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You take unyielding for the bosses flak for everything else/scab cap
maybe flak i guess INCASE you are unlucky and get the chaos spawn
Full send t-hammer boss kill build is the only time I would consider crit DMG and honestly I still wouldn't
Crit dmg is one of the worst perks in the game
yeah but as said, user is asking to bonk a boss
he didnt specify he wants a broad application
Doesn't matter
whatever man
can not do more than agree but clarify that this is what he asked for
if you are told to make a motor bike, you dont make a quad
What

what i am saying is that if somebody asks for an apple dont give them a pear, he asked for boss damage, not a generally good all purpose weapon
Better off taking crit chance over damage crit damage is the worst perk in the game
No it isnt
Crit chance also not great most of the time!
it really is
again for pure damage if you can guarantee a crit, as i mentioned
But at least usable on certain weapons
Shroud and fury give 100% crit chance so crit chance is pointless
Crit damage and weak spot damage are both bad because they are calculated weird
The highest damage from perks to bosses is unyielding and crit damage
which, if you want a boss bonk build, you are guaranteed to take
We arent talking about if the perks are bad or not lol
Crit damage would be the teeny tiniest negligible buff
people miss the point harder than i do with my taxes
Still a buff
Waste of a perk slot
of like 10 damage
Whatever dude
the question was "what is best to change here for a boss bonk hammer?"
Not "What is the best change here to deal mainly with bosses but also with other things?"
read the print
It is simply not the best because it is the worst weapon perk in the game

No need to be so stuck on it
ok forget it, you are not listening
What I run on my IX built off a crit horde clear
you are the one stuck on it cause we already agreed it sucks but its the only thing that really increases the damage of a hit against bosses besides unyelding and weakspot hits
yeah but the argument is that the improvement is going to be so marginal that you should really just take another perk
+3% to your damage on th special crit hits is whatevs
If we're splitting hairs this hard nobody asking for boss hammer advice is thinking "i will only ever swing this at bosses"
like we agree on it, we specify why we still suggested the former, and you go: i heard you, by i am gonna ignore it!
well, 1.023x in terms of relative improvement
PRETTY sure the dude knows he will use the hammer for more than just bosses, considering that he most likely plays the game and knows there are different enemies
and hence we're making recommendations off of that
i wanted for the memes to make a boss killer, i knew the crit wouldnt be good, still did it for the haha
as said, not a good choice, but what else improves boss damage
I'm curious. Do you understand how the crit damage perk applies itself?
Say you do 100 unarmored damage, and 150 critical damage into unarmored.
10% crit damage is 10% of 50(the difference between base damage and ciritcal damage), so 50x0.1=5 | 150+5 = 155
So now you do 155 critical damage into unarmored.
nothing
The same formula is used for weakspot damage.
i already agree that it's your only other option for improving boss damage
i also already have said that i'm not taking a purist interpretation of what that person was asking
dude
crit is ass
end of
and also, it's only a 1.023x improvement to your th special on a crit hit
versus 25% if ya do unyielding 💀
+2.3% damage
thats fair enough to warn him that crit might be a poor choice
what i got an issue with is the folk trying to be all super optimized and be like "no, bad, no do"
like mate it be a game, if people ask for one thing, let them, not all of us are terminally online and only play this game with optimization in mind
There's a reason deadly accurate is +100% critical weakspot damage - and why all of zealot's finesse/crit damage buffs in the tree are in the realm of 30-100%
i mean they asked specifically here
It's a dogshit stat that's applied weirdly so you need massive modifiers to make meaningful differences
and if they want to shrug off our suggestions and go for that, sure
but we're going to give general advice unless they ask otherwise specifically
i don't run optimal builds myself either
but if people are going to ask for advice, i assume they're asking for optimality unless otherwise specified
they were pretty specific tbf, but as said, i agree that one should give a slight warning that crit damage compared to flak is a ... less than optimal choice
so.
either way, if it's just for "haha", i don't see why you're so adamant
just say that "yeah it's not optimal but if you want to go meme boss damage then crit damage" and end it at that
its just how some people absolutely foam out of their mouth if they hear crit damage that just urks me, some peeps need to dip their censers in ice
well, we have pretty good reason to foam out of our mouth for that
no fuckin clue if the bp calc is still accurate tho
cuz it is shit
said that already quiet a few times that crit damage aint the best chocie for general purpose if you read up
Even if their execution in voicing it can be a little aggressive.
yes i know and i didn't say that you said otherwise
one day crit/weakspot damage will be total damage buffs like flak etc 😔
the basis of my argument is that people are imprecise in what they say and when they were asking for a best boss bonking th, they weren't exactly asking to make a compromise just for 1.023x damage on a crit th special
if this ever changes, holy fuck they would be good perks
in that sense, it is perfectly appropriate to point out why +10% crit damage should not be taken, unless they otherwise specify that they were looking to abandon all else just for boss damage
everything can be done in a civilized way, i genuinely do not give a dime and a half if somebody starts being agressive about it, they chose to come on chatting space to talk and should know what tone does to an argument
it is not about what YOU say but about the implication surrounding their question
+100% damage of 800 
do a casual 1600 damage to a mutant with deadly accurate 
also, crit damage needs a big buff tbf to something like 25-50%
the buff it needs
I think people get aggressive when they are talked down to when they are only trying to give pointers about a broken blessing
The condescending tone is a little unnecessary
i would understand that, issue is some folk, not all, were quiet aggressive when it was even mentioned
25-50% would be too much imo just make it total multipler or something
They'd need to tone down buffs in the trees and on blessings, but ideally yes.
(or not, let player power explode)
fair, forgot a lot can boost crit chance quiet high!
zealot does go crazy when it comes to crits
people were aggressive because you didn't remark on the caveat that it was only a 1.023x improvement to damage on crit th special
which is a strong opportunity cost compared to other perks to take
you didn't start off saying that it was a meme option and hence how the conversation turned out
it just how it be
300 base damage and 800 critical damage means its a +100% modifier on 500
even as a meme it would irk me
But that generally shows the issue with crit damage. You need massive differences between base/crit and a huge crit modifier on top.
i personally do understand why they would make the calculation that way
ah yes, time to download ultrakill mod
uh
But now i have to use ammo crates no fun 😦
if i can speak to CS majors mathemtical skills
The only weapons I've actually noticed the lack of ammo economy now, thanks to survivalist being nerfed, is Ogryn's Rumbler and Grenadier Gauntlet
They arent very good at math
because if you're comparing +20% crit chance and +20% crit damage, then you can do the comparison directly with how crit damage is calculated
💀
except it's also insane that weakspot damage is calculated that way as well
uh. . . mediocre more than bad
wait how did they get nerfed
if anything, crit damage should've been the only thing calculated this way under my reasoning
been out of the loop
Survivalist is on a 5 second cooldown now
LMAO
on top of the new rounding changes from a few patches back
if ogryns suffer with certain weapons, they could technically just buff some max ammo for them
people have to loot for ammo now 😔
Yeah, its literally just a case of buffing GG/Rumbler ammo pools
they dont need more buffs smh...
nerf ogryn...
they don't need to be Kickbacks 55 or whatever the fuck it has.
But 35 for rumbler and ~40 for GG would go a long way
what do you mean i cant spam ranged into hordes anymore?

I mean, its buff to two of ogryn's most mediocre weapons.
kickback still being a menace
Literally everything in the game performs better than GG and Rumbler
and that's just sad

kickback while playing kickback my beloved
That or nerf everything to the level of GG/Rumbler I guess
Take your pick fatshark
ultimately I don't care
nerf everything to autopistol level
be based
shredder makes me sad
wish it had the damage of the graia brauto
hold on
this warning system is new
is there a fucking easdy way to just
collect shit
no it
isnt
new
im
jsut
su\i
No, the warning system isn't new.
wrong thing wait
there you go
why this wasnt available day one
fatshark is a uh. . .
I dunno
their UI work has never been super stellar
clickclickclickclickclickclickclickclickclickclickclickclickclickclickclickclickclickclickclickclickclickclickclickclickclickclickclickclickclickclickclickclickclickclickclick
Granted: Almost no one does good UI work
penance update experience
feels like im back spaming my knife already
so its only 1 or 2 clicks per visit
also i just checked the posts for that mod and it kinda looked like a steam forum for a second
finally i could just fuckin change my characters name???
smh i'm spending half the map with 0 ammo, un nerf the keystone so I can have FUN.

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Got touched by the Serbian warp.
Pro Tip: You’re never too old to fall for a phishing scheme
Also Discord support is hilariously dogshit so please, everybody…enable your 2FA and do everything you can to hold onto your account. There’s no guarantee you get it back
sounds about right for discord support
Did you at least get to marry the Nigerian prince
Just like, don't click anything shady. Have your friends downloaded so if an impostor hacks their account they are still shady.
Had that happen w/ my best friends account and it was like "bro you've never, not once, apologized for anything AND there's a link?" nahhhh
wdym downloaded
lol I just got through going through my backlog messaging everyone they’d hit up to disregard any messages
Did you press on the link EGS DISCORD NITRO FREE?
pvp game term, just means you know their every move as if you have their mind downloaded and open on your computer.
you dont keep your friends downloaded?
why does no one use the XII chain axe?
I didn’t realize I had a literal ogryn on my friends list though. He actually went on to defend the scammer when someone else from another discord tried to tell him the account was cooked lmao
thats a odd term thank god i dont play pvp games anymore
Nah, they got the best person they could’ve gotten first. Buddy of mine who’s Finnish and doesn’t speak great English has worked on lil game jam projects before. Getting a message from him with a new link didn’t seem unusual at the time
Lotta weapons are good rn and I've noticed that people gravitate towards stuff that has good crowd clear, with an exception to Knife since it got too much momentum at launch. It's a great weapon that makes elites turn into cotton candy, esp for the Twins.
that'll do it. easy tho be like me and have no friends cant be scammed then
I still got bad vibes but ignored the red flags. Going forwards I’m subjecting anyone who sends me links to the discord call sound
Mk IV Chaxe does too, the lights are wonderful for small elites.
I remember getting a message like this around 12 years ago when i used Skype. I immediately understood it was a scamer, as he asked me to borrow some money. I contacted my friend and he went and restored/changed password/acc.
There are also phishing link checkers that'll tell you if a site isn't a real one.
That’s the funny part, I did check the site and it came back clean
Hmmmm
You could send the link to a developer for an api to help with security
Some people are going creative with scams
like recent one a scam website emulating Wuthering Waves (new mobile gacha game)
I looked into it before I just dove straight in. Antivirus scan came up clean with Windows Defender but Malwarebytes brain bursted that shit
It was pretty big, since the devs even responded to that
Literally just a “Hey dude you got a sec?”
But it must’ve been a whole squad of them because whoever they stuck on my account the next day hit up my best friend like a straight up Nigerian prince
“helo friend and how r u”

I was like “Bro if he hit me up like the trog he was we wouldn’t be in this mess
”
Do you think scammers would fall for ip grabbers
Depends how you hid it but probably
yes
the axe is SUCH a good hoard clearer
like i can kill mutants with a darn heavy 😄
and hordes just get flung around and killed in 1 to 2 hits
most scammers are dum asf
There was that one guy who would post YouTube videos of him actively pulling up a scammers location while on team viewer with them
not dumb maybe but they are fucking naive
They’re dumdums from poor countries, they don’t do it because they’re smart
Thats such a power move lmao
However I still fell for it so I’m equally dumb
they think somehow that, since they are the scammer, aint no way they are able to get scammed
If you're killing Mutants w/ a heavy you can with a light too. The Rashad and Antax heavies, and the Achlys' H2 and H3 have a 0.5 ADM against maniac and the lights don't.
Very goofy weapon.
https://www.youtube.com/@JimBrowning love this guy
ADM?
He was a savage. They’d start yelling in the office and basically hit the breaker to shut the building down thinking they were cooked
adm = armour damage modifier
caxes unintuitively deal less damage to maniacs on the overhead heavies than the lights
so guys
you think this weapon is bricked? it doesnt have the modifiers i want, but i honestly still like it cause those modifiers are ones that are sort of never bad:
bricked imo
You better be lucky the gold one is good
head taker or the other power one would be nice
cause thats the one it sorta needs to like hit that TINY sweetspot
even if i cant, wether i change sprint efficiency or block efficiency, the other modifier is still nice tbf
like its not AMAZING, but we could have much worse modifiers on that weapon
like groaner damage or some dumb shit like that
Does Evi still run Flakiac for perks?
Last blessing could save it
Mk15 yeah
Its the safest option
Flakiac or Flak + Melee Elites
tmk it doesnt lemme test in psykhanium 🙂
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use breakpoint calc idk
nono i have mods, i will use the axe with some other stuff to see it ^^
k?
oh i should have mentioned, i use martyrdom, thats maybe why i hit not new breakpoint
marty isn't that bad if you stay low hp
This is the one I've been running. The MkXV is nice but I really prefer the moveset of the old one
big if on the low hp
Very solid evis
I had this for trying out the 15 around Twins
I just really dont like the push attack because my muscle memory is SO used to the MkII
It's also kinda slow
Flak + Maniac/Elites/Unyielding. Cara iirc can hit smth on the II but isn't needed on the XV.
do u get anythin from the uh harder version of the twins
where u hit the bell multiple times or smth
I ran this one before perks 2.0 but it's still a decent weapon
A fancy icon
^ Fancy icon for Damnation Twins
i dont mean damnation
Bells just let you skip to boss if someone's done it before
there was like a way to make em extra hard or smth
You just forfeit rewards
yea hidden hardcore mode
Oh was that it? I just thought it was a skip
Yea we know
I didn't
was wonderin if there was anythin from that
i did damnation one
A fancy icon!
The twins were a perfect testing grounds for the mk15
give me asec to boot up the game ill share a pic of it
I've become a laspistol enjoyer
Why did nobody tell me Ghost + Infernus was disgustingly good?
It's the damnation bells but prettier, basically
nvm it looks like this #zealot-class message
i can in fact do very well for most of it, like in terms of dodging, i can oneshot crushers, here:
hmm
Cant wait to run this when recon finally becomes good
good most people that run marty dont do it right and give it a bad name
when anything other then plasma gun and power sword gets good ill play 10x more vet
thats MY axe btw
I'm still holding out for a massive Lucius buff
no. thats MY axe!
Our axe
Bayonet stronk
hand it over
que national anthem
This is my powersword!
I mean there was a while where the bayonet would inherit bm
There are many like it but this one is mine!
but yeah, i feel like the axe is the only real weapon for martyrdom cause it ticks all boxes as it high base damage, profits from attack speed and has a good cleave and amazing single target damage
But mom said it's my turn with the axe
🤔
I mean you can still get the crusher onehit without marty
evis with marty is my fav
Marty works with everything, there's really only a couple weapons you'd not run on it
gives the XV the needed attack speed
right edit
momentum works with everything too though 
Nuh uh there was a patch note about it so obviously it cannot be used anymore 😔
meh 25% of the top was a much needed nerf for how much it gives you tbh
still very good
survivalist rebuff when
use ammo crate
yes.
i want to shoot it
no
yes
you will have no ammo and be happy
Make a melee vet
yea i'd rather fucking die
Even as a melee vet every gun is cracked on vet
here if i had power on my axe (please dont mind how much i fucking whiffed here, somehow i am incapable of tracking stuff that isnt moving xD):
I was joking about how alot of people view nerfs, my real take is that i thought it was odd that they went after momentum first but I am indifferent to the change itself
i cant stand ranged vet anymore
Idk im no balance god but the class reworks added way too much power creep gotta lower it some how
dont know what itis
i liked ranged vet a fuck ton last i played
cant get into it now
Momentum was nerfed based on usage
🤔
Most used keystone for zealot probs by a significant margin so they want people to rather use others now
I think they made Inexorable Judgement better for bad players and worse for good players
i need ghost on my XII probably
isnt that the blessing that makes you invulnrable to ranged after a headshot
I always thought Piety was the popular one though
Yes
yeah I wouldve expected piety to be more popular
Nah it's cause of all the knife zealots that displace how popular it is
I would know I'm one of those trash knife zealots i know my kind well
But knife zealots run judgement
do fucking ranged like your supposed to vet babies
they nerfed whatever the speed key stone didn't they I didn't really notice a difference imma be real
I also just don't buy "nerf based on usage" most of the time
It has less stacks now
no range only melee now
I run Piety with my knife lol but I think it drops off too much when I go on assassination runs
nah, melee claw vet ftw
do ur damn job vets!!!!!!!!
what are your thoughts on this axe?
what should i change etc, first time axe user on zealot here
Its okay, slap +Flak and either Maniac or Melee elites
tho Shred is probably better on this one instead of BM
but you cant change it (unless you leave 4% crit chance there and just use +Flak)
so just replace perks
cool, i think i have t4 shred. if i have a free slot for perk, which should i replace if ever?
Isn't piety just good for everything
There are weapons thats wont benefit much from crit
Just in general though, find piety is just good for most builds
Yeah, probably will get nerfed next
the #3 node (Momentum) nerf came out of nowhere
everyone was expecting piety nerf
Very real
what weapons would you guys like to see when (if) we get new weapons?
took the words out of my mouth
I want more 2handers overall
2hand powersword, just greatsword in general, power-glaive could be cool but doubt
would love a 2H sword of some type or something with a shield with a one handed melee
Ogryn needs a massive hammer or sword honestly
kinda like the big guys but not like a maul or whatever it is that thing has
Pretty meh for hammer
I want a stop sign
Or a giant steel chair
power chair
Hulk Hogryn
Idk, i feel like zealot needs something new
I love my evis but a 2hand powersword or glaive would go hard
Power greatsword for vet burning blade powersword/greatsword on zealot force claymore and a big hammer for ogryn
intuit it through the morphogenetic field (this information can't be found in-game by default)
bruh... why the hell not
I heard thunder hammers don't got crit... what about crusher
Every weapon is a base crit chance of 5%
Any weapon with more would have a crit bonus which you can see directly in the stats breakdown
most weapons have a base crit of 0%
it's just that classes have a base crit chance of themselves
https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/152 this may make it easier for you to find out crit and stuff like such
Any weapon with actual good critical damage scaling would have a finesse stat, and you can see how much In the stats breakdown too
But it is like 5 right
For all of them?
why is this the description of the knife punch
ah I see
I always stab with my fist wdym
the stab isn't the problem its the "a good combo starter" being a lie if you are talking about its stagger
2.5%
Ty
Yeah, you just stab them with your hand like in Jojo
lmao
certain automatics (stubbers, i dont remember if its for any other ogryn weapon) have -2% crit chance
I think Achlys might not have that penalty?
it does
Ah, it's just the longer string then?
yeah
Rare ogryn weapon that actually benefits from it a decent amount, at least vs crushers
Well, I guess I'm just out right wrong about that but everything else I said is correct
psyker also has 7.5% base crit chance (why? who knows)
They used to the warp to steal it from the other classes
cole can u do backflip pls
no

Okay, fine, I'll do it just this once for nothing
I guess I can do it one more time for nothing.
this will go down in the history of all the backflips
I already did it
You just weren't looking
nooooo why didn't u film it
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I hate it put it back on
my psyker so pretty
no
How is the Bolt Gun? is it any good? what should it generally be used for with Zealot?
my psyker looks like he eats bugs
bolt gun is the worst gun
IAG, HH, Boltgun, Evis, Crusher, Thammer.
I feel like when I played when the game came out, it was strong... but now it felt weak... like why would bolt gun be so weak?
what the fuck.
no fun allowed
Back prior to it's nerfs, Boltgun had Pinning Fire which was +100% power for just using the weapon. After its nerf, and multiple enemy health buffs, it'd feel like it was weaker.
why did i get such a good roll for a tac axe on psyker 😭
do blessings cross over characters i forgot
It's still very much strong but no longer a BiS brainless weapon, Shredder Autopistol got the worst treatment in that it's just bad now.
I can't say anything on bolter I know Jack shit about them
And I'm pretty sure crusher has finesse?
no
I could be wrong despite it being my backup main weapon on zealot
Yeah it felt like nothing... totally not a boltgun... it used to just mowdown everyone...
Yeah I'm just stupid then lmao
GOOD! FUCK THAT WEAPON!
Earned blessings do yes
goated
i have uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
'hit 5 enemies or mor for damage boost' on a dclaw on psyker
goatd..
It still mows down everyone, just needs to actually build for it instead of being the default. If you minmax and have a touch of luck it can drop 1 Crusher per shot even on Zealot. Even without that setup it holds the best Crusher clear (and by proxy just has good elite clear in general) for Zealot, on Vet it's hard to compete w/ Plasma Gun but it'll still out-DPS Crushers.
yall are not ready for the type of shit im on
hello im here to ask about the opening at this applebees
this is just a guy now
hmm I see
having a tough time deciding what kind of build to do with Crusher
We call this
A power creep
Literally any works
Piety crit cdr is good cuz of how many targets it hits for cdr and has good crit damage scaling
Martyr makes it's good damage even better while also making you have one of the safest builds in the game with your hp dr and crushers cc
And momentum is good with everything
mogging everyone in the everglades
yea maybe ur mogging a newt!
mogged
Might end up joining the enclave and brotherhood
yeah atm doing momentum with a lot of the impact talent points
It crits a lot? I was kinda worried about it not reducing the cooldown by much...
How much crack were the devs smoking when they added loner to the talent tree? 🤔
I dont hear you complaining when i crutch with my toughness regen when all of you are dead
strawman whats that?
Maybe they all died because you werent around
🤔
touche, but i actually stick with my team tyvm

man, this blades of faith penance is wild 😴
The loner, shroudfield, and throwing knives penance has kinda made me want to try being a shitbag
me when a talent goes against the core game mechanic of "stick together" and promotes a selfish, usually ignorant get-yourself-killed playstyle
Not that throwing knives or shroudfield are shitbaggy, I just mean going quintessential pub knife zealot
people did this long before loner was added
well yes
it just incentivizes it
is it ignorance or full on arrogance as a knife zealot when it happens to me its usually the latter tbh
if you understand how coherency regen works it actually hardly incentivizes anything at all
because it's very close to not being an aura at all
my team is competent they can afford me not being there, suprise trapper, or crusher group
with how little toughness you get from it
Loner zealot running ahead to try and get backstab shooter kills, while three ogryn chase them down to get their own in-coherency penance done
Less about toughness regen, more about helping eachother out
^ my bets runs are won with teamwork and awareness not individual skill
best*
there's multiple different ways you can be completely useless and not helping the rest of your team and only one of them is running ahead with loner
i joined a match in progress yesterday to a zealot running away from a pack of crushers because they were running bleed knife without uncanny and just light spamming
there's just as large a group of people who refuse to ever hit the W key and fight every single backspawn regardless of what it is
and that happens regardless of aura
Right side piety talents and scourge makes any weapon crit a lot with a total of 55% reliable crit chance
The key is that crusher has good crit damage
For cdr, the main part isn't how often it crits, but how many enemies it hits in its crit, since each hit enemy per crit counts as it's own instance of reduction, which the crusher does pretty well, but gets even better when you use the special activation
they tried to bait the crushers into me so i stealthed as vet and walked away
people have been running ahead and doing stupid shit since knife was in the game, which is forever
lmao
Beautiful
uh shroudfield backstab heavy dork, or dodge around and backstab heavy
I am in gremlin mode rn, zooming across the map alone looking for ranged mobs to stab, i don’t like it but a man’s gotta do what a man’s gotta do 
knife has one of if not the best dodge in the game
knife zealots have never heard of heavy attacks wdym
LOL
bro did not read what I replied to
i was alone in the morningstar when the emperor callout happened
if u wanna grind it out an easy way is getting the manymoretries mod and waiting for a ranged only maelstrom
as a vermintide player who has experienced many arrogant distancing elf players who die and leave, moving to darktide and seeing a talent that supports such a playstyle was pretty interesting
in a way you get it, and yet you still hate it
so my zealot just yelled ''FOR THE GOD EMPEROR'' with no one else
you are correct
also do note that (at least) most of the time stalkers won't count for penance progress
... theres ranged only?
yes
wild
that sounds like it could be really difficult or really easy
I watched this happen after I got stomped off the map through a wall by a plogryn
It was a vet with lacerate and no uncanny
it's trivial until you get 20 reapers shooting down a hallway with no flank routes
which is really fucking funny to watch
this is why we save our grenades
smoke grenade poggers
i never voluntarily play without throwing knives
i was coerced into using immo nades for the penance and i wanted to rope myself
the og.......
I wish i could read the third picture
hey, immo is fine
knives just let u get away with more bullshit
i have adapted a muscle memory for knives that does not in the slightest translate to other grenades
look at specialist head
hit blitz key
my hand is filled with grenade
i look stupid
you look that anyway

shalom
thanks i hate it, but i wanna love it
Crusher needs literally none of the impact points
It has so much innate impact with both the special activation and the fact that you literally can't not have an impact blessing (3/4 of its blessing pool are)
its more the non texture on the back, i love that shade of blue
I can relate to your statement josho
also opium fit...i didnt even think of that
played with a nades on accident and tried to trow them into a specialist
i feel da exact same.........
it'l;l probably get fixed eventually
stupid
shut up goose
real tho
can i just say i love this goblin meme format
will never switch again
hello
lmao
what did i do



oooh I see
which would you recommend? crit piety or martyrdom? I feel like judgement is the most boring of all 3
or well judgement feels better than piety, it's just that the crit cooldown reductions are so fucking nice
Honestly I have used momentum exclusively any time I've used crusher
Recently made a piety build for it but just haven't used it yet since that required me to have the willpower to put down my devils claw
guys what should i play
devil's claw?
u have dd2?
dd2?
dragons dogma 2
The sword yeah
nah its too expensive
So I haven't actually tried piety crusher myself yet
yeah i decided to just kinda path my own thingy with the stun nade as well, also not taking the impact nodes... I do like the crit cooldown reduction, so might go with that, since spamming chastice is so much fun
ooh that one...
hm, what do u have?
siege
eh
Court ordered flak helmet
what else
Risk of rain 🗣️
Yeah you never see anyone use that huh lmao
if i play ror someone i dont like talking to will try talking to me
That sounds extremely solvable ngl
I used it a bit when i first started but once I unlocked the chain weapons, there was no looking back. im sure if you build it right it can do great just like anything else
block them?
we have mutual friends
Quick do I get chick fil a or in n out for lunch
um
where my andor fans at
and?
in n out i guess
you will eat healthy
fair enough
That's the beauty of the internet
You can choose who you do and don't talk to
im playing ultrakill rn tho so later
idk i dont have a ghif to send
why block peole when you can tell them to fuck off
wha why even ask what to play
i believe that
30 minute lunch breaks in retail don't allow for that
Why block people when you can reach through the screen and punch them

seems like you need to prep ur meals
because stealth zealot takes more skill than chastise in the eyes of normal people (for some reason)
exactly
MACHINE! I WILL SPLAY THE GORE OF YOUR PROFANE FORM ACROSS THE STARS
Too much effort.....
Not today Satan
is good?
im doing brutal cybergrind rn
Absolutely incredible
cuz i suck at the actual game
Brutal is the new difficulty isnt it
yeah
Btw, Chat, i have played a whole bunch of Martyr's Purpose (losing HP refunds ability) and I Have Thoughts
the farthest i got was wave 26 on violent i havent even tried brutal yet, violent was already hard enough
Why would you torture yourself like that
oooo lemme guess, its not asbad as you thought?
i knew it
I'm a chronic damage taking addict
self flagelation type zealot beat
See that's just strange pardner
masochist if you wanna get weird with it
you and i both know they exist in the warhammer universe
we're talking warhammer not reality
though...they do exist im sure
wonder how much deeper i can dig this hole
Nah but for real, i played with it for a couple days and i was like "yah this is exactly what i want out of my videogame".
And then i went on here and everyone told me its bad because it doesnt work on toughness.
And now, a week later, i'm still convinced its a good option that might not be fun to other people but sure is for me
I mean
Would you wanna talk to a person with a knife in their hand
Interrogating you
Zealot Barbarian

you're rewarded for good toughness management, is what i really think it is
yea yea you shouldnt be taking hits in the first place
But consider: ||sick butterfly knife tricks||
I would geniuenly walk away
That would give off the same energy as someone blowing a vape cloud in my face
what if its your friend you know showing you their cool tricks
Then I'm def walking away
These are the same people who almost killed someone cause they thought it was cool to electrocute a bullet
I wish the knife balancing inspect animation could actually be seen by other people and wasnt just the default one
i wish all knife zealots spontaneously combusted in a fiery explosion
not everyone gets their wishes
do you mean a taser? or actually electric bullet, does it have a fucking battery in it to generate charge?
consider
I will be a benefit to the team, and you will like it
This is worth gettin from Melk?
thats a funny joke
that looks almost perfect to me
Like
Took two loose wires
And put them on a .22
The bullet whizzed passed my other friend's face
Like almost grazed his cheek
Good toughness management?
Don't you mean Chorus of [ADJECTIVE] Fortitude?
oh, you slipped up and got netted or pounced, but looks whos there in an instant to save your ass, accidents happen yknow
@ivory marlin It's time I made a grave mistake
I love it when other people have it, Im bad at remembering to use it myself tbh
I'm buying stardew
ive only ever heard good things
"look who's there in an instant to save your ass" as the knife zealot gets killed by the 8 poxwalkers behind him that he didnt kill or push away
What to change; dont use knife on any other opratrives before.
Thats your knife player habits speaking, and i respect that
all of my knife zealot encounters have been:
knife zealot rushes ahead
dies
gets rescued
rushes ahead
kills nothing
dies
on repeat
or they stay in the back and dont kill anything
not even picking up plasteel
at least i was like accidents happen i wasnt trying to shit on your skills, I dont usually let myself get surrounded and just hit like that, im almost always sprinting or dodging, but like i said we all slip up
Tbf i'm the kinda build that somewhat relies on getting rescued, so i like those
and im telling you i dont play that way simple as
stereotypes are shitty, i guess is my real point

Always a pleasure to play with a stealther that reloads my healthbar for 4 more near-consecutive choruses
the only good knife zealots are the one that bring a flamer to horde clear and grab plasteel
at least with other weapons players can accidentally be good
Why? I feel like flamer is most useful for hoard clearing
Controversial opinion, but if i have 7 wounds i should be using them
flamers annihilate trash enemies pretty handily with a few single digits of ammo
thats why you get +elites or +flak, so you kill mixed hordes in an instant
so you preferentially just go into elites/flak to kill tougher enemies with less ammo
It's locked now 
i want those damage buffs not to mention each wounds is a bigger part of the healthbar that gets the 40% damage reduction, also if i do go down i still have more max health, its really just a very safe build and can still do good numbers
also its fun to be almost dead and smashing through hordes like its nothing
you dont really need quickflame since you've got +reload anyways
Not in a "take damage for free" way, but ogryn want what i have when it comes to crowd-control CC and invulnerability windows
Ive definitely played with ogryns that do better its usually shieldgryns that know what they're doing
this is the ideal flamer @cedar nexus for reference
1k hours and i still dont have quickflame 4 on my flamer
its... its beautiful
This is actually incredibly helpful, thank you
I love playing with the flamer so much
Tbh one of my fave parts of Chorus is that even after the channel is done, your over-max toughness guarrantees no health damage spillover as long as you keep it up, so there is no getting double-melee'd for a sliver of health
sometimes i do feel like im ruining my teamates fun by just melting the wave with one flamer spam, but its so fun as the one doing it
yeah, it's just lame compared to how cool the other weapons are
Is rampage and headtaker still a thing for heavy sword?
behold
how do you use the heavy sword special attack
you use it on maulers
to stagger them
you used to be able to guarantee stagger crushers reapers and bulwarks but
latest patch made that nice utility no longer possible
so its just for maulers
Played that too, pretty different.
Zealot's actually allowed to deal damage, while ogryn can stagger even the horrors beyond comprehension
you use special to depressingly fight carapace
cuz that's as good as the heavy sword gets against cara
i have a 7 and a 9 pretty well rolled
Which fit is the hardest
Yeah for sure 
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/336338309754388481/1233621862802657280/Warhammer_40000_Darktide_replay_2023.12.04-02.13.mp4?ex=662dc363&is=662c71e3&hm=864e47b239ca9d6a396fad177e1b7fdab92d86f9979cbefb2cfe171b1f6ef4ef&
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/336338309754388481/1233622910824878080/Darktide_replay_2024.04.18-03.20.mp4?ex=662dc45d&is=662c72dd&hm=bd11cbaeee625166521890559f64eb62d785226ce7c3e6176ca942b52709a5aa&
cole wanna play aruric?
im better then randos but thats about it
i dont want to hate on your weapon choice but the clips are not exactly good at proving devils claw is cool
it just looks like a club that tries to make itself look sharp
crusher >>>>>>> everything else
I'm at work
:(

i love killing oliver
I didn't even say nothing
you implied that im at the skill level of randos
This is lible
well....
go to bed
Ngl, after those death's claw clips, i think i am BELOW rando level
its 2 pm and i woke up 2 hours ago
reported for toxicity
who you gonna report me to? myself?
hank
fuck
or aquila
aquila would take my side
incan will hear of this (and then do nothing about it)
u gamin josho?
i am but you think im bad
whats ur jump key
roughly 2m ordos spent just to get this for hadron to kill it harder
Hadron out here bankrupting the whole Mourningstar
yeah i can game
am striketeam 50
Tbh i thought martyr's purpose being alright would be a hotter take than it ended up being
i could just leave myself alone with my current hsword but my perfectionist mindset doesnt want that
i need the weakspot into flak/elites
and cleave damage at 80%
thats all i need
There was one clip I have when I was trying out dclaw when it was buffed on my vet and it was the cleanest clip ever
Reasonable community in this game so far, y'all are awesome
we try our best
u werent around for darcy photoshopping impossible weapon stat rolls
when people used headhunters 😔
i was surprised nobody was shooting straight into the shield before noticing that 2/4 were dead
the fact almost nobody runs vraks3/agri iag nowadays really makes me realize how stupid the average player is
So that means that there's a chance the dead people got to watch that and be fuelled with dopamine
I realized I had a problem wasting like 20k on a ogryn stubber
And stopped before it got worse
the thunder hammer roll that costed more than 20m in total to reach
The crafting update will fix all
Trust
it wont
This clip was before I became a zealot main and I still really enjoy that gun
But my main zealot playstyle has infected my vet so my main weapon there is now revolver
Trust the process
i legitimately cant fathom the mind of someone who's been here for over a year and still thinks that it's crafting that's keeping them from truly enjoying the game
which is to say i dont think anyone still actively making complaints is going to be pleased when the update drops
and thats also not to say the crafting isnt balls
Yeah no I think crafting isn't that bad
It's not GOOD, but it's not game ruining like people paint it to bw
Like the big issue with DT being a live service
i can, hyperfixation is a common occurrence in humans, they'd rather blame one clear villian than believe a myraid of negative factors
Is how thrown around this game's story is
You have people praising you for being the best
crafting isnt bad because once you reach the "endgame" the only bonus you get from crafting is like
Then the next mission
maybe a 1-4% dmg increase
darktides story could be improved by cutting out everything that happens after grendyls speech
I mean rescuing Zola is kinda why she trusts us
darktides story could be improved by not having one
With important shit
but like yes
But it's never explained why Grendyl thinks we're his top people
When we never fucking met grendyl

Bro is just like
"I trust these four people who I'm getting mixed reports about"
Like nothing about that makes sense
i don't think we are grendyl's best? have they said taht lol
Yes
You can litterally hear the Nobles say this
In one of the missions MArrow controls
i dont exactly think theres another group of 4 individuals that are killing beast of nurgles on an hourly basis
grendyl been notified of us through his vox device, in plain text while he gets to go have his fun single player RPG ala rogue trader style
that's my headcanon
Someone just brought there dog into the store and it looks like it's never been groomed in its entire life
Some people shouldn't own dogs
rannick is just his desk boy to do the busywork while he does cool stuff
very true!
Grendyl and his two assistant managers
we are the mission table npcs from dragon age
kill mittins
he is probably cool and has interesting npc companions 😦
were you waiting for me to show up
no i just caught you at the end of a game
did u win
and i have discord on a tablet and with a keyboard ready to insult you
yes i won
i never lose
well done my friend ( :
I don't think we'll ever meet Grendyl
100% winrate
Just get these vague hints
100%
except for that one time he exploded his own brain 4 times before we got wiped by a boss spawn

