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2015 etf2l was peak
whats etf2l
european competitive league
eu 💔

Oh also there's like a surprising amount of human cheaters in TF2 mixed in with the bots
i never could pull this off but i could tell you i could do 200 kph on pyro dodgeball
Honestly I can't do 200 kph on pyro dodgeball so that's very impressive to me
dodgeball players r scary
orcs vs ogres
godgamers vs gamers
oh ya now i remember, i played snipezilla alot as well
i can't snipe for shit but sniping other snipers was different :p
there was some time i played mge 1v1s
i basically played everything except for the main game lol
i was even like on the same lounge server for a year
I main med but I can play every class at a decently high level but I just mostly play pubs
The community gamemodes are fun but i hate having to download so much and sometimes half the stuff doesn't even work with configs :(
and mained scout when i was doing mge
wooo I love not being able to see ANYTHING in slenderfortress bloodwood
2 shot other scouts
i got on a non private community server once
do the two knives have identical lights
the sprays there
i can't do that anymore
it was quite hard ngl
made me not go back
usually alot of pony (porn)
just degeneracy in general
i didn't know what was sparkle tots or whatever untill tf2
i joined a server and was wondering how come so many ponies
i just kept palying though
dont' ask why, i just didn't think much of it
yeah i used to love everyone before tf2
and in pubs they can't spray so they have to use signs or just pollute the chat 💔 💔
dats weird most of the ones i go to work
Like moments like these are fun for the first time after 10 seconds but not when it's 10 matches in a row for 10 minutes straight
don't know what valve was thinking when they made the objector
it was another time i guess
Maybe it's the config u use? hmm
there was a really good saxton hale server that was honestly quite balanced in both sides favor but it got shut down
I don't like most hale servers, too boring and hale sided
Maybe I should just remove mine since the 64bit update dropped and see how much it impacts my performance
i never change anything
ya the vscript hale is sooo overpowered lol
64bit doesnt have bots yet
Some already came back
yet
i think the one i like most is still zf
Ran into a bunch on harvest yesterday stacking w/ friends
theres something about being a heavy with the speed of scout that respawns you and your team instantly that is so funny
@fair igloo you never played zombie fortress?
Which one? The zombie escape kind or the medic vs engineer kind
the one with perks
umm i'm not sure, the l4d2 clone one??
scout heavy and spy are zombies
I might have but only like once or twice
rest is humans
both teams are human players
both teams get perks
like you can choose
awww man
big bertha
should I USE THIS OR BLOW MYSELF UP
my eyes
Fear the 3200 dpi button
Smackdown to uncanny
Crit chance to flak
Ez
YES SIR
The penetration being a low stat doesn't matter much since you'll basically bypass armor with uncanny
which of the autoguns are better
btw i heard tiny tina not so fun
I feel 3 had good class system but the weapons were kinda bloated
i played tiny tina at launch, it's a much smaller game and while the class system it had was neat, it didn't have the content to make me go back for more
its DLC model looked pretty terrible though
smaller game with DLC that barely adds anything
@lusty turtle my ipad decided to do a montage
GOOD EATS
the worlds most cursed calendar
im going to ban you
Actual slop
BRO THIS LOOKS LIKE SATIRE
what am i looking at
whenever i p lay borderlands after a while i just drop it randomly like all super grindy games
ALso it doesn't feel very interactive to me
(i think TPS was slightly more interactive with claptraps skills but eh)
pre-sequel would've been incredible if they didn't axe it after claptastic voyage
presequel was the best borderlands
i know people point to 2 a lot, and i agree for the first playthrough
but once you get into the grind beyond that
slag especially
is a stupid fucking mechanic
Why u posting indian food man?
and there was sadly not a lot of agile player expression
It’s my “good eats” montage
i mean at least mmo grind you had to learn rotations or what right
borderlands after sometime just feels like press F when in danger, other than that hold W and M1
i sure enjoy swapping to another weapon to make my guns deal actual damage
like the unique guns like DPUH or that wave gune was cool but in the end its just representations of damage
here my massive kock

HI ICE ILY
I would rather starve than eat whatever this is
he got that frosty flavour
so anyway yeah the low grav, the ass slams, cryo, and all the chars were cool except for nisha
yeah low grav and the need to breathe air (that i didn't experience because iw as the robot) was some of the more interactive parts
With Stan's cooking that could be a traditional water / mud flood or it could be the flood from halo
i think i understand what you're saying. it doesn't go much further than abilities and pointing and shooting, yeah?
other than that its usual w+m1 borderlands gameplay
the gameplay was much more fluid and it wasnt an endless cycle of slag > my actual gun for 5s > repeat
even the abilities are just damage
maybe maya's one had some utility where she floated the guy but eh
what was the name of that damaged gain per enemy penetrated skill, that shit was hilarious
b0re
casually one shotting the bunker with a grey pistol
but yes
one shotting bunker or lining up the bots on hyperius so their hitboxes overlap with his for an instant kill
at least the internet humour hasnt aged terribly
...
... oh
oh no
tiny tina tho, still the best dlc
(btw i find it quite different from something tradional say like Doom where its also technically just walking and shooting)
bl2 or bl tps?
tbh both
2 but you could probably count tps anyways since it only released 2 years after and has the same writer
actually all of them, really
nah, just anything after 1 imo
i feel borderlands doesn't have internet humor but more of game humor
internet humor the context (imo) is that everyone thinks they are important and smart
Game humor has that understanding between you and the game that this is actually kind of dumb and not to be said irl
🤔
no it definitely has internet humour
70% of the jokes are just lmao what if so random amirite
maybe i fele that way because its a game character doign the funny thing and not someone im actually communicating to.
some land (shoot me in the face!), most dont, and an unfortunate number are just cringe
but i fele that isn't really internet humor
I can never finish any borderlands game
The handling of the weapons makes me want vomit
not to call out your age but
if you were following borderlands preBL2
And then as it got released
It was 100% internet humour
Ice I miss you
hmmm, im 23 this year
like unmistakably so
i believe i was like 7 or 8 years old when the first one came out
ye bl1 was my college freshman year, bl2 later
yea borderlands is extremely in tune with internet humor of it's time
they were absolutely leaning into that because the internet was freshly becoming mainstream
its 100% that in fact
i think handsome jack speak like typical forum guy but the humour itself i sitll find it quite hard to connect to internet xD
thats cause you grew up when internet already came into meatspace
also, i learnt that what i perceived to be internet speak sometimes are just american colloqualisms (fuck idk ho spell that)
the line used to be much less blurry
like you couldnt just say 'lol' out loud, idk how else to frame it lmao
ahhh
the internet was not always so pervasive
auric storm survivor done
What keystone and ability are best for crusher?
You can still be instakilled by spewers
give me 5 minutes to find some example about what i thoguht was internet speak but actually just american sayings
any other old fucks out here wanna help explain what it was like to live before the internet was just a part of real life the way tv is?
Now do it again
hahaha

life is strange
Beginning to despise spewers again
i mean not really but sometimes my brain tricks me into thinking that
last match was so stressful and I could have died in so many moments it was crazy
there was a time where explaining a meme to someone also meant explaining memes as a whole
it was different! you werent there!
At least they made the fuckers not do an absurd amount of damage anymore
lmao parents be like
Thats the issue
or old people in general
They still do now
we recently taught stan how to alt tab so there are people out there still
I got oneshot by a single speck of acid
our work is never done
@spare dome apparently people actually do say
Pick a lane, folks.
In real life. Something so abstract and informal yet somewhat authoratative (? not sure if right word, but urm, like putting your foot down) i thought only existed on the internet
aen't youat most early 30s
which jokes were specifically internet jokes
college bl1 means you were 18
ye
means you are around 10 years older than me at most
randos also refuse to listen to anything
i only knew about the rage comics and the coloured background kind like trex and the baby
are you american?
Nowadays you can shout trogdor anywhere and people will know
nah american-lite, canadian
so would you really say somehting like "pick a lane folks" irl?
i have
its a real phrase
reading the title made me wheeze
like two shakes of a lambs tail
what do the things under the names mean
so its a phase people talk like movie main characters or its normal day to day shit people wouldn't judge you for
im not sure what to think of saying something like that irl now
its just a phrase
i ask the 2 other players if they can just get the points of interrest and go to the extraction cause i can handle the missile launch
but they just dick around until its done dont help clearing the heavy nest or clearing it during the launch nah
they need to waste time after its been launched and a dude complains about samples being lost cause he died at the extraction
when they could just listen
The X/Y indicators, or the ones next to a character's level?
with my background, saying stuff like this really doesn't make sense and i can't fully explain why.
then explain only half of it
you would defo be seen as "weird" or at least overly urm, what would be the right word, bold?
^ and this
you know the feelign you get when someone is trying too hard to make a statement?
same feeling if i heard someone say that irl
under the names
The icons are how many melk weeklies that character has done
im goated
quirked up white boy goated with the sauce
its a very interesting topic to me because like to other peepo is normal yet to me is so abnormal and i can't understand why
I feel like i would learn something about culture when i can understand why to some people its normal yet to people like me its weird
(sexual style)
i get that im overly serious for something so trivial but its not everyday i get to learn and interact with a culture that is quite different from mine / local
I feel like I'm one of the youngest regulars here lmao
erm arent u 40
i would be surprised if he was 40 and had that pfp
the art style i feel is more modern
how old are you?
exhil arent you older than me
how old are all of you holy fuk
no one replying to me im sad
if you say you're under 20 I swear
23
12 year old shota UwU
what the fuck

I'm pressing X to doubt
grown ass man
mods hang him by his feet
you are a grown ass man go into the coal mines
mods unwrinkle his nuts
taxes? Is that what mommy and daddy pays every month?
my reaction to people wanting me get ban
I'm 21
This is the LAST thing I expected to see here
i think raw age doesn't matter, most matter is what experiences you go through and what kind of mentality and reason behind them you have
@vernal terrace
this is my personal belief
when you are very young, you think family is the most important because well thats all you have and they provide for you
When you get slightly older, you get more ambituous, see more stuff and get more abstract
You get even older you realize at the end of the day money doesn't really matter and family is what keeps you rooted to life.
my personal belief is whatever that ceiling fan skeleton is
:v
Where's the one of it falling over and hitting a table corner with a loud thud
everyone reacted to my joke message but no one replied to my serious message
Samesies but 22 soon
23
when you get older your perception of time decreases and then you will become a husk faster than you ever anticipated
i think its also because not much events, so stuff pass by faster.
yeah p much
Mods banish him to the garden of Nurgle and entrap him in a maze of Tzeentch
Was not touching that joke message with a 10 foot pole
I've been on discord long enough to see some wack shit that wasn't a joke so i wouldn't have been able to tell lmao
fucker i don't mean that in the context you are implying
aight get a mod in here
I know I know
clean dis shit up
i puked in my mouth a little
one is obviously a joke another one can get me banned on a mod's bad day :v
I know someone who has this in their speed dial vocabulary
a mix between experiencing the same things over and over and everything felt like an eternity when you were younger because you yourself had been around for less time

bro is absolutely cooked
idk i didnt wanna ask cause i dont wanna embarrass myself but, whats a 12 year old?
an 11 year old +1 i think
yuh
hmmm
would you go up to a cool lizard or snake and pet in the wild without knowing if it's dangerous or not, i would
no :v
get bitten is painful
Snake I would admire from distance, lizard yeah
nah
and lizard skin doesn't feel good, snake skin until it becomes leather
This fucking caught me off guard lmao
i- i can show you
You are not beating the allegations today
You are not helping your case at all
i mean, he was setting it up.
sensitive as in they'll immediately react negatively upon contact with your hand or the kind of sensitive where it would physically hurt
they usually do the former
The lore, stories, and experiencrs I have in my head from discord that I wish I could erase is definitely forbidden knowledge
also i was more interested in what you guys would reply to the serious message but nobody other than kngihtak did so :v
No one cares for serious, we care bout the shock value of the message
Which is why u got dogpiled for those joke messages 
Two friends I used to have from Playstation when I was a teenager, one was WEIRDLY obsessed with shock factor and gore videos (I can mention those in passing, yes?) and constantly wanted to show the friend group until everyone told him to stop, the other one was even lower degeneracy and when we found out it was block city
oh yeah i kept that shit to myself
my point, it isn't a big thing until you guys made it big.
It wasn't something i myself was that interested in beyond it being a contextual joke
Yeah the moment you clarified it was a joke I was no longer concerned lmao
The human mind is a very “unstable” source of info, bring in all sorts of topics in and people will assume the wrong thing most of the time
ngl i don't know what kind of friends you have that you need me to clarify it was a joke :v
Cuz our minds be that different
mine is riddled with thc
the human mind makes you remember and spread misinformation
Tone is hard to see in text specially if we don’t know u like that
you guys with stealth zealot
i revealed my age in a prior message to that and also added the UwU which i think would be sufficient enough to tell its a joke but maybe im wrong
Oh no dude, you’re trying to make it painfully obvious and IM not getting it
I’m in the wrong here just tryna explain that human mind go crazy
i hope i never get the kind of people you guys interact with
me after killing a bulwark
Its interesting though, people are so thirsty for kills now that when you wind up with a good player its almost a hindrance
adrenaline
Trying to get stealth backstab kills and the psyker is assailing everything before I can get into melee with it and the other zealot is already in the next room
real
I mod a server owned by an online friend, kez (who I play darktide with, he's here too) and it has had quite a history
I think what might paint a good picture is that an ongoing joke is that me and him share a padded cell in an asylum because the server has drove both of us to severe insanity
idk kind of makes me relieved i don't really believe in interner friends
Hi gamers its me
is it the big public community kind of server or one where it's a bunch of friends of friends and those friends don't get along with the other friends kind of server
sup jelly
ITS YA BOY SILLY FAIL OF JAIL HAIR, TODAY WE ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT DARKTIDE NOW BEFORE THAT LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT OPENVPN
Also its funny having the temptation to stand in gas so I can get progress on my purification aura penance
i forgot openvpn is the actual good one.
i mean
is not
its not
comparable to nordvpn
but point is i should have typed nordbpn
It has 6000ish members and a regular group of active people that slowly changes over time
Active group is about 2-3x the size of active group of class channels here
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now back to the video
nordvpn has/had dubious practices
that sounds fun to deal with
Why do I care about China stealing my information when America steals my information all the time
like covering up a breach a while ago
alright guysss i have got this new build for you today, now of course its performance varies depending on your skill so don't go ranting off on me in the comments
same
openvpn is more of a protocol
IT DOESN'T MATTER! JUST GET OPEN VPN 85% DISCOUNT ON A 3 YEAR PLAN!!
are we vpnbros then?
like forticlient
Someone made an iceberg of the server a few years ago
It became severely outdated only a few months after it was made
no because im sure both of us searched "best vpn reddit"
DORIS ILY
that feline is easier to feed than your averagle toddle lmao
what iceberg mean
like social groups n the server?
not sure, i knew them from the proton mail... it's often used by journalists
wouldn't secure email service be something like thunderbird
requires public private key
Because trained cats know manners
Can't train maddened bebes
IT'S FROM THE OPENVPN WEBSITE! JOIN NOW TODAY!
HTB use it
(it's from Internet Historian)
i think forticlient is more enterprise
Kind of boowomp that the auric missions I've already completed don't get translated into current penances
250 from scratch 💀
OPEN VPN JOIN NOW!!!
6 months later even auric storm survivor isn't cool anymore
mainly people doing the leave thing
So THATS where the dickus came from
thats also another reason im not trting that hard

Oops might have to delete that before the mods come knocking
i used to be part of a roblox game community for longer than i'd like to admit. you would either be shocked to see how bad it could get or be completely unphased by it.
something about dinosaur survival games just breed the worst kinds of people, on top of being a roblox community.
Too bad they don't know I HAVE OPENVPN!!
also cole you havent told me what iceberg mean
Roblox communities have a strange power to em where broskis are just unhinged so I don’t blame u being a lil shameful bout being in one
Hell im still in one so I feel ur pain
An iceberg is like a memeish visual of knowledge, preference, or whatever of a topic of community, with the top bring very commonly liked or known things, and slowly making its way down to the bottom for things almost no one knows or is ultra niche
I'm at work so I get interrupted lol
oooo i thought it was like socia lgroups
darcy would be at bottom tier for this server?
with how often they're brought up probably not
don't need to get embarrased imo
roblox getting the mincraft treatment of "we are now old enough that we won't exactly laugh at someone else for playing a quote on quote kids game"
i didn't know about darcy until this week
Middle ground prolly
whats like bottom tier for this server
yeah i'd say middle/upper middle
Huh just unlucky then I had to deal with them 1st hand 
give me the tea
They assumed like 2 times I was a zel main cuz of my nickname
im sure you were blessed by her pressence
ultimate vet wisdom
oh my
ya, “blessed” is the word for it

I even tried to inform them that I vet main and it went one ear out the other
wat bottom tier for this server do tell
I honestly couldn't pinpoint anything
I only really reside here
And go to other channels for class advice
i like psyker chat more, feels more dynamic
i couldn't say because i don't stray far from this channel, i'd imagine it's stuff very few know and are prohibited from speaking about it
i see
zealot chat is Helldivers chat now
lit this joint up with a fucking meltagun and stomped on 30 bitchass orks, this shit aint nothing to me man
i find it funny too, but sometime the off track / random "stan quotes are funny" gets annoying
usually i tune out after that happens
slurping down that nurgle nasty juice like its some lemonade fuck you bitch
legion of the dammned popped up the way I was smoking these fucking blunts
little bro thought he was hot shit till this power claw turned him into diced onions, this shit aint nothing to me man
4/20 was yesterday dude
i lost track of time
Look at this dingus. In jail, where he belongs:
i was there
they must have warp amnesia they forgot im HIM
ive seen this happen every round ive played of that map so far
its petty funny
And it was Baldur's Gate chat before that
i will turn zealot chat into shadow of the erdtree chat
I have limited experience of their opinions but they were either baiting or had bad takes
So even if so I wouldn't bite that
like exhil mentioned
seemed like a mix of both
also fuck
i didn't realize me typing in bad grammar was similar to darcy
oh my
its way more similar than i thought it was
online bullying is so cool
BRO THINK HE'S ME
exhil i can't face you anymore
im also very very, demotivated to type lazily now.
and psyker chat 2 too!
Yes she did, she stopped posting a while ago though. https://www.youtube.com/@allycxt771/videos
twist: Tanner was Darcy all along
im just glad the mods didn't think i was darcy...
remember when some penances were moved to private because they were toxic
a figment of your imagination
this is right up there :)
a nightmare
ezpz
hmm today i will actively split from the team and contribute nothing
no this is "clearing the way"
so when thye move forward no gunner
you know damn well it could have just been "kill things outside of coherency"
it would have happened anyway
rather than "kill specifically ranged things, specifically with backstabs, outside coherency"
I present to you
Barrel : the penance
|| thats what i do on stealth judgement zealot but don't tell anyone ||
i feel you probably could ask if its intended / for a fix on the forums
oh wait
it says right there
explosive barrels
Most of them just get ragdolled by it
The damage is so goddamn low
I think the best utility barrels have are in fire barrels
Yes, fire is okay
The explosion itself only deals 1 damage
the problme is you arent playing on sedition
And the fire deals good damage as well
They take a smaller amount of damage from it than we do, I believe
yeah
But they do take damage
doesi t apply to fart gas as well?
but fart gas seems to enpower them with superman eyes
Tox gas makes the enemies go faster, but doesnt deal damage
Uh, unsure. Don't use healthbar mod
Oo it buffs them too? Was kinda hoping it did that
Fun
Its very noticeable when the mutant suddenly goes to gear 2 and sprints twice as fast
haven't notice that yet thankfully
Im in the process of unlearning muscle memory and actually paying attention to whats happening around me whenever i hear a mutant now
how come
can't you run just to wall
I just mindlessly run through the game while swinging my melee weapon most of the time, but them speeding up fucks my timing
dodge on react ezpz
ass?
few months later it will not be cool anymore
yeah probably

thats why you use the quit tech
just like the karnak hardmode trinket
hardmode still cool ok
lol
Behold, shit i get away with
Vro
You can dodge dogs sliding
And it's hilarious to slide when one pounces from behind
You don't even give it the dignity of a look in the eye
It's beneath you
So whatll be better to use melee wise, any of the heavy swords, a normal chainsword or the Crusher club
I'm looking for something different that isn't the funny knife or the usual crap I use
heck you can even dodge slide muties
You can even dodge slide crushers!
No jk. They will kill you
liar
So you're saying to add damage against Carapace lmao
Aoe overhead of death
Honestly idk
I don't think its base damage fot carapace makes it worth the hassle
But it's been a while since I played
Sucks
You chastise pewpew
More useful to take a ranged weapon capable to deal with it. And chastise
On Hsword probs not.
imo Chainsword or Crusher but I'm heavily biased to better weapons.
A long time ago Tyr advocated for it tho
i can't wait to grind for cknife so i can try uncanny + flamer
I'd rather have elite
Back to Chaxe and Heavy Eviscerator to just instakill everything with a heavy
Crusher has very solid Carapace damage if you lay down buffs properly, some of the combos chunk Cara.
exhil uncanny and chastise stack right
wait
was that what i wanted to ask
ya
does uncanny stack with chastise
Uncanny is rending and Fury of the Faithful is an ADM change, so yes they would stack. However some weapons get nerfed against certain armor types when downgrading.
oh no
Like wat weapons
You can run like anything with Crusher. @royal vortex has a guide on it in pins.
Chain weapons, certain ranged weapons that I can't quite remember. Anything with a higher Flak ADM than an Unarmored one.
Crit build Crusher is fine due to the high finesse.
Also crit CDR is just kinda nutty when you have access to unlimited cleave on-demand.
wat about flamer gud sir
I've never got behind the movement stack Zealot, always been doing Martyrdom and Blaze
Flamer has normal ADMs so no it won't be nerfed. However Bleed does get nerfed when ulting against Flak.
free buffs for what i was doing anyways
Movement stacking Zealot just doesn't make sense to me some, why benefit stuff while moving and such when you can just do more DPS with Blaze and Martyr constantly
Depends on the loadout. Judgement offers ranged and melee damage and attack speed for free. It also buffs your dodges. Martyr requires lower health and only buffs the melee damage and attack speed parts, and for full output sacrifices curio blessings. Blazing Piety is pretty passive too but only certain weapons get the benefits.
you dont need to do much to maintain judgement either
It's easy to keep maxed just by dodging
But don't the stacks get burnt after smacking any 1 enemy?
Toughness on command is nice, just be sure to be careful of anything that can interrupt the chant
I’ve had mine snubnosed too many times cuz I didn’t watch for barrels among other things 
Inexorable gaming is my de facto zealot choice for augmented zealotry
Melee AND ranged damage AND attack speed? Thank you, I'll take it
yea its all i really play
I usually end up going for it but lately I've been running BP and Martyr a lot.
i just find marty really snoozey
martyrdom is a bad thing to use and you should feel bad for using it
Anyone knows the base crit chance for chainswords?
yeah I said it call the cops I'll tell them too
wait wouldnt it be higher cara compared to flak, since you can only down cara right?
The armor downgrade sets flak to unarmored and cara to flak.
i see, so basically if higher tier ADM is higher than lower tier then its bad.
And since rarely cara adm higher than flak, you mentioned flak and unarmoured
dat correkt
my experience with the eruptor
we will catch you later
chime plays*
I like how my dude broke the fourth wall
and was like man this SUCKS
gonna tantrum for a sec then get body horrored buy cunters again
Hello Zelchat
Can anyone give me some advice on breaking into the Heavy Swords?
I've not really used them much before, but would like to take a swing at it
the 7 is usually the place to start, and with rampage and strike
or power on kill/hit
i think they serve same purpose as dclaw right
Can take everything except for crushers
dat what i remember
:v
So should rock a gun that can deal with crushers
the alternate attack is a heavy hitter plus almost always jostles your target
use it as the lead-in to a combo you have in your muscle memory that'll stagger as they're hit, til dead
push is fine push block a lil weak push attack not really gonna blow your skirt up
weakspot hits do six brazilian more damage than body hits, to the tune of like quadruple damage or something as silly
so find one that cleaves in a way you're comfortable with, and weakspot damage / crit % or damage / headtaker / rampage / slaughterer
it's almost a direct copy and paste port of kerillian's 2h sword from vermintide 2
they didn't even change the special attack animation
Whats the difference between the Mks?
You mention VII as the starting point, is that just the best one?
9 is goat 9 is goat 9 is goat

yeah, 9 was the one I was mistaken on
oh
the variants differ by their swing angle, and what % of the attacks are stabs versus slashes
the push attack should be different for all 3
and the stabbiest of the 3 variants can feel like a duellie
Guessing IX has more horizontals?
all of its heavies plus the push attack are cleave slashes
one variant is half and half on slash/poke
9 has mostly horizontal lights, a horizontal heavy combo and an overhead heavy-special combo
and one is most all stabbity
personally I like the one that mixes stabs and slashes but I only use heavy swords on a lark
Which one is best for taking out armour? Or are they all not very good for that?
stabber and getrting some rending help probably
right
Mk9 can also abuse the fact sprinting resets attack chains to repeat the first heavy
the damage to carapace is more about your style of attack
using the alt to stun/stagger and then getting in wher you can fit in
which, you won't be doing very often even if you're looking like a textbook example
How are they against Monstrosities?
with power on hit and something like shred for crit on hit they can ramp up pretty respectably
you'd do yourself a big service grabbing the 9 of any tier and going to the psyk for some stabbity throat
to see just how big of a difference body/weak/crit/critweak damgae numbers are
Yeah will do a little testing but appreciate the tips
I swear I remember recording something with like an order of magnitude difference in damage output
ten times
I wanna rock the sword on this lad, tryna go full Crusader
They should make more monk style clothing
Hah yeah.
I was using this badboy before it got buffed and I loved it back then too, even if it was just special spam
Crusher is definitely a 40k monk weapon
I would wish for old crusher back if current crusher wasn't so nice
current crusher is the pinnacle of weaponry for the zealot from a certain playstyle
They just need to make a couple variants lol
What variants could you see them cooking? Crusher doesn't seem like a variant-able weapon imo
A lot of weapons end up being different movesets
Well, as mentioned above, I liked how it worked before they changed it.
It was mostly special spam but had greater CC than even now
The area of effect of the special attack was bigger, but overall the weapon did less damage
The fastest form of Cara damage is SA bc
That's fair
not everyone's cup of tea, but still very powerful
Dumdum moveset crusher with light spam for sweeps and heavy spam for overheads 
personally I'm here for every minute of it
Kinda like pickaxe from VT2 iirc
and honestly the next two swings after heavy 1 are single target lights
same two lights after push attack
wish their were a diffrent varent of the crusher that had a downward power slam
Crusher combos are the best part
I was like last week old when I realized there's a third quick single target smash to use after you hit em twice and they're on the floor with 8 stacks
and that it's a 3 hit combo not 2
yeah the
light>heavy>light>heavy
Or Heavy>light>heavy>light
depending on if you want vert combo or horiz combo is nice
yep it's pretty vicious I just can't help but feel like it's a lil not boring, but a word close to that
think only thing crusher suffer with is killing largeer targets
great wave clear though
it's just light ligh tligh ltihbhtyl ithgli ad nauseum until you actually have to fire a neuron and overhead
Yeah, struggles on monstrosities
yep, boss damage suffers
If I had to guess they would do a combo-able damage AoE (so like activation does a bigger damage AoE on the 2nd/3rd attack, rewarding smth like L1 SA H3) along with an awkward base crowd damage combo. Have the first attack for the damage AoE setup be a sweep, so you get a sweep > damage AoE rotation. Then the rest of the weapon is focused on ST, with different combos being optimal for different armor types.
a sweep H1 would be much more intuitive
the crusher already had its detonation shitcanned even in the most ideal situation
having to either do NNOTHING with it with a light swing
That one was fun because it has inbuilt crunch from ogryn tree
I would enjoy this a lot if it crumpled people instead of the current power hit effect
Full charge gives badonkers damage
so you only activate to H1
Depends on what they aim for, if the weapon is ST leaning for base attacks the H1 should be a strikedown or uppercut imo.
Hit a crusher on the head and he's got a massive dent in his head
DI... UNT... URT
I think that the weapon is at its best with sweeping lights and overhead heavies
don't sleep on the push attack
still waiting for like the other power weapons
it's hands down the strongest swing the weapon has
Because usually you fight weak enemies in crowds and stronger ones need to be hit easily and with damage
it's quick to pull off, and the next two lights are single target skibbitypaps
The VT2 exec sword is a natural evolution of that design
That could be pretty neat, sounds like a higher-skill weapon which I'm all for
the ask, though, is that push attacks are expensive on a crusher
which is why you dump penetration and max defense
I feel like a bozo, I have the red and gold crusader fit, but I'm still tempted to get the black, red and bronze crusader fit.
like, imagine they come out with a black hooded helm but I only have the red fit. That would be a dripsaster
but I'm paying how much for a recolour of shit I already have? 
been helping people fin the hidden skulls in the turrent
Ideally crab works on it so that we get a based weapon and not a Crusher moveset flip 
ok they took me to difficulty 5 as soon as we unlocked it
and like
there is so much fucking armor
my dodge SLIDE key has been unbound since before the 1st of the year
sorry
wtf is hd2 balance
Ahh yeah that's when you get the big one enemies
we went from facing 3 chargers in one mission on 4
to getting ran over by 9
at once
HD2 is fairly well balanced, just need to learn AP and AV stuff and unlock weapons for it.
the trick is, don't move away until they've got a lot of speed
yea but i'm unlocking stuff so slow
you can not-dive but walk sideways and avoid them
lol
I do like how I figured out for the medium sized bugs, if I shoot their knees they die quicker, sometimes in oneshot
except then i did it to a larger bug and it lost half it's legs and still tried to get me
only one?
idk, i feel i should do more damage to a charger if I unload my shotgun into it's ass cause i crashed it into a wall
my grenade doesn't do well, even if the charger doesn't move off of it
might switch to the frag instead of the one i have currently,
If you want to get a support weapon for bugs, RR, EAT, and Quasar are solid. For bots AMR, Railgun, Laser Cannon. Each works for the other, and also the Arc Thrower, MGs, and AC work for both. Flamer, Stalwart, and GL are more niche and small enemy focused.
i have the laser cannon
never thought to use it for bugs
might be good
also same with those walkers
lascannon is fantastic on bugs
or the big fucking turrets
It's okish but bugs favor having 5 AP and 3 AP rather than bots favoring 4 AP.
and LC has 4
it'll reach across the map and pop every flyer nest and spore tower
from where you start
and you can strafe enemies and jostle or kill them outright from fuckoff down the road
i feel like there is just enemies that you cannot fuck with if you have the starting loadout
I mean that isn't unique to Las Cannon that's just a durable damage thing.
the armor pen was beefed up a bit too
well sure but it used to have zero help there
Las cannon can probably break shrieker nests faster than quaso
yee on bugs they throw Chargers at you quickly and you either have to skid trick them or use rockets. Shooting their butt requires an explosive weapon to do full rather than 10% and you don't unlock many early on.
I mean the beam weapon with high uptime vs. the Quasar that has a 10 second per shot rate vs. a group of 3+ spawners is going to be one-sided.
Chargers butts are such fake weakspots it's annoying
mech stomp absolutely ruins their day
its an unarmored spot, not a weak spot
it's easirer to pop the leg armor and kill em shooting there
Well there aren't technically weakspots by that definition.
for any enemies
that booty hella thicc
puh LEEZE
there are though, like devastator heads
I guarantee you bug holes have weak spots SMART GUY
the charger's butt is more akin to just an unarmored spot on a devastator that is not the head
Any explosive weapon shreds them and activates the bleed mechanic on them
those are unarmored
(and not one of their connection points)
yes but is also a weakspot
ie weakspot damage bonuses
No
aint it?
is this one of those all roads lead to rome word differences
Shreds them still needs like 5 AC shots 
And if you aim too high it gets deflected
Compared to like the 8 liberator mags otherwise
what do the script say cause my feeling has always been that weakpoints exist
autocannon is less than stellar against chargesrs
The pain
I've been testing this stuff thoroughly for weeks there aren't weakspots there never were.
and i do get that some parts being unarmored and others not and the rest is a pain to make it hard to read through as a player
but i just dont go through the script
AC can't pop armor since the rounds are deflected
thats pretty surprising
and even when you find a new hole to shoot htem in the damage is lackluster
It's like a new player trap everyone just tries to shoot the butt with rifle
There's AP and AV for damage mods, durable damage, and explosive damage. Only other multiplier is damage falloff.
cause like, lib pen can take four shots to kill a regular brobot, but its one tap to the head
That means you're hitting 5 AV or higher.
so i always read that as a weakspot bonus, just as one example anyway
lib concussive can pop weaker armor on bugs
It has 2 AP.
so the only thing that matters is armor damage value vs. enemy armor type
AC has 4
questionmark
two to four rounds in the same spot in quick succesion will blow the armor off hive guards and the like
then you're on easy street vs other rifles
I think heads are just durable damage
appreciate all the fact checking you do
no
alls I knows is SHOOTEM FACE FER HUMAN RACE
For devastators?
I have to eat dinner and I'm genuinely worried about leaving this misinfo pool unchecked
don't worry
just know that whatever you do it will only ever get worse
Devs don't take durable damage except for possibly backpacks.
I'll drop knowledge from my GUT
like
eruptor is currently king of bugs
shoot the ground below enemies
but not at too flat an angle it'll bounce
Durable damage is a 2nd damage value on weapons and it is only applied for specific stuff, mainly vehicle vents, crates, and bug holes/fabs.
you can sneak rounds under crushers and hive guards and one tap em
maybe not crushers but it doesn't take many
I just know when I take my MG against them I shoot them in the peepee for red cross and they die v fast

aight I'm gonna be back in 30 I stg if I see bad stuff I'm pinging each error.
supply pack is silently prolly the best strategem you can bring in terms of personal agency increase
MG supply scorcher grenadepistol stuns
cuz it means you have like, THIRTY grenades and stims
if you so choose
not that many but you get the idea
Extra grenades are crazy good
when I realizedf that after stealing someone's backpack cuz they were stupid enough to stand in my totally accidental 500kg weapons test
I found the nearest large nest and killed it only using grenades
cant wait til exhil stops stuffing his stupid face so i can pick his brain on this subject cause it is fraught and frustrating to figure out
and I mean, only grenades
bugs, boom, holes, boom, grab another pack, boom
like what, I don't have a ton of hours in but I've found my rythm and get the gist of most stuff
except the nerd math behind the scenes
i can only make inferrences from feel
hell yea
oh like,
instincts WIN, math is for STINKERS
the arc thrower arcing to teammates
has a ton more to do with how close the teammate is to directly behind the thing you just shot
instead of off at an angle
Bought the game thinking I'd main Psyker, but nope zealot all the way
and much less to do with how far away they are
if the squaddie is at a right angle from your fire vector, he's most likely safe
if he's 1* from center and across the map, you just killed him
if you have at least one bullet in your mag when you reload
that round stays chambered in the gun
and you have your mag + 1 when reloaded
the quasar cannon has two bars on the back and side that will show you visually how charged the gun is
and how close to recharged it is
and if you use the eruptor, you can fire the quasar, swap to eruptor, fire one round, and when you swap back the quasar will be charged
We talking bout HD2?
hotdicks2
Proceed
the anti materiel rifle kills silently if you oneshot things
oh
next one this huge is gonna cost you super samples
if you open your map, and start to sprint, your map will auto close
If everything is dead, it's perfect stealth
dont map and sprint, youll fall into a hole or landmine yourself
if you dial in a beacon for something then get into the mech with it in your hand, it will be primed in your hand when you get out
so you can call something and have it ready then toss it without calling it in the moment
shoot the chin guns on the ATATs, they're destructable
*the more fire, you fire, at bots, the less accurate they are *
if you have to move from cover spot to cover spot and you're getting tagged in the open
just magdump at them
and their plink rate will drop through the floor
bots are also totally deaf until the shooting starts
laughs in heavy devastator
I snuck caddycorner in a forested map (heavily) less than idk
half the distance you can throw a grenade
5-10m
and did so with them facing and chatting
their see to engage range is almost comedy when they're unalerted
just stick to cover, move through cover, and don't be that fool of a took knocking the helmet into the well and you'll sneak right under their guns
cannon turrets don't fire til fired upon
the eruptor, exploding crossbow, quasar, autocannon, and explosive munitions will pop bug holes and fabs
What is the rotation of Cadia Mk XIIIg Assault Chainsword?
eagle strafe will engage at the fire vector you throw it in a line away, cluster bombs napalm and strikes are at a 90* from you and the beacon where it touches down
that angle's not determined til it plunks
at least not hugely
the eagle will give you some benefit of the doubt on most attacks and even out the line you threw it at vs however off you threw it
lol ikr
if you drop a beacon or toss a nade or whatever near a squaddie and there's time
if he actually hits the fuckin dirt and stays there
damage received is vastly vastly decreased
just hit the dirt with your thumb on the dive key to insta hop
I survived a hellbomb inside the fence perimeter last night
the boom was so huge I yelped
