we will meet grendyl on a special assignment where we counter a spireside revolt
#zealot-class
fleet zealot
south folio
i would never play psyker
fleet zealot
and he will heroically save us
sterile stone
I think they're keeping this whole reject thing cause it's probs too much of a pain in the ass to revoice missions where everyone who hit level is a war band member
fleet zealot
"So your the rejects I've heard so much about..."
sterile stone
Or if you're level 30
And someone isn't
Thus not war band members
I'm sure they don't wanna have to do the extra work for the VAs
frank night
grendyl probably just gets told 'strike team #541 succeeded' or 'strike team #342 died'
spare dome
i doubt it
frank night
altho they were making like
a canon 'these are the rejects who keep surviving'
as a unit that contains the special assignment lore
fleet zealot
we are the star squad on the mission board that never dies
sterile stone
I mean someone had to have told Grendy "Hey these are the 4 that absolutely ass blasted those turbo juiced goober twins killing loads of our operatives"
eternal apex
There are two wolves inside of me:
Those solo clutch clips are cool af
royal vortex
@south folio
eternal apex
Imagine pressing send on a timely manner
spare dome
picture this, you're in hab dreyko, it's sunset, your team is dead and it's you alone, putting together the scriveners for the tree. you reach out but to your surprise, it's a hand -- a living hand. it's grendyls. your hands are still touching. you look into each other's eyes. you both laugh. you are executed for direlection of duty.
sterile stone
You belong in the brig
eternal apex
Let me try that again
fleet zealot
I mean someone had to have told Grendy "Hey these are the 4 that absolutely ass ...
nah he was told first that zola sent the turbo juiced goober rejects to kill the twins
sterile stone
as a unit that contains the special assignment lore
I can see this, seeing they removed a bunch of dialogue
Like the munitions mission
sterile stone
nah he was told first that zola sent the turbo juiced goober rejects to kill the...
I mean that could be true
lusty turtle
sterile stone
Bro just let us potentially die
To see if we really were that guy
And come to find out
We are that guy
eternal apex
There are two wolves inside of me:
Those solo clutch clips are cool af
If my entire team is dead and i am alive, i messed up
frosty herald
Grendyl after we kill the targets even though rannick considers us dead
spare dome
rule one of first aid
keep yourself alive
rule two of first aid
now maybe that other guy
eternal apex
Rule three of first aid
median steeple
Fuck the other guy
eternal apex
Keep the other other guys unalive
median steeple
Necromancy is a serious problem
eternal apex
Tbf i do need advice on getting optimal weapons for my build
So far i've been using the single-lights chainaxe alongside a placebo flamey-shotgun for supression
lean lark
chainaxes arent really good so you're better off using combat axes, specifically the rashad
the kantrael shotgun is one of the best zealot weapons
fleet zealot
chainaxes arent really good so you're better off using combat axes, specifically...
they are good now 😿
grave nebula
I mean yea surer... but still it's just a sword...
Anyways how do you have that sight on your revolver??+
lean lark
they are good now 😿
cant hear you over the industrial copium pumps going to your head
fleet zealot
cant hear you over the industrial copium pumps going to your head
just cause we dont have the fastest horde clear doesn't make them bad
lean lark
these are the ideal perks and stats you want on your weapons (fire frenzy can be replaced for deathspitter, doesnt matter)
eternal apex
chainaxes arent really good so you're better off using combat axes, specifically...
Would appreciate "why" reasoning too, learning is important 📓
fleet zealot
chain axes used to be some of the worst weapons in the game
lean lark
i dont use chainaxes but from the few games ive tried them out and seen others perform with it its not good compared to other options
fleet zealot
and he's just a boomer
i literally top frag every chaxe game mk4 is busted on zealot
median steeple
Professional hater
eternal apex
these are the ideal perks and stats you want on your weapons (fire frenzy can be...
Pretty sure i have the exact left axe but with worse stats, good to see am smort
lean lark
whatever works for you tho im not gonna bother
fleet zealot
i don't think they are exceptionally fun or easy to craft but mk4 with ht slaught, punishment and boosted from your talent tree can take on mauler and rager packs with zero effort,
lean lark
i just have this laying in my inventory since i tried it out
ill just keep it as a souvenir
misty nova
Not bad
lean lark
if they made chaxes like interesting mechanic wise then they'd be more fun
but its just a sloppier chainsword
thats about the only solid description i can give
misty nova
New Orestes has better shredder mechanics
eternal apex
i just have this laying in my inventory since i tried it out
Mine has same enchantmets here too, my hadron must be cracked
fleet zealot
mk12 is easier
but mk4 has a higher ceiling but it's not high enough to matter in most auric+ matches
eternal apex
mk12 is easier
Mk12 doesnt get me 7.5% per heavy kill as much, so i ended up moving away from it
misty nova
New Orestes has better shredder mechanics
Light attacks feel like blunt weapons and uh... Yeah
eternal apex
Did use one for awhile, Rev It Up is fun
lean lark
other melees that i would heavily recommend trying out are
fleet zealot
tbf i run martyrdom only so i take the damage reduction on wounds anyways
lean lark
the heavy swords (start off with mark9 then try mark7/mark6), the crucis thunderhammer (high skill ceiling relatively speaking but very fun), chainsword
grave nebula
also which heavy sword is that? which would you recommend? the only that looks cool is the last turtolsky one hehe
misty nova
Cheers
eternal apex
the heavy swords (start off with mark9 then try mark7/mark6), the crucis thunder...
Tried chainsword, combos are too flexible for my brain
ivory marlin
I must play bleed knife
fleet zealot
i just don't like how any of them swing
eternal apex
i just don't like how any of them swing
Ah, a fellow by-the-vibes gamer
fleet zealot
yea same thing with the inflas and helbores, they dont vibe with me
recons are just shit and makes me feel like i'm playing a ps1 game
astral hound
If you're not having fun using the weapon it's a bad weapon
misty nova
Understandable
eternal apex
the heavy swords (start off with mark9 then try mark7/mark6), the crucis thunder...
This is a nice list, thank you
fleet zealot
i just played it
minor bluff
Dang first time solo entire gold mission with bots
south folio
exhillious's blood boiling
ivory marlin
guys look at my zealot
astral hound
i like to take a chaxe into scab melee only mael
onetap all of the maulers and crushers... it's neat
fleet zealot
exhillious blood is nowhere near has hot as mine rn but i am zen
spare dome
why does arco sound like kayax
eternal apex
Tbh i like how none of y'all are wrong
misty nova
Homie got lava instead of blood
eternal apex
Videogame feels balanced in terms of viable options
ivory marlin
why does arco sound like kayax
arco got stolen and relpaced with someone similar but cooler
royal vortex
@south folio
ripe quest
seething
It's a bit difficult to see one of the best Flak + Cara ST weapons w/ good stunlocking get called 'not good'.
spare dome
how would simple pre-servitors such as us ever know
south folio
what
misty nova
recon lasguns
looks at Sneaky
Insanity
hushed agate
I use paul and shit even i admit its horrible
fleet zealot
why paul didn't get the same kind of rework crusher did, i will never know
ripe quest
Paul users are either the 99% w/ a shit brick and a forehead dent or the 1% who say they can rock it but just have their gun out 90% of the match.
Forgiving new players of course.
hushed agate
Paul users are either the 99% w/ a shit brick and a forehead dent or the 1% who ...
RUDE
ivory marlin
exhil whats the best gun for zealot
spare dome
im sure there are some who genuinely can only perform with the special spam strat
ripe quest
It's a thematically cool weapon that has literally everything wrong with it.
misty nova
why paul didn't get the same kind of rework crusher did, i will never know
My best guess is that they kept as crowd control for the Ogryn, even though...
fleet zealot
i mean crusher is still a crowd control type weapon on zealot
it just doesnt suck ass
south folio
why paul didn't get the same kind of rework crusher did, i will never know
very tragic
eternal apex
Tbf newbie take alert but cant you use Pmaul with a bit of crit/bleed for damage and the impact talents for shock value?
ripe quest
exhil whats the best gun for zealot
There's a couple but statistically and w/ synergies in mind I'd say Columnus IAG, Flamer, and Revolver. Most weapons are good, with situations they're nice in.
fleet zealot
Tbf newbie take alert but cant you use Pmaul with a bit of crit/bleed for damage...
2 empowered hits per poxwalker
ivory marlin
i love ultrakill
fleet zealot
and heavies are a bait
misty nova
Vaporwave background
ivory marlin
i also use johninator as my glow
ripe quest
Tbf newbie take alert but cant you use Pmaul with a bit of crit/bleed for damage...
From my talks with anyone who plays Ogryn you'd use Shield for that. The Paul isn't a crit weapon.
ivory marlin
and suck at hiting coins
steel agate
and suck at hiting coins
That’s fine it usually happens when you’re movin mad fast
ripe quest
Gotta rock that inf cleave + high stagger n whatnot.
steel agate
Considering the coin shares your momentum on flick
spare dome
not to mention the tiny extra bonus of being able to just turn off ranged enemies lol
eternal apex
From my talks with anyone who plays Ogryn you'd use Shield for that. The Paul is...
Well, ogryn talent tree is entirely different
median steeple
Wait is the shield a decent weapon or am I being illiterate
steel agate
Wait is the shield a decent weapon or am I being illiterate
You read it properly yea
The shield is good
median steeple
What the fuck
ripe quest
Well, ogryn talent tree is entirely different
We're talking about the Powermaul, which is an Ogryn weapon.
ivory marlin
Considering the coin shares your momentum on flick
im good at hitting coins except for that clip lmao i wiff like 3 shots on it
ripe quest
You might be thinking of the Crusher, which is a really good weapon for Zealot.
Paul hasn't gotten the changes that the Crusher got.
misty nova
Tbf newbie take alert but cant you use Pmaul with a bit of crit/bleed for damage...
You're not going to like to know that it only has 4 blessings for ogryn
eternal apex
You might be thinking of the Crusher, which is a really good weapon for Zealot.
Ah, i assumed we were talking about the electric- yeah that
steel agate
Crusher mad solid for preacher
I use it to ensure crushers and other heavy units stay stunlocked
Via special button light spam
eternal apex
You're not going to like to know that it only has 4 blessings for ogryn
Nah ogryn was my first class so i get it, i just wasn't on the same page
ivory marlin
psyker was my first class
low gulch
Is headtaker and slaughterer viewed as equally good generally for the crucis?
eternal apex
psyker was my first class
Probs gonna be my third, didnt really like what i saw of veteran's first 4 levels of gameplay
spare talon
I mean yea surer... but still it's just a sword...
Anyways how do you have that...
Extended weapons customization mod
I don't use it anymore cuz it makes memory leak crashes way too common tho
ripe quest
Is headtaker and slaughterer viewed as equally good generally for the crucis?
Headtaker has an easier proc condition but doesn't last as long and is less power per stack, Slaught requires kills but is higher and lasts longer. Imo up to preference but you can really farm Slaught hits.
low gulch
Headtaker has an easier proc condition but doesn't last as long and is less powe...
This has the potential to become a real boss and ogryn murderer. Think I might switch melee to elite and truma to headtaker
fleet zealot
crashing waves
misty nova
Why are there like 7 talents to increase it?
And why is hammerblow the only one I have
spare talon
also which heavy sword is that? which would you recommend? the only that looks c...
Also the weapon customization mod, it's the exact same sword in both clips
sterile stone
Dang first time solo entire gold mission with bots
What does this mean?
You're saying you out performed bots?
eternal apex
And why is hammerblow the only one I have
Tbf they are spread out between two auras and PROBABLY are additive, so it might not be worth getting all of them, but to me it looks like THERE ARE SO MANY???
What soes it mean???
eternal apex
You're saying you out performed bots?
It would be challenging to win with 3 bots since they don't have talents, right?
sterile stone
It would be challenging to win with 3 bots since they don't have talents, right?
You've never played with some people
steel agate
Bot vet can have heavy sword so idk they might be sleepers 
slow stag
is heavy sword marty still the play?
spare talon
is heavy sword marty still the play?
Almost every build is the play
eternal apex
Bots also get 100 in every category
Thats only 125% of 80%
sterile stone
Thats only 125% of 80%
Besides that, it is impressive to solo a damnation.
Considering the average player can barely survive malice with others
spare talon
Bots are actually pretty decent at holding their own in most average engagements
Like in cases where I try to get them down, it seems like it's a sisyphian task
crimson mason
Man the knife throwing penance is so annoying if you dont have it as your main spec, 500 kills takes so long 😴
crimson mason
the loner and shroudfield penance is peanuts in comparison
spare talon
Like if you watch their toughness they literally don't regen anything outside of melee kills
And you'll also notice that they're taking hits quite less often than most average players
crimson mason
No one tell him about the kinetic shield penace on the freak
that sounds ez or does it take really long?
steel agate
A copious amount of damage is needed
eternal apex
https://tenor.com/view/what-burger-how-wtf-%D1%87%D0%B7%D1%85-gif-25552254
Maximum for player stats is 80%
100% is only 5/4 bigger than that.
Weither 25% weapon stats is worth utility depends, but i would lean towards "nah"
crimson mason
A copious amount of damage is needed
at least i can somewhat tolerate shield spec, not a big fan of knife zealot
misty nova
is heavy sword marty still the play?
Yes, martyr is goated
steel agate
Valid a lot of the knife’s cool stuff is negated by just armor existing
So I don’t blame you
sterile stone
Cole
eternal apex
Tbf the bots do seem to get reduced attention from enemies
sterile stone
Don't you have that video of you using a throwing knife
And it instakilling and going through like 15 ragers
eternal apex
https://tenor.com/view/kurt-angle-stare-100-yard-stare-meme-gif-2514364594916299...
Should i keep trying to explain or would you rather i stop?
eternal apex
Valid a lot of the knife’s cool stuff is negated by just armor existing
Why not just use a tact-axe?
misty nova
Me when the bot has an extra dodge (he won't use it)
steel agate
Why not just use a tact-axe?
I don’t use axe or throwable knifes, that’s what I assumed he was takin bout when he said knife zel
Cuz the melee knife is decent on armor, not the best but it can still chunk
crimson mason
Regular knife is good with the backstab perk, probably meant throwing knife which i was referring to
blessing*
crimson mason
And it instakilling and going through like 15 ragers
i dont remember throwing knives ever penetrating enemies 🤔
eternal apex
I don’t use axe or throwable knifes, that’s what I assumed he was takin bout whe...
Oh, i'm just new at the game and wanna learn, lemme rephrase:
What does the knife do better than the tactical axe?
They are both weakspot/crit oriented, my guess would be blades have more cleave and some of their heavies are sweeps rather than single-targets
fleet zealot
Oh, i'm just new at the game and wanna learn, lemme rephrase:
What does the knif...
knife has easier cleave and better oneshots
paper pine
The knife is just fundamentally better lol
fleet zealot
knife can punch into cara, taxe can't
steel agate
Oh, i'm just new at the game and wanna learn, lemme rephrase:
What does the knif...
Oh word appreciate the rephrasin, the trench coat explains it pretty well
Knife’s heavy can say fuck u to flak/cara
livid mulch
i havent used any of the other melee weapons but combat knives are the best in the game
source: vibes
steel agate
Meanwhile the axe got barely any pen when it comes to armor
livid mulch
seriously uncanny strike on either combat knife gives you an anti everything weapon
its insane
its really easy to use too
eternal apex
But dont axe specials usually have "bonus stagger into armor" or something? Is that still worse than straight-up ignoring stagger reduction with the punch?
sterile stone
Should i keep trying to explain or would you rather i stop?
Go on
spare talon
uncanny is the 100% rend on backstab right?
Uncanny is 24% (at tier 4) rending for 3.5 seconds upon hitting the head, stacking 5 times
tardy cave
ahhh right
sterile stone
Uncanny is 24% (at tier 4) rending for 3.5 seconds upon hitting the head, stacki...
Colbert
eternal apex
Uncanny is 24% (at tier 4) rending for 3.5 seconds upon hitting the head, stacki...
Doesnt rending cap out at 40%?
sterile stone
Where's the video of the throwing knife penning ragers
spare talon
Doesnt rending cap out at 40%?
No
spare talon
Where's the video of the throwing knife penning ragers
With manstopper? Exhil has that I dont
sterile stone
@ripe quest Where is the clip of the throwing knife penning ragers
frosty herald
Nvm i hate the shovel special
fleet zealot
speaking of, can we finally kill the notion backstab>= uncanny strike
i hate it
backstab rending doesn't help your bleed, it is hyper specific, and mobs love turning fast to face you
frosty herald
Why are the ogryn shovel push attacks so horrendously slow
sterile stone
They're big
Big people move slower sometimes
Gotta lug around all that lunchbox meat he's holding
spare talon
speaking of, can we finally kill the notion backstab>= uncanny strike
You're preaching to the choir
olive raven
Big people move slower sometimes
most of time
eternal apex
Go on
Bots have "perfect" weapons at 100% stats.
Players can get close at 80% stats.
Essentially, 4 bots would have the same base weapon stats as 5 human characters, which is not particularly impressive as far as i can imagine because it comes at the costs of blessings, talents and being a lifeform capable of enjoying the videogame.
sterile stone
most of time
You imagine someone like Andre the Giant with speed like Mike Tyson
A slap like that would shatter bones
sterile stone
Bots have "perfect" weapons at 100% stats.
Players can get close at 80% stats.
...
You also can avoid things like people who just are objectively not good.
And the rng that comes with the personalities of the various people you meet.
eternal apex
You can
And its valid if you would prefer that
But humans are way more bonkers, so i prefer company
sterile stone
Bots would be a tinge better if they had some response to nets
Or overheads
I don't think I've seen a bot dodge a net or a overhead
hushed knoll
Exhillious is typing
ripe quest
Exhillious is typing
mhm
hushed knoll
What just happened
ripe quest
yes that was indeed my message
ripe quest
Man-Stopper exclusive thing. iirc it has a little cleave normally but not enough to cleave through a bunch of elites.
hushed knoll
Are you a man stopper
ripe quest
Are you a man stopper
I stop men sure.
hushed knoll
How
ripe quest
How
I go "⏧ ̵̾̋℘̸̄͗" and they just fall over
It appears I have killed "stopped" stan.
south folio
men
royal vortex
It appears I have ~~killed~~ "stopped" stan.
i know how to ward stan off
instantaneously
i cannot use the power here however
misty nova
If I knew anything about power word, I'd say that's not stop
ripe quest
i know how to ward stan off
I only know simple spells to annoy the shit out of him. However I can say them wherever I please.
visual blade
drippy zealot i met in a lobby
livid mulch
what blessings for chaxe? slaughterer/thrust or headtaker?
ripe quest
Your pick between the three. Thrust is really nice for Crushers and bosses and Slaught + Headtaker has a lot of momentum.
steel agate
https://tenor.com/view/doctor-strange-marvel-simple-spell-unbreakable-gif-145300...
how i be feelin in front of bosses with my relic out (i am clueless to the mutant behind me weeving the pulse)
maiden path
how many vermintide 2 maps are they gonna make before we get one
spare dome
well theyre chronological so
spare dome
idk maybe at least ten more before they reach the year 40k
misty nova
idk maybe at least ten more before they reach the year 40k
Idk they are at the end times
spare dome
"Bardin! What the blazing Hels is this contraption you put together in the keep?! And did you have to build its foundations in Saltzpye's Dungeon?"
"ROOM, Kruber! It's my ROOM!"
"It's a rocketship, Azumgi!"
elvish welching
frosty herald
ok the burster penance is bugged
frosty herald
yup
actualy no
its theyre gonna blow
but no matter how many times 0 teammates get hit it never registers
delicate shadow
idk
delicate shadow
a good ol' stinky drinky
delicate shadow
it's ok, I assumed stuart wasn't involved
hushed knoll
How dare you
mint brook
thx hadron for not fucking ruining a weapon for once, i now got an axe that can oneshot everything excluding bosses:
with this axe, i was able to build a pillowfort ... made out of heretics
royal vortex
spare talon
a good ol' stinky drinky
What kind of drinky is stinky
mint brook
some? with the way he fumbles in his own corrections, i feel like that he drank enough to even put an ogryn under!
god bless his soul
delicate shadow
What kind of drinky is stinky
durian based drinks
mint brook
but my god, martyrdom Orestes is genuinely insane
livid mulch
mint brook
the fact that i can just shit on whoever i want to
ripe quest
how many vermintide 2 maps are they gonna make before we get one
Since Darktide's launch, we've gotten more main maps than V2 has.
maiden path
mint brook
how is block efficiency calculated?
like we know that stuff like damage resistance stacking is bad on curious cause it is multiplicitavely
but what about block efficiency on curios?
ripe quest
like we know that stuff like damage resistance stacking is bad on curious cause ...
It's not bad it's just a like 51% DR instead of a 60%.
mint brook
yeah but the dmg resistance to gunner is kind of a meme
i get it on sniper tho
cause those shots get reduced quiet significantly
ripe quest
like we know that stuff like damage resistance stacking is bad on curious cause ...
Also yee it's a multiplicative thing.
fleet zealot
reject negativity, embrace copium
mint brook
so stacking block efficiency bad?
ripe quest
It's not particularly good since you like, rarely ever need to block. It being multiplicative isn't the thing that makes it bad.
fleet zealot
so stacking block efficiency bad?
it's bad cause DT isn't as blocked focused as vt2+ if you spam block after getting block broken you can keep blocking
also dodges are better than vt2
mint brook
It's not particularly good since you like, rarely ever need to block. It being m...
thing is the chainaxe SUFFERS from ass dodges
fleet zealot
on chain axe you just have to pace your dodges
if you are using mk4, thread in more push attacks
hushed knoll
EXHILLIOUS HI
fleet zealot
EXHILLIOUS HI
how many times did you retype the name to get it right
hushed knoll
0
mint brook
LMFAO
mint brook
ripe quest
thing is the chainaxe SUFFERS from ass dodges
I don't see what you mean, Chaxe has fine dodges. Worst offenders are like, Vet Psword but even then it's not that bad.
sterile stone
delicate shadow
Who did this to your name
who do you think 
ripe quest
Who did this to your name
stan tried to spell aquila and failed twice
sterile stone
This is the worst timeline
delicate shadow
I prefer this over "indian exeter" at least
ripe quest
Stan hasn't misnamed me in a while so that means I'm the chosen one.
mint brook
I don't see what you mean, Chaxe has fine dodges. Worst offenders are like, Vet ...
it just feels like i am an overweight dude with the axe, a few dodges and my man is tuckered out
also what are the most important stats for curios on a psyker
hushed knoll
I prefer this over "indian exeter" at least
vocal pulsar
also what are the most important stats for curios on a psyker
stack toughness
ripe quest
it just feels like i am an overweight dude with the axe, a few dodges and my man...
Are you just spamming the dodge button? Gotta pace them for stuff like bosses, the cooldown is pretty short esp w/ Judgement.
vocal pulsar
maybe one hp curio
royal vortex
vocal pulsar
no wounds, stamina is neat but very unnecessary
royal vortex
please remove mankar from my screen immediately
mint brook
mankar is evil 
hushed knoll
Mankar is amazinghg
ripe quest
Mankar, Josho, and Arco are weirdly like a living game of rock paper scissors.
royal vortex
mankar is the Amazon boeprle
delicate shadow
amazon boeprle
ripe quest
bro mankar just got called an amazon
mint brook
what about stamina regen?
vocal pulsar
what about stamina regen?
not necessary
delicate shadow
Manker "amazon boeprle" camoran
hollow flare
@hushed knoll God god man, slow down
vocal pulsar
psyker has fast stam regen delay anyway
sterile stone
bro mankar just got called an amazon
My oxygen has vacated my body
hushed knoll
<@399244889109561364> God god man, slow down
I lovbe Michelib ultra
vocal pulsar
just stack hp and toughness perks
hushed knoll
Michelob
vocal pulsar
and gunner resist
left iron
vocal pulsar
some builds can make decent use out of cooldown reduction
royal vortex
there are none
delicate shadow
lmao
hollow flare
So any Amazon peiople rn
I wish we were friends
delicate shadow
did bezos infect your phone or something?
hollow flare
How could you do this
mint brook
also imo martyrdom needs a small rework tbf
royal vortex
bezos is turning stan bald as we speak
mint brook
like quick thing here aight? listen for just a second
hushed knoll
Fuck Jeff Bezos
maiden path
ogryns have more handsome faces then normal people
royal vortex
Fuck Jeff Bezos
do you ghate him
maiden path
moglord
vocal pulsar
ogryns have more handsome faces then normal people
@royal vortex post my ogry
hushed knoll
I read that wrong
maiden path
why do the ogryns have better hairs then ANY other class
royal vortex
royal vortex
I read that wrong
how
hushed knoll
I read something nshgw
royal vortex
?????
hushed knoll
Jseg
vocal pulsar
mint brook
what if the devs completely reworked "faiths fortitude" and then made it, so that "Martyrdom" gave you 4 wounds and gave you 10% melee damage for each missing wound, up to a maximum of 5 stacks?
hushed knoll
Nsfw
maiden path
holy mog
hushed knoll
Is ths you
maiden path
what planet added bright orange hair
delicate shadow
what if the devs completely reworked "faiths fortitude" and then made it, so tha...
is there an issue with current martyrdom or is this just what if type of thing?
hushed knoll
Aquila qhat are yoy doing rn
delicate shadow
not much, watching yt vids
maiden path
chat what do i name my ogryn
ripe quest
what if the devs completely reworked "faiths fortitude" and then made it, so tha...
It would just buff Martyrdom's effectiveness, which isn't needed.
cloud hornet
mint brook
but isnt it kinda poop you gotta sacrifice 3 curios slots to make it efficient?
like i am a marty user, still i think the payoff isnt big enough given the sacrifices you are making
sterile stone
He’s gaming
gray ice
I play marty all the time, I don't think I've ever really had an issue with it
mint brook
I play marty all the time, I don't think I've ever really had an issue with it
as said, it is fine in one way, but comparing it to the other purples it feels really below average
ripe quest
but isnt it kinda poop you gotta sacrifice 3 curios slots to make it efficient?
There are valid builds where you run Martyr and don't run 3 +wounds (some don't run any at all). Also gives a plus side to Judgement if you aren't comfy with +wound builds. A problem with Zealot keystones is that they're super passive and uninteresting, your change would make Martyr worse about it.
gray ice
it's just a build, for this particular build you go all wounds to make it more effective, you can sac a wound or two and still be fine if you wana rough a tough curio
hushed knoll
NICE
mint brook
There are valid builds where you run Martyr and don't run 3 +wounds (some don't ...
why would marty be worse? °-°
bronze warren
found in melkstore how is this
hushed knoll
@delicate shadow NICE
ripe quest
why would marty be worse? °-°
Your change would make it even more passive than it already is, worsening the problems that current keystones have.
obtuse stirrup
found in melkstore how is this
1/4 iirc
ripe quest
It'd be better for sure, more potent n whatnot, but Martyr doesn't need to be stronger.
obtuse stirrup
Rampage is good, stats are good, other blessing and perks bad
mint brook
OH ok ... yeah but martyrdom in general, when deriving from its name, seems like a very passive thing
obtuse stirrup
Idk maybe crit chance is ok
bronze warren
dang oh well ill ignore it then
delicate shadow
you could swap out wrath and stamina cost and have an ok weapon
ripe quest
found in melkstore how is this
It's a 3/4. Probs would swap perks and run a crit CDR build or smth with it.
delicate shadow
the crit chance is bleh but y'know, it's fine
mint brook
like martyrdom derives literally from suffering of death for ones believes, like no way that we turn it, we would either need to rename the perk and then rework its effect or we are stuck in the passive play
ripe quest
like martyrdom derives literally from suffering of death for ones believes, like...
I'm pretty confident you can make a well-designed keystone under the name Martyrdom lol. As I've said before, Martyrdom is the best of the three regarding being passively-designed. The other two are the ones needing changes, Martyr is a pretty staple ability in the community.
sterile stone
@gray ice Vinbert, what’s your penance score at
mint brook
chat he has been born
Missed opportunity to call him Casseoh
mint brook
I'm pretty confident you can make a well-designed keystone under the name Martyr...
i mean i would like to hear suggestions cause i can not think of any xD
maiden path
Missed opportunity to call him Casseoh
too topical
will not stand the test of time
nino rata is forever
mint brook
will not stand the test of time
Hard to not stand the test of time if you already occupy all of it 💀
mint brook
Ran right into that one 
Listen, i am too short ok? I got to reach for the low hanging fruit 
maiden path
niño rata will not forget this
mint brook
forget what? 😄
maiden path
do u guys think its a new character or they bought an entire outfit at level 11 psyker
crimson mason
probably the extra cash u get from special edition of darktide
rugged tree
it was at some point. probably bought it because they liked it, realized it was on psyker while they were playing a different character, then eventually made a psyker to wear it
ripe quest
i mean i would like to hear suggestions cause i can not think of any xD
That's ignoring the point, you don't need to change Martyrdom. The other two are the issue, in that both are buffs for simply existing. Martyr has some interaction with curios + taking damage which has some weight behind it. I've been saying that making it more passive would dip it into the range of the other two keystones, which isn't good.
If I had my hands on it and was forced to change it, it'd probs be a "I eat damage now for a temp buff, if I perform well I am rewarded for it in the long term" type of thing. smth that still rewards taking wound curios but is more reactive and has opportunities to make it a passive buff.
maiden path
it was at some point. probably bought it because they liked it, realized it was ...
i would do thjat
they def played like a NOOB though
maiden path
just dodging poorly
and acting oddly
they didnt blow themnsleves upo
but thats cause they didnt use warp powers at all
just their staff
misty nova
Weekend night
fleet zealot
it's saturday night
mint brook
That's ignoring the point, you don't need to change Martyrdom. The other two are...
I mean i get what you mean
But i think the word you are looking for is “involved”
sterile stone
it's saturday night
All the weekend warriors getting on
mint brook
Cause for all intents purposes, martyrdom is still rather passive, but i get what you mean
Also, I dropped all critical chance in my zealot build because the chain X with martyrdom just doesn’t have any crit chance basically
Like i was wasting points for nothing, especially since it can one shot basically everything
Like the bleed talent was actually useless
And in turn the 50% toughness dmg reduction
And all the darn cd reduction from the crit one 😦
misty nova
That's where Bloodthirsty Evis15 comes into play
fleet zealot
crit is overtuned
bleh
i really wish it wasn't cause crit is best when it's an alternative playstyle
misty nova
So if you were feeling spicy you'd go crit, is that it?
burnt bobcat
What would yall have as minimum requirements for investing in a zarona IIa revolver? like >70% crit, high 70s damage, high 70s pen?
like are either of these worth upgrading
fleet zealot
So if you were feeling spicy you'd go crit, is that it?
i mean that is martyrdom, right now you could run anything with crit and it would be good
median steeple
like are either of these worth upgrading
neither imo since mobil is the dump stat
Or should be
but
burnt bobcat
i dont really care about what the worst stat is as long as the stats that are there are workable
median steeple
If you want to upgrade one the left is the best
brisk basin
momentum builds any good? or stick with martyrdom
fleet zealot
momentum builds any good? or stick with martyrdom
momentum is fine and easier/more stable than martyrdom
plus you get a cdr option
brisk basin
Does it work with anything but knife? Been trying out turbopriest
fleet zealot
Does it work with anything but knife? Been trying out turbopriest
monentum works with everything
even knife
spare dome
everything
fleet zealot
fleet zealot
whats going on.......
weekend
maiden path
nah
been like that da whole wek
maybe im burnt out on zealot
i almost have the book
fleet zealot
book
hardy gull
The BOOK
brisk basin
It's Christmas
fleet zealot
Yall ever heard of warhammer 40k?
i need to read more 40k
ripe quest
Yall ever heard of warhammer 40k?
I haven't, I've only been playing Helldivers.
brisk basin
SHIT BAD SOURCE
Yeah only other corroboration I can find was a tangential and deleted Twitter post from the lead animator
fleet zealot
Yeah only other corroboration I can find was a tangential and deleted Twitter po...
yea
misty mason
The nuke penance is kinda grim
fleet zealot
😢
brisk basin
It has to be coming, hopefully it's not locked to Netflix though
misty mason
I'm so curious on whether the 40k live action show is gonna be a dumpster fire
We've gotten a lot better at adaptations in the last 5 or so years
brisk basin
Prob depends if Cavill stays on or not tbh
brisk basin
The rumors aren't encouraging
misty mason
Unless the executive producers collectively oust him
misty nova
https://oecuf.xyz/2024/04/27/jojos-bizarre-adventure-steel-ball-run-part-7-will-...
No, don't give me hope
lusty turtle
Prob depends if Cavill stays on or not tbh
theres 2 live actions, one with cavil and one produced by the man in the high castle guy
(the latter is eisenhorn)
misty mason
The problem is that they can't really take any liberties, cause gw won't let them
Not that that'd a bad thing, but it's gonna make it a lot more difficult I imagine
brisk basin
Yeah idk if that's true
GW will do whatever they think will make them the most money
lusty turtle
The problem is that they can't really take any liberties, cause gw won't let the...
GW tend to send people to keep them on the straight n narrow ye
lusty turtle
GW will do whatever they think will make them the most money
ehhhhh
maiden path
zealot master of war
how did i unlock
not rhetorical
whats the requirements
i cant find it in the penance menu
is it 25 missions?
median steeple
its the penances at the bottom
or at least the last tier
pretty sure all of the penances in the class page count towards MoW
lusty turtle
how did i unlock
its just based of the number of zealot penances you complete
the final tier is complete all zealot penances
maiden path
its just based of the number of zealot penances you complete
ah
i ate like 4 mauler overheads and got the 'heal to 25'
should I use toughness or health curios on zeaot
hardy gull
I've been using 2 health and 1 toughness curio works just fine for me atleast
spare talon
log in
start auric heresy
lvl 40 smth psyker
lets see how this goes
smite
yknow i really should have guessed
north sedge
So perfectly
rugged tree
woah, a blue zarona with high 70s for everything but mobility from brunt. it's got a bad perk and blessing but should I upgrade it?
north sedge
Show us
misty nova
Unless you're playing martyrdom
Those extra 5% do help
north sedge
Well yea but you're not taking an actual toughness curio
rugged tree
Like, bad perk and blessing
misty nova
Well yea but you're not taking an actual toughness curio
Yup yup
mint brook
ever wanted to punch a walking fridge like some maniac?
north sedge
Solid but you'll need to get lucky with the rolls
hardy gull
Very high chance to get bricked I would up it to purp if you get something good maybe to gold but thats up to you
mint brook
beeg punch speed
north sedge
ever wanted to punch a walking fridge like some maniac?
Yea but street fighter 6 scratched that itch
rugged tree
hardy gull
Me when I get my hands on the speed runner zealot
north sedge
😔
north sedge
You'd need to change both blessings and be stuck with bad perks
rugged tree
point blank no gud? I hardly use revolver. Hand Cannon + Crucian Roulette are the good ones right?
north sedge
Surgical handcannon
ripe quest
God how did you make an already malnourished weapon seem even worse 
hardy gull
point blank no gud? I hardly use revolver. Hand Cannon + Crucian Roulette are th...
These are the blessings you want
rugged tree
oh haha I got surgical and hand-cannon... on an Agripinaa lol
mint brook
God how did you make an already malnourished weapon seem even worse <:cringe:701...
cause i used specials only
hardy gull
I dont hold the thing it for max amount of time
fleet zealot
hell partial surgical+ any crit chance from your tree
hardy gull
works for me so i dont care to min max
sterile stone
Do this in a simulated enviorment
Turn that 1 crusher into 4
Add 5 maulers
And a horde of poxers
ripe quest
I'm gonna start collecting a growing image of "works for me" since it pops up so often.
hardy gull
Don't care its a game if i have fun doesnt matter
ripe quest
WHAT
mint brook
Do this in a simulated enviorment
yeah i am trying things out atm, cause i see potential in it
sterile stone
The biggest thing that fucks anyone's movement is the trapper
Like that's the one thing you have to constantly look out for since she's so small
And can shoot through hordes (Which is absolute bullshit)
Seen too many people lose their cool once a trapper shows up
ripe quest
Nearly 5/5, just swap +crit. Sad on the Crit Bonus though, the thing is a brush stroke away from being perfect. Look at what BPs you hit w/ your build n whatnot, last I checked some builds don't even need +Maniac on the Revolver.
ripe quest
what
fleet zealot
me at 2am with cheese
ripe quest
tf did I do to you
fleet zealot
i mean you posted it saying that's how to build it
ripe quest
ooooooh the "works for me" guy and the revolver post are the same person
fleet zealot
oh nyo
ripe quest
lmao
hardy gull
?
mint brook
Do this in a simulated enviorment
what do you think would be a fair environement
ripe quest
He's gonna make a youtube video to spite you
Wasn't that the guy that put a bunch of people at the start in witch-hunt fashion, but didn't even get the right people for it?
fleet zealot
?
one time we told a person that flesh tearer is better than lacerate for a bleed build and he made a video about how toxic we were a month later
sterile stone
what do you think would be a fair environement
I mean that's totally up to you
mint brook
hmmm
fleet zealot
Wasn't that the guy that put a bunch of people at the start in witch-hunt fashio...
yea I said one thing to him, then just talked about knife on the side, not even about him, for 15 minutes
mint brook
A cramped hallway
has to be psykarium
sterile stone
Hmmmm
mint brook
cause i can simulate it all there
ripe quest
Solo mod is a great tool for simulating weapon tests like that.
You can set up a mission map in about the same time as just opening the Psyk.
sterile stone
The private game mode is perfect anyways for practicing team comp
As goofy as that sounds
hardy gull
Idk i don't look that deep into things. If i like what im running really couldn't care less about min maxing helps to keep the skill level high for me
mint brook
so this is test number one to see how i can be able to handle a horde with it ... honestly the crit spam makes me sorta unkillable:
fleet zealot
Idk i don't look that deep into things. If i like what im running really couldn'...
yea but you posted in public as recomnendation, if you don't care just move on
sterile stone
You'd be playing with atleast 1-2 other players next to you
sterile stone
so this is test number one to see how i can be able to handle a horde with it .....
Ooooh
ripe quest
so this is test number one to see how i can be able to handle a horde with it .....
light spam 
sterile stone
See I saw that panic spam dodge
The thing that fucks so many people over
Instead of dodging
Just jump straight up
That's what does me in so much during massive hordes
fleet zealot
Just jump straight up
OH taht's the hop i see poeple do
mint brook
light spam <:hollow:951591287801409597>
you want me to heavy spam with overheads? but yeah the fucking carpel tunnel is feelable in my arm
ripe quest
Just jump straight up
yee they got like dodge and jump bound to the same key by default right?
mint brook
Just jump straight up
guilty as charged, i need to get the rust off
ripe quest
you want me to heavy spam with overheads? <:kekW:679626993310236681> but yeah t...
which mark is it
sterile stone
guilty as charged, i need to get the rust off
Remember what I said about trappers
fleet zealot
so this is test number one to see how i can be able to handle a horde with it .....
this video makes me upset at fatshark cause i've seen how insane chsword clear is
mint brook
which mark is it
IV
sterile stone
It happens so much
sterile stone
yee they got like dodge and jump bound to the same key by default right?
Yeah
south folio
there's a mod to prevent sideways/backwards jumps if they're on the samekey
mint brook
That's where you get gotten
You know they have a 6th sense when to appear
ripe quest
IV
ah that's the worst of the bunch for crowds but you do L1 PA iirc. Mk II and VII have H1 H2 and H1 PA respectively.
mint brook
lets try something more nasty
mint brook
ah that's the worst of the bunch for crowds but you do L1 PA iirc. Mk II and VII...
is there an axe with quicker quick attacks?
ripe quest
Heavies have the higher merit w/ bruisers since you can proc BM on them.
mint brook
cause i really take it for the absolutely stupid ability cooldown
coarse birch
ah that's the worst of the bunch for crowds but you do L1 PA iirc. Mk II and VII...
yeah l1 PA is the best you get
heavies are just overhead uppercut repeating
ripe quest
cause i really take it for the absolutely stupid ability cooldown
Oh if you're just looking for CDR take a Chainsword or Dclaw.
mint brook
Oh if you're just looking for CDR take a Chainsword or Dclaw.
they dont have as high of a crit chance tho
ripe quest
Both can get a full ult per swing against poxwalkers and they have Shred.
sterile stone
Oh if you're just looking for CDR take a Chainsword or Dclaw.
Dclaws are god tier
Simple cause you can "No you" a crusher overhead
ripe quest
they dont have as high of a crit chance tho
You hit 80% which is more than enough if you're getting 24-28.5 hitmass worth of CDR.
south folio
they dont have as high of a crit chance tho
they have significantly more cleave, and chainsword/dclaw has access to shred
ripe quest
Taxe is hitting for 4.5 hitmass w/ decimator, which isn't exactly great for this. It's not far off from just using a knife.
unironically BM w/ Martyr would probs hit higher CDR rates.
royal vortex
ah that's the worst of the bunch for crowds but you do L1 PA iirc. Mk II and VII...
u can technically also do the push attack rotation for mk2
which is cool if ur a desperationchad
i think for mk2 it's push attack h2
ripe quest
u can technically also do the push attack rotation for mk2
you can yeah. real men spam push for Desperation procs.
sterile stone
Sensei pierogi speaks
ripe quest
The rager eating 6 pushes and a punch, not knowing he's about to eat the filthiest overhead stab ever known to the Imperium
sterile stone
The rager eating 6 pushes and a punch, not knowing he's about to eat the filthie...
Speak of
I thought your pc was scuffed
ripe quest
no
I got upgraded internet and my PC may be a bit dusty but it can run Darktide at 300 fps
sterile stone
Mans saying that like it ain't nothin
Wild
Ex out here leaving me in the wilds of France
Suffering with these pubs
spare dome
thats easily done after you recode the entire engine into quake 2
mint brook
ok so i died but i think the results are decent, idk if the axe is the issue for me not being able to deal with ranged or if it is my skill issue:
sterile stone
thats easily done after you recode the entire engine into quake 2
Forgot he plays on melted plastic graphics
spare dome
i wonder who's gonna successfully convert the game into ASCII first
sterile stone
Get basically homeless to emulate darktide
That man would get this game to play on a estisketch if he could
spare dome
"300fps still"
"fucking how"
ripe quest
Ex out here leaving me in the wilds of France
I don't have a 2nd monitor to keep tabs on my close online-friends totally not 
ping me whenever you want a random 2.0.
south folio
ok so i died but i think the results are decent, idk if the axe is the issue for...
you're never going to be able to fight set-up reapers in an open space like that
south folio
and it's not a practical scenario you're ever going to neat to deal with since you can usually just jump them
mint brook
you're never going to be able to fight set-up reapers in an open space like that
i know but i wanted to be brutal 😄
misty nova
ok so i died but i think the results are decent, idk if the axe is the issue for...
Yup, the ranged part
Although you'd have more cover on Tertium
minor sage
@south folio did fs say when the content patch was gonna land
minor sage
i played like once when the penance patch dropped
south folio
i don't think so
sterile stone
Until you dodge into a corner
minor sage
and stopped cuz there was no actual new content
sterile stone
Or into a crate
minor sage
not gonna lie, I like the new special and also the new condition
hi-int pox is fun
but i think it's not enough content
for me
to keep playing
maybe in a few weeks
they'll drop actual content
south folio
it is pretty barebones though fatshark still seems to be in the "fixing the game" stage
sterile stone
They just released a new update
You ain't getting another update for another 5 months
Atleast
sterile stone
I hate those
That's why I like vet
maiden path
POWER CYCLER
sterile stone
The duality of vet is
It's a really really strong kit
The issue is
Like 90% of people who play vet
Are absolutely atrocious
sterile stone
but they didn't add anything
Watch your tone there citizen
Some might consider you
Ungreatful
minor sage
I absolutely am ungrateful LOL
i've been playing tli and rt instead
i'm not one of those people who will bitch and then keep playing
but I will bitch and go play other games
sterile stone
Nothing wrong with standing on principles.
delicate shadow
I playtest the game and I haven't played at all since the update dropped
minor sage
i have plenty of shit to play
minor sage
I playtest the game and I haven't played at all since the update dropped
tbf you're not missing much
minor sage
the new special and new condition are good and fun, I actually think they're like 9/10 content
delicate shadow
or gas
delicate shadow
yea
I'm kinda just holding out until crafting update, whenever the fuck that's happening
minor sage
I actually found the old penances more interesting
cuz you actually had to work
to make them happen
the new ones are just like "kill 100000 enemies"
"do 50000 missions"
i really enjoyed stuff like "knock 14 enemies off a cliff with one shout"
or "maintain max warp charges for 5 min"
delicate shadow
as soon as I saw that one of the zealot ones requires playing loner I just
stopped caring
delicate shadow
mhm
minor sage
if it's grindy
i just want
new blessings, new weapons, red weapons,
anything
to grind for
maiden path
I'm kinda just holding out until crafting update, whenever the fuck that's happe...
3...
opaque island
sister prine is too wholesome for the warhammer 40k universe, probably the nicest npc/ mission leader we have
opaque island
She out here calling mfs hopeless n shit
ive never heard her say anything like that, i mean sometimes she asks if she can touch us which is kinda weird
but she's usually positive afaik
opaque island
fuck i dont remember the name of it, the one that fits a sister of battle vibe best, not scottish but not the insane one either
I didnt know the npcs reacted to you differently depending on your personality
thats wild if true
mint brook
just leaving this here
opaque island
just leaving this here
im curiuos can you just walk around down there or is it a death field
ripe quest
but i think it's not enough content
I'm actually willing to bet that it'll never feel like there's enough new content. On-paper, this update has a lot to look towards w/ penance grinding and cool cosmetics. But that feeling probs is rooted in the sense of "I'm bored with the game since I'm just doing the same shit over and over" and the content that Fatshark has been releasing isn't fixing that. Crafting update or new weapons might not even fix that for some.
minor sage
I'm actually willing to bet that it'll never feel like there's enough new conten...
idk i actually dont agree
opaque island
I'm actually willing to bet that it'll never feel like there's enough new conten...
have they said anything about expansions vermintide 2 style? while im sure there would be a stink about having to buy an expansion, its not any different to how they did it in vermintide
minor sage
I personally find interacting with the game + gameplay interesting
so when they add new weapons, new skill trees, etc I find that fun
I even like grinding to optimize my weapons and builds
but cosmetics are something that, while cool; doesn't really appeal to me as a player
ripe quest
just leaving this here
minor sage
so the penance system literally did nothing for me
sterile stone
Playing a mission with no modifier is really weird
Like when I see one elite
I'm expecting more
But no
It's just that one elite
Been playing too much high shock
mint brook
ripe quest
idk i actually dont agree
mm I'm probs just speaking from personal gripes + what loud people seem to be saying.
minor sage
i mean i get that there are people
who play on heresy
and spend $500 on making their character look super cool
ripe quest
have they said anything about expansions vermintide 2 style? while im sure there...
Fatshark would sooner make paid cosmetics free than release paid expansions just based on their general fear of the community.
minor sage
and use the coolest weapons from 40k but use white weapons
mint brook
i really wanna see what this second psykanium is
mint brook
there is a second one outside the one we are in
opaque island
who play on heresy
I like playing heresy because alot of the time i just want to kill a ton of heretics without it being TOO easy but without having to worry to much about fucking up either, Damn is fun every now and then but thats not what I like about these kinds of games I guess
ripe quest
I'm sure down the line it's possible for DLC, but rn Fatshark is most likely going to stick to what are essentially rereleases of core gameplay until the game isn't getting majorly criticized by even players that like the game. If I had to guess the next two will be a major change w/ enemy variety and then something to do with how weapon variants are handled if the crafting update doesn't address it.
maiden path
chaos wastes darktide when
ripe quest
Could use a couple "community additions" patches too, would be baller if we got to see actual custom private matches and built in QoL.
leaden pebble
i just wanna be able to play solo
misty raven
I like the update but this update yea is like overdue for what you've been doing since the class rework in a sense. All these penances to grind and yet not a lot of actual new while grinding it. I like the new Hab Dreyko though
"Do the thing you were doing...with more account rewards now"
opaque island
the secrets are a nice addition too
minor sage
I like playing heresy because alot of the time i just want to kill a ton of here...
and to be honest, there's nothing wrong with that
lol
opaque island
is there a reason to do martyr skulls after the first time? are they still there i havent checked
minor sage
and i understand that some ppl like the penance update
but for me there's like no point
i just want better gameplay
and more gameplay content
misty raven
I like the Twins fight...it sucks that it's like it's own sectioned off mission. I like playing the mission but it's like...I'm going out of my way to play the twins. Instead of just picking on the board with whatever setup I feel like playing and finding a random qp pub
opaque island
i do miss the more in depth character interactions of vermintide
spare dome
like aurics have been here for ages now but this is still clearly some people's first times
and thats cause of penances
leaden pebble
i do miss the more in depth character interactions of vermintide
one of the biggest reasons i still prefer vermin
minor sage
vermin is much better if you care about the lore and polish and style of the game
leaden pebble
the characters are actual written characters with lore and development
sterile stone
and thats cause of penances
Biggest issue there
sterile stone
Once they complete their auric penances
opaque island
one of the biggest reasons i still prefer vermin
but thats more a symptom of custom character allowance and isnt a something they can just fix its part of the game
sterile stone
They're going back to where ever theyw ere comfortable with
leaden pebble
i disagree
misty raven
I didn't play as much VT because while I appreciated the more established characters, I also like playing what I want to play more
minor sage
one big gameplay enshittifying feature that can't really be argued against is the fact that only one person can play each class
that makes the gameplay worse
and it has to be that way for the lore/character development to exist
spare dome
its tru
minor sage
so if i wanna play "x" and my friend is playing "x" then i can't play 'x'
sterile stone
I mean to be fair right
minor sage
that's just dogshit
leaden pebble
i dont think so
ive always been a single pick advocate for most games
sterile stone
Vermintide had 2 games to flesh out thier characters
spare dome
all my friends bounced off cause releveling five characters wasn't an appealing prospect
and the game hadnt hooked them yet
minor sage
i dont think so
ive always been a single pick advocate for most games
I mean you are entitled to your opinion; but that is an aspect of gameplay that is strictly an update in DT
the fact that you can play what you enjoy
rather than being limited
opaque island
if vermintide doesnt hook you in one mission its probably just not for you, these kind of games almost live and die on the gameplay and if they dont like it then well rip
leaden pebble
and i never encountered issues not being able to play who i wanted, because i like all of them, save the elf
each character has vastly different playstyles in their 4 classes so its not hard to enjoy multiple chars
misty raven
and i never encountered issues not being able to play who i wanted, because i li...
Yea...most people aren't like you
minor sage
because someone else picked it
you can't just apply yourself to everyone else
that's just being a nazi tbh
misty raven
Like fighting games. You will have people ONLY play 1 character
sterile stone
if vermintide doesnt hook you in one mission its probably just not for you, thes...
Horde shooters are a bit niche
leaden pebble
that's just being a nazi tbh
what-
minor sage
let me break it down for you
opaque island
i mean it was never THAT big an issue i would just leave and quickplay until i find a mission without an elf
minor sage
OTHER PEOPLE ARE DIFFERENT THAN YOU lol
opaque island
nazi is a pretty fucking strong word dude
misty raven
Think you could've gotten the point across without "nazi"
median steeple
let me break it down for you
minor sage
you can't assume everyone enjoys games the same way you do
opaque island
you can't assume everyone enjoys games the same way you do
i didnt see them make that assumption at all
they were just stating why they felt the way they do
minor sage
i mean it was never THAT big an issue i would just leave and quickplay until i f...
right, but the fact that you had to do that
means that this was an aspect that is actively making the game worse
leaden pebble
they were just stating why they felt the way they do
thank you
opaque island
i mean it was never THAT big an issue i would just leave and quickplay until i f...
I see your reaction @sterile stone is it cause i admitted to playing elf?
i was a good elf and actually stuck with my team tyvm
minor sage
they were just stating why they felt the way they do
everybody is entitled to feel the way they do, but other people will feel differently lol
so saying "i do this" is a pointless rebuttal
median steeple
All Elgi bad
sterile stone
i was a good elf and actually stuck with my team tyvm
Nah it's just the memes and disdain for people that play Kerillian
minor sage
because "you" are insignificant
sterile stone
It's like people hold the same disdain for knife zealots
For almost the exact same stereotypes
opaque island
because "you" are insignificant
I think you're making this a much bigger deal than it needs to be, I relate to people by saying oh yea i know what thats like, or this is how i feel, there's nothing wrong with saying how you feel
this is a chat room after all