its kinda overkill at that point
#zealot-class
ember yew
deep stream
Also worth it to get rid of the extra long path to Until Death?
rocky marsh
Also worth it to get rid of the extra long path to Until Death?
my stealth loner mommentum i don't take 2nd life because 4 point
deep stream
my stealth loner mommentum i don't take 2nd life because 4 point
You mean not take Holy Revenant right?
clear knot
i mean yeah youll have dumb fucks in here screaming like, why cant i use my chorus every 6 seconds like i could yesteerday HUH is it SO BOKEN IT NEEDED NERFED TO HELL. and itll be that onthe steam community/FS forums/DT discord for like six months
ripe quest
I've always thought that putting a 1 proc per swing CD on it would be nice since it still meshes with certain weapons best, but also it wouldn't fix the main issues with crit CDR. imo CDR should be something that is balanced for instead of being a global thing, so like an addon for specifically Fury or Chorus instead of something all of them can use. This applies to other classes as well.
ember yew
Im guilty of spammin chorus every 10 seconds when i did chorus achievement with knife
rocky marsh
You mean not take Holy Revenant right?
1 sec i show u what i mean
ember yew
went fast tho
coarse birch
Yeah i think cdr across the board was handled wrong
clear knot
i mean that isnt what im tlakign about.
rocky marsh
i mean yeah youll have dumb fucks in here screaming like, why cant i use my chor...
my only "bad take" currently is that i feel old DD was better
better as in more powerful
clear knot
im talkign about people who defend it as a legitimate playstyle and not like, a meme build
zinc talon
anything with a knife in the loadout mix is already suspect for memery
fleet zealot
I think it is legitimate for some weapons
ember yew
I've always thought that putting a 1 proc per swing CD on it would be nice since...
Per swing or something like 0.5 sec CD, so you dont get an entire Chastice reset in one sweep
fleet zealot
Knife, chsword
rocky marsh
You mean not take Holy Revenant right?
zinc talon
fossil crag
anything with a knife in the loadout mix is already suspect for memery
knife is good men
why people hating on knife
fleet zealot
But fucking when i see people run crit chaxe
clear knot
bcuz its legit not even like a free win build or smth with how much you can spam it. cuz if your team sucks it sucks. its just idk, memey. and thats fine but ppl try to act like its a properly viable build for w/e and its jsut not
fleet zealot
I wanna fucking throw rocks through the windows at fatshark hq (chocolate rocks of course)
fleet zealot
Crit rashads
rocky marsh
anything with a knife in the loadout mix is already suspect for memery
i want to legit run cknife now because seems like around the same ttk as caxe,
run uncanny means i can flamer crushers
And dependent on crit mean more uptime on ability
ripe quest
So many problems would be fixed if Fatshark just like, wasn't scared of nerfs. I imagine it completely annoys playtesters.
fleet zealot
Crit heavy swords
clear knot
sry for ranting but like, i have grown to hate crit biulds in this game because of zealot players
dusky portal
damn that monkey goin thru it
north sedge
Cue the clip of me Mr. Bean-ing my way through a clutch on vet
ember yew
a free win is rashad/
facts
fleet zealot
So many problems would be fixed if Fatshark just like, wasn't scared of nerfs. I...
Cause everytime they nerf or fix something OP a fucking vocal minority pops up and doesn’t quit
coarse birch
sry for ranting but like, i have grown to hate crit biulds in this game because ...
Your fine i think we all get it
ember yew
probably my favorite wep in terms of generalist
coarse birch
Ive been sick of hsword/assail/rashaad etc forever
ember yew
second one is chainaxe and then knife
rocky marsh
sry for ranting but like, i have grown to hate crit biulds in this game because ...
but for average plaer like myself critspam crusher wepaon is the only way i could do anything decent with it :p
ember yew
i dont use crusher much these days
zinc talon
you're missing out
clear knot
im a hamer main at heart
rocky marsh
im a hamer main at heart
i feel hammer too slow, like im playing ogryn
clear knot
i still want a better one but this is my best so far
rocky marsh
2 mil later
zinc talon
turns out this's faster than everyone swingin over each other competing for kills in total offense mode
clear knot
its been way more than 2 mill
zinc talon
suddenly, shit aint dangerous
left iron
2 mil? Rookie numbers
rocky marsh
its been way more than 2 mill
bro wat
ember yew
^this playstyle is why my scores are so high and my kills/damage so low
Just kill them before they kill your friends 
Time for shootygryn
coarse birch
Yeah hammer is pain
zinc talon
an enemy on its ass is less dangerous than an enemy killed more quickly
rocky marsh
let me flex real quick
zinc talon
that gets a cheap shot off on you or the lidlwuns
coarse birch
Esp if you want true perfection
north sedge
Hammer is the hardest weapon to roll in the game cause of the insane blessing pool
rocky marsh
clear knot
i feel sad for u
these are my weps
rocky marsh
Hammer is the hardest weapon to roll in the game cause of the insane blessing po...
oh i didn't know that
its harder than god roll caxe?
zinc talon
yep I've taken to rolling a bad blessing at blue on a weapon I'm gonna orange
north sedge
God yes
zinc talon
to eliminate that blessing from the potential pool
upbeat widget
hammer has 10000 worthless blessings and 2 good ones
ember yew
go and kill things
zinc talon
and also to put a t4 on it so that factors in the orange blessing tier
clear knot
its so bad
zinc talon
then I just change the bad blessing to whatever I want at orange
and I'v egot two good blessings for just one refine slot
clear knot
if you ever see laz ask him how long hes been hunting for his perfect hammer
nocturne zealot
god blast you <@528266598033653783>
I think you might have pinged the wrong one
rocky marsh
go and kill things
grinding for cknife now because i feel cknife builds are more versatile
north sedge
if you ever see laz ask him how long hes been hunting for his perfect hammer
1 million years
left iron
rocky marsh
oh sorri
clear knot
laz has easily spent over 100mill on hammers easily im imagining
coarse birch
Yeah
rocky marsh
laz has easily spent over 100mill on hammers easily im imagining
if he put that much time into a korean mmo im sure he could have like 20K in real money by now
coarse birch
Although laz ONLY plays hammer
ember yew
fair enough
frosty herald
cant wait to get thrust 4 randomly on my hammer
clear knot
1/4th the battle
pearl valve
if he put that much time into a korean mmo im sure he could have like 20K in rea...
If I could get a Korean mmo with dt gameplay I prob would
rocky marsh
If I could get a Korean mmo with dt gameplay I prob would
i wouldn't i would hate the grind / item dependency
ember yew
cant wait to get thrust 4 randomly on my hammer
i should've just made 5 zealots at level 30 and hunt for blessings at melk, back in the day, too late for that now
frosty herald
if i get it from a emperors gift im going to piss off some people
and it will be delightful
rocky marsh
i should've just made 5 zealots at level 30 and hunt for blessings at melk, back...
you can use the 8 character mod i thought
ember yew
weaboo weapon for perverts
rocky marsh
thammer is a voidstrike staff
ember yew
the legendary achlus eight
rocky marsh
achyls takes one thousand years to swing
zinc talon
weaboo weapon for perverts
say that when you're holding it tough guy lol
just tryn get away with no mobility at all
rocky marsh
by the time its done the next horus heresy started
i picked up achyls once
and i
i
never picking it up again
ember yew
just tryn get away with no mobility at all
zinc talon
fleet zealot
Imagine if Big E named his son Horus Hershey instead
fleet zealot
And instead of falling to chaos he fell into a really big vat of chocolate
zinc talon
it takes a lot of money to keep these little guys housed, fed, and locked away so nobody can ever see their sinful nature
zinc talon
your donations help, please, donate to Stabitat for Humanity today
rocky marsh
punishment for running meta vet build should be, being forced to use achyls for ur next 3 game as your main weapon
zinc talon
the timer's permanently at 8 seconds, only what you do puts time back on the clock
shooting it gets you more time
ember yew
that barrage is terrifying
zinc talon
well yeah what you do is, shoot a smol next to the crusher
who isn't a ranged enemy, so nothing happens and you wasted your time
fleet zealot
https://tenor.com/view/vietnamflashback-gif-7780922
misty nova
Brought the peashooter to Tertium
ember yew
https://tenor.com/view/dog-remember-bad-memories-gif-13097556
that's me tomorrow after finishing loner / backstab achievements
ornate bone
On a scale of 1-10 how cool do you all think my sword looks?
rocky marsh
look like normal ds4
ornate bone
look like normal ds4
Well yeah but how cool is it?
I think the trinket looks a bit out of place, but that's the blade I used on mine and I quite like it
misty nova
0, doesn't say Emperor protects
ornate bone
0, doesn't say Emperor protects
But it has faith on it. Only so much space on the blade after all
ornate bone
But damn does it look used to hell and back
That's what killing 40,000+ heretics does to a blade
next hinge
That’s what hitting a crusher 40k times looks like
north sedge
austere lagoon
both 🧱 ?
austere lagoon
please elaborate
paper pine
Just solo parried a demon host then got jumped by 2 chaos spawns
ripe quest
please elaborate
Uncanny T3 or 4 is BiS, Precog is the best single target damage blessing available with Riposte and Executor behind it, +Elites is fine, +Unarmored isn't. Only change I'd make is swapping +Unarmored to +Flak or Unyielding based on preference and build then saving the 2nd mod for future proofing.
The right one is locked to being a bleed knife but if you swap the perks it's really solid by bleed knife standards.
austere lagoon
i'll just use the right one when i need a mobility stick, thanks
ornate bone
Mk6
jagged aspen
i had the most gloriously easy auric maelstrom earlier
easier than most regular damnation missions i do
only person who got downed was a psyker who kaboomed himself
what a win for randoms
ember yew
only person who got downed was a psyker who kaboomed himself
went off with all the glory
golden seal
Is Inexorable Judgement still good after the massive nerf or is it looking like another keystone talent is better?
vocal pulsar
Is Inexorable Judgement still good after the massive nerf or is it looking like ...
not a massive nerf
still good
5% damage lost
not massive
golden seal
25% duration too ; _ ;
golden seal
True
echo fossil
can one of you fine gentlemen tell me what the best knife and roll combination is?
jagged aspen
massive nerf is selecting vet as your class
austere lagoon
ghad dayum this one is going into the brick museum
golden seal
I would cough never play Vet over Zealot. Shouty for life!
jagged aspen
ghad dayum this one is going into the brick museum
yikes
still dock
How did you guys using the weapon customization mod fix the ' (hook): trying to hook function or method that doesn't exist: [PackageSynchronizationManager.release_unload_delayed_packages]''
at startup
ornate bone
can one of you fine gentlemen tell me what the best knife and roll combination i...
Lacerate plus flesh tearer of course. Also use the catachan devil claw
As for perks you'll want stamina and damage to unarmored
austere lagoon
at startup
Warhammer 40,000 DARKTIDE\mods\weapon_customization\scripts\mods\weapon_customization\patches\
ornate bone
How cool is my revolver now?
paper pine
god i love parry
tawny tangle
can one of you fine gentlemen tell me what the best knife and roll combination i...
Flesh tearer + mercy killer with +damage perks of your choice. I personally recommend maniac and unyielding or MAAAYBe carapace if that's your thing. Can also swap flesh tearer for uncanny if you prefer direct damage but your hoard clear will be worse
austere lagoon
can this one be saved? spent 3 mil dockets thats the last i got
echo fossil
Flesh tearer + mercy killer with +damage perks of your choice. I personally reco...
Cool thanks. Mk3 or 6?
fleet zealot
Flesh tearer + mercy killer with +damage perks of your choice. I personally reco...
no lol
ripe quest
can one of you fine gentlemen tell me what the best knife and roll combination i...
Uncanny + Precog/Riposte/Executor. Mobility is the dump, above 50% gets you the dodge breakpoint. Perks are Flak/Maniac/Unyielding/Elites. Cara is fine on the VI. We have a weapon table in pins. Avoid bleed generally, Flesh Tearer + Uncanny is the best combo if you really want it.
drowsy steppe
ghad dayum this one is going into the brick museum
First time someone actually said flesh tearer and lacerates a bricked knife. Based
frosty herald
can this one be saved? spent 3 mil dockets thats the last i got
swap haymaker to executor or precognition and elite damage to carapace or smt
drowsy steppe
can this one be saved? spent 3 mil dockets thats the last i got
It's saveable yea
fleet zealot
can one of you fine gentlemen tell me what the best knife and roll combination i...
knife variant doesn't matter too much it's just preference, mk3 has strong single target with the stab heavies, mk6 is better at general use with slashes for heavy
For what exhillious said
echo fossil
Uncanny/Executor is good? I have a 549 uncanny/executor flak/maniac mk iii on my zealot
but i really didn't like it much
executor resetting so much is annoying
fleet zealot
executor is good but it's a bit awkward to maintain
tawny tangle
Cool thanks. Mk3 or 6?
Mk3 is more single target and has mk6 is almost all cleaving attacks. Both only have I think 3 cleave though
frosty herald
executor on mk3 requires a very single target playstyle and good aiming'
drowsy steppe
It's good but executor itself is eh
fleet zealot
precog and riposte are way easier to use than executor since knife has amazing dodges
frosty herald
executor shines on mk6 knife
ripe quest
Executor is fine but it's less damage than Precog and has a skill requirement for upkeep. Has more value on the VI where you can get multiple stacks per swing and you get the cleave.
golden seal
Has anyone gotten a bug where they can no longer select a build and the game switches to it?
Every time I select one of my builds my stuff does not change over
I can switch to any of the other 4 though, restarting doesn't fix it.
ripe quest
If you delete the loadout and make a new one does that new one work?
I recall some people having issues with them and it pops up between updates, resetting loadouts seemed to fix it.
sterile stone
executor shines on mk6 knife
frosty herald
<:mhmmmSure:884219953010602006>
what can i say swiping heavies
golden seal
Yes I had to completely delete the build to switch to it
Awful solution but a solution I guess. Thanks.
sterile stone
I can't see how people play zealot
golden seal
Can't see us cuz were invisible 🙂
sterile stone
IT feels like I'm swinging a cinderblock when I heavy
Meanwhile using a heavy with everything else feels fluid
ripe quest
I can't see how people play zealot
I big damage with stick that does boom and I get boomage with fire and explosions
tawny tangle
I can't see how people play zealot
What weapon lol?
sterile stone
Tigris
echo fossil
is heavy sword a thing btw? never seen someone use it
sterile stone
Like I feel like I'm more rewarded spamming f and light attacking with the chainsword
echo fossil
i basically only use the evisc on the zealot
tawny tangle
is heavy sword a thing btw? never seen someone use it
Heavy sword is very good against everything that isn't an ogryn/mauler
ripe quest
is heavy sword a thing btw? never seen someone use it
It's great, Deathblow gives it phenomenal mixed horde clear if you can hit breakpoints.
golden seal
Also the MB4 attack on the heavy sword has armor pen iirc
echo fossil
evisc MKXV is really fun but the special is awkward
sterile stone
I wanna make this known right
echo fossil
alright i'm gonna try to make a sword
sterile stone
The damage or cleave ain't the issue
It's the recovery after a swing
It feels sluggish
tawny tangle
Build attack speed, throw in a shove attack every once and awhile. It's not too bad
echo fossil
With which weapon? Chainsword?
ripe quest
Yee you gotta block cancel to get rid of that on the Evis.
maiden path
I feel a little out of place
sterile stone
The tigris evis
The hammer feels fine
As well as the chainsword
But the evis just ain't for me
echo fossil
ah, you mean after heavy attack?
sterile stone
Yeah
echo fossil
yeah it's sluggish for sure
sterile stone
Like after I swing into a horde
echo fossil
plasma is the best ranged weapon in the game yeah
sterile stone
It feels like zealots benefit the most from light spam
maiden path
being able to cleave through 30 fucking gunners is crazy
sterile stone
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9a4fa304-0b88-4cf8-827a-d0435327a8c3/zealot-meta-no-stealth
maiden path
i wouldnt say its the best
sterile stone
I dunno how y'all rate it
sterile stone
But this is the build I'm using atm
maiden path
with its extremely niche want to just fucking one shot elites
echo fossil
you can't kill like 10-15 gunners in a few seconds with any other gun
maiden path
power sword and plasma carry me so hard
echo fossil
yeah same
maiden path
you can't kill like 10-15 gunners in a few seconds with any other gun
good aim
with an xII
echo fossil
huh i wouldnt know
maiden path
i wouildn either.........
echo fossil
being able to shoot through bulwak shields is obviously goated as well
ripe quest
and it's insane for that
It's on the lower end of horde clear.
echo fossil
it staggers them
maiden path
being able to oneshot bulwarks is goated doe
echo fossil
i wouldn't waste ammo on hordes though typically
maiden path
feels great to drop a bulwark from like 300 feet away
I WISH IT DIDNT FUCKING EXPLODE ONCE IT REACHED 100% THOUGH
i can understand the overheating mechanic
echo fossil
it only explodes if you charge it
maiden path
but why just not make it useable untill it reaches 0% if it does reach 100%
*unusable
sterile stone
Because it does that in lore aswell
maiden path
i am tired of edging my plasma gun
sterile stone
It's a high risk weapon
echo fossil
you really shouldn't ever explode yourself. it's almost impossible to do it since you shouldn't be charging that much
frosty herald
the secret here is to not charge it when its close to 100%
maiden path
i was scammed
sterile stone
the secret here is to not charge it when its close to 100%
^
echo fossil
it's not like psyker, it's much harder to do accidentally
maiden path
the secret here is to not charge it when its close to 100%
if i see more then 4 gunners lined up im gonna chrage it
ripe quest
you can't kill like 10-15 gunners in a few seconds with any other gun
Boltgun, Agri and Lawby Shotgun w/ Manstopper setups, Zarona Revolver, certain Brauto and IAG variants.
maiden path
i gots to
sterile stone
Non charged shots when near or at 100 will auto unload head for a quick shot
frosty herald
if you charge and its at 100% it will always exploe when shot
maiden path
plasma fucks hard though
echo fossil
Boltgun, Agri and Lawby Shotgun w/ Manstopper setups, Zarona Revolver, certain B...
i don't think you can kill 10-15 gunners with most of those guns with the same ease
frosty herald
normal shots wont explode until you reach 100 and shoot again
tawny tangle
charging the plasma
sterile stone
i don't think you can kill 10-15 gunners with most of those guns with the same e...
Brace guns existing
maiden path
charging the plasma<:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
bro dont want 200% cleave
fair igloo
M1 lets you shoot if ur at exactly 100??
ripe quest
i don't think you can kill 10-15 gunners with most of those guns with the same e...
Depending on density, maybe not. However it's not unique to Plasma.
echo fossil
i don't run marksman's focus so i hate braced guns, they seem unusable to me compared to columnus
tawny tangle
not necessary
maiden path
fuck ur meta im charging my plasma gun
frosty herald
fuck ur meta im charging my plasma gun
just be wary
ripe quest
Also Boltgun def can but it's more ammo wasteful.
fair igloo
wait im just confused
maiden path
i am wary i do not care
fair igloo
I thought it only ever blew up if you used the M2
frosty herald
you can charge it to 99% and when it shoots it doesnt explode
echo fossil
there are times you want to charge it, if it causes you to hit a break point
but mostly no
tawny tangle
also havent used plasma in a bit but i dont think you can explode using only uncharged shots
fair igloo
I thought the M1 autovented whenever you were at the threshhold where it would blow you up
frosty herald
I thought it only ever blew up if you used the M2
this is true
maiden path
god gave me the power to cleave through 3 trillion gunners and im gonna use it
sterile stone
If your plasma is at 100% and you try to do a uncharged shot, it won't shoot, it will instead vent the gun.
ripe quest
Plasma gives you a 52.5% charged shot iirc
fair igloo
i'm so confused???
ripe quest
on uncharged
echo fossil
I thought the M1 autovented whenever you were at the threshhold where it would b...
it does
you cannot blow yourself up with normal shot
maiden path
i will confirm this
frosty herald
only charged shots will explode the plasma rifle
echo fossil
if you click again it will cool off enough to fire two more shots
then you click again, two more shots
fair igloo
you cannot blow yourself up with normal shot
ya that's why i was so confused cuz i swear i saw ppl saying they were blowing up when M1ing
sterile stone
ya that's why i was so confused cuz i swear i saw ppl saying they were blowing u...
People are not intelligent
maiden path
medal is 'extracting electron updates'
frosty herald
your best bet is to go into the psykarium and check out the breakpoints for when the rifle explodes
echo fossil
yeah it's actually the a decent way to keep your crit % maxed out at high heat
maiden path
yea uncharged doesnt explode if your at 100%
spare talon
you cannot blow yourself up with normal shot
I actually didn't know that
But I haven't used plasma TOO much so
median steeple
Do people really not know
spare talon
Yeah I had no idea
sterile stone
Not many people are vet mains
echo fossil
there's just no benefit to charging at high heat imo anyway since if you're charging you're doing it to reach a breakpoint to one shot something, otherwise it's more DPS efficient to spam M1
sterile stone
I as a vet main must educate these uncultured zealots
median steeple
Uncharged spamming is hilarious
fair igloo
vet is my least played and that was like one of the first things i learned about plas cuz i asked
i feel like if the game plan is just to spam M1 it's a good idea to test whether or not how effectively u can spam it
sterile stone
Uncharged spamming is hilarious
I've seen people just blast away uncharged shots on ogs
echo fossil
what's wrong with that?
sterile stone
Nothing
sterile stone
It's just a wild strat
echo fossil
as opposed to meleeing?
fair igloo
works on revolver too
ripe quest
yeah it's actually the a decent way to keep your crit % maxed out at high heat
It's so funny to me that, for free, you can spam m1 and get maxed out +crit damage and +crit chance from Gets Hot.
sterile stone
A vet not using kraks is odd
median steeple
If you want a stupid thing to do use the mark keystone and use plasma
maiden path
echo fossil
frags are goated, what do you mean
sterile stone
So meleeing a ogryn is uncommon
frosty herald
charged shots on plasma are wayy stronger than just spamming m1
sterile stone
frags are goated, what do you mean
fair igloo
charged shots on plasma are wayy stronger than just spamming m1
Blaze away 💔 💔
ripe quest
charged shots on plasma are wayy stronger than just spamming m1
Yeah but it's not stronger in terms of ammo to damage.
echo fossil
charged shots on plasma are wayy stronger than just spamming m1
DPS-wise? are you sure?
yeah it does eat ammo faster
median steeple
It's situational in a lot of respects
ripe quest
Per-shot, absolutely. Hits great breakpoints.
echo fossil
less damage/ammo
frosty herald
not dps wise but sheer raw damage
echo fossil
right so you do charged shot on the handful of enemies that it matters for
anything it lets you one shot, if something takes more than one charged shot you shouldnt be charging
ripe quest
Also getting the extra 47.5 cleave is cool
fair igloo
The one thing I dislike about plasma is just how like easy it is to use
maiden path
fair igloo
but i guess it at least has a semi ammo weakness so it's not like assail
echo fossil
plasma magazine is way too big also
frosty herald
The one thing I dislike about plasma is just how like easy it is to use
i have a horrible time using it
echo fossil
it basically shoots forever
frosty herald
the charge for an m1 shot throws me off completely
maiden path
https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/28J0Kln4XY7Ypk/d1337raF47I...
ignore me fucking up the shield
fair igloo
Before the survivalist nerf u could literally kill an entire horde of specials/elites in like 15 seconds and end up with as much ammo as u used to kill them with loll
echo fossil
the fact that a plasma gun can get you through 3-4 encounters before reloading is wild
median steeple
I rarely run out of ammo with plasma even with the surv nerf
fair igloo
it's like a star wars gun except its shots aren't reactable so they can't be deflected by some laser sword
fair igloo
I rarely run out of ammo with plasma even with the surv nerf
i honestly haven't played vet in agesss so i don't even know how bad the surv nerf is outside of ammo regen on my other classes when we have a surv vet which i don't really care about
median steeple
It's not that bad
median steeple
IDK what the doomsaying was all about
fair igloo
I know a Metal Gear in-game cosplayer who has 5 vets and they're all versions of snake
median steeple
Nah man shout out to the people who use 5% movement speed aura
fair igloo
and one of them is a stealth knife vet with smokes
echo fossil
i've been playing survival vet with plasma gun/power sword and even on auric maelstrom no ammo/melee enemies condition it makes no difference
did a couple last night and ended with 80% ammo left
maiden path
did a couple last night and ended with 80% ammo left
maybe if the only thing u use is the m1
echo fossil
i'm exaggerating saying "no difference," but for a gun as ammo efficient as PG it's big
yeah i only use M1
maiden path
ill die before i not charge m1
echo fossil
charging uses what like 50% more ammo per damage or something?
sterile stone
ill die before i not charge m1
median steeple
Beb we just talked about how charging isn't ammo efficient for damage
frosty herald
maiden path
maiden path
https://tenor.com/view/kung-pow-kung-fu-trained-wrong-wimp-lo-gif-27152837
i am right
fuck ur meta
i will charge my plasma
median steeple
echo fossil
there's absolutely a use case for charging
it's just stupid if you're using it exclusively
since you're like, massively overkilling some enemies
median steeple
You can oneshot muties with charge shots iirc
sterile stone
40k lore master bribkey
maiden path
silence hadron
median steeple
You can oneshot gunners with headshots?
maiden path
if they are an ogryn I charge it
if they are anything else i m1
yea
with tag atleast
median steeple
Yeah you don't need to charge
median steeple
I know you can I was bringing up
maiden path
i love tag
tawny tangle
i think if you go all in for it you can 1 shot crushers on a non crit with a charged shot
maiden path
only useful vet
echo fossil
tbh if you're not specced to one shot an ogryn with charged, it doesnt really matter if you M1 or M2
maiden path
passiv
median steeple
Well it's either tag keystone or weapon spec
frosty herald
beb are you suffering from premature discharging when using the plasma
median steeple
And I've seen the shit weapon spec does
maiden path
beb are you suffering from premature discharging when using the plasma<:KEKW_ogr...
no
echo fossil
very true. the 5% damage vet aura is soooo bad
maiden path
premeature ed
echo fossil
it's like 1% damage in practice
sterile stone
No keystone gaming
median steeple
That's the problem with all of the auras
sterile stone
median steeple
Like one will always be better since the other ones are dog shit
echo fossil
vet damage aura should easily be 10% damage at least
maiden path
'erm stand still for 10 seconds and ill give a 5% damage increase!
echo fossil
even that might not make much difference
because people spec their builds to reach breakpoints
sterile stone
I mean
median steeple
Focus is gaming for las gun builds
sterile stone
10% of 1540 dmg
echo fossil
they dont do it based on auras that may or may not happen
sterile stone
Is alot of dmg
median steeple
echo fossil
10% more than 1540 is just another 10% of overkill damage on a dreg gunner
i.e. a 0% increase
echo fossil
i run improv 100% of the time but i dont like having to
median steeple
Should've been an aura
echo fossil
i just feel like that guy if i'm not
maiden path
what do i add to my plasma :thinking monkey:
median steeple
Fucking killed me love (I still use it)
sterile stone
i run improv 100% of the time but i dont like having to
I've ran several games
maiden path
ignore the 640 plasteel
quaint verge
It was jarring
I'm one of those 
sterile stone
Everyone runs these pants with the squad leader top
quaint verge
sterile stone
The green bionic leg?
median steeple
Everyone runs these pants with the squad leader top
Where TF are those pants from I forgot
frosty herald
The black one
maiden path
Everyone runs these pants with the squad leader top
wtf are those pants
erm they better be free
frosty herald
Penance track pants
maiden path
track pants
median steeple
Need
sterile stone
From cash shop
echo fossil
informal poll here, do any of you guys have a 550 with ostensibly "pefect" rolls?
sterile stone
This was the entire set
median steeple
Oh God not that ass chest piece
sterile stone
Almost every i've seen
quaint verge
maiden path
almost there
frosty herald
Beb
sterile stone
frosty herald
You could get it done in 1 game
echo fossil
imagine someone going 5% DMG aura and not taking improv
frosty herald
sterile stone
I need the mod to show the entire tree
quaint verge
Meh
sterile stone
But I am now leaning heavily into shout spam
It's just too good
It keeps god awful teammates alive
quaint verge
Talent tree for my own, so
frosty herald
If you see any fire or gas its free toughness for the penance
sterile stone
Dang ole scrimbo bimbler
maiden path
You could get it done in 1 game
erm i play the game as intended......
sterile stone
So many of vet's penances are cheesable
maiden path
whatchu want boy!!
sterile stone
I can't wait to rock the full set man
echo fossil
no dum dum
median steeple
I'm tempted to do a stealth weapon spec build
echo fossil
dumdum/ranged sprint immunity is The Way imo
median steeple
I can't wait to rock the full set man
Im still wondering what that other version of the chest is
median steeple
The one that doesn't have a reef on the pauldron
sterile stone
With funky color camo patterns
echo fossil
yeah that's actually a cool set
sterile stone
Well
We gotta remember
All these armor sets have a base color pallette
Which is like dark olive drab
Or in some cases
Like a dark tan
frosty herald
I wonder if well get recolors of current penance armor
echo fossil
I can't wait to rock the full set man
i love that khaki collared jacket
bought that one as well
sterile stone
Tanker jacket was the best purchase ngl
frosty herald
Like imagine a black version of the voice of command penance but it requires 15000 toughness rehen
sterile stone
Was like 1k aquilas for pants and a jacket
echo fossil
they didn't get me on the elysian set for my vet but i had to get it for my ogryn, ogryn with the new set is too funny
fits with base color shield too
sterile stone
Like imagine a black version of the voice of command penance but it requires 150...
Let me show you something
sterile stone
There's still
SOOOOO many unreleased chest pieces
As well as legs and head pieces
echo fossil
those don't really look like shop stuff
maiden path
oh yea this is whati was talking about
echo fossil
imo they kinda shot themselves in the foot not putting that stuff in sooner assuming its not new
maiden path
i want that
frosty herald
That was the very first vet shop set to come out
maiden path
That was the very first vet shop set to come out
exactly
neon field
all i want in life is that lifers sentry outfit
maiden path
that shit aint never coming OUT
neon field
if i had that i would die a happy man
maiden path
when will mod that just lets me wear whatever client side coming out!!
sterile stone
Have the plated gloves
frosty herald
when will mod that just lets me wear whatever client side coming out!!
Damn thats crazy
jagged aspen
i had the most gloriously easy auric maelstrom earlier
happened again
maiden path
dont dan das crazy me pal
median steeple
I did most of the ass penance in hunting grounds and waves of mutants/bursters
echo fossil
hunting grounds is another good one for the maelstrom survivor
ivory marlin
Good morning zealot chat
shy river
As long as it's no nurgle blessing zap fingers psyker helps a good amount for those
echo fossil
i did 4 easy ones in a row yesterday and then got I-II VEG on carnival with a team that was only 2/4ths of the one i started with
shy river
If someone else thinks ahead
echo fossil
ogryn fell off a railing twice and we wiped 😦
echo fossil
As long as it's no nurgle blessing zap fingers psyker helps a good amount for th...
yeah that's what we did it with
smite just trivializes the melee modifier
you're basically just going around executing crushers
burnt ivy
So what's up with the Crusher melee for Zealot
I've never used it but I've seen it being used a lot
echo fossil
personally i think it's not that good
north sedge
Personally you silly
north sedge
It's very good, there's an in depth guide in pins
echo fossil
i dunno i'm just going off of my experience of how good i've seen people do with various weapons
not seen to many people with crushers outperform other weapons
burnt ivy
Compared to Heavy Eviscerator and Thunder hammer how good we talkin
echo fossil
not saying it's "unusable" either, basically every weapon in the game can be run
neon field
if you can make a knife work well as veteran you can make anything work with the right build
echo fossil
imo vet is actually pretty good with the knife since it autoprocs for mercy killer
north sedge
its a better generalist weapon, than either, only loses out on boss dmg
neon field
imo vet is actually pretty good with the knife since it autoprocs for mercy kill...
wait is that with serrated blade for veteran or does he just auto proc bleed with it?
echo fossil
i'm not sure what you mean. if you hit a guy with it on your tree, you cause him to bleed
neon field
thats what im saying
hushed knoll
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3127724964
Hi Mankar 
ivory marlin
hi stan
ornate bone
Which eviscerator was the one for better wave clear, as opposed to the one for high single target?
ripe quest
Which eviscerator was the one for better wave clear, as opposed to the one for h...
Mk II for crowds, Mk XV for single target.
echo fossil
i like shred personally
rampage to shred and then groaners to unarmored imo
or maniac
ripe quest
Mercy Killer would be interesting if it wasn't in an environment where you can get knife to 1-2 shot stuff anyways and if it could provide some benefit over competition since it only applies after the first hit.
echo fossil
but i run the crit build so w/e
ornate bone
Im new to zealots, when would you advise using the special attack of the xv, for big things?
and hold rmb?
er
lmb
echo fossil
so there's actually a lot to that question
you have to go to the psykhanium and test breakpoints for special+light and special+heavy
if you're trying to minmax
ripe quest
IS this good?
With normal builds you'd just swap +Fodder to +Maniac/Unyielding/Elites (I've heard Unarmored but test BPs yourself). For blessings keep Rampage, swap Savage Sweep on preference, Bloodthirsty and Shred are popular picks.
ornate bone
if you're trying to minmax
Not trying to minmax, just seeking general approach to start.
hushed knoll
Hi Exhillious
echo fossil
so yeah in general you use special attack to kill anything you can one shot with it, plus crushers
if you're running the dash ability you also one shot crushers
but iirc they may have nerfed that in the latest patch
ornate bone
if you're running the dash ability you also one shot crushers
Carrying the good book.
echo fossil
and crits only trigger on the first tick
yeah i do book too
i'm book evisc with shred
hushed knoll
@ripe quest why are you so mean to me
ornate bone
This is the price of the weapon
echo fossil
ah you just recently hit 30?
yeah i mean that'll get you started
you can run that for a while until you find something closer to max
i love the XV personally
ornate bone
ah you just recently hit 30?
On this toon, ya. I main psyker and ogryn mostly.
echo fossil
i actually run rev it up/shred on mine
i'm just a sucker for those utility blessings
ornate bone
So if I have a weapon thats good with both popcorn and steaks, (small guys and big guys) where does that leave my weapon? I think sniping for far off targets...
echo fossil
so imo the XV is good at horde clear and popping single large elites, but it fails at rager packs
i like the columnus for that
ornate bone
My current "highest rated" ranged weapon. I like this for the slug it loads...
ripe quest
and crits only trigger on the first tick
Where did you hear this? crits seem to be working fine.
visual stream
Purely guessing but I think bolter would be at least a good filler, columnus would also be pretty good like the other guy says
echo fossil
Where did you hear this? crits seem to be working fine.
i read the patch notes, but i could be misremembering, i've only been playing vet post patch
visual stream
Shotgun could probably be good too but I can't remember the last time I used one so I can't say
ornate bone
Lol oh man...
visual stream
If you have lots of bases covered by your melee weapon then it leaves a lot of room for whatever you want to lean into, I like bolter because it's a heavy hitter plus I can deal with snipers and bomber, and can make space if I'm in a desparate spot
echo fossil
you really dont need rev it up though, i just like it
sometimes i spend 2 points to get swift certainty and that sprint speed goes crazy though
ripe quest
i read the patch notes, but i could be misremembering, i've only been playing ve...
There's like, no mention of crit in the patch notes outside of Blazing Piety.
Crit works fine, maybe you're thinking of the issue regarding chain weapons and damage ults? Crit is the only thing that works with that interaction though.
echo fossil
Ah I remember now, it was way dumber than that, i was looking at old patch notes when i googled "darktide patch notes"
and it wasn't even the same thing anyway
well in that case, evisc dash is insane since you one shot crushers
but i'm a chorus andy as i say
polar nexus
Stanis!
hushed knoll
sterile stone
Crit works fine, maybe you're thinking of the issue regarding chain weapons and ...
Show ogryn gameplay
visual stream
Would a sad ogryn be an ofrown
hushed knoll
frosty herald
Another useless auric pub
I had to solo a plogryn and at the 3 battery event they just all died
maiden path
im ready........
spare dome
so fucken tired
left iron
spare dome
today ends my 53hr week
i get one day off, and then do it again next week
and then finally our schedule will make some sense
sterile stone
I had to solo a plogryn and at the 3 battery event they just all died
I knew you could be the gamer I know you could be
placid fiber
Holy shit I just got shown what I have to get prepared for, in Division 2... as far as Legendary difficulty goes...
I got my ass handed to me harder than when I was first trying to learn Heresy in Darktide... with a t1 lascerate knife build...
rocky marsh
maybe dumb dumb question to ask here but anyone played DT first , tried VT2 then found VT2 equally / more fun?
frosty herald
I got backstabbed by a ratling lost 1/3rd of my health and quit on the spot
drifting wolf
what makes you enjoy vt2 more, more of a challenge?
rocky marsh
im not saying i did, im asking if anyone did
Like after they play DT maybe they got better at tide or sumting
bnecause when i tried VT2 i didnt like it ver ymuch
still dock
it's beautiful 🥺
rocky marsh
bigos digos
sterile stone
Like a shiny malachite
Honestly if you told me that ws a legendary tier PS
I'd buy it
ivory marlin
hi argus
drifting wolf
i think darktides combat is more punchy and it feels good to play but vermintide is a better challenge with more fun melee weapons to use
rocky marsh
what makes you enjoy vt2 more, more of a challenge?
is vt2 more of a challenge? Why> genujinely asking bnecausse idk about vt2
ivory marlin
https://tenor.com/view/dumpster-man-throw-out-trash-gif-14761446
:(
visual stream
maybe dumb dumb question to ask here but anyone played DT first , tried VT2 then...
I think VT is more challenging, partly out of design and partly out of the fact that the flank attack noise is as loud as a wind draft indoors compared to DT
It is super fun too though
drifting wolf
is vt2 more of a challenge? Why> genujinely asking bnecausse idk about vt2
yeah the flank attack is harder to detect and tempHP is a lot less forgiving than shields
still dock
Like a shiny malachite
Thanks for the weird compliment C:
rocky marsh
I think VT is more challenging, partly out of design and partly out of the fact ...
what u mean {"by design"
Like you need to learn tech or wat
rocky marsh
Thanks for the weird compliment C:
i feel it fit the roman theme
sterile stone
I have a design idea
Now hear me out
We have a mess hall
And we can choose differen buffs to temporarily get
visual stream
what u mean {"by design"
Like you need to learn tech or wat
Less movement options, much more punishing, it actually matters which direction you dodge unlike DT, also what Knightak said
drifting wolf
different variations of corpse starch
rocky marsh
Less movement options, much more punishing, it actually matters which direction ...
how come matter whic hdirection you ddodge
nimble fiber
visual stream
how come matter whic hdirection you ddodge
Lots of enemies like the big armored chaos soldiers or the big shirtless dudes with axes will still hit you if you dodge in the wrong direction
rocky marsh
Lots of enemies like the big armored chaos soldiers or the big shirtless dudes w...
tha t sound like something ayou get down after liek 10 hours tho
like how last time mutie can only dodge left
spare dome
you basically just have to dodge at some point during an attack in dt, in vt its more precise, generally
fleet zealot
rocky marsh
you basically just have to dodge at some point during an attack in dt, in vt its...
does it matter in practice when like you have 5 enemies infront of u? I assume they attack at different times
spare dome
but honestly its just a different game. you can block pretty much everything in VT2 for melee, overheads included
and pushes are a lot more potent
fleet zealot
^
fleet zealot
does it matter in practice when like you have 5 enemies infront of u? I assume t...
yes. cause in DT if you spam block after your guard is broken, you can still block
spare dome
does it matter in practice when like you have 5 enemies infront of u? I assume t...
not really, you just dodge again at that point or youre already somewhere else. or the targets are dead
elfin steppe
I just kicked a guy in HD2. The dude joined diff 9 game while below level 30, used all my artillery rounds, died several times, and didn't finish any objectives.
fleet zealot
or you just shove and dodge back
rocky marsh
beacause DT is alwyas on the edge of "this is getting repetitigve" and "i want to try this new build" for me lol
Because i feel at the base DT quite easy (and i don't really want t olearn clutching because kiting in thsi game is not fun for me)
visual stream
tha t sound like something ayou get down after liek 10 hours tho
like how last t...
It's the simple fact that it's something else to look out for and less forgiving, so it's more challenging even if you know how to avoid it because positioning is tighter
rocky marsh
It's the simple fact that it's something else to look out for and less forgiving...
i see, liek the hallways and corridors smaller?
rocky marsh
not really, you just dodge again at that point or youre already somewhere else. ...
can you dodge side then dodge back?
are there maximum dodges like in DT
rocky marsh
but honestly its just a different game. you can block pretty much everything in ...
in vt2 i never really get when i should block and when i should attack
spare dome
you learn it, same as dt. its a dance
dodges are generally shittier but recharge faster. weapons have different dodge counts.
and stamina regen is not impacted by dodges
sterile stone
good idea<a:dancyshroom:886411802756390973>
spare dome
so you have two separate resources to use
rocky marsh
the dt melee i feel quite easy tho
dodge after 2 lights, then coinflip if you want to shove
if no more dodge just shove
slow slate
is the penance there is nothing but the abys for zealot bugged i have gotten it but my buddy keeps healing more tyhan 25% of his hp but still doesnt get it
spare dome
the actual melee, like just fighting enemies, is easier in vermintide
rocky marsh
the dt melee i feel quite easy tho
dodge after 2 lights, then coinflip if you wa...
i feel the vt2 one not as easy
spare dome
its everything else that's harder
THP is much less friendly than toughness
if you have a bad talent for THP generation for the weapon you chose it's almost as bad as having none
you HAVE to be fighting to earn THP to stay alive
rocky marsh
so like build matter even more?
spare dome
there is no just hanging back to recover
rocky marsh
quite insane :v
spare dome
nah its a knowledge check
rocky marsh
what you mean, i thought thats build
spare dome
well if you take a shield, and you arent using thp on stagger, you're missing out. but that doesnt mean you cant make it work with thp on cleave
rocky marsh
thp is Temporary Health Points?
spare dome
but at lower difficulties, enemies dont give you stagger thp if they die from the attack
so its a knowledge check, knowing what to pick
rocky marsh
but at lower difficulties, enemies dont give you stagger thp if they die from th...
ah so that part is the knowledge check
spare dome
is very dependent on what you are doing
rocky marsh
which game make u feel cooler? VT2 or DT?
visual stream
if you have a bad talent for THP generation for the weapon you chose it's almost...
mfw someone steals my chaos warrior while I have the kill=thp talent 
spare dome
mfw someone steals my chaos warrior while I have the kill=thp talent <:Sitgryn:1...
fkn right
rocky marsh
i love(d) vt2, put 2k hours into it in a year
goddam are you a student
those are like student gaming hours
rocky marsh
i assume you work a pretty normal job or have flexible working hours
when i was a student the best i did was like 4k in 3-4 years
spare dome
i live in poverty, but by choice, within my means
rocky marsh
no other "casual but action" game for me ;-;
DRG
i don't like
idk why
i just don't "get" it
its not fun
HD2 is (for me) HD1 but worse
spare dome
but ya just being able to headlong sprint at enemy shooter lines feels amazing in dt and you feel unstoppable
vt2 felt more like being an unbreakable rock in a line
rocky marsh
i see
spare dome
its a different kind of power fantasy
spare dome
nah just different. there's definite improvements but it is made with these differences in mind
rocky marsh
but ya just being able to headlong sprint at enemy shooter lines feels amazing i...
that feeling is worth dying for thats why im never getting auric storm
spare dome
like we have toughness because of ranged enemies. thp would not work in this game when there are eight gunners putting holes in you
spare dome
but blocking isnt as impactful so that players still rely on dodges for key attacks
and stamina is now a resource shared between blocking and sprinting
And sprinting is really just 'blocking but ranged'
fleet zealot
i have a feeling the quitting meta for that penance is going to drop winrates so hard
rocky marsh
i have a feeling the quitting meta for that penance is going to drop winrates so...
wouldn't it boost winrates
or you mean drop for other peepo
fleet zealot
cause people are just gonna dc whenever something remotely bad happens
and bots suck ass so teams quickly get collapsecd
rocky marsh
And sprinting is really just 'blocking but ranged'
but but you going get shot from other direction
peepo keep saying you can run at angle, which i know, but its rare that gunners don't spready out and only on one side, or that the hallway is large enough you can run at angle
rocky marsh
bots at least have scavenger
im average only, i can't survive the game with 3 bots
rocky marsh
average in this discord
spare dome
and 95% of this discord also cant win a solo run, so
rocky marsh
which to me means consistently getting 5 yellows on your best build/class but still knowing you are worse just by looking at other peepo's vods
fleet zealot
i can't win a solo run
spare dome
probably higher than that
fleet zealot
i'm fucking blind and stupid
rocky marsh
solo run as in solo with bots or true solo
spare dome
i know i can do it, but putting in the time do actually do it is like, eugh. so officially no i cannot
a solo run is soooooo looooooong
and exhausting
spare dome
well the game is deffo not made with it in mind
fleet zealot
that's why i vanguard for my team, I simply kill everything I perceive so hopefully my team kills the other junk and doesn't die
rocky marsh
i rather learn like some setup/ combo on a fighting game
@spare dome tbh because i feel this game is like 70-80% build
then the rest is dodging on funny sound and shooting the worst bad man
spare dome
i would invert those numbers tbh
rocky marsh
i could never get consistent 5 yellows with a sub par build
rocky marsh
and the dodge + target priority not hard, and also doesn't take long to learn
so i fele what differentiates me from the average pub player is build
fair igloo
i think it's more like 50% skill 50% build unless i'm stupid
and unless ur playing psyker i guess
rocky marsh
psyker my best performing but zealot most engaging for me
I think now the levels are like +90 and +70
frosty herald
vt2 is def more skill based
fair igloo
well vt2 is just harder in general
rocky marsh
like literally voidstrike the only real hard thing to learn is how to setup your positioning and some mentality stuff
once thats down all im pressing is two buttons
fair igloo
I think i'm around like lvl 160 on my zealot and then like 280 on my ogryn and 110 on my psyker
and then veteran who i like never touch
Speaking of VT2 I reallllly love it, I also like the waves dlc update thing :)
I don't really like how 60% of its content is locked behind paywall but
can't complain since they gave the base game away for free
visual stream
Imo VT2 has less threats that can appear at the same time/less varied threats, so it's less to worry about but you need to focus more and those threats are individually more dangerous. In DT it gets more challenging than VT when every threat in the game is competing for the kill steal at the same time because there are more mechanics and numbers to worry about
rocky marsh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09SNk4KU7Mo
@spare dome this is the only video i have of my psyker
I don't think im doing anything mechanically different from the average pubber
fair igloo
Imo VT2 has less threats that can appear at the same time/less varied threats, s...
I don't have the cataclysm dlc for VT2 but this probably makes sense
I wouldn't say DT gets more challenging i would probably just say it's difficult in a different way or aspect
cuz like the darktide player characters are definitely stupid overpowered so the enemies kinda need to be spammed in numbers for them to be any type of threat
frosty herald
cataclysm is cataclysm
fair igloo
Like the threat pox hounds pose vs a gutter runner is alarmingly different
rocky marsh
Imo VT2 has less threats that can appear at the same time/less varied threats, s...
ohhhh, thanks for the explanation
rocky marsh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09SNk4KU7Mo
<@141003700901642240> this is the on...
plos be kind, this was when i was +3
;-;
fair igloo
Hounds have wayy more audio cues, can be shoved from 4 miles away and are extremely slow in their pounce, even if they pounce you they deal miniscule damage and can be easily knocked off by like 1 point of damage
Gutter runners are more subtle and their pounce is way faster and much deadlier when it comes to immediate damage
Like the damage a gutter runner will do to a player if they get shot off immediately is probably as much damage a pox hound would do in a few seconds with a horde to support it
rocky marsh
|| i don't want psyker chat to know how much i noob i was at +3||
rocky marsh
Hounds have wayy more audio cues, can be shoved from 4 miles away and are extrem...
dammm
fair igloo
And if that gutter runner is on u for a few seconds?? say goodbye to like 60%+ of ur hp 💔
despite both being tide games i think both differ greatly just at their foundation
even just the presence of dodgesliding in darktide makes combat extremely different but i might just be stupid
rocky marsh
ah so is like lik what emprahs said
rocky marsh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09SNk4KU7Mo
<@141003700901642240> this is the on...
watching such an old video is weird because my movement is so janky and weird
left iron
Also gutter runners sometimes do this
fair igloo
Also gutter runners sometimes do this
LOL wtf???
left iron
Spawns enough of them to pin the team instantly
fair igloo
Is that cata??
left iron
Yes
fair igloo
I've only played legend i don't think i'd be ready for cata if 4 gutter runner spawns are normal XD
left iron
VT2 is harder, mainly because you have less ways to mitigate damage
rocky marsh
less ways mean, you get damaged more or like you need to know how to mitigate damage / be more on point without relying on build
ornate bone
As in you can't sprint away from your problems
left iron
You are always slower than the enemies, so you cant get away from them
drifting wolf
you in fact cannot sprint at all
rocky marsh
i never kite so xD
ornate bone
The THP mechanic is also kind of an inverse toughness that you can't stack on top of your health
rocky marsh
one thin i don't like is that only one person can be the character
ornate bone
If you have full health, you can't get THP
ornate bone
In the meantime DT toughness exists as a separate bar
rocky marsh
If you have full health, you can't get THP
ohhhh
drifting wolf
warhammer fantasy as a whole wouldn't be ready for 4 saltzpyres
ornate bone
Yeah, the character thing in Darktide is actually pretty neat
rocky marsh
i googled best vt2 class and it says elf girl so i picked elf girl
fair igloo
Oh also friendly fire exists
ripe heron
Vermintide melee animations are a lot faster.
ornate bone
Sometimes I get stuck playing Sienna and I just don't want to play her
worldly lagoon
I don't know which game is harder
ornate bone
In DT I can play psyker at any point without worrying
worldly lagoon
But DT is better
ripe heron
Poxwalkers will take a few seconds just to swing at you.
worldly lagoon
since no elf
no elf = better game
fair igloo
i've ilterally only ever played necromancer sienna I love it lolll
and like 2 matches of mercenary kruber and then i got bored of him
ornate bone
Vermintide also has a noticeable ping delay for dodging and blocking
Sometimes you can be in a block state and the server hasn't recognized it yet, so you eat shit
left iron
WHC Saltz and FK Kruber are my jam 
drifting wolf
i googled best vt2 class and it says elf girl so i picked elf girl
i'm not sure if i'd say there's a definitive "best" class as each character has different careers that excel at different things. that being said, it's witch hunter captain
rocky marsh
Vermintide also has a noticeable ping delay for dodging and blocking
hmmmm
ornate bone
It's one of the reasons I don't play it as much
fair igloo
oh also the audio cues for things like melee enemy attacks behind you are alot more subtle so u won't be able to get away with blasting music while playing like u can in DT
ornate bone
It's fine when I play with people from my region, but it really fucking sucks to play with anyone in the US for me
fair igloo
or that might just be cuz i only play sienna and it blends together with the high overheat/soulstealer staff charging noises
rocky marsh
i tot sienna has the bar
fair igloo
Sienna has the bar but it hurts her to quell
ornate bone
I can eat Darktide's occasional shitty hitreg because at least the dodge and block are extremely reliable
I'll be able to play with US people just fine, if with some janky melee animations
fair igloo
Honestly when I tried VT2 I never realized just how much i would miss dodgesliding until it was gone
solar gorge
oh also the audio cues for things like melee enemy attacks behind you are alot m...
that's how i play cata
maiden path
@frosty herald IM ALIVE FOO
solar gorge
with music blasting
frosty herald
Im playing helldivers
fair igloo
that's how i play cata
I tried doing that but I just can't hear it cuz i'm not good enough and then my face hits the concrete
drifting wolf
what faction you fighting with what weapons and what armor weight class
maiden path
Im playing helldivers
wow.........
fair igloo
i can only do it in darktide cuz it's like obvious enough for a baby
ember yew
Honestly when I tried VT2 I never realized just how much i would miss dodgeslidi...
dont forget there's no sprint
fair igloo
OH THAT TOO
rocky marsh
Vermintide also has a noticeable ping delay for dodging and blocking
i also can't shake the feeling htat meeling stuff in vt2 feels like bashing stuff in l4d2
nimble fiber
left iron
fair igloo
also it might just be me but I feel like the melee in VT2 is just less satisfying for some reason
like ik it's good but i feel like it has less impact or something for some reason
fair igloo
I'm never going to be able to escape that game
rocky marsh
also it might just be me but I feel like the melee in VT2 is just less satisfyin...
so its not just me :v
fair igloo
tbf spy's audio cues are also blaringly obvious
solar gorge
you won't hear a decent spy
rocky marsh
what other casual games you guys play
astral karma
just rolled this from a white, whats worth switching out?
drifting wolf
what other casual games you guys play
what defines a casual game
solar gorge
like sure, the average pub shitter who decloaks behind his target sure
fair igloo
You won't hear a decent spy because they make sure to either do things w/ their audio cues out of hearing range or when the cues DO play it's when they've already done something like stabbed a teammate
but that's not because spy's audio cues aren't obvious that's because the players are doing things so that u know
they just don't play
fair igloo
Play as in the audio cues
rocky marsh
what defines a casual game
not competitive
(and not hard, but i know peepo will reply hard is subjective. For reference i don't feel this game is hard in-game)
drifting wolf
not competitive
(and not hard, but i know peepo will reply hard is subjective. F...
borderlands
fair igloo
Good spies will either mask the audio over other audio like during a frontline fight or they'll decloak out of range so the sound effect just doesn't play on their target's end
i knowww
fair igloo
5.6k here o/
rocky marsh
borderlands
which one?
rocky marsh
after 4.5k hours
i have 4k hours on tf2 and all of those are spent on source mods
solar gorge
rocky marsh
24/7 zf
idk so much fun stuff
left iron
just rolled this from a white, whats worth switching out?
Vicious slice into rampage, unyielding into flak/maniacs, up to you, if you're keen on keeping this one.