zealot-class

[fleet zealot]

for chsword, the finesse stat more represents it's ridic attacks peed

it does not have exceptional crit/weakspot modifiers that some other finesse weapons have

it is a scale

[radiant nacelle]

Is there a table somewhere?

[sturdy owl]

The term "finesse weapon" generally refers to weapons that have an unusual leaning towards crits and weakspot hits for overall effectiveness.

Knife is a prime example of this

[opal tide]

Dueling swords too

[radiant nacelle]

Ah that makes sense

[sturdy owl]

It does shit damage on non crit/weakspot hits

[fleet zealot]

usually, but finesse also governs attack speed

[sturdy owl]

Well we're not talking about the stat but yes that's true

But only on the stat bar

[opal tide]

Is there a difference between the finesse stat of 60 and one of 80?

[fleet zealot]

Cadia Mk IV Assault Chainsword Critical and Weakspot Power: [0.84 - 1.17]

[fleet zealot]

yes we are

[opal tide]

Attack Speed wise

[fleet zealot]

finesse is attack speed

as well as crit-weakspot modifier

[sturdy owl]

I'm talking about the term "finesse weapon"

Specifically

[radiant nacelle]

Is this considered low?

[fleet zealot]

yes

for example

Catachan Mk III Combat Blade Critical and Weakspot Power: [2.19 - 3.06] (heavies) Critical and Weakspot Power: [1.5 - 2.5] (lights)

[radiant nacelle]

Huh

[sturdy owl]

Those aren't exactly accurate. Last I checked lights on knife had a 2.7 modifier to weakspots

Although it can vary depending on armor type

[radiant nacelle]

Sure, fatshark numbers can't always be trusted

[sturdy owl]

Chainsword had a 1.7x crit mod

[radiant nacelle]

But it's at least representative

[coarse birch]

The only thing i will say to be careful with is that weapon card values can be wrong

[sturdy owl]

The actual damage stats are reliable for a baseline, but they don't take into account perks, blessings, or your talent tree

[radiant nacelle]

That too

[coarse birch]

Sometimes

For example obscurus light one damage value is wrong

[sturdy owl]

classic fatshark

[coarse birch]

They also list max stat as if it was at 100%

Not 80

[radiant nacelle]

lol

[coarse birch]

Last i checked

[sturdy owl]

Another reason I hate fatshark

[radiant nacelle]

True Values mod fixes that right?

[coarse birch]

Ye

[sturdy owl]

The crit modifiers are different for armor types

[coarse birch]

Well actually not sure

Havent used that one

Ik one does

[sturdy owl]

Yes, that mod fixes that

If that's the one I'm thinking of

[radiant nacelle]

Lmao that's a v good chainsword roll, I'm jealous

[sturdy owl]

Doesn't quite hit 51 mobility unfortunately

[radiant nacelle]

Yeah

[sturdy owl]

But as you can see

[radiant nacelle]

5 dodge essential

[sturdy owl]

None of the crit modifiers are 1.09

Not even close

[radiant nacelle]

I mean they seem a whole lot better than 1.09

So which is accurate?

I guess I could test in the meat grinder

[sturdy owl]

It means don't trust that "critical and weakspot power" number and use the damage values to figure out the actual modifier

[vast basin]

Yeah use the actual damage tables

[sturdy owl]

Maniac damage has 1.65 crit mod with that chainsword

[coarse birch]

The only other thing i will say to remember about stat cards is the base damage(which can be wrong) only show it for the first attacks in a chain

[sturdy owl]

You can change the attacks it shows

[radiant nacelle]

Then doesn't mk4 chsword have solid crit values?

[coarse birch]

Yeah but you cant get base damage

Just adms

Is all i was saying

[sturdy owl]

The base damage is always visible

It's that number that doesn't actually show what your real damage is but everyone confuses it with

[coarse birch]

Where are you getting the base damage

[sturdy owl]

That one

There, that'

that's the base damage

[simple grail]

new patch good?

[coarse birch]

Yeah thats for the first heavy and light

Different heavies and lights can have different damage profiles

Therefore different base damage

From what is shown

[vivid panther]

I like it but the gas guys are hell lol

[fleet zealot]

i think the gas bombs could have a bit smaller radius

[simple grail]

is it like the gas guys in vermintide?

[vivid panther]

Yeah, if Ur in a building Ur just dead XD

[vivid panther]

Worse

[coarse birch]

Granted,this only matters if you are looking for adms or finesse values or something

[simple grail]

well map was usuelly more open in vermintide

[sturdy owl]

So it's not necessarily that way. Only if the damage of that attack has a 100% mod exactly to a certain armor type.

[vivid panther]

Yep, but I guess toughness makes up for that in a way?

[royal vortex]

my favorite part of the shit inspect screen is that it doesnt show push attacm

[sturdy owl]

The different attacks don't have different base damage, just different modifiers

[vivid panther]

I like that there's lil puzzles and other things to break and such tho

[royal vortex]

and if u have had a weapon blessed by certain saintly individuals (crusher) the push attack has different finesse/adms

[sturdy owl]

They often use a heavy attack damage profile

But I haven't tested it much

[royal vortex]

nah a lot of the time its actually a light or a really shitty move with higher stagger

[vivid panther]

What ranged weapon would pair well with ironhelm hammers?

[sturdy owl]

Thanks for the consistency fatshork

I know the taxes use the heavy damage profile

[vast basin]

I like the braced autoguns with hammers, really backs up the poor Rager clear

[royal vortex]

knife (at least the mk3) does too iirc

[coarse birch]

Im aware, however in order to figure out if the adm is one you need the base damage and you cannot reliably use the stat card especially for the second+ attack outside of a chain

[royal vortex]

i cant remember what the mk6's damage profile on the push attack is

[vivid panther]

I'll try it out ty

[sturdy owl]

The base damage is always that number, and you can check the damage of each different swing in the card

[coarse birch]

Unless im misunderstanding you

The base damage not always that number on the stat card

Damage profiles can change between swings

[sturdy owl]

The actual damage is the base damage modified by adm's

[coarse birch]

Yes

[sturdy owl]

So it's not the base damage changing, it's the adm's for that swing

[coarse birch]

It can be both

[lusty turtle]

[sturdy owl]

It will always be the number on the card

that's your base damage

But you won't do at least that much damage

[coarse birch]

It is not

[ripe quest]

The stat cards have historically been wrong as shit.

Even base damage.

[south folio]

mfing IAGs

[ripe quest]

For a period of time, might even still be a thing, the IAGs were just all kinds of real garbage.

[sturdy owl]

It should be, assuming fatshark is doing their job right

But I don't doubt they can fuck it up

[coarse birch]

i would not rely on stat cards

[royal vortex]

warren has a new little alleyway with some stuff u can jump on but is NOT a puzzle

[radiant nacelle]

They can and have. Fatshark moment

[sturdy owl]

Can you show me an example of the base damage being incorrect now?

[coarse birch]

ik obscurus light is let me find it rq

[ripe quest]

I'm still installing the update so Yoshi probs has to

[fleet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-pooping-shitting-meme-competitive-gif-4785739159707582004

[lusty turtle]

thats for a different penance

[royal vortex]

what

[lusty turtle]

you heard

[fossil crag]

hey you if you rush with a knife i would like to duo with you

[royal vortex]

can it have a heretical icon in it or smth

[sturdy owl]

As in the numbers on these, not the adm adjusted damage being wrong

[coarse birch]

yeah those

[misty nova]

The evis2 having the 1k damage on weakspot crit against flak on the L1

[frosty herald]

SKELE

[south folio]

L

[frosty herald]

the ascension riser puzzle is brokey

[royal vortex]

the silo cluster puzzle is awesome

[ripe quest]

Totally haven't been installing it for 24 hours now

[vivid panther]

The update? Damn lol

[royal vortex]

the only "uh oh" thing is now you can side dodge off the new ramp to go back up the dropdown

[frosty herald]

i dont have an issue with most puzzles but there are some maps where i cant find anything

[radiant nacelle]

Idk what to look for for the puzzles lol

[lusty turtle]

nope

[ripe quest]

Also the stat cards only show the damage for L1 and H1, not the entire list.

[lusty turtle]

its one of the new penances

"destroy all blue bottles on warren"

[royal vortex]

OH

i saw that one

[sturdy owl]

You can check all the individual swings

[frosty herald]

wouldnt that just be the 2 bars?

[sturdy owl]

By clicking on the icons

[lusty turtle]

its a literally shooting gallery

hense the bottles setup on the barrels n stuff

[ripe quest]

Not for base damage, those give you the ADM modded ones.

And unless you want to trust the ADM list that isn't perfect.

[royal vortex]

lmao me and yoshi were trying to climb up to the balconies above

[lusty turtle]

did u find the actual puzzle?

[sturdy owl]

The base damage should be exactly the same for everything and the only change being the adm

[royal vortex]

yea

[ripe quest]

Between attacks, no.

That's not how they work.

[lusty turtle]

nope

[sturdy owl]

Jesus christ

[ripe quest]

Different attacks have different base damages and their own ADM list, they can also have different weakspot and crit modifiers.

[royal vortex]

ive found every puzzle except consignment yard, relay station, and ascension riser

[frosty herald]

josho how many times did you fall on the vigil station puzzle

[sturdy owl]

You have to be kidding me

[lusty turtle]

base damage changes depending on profile (i.e. strikedowns have higher base damage generally speaking)

[royal vortex]

twice

a dog pushed me off

it was so sad

[sturdy owl]

Not just adm's, but actual base damage?

[coarse birch]

yes

[sturdy owl]

Absolutely what in the fuck

[coarse birch]

entire damage profiles, finesse, etc

[royal vortex]

my team almost wiped while i was doing it

[coarse birch]

can change

[ripe quest]

Even then that's mostly a guideline for vibe, can be a bit weirder.

[coarse birch]

between attacks

[lusty turtle]

if it was all on ADM changes then fucking learning how rending works would be actualyl unhinged

[frosty herald]

the fun fact is that every single team member needs to do it

[sturdy owl]

What do they put in the water there in sweden

[lusty turtle]

oh ye i know, i've been trying to balance them

[ripe quest]

Rending getting worse as you go through the attack chain lmao

[lusty turtle]

its a fuckin mess

old crusher was so fucking sad

[frosty herald]

could you send me the puzzles youve found

i couldnt find the hourglass

[lusty turtle]

which hourglass?

[royal vortex]

refinery delta's puzzle is after you go down the death favela and the dropdown

[ripe quest]

imo they shouldn't be tied to how the damage of the attack works. Just give a better damage table with accurate info (imagine just porting BP Calc over) and then have the icons be for how the weapon swings. Would provide far better info.

[coarse birch]

here is the supposed base damage value of the obscurus light one and 2, adn the ADMs. The adm for unarmored is one, but you do 118 on bodyshot to unarmored, not 89. Therefore, your base damage is 118

not 89

despite what the card says

[royal vortex]

it's at the back of the room and to the right

[lusty turtle]

definetly but thats a huge undertaking of changes so prob not something we'd see any time soon even if they agreed

[sturdy owl]

So the number on the damage stat is wrong

[lusty turtle]

for now i just want to like, normalise weapon behaviours so the attack type decently matches the behaviour you expect

[sturdy owl]

But the number next to rating is mostly correct

[lusty turtle]

and not like, obscuros H1 doing the same dmg as H2 despite the h2 not being a strike down

[royal vortex]

there's a lil bridge to the door that used to go nowhere, u have to click the buttons by the windows until the symbols match and the door button turns blue

[sturdy owl]

It said I'd do 116 with my obscurus, I did 117

[royal vortex]

taxe4 shit

same cleave too

[lusty turtle]

🥹

[coarse birch]

in this case for particularly light one and 2 yes that number is right however i still wouldnt trust it and def not for further attacks

esp if they are a different type

[lusty turtle]

or even if they are the same type

[ripe quest]

mm, would need to be careful with it imo. It'd be easy to get stuff to be too uniform under that when we have weapons with notably different properties. A Dclaw, Evis, and Thammer could all have relentless or vanguard but have drastically different properties in their swing profiles.

[lusty turtle]

uppercut power/finesse boost is pog

but makes things more confusing

[sturdy owl]

I hate the obesefish

[royal vortex]

nobody is happy when they start to look under the hood of a tide game

[coarse birch]

yeah sadly its not as easy as just checking the chard

[lusty turtle]

i less mean a relentless should be the same on all weapons and more like

[coarse birch]

gotta get it yourself

[frosty herald]

the map

[lusty turtle]

a relentless is a cleave hit, a strikedown is a single target, they should feel like that weapon to weapon

[lusty turtle]

hourglass isn't a map 🥹

[frosty herald]

shshshsh

i did find the torrent assasination puzzle

[royal vortex]

the names probably should mean something instead of being entirely irrelevant

[frosty herald]

pret easy but randos wouldnt listen

luckily beb helped me

[royal vortex]

i miss when dclaw sweeps were overbuffed so the 1 was the best

[lusty turtle]

crusher is a great example of this change

[oak ermine]

The names give you a “rough” idea of what the attack does

[lusty turtle]

even if each attack is different, they feel like the name implies

[frosty herald]

what if we give crusher another damage blessing lmao

[sturdy owl]

What if we made recons not awful

[royal vortex]

[frosty herald]

impossible

[sturdy owl]

[vast basin]

We did, for one patch

[frosty herald]

recon is destined to be slightly below average

[sturdy owl]

Probably by accident

[lusty turtle]

i dunno when their next weapon balance pass is but it'll prob get changed eventually

[royal vortex]

i have to update the crusher guide because of the balance changes to momentum and bulwarks

[ripe quest]

Give it power so you get 1.8 multiplied by more shit

[sturdy owl]

They aren't slightly below average

[royal vortex]

i blame skele

[lusty turtle]

[frosty herald]

hopefully theyre cooking with the new weapons and possibly marks

[coarse birch]

simply make SC give even more damage

[sturdy owl]

prob get changed eventually
Infernus stacks changed from 12 to 13, crit strings removed.

Very encouraging

[ripe quest]

It stacks to 16 instead of 8

[frosty herald]

crusher is kinda just a monk staff

[ripe quest]

🙂

[royal vortex]

skullcrusher is so absurd for being a teamwide damage buff

[ripe quest]

Ideally crit strings get heavily nerfed for current balancing.

[lusty turtle]

don't act like that made any huge difference to its dps 😔

accas out here with 0.45 finesse

[ripe quest]

Like at most a crit string of 2.

[royal vortex]

oh also i think knife and crusher might now be the same level of utility for fighting bulwarks

[coarse birch]

i love 160% more team damage

[frosty herald]

bullwarks def have a LOT higher stagger resistance

[sand willow]

What blessings are best these days for a MK2 and MK15 evis?

[frosty herald]

i can shoot one with a bolter in the shield and it wouldnt do anything

[royal vortex]

since crusher light activated doest stagger every bulwark it touches

[frosty herald]

that shield is no joke

[royal vortex]

u take exe stance on vet since it doubles ranged impact and open them in 2 shots

[frosty herald]

ehh

[sturdy owl]

It wasn't the biggest dps change, but they do poor dps on a baseline so they can't afford much of a loss. Reducing their efficacy with crit chance (especially via shocktrooper) considerably was quite a hit too.

[frosty herald]

i like infiltrate and voice of command more

[vast basin]

Mk 2> rampage + SS/shred mk15> rampage + bloodthirsty/shred

Oh wait

[sturdy owl]

Considering you stacked (and still do) crit on them

[vast basin]

Other way around

[coarse birch]

you got that backwards

ye

[sturdy owl]

I'm fine with crit strings being removed provided they get baseline adjustments/more crit chance. Also infernus rework.

[sand willow]

Ah cool, was hoping those were still good for the MK2.

[ripe quest]

yee they slapped some big additive resistances.

[coarse birch]

4 bullet crit strings are deranged

[sturdy owl]

Recons only have 2 across the board now

[sand willow]

Were there changes to the evis crit? I remember crit was pretty low priority last I played.

[indigo basin]

'Infectious Zeal'
Shared Critical Hit Chance: from 33% of 'Blazing Piety' to 66% (5% Effective Crit Chance to 10%). seems like the ui is broken? does it give 10% still? might be because of my mod?

[frosty herald]

ngl why does savage sweep on the mk15 exist with the cap

or do the revs uncap it?

[sturdy owl]

Rev makes it go to 7 from 4 on lights

[sand willow]

What's the MK2's cap again?

[ripe quest]

well like, a 1 crit string vs. a 4 turns 3% into 11%. Gets absolutely absurd with any crit increases, Blazing Piety alone gives you nearly 70% crit chance.

It's just like, we're too strong already and we have shit like this

[ripe quest]

6

[sturdy owl]

Blazing piety alone wouldn't help you on a recon, which is what I'm talking about

[coarse birch]

this with true aim :)

[sturdy owl]

Did they change it? I tested it and it was 7 on groaners

[ripe quest]

I'm talking more with stuff like IAG. I can check what a 2 does, it's still a bit much.

[vast basin]

There just aren't that many viable blessings besides rampage

[ripe quest]

The cleave profile is 6 but if you run out of cleave it'll stick on the last target.

[sturdy owl]

I'll have to try it again whenever mods get fixed

I could be going senile

Could've sworn I hit a 7 on a rev

[sand willow]

Ah, gotcha. I'll probably just be running the MK2 anyways, I kinda prefer the moveset. It's not exactly complicated, but I prefer it over the spam-iness of the 15.

[ripe quest]

You would need to stick the rev on the last one. The cleave is programmed to be a 6 target profile. If you overcleave it'll only damage 6.

[ripe quest]

You're using an outdated mod.

The description mod just puts a bunch of fresh strings on the talents and blessings instead of modding the original string.

[lusty turtle]

recons just need a full rework

[frosty herald]

Yeah

[lusty turtle]

same as paul and a fwe other weapons

[frosty herald]

Make them not bullpup

[lusty turtle]

its nothing new, it'll happen eventually

[indigo basin]

Yeah checked for an update. Nadda yet.

[sturdy owl]

Mhm. Maybe take inspiration from the double anarchies from borderlands

[ripe quest]

chargeup burst rifle with a laser beam variant

[sand willow]

I'd actually really love a good, punchy, burst fire lasgun

[lusty turtle]

my idea is

4 round burst mobile dmr for mk2
standard auto lasrifle for mk 7
LMG that starts inacurate and gains accuracy on holding fire down on the Mk6

would differentiate tehm and fit the idea of them being a paratroop bullpup package

[frosty herald]

Bullpup lmg...

[sterile stone]

Matey

You say this right

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/spiderman-dead-gif-27648081

[coarse birch]

Hyperion ass gun

[sterile stone]

I saw a vet damn near solo a auric with a recon

Mans beamed everything

[lusty turtle]

recon isn't good, don't let people failing upwards convince you otherwise

[sturdy owl]

Yeah they do very poor damage on a baseline and are carried exclusively by the vet talent tree

[lusty turtle]

no matter how you crunch the numbers theres is no situation it performs well against any other gun

[upbeat widget]

Shaking in fear thinking about what you were running that a recon was forced to carry

[lusty turtle]

"carried" is being generous

[ripe quest]

nah nah nah not an LMG that starts inaccurate, and LMG that starts slow but ramps up. Same premise functionally, but one feels like you get robbed and the other feels like you're charging up a sci-fi weapon.

[sturdy owl]

I didn't say carried into being good

Carried into being somewhat acceptable

to be specific

Not the mk2

[lusty turtle]

i considered both but like

imagine if as it gets more accurate and it forms to like a beam, the adm also improves

[lusty turtle]

this is a pipe dream

but its my pipedream

[ripe quest]

Could have a bit of both but playing with inaccuracy on a weapon that shoots 1 projectile per shot is bound to feel unsatisfying.

[frosty herald]

Just add a heavy lasgun then

[lusty turtle]

not if it shoots 20 projectiles per second

[sterile stone]

I won’t lie though, a weapon like a helgun who’s main purpose is to just keep targets suppressed would be nice

[sturdy owl]

Curious to see how the hotshot volleygun will be

[sterile stone]

But das just me

[ripe quest]

I feel like you'd be best just making that a different variant that already has beams involved. Like, Terraria Last Prism it.

[sturdy owl]

Although given that the 7 is the slow variant, wouldn't it be a better fit for a dmr?

[sterile stone]

DMR las gun?

[lusty turtle]

the Mk2 (for a while) had the best ADMs and finesse values

[sterile stone]

Don’t we already have a DMR las gun

[lusty turtle]

where as the Mk7 sits nicely as an exact competetor to the agri IAG

[sterile stone]

With the kant12

[lusty turtle]

yes but not burst fire

[sturdy owl]

I mean if you want to change which one is the slow one it ultimately doesn't matter

But it might be less jarring if the 7 goes to a slower, burstier version compared to the 2

[lusty turtle]

ye but

[sterile stone]

I’m gonna be real

[lusty turtle]

nobody uses the 2

so that won't be jarring

[sterile stone]

A slow firing burst rifle sounds awful

Regardless of dmg

[coral smelt]

i recorded a video on martydom, will let u know when its uploaded

[still quartz]

Anyone know which mod is causing a crash in Psykhanium once I smack something?

[ripe quest]

It would still feel like you're gambling shots, even if rapidly. If you lay it out, the weapon starts inaccurate but then forms a somewhat accurate volley after a bit. That entire ramp-up would just feel like "wow I could play around with this if it were balanced for the inaccuracy but the intended output is the rich chocolatey center". Having two different means of output is going to be annoying in a game like this.

[still quartz]

Nah how about the weapon starts accurately then fans out slowly

[lusty turtle]

okay but you are looking at it form someone who wants a functional gun

im balancing the mk6 for the people who still use it on live and want to waste ammo as fast as they can and pretend its good because of shocktroop

[sturdy owl]

Well I know now I shouldn't expect anything to be done about recons or other garbage weapons in a timely manner if reworks are theoretical

[ripe quest]

Doesn't help that I'm debating changes with someone who is under NDA to not leak said changes

[still quartz]

It's okay everything is balanced around Malice

Just play on Malice

It'll be fine

[sturdy owl]

True

[lusty turtle]

all reworks i discuss will always be theoritcal cause of the NDA ye

[sterile stone]

I forgot malice was even a difficulty

[lusty turtle]

i can't just go "this is happening" even if im discussing something thats happening, which to be clear, this acca stuff is purely theoretical and pipedream stuff

[ripe quest]

Well like, if you do that you deny the alternative (which is cooler) just so popsickle brained players get a more niche weapon that's probs gonna be used for hordes.

[still quartz]

Yeah that's cool and all

But is Shrek coming to Darktide

[sturdy owl]

In that case a gatling laser equivalent would be good in case a hotshot volleygun is not being added in a timely manner

Which would presumably have a similar role

[ripe quest]

Flip it and just say stuff is happening despite the entire playtesting community saying that change won't ever happen.

[obtuse stirrup]

Random chance to replace plogryn

[still quartz]

Perfect

[lusty turtle]

sometimes we have to balance around the existing userbase of a weapon, just how it be. it'd also be dependant on testing feedback, a hold to gain accuracy might feel shit and never see the light of day even if tested

[still quartz]

Plogryn spawn sound cue but he doesn't appear

Then you get near the wall that bosses burst out of

[lusty turtle]

oh i did that before and just made up a bunhc of stuff before this patch

[still quartz]

some-

[lusty turtle]

its fun

[still quartz]

BODY ONCE TOLD ME-

Then you die

[sterile stone]

“Get out of my hive”

Last words the ogryn ever heard

[still quartz]

"what are you doing in my HIVE"

[ripe quest]

At what point do you just make a Boltgun variant dedicated to those players who want to shoot hordes.

[royal vortex]

skele can u tell the dude who made a penance for killing a bon w/o being spit on i will have my revenge

[lusty turtle]

doubt we'd ever get a volleygun tbh, we'd just get a normal hotshot

[south folio]

solution: annihilate the userbase

[lusty turtle]

don't want vet stepping on ogryn toes

[lusty turtle]

ye thats why ogryn and psyker are gone next update

[royal vortex]

hell yeah

[south folio]

rude

[upbeat widget]

Finally

[royal vortex]

vet and zealot, the 2 genders

[sterile stone]

Wait what’s the difference between hotshot and volley

I thought they were the same thing

[coarse birch]

Simply remove ogryn

[fleet zealot]

big E finally gave me flechette

now i can meme

[coarse birch]

Oh

[ripe quest]

one is hot and the other is a letter off from valley

[frosty herald]

Chasm starion puzzle is steam pipes

[sturdy owl]

The scab gunners literally have hotshot volleyguns already

[sterile stone]

Understandable

[lusty turtle]

volley is a backpack fed machinegun

[still quartz]

Flechette Scattershot Kantrael Shotgun

[lusty turtle]

which the issue is there, backpacks are cosmetics

[still quartz]

Burn, Bleed

Literally for the memes

[ripe quest]

Imagine it everyone, Boltgun variant with 12 cleave 1.5 unarmored/infested ADMs and it comes with Cavalcade and Flechette.

[sterile stone]

I mean can’t you just make the volley gun mag fed like the las gun or plasma

[sturdy owl]

Hotshot/hellgun are now interchangeable terms for a sufficiently suped up lasgun

Volley gun is a rapid fire variant of a hotshot/hellgun

[lusty turtle]

they also have burst fire lascarbines so thats not really a good measuring stick

[fleet zealot]

yes sir/ma'am/enby

[sturdy owl]

Lascarbines would be a fine addition too

[still quartz]

akshually I'm a freak of nature

So honestly all of those apply

[sterile stone]

You’re a furry?

[still quartz]

Jesus no

[sturdy owl]

Like a laser autopistol, except not bad

[still quartz]

I'm a weeb

[sterile stone]

https://tenor.com/view/novela-telenovela-shocked-zoom-omg-gif-25795602

[royal vortex]

i want a burstfire autopistol

thats like a halfway between a vraks 3 and agri brauto for sound

[lusty turtle]

i want a triplex lasgun

with all 3 fire modes

[fleet zealot]

same

https://tenor.com/view/ferret-gif-11629714461182822381

[still quartz]

https://tenor.com/bovoo.gif

[fleet zealot]

i'm not a furry it's too expensive

[sterile stone]

Nobody talking about a rotary grenade launcher or las shotgun

Sad times

[vast basin]

I want a twin linked boltgun for oggy

[lusty turtle]

honestly i don't see humans getting launchers or machineguns because ogryn exists

something something class identity

[still quartz]

I just want shield + any kind of stick weapons for the small classes

[sturdy owl]

As long as I get the gatling laser experience I don't care if it has a backpack attached to it. But ogryns can have multilasers, while vets can have hotshot volley guns. It better be a good gatling laser experience though. None of this gatling peashooter business like with the current 6d.

A heat based limited (rather than ammo limited) volleygun would be interesting though.

[sterile stone]

I mean the 10 people who play ogryn wouldn’t mind

I bet

[still quartz]

I'd take a fuckin manhole cover + pipe

[fleet zealot]

zealot could get a shield

psyker already has deflector

[still quartz]

Let me live my dreams as Flail and Shield Saltzpyre on Zealot

FOot Knight Kruber as Ogryn isn't enough

[upbeat widget]

Zealot should get a twohanded shield

[sterile stone]

For honor conq main spotted

[still quartz]

Fuck it, double door shield from DS3

[still quartz]

No actually I main Black Prior now

I moved on from Warmonger

[upbeat widget]

Bulldozer rp zealot

[sterile stone]

Oh word

I won’t lie

Vet should get some bulky ass armor

[still quartz]

Vet should wear full plate armor

[sterile stone]

Would be nice to shake it up a bit

[still quartz]

"parry this you filthy casual"

[sterile stone]

Whatever they’re doing with the scions armor

Clearly we ain’t getting it for a while

They’ve got a full Elysian set

But not a single update to the scions armor

[sturdy owl]

Brautos and heavy stubbers seem to coexist just fine across the classes. They can have similarities and be distinct enough.

[ripe quest]

Ogryn gets the big ones we get the little ones with more ammo

[sturdy owl]

"We're getting low on funds after strangling our golden goose"

"Release the scion helmet early, it's our only chance"

[sterile stone]

I wouldn’t be surprised if the scions helmet gets added to a bundle

They’ve done this with previous bundles

Mashing parts of clothing from one into another

[still quartz]

I do that even if they don't do it themselves

I'm allergic to using items from the same set

And then I'm like "WHY DOESN'T IT FIT CORRECTLY"

I never learn

[sterile stone]

The squad leader top goes will with a lot of pants

Like the plated cadian pants or the kasr fatigues

[nimble fiber]

[frosty herald]

Argh the servers

[visual blade]

new poses go whack

[ember yew]

the two on the right side are praying for crafting rework

zealous believers

[frosty herald]

They are praying before being executed

[fleet glade]

they about to hit the nastiest “woah” ever

[split ibex]

So is momentum no longer the go-to keystone for crusher?

[shy river]

https://youtu.be/Nq_r19xoKJE?si=ei18WCTXsbr4_MJy

[ripe quest]

no he's just changing lists in regards to breakpoints since you can't go beyond 15 if I had to guess. Judgement is still great.

[coarse birch]

Are we posting woah memes

What year is it

[lean lark]

glad to see they didnt fix the curio ratings for old curios

i get to keep the unique 200's

[royal vortex]

it hasn't really changed significantly. its a minor uptime/single digit percentage damage/aspd etc decrease

unless you have some very strong bps riding on a specific momentum stack count that's now unreachable (you don't) the change isn't very significant

[coarse birch]

It doesnt affect that one dreg gunner one does it

I forget if that used momentum

[royal vortex]

i had some absurd self gaslighting moments while doing these bps

[coarse birch]

Dont worry i gaslight myself over duelling sword for 10 straight hours

[royal vortex]

dreg gunner is roughly about 15 momentum stacks anyways (probs slight variation depending on damage stats) so if you have a good roll its probs unchanged

[coarse birch]

Just ask arco

[south folio]

josho at his strongest moment

and i can confirm as to yoshi gaslighting himself (i forgot what this was over)

[coarse birch]

Pen/cleave on duelling sword

[south folio]

ah right

so tragic

[coarse birch]

Not being able to figure out which move the code pointed to at the time didnt help

[split ibex]

Got it, thanks 👍

[royal vortex]

4800 hp on a bulwark now

god damn

[frosty herald]

Chunky

[radiant nacelle]

Up from how much?

[royal vortex]

i think like 3000-something

[radiant nacelle]

Wow

Big increase

[royal vortex]

fuck i think the easiest way to kill them might be special light qq h1 qq h1

[coarse birch]

Ew

[royal vortex]

theres some other stuff u can do but

[coral smelt]

so uh

i just played a game where my bolter could not open buwark shield

[radiant nacelle]

That's not concerning at all

🙃

[lean lark]

just ask them gently

they're ogryns after all

[coarse birch]

Oh my 20% colat def wont open them anymore lol

Barely did before

[coral smelt]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrJ8QesKsO0&t=27s&ab_channel=JLStudio

@radiant nacelle heres martydom gameplay i just recorded

[radiant nacelle]

Oh I've used martyrdom before

I'll give it a watch tho

[royal vortex]

agri shotgun slug still does it in one shot

[coarse birch]

Agri shotgun supremacy

[nimble fiber]

what are the preferred blessings on agri again?

[royal vortex]

no respite full bore for a normal agri shotgun

if ur on crack u play scattershot manstopper

[coral smelt]

fr

67% collateral bolter cannot open bulwark

wtf

[royal vortex]

this has been an indirect buff to the already good exe stance bolter build

because exe stance on vet doubles ranged impact

so u open it in 2

my 77 collat bolter opens a bulwark in 4

[lean lark]

theres always the option of being a normal person and waiting for them to do an attack and kil lthem instantly afterwards

[coral smelt]

used to be one bolter shot to open, run in with caxe for oneshot

[nimble fiber]

but that would be boring lmao

[quartz silo]

Anyone have any idea about some wack movement speed build I seen someone using earlier? They had a dagger and would charge the attack and just sprint they literally sprinted/lunged the whole map up to the elevator it was really trippy

[royal vortex]

if u have a large enough dodge distance u can just side dodge and hit them anyways

knifechads eating GOOD

[north sedge]

Impossible! (I don't shoot bulwarks on zealot)

[coarse birch]

One day i will get manstopper

[royal vortex]

the trick: bring knife

[coarse birch]

I sold fletchette the other day not paying attention

[lean lark]

if you have a team with enough brainpower they will take them out while you aggro them

[royal vortex]

heavies have increased movespeed

so u just heavy and then slide as u let go

[quartz silo]

I’m leaning like insane speed. Like I thought they were hacking for the first quarter till I seem lunging around

Wish I got a clip

[coarse birch]

Knife does get pretty stupid

[ember yew]

you can get + sprint speed on wep + 10% sprint talent

[royal vortex]

shroudfield also buffs movement speed

[quartz silo]

Must’ve been that. They sprinted through an entire auric maelstrom. We all died and he was sat waiting at the respawn at the end of the section to pick us up

[royal vortex]

but you just need knife

and you can already outrun every enemy in the game

[ember yew]

At least he didnt run ahead to agro entire map, then die at the elevator

and those mobs are coming back for you

[nimble fiber]

I need elevator music in game pls

[royal vortex]

i spent 30k plas on a level 15 char for manstopper flechette

[coarse birch]

I got it from emp

[quartz silo]

Everyone was cheering him on I’ll be honest I was not sharing the sentiment after the equivalent of like 6 hordes had merged at the end

[coarse birch]

I havent farmed for it or really bothered checking tho

[royal vortex]

you will NEVER be a bleedinator

[north sedge]

Most of the time knife speedos are a detriment

[coral smelt]

i still dont understand why a shotgun slug can open bulwarks but a bolter round cannot

[quartz silo]

I don’t think he even took any health damage

[coarse birch]

This is the most hurtful thing youve said to me

[coral smelt]

space marines should start using shotguns not bolters

[ember yew]

would be more fun if you could actually destroy the shield

or disarm

[quartz silo]

I’ll go as far to say I think it’s the best player I’ve ever seen

[royal vortex]

i know

[lusty turtle]

yoshi i want you to answer for psyker crimes

why do i get psykers that blow up instantly then alt F4

[ember yew]

[royal vortex]

me, mankar, and arco had a series of ogryn players who griefed and then alt f4'd when they died

it was bizarre

[ember yew]

ogryn's bizzare adventure

[royal vortex]

one dude blew up 2 poxbursters on mankar and then the next was firing his stubber into a horde next to a netted arco

[coarse birch]

Why am i answering for bad psykers

Am i the resident psyker now

[nimble fiber]

apparently

[quartz silo]

I always feel like I would love a knife build because my drip suits it but then I remember it’s built around running off and I get angry anytime I see someone else do it

[coarse birch]

Also sorry

[royal vortex]

the knife does not physically force you to be the next room over from ur teammates

[coarse birch]

I can play in like an hour and a half i dont do that 🙂

[quartz silo]

Look at my beautiful boy he’s never getting new cosmetics with my current fit

[median steeple]

you hear voices when you play knife and are compelled to follow them

"leave the team"

"eat the BoN"

[nimble fiber]

poor BoN

[radiant nacelle]

Knife zealots are psykers confirmed burn the heretic

[royal vortex]

god i wish i had recorded the knife duo on refinery delta

that was fun

[coarse birch]

IT WAS SO GOOD

[royal vortex]

melee combat becomes funny when ur only way of having staying power is chastise

[lusty turtle]

might be free about then

playin with some friendos atm

[coarse birch]

Tis fine

[pearl valve]

by friendos he means just me

we have 2 spots

[royal vortex]

god bulwarks are so much better

[coarse birch]

Trust me

Im aware

That you like bulwarks

[nimble fiber]

Is it wrong to try to pick up bulwarks in a dungeon

[royal vortex]

lmao

[coarse birch]

Im so fucking aware

[frosty herald]

As an old saying goes

Hestia is bestia

[placid fiber]

[sterile stone]

What's your pen score?

[paper pine]

not bad for a first roll

[royal vortex]

that is a couple pen points off perfection

u just swap groaners and poxwalkers and u can keep the other slot open really

[plain ferry]

could upgrade the 20% damage to 25% damage buff

[coarse birch]

If only all weapons were as easy to roll as crusher

[royal vortex]

not worth losing a slot over

doesn't make any real difference for BPs

[coarse birch]

What if it bugs me tho

[royal vortex]

deal with it

[plain ferry]

lmao

[coarse birch]

I hope they revert bulwarks just for you

[royal vortex]

thats fine ill go back to opening them with 1 bolter shot and staggering infinite amounts of them with crusher l1

🙂

[coarse birch]

Gonna bring ap and just shoot them to reset their stance

[royal vortex]

blocked

[coarse birch]

Yeah you will get blocked

Thats the point

[paper pine]

Just saw a dude with 80 on all stats apart from mobility on revolver

His perks werent good tho

[coarse birch]

Those 4 80 rolls are destined to always be bricked

[lean lark]

fake news

[lusty turtle]

we just duplicated the battery from one of the puzzles oops

[coarse birch]

Just fix it smh

[red mesa]

i havent seen the new condition a single time lol

[lean lark]

its mediocre

[red mesa]

ya it kinda sounds mediocre lol

[opaque island]

it either forces you to stay bck for a sec or push through if you're in the middle of the pox gas field in my experience so far which can lead to bad situations if I havent tried sitting in it to see exactly how deadly it is

[ember yew]

i'd say its pretty boring

[royal vortex]

rn p sure the gas buffs toughness regen instead of decreasing it

and u can only get it on non-maelstrom with just hi5+gas

so u have almost 0 specials

[quaint verge]

Why would they have a danish voice krall

Just why

[royal vortex]

i like krall

i have 0 idea why hes a mission handler

[quaint verge]

I hate the danlish accent

[royal vortex]

man radiates "i put on this uniform and they just let me in here" energy and i respect it. fake it till u make it

[median steeple]

krall is just him

[quaint verge]

Idm his attitude

I just despise the danlish accent

[lean lark]

josho ifi remember correctly didnt you like have a hyperfocus on vet shovels at one point

[royal vortex]

i used them for a bit

i would not describe it as hyperfocus

that may have been redverse

[lean lark]

probably

but anyways

which of the three do i choose

idk how to build a shovel so

• its been like 6 months or some shit since ive touched this game

[royal vortex]

probs the first one

flak/cara are both fine and u can swap the blessings to w/e

[lusty turtle]

very important

[pearl valve]

vaccum capsule

[royal vortex]

are u carrying the fkin power cell to the end

[coarse birch]

New duo run idea

[lusty turtle]

ofc

[royal vortex]

No.

[lusty turtle]

what are we supposed to do, leave it there?

[coarse birch]

Lmao

Imgaine

[south folio]

just eat it

[royal vortex]

its old and nasty

yes u leave it there

[coarse birch]

Carry the power cell to the end mk4 lasgun mk4 taxe 👌

[royal vortex]

how the fuck would u ever have fun using those weapons

[coarse birch]

Both are based

[lusty turtle]

tnf

tbf#

mk 4 lasgun is fun

[coarse birch]

TRUE

skeles based

[lusty turtle]

just uhhh

carpal tunnel

[coarse birch]

This is why skele best mod

[royal vortex]

i dont like any of the lasguns that much

[lusty turtle]

josho is cringe

[royal vortex]

if im like man i wanna play a lasgun i play laspistol or helbore

i was a helbore enjoyer before they gave it free 100% crit and infinite ammo

[coarse birch]

I prefer infantrys to helbore but i like both

Laspistol is good too although i much prefer X

[royal vortex]

the hb3 needs a chunkier ready-up sfx than it has rn

[coarse birch]

Has a nice feel too it even if its for sure worse

[royal vortex]

and it would be perfect

that and maybe un-gimping the bayonet

[lusty turtle]

i like the MG XII kant teh most but it needs like

the sights for all the kants are fucked with theri recoil

they need some love

[royal vortex]

yeah

[coarse birch]

Yeah 12 is good

Favorite snipery gun

Next to vraks 7

[royal vortex]

the hb3 holds a special place in my heart

it is awkward, it is slow, but u fkin hunt those ogryns

[lusty turtle]

ye the HB3 is amazing

HB in general are great

but the 3 fucks big targets and it feels good

[coarse birch]

Hb2 is my fav

Do i just like fast fire rates

[lusty turtle]

do u use graia braced

[coarse birch]

Have been very recently

Mainly columnus braced tho

[royal vortex]

i mostly stopped with brautos because i felt like i could do too much with them

chastise armor strip is deranged

lets u do stupid shit

[coarse birch]

Graia braced with chastise is

Gross

All of them honestly

Its kinda cool but def op

[royal vortex]

imagine a mixed horde with maulers/specials/poxwalkers

what do u do

hit f with the brauto and shoot until its all gone

v cool

[coarse birch]

Braced autoguns just feel so good to me

[desert fractal]

Ogryn popping into the Shouty chat to say he hopes yall are having a good day or you're gonna get an ogryn™️ hug

[coarse birch]

Im a big sucker for shotgun/brauto/bolter

On zealot

Namely the first 2

[royal vortex]

agri shotgun is fun

[coarse birch]

I like lawby/agri a lot

Lawby is p basic but it just does what i want it to

And it has a nice feel

And agri feels unique and i enjoy the slug a lot

[royal vortex]

kant shotgun is kinda comical at close range

u get some revolver-esque special 0.5 shots

[coarse birch]

Very glad to see shotguns be in a better place than the dark times

Yeah kant interests me the least oddly enough

[royal vortex]

i miss when kant shotgun was better than revolver

[coarse birch]

And plasma

And lawby shot gun was uh

Smite?

But only when you released it

[royal vortex]

i mean u just didnt use it

the scattershot was so depressing

i miss scattershot being 4% crit at t4

[coarse birch]

Did the primary even do anything good

I used and saw it once

It was the only shotgun 😭

[royal vortex]

no the damage on it was still sad

[lusty turtle]

yoshi n josho

are u free

for darktideingin

[coarse birch]

In one hour

I will be free

[lusty turtle]

stinky

how about u josho

[coarse birch]

Are you not free in one hour

[royal vortex]

i could probably play around the same time as yoshi

[lusty turtle]

ye but i just wanted to be mean cause ur not free now

[coarse birch]

Ah ok

I would have felt bad

[lusty turtle]

ur both so mean to me 😔

[royal vortex]

someone has to keep u in check

[coarse birch]

Im literally the nicest guy

[royal vortex]

also bro

the refinery delta end event

oh my god

u have to play the game...

[nimble fiber]

[coarse birch]

I felt so bad not being able to keep playing with josho

Yesterday

[royal vortex]

u were falling asleep at the desk

bro

[south folio]

fucked up

[coarse birch]

I know

But for the longest time i didnt have people to play with like that so i always feel bad when i can't

Despite being up for 30.hours by that point

[south folio]

this is proof that josho is emotionally abusing yoshi to force him to play with him

otherwise, who would willingly play with him

so sad

[royal vortex]

sir

[lusty turtle]

its so fucked up their marriage has come to this

[south folio]

i approached and suddenly the gravitational pull of josho's crimes pulled me into his game

[coarse birch]

Any and all jokes that have come to my head i cannot make

[royal vortex]

i am innocent

[lusty turtle]

banning yoshi for thought crime

[royal vortex]

except for somehow accidentally blocking every single one of skele's agri revolver shots

[south folio]

you know how

sick bastard

[lusty turtle]

"accidentally"

[royal vortex]

we were in a series of corridors

and i was meleeing stuff

[coarse birch]

Bro if i was trying to use agro revo and couldnt because the knife zealot kept walking into me i would commit crimes

I literally need perfect conditions to be Able to fire the fucking gun

[royal vortex]

perfect conditions (aim anywhere that isnt a teammate)

[lusty turtle]

plz fatshark remove shot blocking

josho is abusing it to make my game worse

[royal vortex]

https://streamable.com/qta0u9

this is what i think about agri revolver

[coarse birch]

YOU KNOW ABOUT THE SWAY AND SUPPRESSION YOU FUCKING COCKROACH

[royal vortex]

lmfao

[coarse birch]

Ok comparatively im still ahead

And you provoked me

[royal vortex]

simply don't hit teammates ?

[coarse birch]

Im not

Also skele im so sorry

But i will be running smite

I apologize in advance to all

[royal vortex]

disgustang

[coarse birch]

I know

I cannot defend myself other than its for a penance and thats it

[fossil crag]

what mod is that, the one that add extra details for talents?

[shy river]

https://y.yarn.co/8eaad4bb-cbb2-47a9-bed0-e1cdeadc79bd_text.gif

[coarse birch]

I have 500 psyker levels and this will be my first time

I never thought the day would come

[vivid hawk]

the low cleave gonna be a problem?

[royal vortex]

no

besides mk15 being target capped it also has relatively small scaling on the cleave targets stat

[quaint verge]

The smite one is painful

[vivid hawk]

left or right?

[royal vortex]

perfstrike isnt really useful for the mk15 (get more value out of it on the 2 since the h1 isnt target capped)

so i'd probably go with the left

i mean right

im dumb

[vivid hawk]

k, that's what I figured

ideally I'd like the stam to be maniac or something more useful, but stam is better than block eff at elast

[royal vortex]

yea

[vocal pulsar]

Yes you are

🤗

[coarse birch]

Hi mankar

[coarse birch]

Right for sure

[vivid hawk]

@royal vortex you still a Crusher enthusiast?

[coarse birch]

Left is actually near perfect if not for perfect strike

[royal vortex]

[vivid hawk]

for the mk15, is cleave the dump?

or is it equal with mobility?

[royal vortex]

cleave or mobility

[placid fiber]

Jesus it takes the rainbow gun 496 out of 500 of its ammo to play the full song

[vocal pulsar]

Hi

[placid fiber]

in gungeon

[royal vortex]

either really works

[sterile stone]

What are you doing gamer

[placid fiber]

I was curious, okay? xD

[shy river]

Gungeon yessssssss

[median steeple]

watching the level 439 zealot melee the burster horde

amazing

[vivid hawk]

really like the mk15 evis with a crit build, curious how mk2 compares

[placid fiber]

Am I the only one who thinks this looks like a sandwich?

[solar gorge]

that's a powermove btw

[median steeple]

the best part is

he never died

[solar gorge]

absolute chad

[median steeple]

bro tanked every single burster horde

[solar gorge]

https://tenor.com/view/musculos-gif-20787164

[median steeple]

then proceeded to fail the jump from the bridge to the valk

[sterile stone]

Wasted all that greatness face tanking burster garbage juice

[solar gorge]

he had unfinished buisness down below

[sterile stone]

https://tenor.com/view/viking-jump-viking-leap-off-cliff-man-jump-viking-beast-mode-gif-15761641664830433810

[placid fiber]

Unicorn horn...

Also it takes until 20 ammo, not 4

[sterile stone]

What the hell is that next to you

Is that an attack hamster?

[frosty herald]

missed choice to make it the pony gun from gears

[placid fiber]

That's the Hunter's dog...

[sterile stone]

I'm gonna assume it's an attack hanmter

Fuck it

hampter

[placid fiber]

It doesn't attack sadly

It just digs stuff up

and warns you about mimics

Okay, the Robot's left hand is sick

I mean it's an autocannon that shoots lasers or w/e...

[median steeple]

god the WH3 reworks are goated

[lusty turtle]

nvm im not playing

🤢

[coarse birch]

Thats so fair

[lusty turtle]

just lemme know when ur on

[coarse birch]

Yeah give me like 10

[lusty turtle]

no rush

[fleet zealot]

now i am tall zealot

thank you fatshark

no more short zealot problems

[coarse birch]

@royal vortex @lusty turtle gaming

[royal vortex]

drugs

[coarse birch]

way ahead of you

[lusty turtle]

there in a sec

[jagged aspen]

dont disrepect my short KING, he can dish out the emperors mercy all the same, he just cant reach the top tomes in the librarium

[fleet zealot]

yea by breaking your neck looking up to hit headshots

[frosty herald]

rip the people that cant platform in first person

[solar gorge]

damn

more barrel modifier finally coming in handy

thx to that barrel kills penance

[fleet zealot]

i need a new helmet

i'm stuck using the eyepatch cause like every helmet looks dorky or clips with my chest piece

(the plate armor one)

[fossil crag]

whats the problem with short zealots?

just asking since i am short zealot

xD

[frosty herald]

Erm

https://tenor.com/view/pat-pat-gif-24957682

[lusty turtle]

am on now

[lusty turtle]

u comin?

[open pollen]

A stab to the back of the head is still a backstab, yeah?

[royal vortex]

yes

[misty mason]

Who is Josho?

Do they know porkmenon?

[misty mason]

Yes

[quaint verge]

The one and only. Crusher guide authir

[misty mason]

Huh, where is lazorr. I would have expected him to be around since the patch

[frosty herald]

(Outdated)

[misty mason]

Also, have people been doing the loner/stealth penance? I'm curious what weapons people are using

I have been using thammer, but I might actually switch to evisc

I figure I want something that has good cleave and high enough damage to 1 tap any non ogryn ranged enemies

[frosty herald]

Probs heavy sword

[rustic steppe]

Which weapons are poppin rn?

Crusher still goated?

[median steeple]

yea

I dont think any of the weapons were changed recently

[misty mason]

Rashad probably the best melee in the game rn

[spare dome]

yknow, people keep saying that

but ive looked at the crusher for longer than i care to admit

and i think i can confidently say

there isnt a single goddamn goat on that thing

not a one

[royal vortex]

its me, im the goat

baaaa

[median steeple]

they're microscopic

[rustic steppe]

Crusher is my one and only and if you don't fuck with Crusher, you an opp and a heretic.

[spare dome]

more like a kid

[misty mason]

It is very funny that they're forcing people to try loner

[rustic steppe]

Are they?

[median steeple]

you WILL play loner and you will LIKE IT

[spare dome]

what do you mean its the best aura it allows me to flank, dodge melee attacks, slide under bullets, crit, use heavy attacks, melee enemies, and regenerate toughness in any and every capacity

[misty mason]

Force, as in there's a penance for using it

[rustic steppe]

Counter argument.

Nah.

[misty mason]

Get a load of this knife zealot

[sterile stone]

You out here getting carried again gamer?

[frosty herald]

Im done for tonight

But all my games went well

[sterile stone]

You get the title for 10 aurics yet?

[frosty herald]

Not yet

But i have confidence

I got 5 in a row

[sterile stone]

Haven't seen a person with it atm

[spare dome]

so fucking tired

[misty mason]

Could you not just bail as you're about to die while down

[frosty herald]

dont think so

it has very strict requirements

and for some reason i am blessed by god himself

because i got the no downs on auric maelstrom penance already unlocked

[misty mason]

Aren't the requirements complete aurics without dying

[shy river]

Is it dying or downs

[misty mason]

Dying

[shy river]

That's not nearly as bad

[misty mason]

The downs is a separate penance

Been in since day 1

[sterile stone]

You can

If you bail out right before you die

It still counts

Unless you get downed by a DH

It removes it

[fleet zealot]

some weapons have trouble hitting weakspots on tall enemies

[radiant nacelle]

The wording looked ambiguous sorry

You CAN bail out before you die and it won't ruin your streak? Or it WILL ruin your streak?

[fossil crag]

true also sometimes you cant throw as high compare to an ogryn

[fossil crag]

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[fossil crag]

me me

[maiden path]

chat

characters transfered

its time

@frosty herald arise......

[misty mason]

I left my earphones at home again

[frosty herald]

im done for today

[misty mason]

Another day at work with no music or podcasts

[maiden path]

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