starting vault and that diamond city or whatever but even then both of them were boring
median steeple
they should release a prenium version with lot's of advantages for 250 euros
dont worry its not our definition of DLC