#zealot-class
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Not taking Piety
??????
i have like 1 piety build
I've forgone Duellist on Mk II Evis and Chaxe a good number of times.
i used to run piety but i am not a fan of crit cdr
chase 12 probably doesnt need it really right
Just because they don't really affect meaningful BPs
i take piety for meme crit cdr builds
yea chaxe doesn't use duelist well at all
could probably use it on the mk12
but mk4 nah
You 1 shot like everything on Chaxe for free, Mk IV even just needs keystone buffs for enemies.
Mk XII esp doesn't need it
yeah i figured youd only get anything out of it on like cspawn and plogryn
which is like
i'm jjust saying it can use it
w/e
mk4 can't even use it
i really really hate using the slow weapons, because sometimes crushers spawn out of the room 2 meters away from you, and then now (lets say you are using flamer)
you have no CC and likely to get OH-ed
or on bolter you only kill like two
yee you'd get a boss damage increase out of it but it'd be a similar damage increase to what Purge the Unclean offers.
yeah fair
yeah ill generally try and take something to deal with crushers, although with bolter you should be able to reliably get like 4
with how many chastise
with pinning/cava and chastise
how many chastise you use, 1?
1
this any good not sure about these axes
wat about bulwark @coarse birch
weakspot helps
how many bulwark you can kill 1 mag
uh bulwark should be similar numbers honestly
realistically
i think exhil got up to 11 crushers in one mag but thats psyk numbers
stuff like dance of death will make it easier to not miss and keep hitting heads with hipfire too
thats weird, ok thanks, i go test again next time
am going to try running crusher again too.
exhil has done a good bit of testing with it you can ask him about it when hes around if you want
oh boy, I got a yari launcher with 4x ammo and 30% more damage >:3
If you need something dead yesterday, look no further than the yari launcher lol
You can get 15 but you need to land each shot.
But the setup for it is also a bit more manual now.
No, this is a bad one no matter the blessings
its dismantled into the void already lol

Not going to lie knive vi is actually good when you do heavy>push attack repeat chain
lol I have SO much armor xD
I got hit once that floor :/
Now time to shit the bed against the robot's past boss x.x
Feels good seeing ammo like this x.x
wish me luck x.x
I knew it 😦
is damage stat important for flamer or do i just need burn to be high
No, you mainly want burn, cloud radius, and ammo to be higher
This is the most American thing I've seen since waking up
Heh
burn determines the rate you lay stacks, and I think its damage too
damage affects the strength of the cone while firing
which is like, less than the burn stacks past 6ish
cloud radius affects both the distance the cone travels and the width/height
so a larger cloud radius will let you shoot close to but not hitting walls and cover and still put the cone through to the enemies behind
moreso on left click puffity than right click jet strea
but that's fine, it's the left click puff that staggers everything not wearing carapace and suppresses anyone with a gun who can see the poor idiot you just made my next rashun
which laspistol is better on zealot?
all things bein equal, I like the faster firing one
the newer one that hits harder will make you do the breakpoint nerd math to find what you should have on it
And the Accatran is a critty MG1a ish
it's frustratingly like, 80% of the shot you need to kill the thing
but damn does it crit
hrm, ill try the newer one then since i like crits
How convenient, thanks brunt.
now to see if this can have a good 2nd perk and blessing
well if the weaker one does THAT
checks vendors while a single bead of sweat forms
that's using the charge armor ignore btw
you can replace Between the Eyes with Dumdum and Ranged Crit with Flak
the las pistol is just the most glaring example of what that armor ignore does
because it's worth stating, if you charge and swing a melee
you get armor ignore for that swing
if you charge with a gun
you get the full duration of the armor ignore
it just happens to be the case that the laspistol does more flak damage than anything else
so the damage disparity looks hilarious
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even more chucklefucky on carapace
I've murked two crushers mid job getting lucky with crits on a charge armor ignore
The #1 is zarona revolver
you dont wanna chastise flak armor with the laspee, you will actually do 1/3 leas damage than if you didnt
Brautoguns
other great options are both laspistols, braced autos, columnus iag
shotguns (any of them really)
and the BOLTER
bolter if you got balls the size of the moon
any braced autogun, columnus mk5(crit build), laspistol mk2(crit build), bolter, agripina mk1 autogun (critbuild)
Bolters mid ngl
for shotguns shotgun experts can say smth
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The pullout time is wayy too long for my playstyle
Sprint cancel it or throw a knife
you can bypass the clunk
Real as fuck bruthu
the bolter is an aquired taste I'll give it that
the learning curve is frustrating no doubt
its worth it
it's mostly for magdumping on bosses
but it's laser bream accurate at any range and one pops most ranged
it's really good at that
and you have the throwing knives to handle shooting quickly
and magdumping masssed packs of enemies is basically like free therapy
i remember prenerf
that video was abso before that
that was before careers even
but if you play the video on loop, the music lines up perfectly
so you can watch me kill a braindead big guy over and over and over and while kickassin like I was when I recorded it
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Im ngl i kinda dont like how you just insta throw knives
don't watch the video it's 110% cringe dancing
I wanna be able to inspect them
but the song, the song will get your nipples perky every time
kinda surprised nipples wasn't behind the chat filter nono word list tbh
Im ngl, i dont think ive been censored once in this server
can't say ma$ochism
the long R is abso struck
...and its the name of the medical condition in the diagnostic manual all docs everywhere use
Counter word, flagellant
cuz THEY are the maso's, dishing it out
and WE are the sadists who enjoy the pain of playing this game with half baked spawn ai
Which one
rhymes with Regarded
Wrong way round
lol dammit
That aint used anymore 💀
chalk it up to wuupsie
well there are more conditions that've been classified into other disorders and syndromes
but as far as I know when I walked the stage getting my doctorate MR was still the name for the list of conditions in the DSM6
prolly changed by now tho I bet you're right
hell when I was in elementary school the actual textbooks we used used the slur for female american indians as the official name
I mean like, im looking at it from a sort of informed guess view but if you've been through the wringer you'd prolly know more than me
the way a hundred years ago people used N-gress
so I'm prolly aged out of the current verbage lol
naw not really
I was in a server where they censored monarch lol
but they have some outlier words that're just borderline hilarious
Yeah
I get it, it's the official server they have to have to be word police cuz of the bots and trolls
so every time I tailor my sentence to be kosher I shout it at the top of my lungs
(for legal purposes this is a joke)
Ofc
yeah i just tried the laspistol i rolled
Nohohohoooohohoho
this thing feels like shit
going back to shotgun
Tragic
It is true, it feels crap imo
It's full of hidden strengths
It's the definition of boring but practical imo
Ignores suppression, crit synergy
But a revolver is like pointing the finger of the Emperor
the psucker gets a big qol boost with the laspistol getting their force push as the alternate
the zealot slappyhands alt was so lackluster I swapped it for a flashlight
if yall only ever buy a single thing from hallowette
ye that las push has some serious give
please make it this
the size of the trinket varies from weapon to weapon
so some weapons are just uh
maybe I'll try a boltgun next
what is wrong with that screenshot?
why is there just a red blotch next to your hand
Doug Dimmadong
this one got me so good my knees hit the desk
silent enemies are back and back in style
only heard his footsteps half a sec before the pounce
this one made me legit yelp out loud
the visual effects with raytracing and whatnot all set to Maxx Dicc, it's a lens flare prolly
it's less apparent live than it is in a still
weird
Dogs when they see you have food
he knows your about to get blasted off of a ledge
guys is it true that zealot is the better ogryn
certainliy where the sparklebonks are concerned
game said fuck you
heh yknow darktide has some of the most comedy gold hilarious facial expressions in the moment
not something I ever paid attention to before but some screengrabs
the third person mod def shows a lot more in the comedy department
https://fxtwitter.com/helldivers2/status/1777058473311625238 time for the blues to show up
shows some uh
....other things, too
so the bots are like gone gone?
there're still planets to fight on right, I was just about to fire it up
and nothing of value was lost
the bots will never come back !!!!!
ah trappers being an enemy of all time
those revamped eliminate auto forces on the tiny map were a fuckin chore
enemies already out when you land and you never get a single breath after
all other info is traitorous information
i mean
it's just trash mob
you drop in one of their installation tbh
not at 6 and 7
yeah i'm at 9
yeah I think a big part was me not understanding that bit
it's trash mobs
the only problems I had playing at 9 is the hulk spam
you're supposed to circle the outside edge and not try to get to thecenter
fuck those flame hulks
hulks are fine since you have the tools to one hit them
yeah the spawns after you get going a bit are like, full drops of chainsaw hand armored and atst scouts
and there is ZERO room on that map
we had tanks roll past the edge of the countdown line and stay there shooting at us
idk what happened but uh
total 'stop hitting yourself stop hitting yourself' tier memery
yep that's what I was trying to remember the name of
towards the end you cannot land without landing in the lap of a dozen dudes just standing still cuz there's so many
and that's with localization confusion
(best booster I will die on this hill go ahead and call the cops I'll tell them too)
I think its because they changed the map
yewp
it's an attack, not a defend like it used to be
that finally clicked for me after the like, third free ptsd session
after rigorous testing using only the strictest conditions
I have done me a science and lerdnt bile titans are impervious to my forehead
if you've seen the sets people have found in the files
any yoga pants sets
armor in hd2 is about to peak
I really need an armor that has flame resistance
God I'm going crazy being broke I need HD2 or I'm gonna go insane
(it shows ur huge muscles)
Good idea!
my coworker made like 3 grand last year just from donating plasma
I like how he uses the word donate too
Yeaaaaah
That rambo looking armor
With the gas mask
there's a green one and a red one yeah
And bandolier arm straps
but the red one is better because beret
whatys the great blessings fopr the XV eviscerator?
I'm looking forward to that upcoming war bond with that massive juggernaut looking armor
Always been a sucker for big armor
it's p cool
do you think fat shark is taking notes on how to do mtx right
but it's eclipsed by the WW1 armor
Lol no
sadge
I dont think the shop will ever get changed but they are adding more free armor
LMAO no
If they're getting out classed by CoD in terms of WH40k cosmetics
RAAAAAAAAAAAH
There ain't no way they're matching HD2
Oh please the cod cosmetics are ASS
I FUCKING HATE HOW COD GOT ACTUAL KARSKIN ARMOR BEFORE WE DID
i mean next patch is promising in term of drip
Have you seen the Sister of battle and kasrkin armor bundle CoD got?
the loyalist moebian sixth sets
I have
I hope the moebian armor looks good
Sister set is the only good looking one
according to testers it's very good
ur telling me cod has sister of battle, karskin, and space marine skins
when I don’t in Darktide????
that’s disrespect
i mean there ARE kasrkin skins in darktide
I fucking love the moebians I'd kill for them to get adapted to tabletop as renegade guard models
I dont eve care if they are mostly bad in CoD
its the fucking principle of it
wtf
These are the cod skins @heavy arch
das not fair
yeah what's the deal wit hthis
I want to be a mister of battle too
We don't get space marine skins because we aren't space marines lol
was there some big crossover event or something
I think someone did do a homebrew models for them
Not that I'm aware of
but I hope they become offical
whole thing struck me as really really odd
Activision just asked GW to liscence the armors or something
like, improbable
Yeah I saw those in the codex! They were loyalist moebian 6th
lol!!!!!
$30 to look like a mcfarlane toy
guard getting anything that isnt cadians is a god send
Still waiting on them to finish the Scions armorset
It's still just some dookie brown armor
With a silver trim
And shoddy looking elbow pads
literally want them to drop the cadian set in the files already so I can stop hearing about it
Yeah lol
im learning how to work Eva foam im making my own karskin cosplay
Hell yeah
I want whomever that's choosing these camo patterns to be surpervised
Cause who the fuck out here is making camos like red
And tan
What the fuck is that matching with
ppl who fight in deserts
When we have solid brown clothing as a better alternative
better than literal hive scum outfits
no men under arms as per the law from on high but you can still build out a sister of battle well enough
40k is odd and it's the same reason space marines have bright armor, some guard regiments are just Like That
Here’s use case for red and tan camo
I wanna ask the head lead of the art team
Why they're so adversed to making clean uniforms
It's not like they're issued to us.
It's specifically said they're mostly stolen by Howlette and her people.
I thought canon reason why it’s dirty is cuz it’s used armor
6th as well, sorta
God that Zealot set is so fucking good
we’re buying armor from deceased warband members
Still sad I was too broke for it
Not really
The kriegsmen aren't dead
they all come with calling cards of specific ppl don’t they
A good number of the uniforms we buy from howlette aren't dead people
they alive??
Yeah but they're usually alive
Yeah
oh ok
aren't dead yet much to their dismay and disappointment
so hand me downs from living ppl
despite their best efforts
They're mostly stated in present tense
Not even, stolen clothes.
I mean if you listen to the comms in the hub
Howlette can get her hands on rare shit
As she gets some rare brandy or something for zola
Augh I wish the set in the shop didn't have that fuck ugly chestpiece because I'd be SO CLOSE to My Dudes
So it ain't a stretch she can get some rare uniforms
zolas an inquisitor she can get whatever she wants
She's not
yep a good chunk of my psucker and shouty gear says in the detailed info panel how it came into my possession through hallowette was best left unasked
She's like a assistant manager at best
assistant inquisitor
oh right I forget about him
some of her lines make me wince the more I hear them
not cuz of the voice actress herself, but the writing
the argument she has with melk? in a mission start especially
I still get the feeling the other traitor is either Melk or Bald man.
I love Zola please treat her better writing team
hope it isn't cockney brit guy
I like him, he never insults okri's intelligence or anything
like the only non toxic relationship in the game for an ogryn lol
Melk shoulda stayed where be woulda been more interesting
As a bartender giving out contracts
Not whatever he is now.
yeah it doesn't fit his tone and timbre either
it looks so big on em
lmao
hey mister oxford history professor, you're a roughneck spy fixer now
or whatever I usually legitimately can't hear it over the killing hahah
Such is life in the employ of a rogue trader
on that note
everytime melk and hallowette are in teh same mission is great
Abelard, announce me to these cretins
Best I can do Kasrkin wise for armor
auric maels and even just the lesser ones are fuckin ** spicy ** spicy today
needs to be blue fr
still plenty doable but if the team starts to falter it fails quick
Ogryn has a helmet similar to this except it's blue
director has thrown double and triple spawns of the same thing on the same timer at us more than once today
Unreleased of course.
Oh God imagine if we got a xenos ally and the inquisition crew couldn't do shit because they'd be part of the shipmistress' crew. That would be really funny
I dont think that shit is ever gonna come out
"can we get the knife ear off the comms, please."
So believe it or not.
Brahms was suppose to be someone we could approach
And talk to
She has unreleased lines about her asking us to join her
Unfortunately content is usually cut for a reason
I mean in darktide's case
I know
It's the writers not knowing where they wanted to take the game
Hell yeah
I've come back around and worked it out with the aquila forehead implant
we're back together
I wish the implant was like a tat
Quotes said by the ship mistress Emora Brahms.
Includes lines from the new Patch #15 mission, and some unreleased hub lines (might be a future Mourningstar NPC). Enjoy!
Timestamps
Mourningstar Unreleased
00:00 Hub Idle
02:19 Interact Dislikes Character
03:31 Interact Likes Character
05:30 NPC First Interaction
*Mercantile HL-70-04, "The C...
I would run the aquila with other stuff if that was the case but for now I am stuck with just ink
im glad brahms is getting more shit in the newer missions but it is still lacking
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Here we go
This line in specific we never got
brahms a baddie fr
I've been having great fun knocking maulers to the dirt with this power maul(I know that it's overkill)
oh whoops, wrong message to reply to but that's the ogri one
I think we got it as a preorder or an event real close to relaese
I've had it a while
looks good but all it reminds me of is the beta helm
B-b-b-beta
pretty sure 9 is the best and the other two are pretty decent (I could be wrong I dont touch the stuff)
@rugged tree change trauma to skullcrusher and thats a perfect weapon
Mfw veteran coulda got a baller ass headset with existing cosmetics
what's really helped, is how they've gotten a lot better about color matching the overall mix of colors and hues the class is wearing
like matching most all the 'steel' colored metal armors to around the same shade
Ski mask, vox com headset, and a rebreather
unfortunately, I don't have it yet. I've neglected my zealot's blessing collection
and the desert stuff etc
suddenly your choices aren't all something that makes you look like a final fantasy side character
I'ma be real
I'd rather have my character look like some anime guy
Than a meth'd out floridian one crack pipe away from passing out
@zinc talon
Im so good at vigeo james
god I miss that bug
There's a mod you can use
never forget what they took from us
To make yourself shirtless
awesome
And everyone can see it
I would prob only use it for og
God i wish i could do that to grom
He is very handsome and needs to show it
The veteran's unreleased headpiece looks like something a zealot would wear
Fuck only knows why they have it
Nathan Fillion civilian pavilion
I can recreate it in the inventory list easily enough just flubbin the open close timings and catching it
and I can recreate it in my dreams
what came after was almost better
Yet another infinite load screen

DIZZIZ WOT MISSN JUS WUN ROUNDA RASHINS DUZ TO A LAD
Looking like a analogue horror creature
when you tried to swap to a preset outfit that still had the shirtless shirt saved in the gearset this's what it defaulted to
some green tier zealot robe I think from the commissary
as just a jesus christ stopgap
peak male body
Who is this marketed towards
Like who sitting here like
"Yeah I'd buy this head piece"
Never Forget what they took from us
istg I remember that vox mouth from like a form of marketing
oh its the fucking imperial guard art
Still unreleased
yeah credit where it's due, I was surprised by how faithfully fatshark has taken stuff from the tabletop and art and rolled out triple A tier renditions of it in a game
they said that those cosmetics are coming but not if they're penance or not
I hope they are
god
what blessings for cat sword? shred/rampage?
this has to be included in the penance update
I wish I could make my zealot run faster
Augh
ah yes the "devils claw"
I need some opinions
I got t3 savage sweep, do you value cleave or damage more? Or is momentum on zealot overkill and I should just put sweep/rampage and buff a perk?
I know the post isn't about it, but put headtaker or slaughterer over momentum(?) on your hammers 
Idk about evis tho
personally I would run ss over momentum but im pretty sure both are acceptable
I like thrust on my hammers
But my iron helm had a bad perk and t4 momentum seemed good for martyrdom
Yes, hammer always gets thrust
U get a med stim on a Marty build and your unstoppable
Just wish stamina on hammers was better
Momentum def better for tanking, I find breakpoint access more helpful but both work for different playstyles
I'm kind of returning so I'm a few patches behind on knowledge
i only have one zealot built and its cocain
just run faster then they can shoot or smth
I've found the tigress plus blazing piety combo decent
tf is tigress
Sweepy chainsword. Sorry autocorrect
i perfer Savage Sweep and shred
not going rampage is troll
rampage's tooltip is wrong, it gives power, not just damage, so it also boosts your cleave and stagger

@ivory marlin
There's something strange about that ferret
Rough
UGH STAR TREK
It is not
NO NO NO NO
It looks like star trek
Wouldn't you like to know, cream cheese boy
Canned Virginia can talk
😒
canned virginia
Well, with no bots I might get ready for this new DT update
But now the bugs must be taken
But they don’t even give a warning when they shoot butt artillery at you
dont forget the giant automaton fleet outside of the galaxy
I hope the blues come back first
Our government says there is none
thats part of the fun
I can't imagine canned vegetables in the 1980s
what
why
why
who
where
I just can't imagine living in the 80s
it was fun
you're like those ppl who can't understand a hypothetical
poor 72 iq stan
You were alive during the 80s?
What the fuck
yeah of course
the hot bus
Wtf Doris
guck
must fucking suck
none of us rode the hot bus, stan
DOUGH SHUT UP
I am older than you lol
short and hot
What were the 80s like
no just hot
stan, i too was alive in the 80s
Yeah but do you remember them
yes

we literally talked about the 89 earthquake a few days ago
well, I lived in Europe, so between AIDS, the USSR dying
Documentaries like Heathers tell me is was a pretty great time to grow up in.
I know but you were young
why are you sex facing "i remember the 80s"
Who is Heather
I'm not
leg warmers get him going
tbh, the 90's felt like a new hope
NO
then 2001 happened
you've never heard of heathers
Heathers is the name of the documentary
wow
and nope, we're fucked
What
im a lil disappointed stan
this is stan, he only knows commercials
What about The Breakfast Club?
What
Was that movie actually about breakfast
i won't explain it
The title reminds me of having hotel continental breakfasts
i will leave u in the dark
what about ferris bueller
Ugh
Never even ate breakfast, 0/10
no one got shot
stan did enjoy jamie foxx's performance in back to the future
what about canned corn tortillas in the 80s?
What
Why does eveyone reference this movie
because it was insanely popular and constantly on tv?
stan only watches commercials and star trek
😉
i hide my shame
Another interesting one is River's Edge with teenage Keanu and Crispin Glover
in 3 hours from now he will reply to this message with "What"
😒
Shut up
yes u are
No
Shut up
Shut down
house slide
Darktide players learning Darktide isn't a live service game (they'll leave a negative review)
lmfao
mine
This isn't poker I'm just copy pasting your own words
We'll both pretend you didn't say the stalker one.
God dammit
takung house slide sounds like a martial arts move
uhhhh they are updating it after it released???????
live service
i think hsword bolter might be my favorite loadout these days
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hi mankar
claw bolter slaps too
i use claw on psyker a good bit
so i run hsword on zealot
still like claw on him tho
dclaw has no scoop
with shred piety
u cant compete with the scoop
i like dominator with a recoiless
this in Darktide when
Exhillious do you like peanut butter
I like a 236P into 41236K DI w/ some cheddar
@vocal pulsar go back to dreaming about ur fkin soulblaze bolter u weirdo
I like it on stuff but I don't eat it on its own.
hes right here
yest but dclaw 7 has the poke
Where
i have trouble using something else than the bolter on zealot
in our messages
@vocal pulsar Where are you, Stan is looking like your Romeo rn
because everytime a bullwark will ruin my day
What
truly a fate worse than death
mankat
That’s so rude wtf
rest in peace
oh hey mankat
why did i type piece like that
yeah my bad stan
Is it normal to have very long load time
and crying jünger
BV
Will Zealots charge + Rev'd weapon attack ever be fixed?
well its been like this since beta, so any day now
yes because it lets you do first target dmg to 5 enemies
its just bm but for sword
That burn is unfortunate.
ngl I would just grab op 4 for the slim chance it gets fixed
i know someone on reddit did an extremely big detailed rant on the purgation flamer
i gotta find that again cuz i do wanna try this thing sometime
What if it’s working as intended
So the fact the charge crit hit doesn't register if you rev it and swing during said charge and doesn't apply the damage to said enemy means it works as intended?
Essentially wasting your charge
Well they have specifically said that impact damage and rev damage are intentionally separate interactions
You get the damage and crit on the impact
Be cool if it worked for both don’t get me wrong but it might be intentional is all I’m saying
Hmmm I see
Like bloodletter in an eviscerator will cleave through chaff and make them all bleed and crit them all on the impact and when it stops and does a chainsaw on the first elite it hits that doesn’t also get the crit
I think impact damage is a new thing added post Xbox release though so if that’s been the case since beta idk
Maybe the impact damage was a bandage slapped on to the fury of the faithful interaction
Yeah fair enough, I guess that specific builds would be really broken if it was as I wondered
Thrust on chain axes
Should benefit from it and just out damage thunder hammers lol
I guess thrust still benefits from it if you charge after the chainsaw animation
Y'know I've really wanted to get into Chain Axes but the fact they get stuck on individuals and are kinda hard to CC is a turn off
As you probably know, I run a heavy Eviscerator MKXV so rushing in and going for big defensive sweeps and revs on big chunky enemies is my go to
However my first Transcendent weapon was a Chain Axe
I prefer chaxe
I honestly dont remember
Try checking weapon table
Could maybe do momentum to shred, infested to unyielding or cara
Yeah the perks are probably what to change
Carapace is what I go for
Then uhhhh... Unyielding because I melee fight bosses
Well perk, you keep flak
maniac 25?
Long time no see Vin
I'd say test it and see what would help you meet any one or two shot breakpoint
If it helps you one shot bulwarks or reapers, do unyielding good for boss dmg. If it let's you 2 shot crushers or something do cara
Run in psyk and see what's what ya dig
What if you do Carapace and Flak lol
Hmmm what if I'm going for the new chaxe, the 12? I think that's the new one
I've seen it tear apart the shields of the Twins and melt most enemies
The CC ain't as bad as I thought it was
So I'm thinking about giving it a go and hitting the casino for a good one
For the new one I think I used thrust and headtaker and it was very good
The juiced quick heavies could get through armor well
I'm no chaxe expert tho, I use it rarely
yeah thrust/HT or slaught is good
So almost the same as my heavy Eviscerator lmao
Bet
I bet the same builds even work for it
I remember trying a Flamer and found how sad it was
It's just all horde clear
Trash mob clearing
Then I picked up the revolver and felt heaven
also clears elites
it isn't
since ragers/gunners/maulers don't magically have a resistance to fire
same goes for crushers if you ult with fury
flamer is the best anti elite weapon in the game besides plasma gun on vet
just go fury of the faithful
you just need the right perks and blessings to make the flamer excel
Flamer loses me instantly with the swap speed and armor downgrade gimmick
i wanna make a build for it some day
flamer against ragers solo https://streamable.com/b4sq6q
Idk, I like to snipe em with a revolver before they aggro and all that armor makes it feel...not up to snuff when I can pop off a Ragers head or a Mauler instantly with a single well placed revolver shot
flamer against ranged patrol https://streamable.com/jcsx2w
I also don't want to watch things be consumed by fire because I can't watch them die
sure you can always do that
But it depends on positioning
I want to see a clean body drop dead 
doesn't make the flamer just for hordeclear
It just feels like it's mainly for that
but it isn't, because elites don't magically have resistance to the flamer
it's something that's easy to see if you just pop the flamer against an elite patrol
But gunners and such run away from flame range
obviously, if you pidgeonhole yourself to using the flamer against trash mobs, you'll see it being good only against trash mobs
the range is also probably longer than you think
Personally, why risk being turned into Swiss cheese by a pack of wild hooligans with guns just because they knocked you back a bit out of range, just rush in and force them all into melee.
cuz you can do either depending on the situation
doesn't make the flamer just for hordeclear
just another weapon and playstyle
if you don't like it, that's fine
but that does not make the flamer just for hordeclear
build up your stacks, press F, keep flaming
flamer horde clear is also a tech
you need to do short bursts for true horde trash
saves a ton of ammo
but it has infinite penetration in it's range besides bulwarks so it makes it potentially the best elite killer in the game, only a plasma could hope to kill as many crushers
Flamer is for horde (a horde of crushers)
fury flamer being better against a crusher horde just cuz plasma can't cleave crushers
much to think about a reality in which fatshark didn't implement cleave stop on carapace
Charged shot can but not even close to flamer power
Then there's also the Boltgun that can solve issues such as the random pack of 10 Crushers
sure, if you have a wild amount of buffs up the bolter can do that
in the very optimistic case, you can do 10-15, but that relies on having quite a few buffs up
You could add surge void strike and kickback tbh
i'm speaking as a bolter main, fyi
void is limited pen and kickback can't do carapace
and if you have other elites in the play, then the bolter isn't clearing them all along with the crushers
the infinite cleave of the flamer isn't to be underestimated
I thought you were a psyker main, Archie of House Tash
Akshually my surgical kickback can 2 shots a crusher
could never be me
deranged
yea but most ogryn mains are ogryn irl so they don't know that
slash joke
True
before ogryn mains haul me up on a rope
Void has limited pen... But plasma has way too much
So does purgatus right?
i think so but i think it has less range and also damage isnt quite as strong iirc
and no chastise
uncanny will make it stupid tho
yeah, more direct damage but soulburn is a weaker DoT
solution: give psyker fury of the faithful
Warp dash
Hello d'Arco
psyker doesn't get reliable rending with purge
hi span
stack uncanny
purgatus has infinte ammo and fast equip time, while having multiple ways in the talent to apply SB. You cant compare them because they are on differnt classes.
uncanny lasts for 3.5 seconds and I never said it didn't synergize with SB. I can compare them cause that is how comparisons work.
SB talents will never reach the 16 fire stacks flamer does and the Uncanny trick with purge isn't on demand with a single button press
does it matter? it's instant and doesn't need to be stacked 5 times then swapped
How long does it take to reach 16 burn stack?
is it effective? yes. Does that make it equivalent to fury+flamer lol no
okay so you are
stacking uncanny to 5
after getting 16 soulblaze stacks?
orrr.... you press fury once you hit your debuff cap which is fixed at 76% burn
I just want to know how long does it take to reach max burn
just a weird hill to die on
it doesn't matter the exact timing lol
becuase you can start the armor degrade as soon as it best
how long does it take to hit 16 SB stacks with a purge staff lol
pointless to answer either
non sequitor
With shirek and perilous, very fast
shriek is fixed amount and requires peril built up for max stacks
which, you will have peril decayed
if you build up uncanny strike
perilous doesn't proc off soulblaze kills
^
Yeah but you are procing uncanny
losing peril even if you take peril reduction on kill talent
they're both flamethrower type weapons with incredibly similar use cases im p sure u can compare them
It has the least peril generation
it was an example
And the hardest to blow up due to how it works
100%
my bad on wording for inferring that psyker can't get rending for purge, but it no where near as consistent and reliable flamer+fury is
I wanna say is, purg is the psykers main weapon, allowing pysker to cc multiple enemies constantly. It's less committal
I am not here to argue what is stronger
Idk why it has to be so confrontational
purge for the CC is a meme when smite exists and arguably does the SB clear better
K
lol you kept JAQ'ing off and "lmao'ing"
just take the L
Uh no?
Do you want me to take the L so much?
I am here to have meaningful discussions not have a debate on subjective oppions
dw i gave you the edit up above
SUBJECTIVE OPINIONS

Does it offend you that I don't like such debates?

it is a meaningful discussion bro we were just wrong it's okay. I was wrong in saying psyker had no rending, you were wrong in how the game mechanics worked
how stacking SB worked with talents and the effective time burning at max stacks you'd have with uncanny
i mean if the SB Smite>CC Purge is the breaking point idk i just threw that out there
but emperor bless, have a goodnight, and thief's honor, I'm going to steal "SUBJECTIVE OPINIONS"





